@@marianwillenbrink5537 Wow, Barrakuda is something special. To be honest, the modern ones are more economical?... but honestly, what's the point if the economical ones are always heavier. Nobody needs too much unnecessary electronics! Keep your gem and take good care of it! I don't like these new modern plastic bombers either. Greetings from west Germany ;)
If those two cars were at a show, I'd have way more interest in the '70 Challenger. Just my opinion, but I give much more credit to the 1970 owner for essentially building that car. Granted, it's drivetrain is probably nearly as modern as the 2020 car. I just find it much less cool to buy a fast car "off the rack."
I like the pre2015 Challengers because they take more styling cues from the 1970 like the grill & tail lights & hood. Newer ones are more like the 1971 with two grill inserts and separated tail lights
The '70 ran a 14 flat @ 104 back in the day stock .... and those numbers were corrected to sea level specs. In reality they'd squeeze a mid 14 @ 98 mph.
Would have liked to see a fairer comparison with a 6 speed 2020 R/T. Im surprised to hear this engine was pulled out of a SUV and not a original Big Block Hemi! Very nice runs brotha!
Those older cars were lighter my thoughts. I thought the Cuda's were more popular in the day. Glad to see someone is responsible & keeping it on the track & off the streets. :)
I have both. 1970 Challenger 340 automatic 6:43 and a 2009 Challenger R/T 6 speed manual. I have only ran the 09 at ZMax and my times were 13.4@106 mph. Not too sure what the 340 would run. The engine is warmed up pretty good with air gap intake and Carter 750 carb. .500 lift crane cam and headman headers. I guess the times would be similar.
Other than the engine sizes, the power-to-weight ratio is the biggest thing that separates today's muscle cars from those during the glory days and the late 80s into the 90s.
@@noboltsleftbehind just started my build last year stripped the car to its shell and pulled the trigger on the RMS FRont and rear suspension. And going with the 392 hemi.
@noboltsleftbehind I've seen you racing at irwindale that's down the street where I live. I would love to see the car and pull some inspiration from it.
@@stevenleyba4 No way man, that's awesome, small world. Send me a message on instagram at instagram.com/noboltsleftbehind and I'll let you know when I'll be at Irwindale next so you can check it out!
Heh, I heard that as , "No balls left behind" the first time he said it. Seems like you'd lose most of the surface-heat sticky-rubber from the burnouts when you roll them over all that cold pavement. When I raced a motorcycle, I'd spin the wheel right into the take-off spot to make sure it was maximum sticky. I needed a wheelie bar to keep from flipping over at launch.
Impressive for a Pre-Eagle Hemi with cam only. I have the same engine in my 05 Ram single cab. The eagle heads Hemi in the 09+ Ram trucks had about 45 more HP.
Nice, you know your Hemis sir. Yes mine’s a pre-eagle truck motor I pulled out of an 05 Durango. I was surprised too how much the motor woke up with just a mild/medium cam and a tune.
Great content! I think if it was me, I would want the 440 6 Pack in the Original Challenger, or the 426 Hemi, 4 speed Manual. But, whatever works, I am not trying to be an armchair critic here...lol
A big part of my decision to go with a Gen 3 Hemi for this build was weight over the front wheels. I do road race/time attack racing with it (here’s one of my races: th-cam.com/video/XcmjrrKhtI8/w-d-xo.htmlsi=iyQ3m3C46TfShlMM ) and the 5.7 Hemi weighs around 485 lbs, vs a big block 440’s weight at 670 lbs and the old school 426 Hemi’s whopping 840 lbs! Makes a huge difference in weight balance.
@@noboltsleftbehind Ya, that makes sense from a drag racing perspective. Weight reduction equals better ET. I was speaking from a purist's perspective.
