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Bethesda was a pretty mediocre company even before skyrim release, which is a highly overrated game in terms of a arpg experience. They are behaving exactly like they did with fallout 3 (buggy game with mediocre roleplay and storytelling) the only diference is that they cant create more half broken-obsolete games without people noticing it. And of course since they have muh skyrim their ego is on the roof, and that makes them way more greedy than ever before.
Hold my credit card, the three numbers on the back, the expiration date, my signature, my home and number, my email address, my ID, my wasted money, and my shitty rum.
lol, the mini DLCs! That was a great meme. "No no no, officer, I'm not killing this man! I'm just gently pushing him with this happiness knife!" Goddamn, they really do think we're retards.
@Sarok just as many tards jumping on the i'm outraged bandwagon as well . once the mob has spoken logic disappears no matter what you do or say. once the balls tarts rolling you'll find anything wrong. having no disk isn't anything new . they have been doing it for years . long before this. as a matter of fact all co. do it . i bought fallout 4 thatw as a case witha steam key inside.
It is so ironic and poetic. I mean among those things that happened in the Fallout Universe that led to the Nuclear War were greed (corruption), lying (lack of transparency) and dismissive thinking. I mean it's all inspired by the real world, but it's damn hypocritic to produce anything Fallout related while deceiving consumers by lack of transparency just to milk money.
Remember everyone, it took YEARS for Electronic Arts and Activision to reach this level of suck, you have to admire Bethesda and their persistence, they've managed to do it in a month and a half!
They have been a shitty company ever since the release of Oblivion. After Oblivion, it seemed like they just relied on the audiences ignorance to pass along.
I like skyrim, and by association, I got into fallout. Never played 76, but this whole fiasco has been pretty damn entertaining from the outside Edit: Im hella scared for elder scrolls
I worry about TES' future though. If all this 76 madness and Bethesda digging its own grave is any indication of things to come, TES 6 might be a mess at best and a massive disaster at worst... or perhaps not even come at all, if by that time Bethesda's gone broke.
I love the Elder Scrolls games, but I could never really get into Fallout. I won't be buying TES6 until after it's been out for a few months at this rate. I don't trust Bethesda after all this.
@@omarsheriff51 But he didn't say he was a fan though; liking something does not equate to being a fan. Like, I love Oblivion to death but i'm not gonna spend a shit ton of money on anything related to it, castrate anyone that hates the game or suck on Bethesda's balls just because they created the game.
Hey I mean, It's fun to be #1 at something... If other better companies beat you at the best why not try to be the worst. Maybe EA and Activision will get some competition in being the worst.
You can buy a bottle of Castillo rum for literally 7 dollars. It's not the best rum. But I'm fairly certain Bethesda isn't going top shelf either. However that shows you how cheap it is to produce a decent product. So essentially they are charging at least 50 dollars for a piece of plastic. Maybe there's a glass shortage as well. This is ridiculous. I'm done with company.
From what I found the rum they are using contains a ton of caramel which is used to fake an aged and expensive look in cheap rum. Take with that what you will
@JosieCat Rum and Coke is my drink of choice, but I just can't drink Kraken by itself. As a mixer it's good. By itself it's utter shite. Still, I'd rather Kraken than this crap.
@@xxxCrackerJack501xxx is right, nobody found out that Vault-Tec sucked until after everyone was dead and to their credit, their products actually worked. They added social experiments but the inhabitants survived the bombs.
Vault-tec was malicious, not incompetent. Technically, all their products actually worked, and really well too. They just weren't expecting them to actually be used. It's like reverse incompetence.
Taking lessons from EA.... I'm wondering if they can survive a bad STARFIELD release. If that isn't PERFECT, they'll be raked thru the coals by the public. If they have old bugs thanks to the Creation engine, go down the overpriced cosmetic DLC route, add Lootboxes , Overpriced preorder edition, or some other false advertising ploy and we can say goodbye to TES and Fallout.
And when you pick it up and take a drink and then set it down begins to flicker light and dark repeatedly and then flies across the room because Gamebryo can't render textures and collision for shit
Careful to anyone who throws the bottle away carelessly, as if it’s on the floor, it’s liable to start spinning infinitely and will likely launch into the stratosphere upon contact with someone’s foot, killing the person in the process due to poorly calculated physics-related damage.
@@icantthinkofagoodusername4464 careful when you sit it on a table, it's liable to levitate and then fall through the table and onto the floor and begin clipping with silverware and making earrape glass noises when you touch it
elvancor Not really, this is the final product and in all regards is what the Nuka Black Rum is supposed to look like according to Bethesda when they hired an outside company to produce these. Typical of Bethesda, no less.
@@shockwaveexp3465 You mean since Bethesda didn't produce the thing itself? I think it goes without saying that people who bought this thought they were buying a glass bottle of that shape. I think it goes without saying that Bethesda was well aware of that. I think it looks like Bethesda initially assumed the glass version could be done, then silver screen told them "uh, no, we can't just create a completely knew shape of glass bottle! having that done would be insanely expensive... we can do a regular bottle with the label?", and Bethesda was like "Wtf no that won't do! Shit, shit SHIT people already ordered that thing! We gotta figure out how to make the product look like THIS." - "Well, how about a plastic casing? Would set us back a few weeks, but..." - "Do that. As long as the product _looks_ like what we advertised, we'll be fine."
@@elvancor No the OP was correct it was basicly a kick starter cause they charged 80 bucks, that high price was obv being understood as "Ok we have to charge this high amount because we are getting special glass bottles made" That was their plan. Once it backfired they were to greedy to lower the price, and partial refund all the pre orders.
Fallout 76, the canvas bag and nuka dark rum are particularly funny in their irony. Fallout games have loads of stories of corporate wrongdoing in terminals and holotapes. "We determined that one of the components of the product was not up to Fallout standards" honestly sounds like it could have come from a terminal in one of the games. As does "Please contact Bethesda Support to provide proof of your CE purchase. They will assist in granting your account 500 atoms'. How can you forget when one customer was told that Bethesda "didn't plan on doing anything" about the canvas bag situation! It's laughable and perfectly ironic that this all comes in the wake of a Fallout game.
