The ancient roots of the Albanian language
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- I'm excited to take you on an intriguing exploration of linguistic history. In this video, I'll delve into the evolution of Indo-European languages and shed light on the ancient and archaic branch of the Albanian language, showcasing its distinctive characteristics and profound connections within the Indo-European language family.
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Shumë falemenderit per kto punime. Po na frymëzojnë. Le ta die bota qfar kontribute te rrendsishem kan bo stregjshët tonë se ka t'boje jo veq me ne po me krejt njerzimin. Me shkenc, teknologji, akademi dhe art e verteta del ne dritë ndal kadale. Nji kafe a ke prej meje. ☕
"The true History of the humanity will be written only when it will be written with the participation of Albanians". - Maximilian Lambertz
Të falem nderit për kontributin tuaj dhe më gëzon që të pëlqeu videoja! Të përshëndes përzemërsisht!
Albania and all Albanians I love you in deep respect and always will.From a British friend in London.
God save the king and his people 🇬🇧 Thank you verry much for your great support.
Zoti e ruajt mbretin dhe popullin e tij. Faleminderit shumë për mbështetjen tuaj të madhe.
🇦🇱❤️🇬🇧
Thank you mate
Google Skanderbeg
Thank You , We love you too
❤❤❤🇦🇱🤝 respect from an albanian in Montenegro
Whereabouts? My parents are from there also. Near Rumija mountain.
@@australiaprisonisland9156 Hoti i kujit near plav gusinje.
@@IllyricvmPhilosophy Ok. You must be in the US. Are you an EV13 carrier like us?
@@australiaprisonisland9156 no, I take dna test and got J2b-l283 haplogroup.
@@australiaprisonisland9156 on 23andme i got two (highly likely) sections, plav, Montenegro and then Peloponnese, Greece.
As a historian i have to tell you that you do the same mistake that some slavs (Serbians and Vardarskans) do.
You try to etymologise Greek words that Albanians, Slavs and rest of the world adopted from Greeks and Homer used.
And i ask them the same question:
"Why you etymologise only 1 or 2 hundreds Greek words that Homer used and albanians adopted and not the total of 8-9 thousands Greek words that Homer used"?
But if Slavs and Albanians took these words from Homer why is it that today only Albanians use words such as anger, water, earth, star, mountain, etc. from 13:02 but somehow Southern Slavs and Modern Greeks do not use these words. This would mean there is continuity from Homer to Albanian, but not from Homer to Modern Greek or Southern Slavic.
@@universalconquest4447That list at 13:02 is very dubious: Ήλιος has always meant sun, and not star, for example!
In greek you can not translate anything so that means Albanian is closer to Homer language
@@Henrik_channel Complete nonsense. Good luck trying to understand Ilias and Odyssée if You know only Albanian.
@@Henrik_channel
Let's be specific.
For example etymologise this original Homer's text , word by word:
Homer's Iliad,
Rhapsody M,
Line 243:
"Είς οιωνός άριστος, αμύνεσθαι περί πάτρης"
(Hector's saying:
Eis oionos aristos amynesthai peri patris= the best sign is to fight for your country)
When i give specific original quotes to my slav compatriots who claim also Homer they sh@t up
If you cant etymologise all Homer's phrases but you Cherrypick selectively a couple of words, is because you adopted thousands Greek words like every people did
I wish I had the means to send more but I love everything you do, keep em comin vlla
WAW Jeton.. shumë faleminderit për 50:shen! Rrofsh vlla!! ☝️🇦🇱
@@ChildrenOfTheEagle ti veq vazhdo shqipe mos u ndal !
Amazing video! Our language needs far more attention, one of the oldest languages to still exist today! Proud!
True, after so many years, were people laughed at us, when we told them our language is very old, science should put more work in it and show the public the truth
True👏🏼 , so proud that I can speak Albanian!
@@ozymandiasultor9480 you sound ignorant lol
@@ozymandiasultor9480salty 🧂
🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂
I don’t want us Albanians to be the best or better than anyone else but I am glad that money is spent to help us find our true position in human history even though they tried to wipe us out we managed to save our language which perpetuates who we are.
Wow , I have great respect for all 🇦🇱 Albanians..
Relax you are not alone another 161 indoeuropean languages managed to do the same check the video links for details.
@@georgegiallousis4400 lol definitely not.
@@georgegiallousis4400 So if they find Greek writing or Latin writing in Albania means they never used writing,I don’t think so but I think because they were part of the Roman Empire they used what everyone was using and it would have been limited to the nobles or priests.Don’t forget that the winners or occupiers wrote their own history and wiped out anyone else’s.
@@NS-mz8gqkeep dreaming poor alba
Questo video è orgoglio degli albanesi. La verità viene sempre a galla. 👌🇦🇱👋🇮🇹
Grazie ❤
Qfar lidhje ka aj flamur Italiane me Shqiptaret se nuk kuptoj? Je bythlupise a qka? Po kush leshin Jan ata pica koqet qe behesh si zagar ndaj tyre
Respect for you 🤝🇮🇹
hi deborah, do you know meaning of Deborah?
@@sokolasllani5006 io arbereshe.🦅🇦🇱🦅❤👋🇮🇹
Very interesting and well presented. Thank you!
Norbert JOKL :"" The Albanian lanGUAge serves as a fiber that keeps the trunk alive and connetct this branches with roots. As you descent along this fiber to the wonders of history, strands can be affectedt. The Albanian language is a tool through which the seeker can illuminate the dawn of Albanian people's beginnings and immerse themselves in time that goes beyong the historical evidence "". NEPHILIM / NE FILLIM = THE BEGINNINGS
All albanians are proud of how old and unique our language is 🇦🇱
and a suggestion for a vid : Albania during Balkan wars
😂😂😂😂😂🤣
Right but in theory only
@@Malomorgen37wdym
@@geogeo2299what’s funny
A fantastic video about albanian language. The truth can't be hiden anymore. Go Albanins, save the country & save the most beautiful ALBANIAN LANGUAGE.
Thank you so much for appreciating the video! 🙏
@@ChildrenOfTheEagle 😂😁😁😂🤣🤣🤣🤣😆
@@geogeo2299what’s funny
@@Gamesbozz That Albanian language is "most beautiful". That's about as funny as it gets.
WOW Amazing‼️ The veil is slowly lifting.
The genetic make-up of Albanians are indeed native to the Balkans for at least 6,000 years!
Great and informative video 🔥
Thank you for the video fully. Also, thanks for the end! ❤
Another amazing video, keep up the good work.
Bravo, thanks for another amazing video 🙏🏻
Respekt from Sweden 🇸🇪🫶🏼
Tack !Hoppa du gillade videon.