Ok, so maybe the new models outperform the old ones in all around performance, but I’d still take the ‘70, ANY DAY!!! Not because of what it can “do”, but because of what it “IS”!!👍👍😄
Great, the old '70s Challenger with this good engine (both have the same displacement and are Hemi) and a manual 6-speed Transmission - Fantastic 👏🏼👍🏼! The old one would be my choice!! But without the rear Spoiler! I don't like Spoilers! He looks better without the rear Spoiler, it's my Opinion!
I prefer the older quarter mile care my Grandpa Jim had a 1964 440 Dodge 426 Himi Cornett. It would the Quarter mile 11.66 and the difference between his and these two cars is that his was stock.
@@ZacharyBraxton-m1f thank you sir. No idea what happened to the original motor, it was long gone when I bought the car. I probably would have kept it in there if it had the original.
There's a place for the classic and the new. I've got a 65 GTO and a 06 GTO. The 06 is definitely faster top end (160 mph) and feels like 80 mph in the 65. The 65 however is quicker in the 1/4 but only because of the upgrades. The 65 also blows the 06 away with style and class.
The '70 Challenger is one of the coolest looking cars ever built. Much prefer a 440 SixPack over the 5.7. The new challenger always looked too tall and narrow. Love hemis like my 6.4, but 440's are brutish.
The 1970 challenger is a thing of beauty ❤
All old muscle cars are.
have a 1974 barracuda since may of 1978 340 reblult all new new since retired pay 3500 in 1978 just put 26000.00 in in the last 5 years perfect
@@marianwillenbrink5537 Wow, Barrakuda is something special. To be honest, the modern ones are more economical?... but honestly, what's the point if the economical ones are always heavier. Nobody needs too much unnecessary electronics! Keep your gem and take good care of it! I don't like these new modern plastic bombers either. Greetings from west Germany ;)
whats even funny is the old challenger weighs less then the new one xD
@@kevinhawley962 das stimmt ! 😂
I was definitely hoping for a 440 under the hood
definitely- a 6 pack!!!!!
Same lol or a my favorite the legendary 426 hemi.
Give me the 1970 all day long.Beautiful car.Wins on personality alone.
When it come to looks, they can't replace the 70 Challenger and 71 Cuda.
Definitely rather have the 70 RT. Great video
No matter how advanced the technology of the automotive industry is, the old models remain the basis of power
The old one has a newer hemi in it lol
The old one is a whole lot lighter than that hog of a new one.
If you strip all the modern junk off an engine the core is basically the same as the old ones.
Your dam I built a 30 over 350 for my 92 S10 4 wire's to run the motor no electronic junk
Idk man a dodge demon 170 can go 0-60 in 1.66 seconds
Not old Vs. New when they both have modern Hemis.
Exactly! It is converted! Lame for a comparison.
It is a pre eagle heads Hemi though.
I agree put it up against something old with some power adders as the new hemi has
LAME! was expecting a real old vs new. 👎. that 70 is a beautiful car though!
@@speedracerjeff doesn't matter. It's obviously modified.
I mean the 1970 is lighter plus the driver knows how to change gears effectively
As the driver of the 1970, thank you sir
2020 used nitrous?
Old daddy can do real things! 👍
Very cool, great job! ✊ thank u
@@ionchira5448 yes, he was on a 100 shot
PUT 426 IN OLD ONE SINCE NEW ONE WANTS TO SHOOT NITROUS
Wow! That 70 Challenger is GORGEOUS!
Duude that was sick! I'll take the 1970 100 times outta 100. One of my all time faves.
@@chuizune thank you sir! 🤘
If those two cars were at a show, I'd have way more interest in the '70 Challenger. Just my opinion, but I give much more credit to the 1970 owner for essentially building that car. Granted, it's drivetrain is probably nearly as modern as the 2020 car. I just find it much less cool to buy a fast car "off the rack."
Would have been more interesting to see if the 1970 had the original motor vs a stock new 5.7
Agreed
Wouldn't have been fair to the new kid on the block
There are no losers in this race.
Just the people who watch the video.
