BEING ARBËRESHË IN ITALY | SALENTO, PUGLIA | UNIQUE CULTURAL MIX BETWEEN ALBANIA AND ITALY

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  • @TravelDialogues
    @TravelDialogues  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

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  • @vendumsica
    @vendumsica 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

    Përshëndetje nga Shqipëria!
    Ju duam shumë 🇦🇱🇮🇹
    Un caro saluto dall'Albania!

  • @Kevin_M312
    @Kevin_M312 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    This man seems very intelligent on our history. Much respect to our Arbereshe brothers for keeping our culture alive

  • @giuseppeprincipe5340
    @giuseppeprincipe5340 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    My family is Arbereshe from Cosenza, Malvito and San Sosti. Great Video!

    • @Nome_utente_generico
      @Nome_utente_generico 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Non capisco perché dice né italiani né albanesi: mai sentito un arbreshe dire che non è italiano.

  • @kaloarepo288
    @kaloarepo288 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

    In Australia our prime minister is half Italian and his name is Tony Albanese - his surname meaning "Albanian" in Italian would indicate an Arbereshe origin.

    • @kaloarepo288
      @kaloarepo288 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@komodo.8022 He's neither he's Australian!!

    • @Chiamami_Capo
      @Chiamami_Capo 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@kaloarepo288What a monkey comment, albanese is pure italian name 😂😂😂

    • @theduck0
      @theduck0 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      ​@@user-er3bx8qb1j Usually people in Italy with the surname "Albanese" are indeed of Albanian-Arbëresh origin.

    • @Alistir_TheChessPlayer
      @Alistir_TheChessPlayer 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      ​@user-er3bx8qb1j Albania is not a latin name. Alban or Albanoi was called an illyrian tribe living in Durres area. That is where does the name Albania come from.

    • @kaloarepo288
      @kaloarepo288 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Alistir_TheChessPlayer I'd say it came from a proto Indo European word "alp" meaning mountain as in the European ALPS or it could come from the Latin "Alba" meaning "white" because of the white snow on the mountains!

  • @theduck0
    @theduck0 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    We use Mirëdita in Albania too, but it would be the equivalent of the Italian "Buon Pomeriggio", however you can still use it as a general greeting before evening.

    • @ervinxx2545
      @ervinxx2545 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Shiko videot e tjera te ketij kanali.. jan Grek. Jan Kale Troje.. futi nje dislike dhe report per disinfo

  • @dardan5180
    @dardan5180 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Tutto bello, emozionante anche !.Shuje dritën= (spegni la luce)😅.Grazie infinite che avete custodito la lingua Arberesh. Eccellente il vostro lavoro!.

  • @anacastriota7573
    @anacastriota7573 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Grazie per questo video.

  • @JetBlue-1313
    @JetBlue-1313 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    ❤ Well done, my friend, I learned something new. My parents we're born in Ururi

  • @paolorossi9180
    @paolorossi9180 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Le comunita' albanesi sono pure presenti in Sicilia e Calabria

    • @mirkov83
      @mirkov83 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Anche in Molise e Puglia ( Foggiano)

  • @bdnl6268
    @bdnl6268 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I live in US but lived nine years in Italy. Thiis brought back many good memories. Met Arbereshe from Calabria and Piana degli Albanesi in Sicily. They are Catholics but many belong however to the Italo-Albanese Rite - similar to Orthodox.

    • @sp2558
      @sp2558 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      because they where orthodox greeks... and it was called piana dei greci prior to mussolinis and the popes intervention... they where forced to change confession and have been albanized... the itallians always used Albania as proxy against the Greeks... same as turkey... both want more influence in the eastern mediteranean... this is high chess geopolitics which is going on since the roman era... back in 1870 when the arbaresh people knew what they where they asked greece to accept them back to flee the catholic church opression ... of course greece and kapodistrias accepted them as greeks at that time... thhey who didnt leave accepted to change confession and where brainwashed to a false albanian identity ... Albania didnt exist back then but they where albanized nevertheless. Later italian Nazis used the Albanians and the CHAMS to invade Greece during the WW2 but they lost the war... you Arbaresh need to wake up and start asking some questions to your elders... some of them might know... but most likely those who really know what happened are long gone...

