Parker man I've been a fan since the $99 Rockville review days we kinda started our car audio journeys about the same time & it's been fun to progress with u & watch u come up in the game. Good for you bro
Yes, Sundown is tooled in China (parts and accessories). Then assembled in America, Jacob did that to save an insane amount of cost for his series lineups. Imagine the price, made strictly in America ($1000 base price or more) very smart on his behalf. Would love to see a DB review later, after sub gets a bit more slinky. Great video brotha keep em coming 💪
The problem is companies keep funding China while our economy is waning. More and more money is printed to help our economy but it isn't going into our economy. China has over the years backed manufacturing into a corner to the point where damn near everything is made in China and they keep getting richer and stronger because of it.
@@toddspraker8916 if the usa inflated (printed )your bitcoin wallet willie nilly as they wish. you wouldnt tolerate it.... fearing imprisonment you might find alternatives . your statements are partially untrue and true... your larger concern is right on though. Since the USA does print inflate the dollar, we must as producers find alternatives to value cost cut here and there everywhere and oh wait this cheap labor exist overseas. that if we dont take advantage of our competitors will and win the markets with value more products (read cheaper). anyway this is one of many reasons why china makes everything. in this analysis our own government hobbles us.
@@shanecunningham6082 you're right. Our politicians have caused this. They've been selling America out for years. We need term limits but it's really hard to get people (congress) to make a vote to lose their gravy train. The reason manufacturing left is on our politicians. There's no reason that anything we buy overseas couldn't be manufactured here. Same thing happened at the beginning of covid with medical mask shortages. No reason we couldn't make our own masks here but our so called leadership thought it best to rely on China for everything. If we did our own manufacturing this could have been avoided altogether.
Per the D4S web page description for the 12" X v3, "this sub is 85% sundown Z v5" and Hucking Fits hard AF! Ive got it installed in sundown spec box per their cutlist. except im firing the sub UP and ported to the rear, on a D4S- JP23 v1.5 amp Ive got the dual 2ohm vc wired down to 1ohm . hardest hitting 12 in sub Ive ever owned. Ive been a bass head since high school (grad '98)... mindboggling extreme powerful bass.
@@LTSRIDE24 under powered? Sundown specs at 2000rms . I have it wired to 1ohm. D4S JP23 specs at 2800w RMS at 1ohm… it’s on money…as sundown underrates it’s subs approx 500w this is per a sundown rep on phone 2years ago. Williston Audio labs on TH-cam did an amp dyno on the JP23 and confirmed this output at 1ohm. Additionally D4S will warranty for a fee .5 ohm loads on the same amp. This amp is a beast. And performs. Sub hits hard, I keep voltage stable at 14+ volts with a big 3 upgrade and 2- Platinum AGM Batteries, H9 Group Size, 950 CCA, 1000 CA, 100 Amp Hour Capacity within 2’ of the amp and a 125a output alternator.
I'm trying to figure getting the 1 or 2 ohm with that jp23. Having amp running at 1 or 2 ohm is the question. I'm noob, leaning towards running at 2 ohm to ease electric, will I still have awesome bass compared to your 1 ohm running jp23 amp? Thanks!
The thing about subs being expensive is that it seems expensive until you find ways to save your money and budget your finances. Plus certain sites make it easier by offering payment plans. So they seem expensive but certainly not all that impossible to acquire 😎
This is only true in car audio not with Pro Audio or Home Audio like to move from a 600watt sub to 1000watts costs $600-$3000 and that sucks home audio is even worse 😑 but yeah man working my ass of to get a DD815 and later a Sundown X15
The "Made in America" is usually "Assembled in the USA". They put the subs together by hand at Sundown HQ, but some, if not all of the parts come from China. That's just how it is with every car audio company, even Sundown will tell you that. People act like we out here mining and gathering the materials to make every single part of the sub in the USA. If that was the case, the sub would be multiple thousands of dollars. Also great review of the sub.
just picked up a Xv3 and man i’m so amazed, i had AB 4 Elite 12s and love the Sundown more. this sub can really take a beating. putting 5k on the Xv3 and thinking on getting a best friend for the xv3 if ykwim😏
@@xchimnyx indeed lol they've literally cooked eggs with them and boiled water lol the coils are able to withstand 500*F which is Ludacris if you know anything about building woofers... Most will crap out at around 250-300*F but not sundown with an American made PE coil....
I used to daily a zv5 15" on a sfb8000d @1ohm.. never metered actual rms but battery stayed at 15v soft clipping so I'm pretty sure I got all the power out of the sfb8k. Might need to get one of these xv3's very soon.
I bought a cheapo dual temp meter w 2 probes w long wires and stuck in the side vent close to the coil but not touching The meter was like eight bucks and I know if my subs temps are rising towards 100° I'm cooking them & they'll be stinking soon. I would hardly call it necessary but I like data The more data the better always
@@kevinAuman1yep i have temp meter for my subs and who knows how accurate the temp actually is I jus know when the meter reads 100° or above I'm cooking them and I'll be smelling it any second
This whole discussion is why I like how DD organizes their subs. They clearly tell you what's made in America. Also, all of the options they have are wonderful.
I just put 2 of them in a gately 5.5 cubes on a taramps 5k bass. Got to put in the xs power batteries and finish running some wires. Cant wait to hear it.