So proud to come from that blessed Land ❤
I am truly grateful that information is finding its way out. For so long, albanians have been excluded from history. We searched for so long, what are we, where do we come from? I even had a DNA test done, Only to find out that we truly are from these lands, we belong. May we continue to uncover. Truly incredible
Spot on brother, great content Shqipe. Keep it up brother.
Shumë bukur, vetëm kujdes me ato harta pa Kosovën brënda!
#Dardani
Aty ku flitet për Geg dhe Toskë, ju mund të gjeni Dardaninë Ilire. ( Emri Kosove, nji emër i krijuar Serb) që në fakt emri i vërtetë i saj është Dardania Ilire, pra Shqipëria e pa coptar. Nuk kishte Serbi, kur kishte Dardani-Illiri dhe Pellazgi. Kjo video flet për afro 6000 vjet para Krishtit dhe besoj që Dardania është epiqendra e Shqiptarisë të sotme. Armiqt tanë Serb, e rrënuan Shqiptarizmin në Veri por Zoti i Math, na ndihmoi të ruajm gjuhën dhe etnogjenezn tonë ILIRE. Faleminderit.
Eshte shume e frikshme te heqesh kosove se gjithe veriu i shqipris ka zbritur nga kosova gjate konvertimit , pyetni mirditoret nga kan ardh te gjithe nga Kosova.
As an Englishman i have the upmost respect for the Albanian people, the true first Europeans or even civilisation with an ancient language. Not to mention that they are the descendants of Illyrians. In my view all Albanians should be treated like the Kings and Queens that they are.
Mos e tepro moj vlla😂
they are not illyrians learn history for once
@@acketech69No they are not Illyrians, but their descendants…at least a significant portion of them for a simple reason - Proper Illyrians (as Romans called them). lived in what is now Albania (with their capital being Shkodra), and closely related to Dardanians (modern Kosovo)….
Albanian language os made up of Proto-Albanian words (directly related to Proto-Indo-European) and some Pre-Indo-European words, while the vast majority of. Albanian vocabulary is made up of ancient Latin (at least some 60%) and ancient doric Greek. That in itself tells you that Albanians were there in the Balkans because where else could their language been so drastically latinaized and greecesized if not in the Balkans… and remeber, Illyrians were still around in the time of Romans and well after the fall of Roman empire….The only language the Illyrians of that time could speak could have been only the Latin…What the Illyrian soike before the Roman time is hard to say, but logically it could have been a dialect of Proto-Indio- European…or a combination of Pre and Proto-Indo-European….
@@acketech69 DNA says that they are,related to the Greeks and south Italians so logic should tell you that they are.Albanian language is unique which means they have always been there maybe longer than some others,but don’t worry money has been spent to look for archaeological sites and DNA studies will be done and there won’t be need to listen to foreign sources that are biased and continue with rhetoric.
@@NS-mz8gq bro albanian language is mixed of turkish, you are funny, but albania have 0 history, they have nothing with ilyrians
This is mythilogia,you , show something script in ancient albania from that time, you have nothing
You are right
They don't even have an alphabet. They use the latin one
@@issavisisland9870and doesn’t most of Europe ?
So historical findings and professional linguists are myths ? lol
Since everyone is sending love. Love frome Australia to Albania too ❤
Bravo Shqipe. Beautiful video 🇦🇱
Danke! Vazhdo me punën që ke nisur. Së bashku jemi një!
Filen Danke! Shumë faleminderit për donacionin! Rrofsh sa malet! ☝️🇦🇱
@@ChildrenOfTheEagleWhat do you mean by that finger exactly?
If you know how to count but maybe you don’t, you could guess that it’s the number one that the hand symbolises…
Thank you for sharing this information to the world.
@ChildrenOfTheEagle
My friend, Let's be specific.
For example etymologise this original Homer's text word by word:
Homer's Iliad,
Rhapsody M,
Line 243:
"Είς οιωνός άριστος, αμύνεσθαι περί πάτρης"
(Hector's saying:
Eis oionos aristos amynesthai peri patris= the best sign is to fight for your country)
When i give specific original quotes to my slav compatriots who claim also Homer they sh@t up
If you cant etymologise all Homer's phrases but you Cherrypick selectively a couple of words, is because you adopted thousands Greek words like every people did
My ancestors came from Albania
Pershendetje meso shqip nese nuk di te kuptosh sekretin qe gjuha shqipe fshe ne fjalet e saja
Good job on putting this together . Very educational
great video ! Keep them coming vlla
Love from korca🇦🇱👑
Lamartine: "Albanians, this nation and this people can not be mocked ... This is the land of heroes of all time ... Homer found there Achilles, the Greeks the Alexander the Great, Turks found Skanderbeg, people these of the same race, the same blood" .
Maurico Druon, secretary of the French Academy: "Albanians belonging to those people older than History itself. Albanian grandparents participated in the war of Troy, led by Achilles (on one side) and Hector (the other side) ".
Nicolas Iorga: "The Albanian people together and the Basques one are the oldest in Europe."
Maximilian Lambertz: "The true History of the humanity will be written only when it will be written with the participation of Albanians".
Huacunthe Hecquard: "In no country in the world women are not more respected and does not exercise a powerful activity than Albanian women, some Albanian mothers ousted from home their children because left the war front. They had returned them to the battlefield".
Lord Byron: "Albanians with their costumes make a most wonderful scenery in the world ... Albanians are the most beautiful human race exists, courageous, stronger than their strongholds."
Henry Noel Brailsford: "... The 'primitive' Albanian, in fact is the superhuman," of which Nietzsche dreamed."
Giuseppe Katapano: "Atlantida which disappeared 12,000 years ago, was the land of the Illyrians (Pelasgians), who escaped the flood of Atlantis and began new civilizations on all continents, especially in Europe, Africa and Small Asia small".
Agostino Ribeco: "The millennial Albanians Rights, ethnographic and geographic range from old times in Illyria, Macedonia and Thessaly."
Branislav Nušić: "Albanians are indigenous, who during all invasions of peoples kept its type and character significantly. They faced attacks by Romans, dense Slavs raids, who invadet them all fields, plains, and rivers ".
H. Dusko Konstantinov: "Albanians are the oldest inhabitants of the Balkan Peninsula and direct descendants of the Illyrians, who had built the most powerful state in the Balkans."
Edvin Jacques: "The Illyrians or Albanians, these stalwart warriors were Albanians, heirs of Achilles, Philip, Alexander the Great and the Piros of Epirus ...".
Edvin Pears: "Albanians are descendants of the oldest race of the Balkan Peninsula, namely the Aryan race, to draw this word from two Albanian roots of words: Gold and side, which i.e. people of pure gold."
Max Myle: "The names of of most familiar people derived from the old Albanian word 'Ar'. This also applies to many other countries of the world."