As a person who works in production, I would place all the fault of this blunder on bethesda and not the bottling company. In my case, I make specialized packaging for companies. For example if you want a special container shaped like a diamond, the company I work for would make that sort of thing. And in these scenarios I can say 2 things. 1: These things *should* be planned far in advance. For example just 2 weeks ago I already started cutting special packaging for Easter. 2: In these scenario's if the Bottling company is in any way competent they would be checking everything with Bethesda. Going back to my example of the Diamond shaped packaging, if I'm given an order like that to produce we'll go through many phases of testing, shipping the product off to the customer for approval. Try out different materials, designs, test how the product fits in the packaging, test how the packaging fits when packed in a box for shipping to their plant, and everything is to be checked and approved by the company contracting us before the design is finalized and we begin proper production. Either Bethesda waited too long to give the Bottling plant time to produce these specialized glass bottles, or just said fuck it from the get-go and ordered the rum to be placed in these bullshit plastic case-bottles.
Yeah I work in the packaging industry in a way also and I know for a fact designers get a working full scale sample before production gets the green light for shipping, display, distribution...
I love your production insight. It goes along how i would conduct business if i were to do such a thing. I would be pissed if someone in my company gave the "ok" for that crap.
Thank you! This is exactly what this thread needed. Genuine insider perspective and it comes appreciated. Leo here's wishing you a merry christmas man.
That's what I thought. You may blame the manufacturer for shipping delays if you wish, but not the quality of the product. Someone at Bethesda sat down at some point, looked at the product (as it is now) and said: "Yes, that's OK, you can start mass producing and shipping these." That's not a decision the bottling company makes, that's a decision someone at Bethesda made.
@@jdmr1c3ing That's true, but consistency is key. They haven't gotten to where they are now by having this sort of standard in regards to their products in the past. I'm really surprised because they don't seem apologetic in their actions at all. I understand the jokes and comparisons to other developers but this is a complete 180 for Bethesda. Its one of those situations that just does not make sense. There's such a massive disconnect. I genuinely feel sorry for the people who have a deep interest in the game, who actively participate in the game and want to buy the additional merchandise. They want to support them, they're promised one thing and then given something that doesn't even seem to work properly. Its a bit of a let down for them.
Bethesda is solely responsible for this. Silver Screen Bottling Company would have been approached by Bethesda, they would have issued a quote with specifications for production. Bethesda would have signed off on this, and production would have then commenced. There is no chance Bethesda wasn't aware of the bottle fiasco.
@Jay Morales Good story, but this is really still a case of why in the fuck would anybody pay $80 for a plastic shell over generic rum? Any other issues with FO76 or Bethesda is irrelevant. Any company should be aware that what they promised and delivered is pure theft.
IMStarbuck agreed, Silver Screen Bottling were working to a brief from Bethesda. Bethesda falsely advertised the product, not them. They are not at fault and shouldn’t even be mentioned. This is 100% Bethesda’s responsibility.
Wait for it the Bethesda press release incoming "We would like to point out that there was a shortage of glass. Like canvas its very rare, and this must be mined from the center of the Planet where it is hottest. We used the very best product that we could find and still keep the product up to standards. Do you not like Rum?"
Lmao if the plastic bottle looked a lil cooler and you could put it on other bottles you bought later and actually pour it out with out spilling all over the damn place this wouldn't be so shitty but we are keeping with fallout standards it has 16× the details of any other bottle of nuke cola
So I got the Nuka Dark rum delivered yesterday. After finding out last week how much of a rip-off the rum is I decided I wasn't going to accept the package when it showed up. According to their website if it's refused three times and I never pick it up I would get refunded for the cost of the rum, just not the shipping. Now sense its alcohol an adult is required to sign for the rum. It even says on the website and the packing slip that an adult signature is required upon delivery. The thing is, nobody was home to recieve it. So, I look up the tracking number and it turns out they forged my fucking signature. They even used some weird shipping company called GSO so they could get away with it. The same thing happened to my friend too. He was at work and when he got home it was sitting in front of his door. When he checked online his signature was also forged. These guys are complete scum
Don't know if anyone has mentioned it yet or not, but the worse thing really isn't the cheap arse plastic case the bottle is shipped in. It's the fact the Rum contains caramel. That's added to make the Rum look like it's aged and expensive. It's not. It's most likely the cheapest Rum they could source. I wouldn't pay 25$ for it.
It's all equally important considering that alot if people brought it for the bottle I wouldn't have expected the rum to be high quality unless it was stated
The price tag isn't for the rum, it's for the collectible bottle - which means this is still a huge ripoff. If it was in an actual black glass bottle with the Nuka fins .. well, I personally wouldn't pay $80 for that but I can understand why people might. But not this crummy plastic thing they shipped.
Hey you know what, open the shell Remove the bottle, close the shell and pour contents into the shell. No Problem. Except most the whales blubbering about this are the types that don't do the dishes.
Trying to suck up all the profits they can even if it's not legal lol they're so thick in the head. You'd think they'd learn their lesson after the duffel bag but noope.
@@demetriuss6101 The legality depends on advertising and consumer protection laws in individual areas. It is generally illegal to give your customers a product that is different from what was advertised/purchased.
5$ walmart rum bottle in a 2$ black plastic casing. Totally worth 79,99$. Seriously, someone must've pushed the self destruct button within Bethesda HQ. 🤔🤔
khayjeet why would you say that? Didn't they make 72$ out of each single bottle sold? Isn't that, what, about 10 times the cost? What self-destruct button are you talking about? People are buying it, Bethesda is still making a MINT out of this. They're not 'failing' at all, they raking in all the money people are stupid enough to fork over for PRESALE STUFF FROM A COMPANY THAT IS KNOWN TO LIE. Because it has a faint link to fallout.
That bottling video is hilarious. Like... are you kidding me? They were really that proud of these crappy bottles they that that deserved the somber piano music? Jezus Crim.
@@ProcyonDei 😆 Can't fully argue with that. Joking aside I've always struggled what it means for something to be tone deaf. Now I finally have the perfect representation.
I sit here drinking a nice cold one made for a convention thats just 12 euro. How that case is so bad and barely makes it possible to get a drink into a glass is really amazing. Well Bethesda is at it again.
It saddens me that a song I grew up with "Country Roads" shall now be associated with one of the worst games of all time from now on. I wish the estate of John Denver would sue Bethesda and Zenimax, for quite frankly, damaging their reputation as a result.
Wrong. Mass producing such a bottle would break regulations in the bottling industry. Thats the most likely reason for what happened here with nuka dark rum. The bottling industry has strict standards
I bet you it was just the plain bottle and they didn’t even make those boxes at first, then after the bag fiasco they said “Crap! It doesn’t look like the picture. Better not do that again, let’s bring it up to Fallout standards!” It’s more fun if you spill it on your friends.
