Its difficult, sure... but mastering him already gave you the best rushdown in the game that was already basically unreactable, forcing you to guess several times to even stand a chance. Now? He's faster than the fucking netcode. Insane stuff.
@@DoctahDizzle As a big Xmen fan, it "does put a smile on my face" that they're OP in this game. But simultaneously I wish the game had more balance lol
I think Justin was playing on Steam (the button prompts are Xbox, and in the Twitch VOD someone in chat asked Max how the Steam version felt, so Max switched over to the Steam version to play against him. But yeah I hate games that have voice chat turned on by default without push to talk so you don't even know your mic is hot.
Seeing Justin's team diversity and ability to play them all to a high level is so much more impressive to me than watching Storm, Sent, Magneto at an insane level 300x.
This is kind of what the Arcade Scene used to be like. Diverse character pools and people understood their character really well. Not until VoDs of tournaments and in depth analysis videos were being made on TH-cam that it became common for people to just play the highest tier characters/strategies because the barrier to figuring that shit out was removed.
That’s how every actually good marvel player I have met is like. They are hiding secrets. A friend of mine in high school would tease me with “if only you knew guile’s weakness” as he is blending me 😂😂😂
I remember when Mike Tyson in punch out on NES used to be the game you played to graduate into becoming a man as you could not say you were a man till you beat Mike Tyson in punch out
@@wakandaforever616 the sad part is Mike Tyson in punch out was easy to beat when you knew his pattern but jwong is a beast any way you cut it if you beat him you deserve praise and if your beaten by him take from your loss the information you gained and use it to improve
I'd like to thank Justin for the infamous "you gonna learn today" quote because as a beginner, it's been a really good motivator for a friend and I to push each other during rank (we play t7/t8) 😂👍
Justin losing it and laughing out loud with Max reactions mid battle is a 11/10 sight to behold. He was playing with open mic waiting to get some human interaction, Max provided it
Between watching Max and Justin play matches and me revisiting the series with this and MvC3... I've finally accepted that my eyes simply aren't fast enough for MvC. Won't stop me from playing it, I love these games, but goddamn, I truly have no idea what's happening half the time, lmao. Also, I need to rewatch Justin's matches now that I know that his mic was hot the whole time, hahaha.
@KnightOfNewColu Yeah, I might mess with that setting to see if it helps. It's all good, though! I don't play fighting games competitively at all, I play them the way kids play with action figures: "Ooh, it'd be fun to match these guys up and see what happens", lol
Half of it is anticipation. Like Max said, MvC2 is a very assist-heavy game, so you track the enemy character and keep an eye out. If they jump or dash, they'll most likely use an assist too, so you prepare to block or counter. Likewise, when you're coming down from a hyper jump, you use your assist to catch the opponent by surprise. The hardest part is timing for combos, it's going to take some time in training to figure it out. Learning how to play (not win) against certain teams comes with experience.
@@UltimaRedFireEskimo we had this dude at the arcades who dressed up like Clark Steel (his main) and shouted and posed the attacks of the character everytime he connected a hit, in KoF98 and KoF2000. Most of the time released the lever and buttons to say "Hey!", "Hey, come on!" and "Running Three oryaaaa"... only on hit, of course, otherwise was really focused. It was hillarious to watch, but he played really good, too.
30:20 this is my philosophy as a former gymnast now coach; when you've perfected your craft so much it looks easy to others despite it being other worldly difficult, you're doing something right.
This is what happens when you remind Justin about the Daigo parry continuosly over the years, you dealt pain on him so much he transformed into The Wazzler and now you will suffer as much as he did.
This was the most confy friendly video to watch of mvc2 and actually make me interested in wanting to learn how to play it. The editting was SO on point to give us viewers a chance to process what is actually going on with the assists and other super fast mechanics that a few characters display. I am always watching all of your fighting videos from time to time and this is probably my favorite of all time from mvc2 that you ever put out. Thanks for that to you both.
10:33 Max you are the single biggest reason why there are thousands queuing up to play MVC2. It wont drop for a while cause your passion for it resonates throughout the whole FGC. Youre like the FGC Godfather.