Fanulla Papazogllu: "Dardania is one of the ancient Balkan provinces where the indigenous population is the best preserved."
Jen Goss: "The origin of the Albanians to the time of Pelazgs and have pre-helen origin."
Gustav Meier: "Albanians are young Illyrians".
George Hahn: "Albanians are descendants of Illyrians, but the descendants of the Illyrians were Pelasgians ... Albanians are grandchildren of Pelasgians".
Haki Pasha: "If the Albanian history emerges, the Ottoman Empire will go to the river".
Harold Whitehal: "Egyptian hieroglyphics, created 4,000 years ago have Albanian significance".
Henri Braisford: "In Macedonia, Albanians are the only indigenous people."
Johan von Han: "The Albanian derives from Illyrian and the Illyrian from Pellasgian one".
Jovan Cvijiq: "South Slavs, after arrived in the Balkans, found there the Albanians, who under their pressure (Slavs) retreated southward and to most mountainous areass, where we face today."
Konstantin Paparigopulos: "Only the Albanians are considered descendants of the Illyrian race
Keep dreaming Albo 😂
@@southface6684😂
@@southface6684yes we are alboilirian,and what are you,and its true.
@@southface6684he literally just quoted writers? so Idk why the keep dreaming thing lol
They discover that erth is flat,like a plate,i recommend to stop using drugs,the best dealers of drugs around europe,check the video from 1991 , thousands of Albanian hunging in a ship like grapes to escaping in Italy,this is there heritage
Love for Albania and all Albanians 🇳🇱❤️🇦🇱 History as it is now needs to be revised and corrected. I've been redding that Alexander the Great is Albanian legacy as Albanians were partially called Macedonian up untill the late Medival times; next to Arberia, Dardania en Epiria. This is incredible. These facts need to be displayed
Monedha e SHQIPERISE quhet LEK per nder te ALEKSANDRIT qe shqipetaret shkurt e quanin LEKA I madh.
Very nice video !
Good video
Thank you for your work!
It would br cool when u can make a subtitles in albanian for people like my parents who don't understand English
I.have prepared subtitles in Albania, just press settings and choose language. 😉
Po vella ka titra shqip.. thjesht shtype cilësinë dhe zgjidh nga 9 gjuhët qe i kam përgatitur.
Wow, it's amazing how diverse and rich the Albanian language is! It has such a fascinating history and beautiful expressions. 🌟🇦🇱
A lot of experts lately are saying that the language is 7,000 years old , making it the oldest language in Europe!
I believe that.
Good job, keep it going 👍🏼
The Heggarty paper cited in this video is considered to be wrong by most linguists. This video is ethnonationalist propaganda based on fringe science. Also, it doesn't make any sense to say a language is "the oldest" or "thousands of years old", because every language in the world is basically equally old. Every language is the result of transmission from one generation to the next as "the same language", but within a few generations or a few centuries languages change into new languages depending on many factors. Whether it's 7000 years or 5000 or 4000 or whatever, that number doesn't represent how old Albanian is. It represents when an ancestor language of Albanian split from a common ancestor. Latin was spoken over 2000 years ago, but that doesn't make Spanish 2000 years old. And whenever the precursors to Albanian split from the rest of IE, that doesn't show when Albanian split from all the intervening languages, like stages of Illyrian or whatever. Identifying some ancestor of Albanian from 7000 years ago doesn't make it "older" than any other language in Europe or anywhere else in the world, because all the other IE languages following that split would also trace back to that same split 7000 years ago. In other words, German, English, Russian are also 7000 years old in the same sense. But please forget this random nonsense number "7000", because that is simply the claim of one recent scientific publication that is not accepted by other linguists. It is very likely to be wrong. To understand this better, let's say hypothetically that human language started 100,000 years ago and all existing languages trace back to one or more languages from that time. We really do NOT know when it started, so this is just hypothetical. That means that Albanian is 100,000 years old according to your thinking. But it also means that every other language in the world is 100,000 years old. Yes, Albanian is a great and unique language and culture, just like every other language and culture in the world, but you don't need pseudoscientific ethnonationalist propaganda to prove that. Yes, Albanian, Hellenic, Armenian and Tocharian are special because they are on branches of IE that separated before the major expansion of IE in the Corded Ware era. Any scientist will agree with that basic fact. You don't need idiotic pseudoscientific claims about "oldest" blah blah blah to be proud of your language and culture for any reason you choose to.
@@MikeInliters My brother you sound kinda jealous to me and it’s okay I understand.
Everyone been jealous with our history, national heroes and divine language.😊
I appreciate your perspective, but I believe it's important to explore and appreciate the historical roots of languages, including Albanian. While it may be debated, the claim of Albanian being over 7000 years old offers insight into its rich linguistic heritage.
Let's celebrate the diversity of languages and cultures without diminishing their significance. 🌍🇦🇱🎉💗
@EthnicAlbania2030 well spoken!
@@MikeInlitersyou belong to the darkness ! 😂
@@MikeInlitersI dont think I would undermine the video with an ultranationalist label! I dont see such tendency. While you are right about numbers, we know that as you mentioned Albanian split from the greek-armenian branch befote they did, making it and older spoken separate tongue btw the three!
Cool!
"It is virtually impossible to see through the various strata in the Albanian language to discover any particular ancient ethnic origin."
"As an ethnic group, the Albanians first emerged from the mists of history in the early years of the second millennium A.D."
Robert Elsie, Keeping an Eye on the Albanians: Selected Writings in the Field of Albanian Studies, 2015, p. 11-40.
Proud to be Albanian.
Bravo 🤝👏
Keep on going shqipe👍🏼🇦🇱
If the Albanians had so resilient language, why they did not proceed to make a strong state, or at least some institutions;
Why did they insist only to speak and no to write their so- called, ancient language until the first decade of 20th century;
It makes me laugh to realise how false this search was, because although it says that albanian and not illyric language is more ancient than greek, there is nowhere a report for a scripture which proves this state.
How can there be evidence when the Albanian language and grammar was created at the end of the 19th century?
lol keep your slavic-orthodox in servia..
@@naserivic4018it wasn’t created in the 19th century nor 20th century. We didn’t write or the scriptures has been destroyed in an attempt to erase us. Both of you claim it was created recently but even my Albanian Tribe has a letter from 1689 to the vaticans which is one of the earliest Albanian written scriptures found until today
And it’s funny how there aren’t any Illyrian scriptures found and no Albanian scriptures found from that time, it doesn’t mean the Albanian language was created, rather others tried to destroy us
Mate the firdt Albanian writing is from much much before the 20th century 😂😂😂
Good video my shqipe
Proud to be Albanian 🇦🇱🇽🇰🧬🦅
Respect for your channel. Respect from Albanian land of eagle 🦅🦅🇦🇱🦅🦅
Long life Arberia 🇦🇱❤
I ❤ my albanian language.
