Either that or she's not really his daughter and he's someone who grooms young women or teens and then gets "rid of" them once he's had his fun. I do think your idea is more likely though.
Tarantino has flirted with (and abandoned) a lot of sequels/spinoffs : Double V Vega, Kill Bill Vol. 3, Grindhouse 2, Killer Crow, Django/Zorro. I think he loves the idea but gets bored before he makes them. Also, I think there's a lot to admire about wanting to go out on top.
It’s stupid. Scorsese and Spielberg are 80 and 77 and still great. Eastwood is in his 90s and still good. Manoel DeOliveira was directed until he died at 106 and was still a great artist.
This is why Rocha is not a casting agent. He judges actors by who looks like the character. But the main point is who has the range to play that character.
Omfg, the couples shirt thing was outta control. But, I love dumb, sappy stuff like that. Good to know Jeff has a soft side to him, too. As totally wrong as many of his takes are... 😝❤
Sneider, if you haven't seen these Walter Hill films already then I recommend you do so: Hard Times: When we talk about the best Bronson films - the ones where he's the lead, not part of an ensemble - then we mean 3 films: The Mechanic, Death Wish, and this one. - and I would say the case could be made that this is the best out of those 3. Extreme Prejudice: I will never understand why this film wasn't a bigger hit when it first came out. To me, it's probably in the top 5 of best pure action films of the 80s (and by 'pure' I don't include the hybrids that combine other genres). Johnny Handsome: This one is a solid if unspectacular neo-noir. But it's worth it for peak Mickey Rourke, and the rest of the cast isn't too shabby either: Morgan Freeman, Forest Whitaker, Ellen Burstyn and of course Lance Henriksen. Trespass: Again, I don't understand why this wasn't a bigger hit when it first came out. Such a great, tight little story - a contemporized Treasure of the Sierra Madre. I think it was simply due to bad timing: It came out right around the time of the LA Riots, so the studio got gun shy and scaled back the release (echoes of The Warriors release). Based on an original script by Zemeckis and Gale (yes, those two). Last Man Standing: I actually hated this when I first saw it around the time time it came out, but now it's one of my favorites - it's aged really well. There's a great atmosphere to this film. Great hard boiled noir dialogue. Undisputed: I'm not going to say it's great but a prison boxing film starring Wesley Snipes and Ving Rhames (playing a version of Mike Tyson) can't be bad. Solid - does it's job. My only criticism is that the boxing scenes could have been tighter (and given the subject it's a significant criticism) but if Hill retired off this one it would have been a strong swansong.
Raimi Spider-Man movies are great (yes even 3). Not dated at all...If they're dated now, they were dated then. Those movies were very old-fashioned even for the early 2000s...That's why they're great! They're very awe shucks matched with zany 80s filmmaking. They're wholly unique. The best stuff of Multi-Verse of Madness is when they let Raimi really cook with the visuals!
I heard that DiCaprio was supposed to be in The Godfather Finale Aka The Godfather Pt 4, as Santino "Sonny" Corleone. Deniro was supposed to reprise his role as Vito Corleone. And, as far as other actors, they have yet to be confirmed. But, is it too late to still make this film. I mean, DiCaprio would be cool to play Vito, while they can still find someone to play Santino. Ya never know.
Wagner Moura is great as the lead in the two Tropa de Elite movies from Brazil. First one is more of a straight up action movie but the second one is a full blown political thriller. I think you would like them both
Yknow after a handful of pretty mean, pretty bromance-heavy movies I wouldn’t mind Tarantino doing a more romantic film in the vein of True Romance (or Jackie Brown).
I kinda hope he makes that Star Trek film, and make it PG-13. It would be so far out of what he’s done already, I think that would be very interesting.
I was pretty much on the same page as Jeff and his take on the situation with Tarantino. For a myriad of reasons whether it wasn't the script coming together, the cast not coming together or whatever, or the pressure of it being the last film and things not working out the way he wanted, I could see him and don't blame him for stepping away. I was a little surprised that Rocha was that forceful about his objections, but I get that, too. Maybe just clamp down and 'put the big boy pants on' so to speak, but I dunno, I don't know that he's not experiencing anything any of us wouldn't (no, none of us are writer/director of Tarantino's stature, I just mean in the sense of facing some obstacle and figuring out how to tackle it). I also found it somewhat funny just how frustrated Rocha seemed to be with the situation. Like he said, I can see him kicking down Tarantino's door going, "Get a hold of yourself, man!" 😂
Raimi had his time with Spidey I just am not excited by that pick. DiCaprio as Sinatra just feels kinda boring very safe. But I guess at his age Scorsese would rather worry about other things and just get actors he knows will deliver for him.