The idea people would refund the game after fighting and losing to Justin is hilarious to me. I would go hey I fought Justin Wong...he kicked my ass yeah but I still got to fight Justin Wong.
Ikr. There's six other games in the collection they could be playing plus offline multiplayer, and yet, they refund the game because they chose to go online in the hardest game in the collection. Lol
Imagine putting that in the "Refund Reason". "So, um, I got my ass beat by Justin Wong. That multi-EVO champion guy, yeah. I feel like my ancestors are also humiliated from that ass-beating so I'd like to refund instead."
I don't know what's been more entertaining since the launch, enjoying this classic game from my teens or watching people like max and justin relive their's.
Justin is the reason why I'm always nervous if my opponent is using low-tiers. My eyes automatically hovers to their names when they pick characters that I don't usually see. lol
Max this made me nostalgic af for the old vids you and Justin use to play. More of this please. You guys trying random funny fighting games would be hilarious.
Yes Wong from way back in summer 2000 mastered this game. He blocked things that would make ur head scratch. But the best I’ve seen? He was not an infinite guy, no flashy combos etc. Just straight beating using intellect. He is to this day, to me, the best there has ever been at MvC2. Sandford Second. Yipes Third. Desmond XCutioner 4th cause his thrax is crazy. And then the rest.
Max fighting for his life😂 & hearing the button smashing brings back so many memories from tilt days the arcades used to pop i actually luv the sound…god im so weird lol
Imagine buying MvC2 and the only online player is Justin Wong... Tries to play offline, CPU difficulty at Justin Wong only. When you play other game, it stops you. "What are you doing player?" "Justin waits for your return..."
"Five Fights at Wazzler's" "The Wazzler-Rooms" "Wazzler Fingers" "Don't Wazzler Me, I'm Scared" I thank Film Theory for knowing the references I'm using.
Man. Idk who helps max with the edits on his videos but he needs more edits on his videos. This shit is mad funny. I love videos like this. Entertainment baby
The GAP between the characters they were using with their goofy teams and the ones when they got "serious" amazes me. This game humbles you and reminds you to play just for fun. I love to have Marvel back
Yeah, she's the only one I've seen that runs ON THE "CEILING", as opposed to just a wall jump or double jump, etc. It always frustratingly surprised me when the computer did it and crossed me up with the triangle kick.
When these two play, they have 40+ combined years playing this game, they are so smooth and deliberate with every input its easy on the eyes to watch. I feel like when I play MvC2 its a shit storm mess on the screen going on at all points 😂😂
@@killerb255I mean a one on one setting such as this.. in full comfort where they both can truly let it all out. Max holds back when playing with yovideo and Justin held back at Evo. And again, In MvC2 specifically. If they've battled before this I was unaware.
Who needs a PS5 when you can lose $699.99 games worth of quarters for free. Just get you a copy of the new marvel collection. I can practically feel the quarters rolling out my pocket just watching each match. 10/10 Go for Broke!!! 😂
Justin not knowing his mic was on in game for his entire run of destroying the entire MVC2 community is the funniest shit ever LMFAO
imagine your playying Justin & hes just unknowingly shit talking you & you cant figure out how to put your mic in! XD
What video was that?? Lmao
3:25-3:45
The collection has voice chat?????
@@ZephyrK_ see I didn't know that cuz the matchmaking is bummy but since this is proof it does I'm ready to talk shizz
The Wazzler on a hot mic singlehandedly responsible for a 90% playerbase decrease. As god intended.
Nah I beat him twice
Wow you're so cool @@jaimeduendeozzzkr
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@jaimeduendeozzzkrVery cool. Now let's beat each other up irl and see who wins.
Bro might actually be better than Thanos.
This is Justin's revenge for everyone Daigo parrying him the past few years.
In MvC, no one can parry you.
If they bring this collection to Evo Daigo and Justin would go nuts
Someone call Yipes
@@Sonicfan101SwagmasterI think they will
@@LZClericYipes ducking Khaos
The Netcode: I think I'm pretty fast honestly.
Magneto: "And I took that personally."
Its difficult, sure... but mastering him already gave you the best rushdown in the game that was already basically unreactable, forcing you to guess several times to even stand a chance. Now? He's faster than the fucking netcode. Insane stuff.