Holger PEDERSEN :"" The Albanian lanGUAge is the only tool for enlightenment and moral progress "" or ÇELSI ( CHELSEA Symbol) = KEY
Very interesting glad to hear this story of history
Respect for the documentary.
in the Illyrian peninsula, not only people, but also stones and trees spoke Albanian.👍🇦🇱🇽🇰
The ludicrous chart at 12'40' contrasting the Greek words with the Albanian diction and the Homeric one is hilariously misleading through either ignorance or wishful cherry-picking. The Greek word “nero”, for instance, actually stems from the ancietnt Greek adjective “νεαρόν» (nearon) meaning fresh, as in νεαρόν ύδωρ ( nearon hydor) = fresh water. Νεμέας (Nemeas) does not mean "curse" in Homeric Greek, but it refers to the area of Nemea in the Peloponesse, steming from the ancient and modern Greek root νέμειν=nemein, which means to distribute, to seperate, to share out. It is still used in Greek in many derivatives like διανέμω, οικονομία (the fair distribution/order of the home), Νεμεσις, απονέμω, etc... Γορός does not mean knee, but is an adjective meaning "bent". The Homeric woed for knee is "γόνυ", modern greek γόνατον, with the particle γο- refering to anything that bends or makes a sharp turn as in γωνία (gonia) = corner, angle.
Either maliciously or ignorantly you pose the greek word thymos (anger) against the Ηomeric word "Mηνίω", without mentioning the modern/ancient word μένος/menos, which also means "anger"and the derivative of "μηνύω", used to this day by Greeks to mean to "charge someone with a crime". Even the accents are wrong in your text.
Other words in the chart are also falsely represented to accommodate the wishful thinking of their authors. "Vrotos", for instance, is not a verb, but an adjective meaning "mortal, perishable, like in modern Greek "trotos" τρωτός. The listed word "γριά" is the modern Greek rendering of Homeric "γραία" and it does not mean "married woman" but "old woman". "Gynaika" means "woman" from the declention of the ancient Greek "gynee" γυνή.. In Homeric Greek the word would have been "γυνή γαμήτις", or simply "γυνή". "Βοή" is wrongly rendered as "thrino" (to mourn), whereas to this day, as in Homeric times, it meant "any loud cry or continual noise sound" as in modern Greek "βουητό" (prolonged noise) and βους = cow (due to its moaning sound), and it has survived in the compound of modern Greek as "βοήθεια" = to cry out to the divine (θείον) for assistance. You see, the derivatives of these Homeric roots function only in Greek, not in Albanian, the latter probably having borrowed and mispronounced many Greek words, as less developed neighbors often do...
At the end of the day, it does not matter which language is the “oldest”, but which language has had the greatest impact on the world through its compilation of ideas and etymology.
And this language is incontestably found in the Hellenic branch, whose script is the oldest of all European languages..
Besides, speaking of "script"..., there are no written records of Albanian before the 13th century of our common era.
Any similarities between Homeric Greek and Albanian may very well be attributed to the cultural-linguistic influence of the more advanced Greeks on their more primitive northern neighbours, or even a common Indo-European root, the latter of which theory is just that: theoretical...
Tell your quasi-paralinguists to stop feeding their delusions with ill-founded nationalistic wishful thinking, claiming that Achilles is a Pelasgian who spoke Albanian as the ahistorical Slavs to the north of Macedonia claim Alexander to be theirs.
I just love it when articulated people like you use fancy word to disclaime that Albanian language doesn't have a written record before the 13th century, yet fancy studies like the one mentioned in the video - not to mentioned the Harvard language study, smashes meager attempt like your's. Given you consider Albanien language as being primitiv and Greek language as more advanced, it's pretty safe to conclude that you're not that fond of Albanian history and that's ok. I don't mind!
As for the Homeric words I provided - and 2,000 other words I haven't - is pretty remarkable that 2,700-ish years later theses words are still used by Albanians.
Aaha yeah.. Achilles. Did you know that Greeks, not sure if Homer did, used to call him Aspetos? In Albanien Gheg 'A i shpejt' or 'I shpejt o' means - He is fast. In the Iliad he's mentioned numerous times as being fast and unkillable, hence the nickname 'the fast one' or 'swift-footed''. The same goes for the word Achilles.. In Albanien Gheg, 'Ach i let o' , means 'He is so light'. Just for the fun of it, what does Aspetos mean in Greek?
@@ChildrenOfTheEagle I truly thank you from the bottom of my heart for exposing your ignorance and your "selective" etymology of Greek words. Unfortunately for you, apart from us Greeks, there are reputed, world-renowned linguists who have compiled dictionaries of ancient and modern Greek. Here is the dictionary entrance for "aspetos" in Liddel & Scott dictionary and in every ancient Greek dictionary throughout the world that reveals your ignorance: ἄσπετος: -ον (εἰπεῖν), from the negational Greek particle "α-" and ειπείν (to say/tell), meaning ανείπωτος (that which cannot be expressed in words, unspeakable), ανέκφραστος (undescribable), απερίγραπτα μεγάλος (indescribably great), σε Όμηρ.· ουδ. ως επίρρ., ἀνείπωτα, σε Ομήρ. Ιλ. It is a derivative of the irregular greek verb "λέγω" (to say), and is used to this very day in Greek in forms like "είπα" (I said), "τι είπες;" (what did you say?).
In short, the word "aspetos" (unspeakable) has nothing to do with one who runs fast, which is "ωκύπους" in the Iliad, from ωκύς=fast and πους/πόδι=foot, i.e. "fast-footed Achilles".
Mr "Children of the Eagle", I happen to be a linguist who has studied both in Grece and abroad, and can provide you with any information regarding the Greek language and the non-existence of any Albanian substantial script before the 13th or even the 15th century.
I can also assure you that without Greek words in your language, you would not be able to communicate in the modern world. The very word "history", that you so like to use, is a derivative of the Greek irregular verb "οίδα", which means "to know": αρχ. ἱστορία < ἵστωρ < εἰδέναι του οἶδα "γνωρίζω". And yes, I am very fond of history. That is why I can reveal your ignorance.
You may collect as many cudos as you wish from your equally ignorant followers, but there will always be facts and educated people to descredit all your nonsense.
You have been exposed!
(PS. Please provide us with any literature or writing in Albanian prior to the 15th century...)
@@ChildrenOfTheEagle My friend, as a Greek myself with family from Asia Minor, Athens and Cyprus, I support the Albanian people and all efforts to preserve and discover your history as I know how important it is. My Cypriot family lost their homes from the Turkish invasion and were made refugees, their graves and towns desecrated and "removed" from history, so I can empathise with the Albanian people.