Old muscle cars never die. They are just getting FASTER!
I like old school cars better than these new ones . The new ones are built cheap , and sold like of they are gold
Give Dodge credit. They did a great job on designing the new Challengers!
I own one and totally agree!!!!
They look good until you put them side by side
@@baker4132You got that right!
The new one is a total hog. Too fat.
@@MarlboroMaroon I 100% agreed, I love the new Challengers.
Especially the wide bodies!
I'm not siding with either car I'll take both because I'm a real muscle car enthusiasts, old school or new.."Dodge, the brotherhood of muscle"
Absolutely amazing shifting.
Thank you sir
The 70 showed Her stuff , I would've gone with the Pistol Grip Shifter like what came out in 1970 Mopars..
Imho, the new has a sock design, but the older one just has that awesome look that brands can't replicate today.
I like the pre2015 Challengers because they take more styling cues from the 1970 like the grill & tail lights & hood. Newer ones are more like the 1971 with two grill inserts and separated tail lights
Regardless of winner, I’d take a classic pre fuel crisis counterpart every time.
Nice shifting bro, and those drone shots are awesome!
Thank you sir!
The 2020 car should also have been a manual. Cannot understand the obsession with these bloody automatics!
The '70 ran a 14 flat @ 104 back in the day stock .... and those numbers were corrected to sea level specs.
In reality they'd squeeze a mid 14 @ 98 mph.
Great racing.. love the classic.. and for a manual to match a modern auto.. outstanding shifting
Would have liked to see a fairer comparison with a 6 speed 2020 R/T. Im surprised to hear this engine was pulled out of a SUV and not a original Big Block Hemi! Very nice runs brotha!
Awesome! Was a lot of fun, you’ll have to do another one when you come up sometime this summer!
Absolutely man, let’s do it
Those older cars were lighter my thoughts. I thought the Cuda's were more popular in the day. Glad to see someone is responsible & keeping it on the track & off the streets. :)
Awesome, its remarkable how that these two cars 50 years apart can compete so closely!
They have the same motor.
El modelo 70 -te enseñaré como correr nieto de mi corazón 😊 modelo 2020 -si abuelo
Honestly, couldn't tell you were driving a manual. That was some fantastic shifting.
Thank you sir
I have a 1970 440 SIX PACK 4 speed. It’s nice and fast.
In white with tag OA-5599...
I have both. 1970 Challenger 340 automatic 6:43 and a 2009 Challenger R/T 6 speed manual. I have only ran the 09 at ZMax and my times were 13.4@106 mph. Not too sure what the 340 would run. The engine is warmed up pretty good with air gap intake and Carter 750 carb. .500 lift crane cam and headman headers. I guess the times would be similar.
I bet it would, those 340s were spicy motors and relatively light weight too
Another thing people miss the 1970 rt ran 4.10gears
A 4:10 axle differential ?
@@mikewallace8087
No high top end.
The 70 is a great looking car. I only wish it had the gen 2 426 hemi to really roast the new car.
I just love the 1970 BEAST that look 👀 and everything about it ❤😊thank you so much from Sydney Australia 😊😊😊
That drone was hauling butt!
Other than the engine sizes, the power-to-weight ratio is the biggest thing that separates today's muscle cars from those during the glory days and the late 80s into the 90s.
Wow, 50 years, and win run! Cool
Both nice cars.No matter which car won I would take the old school challenger any day.
Dom said it right- Ask any racer. Real racer.
it doesn't matter if you win by an inch or mile. Winning's winning
Incrível comparação entre as gerações do Challenger. Excelente produção do vídeo, parabéns.
great video .. awesome burnout in the 70
I wont even talk about performance. Even simply in style, there aint no achool like the old school ❤
Lol such a humble guy I like that keep it up row them gears put them down 1320 is yours Old School Wins again ;')
Nice work!! Both performed well. Thanks for sharing :)
This gets me so excited for my 1970 Dodge Challenger complete restomod build.
