Does Spider-Man PS4 Still Hold Up? | Five Years Later
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Spider-Man 2 for PlayStation 5 is almost out, and so I figured there was no better time than the present to go back and give my thoughts on Insomniac's Spider-Man for PS4, now that it is five years old!
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On the point about the backpacks, Peter DID mention he apparently won a life-time supply of these things after refusing Wilson Fisks pay when he was recognized and they wanted to hire him (Hire Peter that is, NOT Spider-Man, felt I should clarify)
I was just about to say this
Which is a contrivance if I've ever heard one, but at least it's addressed lol
Yup
I find it hilarious his played this game four times over 5 years made this video and never understood the reason behind the backpacks
Actually it was from winning the Wilson Fisk science award. He refused the prize money becaue he coulnt in good conscience take money from such a corrupt man.But he took the lifetime supply of backpacks.
I just did another playthrough of this game and yes this game definitely holds up along with Miles Morales it's by far one of my favorite superhero games and I'm looking forward to Spider Man 2 and what insomniac is doing with Wolverine. I think Spider man 2 may be a contender of my GOTY because everything I have seen so far hasn't disappoint me. Great video by way J ;3
This title looks amazing and I do heavily enjoy the Tobey Maguire Suit a lot. It is great to see how amazing this title is, especially with all the attention it was given at the time.
When Aunt May died in this game I was balling so hard. It hit so hard man. Damn.
11:30 the game actually explains the backpacks because peter won a science contest but instead of taking the cash prize he accepted the lifetime supply of backpacks
That's so stupid though
@@Gamer-wo1st yup
@@Gamer-wo1st no you
@@watchmesquatch 😔
yup thats why hes literally broke
Played the entire game and the DLC on the PS5 last year. Despite the flaws like the stealth levels, the Taskmaster & Screwball side missions, the game is still a blast to play through, and I can't wait for the sequel this month.
Yeah as a longtime Spider-Man fan I don’t get why they used screwball or taskmaster for those when Mysterio or Kraven I feel would’ve been more appropriate for puzzle like games.
@michaelnally2841 I hope Mysterio does make an appearance in Marvel's Spider-Man 2. His illusion levels will be way better than the scorpion hallucinations.
*this week
@@mcurran6505He's already been confirmed
Screwball was extremely annoying taskmaster was intense
This honestly has my favorite version of Peter Parker, he’s got all of the basics of Spider-Man like problems he gets back up from and funny quips (one of my favorites off the top of my head being “Sable agents, help! I’m being attacked by Sable agents-OH WAIT A MINUTE!”), but the reasons he’s my favorite is because when it comes to Aunt May’s fate, he did what 616 Peter should’ve done in One More Day, he nearly didn’t but he knew he couldn’t sacrifice the city for his wants and Aunt May had a good, long life and now she can finally go be with Uncle Ben again, so whether he likes it or not he’s gonna have to deal with this
OMD and insomniac peter's choices are entirely different lol
@@BaconManGaming101 Ok, true, I may have been comparing the fate of Peter and MJ’s marriage to the fate of New York, but both were still concerning Aunt May dying and my point still stands that 616 Peter made the wrong choice in One More Day and Insomniac Peter made the right one
@@LucasHopkins2006 I wouldn't say peter made the wrong choice in 616, it's his marriage vs his surrogate mother's life lol I could understand him choosing his aunt, it's like super different compared to insomniac, and this is coming from a huge OMD hater
@@BaconManGaming101 Fair enough, I guess
@@BaconManGaming101 It comes across like a Norman Bates style obsession. His wife was pregnant, demons make Monkey Paw bargains, and how long will Aunt May live?
In my humble opinion... Hell yeah it does. This is still one of the better Spider-Man experiences we have ever gotten, both as a videogame and as a superhero story. Insomniac really knocked it out of the park
Should i get this or ghost of Tsushima?
@@mohnidgichki494Do you prefer swinging or swords? Go with that one. 👍
@@mohnidgichki494 both are valid depends if you like spider man
@@mohnidgichki494 Get Spider-Man
@@mohnidgichki494ghost of tsushima has such a cool story
I think comparing this game to Arkham is inevitable. Someone would have to be blind to not see that insomniac clearly pulled a lot of inspiration from Batman, and that’s a good and wise move.