I thought we settled the discussion is where the sundown subs are made. Just cus they are made in china does not mean they are bad subs. Sundown still has quality control of their products and will make sure it meets their requirements therefore making a premium product
I have 4 x15s (v2) two are Built in USA and two are made in China. They are like 100 percent identical except for the glue on the coils, American ones are glossy and China coils more of a flat black.
Parker. I have this sub. X12 v3 from D4S. 2 day shipping. omg, awesome sub. My boxing was different. There was no Styrofoam it was all super thick layering of cardboard. Sundown leased a building in Las Vegas near D4S and has contracted labor to assemble/ Build these subs (the x and z series) specifically for D4S. My box says assembled in USA , its a sticker they put over the made in China. My sub also has a USA sticker on it. I should add, I share this info for purpose of clarification... I do not care where it was made assembled. I understand economics.
I wanna see you step it up to like two ZV6 15's in the daily Parker! That would be sick. Get King City to do another box for you, just made for the two ZV6 15's. I bet they would slam on the two 8k amps.
No American subwoofer is made in USA anymore they all sold to China or other places. Sadly kicker did the same so kicker isn't USA made anymore . My l7t is proof
I just put 2 of them in a gately 5.5 cube box on a taramps 5k bass. Still have to hook up the xs power batteries and run a couple wires. Cant wait to hear it.
Parker , i love that v.3 flat wound wire ,vrs, v.2 round roll coil still bad ass. The v.3 flat wound is just like the controlto subs massive beefy an strong. I can believe you only live an hour away from sundown dude thats awesome . I smell 4 18 v.3 in order for your truck lol . Have a good one bud thanks for posting .
Agreed, I just bought a tropo 15 for $99 shipped and it sounds incredible I was blown away literally by how great the sou d quality is for such a cheap entry level woofer! Granted I own sundown Xv2 15's and deaf bonce apocalypse DB3515'S Addictive Audio V4 15's but when I got offered a discount from CT to buy a 15in 650wrms woofer for under a hundred bucks I couldn't say no! Now CT has a bad rep for customer service but the 1st sub arrived with a rusty chrome motor that actually shifted during shipment and they had zero issues replacing it and had new one sent out the very same day!!! Already have it in and playing and it sounds great, I may even try to recone or fix the bad one then have two budget 15's
Just about to cut my sub holes for my box..2 skar zvx 12v2s ..had 1 and needed to upgrade..1slammed cant wait to hear 2now..this video motivated me to get going and finish
@Kyle nice i used mdf 3/4 and subbox pro went to home depot with dimensions and had them cut it..got 30% off each board as i needed 2...my first box for single sub 3.0 cubic ft 1board...but its better then 300 for a custom box...got a zigsaw from amazon amd gonna return it ...so all together mdf terminals screws and pl glue im less.then 85 bucks.im on.a taramps smart 3
@@xchimnyx correct they were designed to be able to play in smaller enclosures butttt if you truly want to get the max performance from your woofer then even as it says on sundowns site "can be up to 50% larger than spec enclosure" and that extra box will get you lower, deeper and harder hitting bass!!!
@@jacbybentril7114 yes I too have a comp box for subsonic suicide with two X12's built and upgraded by Dave Lieb with zv5 and nightshade parts and the box is 4cu with a 3 and a half ft long 8in aero port and let me tell ya it is VIOLENT but the reason I went smaller in this case is so I can throw a ton of power at them and there is almost no impedance rise at all lol I'm wired series/parallel dual 2's to a 2ohm final and full tilt it only rises to 2.3ohm meaning I'm able to efficiently utilize each and every available watt now if I only had like a 5k amp I'd certainly have built around 5 or 6cu and tuned just as low but I'm happy doing a 151.6 at 28hz with just a pair of 12's on 9k cased lol and if you know anything about tuning and box building you know that is incredible for such a low frequency now if I wanted to tune to 33hz I'm sure I'd he able to smash near mid 50's burping... but I like my lows and don't really care about much else 🤣🔊🔊🔊 hence the reason I compete in subsonic suicide
Exactly people are just people. It's unreal when people think that being assembled here somehow makes a difference. We all put our pants on the same way.
I know you had bad luck with the entry level Harmony subs , but i think you will like their Monolith series they are impressive for the price and look awesome with the carbon fiber cone
I'm debating this exact issue should I get the xv3 over the xv2? I plan on running them off a down4sound jp63. Is that to much power for 2 15's? Any advice is much appreciated!
@@RAW_Reality I haven't because Noone has a meter in my area to test it. A buddy of mine said it feels like a strong 158 to him but my box is alot smaller than it should so I expect 160s when I build the 4th
Just try it out if one of your friends has a bigger ported box . One and a half the size of your box and be amazed I bought a smaller box the exact size they recommend and I can only assume that is the minimal specs because my original box sounded waayyy better especially on the lower bass notes which were non existent with the smaller box . By the way my bigger box is a older style JL audio h.o. box that has the red oval and grey carpet and I'm pretty sure it can still be better in another ported box with similar cubes but tuned even lower because I read somewhere the box I have is tuned to 40 hz . But like you said this is what you're testing in and anyone can test in whatever box they want on their videos . But you're missing out . Either way cool sub collection .