@@camerondalton1495yeah it was sad when that fell through but still that time and era is over. I’d like to see what he could do developing a Doctor Strange film from the start as opposed to just coming in to direct what was already developed, I wasn’t mad at MoM.
Wagner Moura was great as Pablo Escobar on Narcos, he's Brazilian so he had to learn Spanish for the role. Pedro Pascal and Boyd Holbrook are also good as the DEA agents. Moura also directed a couple Narcos Mexico episodes. Tell Jeff icons unearthed Batman episodes are fire.
I’m so tired of Tarantino and the “last film” nonsense. Arbitrarily picking the number 10 and quitting is so stupid. If you run out of ideas fine, otherwise it’s stupid.
Given Sinatra's background, his love and significance for the italo-american community in USA , i don't see Scorcese casting a non italo-american for the role.
@@JohnRochaSays i actually agree with you , i was not refering to Leo di Caprio but I rather give the chance to another actor of italian descent...problem there's not a lot 😅 with acting chops and around 30's that looks like Sinatra. Cooper is half italian , he has everything for him but doesn't look like him, Centineo seems a bit young and don't know if he can sing but i am sure there's someone out there.
Abigail was radio silences second best movie for my money, weirdly marketed as the twist from the trailer happens way later in the movie than i thought it would (but could you sell the movie on a more basic premise without it? I guess we won't know). I know jeff is not a hater but his ongoing onesided beef with RS is pretty funny, bring on ready or not 2 (is she gonna get remarried? lol, maybe she dates a lesbian and her family are the weirdos this time). It sucks that ungentlemenly warfare isn't screening outside of the us wish some youtubers or people up the foodchain would call amazon out on it. EDIT: "If you think about it for 5 seconds it is forgettable" so is roadhouse and reacher and all these things too what a weird line to delineate (there are like 5 memorable movies a year usually, we have had two already [Dune & Monkey Man for me] that's fine), to each their own of course, jeff is right about sinatra though. EDITED AGAIN: 1:07:03 i am pretty sure they announced it was 2D no? Also, i really wanted to like civil war (it was in my top ten anticipated) but it just didn't have the juice, after Devs and now this libertarian wank I sadly feel like Garland has lost his edge (Dredd, Ex Machina and Annihilation is one of the best 3 movie runs too; disappointing for me).
I bet Rocha was pissed at Barry Sanders for retiring when he felt like it 😂 Tarantino doesn’t owe the movie community anything, if he wants to cap himself at 10 that’s his prerogative. He’s a creative he’ll probably unretire anyway down the road
I feel like the twist of Trap will be that it’s his daughter that’s the serial killer and helps her as a supportive father 😂😂😂😂
Either that or she's not really his daughter and he's someone who grooms young women or teens and then gets "rid of" them once he's had his fun. I do think your idea is more likely though.
I think there are multiple killers who all follow this popstar as their killer queen so to speak.
Tarantino has flirted with (and abandoned) a lot of sequels/spinoffs : Double V Vega, Kill Bill Vol. 3, Grindhouse 2, Killer Crow, Django/Zorro. I think he loves the idea but gets bored before he makes them. Also, I think there's a lot to admire about wanting to go out on top.
It’s stupid. Scorsese and Spielberg are 80 and 77 and still great. Eastwood is in his 90s and still good. Manoel DeOliveira was directed until he died at 106 and was still a great artist.
Enough of the Raimi disrespect! 😢
If he's up for a Spider-Man film, it should be Spider-Man 4 with Tobey Maguire
This is why Rocha is not a casting agent. He judges actors by who looks like the character. But the main point is who has the range to play that character.
Omfg, the couples shirt thing was outta control. But, I love dumb, sappy stuff like that. Good to know Jeff has a soft side to him, too. As totally wrong as many of his takes are... 😝❤
Rocha died inside when he heard that Star Wars scoop.
Time stamp?
Sneider, if you haven't seen these Walter Hill films already then I recommend you do so:
Hard Times: When we talk about the best Bronson films - the ones where he's the lead, not part of an ensemble - then we mean 3 films: The Mechanic, Death Wish, and this one. - and I would say the case could be made that this is the best out of those 3.
Extreme Prejudice: I will never understand why this film wasn't a bigger hit when it first came out. To me, it's probably in the top 5 of best pure action films of the 80s (and by 'pure' I don't include the hybrids that combine other genres).