However, what I will say is please do not try to raise one thing up by trying to diminish another thing, as you are hinting at with the age and "importance" of the Albanian language compared to Greek. There are some mistakes in your video about certain words as well as logical fallacies regarding the omission of certain ancient Greek words in modern Greek.
There is much to be proud about that does not require comparison or competition using other languages and cultures to measure the greatness of your own.
Please keep this in mind with all due respect. 🇦🇱🇨🇾🇬🇷🇦🇲
@@ChildrenOfTheEagle
My friend
It's ridiculous to etymologise 100 Greek words of Homer but not the total of 8-9 thousands Greek words that Homer used.
It is known that not only Albanian and Slavs but all the world adopted thousands of Greek words.
I'm a historian ikr 👍
@hrvatskiapoksiomen9 Given that the complete Homeric lexical dictionary, which consisted of around 8844 word in total, whereas roughly 7000 of these word were actively used, I'm baffled where you get 20-30 thousands of Homeric words from?
Te lumte SHQIPE. Zoti te Bekofte
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WAW!! First dono from @2fast! Amazing bro.. thank you so much for your contribution! I really hope you enjoyed the video.
The Etruscans, the Ligurians, the Liburnians, the Mesapets, the Latins, the Umbrians, the Volces, the Oscans,the Calabrians, all of these are Illyrian tribes and spoke the Albanian language, which gave birth to the Latin alphabet, the Republic of Rome, the Roman Senate, and the Roman Empire, when they occupied the Illyrian lands in Dardania, they realized that they were speaking the same language, and Dardania got its name old Dardanian Kingdom.
the mandate of the Roman Senate was that all Roman emperors should be from Alba Longa, and so it was until Justinian Dardanus in the 5th century. We have this Amanet-Testament even today, wherever we are Albanians, we go and marry an Albanian girl in our homeland, in Kosovo or in ALBANIA.
This is why Roman Emperor Hadrian was born in Spain, but when it was time to marry, he returned to Alba Longa and married Viba Sabina.
and please don't forget that the Latin tribe was born from the son of Odysseus that he had the name Latin, which came after the Trojan War.
Thanks!
Thank you so much for your appreciation and your generous donation! 🫡
I have noticed that far too many hateful comment have accused this video for being propaganda and this have to stop. So from now on I will ban all account that use sama hateful comment from the channel! ✌️
You have not to worried "ChildrenOfTheEagle", GRAQIRET(I mean greec people) have more than 200years of manipulation about the historie. Albania & Albanians have been survived. Illyrian pennisula will be back very soon. Is our duty to not except anymore so called Balkan. Renamed ILLYRIAN pennisula bring back real historie of our land. God bless our land & beautiful Albanian language.
Ashtu eshte,respekte pa fund
@@ozymandiasultor9480Criticism is one thing, but being a hateful racist and claiming the video of propagating something that a German institution have researched about is blatently ignorant. If you have any problems with the truth then write your complain to Max Planck Institut.
@@ozymandiasultor9480 you are too smart man. Only my littel dog is at your level of historie knowledges. I can't argue with you. Just wish you having more dreams.
@@ozymandiasultor9480 I feel sorry for you little man, you got alot of hate in your heart and alot of propaganda in your head.
😮I didn't know how good we are 😊 respekt from the bottom of my heart too all Albanians were ever they are from Perth Australia
Baron Nopcsa Ferenc was aspirant for the thron of Albania, he was from Hungary. Norbert Jokl was from Vienna, a great albanologist. Very important parallels.
It would be interesting to catalogise the incoming words in different times from different languages. The industry-words such Stecker, Thermocentrale, and the words of the culture, and the different segments of the life. Best greetings from Vienna for these very informative compound.
Hi, i will use this for a school project If it is okey ? Nice work 👍
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Thank you for the interesting video! I have a house in Pogradec.
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From what I have been reading too; the Albanian language is closest with the Messapic language which are both related to the Illyrian language, and from this video it seems Proto-Illyrian would have developed before Proto-Greek, and Proto-Thracian which makes sense since the Albanian language splits off 500 years before Greek did from Indo-European.
Very good video! Shame on the albanian speaking parents not teaching it their children
Ive been thinking the same thing but its a sweeter fruit when you figure it out on your own.
Why are you here propagating such a message in a language other than Albanian? Either way I agree 👍
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Hey bro.. je i plaves e gucise? I’m from grude.
Respect from Detroit Michigan
So that the non-albanian speakers can understand @@australiaprisonisland9156
@@Helmuesi911 yeah i was born in plav, how did you figure that?
Zeus said that out of all his sons, Dardanus was his most beloved, and he would never let his people be lost from this Earth. We are living proof of that prophecy, still speaking our ancient language, still protecting our way of life. We have outlived many empires, and we will outlive many more!
"Se Zoti vetë e tha me gojë
Që kombe shuhen përmbi dhe,
Por Shqipëria do të rrojë;
Për të, për të luftojmë ne!'
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Very proud that the facts are coming up. Most of our history was destroyed and burnt down, to erase the truth. History should not be destroyed, instead, it should be protected.
It's a fact that our language is older than the Greek, but this should not hurt anybody's feelings. It is what it is. Past is past, present is present.
Thank you Sir, for your precise work, as always!
Peace!
I am Albanian and I don’t aggre , we don’t have any envident that our language is older than greek, Greeks are the oldest in Balkans
E verteta del dikur…
Me mire vone se kurre…
Nuk ka asgje per tu mburrur Ose per Te ardhur turp nga asnje anë.
Historine e shkruajne fitimtaret dhe zhdukin çdo prove te historise te kombit.
Mos harro qe me shume mund u morë pavaresia dhe shume here u mundua te te rimeren territore nga fqinjet.
Çdo zbulim arkeologjik u vodh u quajt I zbuluar diku tjeter etj.
Vazhdo dhe beso cfare te duash.Keshilla ime eshte dysho gjithshka sepse çdo gje qe na kane mesuar deri sot eshte e mbushur plote me genjeshtra.Kjo vlen per gjithe boten jo vetem per Shqiperine.
Tu-ngjat-jeta.