    • @illiria2000
      @illiria2000 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You guys were calling yourself Romans all the way up to the 20th century.
      Why did it took a Bavarian kind and the Arvanitas population for you people to find your “Hellenic” ancestry?
      Mussolini is been dead for over 80 years so why are the Arbëreshë still claiming to be from the old Albania and why do they not speak Greek?
      Can you understand their language, because I can.
      You modern Greeks, are nothing more than Turks with crosses around your necks. That’s why a lot of you guys look more middle eastern than European in the face. lol

    • @user-Lugina
      @user-Lugina 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@sp2558 Në cilën shkollë i mësove të gjitha këto përralla or njeri shumë i mirë dhe intelegjent ?
      Si është e mundur që kaq shumë i besoni gënjeshtrave tuaja ?
      Po si nuk keni turp të vazhdoni të jetoni të zhytur në marri të tilla dhe bajate ?
      Do i paguani gjithsesi një ditë mëkatet ndaj çamëve që i bënë gjyshërit tuaj të mjerë. Një popull duar thatë i shtypur, i masakruar dhe i shpartallaur nga vendet e tyre. Ty dhe sorollatit tënd, verbëria e urrejtjes do ju qelb në harresë.

    • @ervinxx2545
      @ervinxx2545 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Arberesh means Albanian.. Piana dei Greci were called by locals for the Orthodox Rite.. Gateano Petrota was born on Piana Dei "Greci" him explains very well what are the Arbëreshe

    • @ervinxx2545
      @ervinxx2545 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      The problem with the Greeks are the Philhellenes Books.. like this below
      Page n54
      and social condition of the albanians-administrative divisions- Military influence gained by the Albanians during the eighteenth CENTURY-In Greece after the year 1770-Policy of Ali Pasha of Joannina-suliots, the most remarkable tribe of orthodox albanians - Their rise and social condition - Repeatedly attacked by Ali Pasha-Last war-The priest Samuel-Treachery of Suliots-Capitulation of Suu-Fate of Suliots.
      Page n58
      The Hydriots of every rank displayed the peculiar character of the Albanian race. They were proud, insolent, turbulent, and greedy of gain. The primates were jealous and exacting, the people rude and violent. But both possessed some sterling virtues; and they were distinguished from the Greeks by their love of truth, and by the honesty with which they fulfilled their engagements. There were no traders in the Levant who paid more punctually than the merchants, and no sailors who took better care of ship and cargo than the mariners of Hydra.
      Page n61
      Such was the position of the Albanian race in Greece, where its settlements were comparatively modern. In its native regions its political importance and moral influence had been constantly increasing during the latter half of the last century, and it had attained the acme of its power at the commencement of the Greek Revolution. The Albanians Mussulmans were detested by Osmanlees and hated by the Greeks. Their religion was hardly a matter of conscience with the majority. They were less bigoted than the Turks, and less superstitious than the Greeks. Their avarice was, however, insatiable, and for gold an Albanian Mussulman would willingly serve a Christian master, or a Christian Albanian a Mussulman chief, even if the service was to be rendered in deeds of blood.
      Page n61
      The Albanian forms a distinct race among the nations of Europe. They have been supposed by some to be the representatives of the Pelasgians. They call themselves Shkipetar. Some suppose them to have occupied the regions they now inhabit before the days of Homer, and that they are the lineal descendants of the race to which the ancient Epirots and Macedonians belonged as cognate tribes. Alexander the Great must, according to these archaeologists, have spoken an ancient Albanian dialect at his riotous banquets with his Macedonian officers.
      Page n61
      The researches of modern philology have established beyond question that the Albanian language is an early offset from the Sanscrit, and that its grammar was complete at as old a date as the oldest Greek dialect.^ Nearly the same boundary separates the
      Page n62
      Ancient Epirus was filled with Greek colonies, and the Greek race is now more numerous than the Albanian in the region immediately to the north of the Gulf of Arta. But, on the other hand, one-fifth of modern Greece is at present inhabited by Albanian colonists.* The inhabitants of Albania, of the Shkipetar race, consist of two distinct branches-the Gueghs, who dwell to the north of the valley of the Skumbi and the line of the Via Egnatia. That great artery of Koman life now forms a desolate line of separation between the Gueghs and the Tosks. The dialects of these two branches are said not to differ more in their grammar than the Scotch of Ayrshire and the English of Somersetshire, yet a Guegh and a Tosk are unintelligible to one another at their first meeting. Both branches are subdivided into several tribes. Among the Gueghs several Catholic tribes retain their semi-independence, and uphold the Papal supremacy alike against the Mo-
      Page n68
      ' of the Albanian mercenaries. It became then not uncommon, in Greece and Macedonia, to see the children of the proudest Osmanlees dressed in the fustinello, or white kilt of the Tosks. Subsequently, when Veli Pasha, the second son of Ali of Joannina, governed the Morea,^ even young Greeks of rank ventured to assume this dress, particularly when travelling, as it afforded them an opportunity of wearing arms. The Greek armatoli and the Christians employed as police-guards, even in the Morea, also wore this dress; but it was the fame of the Albanians-for the military reputation of the armatoli was then on the decline and that of the Suliots on the ascendant-which induced the f modern Greeks to adopt the Albanian kilt as their ' national costume. It is in consequence of this admiration of Albanianism that the court of King Otho assumes its melo-dramatic aspect, and glitters in tawdry tinsel mimicry of the rich and splendid garb which arrested the attention of Childe Harold in the galleries of the palace of Tepelin; but the calico fustinello hangs round the legs of the Greeks like a paper petticoat, while the white kilt of the Tosk, formed of a strong product of native looms, fell in the graceful folds of antique drapery.
      archive.org/details/historygreekrev02finlgoog