How about you do a giveaway with some of the older subs or something? You could do that when you get your own clothing line. Every $1 spent is an entry
I remember watching a video (from the Sundown Audio unofficial channel, I believe) that stated the X series and up were made here in Florida, so it's likely that is why peeps were thinkin' that sorta thing. Sundown makes awesome subs, (I've owned a couple SA12's) but maybe priced a bit high. I scored mine the one and only time I seen 'em go on sale. $160, if memory serves
Personally I don't see much of a difference in sound compared to the V2 and V3.. I ended up with a Xv3 10" and a Xv2 10" there sitting in different boxes in my storage building ATM.. my daily is my Skar VXF 15" D2 on a Taramps HD3000.1 1ohm model.. but iv tested the Xv2 and Xv3 10"s and not much of a difference... The v3 is slightly heavier n plays slightly lower but other than that not worth the extra $$
@@miiiikee_ naw, I saw how he does his work after waiting a few months decided not to order from him. instead got some emf banhammers on presale when they were 400$ a piece. not to shabby.
Bought 2 xv3 12s about 3 months ago from a local dealer in Houston my boxes said made in China and it was a doubled box well packaged with Styrofoam around the subwoofers in plastic?
I hope people realise it have an x max of 30 mm each way. So don't feel because if have a high roll surround you suppose to see plenty movement. It just 15 mm more x max each than most subs @9:12 the sub is going pass the xmax.
Just picked up 2x 15" Skar VXF d4 for 280.00 each. I dunno about 600+ for one 12". A penny saved is a penny earned and that is true no matter how much money you have.
i actually like the v2 for my setup i have a 190 amp alternator that cant be upgraded (v10 tdi touareg) so skipping the extra 500w might save my $800 alternator in the long run!
@@chefbgordon8892 I have a '06 scion xb , where did you buy a bigger alternator for it? Can I run jp23 1 ohm on stock alt with extra battery in back? Thanks!
@@ParkerTheBasshead Oh wow... what little I can find on the X-maxx you would think they are sitting on a ton of them. Wish I live around Cleveland. I'd get them to send one asap*
The best way to do it is with a home audio amp. Sit it on the ground and push a little bit of power through it, no more than like 10% of rated. And just play a solid sine wave at the Fs of the sub. If you only have a car amp, then just be careful with the power for a couple weeks.
Xv2 & Xv3....NICE! Are these the D2(2ohm) or D4(4ohm)for this comparison vid? Also i notice each coil has its own wire from sub to enclosure connections. I assume they are in Parallel. But to know for certain....Series or Parallel? Mahalo in advance if u do reply....ALOHA🤙🏽
Different sub needs a different enclosure! Put it in a different enclosure and that score will go up. I can tell by your excitement that you love it! I prefer the u's but ive always loved the x
How is it that the JL Audio W7 and the Earthquake DBXi 12s both have extremely high xmax and at peak to peak maintain a perfect surround integrity while this Sundown and also the Def Bonce kink and deform like a mf at high excursion?
JL audio W7 is limited to 1500 rms after that it will smoke they will not take a beating like the X series super soft spiders, w7 is a efficient sub and clean but is limited
@@allmotorhash yah for sure if all you care about is raw power then x series is the way to go, but a lot people do care about sound quality and the w7 has it. 1500 rms for the average person is more than enough.
Also digital designs. I've seen some stupid excursion from them, and not once have I seen the surround dimple. I think the reason sundown and other cheap brands do it comes down to a couple reasons. They use cheaply made surrounds, which don't have the strength and control needed for high excursion. And, they use pointlessly large surrounds. In this vid, he was feeding 2-3 times rated power to his XV3, and the surround was only at like 60-70% flex. All that pointless material gets in the way.
Cool subs but, they have too much mechanical noise for me. I much rather have a clean low extending bass with no mechanical noise. Pretty much zeroed down on Fi Audio because of my SQ preferences and the fact that it is made in the USA.
Exactly. There are hundreds of subwoofers that sound better, are more efficient, and are cheaper. You are paying for a name and xmax ability. And it's a very high price to pay, with many negative tradeoffs.
watch your vid then it made me go get 2 xv'3's 12's omg amazing on a tarampa bass 5k my roof looks like a wave pool they hit very hard in a 5.5 cube birch box sundown spec is rite on .....
Yo parker what's the max power the sundown X12 V2 2ohm can handle cause I've seen videos where one guy was push and 8k amp on just one sundown X12 V2 i no the rms is 1500 watts but it doesn't show the max power it can. Handle
Not knocking your video but all I hear Is tapping and buzzing and body panels rattling. I know it's just the microphone being overloaded so I get it. I can imagine what it sounds like in person. If you sat in a car behind or in front of you I wonder if the microphone would be able to hear the bump better. It resonates inside a vehicle parked near you with no rattles and probably not overdriving the microphone. I haven't seen anybody record it like that. ya might want to try it. It may let your audience hear the bass bump more clearly and hear it resonate and get loud and clear.
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Parker man I've been a fan since the $99 Rockville review days we kinda started our car audio journeys about the same time & it's been fun to progress with u & watch u come up in the game. Good for you bro
I jus got a sundown x10 going o that 2500 American bass
Yes, Sundown is tooled in China (parts and accessories). Then assembled in America, Jacob did that to save an insane amount of cost for his series lineups. Imagine the price, made strictly in America ($1000 base price or more) very smart on his behalf. Would love to see a DB review later, after sub gets a bit more slinky. Great video brotha keep em coming 💪
The problem is companies keep funding China while our economy is waning. More and more money is printed to help our economy but it isn't going into our economy.
