I have been running mine to heat my greenhouse every night, running in manual mode. I start it on low at sunset, and bump it up to medium before I go to bed (using the remote). The following morning, I turn it off manually at 9am. That's 16 hours of run-time. I refill it with exactly 1 gallon. Last night, I decided to try automatic mode. I set it to 11 degrees Celsius, and also let it run for 16 hours. It only used 1/2 gallon in that mode.
This fits well with other videos about this "8" kW heater, Maximum output seems to be around 3 kW.(i L diesel contains around 10 kWh energy, so 8 kW should be 0.8 L/h+ exhaust losses. Remember this when you compare to electrical heating costs.(Usually cheaper than electricity anyway depending on where you live)
I just purchased one of these and the specs they're giving on The one I purchased is .48 liters per hour so that's very close to your experiment happy to see that and very impressed
Was yours purportedly claimed to be 8kW? Diesel only contains about 10 1/2kWh per litre, so will only deliver about 5kWh worth of fuel every hour. Take off the heat losses and you are well below 5kW of useful heat output.😊
Please never disconnect the power when it is running, because it needs to run its shutdown process to cool down so you don't burn up the circuit board. Also it's a good idea to run it on high for 10 to 30 minutes before you shut off to burn off carbon deposit
Thank you for sharing. Let it complete the shit down mode to reduce risk of damage to unit. This will be my second winter and it is awesome heat for my insulated 12*20 wood shop. Everyone stay warm, safe, happy and healthy. From Henrico County Virginia
Dyed diesel is about $0.10/L cheaper. Furnace oil is just dyed diesel but if you are pulling it out of a heating oil tank in Ontario you might as well just buy clear at the pump because they put a tax on heating oil that eats any savings. There is a cardlock here that will sell dyed without a cardlock card. Some won't do that. I have a petropass fuel card but I don't think my work would appreciate using it lol
There is a video with heater think its used 3 years every winter every day they just put old car oil frying oil everything used even water in the mix anyway they open up the heater and to be sure there was build up of all the waste but it was just wash it out and re fire it up and it just as good as new :-)
I was curious the difference in output temp on low versus high mode. You said about 200 degrees on high never heard the output on low. And I’m wondering if you pulled outside air to burn in the combustion chamber if it would be a benefit or a loss on keeping the inside temperature up.
Simple mathematics tells you how much fuel you should use. The .022ml dosing pumps that are fitted to the 5kw and 8kw heaters use 0.119L/Hr running at 1.5Hz, 0.158L/Hr @ 2Hz, 0.238L/Hr @ 3Hz, 0.317L/Hr @ 4Hz and 0.396L/Hr running at 5Hz.
My 2kw one (the physically smaller one) had a .018ml pump but it wouldn't run on low and had hard starts. I put a .022 on and it works. Don't know if the pump that came with was bad or if it wasn't enough displacement. I ordered another 2kw one I'm going to try the pump that comes with it and see if it'll run it. I'm going to swap it out and take the heater apart and see if it carboned up with the bigger pump over the approx 100 hours it's ran. Still works fine
@@Storman77 seen a vid after I posted that and a guy said the ones in Canada have a bigger pump now that are 8kw. Who knows.He had comments turned off.
@@2hotscottpro that might be but I sell wabastos at my work and the 8Kw is substantially bigger . This unit is a copy of the 5kw size and all. I will try and see if I can find that !
@@2hotscottpro I really don’t see the difference . John Mck 47 goes through why they are not 8Kw and size , fan settings and the energy or transfer of energy he comments on. Simply need bigger in every way.
using one for 4years now to heat my home ,have two ,cheaper than uk electric or gas ,price of diesel’s going up all time I mix min with used cooking oil clean them out each summer.
£1.61 ltr now Jan 2023, 5ltr he says it takes so. Filled tank to brim 5ltrs, ran it on setting 3 until runout = 14 1/4hrs. Works out £0.565 per hour. Air inlet inside various starts from as low as 2 degrees to 7 degrees this morning. It puts out more heat than my oil filled rad on mid setting 1200W at .34p kw/hr = 41p per hour.
The point is for how long time can be do that ..... Now the machine is new .... what about after 2 years of use??? If you like to increase the heat can use a longer metallic flexible exhaust make it a coil..
Looks like if you don't run clean diesel it will come up quick and they say run it on low cuz if you turn it up it will leave a lot of soot and everything in the bottom of this thing I guess I don't know I guess I'm about to find out
I have been running mine to heat my greenhouse every night, running in manual mode. I start it on low at sunset, and bump it up to medium before I go to bed (using the remote). The following morning, I turn it off manually at 9am. That's 16 hours of run-time. I refill it with exactly 1 gallon.
Last night, I decided to try automatic mode. I set it to 11 degrees Celsius, and also let it run for 16 hours. It only used 1/2 gallon in that mode.
This fits well with other videos about this "8" kW heater, Maximum output seems to be around 3 kW.(i L diesel contains around 10 kWh energy, so 8 kW should be 0.8 L/h+ exhaust losses. Remember this when you compare to electrical heating costs.(Usually cheaper than electricity anyway depending on where you live)
I just purchased one of these and the specs they're giving on The one I purchased is .48 liters per hour so that's very close to your experiment happy to see that and very impressed
Was yours purportedly claimed to be 8kW? Diesel only contains about 10 1/2kWh per litre, so will only deliver about 5kWh worth of fuel every hour. Take off the heat losses and you are well below 5kW of useful heat output.😊
Thank you for doing this. This is EXACTLY what I wanted to know before purchasing one. Best 20 minutes I've spent.