I could get three 2’6 bottles of kraken for this garbage ($80 US equals about $95 CDN) come to think of it I could get a bottle grey goose for this shit
Fans: Things can't get any worse after the Fallout76, "canvas" bag and leaking of personal data of customers controversies. Bethesda: Want to buy some rum?
Jonathan James Well, Bethesta did not write that it was Fallout standards, nor did they design or produce the bottle. It was a completly different company. And it is the other company who will earn most of the money.
Anvillior no shortage just the texture of the bottles is a little glitched at the moment currently we are listening to feedback and are working on a patch to fix this issue
@@night6724 fallout 3 had they same type of ending sure the story was went off rail but there's was Interesting places to explore and fun quests to do if the story didn't fit your fancy also there was dlcs you can play which are worth buying, sure some people didn't like the weapon degratuon but I thought it was a nice idea also most games have bugs and fallout nv has had patches, also and I agree that obsidian makes good games that require licences but is that really a bad thing.
@@night6724 I do see where your coming from and you do have a point most just jump on bandwagon from the shitty marketing and don't focus on the issue which is the game itself
At this point it HAS to be on purpose. I'm not even sarcastic. No single human with their right mind would think that's a good idea and no-one would complain.
I think not only is on purpose, it's serving their purpose. Their purpose is to make publicity, no matter if it's good or bad. This also makes their next game's launch look good by comparison.
@@unocualqu1era The old, "the only bad press is no press," strategy? Yeah, I can see that. It doesn't really work as an absolute; _really_ bad press truly is bad press and it seems that these people are testing the line there, but I can almost see this being their rational.
@@scaper8 here it just feels like betsheda lost a shittons of fans and their next release will have a bad time in term of sales , and worst if the next release are even close to the same quality as fallout they'll eventually die.
@@sarcasm-83 for me personally I'm not against buying new titles, but unlike before I won't buy anything from Bethesda until the game has been out for a few weeks, and I can see if they keep this shit train going or finally start to man up.
Well, to be fair, this one isn't from Bethesda, they didn't design this bottle, Silver Screen bottle company did. Plus I don't think you can by this from the Bethesda store, I think you have to buy it from the bottle companies website.
The website that sells it is incredibly weird. Like all the reviews for this product are like 5 stars and every single one is like some quote from the game. Not even joking. It’s almost like they were like forging reviews for this for damage control. When you get the chance go read the reviews for the “Nuka Dark Rum “ on liquorama it’s weird
Holy frick it's weird. I haven't played Fallout so maybe this is just quoting it but there's like talks of Communism and shit and they're all 5 star. And there's this one guy calling everyone ignorant like wow thats some fanboying right there.
A new, custom mold to create the rocket shaped, glass bottles would have had to have been made by the bottling company. This would have been expensive to make and, most likely, impractical in the long run since this was supposed to be a limited edition item. My guess is that the bottling company was like, "Hey, Bethesda, it's gonna cost $X to make the new mold and $X for production." To which Bethesda probably said, "Yeah, we're not paying that. What else can we do?" and the bottling company said, "Well, we have a ton of regular bottles already and a mold for plastic would be way cheaper and we can just make black/white paper stickers. It would save you $X." To which Bethesda replied, "Great! Those nerds won't know the difference!", had an orgasm, and approved.
Not to mention, businesses don't advertise products to sell before cost is taken into account (cost of production being the foundation of determining what price you want to see an item for). Whatever all the options were for this product they would have had specs outlined and quotes made (most likely by more than one company) before even making the decision to proceed, let alone sell.... assuming of course anyone in the company has a lick of business sense.
On the nuka dark rum website contact page, they explicitly state that this plastic thing was 2x more expensive than if they had done it with a glass mould. Maybe they're lying? idk
@mrgerminaro You can't really be blaming the consumer can you? Besides you're automatically assuming everyone who bought the bottle did so with the bag as well. Or even followed the news about the bags in the first place, they could have easily just got the bottle for being cheaper. Can't really assume that. Or blame consumers for a multi billion dollar company for their massive shortcomings. Imagine a kid eating tyson chicken from a grocery store, getting a severe case of salmonella and some guy online going "lol kid deserves it for buying it, loser etc."
@@namelessbacon9483 I agree with expect your example with the Tyson chicken nuggies is way off. With the bag and bottle these weren't alienated cases every bag was cheap nylon and every bottle was a fake piece of plastic. With the nuggets and the kid getting salmonella that's a 1 in like 1000 chance of happening, nothing more than bad luck. So comparing a guy who shits on people for buying a bottle that's associated with the same people that gave us shitty nylon bags, to a guy who who shits on a single kid for having bad luck with a bag of nuggies is just bogus. With the bottle situation it's fool me once fool me twice so that asshole is smart and has some justification in that sense, nuggie guy on the other hand is just a fucking asshole with no support for his attitude.
I work in Fulfillment (on the IT side) and I can tell you that I'm pretty sure I know exactly what happened. Frankly, this started as a failure in administration compounded by a failure in marketing facing a fault in engineering and a lossy product. Take the 'classic nuka-cola bottle shape'. Let us say that the fulfillment company had originally intended to fulfill the product as a custom glass bottle. Unfortunately, that bottle comes with multiple points of failure in shipping - in fact, it's quite likely that the delay was caused by outsourcing the bottle & label creation to a custom job from a certain country. While the prices are great, the quality is... less so. Or worse yet, the quality was fine, but when they received the shipment due to (classic cost cutting by said companies) the bottles arrived in a ~75% failure state. Chipped glass, broken wings, fried labels, etc. So, now the company is scrambling to come up with an alternative, because they were already running under tight margins due to the niche nature of the product. In a moment of desperation, an engineer points out that 3d-printing can churn out facades in a short period of time - no need to spend high dollars on molds. Additionally, as they are already a bottling company, bog-standard glass booze bottles are cheap and easily sourced. Of course, the could have had the option of re-negotiating the contract w/Bethesda, or at least definitely should have. Frankly, if I was Bethesda I'd have thrown them a loaner for getting a source along with a rider saying that all the people who pre-ordered the stuff would get full disclosure (maybe some social media unboxing vids of the busted bottles for humor!) and possible a nice box of chocolates as a 'we're sorry' gift since the delays would push them past X-mass. Of course, Bethesda treats their contractors like shit and are horrible to work with - just ask Obsidian - while demonstrating a certain blindness towards actual effective PR. So, yeah, I could have seen this coming a mile away. It really does fit the current Fallout quality standards - a bad idea to start, plagued with engineering failures and exacerbated by a management team who doesn't think that this is really going to hurt their company that badly. Which, if the next couple games are awesome... it might not, considering how slipshod and cheap everything involved has been. Spending comparatively little on Fallout 76's everything makes the 'losses' less of an issue... oh wait, never mind. I forgot that the most pricey part of video-game development nowadays is advertising.