This game is not good enough to suck Batman's balls. It has too many fucking problems
And rocksteady took inspiration from spiderman 2 Playstation 2 so it alll balances itself out in the end
Spider-Man 2 was so amazing though it’s my most favorite game my gf got it for me😊
If I'm being honest the game plays more like devil may cry than anything else. Really the only thing missing from this game is a style meter which I'm actually surprised isn't already in the game since it seems like a perfect fit.
THIS GAME IS 5 YEARS OLD?! WHEN?! HOW?! WHY ARE WE GETTING SO OLD
Btw, there's a throwaway line that says that Peter gets a life time supply of backpacks from the Fisk foundation, which is a good line considering how much backpacks you collect in the game
“You’ll rest easy, knowing your secret is safe with me” is such a narcissistic line. I honestly think Peter was ready to forgive Doc until he said that line lol
What I liked about the story was in the beginning Peter and Spider-Man felt like two different people, but by the end at a certain pivotal point in the story he felt one in the same. Doc ock slowly losing it while Peter is too busy being Spider-Man making it more and more personal
Well said
It absolutely holds up. I'm playing through the black cat dlc and it's such a delight to pick up and play.
Am i the only who feels the Remastered version of Spider-Man 2018 on PS5 looks better than Spider-Man 2?
No. I completely agree with that, and many others do too.
About 11:37 (the bit about the backpack) there are some collectables inside those backpacks and you can listen to peter talk about them. In one of them peter says he won a science competition that won him an infinite supply of backpacks, is it a bit stupid? Yes but I love it
This is absolutely, one of my favourite games of all time, I first played in 2022 when I got my ps5 and I adored it! Then I bought Spider-Man Miles morales and loved that too, I can’t wait to play Spider-Man 2 and as always another amazing video from you!
I mean, seeing as Spider-Man 2 for PS2 still does, I’d imagine that this game would do the same
for me the ps1 games and the first movie game still hold up even
@@charizardoreo excellent
One thing that really does helps Spiderman PS4 is how it allowed Peter to finally grow up by killing Aunt May. Infamously, the comics had Peter make a deal with Marvels equivalent of the Devil where Peter gave up his marriage in exchange for Aunt May's life. One More Day, as it's called, likely surpasses the Clone Saga in most hated Spiderman comics of all time, and has led to other stuff fans hate about the comics like the character assassination of M.J and Paul lmao. Really respect Insomniac for doing that as it allows Peter to grow.
Wouldn't surprise me if Spidey 2 ends with Peter proposing to M.J as well.
Mary Jane is so awful spider-man should be with black cat or someone who's a super like him
in my opinion gameplay is a 6, swinging upgrades the game to a 7 and the story upgrades it to a 9
I wish people actually reviewed the ps4 version of the game
I literally just played it again earlier, IMO it's still the best Spider-Man game
I played this game on the ps4 for the first time earlier this year. Even all these years after it came out, it was a breath of fresh air. Hell yeah it holds up!
For the backpacks, he won a contest from oscorp to get a lifetime supply of backpacks. Love the vids man
I’m sure he won them from Fisk not oscorp because he mentions not taking fisks money for a science prize he won
I think the insomniac spiderman games have been some of the best balance between being a video game and trying to chase the ‘cinematic movie’ experience.
If you want a really fun game with tons of freedom with the combat, this maybe isn’t for you, but it doesn’t mean the combat is extremely basic. You can still mess around and do some cool things.
And story, is incredibly good and surprisingly diverse in its setting for something set in one city. Loved anything to do with Ali’s boss fight and the whole last arc where the city is in war and you against the sinister six, wasn’t just cinematic, but incredibly fun and tense. Doing basically back to back boss fights.
And most gameplay issues I had (less of issues, but rather room for improvements) have mostly been answered in the sequal. Web swinging has multiple settings to set it to what you want and the new abilities add some more variety.
There’s still some small things I’m missing from previous games (e.g. fighting on a wall, running across the ground while web swinging), but so far, they’ve shown that they are continuously adding these little things with each instalment
Well said . Underrated comment
I waited years for this game to come to PC and it did not disappoint. The answer for me is an undoubtedly Yes
No fucking way was it 5 years ago…*checks date* fuck
Spider-Man is such a spectacular game and in just a week we’re gonna get an amazing sequel and we probably won’t need to wait that long for another marvel insomniac game since they’re making the Wolverine game which I have no doubts is gonna be uncanny
Spider-Man 2 kills this game
Kills the franchise indeed
The “new” Peter Parker will always look wrong. His face doesn’t match his voice at all.