It is so tough because it is essentially hard code. If you remove rollback, online is worse. Keep rollback, and Magneto is one of the best characters.
@@allainangcao28
Isn't Magneto already one of the best characters
@@l.n.3372 Yes, he's God tier in MVC2. Now, he basically teleports. 🤣
@@DoctahDizzle
As a big Xmen fan, it "does put a smile on my face" that they're OP in this game. But simultaneously I wish the game had more balance lol
Savior of the MVC2 community vs the destroyer of the MVC2 community
"The Battle for Survival Begins!"
Underrated comment for sure!
I hope they cast Adam Driver and Ke Huy Quan in the movie.
@@ThePebble_20 id petition for Benedict Wong instead of Ke Huy Quan.
The result... a very fun video to watch.
I feel like if you somehow beat JWong online, the credits should just play.
if you even get a good combo in, you should be given a firm handshake by Capcom themselves.
😂😂
NewLife+
"Thank you for playing Marvel vs. Capcom 2…"
That would be the first round cuz you know he’s on his B team rotation then his shuma morphs into Strider
How many “Welcome to the Real World” incidents has Justin perpetrated in just the past 24 hours
How many loaves of bread have you eaten in your life
The answer is yes...
And how many "You gonna learn today" incidents happened too 😂
yes
More than the amount of people who bought Marvel vs Capcom Infinite.
I feel like Wazzler is just the evil alter ego of Justin unleashed after years of getting ragged on for EVO moment #37. We created this monster.
RUMBLING RUMBLING
You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the wazzler
Dude legit turned into a supervillain
"Were people able to hear me this entire time?!"
As much as I hate the ps4/ps5 mic FOR THAT REASON you got to admit, that's funny as hell lol
I think Justin was playing on Steam (the button prompts are Xbox, and in the Twitch VOD someone in chat asked Max how the Steam version felt, so Max switched over to the Steam version to play against him. But yeah I hate games that have voice chat turned on by default without push to talk so you don't even know your mic is hot.
@@sean8102 nah i think they should be on by default, that's why COD lobby was so good back in the old days.
You know why they made sidewalks?
Because the Streets ain't for everyone.
The Wazzler
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
The wazzler....handing out Ls, one refund at a time 😂😂
The Lawzzler
"Welcome to THE REAL WORLD. YOU GON LEARN TODAY."
@@MikedotAnd that's the Wazzler way
Refuk
Putting the fun back into ReFUNd
This Wazzler guy looks a lot like Justin Wong
ikr, feels like wong lost brother
@@LusquitasBustin Long
Nahh
@@killerb255Wustin Jong
Should we tell Justin about this Wazzler guy destroying new players
Seeing Justin's team diversity and ability to play them all to a high level is so much more impressive to me than watching Storm, Sent, Magneto at an insane level 300x.
That's the thing. Justin understands this game at a fundamental level to the point where he can just put a team together and figure it out on the fly.
Let's not forget he's also like the best Storm player ever too
This is kind of what the Arcade Scene used to be like. Diverse character pools and people understood their character really well. Not until VoDs of tournaments and in depth analysis videos were being made on TH-cam that it became common for people to just play the highest tier characters/strategies because the barrier to figuring that shit out was removed.
@@Papercut625The future will never truly know Chinatown Fair
Justin Wong loves MvC2 so much that he wants it all for himself.
That’s how every actually good marvel player I have met is like. They are hiding secrets. A friend of mine in high school would tease me with “if only you knew guile’s weakness” as he is blending me 😂😂😂
Fighting gamers check under their bed for the Wazzler.
Hahahaha 🤣
I am become Death Wazzler of Worlds.
I am become Wazzler, Refunder of Worlds
Dread it. Run from it. The Wazzler arrives all the same.
Justin has basically become this sort of legend wherein fighting him in MvC2 means you've become a man. XD
Justin Wong has become the Legend27 of Mahvel 2
I remember when Mike Tyson in punch out on NES used to be the game you played to graduate into becoming a man as you could not say you were a man till you beat Mike Tyson in punch out
I remember when I finally beat Tyson 😂 I was only able to do it twice in my life 🤣@@Mahal_kita1077
@Mahal_kita1077 that's a great comparison I fully remember that too
@@wakandaforever616 the sad part is Mike Tyson in punch out was easy to beat when you knew his pattern but jwong is a beast any way you cut it if you beat him you deserve praise and if your beaten by him take from your loss the information you gained and use it to improve
imagine buying this and the whole experience being your 1st time and your 1st online match is against Justin Fucken Wong.