Im pretty sure they never bothered to organise anything until they had an idea of the orders - when they saw it would be a low run - they didnt bother organising even a boutique production company would have had extremely low fail rate - they just said "ahhhh, fuck it"
There is no shortage of sand anywhere, i mean im no glass blower but how hard would it be to actually make the bottle how its supposed to be designed in mass production i wonder.
Believe it or not glass is really fucking expensive when you have to make custom orders like this. Why do you think custom glass vases, small or large, cost so much? Don't forget that this is a bottling company and not a glass forging or blowing company so they can't make the bottles themselves.
@@debbyolivier5122 For mass production, sure maybe if they choose the right company to outsource to. And also, sand comes in varying qualities. Normal beach sand would make for a terrible glass sand due to all of the impurities in the sand itself.
It almost feels like someone is intentionally trying to ruin them from the inside. Did Todd say something about circumcision or the Federal Reserve before Fallout 76's release?
@Daniel von Strangle in its defense the microtransactions were added in the very end and the game was not artifically made grindy as the release date was solidified. Just a small fact, fuck microtansactions for anything but F2P games.
I ordered a PREY limited edition lithograph last year from the Bethesda store in like idk, April or May. Didn't show up until like July after several emails. No update, nothing. Almost forgot I had ordered it. Their online store and service sucks.
@@SickMuffens Don't get a tracking # until after it ships. I ordered it, paid and got an email confirming this. But they just never shipped it until I emailed them several times asking what's up? They told me they were running behind on production (must have been a paper shortage). It was one of only 300 so not like it's hard to manage that quantity. 2 months later they shipped it. This is a common theme with them I see.
Solkefra Bethesta does not get much money from it. It is an other company that makes this bottles. You have to learn that Bethesta only makes games, not freaking soda!
Hanna Kristoffersen - I’m going to just assume you’re internet trolling and don’t actually believe anything you just wrote. If in the off chance you are actually serious, please look up how licensing works and don’t be so naive as to think that the NFL doesn’t make much money on the Jerseys they sell ... because they play football and don’t make clothing.
hahahaha .... holy shit this is getting to the dark side of comedy. How is this many failures in a row even possible ,even by luck they should have succeeded at least once.
They keep rolling natural 1s on buisness ventures since Howard alone has a luck modifier of -10000 due to the following effect: CEO of Bethesda Studios
It is not Bethesta who made or designes the Nylon bag or the Nuka Dark bottle. It is two sister companies who Bethesta had much fait in, but who tottaly failed at their job.
More like they wanted to rip people off to begin with, someone thought to themselves let's put a $10 bottle of cheap rum with a crap label into an even cheaper plastic case and sell it for an outrageous price, because these dumbass fans will eat it up. This company sucks.
Even Ommegang Brewery and their Game of Thrones lines of beer don't mark up as much as that. And they have custom labels and brews. This is a travesty, in that I can pay less than $40 for premium rum that has been aged almost 2 decades, with a spectacular taste profile and no gimmick.
@@Flufferz626 Well, this rum has been aged too! Can't say for how long, that depends on traffic. But it's absolutely the finest rum that one can buy for, um, the absolute lowest price at which bulk rum is available.
@@mikewhitfield2994 what do you bet it is actually Kraken rum, or Capt Morgan black? Gross. I'll take El Dorado or Zaya or a plethora of other rums for less than half the price kthx.
I have lost count of how many times I thought to myself "This disaster cannot possibly go on any longer".... and yet here we are. Blunder after blunder after blunder. This is a saga for the ages. This probably won't be the end either, I wonder what the next Fallout/Bethesda blunder will be? Any guesses anyone?
This started to feel almost deliberate about 3 or 4 blunders ago, as if they are trying to completely destroy whatever good faith their player base had in them. I have no idea why they would do this but watching Bethesda and Fallout 76 right now is like watching somebody having a mental breakdown right in front of you.
I just hope Doom Eternal and Rage 2 get out ok at this point. I could care less about Starfield or ES6. But if it does come to the company failing I will miss Fallout.
yea when then say "Fallout standards" they mean Fallout 76 standarts and making this bottle form class will be way up high so they make it plastic shit !!!
I'm tempted to buy one to test the quality, but no matter what I lose. Either it's decent rum that I spent $80 on, when I could have gotten literally 2 gallons of decent rum for $83. Or it's shit rum that I paid $80 for and now I have a flimsy plastic shell I could have made in a 3d printer myself for like a dollar.
Fallout Standards = the material costs for the product have to be low, the profit margin has to be as high as possible In my opinion, the rocketshaped bottle was too expensive to make. Just like the bag.
I've got more joy out of Fallout 76 then any other game this year and I haven't even played it. Game of the year without a doubt no game has ever been this funny
@WalkingPromissoryNote 1963 that's cool i payed $85 for the preorder then they dropped the price to $40 after the first week of release that's the biggest bullshit I've ever experienced
+phoogles Dude no normal person or one who is experienced with drinks is gonna give a good review over a 80 dollar drink that comes in a cheap plastic bottle. If you’re gonna make something that expensive, at least make it unique. I can buy some Vodka that’s shaped like a fucking Skull for 50 dollars at my local store. I ain’t blowing 80 bucks on a cheap bottle no matter how good it tastes.
@@uhoh6706 exactly, what make expensive alcohol expensive isn't just the quality of the beverage, but the design of the bottle and quality of the material
@@redacted144 *Bethesda* : I'LL TELL YOU ITS COLA! See it's rrrru-ruu *hic* Ru-cola! See I told you it's *urp* col-Hic! Cola Shipped let's see that *hic* fallout 47 or whatever-it's... *collapses*
Nah. Bethesda knew. I used to work in product design for a bottling company. Special orders only begins production after both parties agree on the final product. We always offered unique designed bottles but costs blow through the roof and only big companies would accept this kind of deals. Most of them go for the traditional bottle catalog and pretty much just pay for a label. As someone that worked on that market I can say that Bethesda did not got for the cheaper option and went for the dollar above the average to get the plastic casing. As for the rum quality, I'm not familiar with Silver Screen but is rare for a bottle company to use the cheapest alcohol for custom orders. I'm going to order one, if the rum is a decent quality I might even say that it was a "fairish" deal. If not, I would agree with you for 80 dlls you can get a ton of good quality alcohol
A special order of custom glass bottles won't be cheap. When they found out how expensive it would cost, some smartass probably had the bright idea of slapping on a plastic casing instead. "The fans won't notice the difference!!!". It's most likely a case of "hey, it's cool idea for a collector's item!", but they didn't do the research beforehand to get an estimate of the production cost.