Heck yeah man!!
@@noboltsleftbehind just started my build last year stripped the car to its shell and pulled the trigger on the RMS FRont and rear suspension. And going with the 392 hemi.
@noboltsleftbehind I've seen you racing at irwindale that's down the street where I live. I would love to see the car and pull some inspiration from it.
@@stevenleyba4 No way man, that's awesome, small world. Send me a message on instagram at instagram.com/noboltsleftbehind and I'll let you know when I'll be at Irwindale next so you can check it out!
Heh, I heard that as , "No balls left behind" the first time he said it.
Seems like you'd lose most of the surface-heat sticky-rubber from the burnouts when you roll them over all that cold pavement. When I raced a motorcycle, I'd spin the wheel right into the take-off spot to make sure it was maximum sticky. I needed a wheelie bar to keep from flipping over at launch.
Haha No Balls Left Behind, I'm gonna use that for sure 😂😂
Impressive for a Pre-Eagle Hemi with cam only. I have the same engine in my 05 Ram single cab.
The eagle heads Hemi in the 09+ Ram trucks had about 45 more HP.
Nice, you know your Hemis sir. Yes mine’s a pre-eagle truck motor I pulled out of an 05 Durango. I was surprised too how much the motor woke up with just a mild/medium cam and a tune.
Complimenti bellissime auto sportive 😮😮😮😊😊😊❤❤❤🎉🎉🎉
Great content! I think if it was me, I would want the 440 6 Pack in the Original Challenger, or the 426 Hemi, 4 speed Manual. But, whatever works, I am not trying to be an armchair critic here...lol
A big part of my decision to go with a Gen 3 Hemi for this build was weight over the front wheels. I do road race/time attack racing with it (here’s one of my races: th-cam.com/video/XcmjrrKhtI8/w-d-xo.htmlsi=iyQ3m3C46TfShlMM ) and the 5.7 Hemi weighs around 485 lbs, vs a big block 440’s weight at 670 lbs and the old school 426 Hemi’s whopping 840 lbs! Makes a huge difference in weight balance.
@@noboltsleftbehind Ya, that makes sense from a drag racing perspective. Weight reduction equals better ET. I was speaking from a purist's perspective.
They corner and stop better lighter weight as well
Great cars, the LED's on the Nitrous Purge was a nice touch. lol
Beautiful challenger ! Very slick car...
Excellent!!
No Bolts Left Behind, You're the best! I just had to subscribe!
The 2020 looks like it needs to go on a diet. 1970 all the way!
Damn, I could imagine somewhere in the mid to high 12’s on the qtr., which isn’t bad for a 5.7 Hemi.
They're not running a 1/4 mile in this vid. Judging by the ET vs MPH I'd guess it's closer to 1000 ft.
I don't understand why he doesn't tell us the length of the track . That means everything in drag racing .
I love the 1970 challenger look personally
Crazy the new one so nuch heavier over the 70 when they were all steel.
All the technology I’m assuming
@@reallymentalpig1173 Who wants or needs it.
So cool 🤘
WOW Great Job******
Great video love to see the the comparison...👍
It's crazy seeing 2 5.7s running high 11s. Over here making Hellcats a lil scared haha.
Don’t worry, this was a 1000ft (un prepped) track 😂. On a prepped quarter mile we’d be in the high 12s
Bro relax that was not a quarter mile haha
I was thinking the same thing. Those et and mph aren't matching up for a quarter mile.
@@noboltsleftbehind I was wondering, the times and speeds didn't make sense to me. You're 320' short of a 1/4 mile! NOW I get it
@@tommygatch 1/8 mile run
Old beats new. Old is gold!
Modern tires allow the '70 to really hook up.
Ok, so maybe the new models outperform the old ones in all around performance, but I’d still take the ‘70, ANY DAY!!! Not because of what it can “do”, but because of what it “IS”!!👍👍😄
Old car top, a have audi a6c7 2.0 Quattro 2017 and audi s4c4 2.2 Quattro 1992))))
wow, thought the new one would blow the doors off of old school.