Doesn't matter. It's about characterization, not appearance.
@@primalvelocity3811 except when he is talking specifically about the new appearance…
@@calebcarlcrouch Yes, which doesn't matter.
@@primalvelocity3811 are you honestly trying to argue that the visuals of the game don’t matter?
@@calebcarlcrouch Not at all.
I got the remastered version for PS5 last year and have poured hundreds of hours into it and have played the campaign multiple times. It still holds up very well.
I played Spider-Man remastered on ps5 back in July over my family’s house and it was amazing! That made me regret not choosing the ps5 back in my birthday
I completed SM2018 and DLCs like around, idk, twelve times? On PS4, PS5 and PC, did Platinum on all platforms and i always, ALWAYS , felt like i'm having fun.
Different gadgets, powers, it all makes you want to try new techniques.
And sure, in the end u actually go with what suits yours tastes the most but even then - it's just still fun.
Swinging on webs throughout New York is just amazing feeling. You swing above people's heads and cars and do tricks and zip from one point to another - it's magic.
Traversal is pulling up this already solid game and now, week before SM2, i only wish Spidey's speed during swinging would be a bit higher (like miles) but it's something i can live with (especially on PC, mods to the rescue)
I love Spider-Man 2018. It was my first game on first big Sony's console, being PS4 Pro, which i bought with my own money as my early birthday present and i platinumed it at my birthday. My favorite Spidey, always 👍
It will make me sad that if Spider Man goes into the Batman arkham trail, it has to end someday. But they will make more IP's.
dear god, just looking at the gameplay makes it seem so slow nowadays after playing sm2 lol
I'm not a superhero fan and I played this last year on PS4. I was completely blown away with it and had such a good time. It does Go on a bit too long with some filler missions though. I was too worn out by the end to play the DLC.
The second game doesn't have filler missions/ side missions. They improved and kept things lean.
@@zooomthesquirrel3707yeah but the boss fights are cancerous.
@@iter929 👍
Spider-Man PS4 is why I got a PS4 years ago but I won't be getting a PS5 because Spider-Man 2 look of Mary Jane and the new game's portrayal of cops in the game but if those are minor like the black and gold suit in Miles game I might reconsider
What's wrong with the cops
@@Lonelysum I heard that the game is harsh towards cops or downplays helping cops
@@TomMcD71 wow didn't where can I check it out
Still the best spider man ever made
I just preordered Spider-Man 2 last night. I just got a ps5 last month specifically 4 Spider-Man 2. Ive been playing the remaster for the 1st time on ps5. It was already dope on ps4 but its even better on ps5. Ive completed the main story & was having so much fun playing the dlc last night. I got so many games stacked up to play
Spider-Man PS4 is ranked way high as one of the best Spider-Man games out there. They took the formula of the character and made it work.
just found your page and it’s a gold mine. you make great videos i’m so excited to keep watching
Just finished a hitless run of the game including dlc and man, you definitely feel the difficulty, I’d definitely recommend it as a challenge if your looking for a more difficult experience that isn’t a higher difficulty, you really have to use all of your abilities to your advantage
Don’t think I could pull off a hitless, but you’re right about using all of the gadgets and experiment with load-outs to optimize your experience. I remember going through on Ultimate difficulty and barely at the end when I was battling Olympus Hammerhead, I found an OP load out that literally made me say “why didn’t I do this the whole game? In freaking unstoppable!”😂
I’m currently replaying the remaster and I’m back to the sister 6 forming and honestly the game does hold up,hell at times it’s even better than the second one especially when it comes to pacing. The only thing I kinda realize now then when I played it when I was 18 is it does feel cringy at times. Not Peter but everyone around him
Spiderman was what made me pull the trigger on a PS4, I had a nice enough PC since 2014, but got ps4-pro on 2018 to play this and god of war
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Peter having this many backpacks was explained in one of them
Peter won fisk money but didn't want it so he agreed to have an unlimited backpack supply or smth like that xD
I still can’t stop playing this game. It’s so much fun.