  • @ringokali09
    @ringokali09 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    love you arbereshe

  • @diellonrrezon5982
    @diellonrrezon5982 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Miredita Trima Zoti Ju Bekofte 8 ) Dhe Arbereshe Apo Arberore Eshte Ishe Emertimi I Jone Plake Dhe Thirre Nga Farefise Dhe Fjalorine Gege Albe Arben Arbnia Dhe Ne Fjalorine Toske Arbe Arber Arberore Nga Arberia Te Mesjetese Nje Gjuhe Nje Kombe Nje Flamure Dhe Nje Prejardhje 8 )

  • @denissaliaj9459
    @denissaliaj9459 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Not albanians like us from albania but definitely our brothers of the wide albanian as family group (like latin family group, slavic, germanic etc.)

    • @ervinxx2545
      @ervinxx2545 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ça thua debile.. si nuk qenka Arber si ne..?? E ke lexuar Jeronim De Raden.??

  • @JS-cj7jf
    @JS-cj7jf 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    We enjoyed the lively discussions. Interesting to learn about the Aberesche people. Thank you 😊

  • @lisanikci8925
    @lisanikci8925 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    wow so beautiful i after visits my sisters brothers 🙏🏻🙏🏻♥️♥️

  • @tonyintrevado8960
    @tonyintrevado8960 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Shume mire! Yam te Montreal. Linde tu. Em tat et mum erthun caha Ruri. Gjaku spresh.

  • @Milan1Nikolic
    @Milan1Nikolic 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Locals are cool guys

  • @brunobassi2440
    @brunobassi2440 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Pur parlando tre lingue diverse c'era lo stesso DNA nei veri albanesi, nei veri greci e nei veri italiani del sud Italia.
    Ora non più ma in antico era così.

  • @playstationdianto21
    @playstationdianto21 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Vabbe Mirdita si dice in tutta l'Albania cambia solo l'orario tipo mirmengjes lo puoi dire alle 9 di mattino Mirdita alle 14 o alle 15 ad esempio, c'è anche un paese vicino Lezha che si chiama mirdita

  • @auroraprifti4187
    @auroraprifti4187 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Buona matina =mirremengjes buon giorno = miredita. From my grandfather I am from Vlora and from my grandmother from Berat and me and family friends whole Albanians says all time
    (Mirëdita)he says has nothing to do with Albanians 😂 it's not arrberesh the right term is arbëror like Gjergj Kastrioti Skënderbeu was arbëror and Albanians today, but if you don't want to be his ancestors is OK. We Albanians are plenty of traditions in music in culture gegh tosk lab cham. I dont understand why this guy is reacting like arvaniti of Greece 🤔.

  • @antonellalubraco4858
    @antonellalubraco4858 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Erano soldati ed erano coraggiosi scapparono in italia per poter rimanere cristiani anche il figlio di skanderbeg fuggi in italia senza skanderbeg i turchi sarebbero sbarcati a otranto 30 anni prima

  • @albalb6409
    @albalb6409 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Arberesh-arvanitas arbanas arban alban e la stessa parola

  • @aureliabenga9844
    @aureliabenga9844 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Bella lingua!

  • @giuseppebuccoliero285
    @giuseppebuccoliero285 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Miredita a tutti i nostri cugini arbreche

  • @soccerplayerfan251
    @soccerplayerfan251 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great job brother! If you go a bit back by a few thousand you will find that probably 80% of Italians are pelasgo/Illyrian. Etruscans that wrote on the stone, the whole region of Tuscany (Tosk in south of Albania), the old Albanian royalty families of Trieste, etc. Rome, Paris and many other so called new cultures in Europe are no other than Illyrian tribes - as a result Arberor/Albanian.