@dom8929 There has been a study lately, which uses carbon methods to trace back and find out for how long has been a certain language spoken.
www.google.com/search?q=the+latest+study+in+sience.org+determines+how+old+are+languages&client=ms-android-samsung-gn-rev1&sca_esv=570352775&sxsrf=AM9HkKkIi9MFAW9htHzwO80iDjL7w0S2DA%3A1696360195631&ei=A2ccZe6KJrjZ7_UPoJWPkAE&oq=the+latest+study+in+sience.org+determines+how+old+are+languages&gs_lp=EhNtb2JpbGUtZ3dzLXdpei1zZXJwIj90aGUgbGF0ZXN0IHN0dWR5IGluIHNpZW5jZS5vcmcgZGV0ZXJtaW5lcyBob3cgb2xkIGFyZSBsYW5ndWFnZXNIujlQpxtY7DZwAXgBkAEAmAHiAqAByhSqAQcwLjkuNC4xuAEDyAEA-AEBwgIKEAAYRxjWBBiwA8ICBxAjGLACGCfCAgUQABiiBMICBBAhGAriAwQYACBBiAYBkAYI&sclient=mobile-gws-wiz-serp#imgrc=EI6mqdluRdArmM&imgdii=wjEfGA8a_vQtxM
I am not claiming that the Albanian language is the oldest language 😁, I am just saying that it is one of the oldest, and people need to know this fact.
Also, in the Lin village of Pogradec, it has been found a Palafite, which is at least 2000 years older than what was the oldest known Palafite in the world, located in Switzerland 🇨🇭. The research team who made the study was Swiss crew from a well-known university. This Palafite in Albania dates back 6000 years before Christ.
@@dom8929 No,they arive from north Black Sea.
Albania is an autochthonous people that has been fighting for its freedom and independence for centuries against enemies and oppressors of all kinds: the Albanians: Through all the struggles and all the historical upheavals, this people has retained its originality; Neither the migration of peoples nor the battles with Serbs, Turks and other conquerors and oppressors were able to prevent the Albanians from maintaining their uniqueness pure and unadulterated in race and language, in customs and manners.
Historian - Hanslörg Frommer
Today only the Albanians, with their independent language, see themselves as descendants of the Illyrians.
Historian -Theodor Mommsen
was a German historian and is considered one of the most important antiquarians of the 19th century. The only Nobel Prize winner for literature. The brave ones from Eperius are the Albanians from antiquity, loyal, courageous traditional people whose flag has always been their eagle.
Karl Kaser - historian
Sees today's Albanians as the descendants of the remaining non-Omanized Illyrian population. To support his view, he cites results from Albanian archeology and linguistics
Johann Georg von Hahn
Josef ritter von xylander historian
These two represent the thesis of the autochthonous nature of today's Albanians, which is linked to the Pelasgian question.
The Albanians have a language completely different from that of the Latins, Greeks and Slavs, so they cannot communicate in any way with other peoples".
Historian - Jakob Philipp Fallmerayer
There is a people on the Illyrian Peninsula whose language, in its structure and core, bears not the slightest resemblance to either Greek, Turkish or the Slavic dialects spoken today in most of the South Danube countries.
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(Arber) Is Of Norman Origin
(Arberit) Is Of Norman Origin
(Ngirterre) Is Of Norman Origin[Girter]
(Skarpar) Is Of Norman Origin .
(Kleu) is Of Norman Origin
(Sindak) Is Of Norman Origin (Sin dak).
(Kam) is of Norman Origin (Kriet) is Of Norman Origin.
(Radhju) is Of Norman Origin .
(Shum) Is Of Norman Origin.
(Kanoj) is Of Norman Origin.
(Alampu) Is Of Norman Origin.
(Buhet) Is Of Norman Origin.
(Here) Is Of Norman Origin.
(Shkome) Is Of Norman Origin [Skome] .
(Atentu) Is Of Norman Origin.
(Skogha) Is Of Norman Origin.
(Jarrejem) Is Of Norman Origin.
(Qanet) Is Of Norman Origin [Ganet] .
(Gjithe) Is Of Norman Origin
(Krijuesi) is Of Norman Origin
(Cikughat) Is Of Norman Origin [cikugrat]
Very good video
Kosova-dardania is the heart of albania.
@@ozymandiasultor9480 you mean little Russia?
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I'M PROUD OF SPEAKING THE OLDEST LANGUAGE IN THE WORLD!
PROUD TO BE ALBANIAN!!❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
I never thought i would see such an impressive semi documentary. It was well produced and it was objective and fact based, not from the Albanian academy (which have sold their souls to those who don't want the these documentaries to come out) but from foreign studies which makes even more credible.
I have been rooting for the Fertile Crescent mainly because of archeology, DNA and folklore. For example we know based on genetics and linguistic studies Albanian is an early language, based on archeology we also know people have lived in that region for millennia so that leaves the folklore to fill in the gaps. Well according to the ancient epic songs carried over from generation to generation as oral history especially amongst the highlanders we know Albanians were told by their ancestors that they came to those lands via the Black Sea before Black Sea existed. Based on geology we know that Black Sea was created about 8000 years ago and that's just too early for Yamnaya.
Going in to this project in notised how much politicalized this topic really is. Right of the bat the internet is filled with Proto-Indo-European language and Yamnaya theory, which by the way considers the Albanian language as non-existent and claiming that the Albanian language settled in the Balkans in the 12th century AD. It's this particular camp that pushes their political agenda to undermin and demonize the Albanian heritage.
Wich song ore folk says that?
Speaking of folklore. I was watching a documentary about Dibra region and the guide who was very knowledgeable about the region's history was saying-'sometimes history is much better preserved through folklore as it goes from one generation to another, than the writings, which can be lost due to many reasons' or even manipulated as we've seen sometimes. And, Albanians are known to sing songs, either in their northern ballads or southern polyphony about every event that they've had, which is still being practiced to this day.
Interesting to know that when Alexander The Great went to Asia, the people there told him that he just came back where his ancestors were already….
@sokoli3253 It is actually quite interesting why Alexander chose to conquer Asia and not Europe. Some historians say that the land he conquered once belonged to ancient Albanians. If so then it's no surprising why.
i love this
Greetings from Dardania (Kosova) 🇦🇱🇦🇱🇦🇱
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@@diktrejsi8214 at least i am not a Serv
@@ilirianbardhi7901 ohh , you mean like a Serb who is MVP of NBA league, or like Serb who is MVP of Euro league, or like a Serb who is NO1 tennis player in the world, or like Serbs who are Olympics, World and European champion in water polo, or like Serbs who are, men and women basketball Olympic, World and European champions, or like a Serbs, men and women volleyball Olympic, World and European champions, or like Serb Milorad Chavich swimming champion, or like Serb football U19 team who is champion of Europe 2013 , or like Serb football team U21 who are World champions 2015, or like Serbian women who won contest Eurovision, or like Serbian 3x3 basketball team who is 6 time world champions, or Serbs who won handball silver medal, or like world famous scientists Nikola Tesla, Milutin Milankovich and Mihajlo Pupin, yes it's hard to be a Serbs, it's easier to be Albanian 🐏🐑🐐 fcccker
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genetically the EEF/Anatolian farmer folk are not the same as the peoples of the open steppe most associated with Indo-European, such as Yamnaya, Cimmerian, Scythian etc. The main haplogoup of these peoples seems to be R1b, of a R type haplogroup Y chromosome, where as the majority of EEF is G2a, such as we found in Otzi the Iceman. The early farmer folk I think likely spoke the pre-Indo-European language such as the Pelasgian, Etruscan and Rhaetian peoples, the later two likely being remnants of the early Po River culture of the Terramare etc. One thing we find in places is that the EEF folk, when the Steppe migrations brought these peoples together, the farmers moved up into the mountain areas away from the herdsman steppe peoples, so it well could be the Pelasgian are a remnant group of such peoples having moved up into the mountains of what is today Albania, is interesting to think on.