They need to pay the company making the bottles, in addition to making a return on the product. Of course it's going to be over-priced garbage. If you want something special, make it yourself. I'm not trying to defend Bethesda, mind you. I'm just stating the facts.
Bethesda should ask Coca-Cola or Pepsi to make the whole line of Nuka-cola products, nuka cherry , quantum, victory and wild yes this would be more expensive for Bethesda but it would also be a GIANT step in repairing relations with the community
I have made molded casts before! Glass bottles can be casts the same way into a unique way!!! Bethesda didn't even go the length to even make a glass bottle, what a shame in there part.... Complete BS
@@2girls1cuphead one unique glass battle from this franchise! Hell I could casts one if I really wanted too. After that the rest is easy some Rum, bottle cap, label
Doing a little extra legwork, I got in touch with a liquor company that ordered a bunch of these and initially put it on their website for preorders. Long story shortish, their demo bottle was the same PoS plastic snap cover, and they were extremely disappointed in the rum to boot, noting it's awful, cheap and flavored like coconut. For what they paid, they cancelled the order outright as they couldn't possibly charge more on top of their rate and ever expect to hold themselves accountable. Even a cursory glance at any image they used other than a full frontal shot, you can totally tell the seam was edited out. If that doesn't scream bait and switch or false advertising, I don't know what the hell else qualifies. Like I said to another commentor on another video, they (Bethesda) licensed their name/invention on the tie-in and took the money. They sure as hell ought to get or keep themselves in the loop, but as I'm sure we're all aware, I doubt they can spare a body for more PR exposure.
Give it a few years and this will be number one on a bunch of ‘top 10 games that destroyed the companies reputation’ especially if things continue as they are.
My face just fell when I saw that plastic casing open. My gawd lol They could’ve taken that same shot of the bottle advertised with the case open, revealing the real bottle inside. They didn’t. Never even stated it would be encased. False advertising? Absofuckinglutely!!
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Come on, at least with coal, kids can still make a nice fire to keep warm.
Fallout 76 isn't even good enough to throw in the fire.
Merry Christmas to you too, Yong!
I'll take the coal. F76 isn't even worth getting paid to play it.
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Give Bethesda a lump of coal, for their Fallout 76 efforts.
Merry Chrismas, guys! What did you all get for Christmas? I got Kingdom Hearts Remix collection!
And clothes.
Bethesda probably gave their employees 500 atoms for a Christmas bonus.
And it came out of their paycheck
@@baronvonbunghole5999 implying they get paid
I got a crappy Bluetooth speaker with a customer service label that hasn't even shipped yet for my bonus at work.
Nah, Bethesda actually cares for their employees (unlike customers). I mean after all even janitors are allowed to design quests in their games.
Fallout 76 got less than 85 on Metacritic, so no bonus.
bethesda basically ruined all good things about them in 6 months. Good job mateys .
*1 month
@@cubedmelons876 well i meant since 76 announcement but you are right about 1 month thing too.
Bethesda was a pretty mediocre company even before skyrim release, which is a highly overrated game in terms of a arpg experience.
They are behaving exactly like they did with fallout 3 (buggy game with mediocre roleplay and storytelling) the only diference is that they cant create more half broken-obsolete games without people noticing it.
And of course since they have muh skyrim their ego is on the roof, and that makes them way more greedy than ever before.
"This is nothing but the longest suicide note in history"- Alucard, Castlevania Anime
@@zakarouf Alucard needs to kill Bethesda
'Besthesda can't mess up anymore than this.'
Hold my rum.
well played :D
NightmareChild They are trying to reach the „Fallout stabdard“
Can you not steal that joke?
Hold my credit card, the three numbers on the back, the expiration date, my signature, my home and number, my email address, my ID, my wasted money, and my shitty rum.
Please, stop. There has been so much alcohol passing that I feel drunk myself.
If you read the label it’s normal rum with colouring. So it’s cheap clear rum with added colouring to make it look more expensive and darker.
First, the paid mods were mini dlcs
Then, the disc was cardboard
Then, the bag was nylon
Now the bottles are plastic
lol, the mini DLCs! That was a great meme.
"No no no, officer, I'm not killing this man! I'm just gently pushing him with this happiness knife!"
Goddamn, they really do think we're retards.
@@keld_rhygar you actually are if you bought the game tbh
My disk was real
LOL
@Sarok just as many tards jumping on the i'm outraged bandwagon as well . once the mob has spoken logic disappears no matter what you do or say. once the balls tarts rolling you'll find anything wrong. having no disk isn't anything new . they have been doing it for years . long before this. as a matter of fact all co. do it . i bought fallout 4 thatw as a case witha steam key inside.
"Let's just not make things any worse" - Nobody at Bethesda
Hoopyy „Let‘s not exist“
Bethesda‘s quality control and customer service
Hoopyy oh, that made me laugh lol
what the fuck is happening with their PR?
"Fallout Standards" is gonna be a strong meme in 2019
i feel it
It sits all too well with the EA moral compass.
It is so ironic and poetic. I mean among those things that happened in the Fallout Universe that led to the Nuclear War were greed (corruption), lying (lack of transparency) and dismissive thinking. I mean it's all inspired by the real world, but it's damn hypocritic to produce anything Fallout related while deceiving consumers by lack of transparency just to milk money.
Should just be, “Bethesda standards”.
I want to like your comment but it has 420 likes and I’m not one to ruin a good time
4 months later...
Fallout 3: Where’s my Dad?
Fallout 4: Where’s my Son?
Fallout 76: Where’s my Refund?
LMFAO
👍
Fallout 69: Where is my sex life
This comment got me rolling. G fing G
@@rogercostafernandez870 What about Fallout Tatics?
Remember everyone, it took YEARS for Electronic Arts and Activision to reach this level of suck, you have to admire Bethesda and their persistence, they've managed to do it in a month and a half!
Inkd Reaper well ID Software made those and they did a damn good job (on the first one at least I hope Eternal is awesome as well)
@@inkdreaper874 Both were/are made by Id Software and with a diferent engine than the one used by Bethesda.
They have been a shitty company ever since the release of Oblivion. After Oblivion, it seemed like they just relied on the audiences ignorance to pass along.