China has over the years backed manufacturing into a corner to the point where damn near everything is made in China and they keep getting richer and stronger because of it.
That's why I like how DD does it. They clearly tell you what subs are made in America vs made in china.
@@toddspraker8916 so true
@@toddspraker8916 if the usa inflated (printed )your bitcoin wallet willie nilly as they wish. you wouldnt tolerate it.... fearing imprisonment you might find alternatives .
your statements are partially untrue and true... your larger concern is right on though.
Since the USA does print inflate the dollar, we must as producers find alternatives to value cost cut here and there everywhere and oh wait this cheap labor exist overseas. that if we dont take advantage of our competitors will and win the markets with value more products (read cheaper). anyway this is one of many reasons why china makes everything. in this analysis our own government hobbles us.
@@shanecunningham6082 you're right. Our politicians have caused this. They've been selling America out for years. We need term limits but it's really hard to get people (congress) to make a vote to lose their gravy train.
The reason manufacturing left is on our politicians. There's no reason that anything we buy overseas couldn't be manufactured here.
Same thing happened at the beginning of covid with medical mask shortages. No reason we couldn't make our own masks here but our so called leadership thought it best to rely on China for everything. If we did our own manufacturing this could have been avoided altogether.
Per the D4S web page description for the 12" X v3, "this sub is 85% sundown Z v5" and Hucking Fits hard AF! Ive got it installed in sundown spec box per their cutlist. except im firing the sub UP and ported to the rear, on a D4S- JP23 v1.5 amp Ive got the dual 2ohm vc wired down to 1ohm .
hardest hitting 12 in sub Ive ever owned. Ive been a bass head since high school (grad '98)... mindboggling extreme powerful bass.
that amp seems VERY under powered for this sub, unless this dynos much higher than 2k? Generally, D4S is pretty accurate with their actual output.
@@LTSRIDE24 under powered? Sundown specs at 2000rms . I have it wired to 1ohm. D4S JP23 specs at 2800w RMS at 1ohm… it’s on money…as sundown underrates it’s subs approx 500w this is per a sundown rep on phone 2years ago. Williston Audio labs on TH-cam did an amp dyno on the JP23 and confirmed this output at 1ohm. Additionally D4S will warranty for a fee .5 ohm loads on the same amp. This amp is a beast. And performs. Sub hits hard, I keep voltage stable at 14+ volts with a big 3 upgrade and 2- Platinum AGM Batteries, H9 Group Size, 950 CCA, 1000 CA, 100 Amp Hour Capacity within 2’ of the amp and a 125a output alternator.
put that sub on a smart 5bass or 2 on a smart 8bass.....c'mon you know you want to
I'm trying to figure getting the 1 or 2 ohm with that jp23. Having amp running at 1 or 2 ohm is the question. I'm noob, leaning towards running at 2 ohm to ease electric, will I still have awesome bass compared to your 1 ohm running jp23 amp? Thanks!
@@Nathan-wf1pr run it at 1ohm of course.. the newer version of jp23 is much more powerful. You'll need electrical upgrades. But the sub will love it
The thing about subs being expensive is that it seems expensive until you find ways to save your money and budget your finances. Plus certain sites make it easier by offering payment plans. So they seem expensive but certainly not all that impossible to acquire 😎
Be quiet.
This is only true in car audio not with Pro Audio or Home Audio like to move from a 600watt sub to 1000watts costs $600-$3000 and that sucks home audio is even worse 😑 but yeah man working my ass of to get a DD815 and later a Sundown X15
I got 4 dc level 6 18s I paid almost 1,400 for each sub 😳‼️ but also make a decent amount of money 💰 🤣
@Kyle if Dayton was cheaper in my country id say hell yeah but no so instead im using one of my DD715S as my home audio sub.
@@kgj7102 truth hurts? Go ahead and STFU now.
Just bought two of these and got them hooked up, pretty impressive how low they can play
How do you like them so far? I was thinking of getting two of these. But I'm also interested in the zv6
@@superior3384 what did you end up getting? i’m also looking at both right now
The uniformity of those coils looks amazing!
The "Made in America" is usually "Assembled in the USA". They put the subs together by hand at Sundown HQ, but some, if not all of the parts come from China. That's just how it is with every car audio company, even Sundown will tell you that. People act like we out here mining and gathering the materials to make every single part of the sub in the USA. If that was the case, the sub would be multiple thousands of dollars. Also great review of the sub.
just picked up a Xv3 and man i’m so amazed, i had AB 4 Elite 12s and love the Sundown more. this sub can really take a beating. putting 5k on the Xv3 and thinking on getting a best friend for the xv3 if ykwim😏
Those coils are amazing! I just bought the X8 V3's, unbelievable tiny little subwoofers.
What's the best amplifier to use for this sub v3 12 inch I currently have a power 1000 Rockford series. Need your recommendation thank you
@@vicp2572 3k minimum. Taramps Smart 5 MD5k etc would be what is go with
For the rms test I think it would be a cool addition to get a temperature gun to see how much the coil heats up
I mean zv5 coils have been known to take ungodly amounts of power. Granted, it's still limited as it's a 3" coil. But for what they are, they're nuts.