I’m so scared to buy it bro i don’t even know what the buttons do😂 Wong finna ruin me
@@truehawk3379I would take it as an honor to be utterly trounced by him. It’s humbling if you are on a winning streak I bet.
I’d be hype as hell lol
Some 12 years old: "Iron Man on a fighting game, and my dad told me this was the best fighting game ever made, cant wait to play it!"
personally, I would be stupidly happy getting my crap kicked in by Justin! It would be like meeting a legendary celebrity!
I'd like to thank Justin for the infamous "you gonna learn today" quote because as a beginner, it's been a really good motivator for a friend and I to push each other during rank (we play t7/t8) 😂👍
More Justin and Max content please! I feel like I’m back at the arcade listening to and watching you guys.
Triple KO podcast every other week for more Max and Justin content (and Matt McMuscles).
Justin losing it and laughing out loud with Max reactions mid battle is a 11/10 sight to behold.
He was playing with open mic waiting to get some human interaction, Max provided it
Between watching Max and Justin play matches and me revisiting the series with this and MvC3... I've finally accepted that my eyes simply aren't fast enough for MvC. Won't stop me from playing it, I love these games, but goddamn, I truly have no idea what's happening half the time, lmao. Also, I need to rewatch Justin's matches now that I know that his mic was hot the whole time, hahaha.
@KnightOfNewColu Yeah, I might mess with that setting to see if it helps. It's all good, though! I don't play fighting games competitively at all, I play them the way kids play with action figures: "Ooh, it'd be fun to match these guys up and see what happens", lol
Still easier to follow than a Smash match.
Half of it is anticipation. Like Max said, MvC2 is a very assist-heavy game, so you track the enemy character and keep an eye out. If they jump or dash, they'll most likely use an assist too, so you prepare to block or counter. Likewise, when you're coming down from a hyper jump, you use your assist to catch the opponent by surprise.
The hardest part is timing for combos, it's going to take some time in training to figure it out. Learning how to play (not win) against certain teams comes with experience.
that’s where most people give up on marvel, they aren’t fast enough
I found it really funny when Justin imitates the screams of the jabs or kicks the characters shout. "She says..." or "He says...". Always amusing.
I think it’s a regional thing to New York lol. I grew up there and haven’t heard any other state I been to in the west coast say stuff like that.
@@UltimaRedFireEskimo we had this dude at the arcades who dressed up like Clark Steel (his main) and shouted and posed the attacks of the character everytime he connected a hit, in KoF98 and KoF2000. Most of the time released the lever and buttons to say "Hey!", "Hey, come on!" and "Running Three oryaaaa"... only on hit, of course, otherwise was really focused. It was hillarious to watch, but he played really good, too.
Even Max can not escape Refundzzler.
30:20 this is my philosophy as a former gymnast now coach; when you've perfected your craft so much it looks easy to others despite it being other worldly difficult, you're doing something right.
This is what happens when you remind Justin about the Daigo parry continuosly over the years, you dealt pain on him so much he transformed into The Wazzler and now you will suffer as much as he did.
Daigo literally turned him into a Batman super villain lmao
This was the most confy friendly video to watch of mvc2 and actually make me interested in wanting to learn how to play it. The editting was SO on point to give us viewers a chance to process what is actually going on with the assists and other super fast mechanics that a few characters display. I am always watching all of your fighting videos from time to time and this is probably my favorite of all time from mvc2 that you ever put out. Thanks for that to you both.
midtiers in mvc2 is seriously some of the most fun you can have in a fighting game
Justin: I wondered why no one talked back to me….
Max: Yeah I wonder why….
😂😂😂
10:33 Max you are the single biggest reason why there are thousands queuing up to play MVC2. It wont drop for a while cause your passion for it resonates throughout the whole FGC. Youre like the FGC Godfather.