It's not old school. The put a modern engine in it.
Well, exactly, so why put "1970 v 2020?"
That’s why you were the Crown 👑
Nah, Nova is top dog now
😱
Great, the old '70s Challenger with this good engine (both have the same displacement and are Hemi) and a manual 6-speed Transmission - Fantastic 👏🏼👍🏼!
The old one would be my choice!! But without the rear Spoiler! I don't like Spoilers! He looks better without the rear Spoiler, it's my Opinion!
La época de los Muscle Car fuè la de los '70....que quede claro!
Ah!, se me olvidaba!: enhorabuena por la filmación en dron, es MAGISTRAL!
I own a 70 with a scat pack. One day I’d love to put a Helliphant in it.
I'd rather have a '70 440 Six-Pack Challenger than either of them, personally.
The new Challenger is really cool. Much better than the new Charger, but the old dogs are still WAY cooler.
It’s said for every 100lbs lost you go 1/10 of a second faster. That and you have low gears, awesome.
Old school muscle all the way brother 🧐🧐🧐🧐🧐
O piloto do 1970 é melhor...deu benga no 2020...
I prefer the older quarter mile care my Grandpa Jim had a 1964 440 Dodge 426 Himi Cornett. It would the Quarter mile 11.66 and the difference between his and these two cars is that his was stock.
The only way to get that time is off a cliff, fanboy. I'd also like to know how the car had two different engines at once, lol.
Body style was a 440, for 4:56 gears it would run a high level had a Plymouth satellite will do the same Hollywood speedway stock@@Mst-bh9ti
This classic has a modern 5.7. The comparison isn't what many think
Nice looking Challenger. What mufflers are you using, sounds good
Thanks! They're Flowmaster 40 Series
If the 70 had an old school engine, it would be even more of an ass whippin'.
1000 pounds lighter that what did it . i have old challenger r/t car,s one is 440 six pack slightly worked over it will stay with them both nice cars
Orange paint on a dodge is guaranteed an extra 50 rwhp!!😂
All motor and a 6 speed. He got a cool setup for the old school. What happened to the original motor?
@@ZacharyBraxton-m1f thank you sir. No idea what happened to the original motor, it was long gone when I bought the car. I probably would have kept it in there if it had the original.
There's a place for the classic and the new. I've got a 65 GTO and a 06 GTO. The 06 is definitely faster top end (160 mph) and feels like 80 mph in the 65. The 65 however is quicker in the 1/4 but only because of the upgrades. The 65 also blows the 06 away with style and class.
Old schools the way to go!
Both nice, but the '70 wins all day for looks and style. Would have preferred to see a 426 or 440 six pack but hey who's complaining two lovely cars.
Well I guess I would say with old school.
The '70 Challenger is one of the coolest looking cars ever built. Much prefer a 440 SixPack over the 5.7. The new challenger always looked too tall and narrow. Love hemis like my 6.4, but 440's are brutish.
Not a Mopar fan have a 70 SS Chevelle Judge 442 bought a 18 Challenger V6 runs in the fourteens
So, what's up with the LOW trap speeds?? Both should easilly be 113-119 mph if indeed this is a true 1/4 mile.
It’s 1000ft unprepped, not a full quarter mile
Give me the classics any day over the new
And the best use for a drone award goes to….
Weight difference and driving overcame the nitro
You need to bang shift that 6 speed.
I want to see the telemetry on the 2020. Lifting?
I would take an original with a 318 two barrel carburetor in a heartbeat.
If this 70 was a factory original it would have a 7 liter not a 5.7 engine, soo... the race results should be or could be quite different!
Any weight reduction on the 2020? Awesome color on that car too
Not sure but there didn’t seem to be. Still had full interior and everything
Der alte ist viel besser