    • @mr.archivity
      @mr.archivity 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Least Albanian nationalist 🤦🏼‍♂️

  • @besnikillyrian8520
    @besnikillyrian8520 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Miremengjes e alla matina e miredita durante il giorno fine all pomeriggio

  • @b.justiceforall9544
    @b.justiceforall9544 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    If you legally live in Italy and share in what Italy has to offer its citizens then you are Italian.

  • @HaraldToniAliTamingAgolli
    @HaraldToniAliTamingAgolli 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Vi chiamavano gheg se ato tjeret to ken qen tosk

  • @mykindofcooking
    @mykindofcooking 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    👏❤🇦🇱

  • @salvatoredipalma2742
    @salvatoredipalma2742 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Not italians? Ma perchè scrivete ste cose,io abito in un paese arbresh e sono 100% italiani

  • @Nome_utente_generico
    @Nome_utente_generico 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Mai sentito uno dire "non sono italiano ". Saluti

  • @avziademi6375
    @avziademi6375 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    FRATELLI ITALOALBANEZI ARBRESHET E ITALIS.VLLEZERIT TON

  • @HaraldToniAliTamingAgolli
    @HaraldToniAliTamingAgolli 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Not italian not albania arbëresh por i priten iliret dhe trojanet kur zbarkuan

  • @micromacro1939
    @micromacro1939 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Qundi identitariamente si sentono più albanesi che italiani, ma vivono in italia dal 1500, giusto?

    • @TravelDialogues
      @TravelDialogues  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ciao!
      A noi è sembrato di capire che loro si considerino Arbëreshë, e non più albanesi o più italiani. Si tratta di una cultura nata nel territorio dell'antica Arberia e trasferitasi in Italia dove è sopravvissuta per secoli, andando ad unire due grandi culture - quella dell'Arberia e quella dell'Italia.
      Per questo crediamo che gli Arbëreshë si sentano appunto un mix tra le due culture: italiani in quanto vivono in Italia, parlano italiano, e seguono usi e costumi italiani per molte delle loro attività giornaliere, ma anche "albanesi" in quanto mantengono molti degli aspetti culturali (lingua, musica, arte, ecc.) della loro terra d'origine - l'Arberia.
      - Davide

    • @micromacro1939
      @micromacro1939 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TravelDialogues in realtà a mio avviso lo si evince bene quando dice "siamo italiani perchè viviamo in Italia, abbiamo la cittadinanza italiana, tanto di rispetto per l'italia, però siamo ARBËRESHË per identità e cultura, e siamo fratelli degli attuali albanesi, perchè abbiamo la storia e il sangue che ci lega, se presenti un italiano ad un albanese te lo saluta, ma se presenti un arbreshe ad un albanese si toglie dal letto di casa per far dormire un arbereshe"... più chiaro di così, non saprei, credo che queste parole non lascino molto spazio ad interpretazioni. 👋

    • @micromacro1939
      @micromacro1939 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@giulioBonati Esatto, io nonostante sia pugliese non conosco questa comunita nello specifico, ma ho amici "Arbëreshë" calabresi, che prima di tutto si senteno italiani e calabresi nati in famiglia Arbëreshë, infatti sentire questo individuo qua mi ha un pò sorpreso a dir il vero. 👋

    • @ervinxx2545
      @ervinxx2545 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      tu hai parlato con "qualcuno" se vuoi sapere davvero chi sono ce ne una intera literatura dal Variboba, De Rada, Schiro, Gaetano, e etc. O da Coetanei Altimari in Calabria ed Mandala in Sicilia tutte e due professori Arbereshe..

    • @ervinxx2545
      @ervinxx2545 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ed nessuno di voi e un Arberesh o ha un Amico Arbereshe. Siete solo cavalli di tr.ja.. vi sfido online...