Horse Armor
Unfortunately in the case of Activision they are taking Blizzard with them to their doom.
Just a little update, still no shipping info regarding my order. It didn't make it here before Christmas so lets see if it makes it by 2019. XD
This one is clearly "Up to Fallout Standards" then
YTE that is so sad, you spent $160 on this and still got nothing. What is going on anymore?!
Though considering they actually added "Caramel Coloring" to rum I wouldn't hold my breath on it being worth the 80 bucks
I'd cancel my order ASAP
Melody Johnson oh yeah like Bethesda is trustworthy enough now to give a refund now.
I like skyrim, and by association, I got into fallout. Never played 76, but this whole fiasco has been pretty damn entertaining from the outside
Edit: Im hella scared for elder scrolls
Navraj Gill
You’re not wrong
I worry about TES' future though. If all this 76 madness and Bethesda digging its own grave is any indication of things to come, TES 6 might be a mess at best and a massive disaster at worst...
or perhaps not even come at all, if by that time Bethesda's gone broke.
I love the Elder Scrolls games, but I could never really get into Fallout. I won't be buying TES6 until after it's been out for a few months at this rate. I don't trust Bethesda after all this.
"i like skyrim, And by association, i got into fallout." *literally half of the fallout fanbase*
@@omarsheriff51 But he didn't say he was a fan though; liking something does not equate to being a fan. Like, I love Oblivion to death but i'm not gonna spend a shit ton of money on anything related to it, castrate anyone that hates the game or suck on Bethesda's balls just because they created the game.
All of these mess ups have been far more interesting than 76 itself 😂
Reality is stranger than fiction. :)
That isn't much of an achievement. Lol
yeeeep #heyoooo!!
Death Stroke, savage as always
They're really making EA have to work harder to be the worst video game company.
Bullets only from lootboxes incoming.
I know that when people say that "competition is important" they don't mean this, but, well, competition _can just be this._
@@abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz4839 I know right. People are silent as fuck about 2K.
@@ken-yo2hz they are making borderlands. If they make gearbox fuck it up then a problem happens
Hey I mean, It's fun to be #1 at something... If other better companies beat you at the best why not try to be the worst. Maybe EA and Activision will get some competition in being the worst.
You can buy a bottle of Castillo rum for literally 7 dollars. It's not the best rum. But I'm fairly certain Bethesda isn't going top shelf either. However that shows you how cheap it is to produce a decent product. So essentially they are charging at least 50 dollars for a piece of plastic. Maybe there's a glass shortage as well. This is ridiculous. I'm done with company.
For 79$ dollars they better put 2e years old Zacapa in that Nuka Cola Dark bottle.
you can buy 70 rums here on my country with that amount
From what I found the rum they are using contains a ton of caramel which is used to fake an aged and expensive look in cheap rum. Take with that what you will
@JosieCat Rum and Coke is my drink of choice, but I just can't drink Kraken by itself. As a mixer it's good. By itself it's utter shite.
Still, I'd rather Kraken than this crap.
When is Bethesda finally officially changing their name to Vault-Tec?
Even Vault - Tech was more competent than Bethesda
@@xxxCrackerJack501xxx is right, nobody found out that Vault-Tec sucked until after everyone was dead and to their credit, their products actually worked. They added social experiments but the inhabitants survived the bombs.
More like Fault-Tec
Vault-tec was malicious, not incompetent. Technically, all their products actually worked, and really well too. They just weren't expecting them to actually be used.
It's like reverse incompetence.
Taking lessons from EA.... I'm wondering if they can survive a bad STARFIELD release. If that isn't PERFECT, they'll be raked thru the coals by the public. If they have old bugs thanks to the Creation engine, go down the overpriced cosmetic DLC route, add Lootboxes , Overpriced preorder edition, or some other false advertising ploy and we can say goodbye to TES and Fallout.
Even the drinks are in beta stage as well...
hey if its trying to met fallout standards I'm surprised that the bottle wasn't clipping into the plastic
And when you pick it up and take a drink and then set it down begins to flicker light and dark repeatedly and then flies across the room because Gamebryo can't render textures and collision for shit
Second Path don’t forget when it would randomly not respond to you trying to drink it
@@zagqueenofchaos8352if you pick it up everyone around you starts trying to kill you because they think you stole it
Careful to anyone who throws the bottle away carelessly, as if it’s on the floor, it’s liable to start spinning infinitely and will likely launch into the stratosphere upon contact with someone’s foot, killing the person in the process due to poorly calculated physics-related damage.
@@icantthinkofagoodusername4464 careful when you sit it on a table, it's liable to levitate and then fall through the table and onto the floor and begin clipping with silverware and making earrape glass noises when you touch it
They sold a product before they'd even figured out how to make it... basically a kickstarter.
elvancor Not really, this is the final product and in all regards is what the Nuka Black Rum is supposed to look like according to Bethesda when they hired an outside company to produce these. Typical of Bethesda, no less.
@@shockwaveexp3465 You mean since Bethesda didn't produce the thing itself? I think it goes without saying that people who bought this thought they were buying a glass bottle of that shape. I think it goes without saying that Bethesda was well aware of that. I think it looks like Bethesda initially assumed the glass version could be done, then silver screen told them "uh, no, we can't just create a completely knew shape of glass bottle! having that done would be insanely expensive... we can do a regular bottle with the label?", and Bethesda was like "Wtf no that won't do! Shit, shit SHIT people already ordered that thing! We gotta figure out how to make the product look like THIS." - "Well, how about a plastic casing? Would set us back a few weeks, but..." - "Do that. As long as the product _looks_ like what we advertised, we'll be fine."
@@elvancor This is exactly what I was thinking.
@@elvancor No the OP was correct it was basicly a kick starter cause they charged 80 bucks, that high price was obv being understood as "Ok we have to charge this high amount because we are getting special glass bottles made" That was their plan. Once it backfired they were to greedy to lower the price, and partial refund all the pre orders.
just like their video game fo76 lmao
I like how YongYea repeats the list of everything Bethesda has done wrong on every single episode. It keeps getting longer and longer, LOL!
J'zargo The Khajiit that sweet sweet ad revenue per minute
“On the first day of Christmas here’s what Bethesda did to me!”