@@xchimnyx indeed lol they've literally cooked eggs with them and boiled water lol the coils are able to withstand 500*F which is Ludacris if you know anything about building woofers... Most will crap out at around 250-300*F but not sundown with an American made PE coil....
I used to daily a zv5 15" on a sfb8000d @1ohm.. never metered actual rms but battery stayed at 15v soft clipping so I'm pretty sure I got all the power out of the sfb8k. Might need to get one of these xv3's very soon.
I bought a cheapo dual temp meter w 2 probes w long wires and stuck in the side vent close to the coil but not touching The meter was like eight bucks and I know if my subs temps are rising towards 100° I'm cooking them & they'll be stinking soon. I would hardly call it necessary but I like data The more data the better always
@@kevinAuman1yep i have temp meter for my subs and who knows how accurate the temp actually is I jus know when the meter reads 100° or above I'm cooking them and I'll be smelling it any second
Parker KILLING IT! With the reviews! Xv3 definitely looks like a monster!
Assembled in the USA it’s all Chinese made soft parts and ferrite magnets
This whole discussion is why I like how DD organizes their subs. They clearly tell you what's made in America. Also, all of the options they have are wonderful.
I just put 2 of them in a gately 5.5 cubes on a taramps 5k bass. Got to put in the xs power batteries and finish running some wires. Cant wait to hear it.
@@kylekatz7837
We're gonna want demos. 😅
@@kylekatz7837 dude you paid that asinine amount for a prefab just build your own
@@GTILOUD that was to just get me started. I built a 6th order B pillar wall for 4 of them
DD is the shit, although I recently switched to B2 Audio and have never been happier. The Rage 12 XL is a beast!
I have had the X15V3 for a while, taking over 6K on burps. That thing is built like a tank.
Did you ever meter it
I thought we settled the discussion is where the sundown subs are made. Just cus they are made in china does not mean they are bad subs. Sundown still has quality control of their products and will make sure it meets their requirements therefore making a premium product
U series and up are made in the USA, SA series down are made in china
@@calebsmith9534 wasn't the sundown U subwoofer the one that kept breaking the basket? Thought the x series was stronger then the U series.
Don’t be one of this guys. I run sd xv2s 15s and they are amazing subs. Doesn’t matter where it’s made
Great Video am still rocking my deafbounce 15 305 half the price 2000 watts rms
Deaf Bonce FTW!!
😬
Same. Have a DB-SA305 and a X15 v2. Power wise the DB takes it all day but you can't beat the lows the X gives.
@@ParkerTheBasshead all day!!
@@jimmybass7595 what frequencies?
I have 4 x15s (v2) two are Built in USA and two are made in China. They are like 100 percent identical except for the glue on the coils, American ones are glossy and China coils more of a flat black.
This I didn't know. Because my x12v2 coil is glossy black and made in America
@@Carnage488 mine is made in China🫣😥
Parker. I have this sub. X12 v3 from D4S. 2 day shipping. omg, awesome sub. My boxing was different. There was no Styrofoam it was all super thick layering of cardboard. Sundown leased a building in Las Vegas near D4S and has contracted labor to assemble/ Build these subs (the x and z series) specifically for D4S.
My box says assembled in USA , its a sticker they put over the made in China. My sub also has a USA sticker on it. I should add, I share this info for purpose of clarification... I do not care where it was made assembled. I understand economics.
Yup. Just picked mine up today in Vegas at D4S. Says assembled in USA also with cardboard. Heavy as f@$k lol
You understand economics do you, you clever son of a bitch
Youre almost at 100k subscribers! I have no doubt youll make it. Really enjoy your videos man
I ordered a x12 v3 last week and didn’t get the shirt or the volt meter .. was kinda bummed but the sub is amazing . Sundown makes quality stuff .
I didn’t get anything besides the sub too, I was looking forward to that D4S shirt
Literally just picked mine up today. Got a JP23 1.5 for it. Getting installed on Thursday. Can’t wait to hear this. Upgrading from the U-12’s!
The v2 sounds cleaner! Could be due to softness of the softies vs the fresh v3
They are normally made in America but due to demand they have been building in both to keep up
Ahhh interesting!
@@ParkerTheBasshead My Z series subs say USA on the box and on the subs
@@ParkerTheBasshead also for the rms test of subs, you could use the bass beat tracks???
They should be cheaper if you get the made in china box 🤣🤣
Gladly pay the price if it says made in the usa.
And yup where both close to Sundown and Apex and EM. I'm 45 mins away from sundown as well Weaverville NC ;)
Oh nice I’m near Boone! Not far from you at all
I wanna see you step it up to like two ZV6 15's in the daily Parker! That would be sick. Get King City to do another box for you, just made for the two ZV6 15's. I bet they would slam on the two 8k amps.
I ordered Pizza over an hr ago...and it still hasn't came yet!!!
did it come yet?
@@nikolatata69 yeah finally!!!
WTF
@@tim9928yes it's a year later, but I bet it wasn't fresh when you got it. Lol pretty funny comment!
No American subwoofer is made in USA anymore they all sold to China or other places. Sadly kicker did the same so kicker isn't USA made anymore . My l7t is proof
Yes, I will definitely be getting two of them. Looking forward to it!