  • @EndritBajramiEshte21
    @EndritBajramiEshte21 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    arbereshe aren't italian but albanains living in italy

    • @jawaempire99
      @jawaempire99 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      They are Italian

    • @jawaempire99
      @jawaempire99 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      They have Italian name, Italian citizenship, Italian religion and Italian culture

  • @EndritBajramiEshte21
    @EndritBajramiEshte21 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    they are albanians , thumbnails are wrong

    • @TravelDialogues
      @TravelDialogues  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Thank you for your deep comment and for understanding the point of the video.
      Arbëreshë people came to Italy many centuries ago. As you can see from the video, at this point in history they consider themselves Italians (they live in Italy after all, they speak Italian, and many of their everyday life activities are exactly the same as any other Italian person) and Albanians (they come from an area of the Balkans that included modern day Albania and other regions from other Balkan countries, many of them still speak an older version of the Albanian language, and many of their cultural traditions are still tied to their motherland).
      So yes, it's not fair to just say that they're Italians or Albanians. Their beautiful culture and identity is more complex than that and it's only fair to say that they're Arbëreshë.

    • @Nome_utente_generico
      @Nome_utente_generico 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No, ma grazie mille 😊

    • @ervinxx2545
      @ervinxx2545 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@Nome_utente_generico non rompere.. sono Albanesi

    • @ervinxx2545
      @ervinxx2545 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@TravelDialoguesthey are pure Albanians.. and from Arbëreshe came the must innumerable operas of Albanian renaissance.. i recommend you Gaetano Petrota. Or many Arbereshe Writers.. and Arbereshe means Albanian.. Arber is our Ethnic name, Arbëreshe for Italians. Arvaniti for Greeks, Arnavut for the Turks(who still call us one that way), Arbanski for the Slavs, Arbiniśi for the Romanians and so on.. stop with those stupid videos..

    • @arbanu.comics
      @arbanu.comics หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@ervinxx2545Or Girolamo De Rada, which is very loved in Albania and Kosovo

  • @EndritBajramiEshte21
    @EndritBajramiEshte21 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    arberesh are albanains who left , why bruh is tryna differentiate the same people

  • @Fred-e3z9h
    @Fred-e3z9h 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Arbereshe are Albanian. In the video thumbnail it says neither Italian nor Albanian. Arbereshe escaped from Albania to Italy like cowards from the Ottoman Turks. Arbereshe are pure Albanians but cowards.

    • @canadian6167
      @canadian6167 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      HOW about your grandparents that became turcs?

    • @Fred-e3z9h
      @Fred-e3z9h 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@canadian6167 It's total cowardice, arbereshe escaped to Italy, arvanites to Greece and than others converted to Islam. So overall there was a cowardice amongst the Albanian population. From escape to betraying their faith.

    • @dios1ish868
      @dios1ish868 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Fred-e3z9h Ok clown greco-slavs, stop hating. Arberesh, Arvanites, Albanians were the only race willing to fight and they did, unilke greko-slavs who collaborated from the beginning with the Ottomans, even giving their daughters to the Sultans for wives and became their vassals. Arberesh were not cowards, they fought all the way to the end, even when they went over to Italy, they were fighting the Ottomans there, when they tried to pass over and because of Arberesh, they were stopped. It was thanks to Skanderbeg and to the Arberesh/Albanians that Ottomans didn't take over West as well, why Skanderbeg's monuments and busts are being erected all over Europe.. Also, Arvanites of Greece didn't go there at the time of Ottomans, they were there before time and centuries before and the only ones fighting against the Ottomans. As the Greek author historian tell us in his book about the 'History of Athens'.
      Spiridhon Llambro, in the book: History of the City of Athens!
      'The Albanian leader Petros Bua and the "Greek" lord Manuel Kandakuzinos planned an Albanian state in the Peloponnese! The Albanians of More were the only race skilled in arms and lovers of freedom.'
      'The last chapter of the history of the Peloponnese. In it, the Albanians, the only race of the peninsula, rebelled in 1453 against the despots, because they still had a love for arms and freedom. Thirty thousand of them fought, first under the leadership of Petros Boua, and then under the ambitious "Greek" ruler Manuel Kandakouzinos, so that their heroic countrymen, Georgios Valtsos, Joannis Spata, would have succeeded as in Albania like Arianitis and Skenderbeg the Great, respectively with the creation of an independent Albanian state in the Peloponnese.'
      Also, not all Albanians converted and even those who did, still continued to rebel agains the Ottoman Empire and this is recorded history. In all the fake countries around us, there would be non of them without the Albanians and thanks to Albanians. Stop talking out of your annus and start reading more.

    • @ill-albanoi
      @ill-albanoi 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@canadian6167 never became turks, are you a fucking jew when you choose christianity?

    • @Nome_utente_generico
      @Nome_utente_generico 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No, siamo italiani. Ciao 🙋🏻‍♂️🙋🏻‍♂️