Uhh…no
I can't find any games for Marvel Super heroes vs Street Fighter
Cap
@@DiseasedCowsyeah it's the black sheep of the series
@@MJVanD and why not excatly
The wazzler'd edits were gold. "I guessed." 😂
"Get Wazz'd on"
-Justin Wong, probably after every match... Allegedly.
Max VS Justin
Let's Go!!!
MvC2 = delivering that magic
It is insane how many possibilities there are with every character. So good to see it return
At this point it's just an honor to be wazzled by the wazzler.
The idea people would refund the game after fighting and losing to Justin is hilarious to me. I would go hey I fought Justin Wong...he kicked my ass yeah but I still got to fight Justin Wong.
Ikr. There's six other games in the collection they could be playing plus offline multiplayer, and yet, they refund the game because they chose to go online in the hardest game in the collection. Lol
After fighting Justin Wong: "How long did I last?" "About as long as everyone else."
Imagine putting that in the "Refund Reason".
"So, um, I got my ass beat by Justin Wong. That multi-EVO champion guy, yeah. I feel like my ancestors are also humiliated from that ass-beating so I'd like to refund instead."
@thevenom2731 no one is actually refunding. It's just an internet meme trying to be funny.
THey wouldn't last 1 hour in the arcade back then. Prolly the types to mess up the stick when they lose.
3:08 Max: Let me live
Justin: WELCOME TO THE REAL WORLD. YOU GOTTA LEARN
I don't know what's been more entertaining since the launch, enjoying this classic game from my teens or watching people like max and justin relive their's.
As the classic meme says "Both" "Both" "Both"
Justin is the reason why I'm always nervous if my opponent is using low-tiers. My eyes automatically hovers to their names when they pick characters that I don't usually see. lol
Justin’s level of skill just proves Max’s infinite skill cap theory. It’s freaking nuts
“I guessed” 😂 Justin is being a mad scientist mid battle. It’s top tier stuff!!
The determination of Max's face. Ive never seen him concentrate so hard lol
Get in here, Wong! I need pictures of this "Wazzler" menace on my desk by tomorrow morning!
"And two great titans came into existence, the Maximilionis and the Wazzlonis."
The Doods and the Wong Factor, maybe?
Xenoblade reference???? That's hella based
I love how Justin plays these random select looking teams but actually has stuff with them It's mindblowing.
To be honest Max did better than most of the planet against Justin. These two are just awesome forces of fighting game might.
Even Justin was complimenting Max on his blocking
I can’t believe we’re watching MVC2 content in 2024
Max this made me nostalgic af for the old vids you and Justin use to play. More of this please. You guys trying random funny fighting games would be hilarious.
Justin Wong must be hearing Doom Eternal music in his head when he's playing MvC2 online
"the only thing they fear... Is me"
Mans vengeance arc after everyone Dunkin on him in Twitter this year
JWong literally goes to fightcade cuz the collection is already too ez for him lmfao
Makes sense. It's mostly new or casual players
That is a perfect thumbnail 😂
Top tier thumbnail🤣
The editing in this vid was on point! All the Wazzler moments with slowdown and stuff was hilarious lol
Max has waited for this his whole life and now he's going to refund the game LOL
Lmfao my favourite part in the second match is max fighting for his fking life absolutely locked in and justin wong casually talking 😂
Please more content like this. Two friends that understand the game trying fun match-ups and techniques is enthralling to watch.
They gave Magneto King Crimson Stand, more like, Ping Crimson.
24:44 Max on prom night
Wazzler turning this into "Hentai VS Capcom". 😄
- Hey Justin, what are your mains in MVC2?
- Yes.
"how come people dont talk back to me"
Never change Wazzler, never change
Yes Wong from way back in summer 2000 mastered this game. He blocked things that would make ur head scratch. But the best I’ve seen? He was not an infinite guy, no flashy combos etc. Just straight beating using intellect. He is to this day, to me, the best there has ever been at MvC2. Sandford Second. Yipes Third. Desmond XCutioner 4th cause his thrax is crazy. And then the rest.
Max fighting for his life😂 & hearing the button smashing brings back so many memories from tilt days the arcades used to pop i actually luv the sound…god im so weird lol
So it's all over then...
Yes
"Time to put the fun in REFUND" 😭
Imagine buying MvC2 and the only online player is Justin Wong...