@@mydreaminghill
...one broken game that i threw away!-
Shit at this rate, the list is going to be longer than the news itself
@@mydreaminghill
2 falsely advertised products-
Fallout 76, the canvas bag and nuka dark rum are particularly funny in their irony. Fallout games have loads of stories of corporate wrongdoing in terminals and holotapes. "We determined that one of the components of the product was not up to Fallout standards" honestly sounds like it could have come from a terminal in one of the games. As does "Please contact Bethesda Support to provide proof of your CE purchase. They will assist in granting your account 500 atoms'. How can you forget when one customer was told that Bethesda "didn't plan on doing anything" about the canvas bag situation! It's laughable and perfectly ironic that this all comes in the wake of a Fallout game.
Yeah lol
As a person who works in production, I would place all the fault of this blunder on bethesda and not the bottling company.
In my case, I make specialized packaging for companies. For example if you want a special container shaped like a diamond, the company I work for would make that sort of thing.
And in these scenarios I can say 2 things.
1: These things *should* be planned far in advance. For example just 2 weeks ago I already started cutting special packaging for Easter.
2: In these scenario's if the Bottling company is in any way competent they would be checking everything with Bethesda. Going back to my example of the Diamond shaped packaging, if I'm given an order like that to produce we'll go through many phases of testing, shipping the product off to the customer for approval. Try out different materials, designs, test how the product fits in the packaging, test how the packaging fits when packed in a box for shipping to their plant, and everything is to be checked and approved by the company contracting us before the design is finalized and we begin proper production.
Either Bethesda waited too long to give the Bottling plant time to produce these specialized glass bottles, or just said fuck it from the get-go and ordered the rum to be placed in these bullshit plastic case-bottles.
Yeah I work in the packaging industry in a way also and I know for a fact designers get a working full scale sample before production gets the green light for shipping, display, distribution...
I love your production insight. It goes along how i would conduct business if i were to do such a thing. I would be pissed if someone in my company gave the "ok" for that crap.
Thank you! This is exactly what this thread needed. Genuine insider perspective and it comes appreciated. Leo here's wishing you a merry christmas man.
Bump
That's what I thought. You may blame the manufacturer for shipping delays if you wish, but not the quality of the product. Someone at Bethesda sat down at some point, looked at the product (as it is now) and said: "Yes, that's OK, you can start mass producing and shipping these." That's not a decision the bottling company makes, that's a decision someone at Bethesda made.
The real bottle was made by a nexus user, the one we got was the creation club version.
This is probably the best way to describe the shit show we have been seeing from them lately
I want the Lovers Lab version
Ahhh the Fallout Standard.
Falsely
Advertised
Laughably
Ludicrous
Overpriced
Underwhelming
Trash
The Bethesda way.
Ohh no
It wasn't always like that.
@@jdmr1c3ing But it is now, and thats the problem
400 likes in 6 hours lmao
@@jdmr1c3ing That's true, but consistency is key. They haven't gotten to where they are now by having this sort of standard in regards to their products in the past. I'm really surprised because they don't seem apologetic in their actions at all. I understand the jokes and comparisons to other developers but this is a complete 180 for Bethesda. Its one of those situations that just does not make sense. There's such a massive disconnect.
I genuinely feel sorry for the people who have a deep interest in the game, who actively participate in the game and want to buy the additional merchandise. They want to support them, they're promised one thing and then given something that doesn't even seem to work properly. Its a bit of a let down for them.
Bethesda is solely responsible for this. Silver Screen Bottling Company would have been approached by Bethesda, they would have issued a quote with specifications for production. Bethesda would have signed off on this, and production would have then commenced. There is no chance Bethesda wasn't aware of the bottle fiasco.
@Jay Morales Good story, but this is really still a case of why in the fuck would anybody pay $80 for a plastic shell over generic rum? Any other issues with FO76 or Bethesda is irrelevant. Any company should be aware that what they promised and delivered is pure theft.
IMStarbuck agreed, Silver Screen Bottling were working to a brief from Bethesda. Bethesda falsely advertised the product, not them. They are not at fault and shouldn’t even be mentioned. This is 100% Bethesda’s responsibility.
Wait for it the Bethesda press release incoming "We would like to point out that there was a shortage of glass. Like canvas its very rare, and this must be mined from the center of the Planet where it is hottest. We used the very best product that we could find and still keep the product up to standards. Do you not like Rum?"
Do you guys not have bottle???
lol Perfect!
Lmao if the plastic bottle looked a lil cooler and you could put it on other bottles you bought later and actually pour it out with out spilling all over the damn place this wouldn't be so shitty but we are keeping with fallout standards it has 16× the details of any other bottle of nuke cola
Our company has a shortage on quality
Just play a different game company’s game??
i wonder if well get another 500 atoms for this lol
So I got the Nuka Dark rum delivered yesterday. After finding out last week how much of a rip-off the rum is I decided I wasn't going to accept the package when it showed up. According to their website if it's refused three times and I never pick it up I would get refunded for the cost of the rum, just not the shipping. Now sense its alcohol an adult is required to sign for the rum. It even says on the website and the packing slip that an adult signature is required upon delivery. The thing is, nobody was home to recieve it. So, I look up the tracking number and it turns out they forged my fucking signature. They even used some weird shipping company called GSO so they could get away with it. The same thing happened to my friend too. He was at work and when he got home it was sitting in front of his door. When he checked online his signature was also forged. These guys are complete scum
Well if anyone underaged has $80 bucks to blow on rum Bethesda doesn't take alcohol laws very seriously...
Just do a chargeback. You can do it if they forged your signature. That'll show the bastards.
pretty dam sure you can sue them for forging your signature
@@FrancisR420 I'm pretty sure you shouldn't just leave alcohol out on a doorstep
Get a lawyer
Don't know if anyone has mentioned it yet or not, but the worse thing really isn't the cheap arse plastic case the bottle is shipped in. It's the fact the Rum contains caramel. That's added to make the Rum look like it's aged and expensive. It's not. It's most likely the cheapest Rum they could source. I wouldn't pay 25$ for it.
Amen
It's all equally important considering that alot if people brought it for the bottle I wouldn't have expected the rum to be high quality unless it was stated
The price tag isn't for the rum, it's for the collectible bottle - which means this is still a huge ripoff. If it was in an actual black glass bottle with the Nuka fins .. well, I personally wouldn't pay $80 for that but I can understand why people might. But not this crummy plastic thing they shipped.
Anyone who expected a quality rum from bethesda deserves to lose their money. Its pure novelty
Just when I thought this scam couldn't get ANY better. Wow wee lol
Or maybe the bags are secretly canvas, and the bottles are actually the bottles, just made with graphics from a Bethesda game.
Hey you know what, open the shell Remove the bottle, close the shell and pour contents into the shell.
No Problem.
Except most the whales blubbering about this are the types that don't do the dishes.