Are the X worth upgrading from Adire Brahma or Stereo Integrity SQL?
I just put 2 of them in a gately 5.5 cube box on a taramps 5k bass. Still have to hook up the xs power batteries and run a couple wires. Cant wait to hear it.
you are waaaaay underpowered. Either upgrade your amp or just run (1) sub on that 5k & you will be dialed in much better!
@LTSRIDE24 got it wired to .5 ohm and it pushed them fine. I got 4 now in a 6th order B pillar wall on a jp 83 at .5 and it gets down.
@@kylekatz7837 very nice! Do you have any pics online?
So you fed that sub 4500rms?
Parker , i love that v.3 flat wound wire ,vrs, v.2 round roll coil still bad ass. The v.3 flat wound is just like the controlto subs massive beefy an strong. I can believe you only live an hour away from sundown dude thats awesome . I smell 4 18 v.3 in order for your truck lol . Have a good one bud thanks for posting .
down for sound has manlet and kid shirts how cute.
I know right!!
Mr green is a sizest 😂
Did i miss the videos of DC and CT audio reviews on their subs? These two manufacturing companies have awesome subwoofers in my opinion
For sure bro. Ive had many setups. For the price ct sounds is a excellent choice as well as sundown
Agreed, I just bought a tropo 15 for $99 shipped and it sounds incredible I was blown away literally by how great the sou d quality is for such a cheap entry level woofer! Granted I own sundown Xv2 15's and deaf bonce apocalypse DB3515'S Addictive Audio V4 15's but when I got offered a discount from CT to buy a 15in 650wrms woofer for under a hundred bucks I couldn't say no! Now CT has a bad rep for customer service but the 1st sub arrived with a rusty chrome motor that actually shifted during shipment and they had zero issues replacing it and had new one sent out the very same day!!! Already have it in and playing and it sounds great, I may even try to recone or fix the bad one then have two budget 15's
Love the energy. Great review.
Just about to cut my sub holes for my box..2 skar zvx 12v2s ..had 1 and needed to upgrade..1slammed cant wait to hear 2now..this video motivated me to get going and finish
@Kyle nice i used mdf 3/4 and subbox pro went to home depot with dimensions and had them cut it..got 30% off each board as i needed 2...my first box for single sub 3.0 cubic ft 1board...but its better then 300 for a custom box...got a zigsaw from amazon amd gonna return it ...so all together mdf terminals screws and pl glue im less.then 85 bucks.im on.a taramps smart 3
The thing that’s stopping me from buying one now is you saying it’s weak on SQ. is it not accurate? Muddy?
Ahhhhh Yes! Now that's what I'm talkin about! This has been my daily sub for about 3 months now! Need a big ass enclosure! I love my X-v3!
Why do you need a big enclosure? X series were designed to be low end musical monsters in small or large enclosures.
@@xchimnyx correct they were designed to be able to play in smaller enclosures butttt if you truly want to get the max performance from your woofer then even as it says on sundowns site "can be up to 50% larger than spec enclosure" and that extra box will get you lower, deeper and harder hitting bass!!!
@@kevinAuman1 my box is like 3.7 cu for my x12s has a good bandwidth and does well on meter
@@jacbybentril7114 yes I too have a comp box for subsonic suicide with two X12's built and upgraded by Dave Lieb with zv5 and nightshade parts and the box is 4cu with a 3 and a half ft long 8in aero port and let me tell ya it is VIOLENT but the reason I went smaller in this case is so I can throw a ton of power at them and there is almost no impedance rise at all lol I'm wired series/parallel dual 2's to a 2ohm final and full tilt it only rises to 2.3ohm meaning I'm able to efficiently utilize each and every available watt now if I only had like a 5k amp I'd certainly have built around 5 or 6cu and tuned just as low but I'm happy doing a 151.6 at 28hz with just a pair of 12's on 9k cased lol and if you know anything about tuning and box building you know that is incredible for such a low frequency now if I wanted to tune to 33hz I'm sure I'd he able to smash near mid 50's burping... but I like my lows and don't really care about much else 🤣🔊🔊🔊 hence the reason I compete in subsonic suicide
Jl audio is assembled in china. Where it's assembled doesn't mean much. What matters is the quality control.
Exactly people are just people. It's unreal when people think that being assembled here somehow makes a difference. We all put our pants on the same way.
American bass godzilla 12 review next please!!!!!!!!!
I know you had bad luck with the entry level Harmony subs , but i think you will like their Monolith series they are impressive for the price and look awesome with the carbon fiber cone
I jus bought one can't wait too hear it I have a 2500 phantom american bass mono block 1 ohm
It's a great amp
If you only had 800 to spend on some 15s would you buy a 15v3 sundown or 2 15 inch zvx skars???
2 zvx's
Sundown all day
9:18 that thing got some balls
I’d like to see your opinion on the v3 after it breaks in longer, even if it’s just a quick mention in a future video.
Guess we’re not gonna get an update 🤷♂️
😂😂
...brutal xmax :) ...just imagine how big "damage" it can make in a proper 6th order optimised exactly for it :)
I absolutely love the smart "FREE" remarks. had me rollin😂😂😂😂
MANNN I cannot wait till you get the Zv6 Parker you will finally see what the massive difference is between X and Z series....