Tries to play offline, CPU difficulty at Justin Wong only.
When you play other game, it stops you.
"What are you doing player?"
"Justin waits for your return..."
Scarier than most creepypasta
You sir made a CreppyPasta.
"Five Fights at Wazzler's"
"The Wazzler-Rooms"
"Wazzler Fingers"
"Don't Wazzler Me, I'm Scared"
I thank Film Theory for knowing the references I'm using.
I wazzle, you wazzle, he/she/it/they wazzles, wazzled, wazzling, the study of Wazzlology…
There's the problem! You got it set to W. When it should be set to M.
MAXOLOGY!!!!!
"I wonder if this combo will kill me."
Whoever's editing this one is godlike, the zoomins are hilarious😂
Justin knows all the lost knowledge like amingo unblockables
Man. Idk who helps max with the edits on his videos but he needs more edits on his videos. This shit is mad funny. I love videos like this. Entertainment baby
The GAP between the characters they were using with their goofy teams and the ones when they got "serious" amazes me. This game humbles you and reminds you to play just for fun. I love to have Marvel back
2 legends of the fighting genre scene, what an absolute treat watching them play and chatting, thank you 😁
Justin Wong is the gamer version of "beware of an old man that's in a profession where men die young"
Justin basically took all of the jokes he's heard about Evo moment #37, and when this was announced, he was like "Payback time"
That Sonson schmovement at 15:14 was ridiculous. I thought she was gonna dodge everything.
Yeah, she's the only one I've seen that runs ON THE "CEILING", as opposed to just a wall jump or double jump, etc. It always frustratingly surprised me when the computer did it and crossed me up with the triangle kick.
You don't "fight" the WAZZLER, you get WAZZLERED.
I can’t tell you how happy thus video makes me. You are the two I’ve been watching since this game was announced
Putting the FUN in REFUND
Lmao, this guy out giving verbal commands to jill, and they working is crazy 5:23
5:25 Jill put that down!...Yes! 💀
lol i saw that
i came here for this comment, i laughed so much
Damn, Max put up a pretty good fight! Good shit Dude. 🤟
You needed to change the name on this video to "So......I've chosen death today."
Love watching Justin put on a showcase of the roster and kick ass while doing it.
Wazzlernomics.......it's Justin's world we just have to hold back in it
I can watch two people that love and know this game, on this level, play this game infinitely... Please continue.
Thumbnail got Justin looking like an anime villain
"Is that unblockable?"
Justin: Yeah, that's unblockable....
This game is so much fun to watch when the 4 gods aren't on screen
When these two play, they have 40+ combined years playing this game, they are so smooth and deliberate with every input its easy on the eyes to watch. I feel like when I play MvC2 its a shit storm mess on the screen going on at all points 😂😂
14:27 CANONICAL EVENT
Love the editing on this video man this was super fun
Justin Wong fixes his glasses menancingly
Seeing you two always makes it a hype collab
They need to give JWong a special skull icon for his account
The editing + Ruby's anchor = chef's kiss.
Justin Wong has the Mandate of Heaven. It is known.
Oh em gee that was sick af I could see the respect oozing out of all that blocking Max was doing
No Max, don't do it, you've gotta learn today to defeat The Wazzler
loved the no op character usage here, so much variety and fun
The true final boss, not Abbys.. The Wazzler!!! With his trademark level 3: The Refund
Can this please become a video series? I love it so much!!
I have been waiting YEARS for a Full Out Brawl in any game between Justin and Max, let alone MvC2. This is like a Mythical Battle of Legend 😂
They’ve had quite a few back and forths…YoVideogames vs JWong at EVO.
@@killerb255I mean a one on one setting such as this.. in full comfort where they both can truly let it all out. Max holds back when playing with yovideo and Justin held back at Evo. And again, In MvC2 specifically. If they've battled before this I was unaware.
@@killerb255Might I add that even if they have battled before, is it not still Legendary all the same ? 😂
Who needs a PS5 when you can lose $699.99 games worth of quarters for free. Just get you a copy of the new marvel collection. I can practically feel the quarters rolling out my pocket just watching each match.
10/10 Go for Broke!!! 😂