I love you Albanian and to
When a mankind started to think he was thinking in Albanian language.. he was like qifsha jeten 😂😂
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Andi Zeneli eshte shume me i sofistikuar dhe i sakte se gjermanet e mesiperm.
Allahu i shperblefte prof. Rasel Gray, Paul Hagertly nga instituri Max Plank Gjermani dhe Elena Kocaqi per kete pune te vleftshme per origjinen e gjuhes Shqipe!! Respekt!
Zoti thuhet Shqip e jo allahi arba! Fol Shqip e mos e prish gjuhen shqipe me fjal arabe!
@@blackcat.19 Reagim i lodhte !
@@lulzimthaci6356 Për ty ësht! Në qoft se je arba ik në arabi. Shqiptaret e kan gjuhen e vet hynore dhe nuk ju duhet gjuha arabit! Po ti je i pa ditur dhe shkon si miza mbas mutit.
"It has been reported that at the end of the 20th century some Christian Albanians still used the term "TURK" to refer to Muslim Albanians."
Matvey Lomonosov, "On Albanian Identity in the Late Ottoman Empire", Porta Balkanica, vol. 5, 2013, p.12
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Proud Albanian from Turkey
"So while linguists may debate about the ties between Albanian and older languages of the Balkans, and while most Albanians may take the genealogical connection to Illyrian as incontrovertible, the fact remains that there is simply insufficient evidence to connect Illyrian, Thracian, or Dacian with any language, including Albanian"
Curtis, Matthew Cowan (30 November 2011). Slavic-Albanian Language Contact, Convergence, and Coexistence. p. 18
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super video...bravo
Not even close 😁
Βρε με ποιους έχουμε μπλέξει…!
Η απάντησή μου στην προσπάθεια των Αλβανών να παρουσιάσουν την Ομηρική γλώσσα ως δική των...:
"The ludicrous chart at 12'40' contrasting the Greek words with the Albanian diction and the Homeric one is hilariously misleading through either ignorance or wishful cherry-picking. The Greek word “nero”, for instance, actually stems from the ancietnt Greek adjective “νεαρόν» (nearon) meaning fresh, as in νεαρόν ύδωρ ( nearon hydor) = fresh water. Νεμέας (Nemeas) does not mean "curse" in Homeric Greek, but it refers to the area of Nemea in the Peloponesse, steming from the ancient and modern Greek root νέμειν=nemein, which means to distribute, to seperate, to share out. It is still used in Greek in many derivatives like διανέμω, οικονομία (the fair distribution/order of the home), Νεμεσις, απονέμω, etc... Γορός does not mean knee, but is an adjective meaning "bent". The Homeric woed for knee is "γόνυ", modern greek γόνατον, with the particle γο- refering to anything that bends or makes a sharp turn as in γωνία (gonia) = corner, angle.
Either maliciously or ignorantly you pose the greek word thymos (anger) against the Ηomeric word "Mηνίω", without mentioning the modern/ancient word μένος/menos, which also means "anger"and the derivative of "μηνύω", used to this day by Greeks to mean to "charge someone with a crime". Even the accents are wrong in your text.
Other words in the chart are also falsely represented to accommodate the wishful thinking of their authors. "Vrotos", for instance, is not a verb, but an adjective meaning "mortal, perishable, like in modern Greek "trotos" τρωτός. The listed word "γριά" is the modern Greek rendering of Homeric "γραία" and it does not mean "married woman" but "old woman". "Gynaika" means "woman" from the declention of the ancient Greek "gynee" γυνή.. In Homeric Greek the word would have been "γυνή γαμήτις", or simply "γυνή". "Βοή" is wrongly rendered as "thrino" (to mourn), whereas to this day, as in Homeric times, it meant "any loud cry or continual noise sound" as in modern Greek "βουητό" (prolonged noise) and βους = cow (due to its moaning sound), and it has survived in the compound of modern Greek as "βοήθεια" = to cry out to the divine (θείον) for assistance. You see, the derivatives of these Homeric roots function only in Greek, not in Albanian, the latter probably having borrowed and mispronounced many Greek words, as less developed neighbors often do...
At the end of the day, it does not matter which language is the “oldest”, but which language has had the greatest impact on the world through its compilation of ideas and etymology.
And this language is incontestably found in the Hellenic branch, whose script is the oldest of all European languages..
Besides, speaking of "script"..., there are no written records of Albanian before the 13th century of our common era.
Any similarities between Homeric Greek and Albanian may very well be attributed to the cultural-linguistic influence of the more advanced Greeks on their more primitive northern neighbours, or even a common Indo-European root, the latter of which theory is just that: theoretical...
Tell your quasi-paralinguists to stop feeding their delusions with ill-founded nationalistic wishful thinking, claiming that Achilles is a Pelasgian who spoke Albanian as the ahistorical Slavs to the north of Macedonia claim Alexander to be theirs."
Και Ελληνιστί:
Ο πίνακας που αντιπαραβάλλει τις ελληνικές λέξεις με τις αλβανικές και τις Ομηρικές είναι εκπληκτικά παραπλανητικός είτε λόγω αγνοίας είτε λόγω επιλεκτικής επιλογής. Η ελληνική λέξη "νερό", για παράδειγμα, πηγάζει πραγματικά από το αρχαίο ελληνικό επίθετο "νεαρόν" που σημαίνει φρέσκο, όπως στο "νεαρόν ύδωρ" = φρέσκο νερό. Ο όρος "Νεμέας" (Nemeas) δεν σημαίνει "κατάρα" στην Ομηρική γλώσσα, αλλά αναφέρεται στην περιοχή της Νεμέας στην Πελοπόννησο, πηγάζοντας από την αρχαία και σύγχρονη ελληνική ρίζα νέμειν, που σημαίνει να μοιράζει, να διαχωρίζει, να μοιράζει. Χρησιμοποιείται ακόμα και σήμερα στα ελληνικά σε πολλά παράγωγα, όπως διανέμω, οικονομία, Νεμέσις, απονέμω, κ.λπ... Ο όρος "Γορός" δεν σημαίνει γόνατο, αλλά είναι επίθετο που σημαίνει "λυγισμένο".