Johnny Handsome: This one is a solid if unspectacular neo-noir. But it's worth it for peak Mickey Rourke, and the rest of the cast isn't too shabby either: Morgan Freeman, Forest Whitaker, Ellen Burstyn and of course Lance Henriksen.
Trespass: Again, I don't understand why this wasn't a bigger hit when it first came out. Such a great, tight little story - a contemporized Treasure of the Sierra Madre. I think it was simply due to bad timing: It came out right around the time of the LA Riots, so the studio got gun shy and scaled back the release (echoes of The Warriors release). Based on an original script by Zemeckis and Gale (yes, those two).
Last Man Standing: I actually hated this when I first saw it around the time time it came out, but now it's one of my favorites - it's aged really well. There's a great atmosphere to this film. Great hard boiled noir dialogue.
Undisputed: I'm not going to say it's great but a prison boxing film starring Wesley Snipes and Ving Rhames (playing a version of Mike Tyson) can't be bad. Solid - does it's job. My only criticism is that the boxing scenes could have been tighter (and given the subject it's a significant criticism) but if Hill retired off this one it would have been a strong swansong.
Raimi Spider-Man movies are great (yes even 3).
Not dated at all...If they're dated now, they were dated then. Those movies were very old-fashioned even for the early 2000s...That's why they're great! They're very awe shucks matched with zany 80s filmmaking. They're wholly unique.
The best stuff of Multi-Verse of Madness is when they let Raimi really cook with the visuals!
Maybe Kill bill 3 can be titled as Killed Bill and then they would have a way to continue the story 😂
While I agree the Raimi spiderman movies are dated, I think Spiderman 2 is still a top 3 CBM of all time.
Don't care about looking like Sinatra - its about the performance and script.
I heard that DiCaprio was supposed to be in The Godfather Finale Aka The Godfather Pt 4, as Santino "Sonny" Corleone. Deniro was supposed to reprise his role as Vito Corleone. And, as far as other actors, they have yet to be confirmed. But, is it too late to still make this film. I mean, DiCaprio would be cool to play Vito, while they can still find someone to play Santino. Ya never know.
Wagner Moura is great as the lead in the two Tropa de Elite movies from Brazil. First one is more of a straight up action movie but the second one is a full blown political thriller. I think you would like them both
Yknow after a handful of pretty mean, pretty bromance-heavy movies I wouldn’t mind Tarantino doing a more romantic film in the vein of True Romance (or Jackie Brown).
I kinda hope he makes that Star Trek film, and make it PG-13. It would be so far out of what he’s done already, I think that would be very interesting.
i dont get the hate of the transformers one Trailer it looks great
I was pretty much on the same page as Jeff and his take on the situation with Tarantino. For a myriad of reasons whether it wasn't the script coming together, the cast not coming together or whatever, or the pressure of it being the last film and things not working out the way he wanted, I could see him and don't blame him for stepping away.
I was a little surprised that Rocha was that forceful about his objections, but I get that, too. Maybe just clamp down and 'put the big boy pants on' so to speak, but I dunno, I don't know that he's not experiencing anything any of us wouldn't (no, none of us are writer/director of Tarantino's stature, I just mean in the sense of facing some obstacle and figuring out how to tackle it). I also found it somewhat funny just how frustrated Rocha seemed to be with the situation. Like he said, I can see him kicking down Tarantino's door going, "Get a hold of yourself, man!" 😂
As much as I love it when Jeff goes off the rails, I love me my Rocha rants! Agree, disagree, whatever, he just loves movies.
Raimi had his time with Spidey I just am not excited by that pick.
DiCaprio as Sinatra just feels kinda boring very safe. But I guess at his age Scorsese would rather worry about other things and just get actors he knows will deliver for him.
But Spider-Man 4 though.
@@camerondalton1495yeah it was sad when that fell through but still that time and era is over.
I’d like to see what he could do developing a Doctor Strange film from the start as opposed to just coming in to direct what was already developed, I wasn’t mad at MoM.
@@C-BeeAdmit it. Your not a DiCaprio fan.
Shout out to Alan Ritchson! He’s definitely invited to the cookout.
Always a tragedy when I miss these live. I hope we get The Ragin' Cajun Jeff today (guess I'll see here shortly)... 🤣
Wagner Moura was great as Pablo Escobar on Narcos, he's Brazilian so he had to learn Spanish for the role. Pedro Pascal and Boyd Holbrook are also good as the DEA agents. Moura also directed a couple Narcos Mexico episodes. Tell Jeff icons unearthed Batman episodes are fire.