Has it been 5 years dang time flies 😔 😳
I'm replaying it now and still love it
I finished replaying the games yesterday and for sure it does hold up ( peter got a life time supply of bagpacks lol)
It's weird. Cause I can go into this game and play the story no problem, I have a good time and it's like binging through a Spider-Man TV show with me in the driver's seat. But if I wanna just hop in and relax I struggle to play it cause Miles was so much better in its traversal. However I believe the same will happen to Miles. I'll most likely be able to go to Miles and the original to beat the story again for the billionth time, but free roaming in my free time I'll probably struggle to get into the traversal as opposed to Spider-Man 2.
Insomniac are fantastic at enhancing previous experiences, however it's to their predecessors detriment. But I'll give them this, at least their games are still revisitable cause the story and side stories (especially Tombstone) are fun as all hell. I struggle to play plenty of early games in a series cause of its sequels, ans my personal favourite examples are the Arkham games. Arkham Knight is the best in gameplay and side content, but the main story kinda blows. But I really struggle to just pick up and play Assylum, City or Origins, I can only really play those if I'm grinding the story. Or another example being GTA 3&VC, like why would I play this obviously inferior game in my spare time to relax when I could just play a better game like 4, 5 or San Andreas.
Marvel's Spider-Man 2 will definitely do this to me. The only way I'll ever play another previous Insomniac Spider-Man game in my spare time is if someone else is on the PS5 and the PC releases are all I have 😂
This review really makes you feel like Spider-Man.
I think in the game they explain the backpacks were all science awards in middle school and high school, which ngl for my science award I got a trophy and a subway sandwich. Wish I got a backpack
Fun thing you missed they actually explain the backpack thing he won a life time supply of backpacks from a science competition if I remember correctly. It’s in one of the items in the backpacks where he says it
Loved Spider-Man 2018, loved Miles Morales, and can't wait to play the sequel. Great video as usual!
For someone who grew up with Spider Man 2 (2004) and Spider Man PS1, I had a blast playing Spider Man PS4. After all, Spidey is my favourite comic book hero ever and I had fond memories growing up and playing his various games along with his films. PS4 managed to just managed to entice me with such a great story, outstanding graphics, and a brilliant voice cast. I platinumed both the first game on both PS4 and PS5… alongside Miles Morales. With only a week away from Spider Man 2… I have full confidence in saying… this about to be the most hyped sequel of the year.
Also J, I would actually recommend doing an entire Spider Man marathon covering all his 3D games since they’re quite good… and if you enjoyed the web slinger’s game here… you might get a kick out of a few other of his games :)
I love this Spider-Man game. It's one of the best experiences when it comes to playing as Spidey, and it tells a compelling story that can be dramatic while still managing to be fun and lighthearted when it matters. That's something many Spider-Man stories either lack or don't balance properly (comics can be a downer, shows like Ultimate take the humour too far, etc.). The only real big thing missing from this game was my favourite character, Venom, which makes me all the more hyped for the sequel. ^^
The numerous backpacks were explained after collecting the Fisk trophy from one of them - as per winning a contest he was awarded free backbacks for life as his prize. Makes complete sense
I play this game at least once a year since it came out. It’s still a really good story and fun experience.
About the backpacks…there’s something Spider-Man says about winning a lifetime supply of backpacks from some Kingpin fundraiser lol
PS4 is the best version of the game.
I can’t stand the ps5 Tom Holland face.
You know my dad has a copy of this game and I've never played it. Should i ask him for it?
I just started to play this game today for the first time today I’m excepted to see what the hype is about
The advance suit is kinda my favorite suit now plus the raimi suit is cool but the advance suit has the blue with the orange and white just goes so well together
I can't believe its been 5 years already... Ig the Miles Morales game made it seem not that long ago
Ratchet and Clank is my favorite gaming franchise of all time.
Regarding the puzzles, I think it’s a matter of different people wanting different things, rather than a lack of confidence. Some people like puzzles, others don’t. They’re there if you want them, and if you don’t, you can skip them. It’s that simple.
I don’t really see it as that big of a deal. I’m not a puzzle guy. I always skip them, but I know plenty of people who love them and complete them all every playthrough.
i beat this game 9 times when i was 9 and then i
was 10 and beat the game 12 times it was fun
I’d rather play the ps4 version because of the face change 🤣
He swings around the city with the exaggerated swagger of a black teen
That ultimate Spider-Man music tho
Spiderman PS4 was an ok game but it didn't hook my interest. Though I love Erica Lindbeck as Black cat in the season pass dlc
Yuri Lowenthal is on par with Josh Keaton as the greatest Peter Parker of all time.