Και άλλες λέξεις στον πίνακα παρουσιάζονται αναληθώς για να εξυπηρετήσουν τις ευχούμενες σκέψεις των συντακτών τους. Το "βροτός", για παράδειγμα, δεν είναι ρήμα, αλλά επίθετο που σημαίνει θνητός, επιγείος, όπως στα σύγχρονα ελληνικά "τρωτός". Η λίστα "γριά" είναι η μεταγενέστερη μορφή της Ομηρικής "γραία" και δεν σημαίνει "παντρεμένη γυναίκα", αλλά "ηλικιωμένη γυναίκα". Το "Γυναίκα" προκύπτει από τη κλίση της αρχαίας ελληνικής "γυνή". Στην Ομηρική ελληνική η λέξη θα ήταν "γυνή γαμήτις" ή απλά "γυνή". Το "Βοή" αναπαρίσταται λάθος ως "θρηνώ» (να θρηνήσει), ενώ μέχρι και σήμερα και όπως στην Ομηρική εποχή σήμαινε "κάθε δυνατή κραυγή ή συνεχής θόρυβος", όπως στο "βουητό", βουήθεια για βοήθεια = φωνάζω προς το θείον.
Βλέπεις, τα παράγωγα από αυτές τις Ομηρικές ρίζες λειτουργούν μόνο στα ελληνικά και όχι στα αλβανικά, τα οποία πιθανόν έχουν δανειστεί και έχουν παραποιηθεί πολλά ελληνικά λήμματα, όπως συμβαίνει συχνά στους λιγότερο ανεπτυγμένους γείτονες...
Στο τέλος της ημέρας, δεν έχει σημασία ποια γλώσσα είναι η "παλαιότερη", αλλά ποια γλώσσα έχει επηρεάσει περισσότερο τον κόσμο μέσω της συλλογής ιδεών και ετυμολογίας της. Και αυτή η γλώσσα βρίσκεται αδιαμφισβήτητα στον ελληνικό κλάδο, του οποίου το σύστημα γραφής είναι το παλαιότερο όλων των ευρωπαϊκών γλωσσών. Επιπλέον, δεν υπάρχουν γραπτά έγγραφα στα αλβανικά πριν τον 13ο αιώνα της Κοινής μας Εποχής.
Οποιεσδήποτε ομοιότητες μεταξύ της Ομηρικής ελληνικής και της αλβανικής μπορεί εξίσου να αποδοθούν στην πολιτιστικο-γλωσσική επίδραση των πιο προηγμένων Ελλήνων στους πιο πρωτόγονους βόρειους γείτονές τους.
Πείτε στους ημίμαθείς γλωσσολόγους σας να σταματήσουν να τρέφουν τις αυταπάτες τους με αβάσιμες εθνικιστικές ευχοπιστίες, ισχυριζόμενοι ότι ο Αχιλλέας είναι Αλβανός, όπως οι Σλάβοι βόρεια της Μακεδονίας ισχυρίζονται ότι ο Αλέξανδρος είναι δικός τους.
Ο Αχιλλέας Αλβανός λολ
Αλήθεια όμως μόλις 'σκότωσες' αυτό το βίντεο και νιώθω σαν αυτόπτης μάρτυρας 😂
Just a short but important note: What we , ethnic Albanians mean by 'Albanians' is not just the citizens of modern Albania but also Albanians of Kosovo...
As a matter of fact, as my mother is a Kosovo Albanian, and I grew up with Kosovo Alvanian culture, I witnessed that due to circumstances (discrimination and segregation of Kosovo Albanians by those Albanian non-friendly serbs), I noticed that Kosovo Albanians preserved much of the Albanian culture and identity with even more zeal Dignity and Pride then Albanians from Albania...
This is why in my head when I hear the word Albanian I do not primarily think of a citizen of modern Albania but of that Noble Dignified and Proud Kosovan Albanians that defied discrimination and downgrading for many many decades.....
"The language of the Albanians is unformed and adulterated. In many areas Italian elements have been incorporated into the language, in others Greek and in others Slavonic. Therefore Albanians who live fifty or sixty miles apart do not understand each other. In addition, there are racial differences between the Gegs who live in the wild north and the Tosks in the less rugged south. One would say that they belong to different ethnicities. And indeed this is the case. It would be easy to prove that the Albanians are not one people but half a dozen peoples."
Sir John Foster Fraser, "Pictures from the Balkans", CHAPTER XXIV. THE ALBANIANS, p. 257-258)
So where and who do you believe these distinct Albanian groups mentioned in this paragraph are and originate from? Do you think they have lived there centuries before Christ?
@@universalconquest4447 "From place names, we know that Slavic settlements were also widespread throughout Albania, and it can be assumed that the Slavs came to form the majority population in the region for several centuries."
"The early urban settlements founded along the coast were initially populated by the ancient Greeks and Romans, and were later inhabited by Venetians, Byzantine Greeks, southern Slavs, Italian traders, and even Jews. It was only in the Ottoman period that Albania really became Albanian in an ethnic sense, and it was first in the twentieth century that the Albanians created an independent state of their own. Thus, for many centuries, the history of Albania had little or nothing to do with the Albanian people. They were but one stone in a great mosaic. In this sense, the history of Albania comprises much more than the history of the Albanians."
"As has been noted above, the first millennium of Albanian history had little to do with the Albanian peoples themselves. As an ethnic group, the Albanians first emerged from the mists of history in the early years of the second millennium A.D."
Robert Elsie, Keeping an Eye on the Albanians: Selected Writings in the Field of Albanian Studies, 2015, p. 11-40.
@@vangelisskia214 1) If Albanians were just a mixture of Greeks and Romans then their language would be a mixture of Greek and Latin but instead they have an authentic language with root words that differ from Greek and Latin.
2) Albanians were mentioned as a group in the 11th century AD, which is fairly early considering that most modern European nationalities developed centuries later.
3) All ethnic groups are melting pots of different people and tribes.
@@universalconquest4447 The Albanian language has a huge amount of Latin and Greek derived vocabulary. This is a fact. There is indeed a grammatic basis from another language, but there is no expert linguist that can claim with certainty whether that basis is from Ilyrian, Thracian, Dacian or from another distinct ancient language alltogether. So, there is no definitive proof that Albanian derives from ancient Illyrian.
@@universalconquest4447 You speak of Albanians during the 11th century as a group and then compare this with modern nationalities?! Albanians were only an ethnic group and never a nation until only a 100 years back. Btw the Greek, Armenian and Persian ethnic groups (among others) preexisted the Albanian for some... 1500 years...
Since 1908