I can’t wait either!!
idk.. twice the price
I'm debating this exact issue should I get the xv3 over the xv2? I plan on running them off a down4sound jp63. Is that to much power for 2 15's? Any advice is much appreciated!
Does the weight of the magnet make the voice coils rub or something
He said the x was way to much for a sub but i just bought the nsv5 18 for my car😅
I have 4 xv3 18s on a crescendo 17k and they are amazing even in a smaller box than recommended until I get my 4th order wall done
You read my mind💪
Jacob, had it metered yet in its current configuration?
@@RAW_Reality I haven't because Noone has a meter in my area to test it. A buddy of mine said it feels like a strong 158 to him but my box is alot smaller than it should so I expect 160s when I build the 4th
@@optionstrader9637 All that cone area, I'd believe it... Best of luck with the new build, and hope you get yours 60s.
i love how happy this guy is
Sweet. This Looks Like The Official Rival To The To Be Released EMF Banhanmer V2. MSRP Is Said To Be About $500.
Just try it out if one of your friends has a bigger ported box . One and a half the size of your box and be amazed I bought a smaller box the exact size they recommend and I can only assume that is the minimal specs because my original box sounded waayyy better especially on the lower bass notes which were non existent with the smaller box . By the way my bigger box is a older style JL audio h.o. box that has the red oval and grey carpet and I'm pretty sure it can still be better in another ported box with similar cubes but tuned even lower because I read somewhere the box I have is tuned to 40 hz . But like you said this is what you're testing in and anyone can test in whatever box they want on their videos . But you're missing out . Either way cool sub collection .
Those red oval JL boxes were the shit. I wonder if they are still around anywhere...hadn't seen one in years!
How about you do a giveaway with some of the older subs or something? You could do that when you get your own clothing line. Every $1 spent is an entry
I remember watching a video (from the Sundown Audio unofficial channel, I believe) that stated the X series and up were made here in Florida, so it's likely that is why peeps were thinkin' that sorta thing.
Sundown makes awesome subs, (I've owned a couple SA12's) but maybe priced a bit high. I scored mine the one and only time I seen 'em go on sale. $160, if memory serves
Yes the good ol days. 160 was the price. And even the 8 was around 115.
Definitely not made in Florida but North Carolina where sundown is located lol
you get what you pay for so
@@kevinAuman1 sundon isnt based from california lmao
@@timmythurman8801 well where in the fuck are they then China 🇨🇳
Parker bro, you just did a 144 with the xv3 and said a 141 was best we were gonna do??? 🤷♂️🤦♂️@16:33 you can clearly see a 144
I know I meant 144.1 😂😂
Personally I don't see much of a difference in sound compared to the V2 and V3.. I ended up with a Xv3 10" and a Xv2 10" there sitting in different boxes in my storage building ATM.. my daily is my Skar VXF 15" D2 on a Taramps HD3000.1 1ohm model.. but iv tested the Xv2 and Xv3 10"s and not much of a difference... The v3 is slightly heavier n plays slightly lower but other than that not worth the extra $$
Right!! The Xv3 is still basically the same as an Xv2, still gonna bottom out bumping below 20hz at 2000 rms
It has more motor force and more power handling with the zv5 coil. The sound was meant to stay the same as that's what it was designed for.
It's louder.
Do a review on the resilient sounds onyx 12. Ive been told its a monster too
It's a catalog sub. Those and Platinums are decent for what they are, but there isn't real R&D behind them.. Teams are inefficient trash.
2:27 what the hell parker you almost made me fall out of my chair
I have a sudown xv3 with a salt1 and was told it needs a salt3 is that true? Another thing my sub box just broke what kind of sub box do u recommend
So it looks like sundown zv3, american bass xfl, HD, and xmaxx are really close in loudness? 12 inch
Xv3 15 my upgrades 💚💜💙✅
Do these Subs catch everything or just the lows
after watching robot underground I'd never pay that for a sub. would rather have him make the same thing basically at a fraction of the price.
What would he need from you to build one, just a basket?
@@RomaVilla you'll have to ask him.
@@troydefond2307 LOL good luck with that
@@miiiikee_ naw, I saw how he does his work after waiting a few months decided not to order from him. instead got some emf banhammers on presale when they were 400$ a piece. not to shabby.
X8 on the 3 check the dust coming off the vehicle... impressive
Bought 2 xv3 12s about 3 months ago from a local dealer in Houston my boxes said made in China and it was a doubled box well packaged with Styrofoam around the subwoofers in plastic?
Wooooooooooooooo, Parker bringin that BIG ENERGY!!!!!!!!
I hope people realise it have an x max of 30 mm each way. So don't feel because if have a high roll surround you suppose to see plenty movement. It just 15 mm more x max each than most subs @9:12 the sub is going pass the xmax.
Just picked up 2x 15" Skar VXF d4 for 280.00 each. I dunno about 600+ for one 12".
A penny saved is a penny earned and that is true no matter how much money you have.
Real shitt
Please respond. I bought 2 for a qbomb box. I need the proper amp. What should I get? Switching from Memphis. Get at me. thanks
Which is you favorite sun u tested
I have 2 kicker Q 10s on RF 2500, do u think I would be better replacing them with this one sub for a broad variety of music? Thanks
Hey man if I play my sundown facing rear it makes a popping noise at full tilt facing up clear as a crystal any advice
i actually like the v2 for my setup i have a 190 amp alternator that cant be upgraded (v10 tdi touareg) so skipping the extra 500w might save my $800 alternator in the long run!