Surprised you didn't mention Ultimate Spider-man
of course it does, it's the best superhero game after all
5 years. My god i remember the first trailer and waiting a crap ton for it.
I recently played it to hype up for the sequel coming out, and minus a few nitpicks (screwball and the MJ & Miles missions) I still love this game to death
Only gameplay problems are a lack of true momentum and speed while swinging. Along with it being a lil too easy in my opinion due to the lack of physics. Additionally the combat while good definitely needs improving and more depth. Good thing the second (or third whatever) looks like it fixed all that. Hype hype hype hype
i'm playing it for the first time (well, not exactly; i tried it back when it released but didn't care much about it, and now gave it another shot), and i'm loving it! being fair, it's VERY AAA, the bloat bothers me a lot, but insomniac just got the juice when it comes to the traversal mechanics and the combat
As someone who’s about to finish it on PS4 for the first time, yes. This game is amazing! I hate fighting the Sable soldiers though. lol
This game looks better graphics wise than spiderman 2 lmao
You actually couldn't skip the puzzles when the game came out, insomniac added it later due to fans not liking it
20:47 this is by and large the most overblown criticism of the game. These are always so enjoyable because the characters are so good and it helps do a lot of the worldbuilding. And it's really fun to zoom through them.
Mary Jane's penthouse segment is easily the longest and it's still only 10-15 minutes. They can usually be completed in about 3 minutes apiece. They're exactly as long as you want to make them, and I find them completely harmless additions to the game and it helps to ground the story really well.
If it were an even 50/50 split between MJ/Miles and Spider-Man, now THAT would be a problem, but it's really at most 10/90. It's such a non-issue imo.
Not trying to say it's a masterpiece in game design, just saying it is not a net negative like most claim it is.
11:40 When you collect one of the bag packs about winning some trophie he makes a comment about how he declined some money from Wilson Fisk but did take an offer for a lifetime supply of bagpacks
Random, he didn't buy the 55 back packs. He won some kind of Mr. Fisk competition thing in High School and the reward was a lifetime supply of bags and prize money but he declined the money.
Spider-Man just has more engaging combat than the BatMan games. Just say the Batman games are good, yet pretty braindead in terms of dealing with threats.
This game is great but i think its sequel will trump it 🤔
Lol it didn't
I love spider man
I love this game despite its apparent flaws and it holds a special place in my heart, and I couldn't be happier than when I get back into this game from such a long time,there's a lot to love about this game and my favourite aspects of this game is his relationship with the city and many other characters and I especially love the emotional complexity that Peter has and it always feels very real,it quite literally doesn't even feel like acting it feels THAT real,this is an unpopular opinion but I actually really really like the sections where you play as Mary Jane despite the fact that many people feel it ruins the pacing,for me it doesn't coz it feels fresh and unique, it makes a really nice change to play someone without any superpowers, just a need to help the main protagonist in protecting the city,she's no billionaire, has no crazy gadgets or an out of this world ambition like any other superhero and that's exactly why I enjoy Mary Jane's sections within the game,she's ordinary with an extraordinary circle of friends that she works well with
Jesus Christ, yall are goddamn stupid. It's got some fucking flaws okay. It's got some really giant fucking flaws. You can't just say this is the best game ever cuz it's not. Is it fun to play? Hell yeah, it's fun to play. Does it have a great story? Yes, does it have great acting? Absolutely is combat fun? Yes are there parts of the game when I want to throw my ps5 through the goddamn window and hit someone in the fucking face with it yes again.
Y'all need to stop acting like this is the best game ever made. Stop sucking Spider-Man's fucking dick open your goddamn eyes. You retarded motherfuckers and look at the real fucking problems
Played this recently and I had a blast! This is a game that just begs to be explored and tells a good enough story to keep people hooked, in my opinion it's the best spiderman game! Great review!
While it's not my favorite Spiderman game (shattered dimensions are the one for me), this one is easily the most well-rounded.