Please never disconnect the power when it is running, because it needs to run its shutdown process to cool down so you don't burn up the circuit board. Also it's a good idea to run it on high for 10 to 30 minutes before you shut off to burn off carbon deposit
I have noticed that burning high before shut down helps
Thank you for sharing. Let it complete the shit down mode to reduce risk of damage to unit.
This will be my second winter and it is awesome heat for my insulated 12*20 wood shop. Everyone stay warm, safe, happy and healthy. From Henrico County Virginia
Always let it do the full shut down. The unit in all is passing my expectations as a heating unit. Thank Norm stay warm !
Thank you for this series of videos testing these heaters!
Excellent use of the puppy pee pad
Very informative. Thank you.
Has anyone tried putting Peltier devices, on the exhaust to charge the batteries?
I am not covering my exhaust because it releases heat into the room.
i did the exact same test on my channel and got same result 2.5 hour on 1 litre
Dyed diesel is about $0.10/L cheaper. Furnace oil is just dyed diesel but if you are pulling it out of a heating oil tank in Ontario you might as well just buy clear at the pump because they put a tax on heating oil that eats any savings. There is a cardlock here that will sell dyed without a cardlock card. Some won't do that. I have a petropass fuel card but I don't think my work would appreciate using it lol
Lol I’m sure they won’t
There is a video with heater think its used 3 years every winter every day they just put old car oil frying oil everything used even water in the mix anyway they open up the heater and to be sure there was build up of all the waste but it was just wash it out and re fire it up and it just as good as new :-)
I'm Impressed!
I was curious the difference in output temp on low versus high mode. You said about 200 degrees on high never heard the output on low. And I’m wondering if you pulled outside air to burn in the combustion chamber if it would be a benefit or a loss on keeping the inside temperature up.
Great info....many thanks.
Simple mathematics tells you how much fuel you should use. The .022ml dosing pumps that are fitted to the 5kw and 8kw heaters use 0.119L/Hr running at 1.5Hz, 0.158L/Hr @ 2Hz, 0.238L/Hr @ 3Hz, 0.317L/Hr @ 4Hz and 0.396L/Hr running at 5Hz.
Brain dead eh paul!do they understand the c value of diesel!
My 2kw one (the physically smaller one) had a .018ml pump but it wouldn't run on low and had hard starts. I put a .022 on and it works. Don't know if the pump that came with was bad or if it wasn't enough displacement. I ordered another 2kw one I'm going to try the pump that comes with it and see if it'll run it. I'm going to swap it out and take the heater apart and see if it carboned up with the bigger pump over the approx 100 hours it's ran. Still works fine
I read the 8k’s are only 5k or maybe AvE said that?
I believe that . They can’t be 8 kw they are same pump same physical size
@@Storman77 seen a vid after I posted that and a guy said the ones in Canada have a bigger pump now that are 8kw. Who knows.He had comments turned off.
@@2hotscottpro that might be but I sell wabastos at my work and the 8Kw is substantially bigger . This unit is a copy of the 5kw size and all. I will try and see if I can find that !
th-cam.com/video/fWn1lASQpP0/w-d-xo.html What do you think?
@@2hotscottpro I really don’t see the difference . John Mck 47 goes through why they are not 8Kw and size , fan settings and the energy or transfer of energy he comments on. Simply need bigger in every way.
do you think one of these heaters will be able to heat a 30x30 garage?
No you would need 4 of them, I use 2 of them in my 35 foot bus
Agreed need more power
Thanks. I saw they claimed 27k btu.. might be a bit of a stretch then. However. It does get rid of used oil and help heat a space.
I run one(8kn) in my garage 24 x 32 well insulated walls and ceiling.With it on the low setting it will keep the garage at about 53 at 15* f.
@@rogerthetinker5116 wow impressive
Shame you didn't do a heat test on the low ......can't believe these cheaper than running a UK heating system in your home
I did do heat testing but I did forget to share you are right . Guess I need to get busy . Yes it’s crazy
using one for 4years now to heat my home ,have two ,cheaper than uk electric or gas ,price of diesel’s going up all time I mix min with used cooking oil clean them out each summer.
@@johnhealy9231 any dangerous fumes yet?
Would you say one of these all in ones are better than the kit ones that you put together yourself?
@@robton007 you would have the exhaust going outside so you don’t get fumes.
@@Alexander_l322 sorry I meant to say.....is the smell ok as I am thinking of getting one and having the unit inside the home with exhaust outside
Nearly £2 a litre in the UK ain't such a cheap option
Red diesel is cheaper or used engine oil which is free.
@@Alexander_l322 I'm gona check out where I can buy great vid 👍
Use heating oil, should be just under £1 a litre at the moment.
@@leighreid5480 All i am seeing is min quantity 500 litres 88.5p + vat £425 ish outlay.
£1.61 ltr now Jan 2023, 5ltr he says it takes so. Filled tank to brim 5ltrs, ran it on setting 3 until runout = 14 1/4hrs. Works out £0.565 per hour.
Air inlet inside various starts from as low as 2 degrees to 7 degrees this morning.
It puts out more heat than my oil filled rad on mid setting 1200W at .34p kw/hr = 41p per hour.
You multiplying by ten is totally unnecessary lol
What a boring commentator
Agreed
The point is for how long time can be do that ..... Now the machine is new .... what about after 2 years of use???
If you like to increase the heat can use a longer metallic flexible exhaust make it a coil..
Been running mine for 4 years no problem clean out every year ,can even mix with with vegetable oil .
The maximum length and total degrees of bends permissible for the exhaust is in the installation instructions. Exceed those limits at your peril!
Looks like if you don't run clean diesel it will come up quick and they say run it on low cuz if you turn it up it will leave a lot of soot and everything in the bottom of this thing I guess I don't know I guess I'm about to find out