Yet I can get a 320 amp for a 2006 scion an it’s a brick on wheels it’s gonna be fun if I blow up my evl on that alt and a jp23 v1.5 lol
500 watts aint gonna make a difference
@@chefbgordon8892 I have a '06 scion xb , where did you buy a bigger alternator for it? Can I run jp23 1 ohm on stock alt with extra battery in back? Thanks!
Do you think it would handle a free air test like the Def bounce
URGENT!! What kind of screws and screw size did you use for your xv3?
Im looking to get 2 nice 15s. Any recommendations? American bass seems nice.
Lots of good stuff out there but American Bass is definitely one of my favorites for the price
Parker when are you going back original time for a Godfather or a X-Maxx bro*
Well order an Xmax this spring and they keep pushing the ship date back. Now American Bass is saying February of 2022!
@@ParkerTheBasshead Oh wow... what little I can find on the X-maxx you would think they are sitting on a ton of them. Wish I live around Cleveland. I'd get them to send one asap*
Can you make a video explaining “breaking in the sub” i dont know how long i should wait an how high i should play it at
The best way to do it is with a home audio amp. Sit it on the ground and push a little bit of power through it, no more than like 10% of rated. And just play a solid sine wave at the Fs of the sub.
If you only have a car amp, then just be careful with the power for a couple weeks.
That xv3 motor looks a lot like the one on the zv4... 🤔
How much does that thing weigh parker? Someone told me x line was in the 80lb range and I thought it was lighter than that
I’ve had the v2 for about a year off 2500w love it
What shipping did you choose? How long did it take to receive?
I just chose the standard free shipping. It look 2 days
Xv2 & Xv3....NICE! Are these the D2(2ohm) or D4(4ohm)for this comparison vid? Also i notice each coil has its own wire from sub to enclosure connections. I assume they are in Parallel. But to know for certain....Series or Parallel?
Mahalo in advance if u do reply....ALOHA🤙🏽
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Just purchased an xv.3 12... Working on throwing a salt 2 amp with it
@parkerthebasshead do you do stereo installations? And if so where are you located?
We need a Parker shorts vid of updated db test! 😀 That x v3 should be loosey goosey now. Looked super stiff in this vid
Different sub needs a different enclosure! Put it in a different enclosure and that score will go up. I can tell by your excitement that you love it! I prefer the u's but ive always loved the x
Why do you prefer the u's
Do you think that 600 dollars can do that tone test that the def bonce did??
How is it that the JL Audio W7 and the Earthquake DBXi 12s both have extremely high xmax and at peak to peak maintain a perfect surround integrity while this Sundown and also the Def Bonce kink and deform like a mf at high excursion?
That's because JL has a ton of science behind their products. JL has some deep pockets, like Fosgate, Kicker and the other big companies.
JL audio W7 is limited to 1500 rms after that it will smoke they will not take a beating like the X series super soft spiders, w7 is a efficient sub and clean but is limited
@@allmotorhash yah for sure if all you care about is raw power then x series is the way to go, but a lot people do care about sound quality and the w7 has it. 1500 rms for the average person is more than enough.
Also digital designs. I've seen some stupid excursion from them, and not once have I seen the surround dimple.
I think the reason sundown and other cheap brands do it comes down to a couple reasons. They use cheaply made surrounds, which don't have the strength and control needed for high excursion.
And, they use pointlessly large surrounds. In this vid, he was feeding 2-3 times rated power to his XV3, and the surround was only at like 60-70% flex. All that pointless material gets in the way.
x just took over 5k and no problems..!
How many watts are you giving the xv3??
Will the x12 v3 play all frequencies or only 40hz and below well and anything about 40hz its weak?
let me know the price of sundown xv3
Sundown make some great subs
Pretty similar to a zv5 for a little cheaper sounds like a win to me. I hate on China speakers but seems like everything is going to China production
Cool subs but, they have too much mechanical noise for me. I much rather have a clean low extending bass with no mechanical noise. Pretty much zeroed down on Fi Audio because of my SQ preferences and the fact that it is made in the USA.
Exactly. There are hundreds of subwoofers that sound better, are more efficient, and are cheaper.
You are paying for a name and xmax ability. And it's a very high price to pay, with many negative tradeoffs.
watch your vid then it made me go get 2 xv'3's 12's omg amazing on a tarampa bass 5k my roof looks like a wave pool they hit very hard in a 5.5 cube birch box sundown spec is rite on .....
Yo parker what's the max power the sundown X12 V2 2ohm can handle cause I've seen videos where one guy was push and 8k amp on just one sundown X12 V2 i no the rms is 1500 watts but it doesn't show the max power it can. Handle
Not knocking your video but all I hear Is tapping and buzzing and body panels rattling.
I know it's just the microphone being overloaded so I get it.
I can imagine what it sounds like in person.
If you sat in a car behind or in front of you I wonder if the microphone would be able to hear the bump better. It resonates inside a vehicle parked near you with no rattles and probably not overdriving the microphone.
I haven't seen anybody record it like that.
ya might want to try it.
It may let your audience hear the bass bump more clearly and hear it resonate and get loud and clear.