I recently played it for the first time last month when I got my first PS console and I’m going to play through each of them in order, I really enjoyed the game and I’m currently 100%ing it now but yeah the combat, swinging, story and SOME of the MJ/Miles missions were great! Cant way to play Miles Morales and 2
I'm late with playing this game so i'm watching reviews to see if other people had the same criticisms. I would say this game is good and fun but there are a couple minor things that make big impacts. I'm glad the video mentioned the ease of web swinging. The thing nobody ever mentions 6:21 is that even if you don't "jump" off the web and you continue to hold down the R2 button you will automatically shoot another web. I actually really dislike this because its essentially playing it for you. As the video mentions you don't stop dead when you land on a building you keep running (but what if you wanted to stop). I also really dislike this because instead of automatically sticking to walls you have to press X to shoot a web to the wall to then stick. Which leads to wall climbing. Regular wall climbing is so slow its only useful for the stealth moments in the game. If you try to move faster it automatically makes you wall run. I dislike this a lot because a huge part of spider man is sticking to and climbing walls. What i would of wished is that holding R2 would make you climb walls faster and if they really wanted to include wall running then perhaps double tapping and holding R2 would make you wall run. The rest of my criticisms align with the videos for the most part such as the very basic combat system and ease of stealth missions. The only extra i would add is personally i'm not a fan of this new era stuff they added. Mary Jane was a model and actress let her be that. If you really wanted a woman journalist just invent another character instead of making Mary Jane a journalist. Lastly, peter cooking for mary jane...... stop pushing this new era stuff in "fictional reality" neither one of them would of been cooking they would have ordered pizza or chinese food lol. Again overall still a good game i wouldn't say to let these criticisms stop you from playing it but i would say it stops it from being a 10/10 that i see so many people describe it as.
I don't know if it's fair to be talking about how well the graphics held up when you're playing Remastered. The PS4 game does look great. But Remastered looks SO much better. Much sharper, cleaner, and has the option to run at 60fps. On PS4, it looks dull in comparison in a lot of areas, and you are locked to 30 fps. Remastered is an enormous step up in fidelity, textures, and performance.
Man, I love your videos, and this comment has nothing to do with this one (Great vid, by the way), but I absolutely HATE these clickbait "Does it SUUUUUUCK??????" thumbnails and titles on videos, and you had to sully your MGS collection video with that which I refuse to click. Oh well...
As far as simple fighting mechanics, well do you really want Tekken mechanics in an open world where you fight multiple opponents in all 3 axis? You really wanna do intricate combos that get reset everytime the 3rd goon taps you behind?
Heres a tip for anyine who complains about simple mechanics in these games.... BUY TEKKEN or Sifu for that.
Idk how you can talk about old Spider-Man games without mentioning Ultimate Spider-Man.
Ultimate and 2 were the top dogs of Spider-Man games until Spider-Man 2018 came around. Both games had their respective camps of people who thought 1 or the other was the best, but they both agreed that the other was at least the 2nd best.
It's crazy how in this game, the Chinese are trying to release "Devil's Breath", then in real life Covid19 is released by China. Then in Spider-Man Miles Morales, a bridge is destroyed and comes crashing down, then in real life that bridge in Baltimore comes crashing down by that ship the other week. Also in Miles Morales, there is a part where a cat is stolen and Spider-Man finds some thugs shooting up some electrical transformers and the same thing happened in real life. People were shooting up electrical stations.
Even in Metal Gear Sons of Liberty they were talking about using video games to create the perfect soldiers and years later....gamers are flying drones to kill people in war.
Are these cases of when art imitates life.....or is the world a stage?
Wouldn't call this a PS4 game anymore, coming from a PC gamer enjoying it as much as the Batman: Arkham quadrilogy.
If there's one lasting complaint about this, it's the dubious youthful refacing of Peter Parker. Gotta miss the OG face.
I just 100% Spider man, and I 100% Miles Morales now I'm going to 100% Miles Morales on Game Plus ultimate difficulty then it's on to 100 SM2
For all the amazing things combat is, the story and characters are really the weakest part of these games. Main game has a good story and the DLC's are also very very good, except the Miles DLC game. I just hope that they make Peter and Miles grow a spine and speak up, they were ran over by everyone and made to feel like chumps for some time. Their love interests were horrible, MJ, the best part of Peter's life made me think how bad it would be to date someone that toxic and the girl in Miles DLC, I mean, 0 chemistry between them, not only as love interests, but as friends, would bully Miles and would keep a high moral ground while being a literal terrorist and Miles would just nod his head like a dog and agree.
If the combat, other characters and traversal weren't this excellent and polished, I would have dropped the game at one point in time.