I think Civil War is absolutely a metaphor for filmmaking and movies, just like The Killer was.
Johnathan Goldstein & John Francis Daley wrote the script for Spider-Man Homecoming
The shot of the president at the end reminded me of Mussolini
If you want people to be hooked by the casting of Sinatra go with Gosling. As much as I hate suggesting it- better than Leo and I LOVE Leo.
A Tarantino "Waltz with Bashir" might be interesting...
Miles Teller as Frank Sinatraa, he is 37 he can sing and dance.
Out of all his speculated project, I don't want a KB3. No way. Original stuff.
99.9% of western animation is for kids. Most Japanese animation is targeted towards 15yo+.
The movie critic should be a novel.
Maybe suddenly Tarantino have a more brilliant idea that the movie critic
Mike faist, west side story is a great choice
Abigail was awesome
I’m so tired of Tarantino and the “last film” nonsense. Arbitrarily picking the number 10 and quitting is so stupid. If you run out of ideas fine, otherwise it’s stupid.
Given Sinatra's background, his love and significance for the italo-american community in USA , i don't see Scorcese casting a non italo-american for the role.
Ok. Then find the right one that looks like him and not just the guy who can get you the money for it.
@@JohnRochaSays i actually agree with you , i was not refering to Leo di Caprio but I rather give the chance to another actor of italian descent...problem there's not a lot 😅 with acting chops and around 30's that looks like Sinatra. Cooper is half italian , he has everything for him but doesn't look like him, Centineo seems a bit young and don't know if he can sing but i am sure there's someone out there.
@@JohnRochaSays I dont give a shit about Sinatra. I want to see Leo do another movie.
I can hope he changes his mind to finish off Kill Bill with a volume 3 lol
Uma has to call I feel. During the Me Too era he had made mention of losing her trust as a director because of that car accident.
Abigail was radio silences second best movie for my money, weirdly marketed as the twist from the trailer happens way later in the movie than i thought it would (but could you sell the movie on a more basic premise without it? I guess we won't know). I know jeff is not a hater but his ongoing onesided beef with RS is pretty funny, bring on ready or not 2 (is she gonna get remarried? lol, maybe she dates a lesbian and her family are the weirdos this time).
It sucks that ungentlemenly warfare isn't screening outside of the us wish some youtubers or people up the foodchain would call amazon out on it.
EDIT: "If you think about it for 5 seconds it is forgettable" so is roadhouse and reacher and all these things too what a weird line to delineate (there are like 5 memorable movies a year usually, we have had two already [Dune & Monkey Man for me] that's fine), to each their own of course, jeff is right about sinatra though.
EDITED AGAIN: 1:07:03 i am pretty sure they announced it was 2D no? Also, i really wanted to like civil war (it was in my top ten anticipated) but it just didn't have the juice, after Devs and now this libertarian wank I sadly feel like Garland has lost his edge (Dredd, Ex Machina and Annihilation is one of the best 3 movie runs too; disappointing for me).
Acting ability and screen presence are more important than a resemblance in casting someone to play Sinatra.
Or, ya know, you could find someone with all three.
Florence Pugh has Marilyn Monroe written all over her. If the conversation doesn’t start with her then it’s not worth having.
Let marilyn rest we don't need to see another attempt (i like florence don't get me wrong)
I’m not seeing the vision
@@famousthaneus9810 Then open your eyes.
@@famousthaneus9810You don’t have to.
Minus the giant breasts, though -
Norma Jean and Marilyn is a good movie
Right?!
Fassbender for sinatra
Dave Franco would be interesting as Sinatra.
Nah. He doesn't have the charisma of a Sinatra.
@@JohnRochaSays I don’t know that I agree with that, but who knows?
Tarantino needs to make Kill Bill Vol 3 like he wanted to do a few years ago. Uma Thurman vs Zendaya would do insane numbers.
Give me more ufos movies
Emory Cohen from the movie Brooklyn would be a good Frank Sinatra he's small like Sinatra and has a good NY accent.
Mike Faist would be perfect. Spindly, wirey, tough looking...Leo is too tall, too pudgy..watch West Side Story again...he can do it
I bet Rocha was pissed at Barry Sanders for retiring when he felt like it 😂 Tarantino doesn’t owe the movie community anything, if he wants to cap himself at 10 that’s his prerogative. He’s a creative he’ll probably unretire anyway down the road
Ha! I wasn’t cause the Lions sucked and couldn’t put a Super Bowl team around him. I would’ve retired too! QT is something different.
Gosling as Sinatra