Lunarl Mune yea cause pouring alcohol into a clamshell plastic container will end very well
@@g.weg.3723 I dunno was hoping the first comment back would be from some stupid whale who tried this
Casi Paul Sounds like someone has an old computer and can only play with the lowest graphics XD
XD
$80 for a 750 ml bottle of 35% rum is crazy expensive. At that markup they should have been able to make the damn bottle.
You know what I find funny? The hilariously motivational theme they used to display such a poor quality case. I'll stick with Funko Pops myself.
Yeah a handle only costs like 27-35 bucks I'm my area
Trying to suck up all the profits they can even if it's not legal lol they're so thick in the head. You'd think they'd learn their lesson after the duffel bag but noope.
@@oojj513 How is this not legal?
@@demetriuss6101 The legality depends on advertising and consumer protection laws in individual areas. It is generally illegal to give your customers a product that is different from what was advertised/purchased.
5$ walmart rum bottle in a 2$ black plastic casing. Totally worth 79,99$.
Seriously, someone must've pushed the self destruct button within Bethesda HQ. 🤔🤔
khayjeet they are just in chaos because they realized they can’t just sell us Skyrim every year.
I wonder if they are purposely trying to self destruct. Something is seriously wrong with the people in charge.
They did too much lollygagging with skyrim rehashes, and when people finally got tired of it they had nothing to show for the wait
khayjeet why would you say that? Didn't they make 72$ out of each single bottle sold? Isn't that, what, about 10 times the cost? What self-destruct button are you talking about? People are buying it, Bethesda is still making a MINT out of this. They're not 'failing' at all, they raking in all the money people are stupid enough to fork over for PRESALE STUFF FROM A COMPANY THAT IS KNOWN TO LIE. Because it has a faint link to fallout.
The launch codes are probably all the same at their HQ too. Only takes 3 people to crash the system 🤣🤣
That bottling video is hilarious. Like... are you kidding me? They were really that proud of these crappy bottles they that that deserved the somber piano music? Jezus Crim.
They were probably proud that they managed to scam so many people.
I saw the music in the video representing the depressing mood of the terrible quality of the product
@@ProcyonDei 😆 Can't fully argue with that. Joking aside I've always struggled what it means for something to be tone deaf. Now I finally have the perfect representation.
I sit here drinking a nice cold one made for a convention thats just 12 euro.
How that case is so bad and barely makes it possible to get a drink into a glass is really amazing. Well Bethesda is at it again.
I'm sure those 32 5-star reviews were totally legit, of course.
Fallout standards should be a meme
someone quick get a picture of the nylon bag with the caption FalloutStandards
Fallout itself should be a meme* Fixed. That's what Bethesda did with a beloved franchise.
It saddens me that a song I grew up with "Country Roads" shall now be associated with one of the worst games of all time from now on. I wish the estate of John Denver would sue Bethesda and Zenimax, for quite frankly, damaging their reputation as a result.
They will be now i promise you
I freaking hope Elder Scrolls 6 isn't up to _fallout standards._
I bet I could get that bottle made on Etsy for 20 bucks.
You could get it mass-produced for less than $5.
@@spinningchurro Are you sure? It's a pretty uniquely shaped bottle. I would have thought that would make it harder to mass-produce.
@@emberd-l795 only need a few molds and you can just pump them out like butter.
@@theMyouknow idk butter can get pretty pricey o.o
Wrong. Mass producing such a bottle would break regulations in the bottling industry. Thats the most likely reason for what happened here with nuka dark rum. The bottling industry has strict standards
I bet you it was just the plain bottle and they didn’t even make those boxes at first, then after the bag fiasco they said “Crap! It doesn’t look like the picture. Better not do that again, let’s bring it up to Fallout standards!”
It’s more fun if you spill it on your friends.
metallurgicarborist honestly that doesn’t seem like a stretch... this certainly explains the ‘delay’. Unbelievable
You probably hit the nail on the head.
I like spilling shit rum on people
I could buy 3 bottles of Captain Morgan's dark rum instead...
No shit
@@blackadder5346 or some kraken
Jack Brearley yeahhhhh kraken
I could get three 2’6 bottles of kraken for this garbage ($80 US equals about $95 CDN) come to think of it I could get a bottle grey goose for this shit
Or you could buy real rum
Fans: Things can't get any worse after the Fallout76, "canvas" bag and leaking of personal data of customers controversies.
Bethesda: Want to buy some rum?
Not to mention the game is shitty
It's you.
@@SumDumGai5 why blame him while his right.
Bethesda: Hold my rum.
"Hold my rum"
It's a Cashgrab to compensate a Cashgrab game that didn't Grab enough Cash.
Aye, and just like their cash-grab game, you don't get what was advertised. You literally, can't make this shit up.
Grabception!
But did it crash grab or grab lawyer more?
How much cash would a cashgrab grab if a cashgrab could grab cash?
Fucking amen to that
They weren't lying about the "Fallout Standards," aka the same generic things we've seen before, but worse
Fallout standards means “make it as cheap as possible so we make that mooooonay!”
Jonathan James Well, Bethesta did not write that it was Fallout standards, nor did they design or produce the bottle. It was a completly different company. And it is the other company who will earn most of the money.
LES GET THIS BREAD
Guys, don't you understand? There's a nationwide, rocket shaped bottle shortage...
Technically accurate.
Dying.
Anvillior no shortage just the texture of the bottles is a little glitched at the moment currently we are listening to feedback and are working on a patch to fix this issue
Oh God 🤣
53 people that liked your comment are dumber than you.
If it wasn't up to Fallout Standards that means the prototype was somehow worse
Guessing they forgot bottle and poured rum into case
rum in a paper bag with fallout written on it.
Well it seems to be up to Fallout 76 standards now. Initially it looked like a great product but once delivered is in fact a big let down.
Fallout standards means cheaper.
Try brittle glass that was breaking, so they went with already made wine bottles.
"Up to Fallout standards"
So they never lied?
Tell me lies...tell me sweet little lies...
When you think you loved Bethesda...but in reality you actually loved Obsidian...
@@night6724 how
@@night6724 fallout 3 had they same type of ending sure the story was went off rail but there's was Interesting places to explore and fun quests to do if the story didn't fit your fancy also there was dlcs you can play which are worth buying, sure some people didn't like the weapon degratuon but I thought it was a nice idea also most games have bugs and fallout nv has had patches, also and I agree that obsidian makes good games that require licences but is that really a bad thing.
@@night6724 Fallout new vegas has less bugs than one fourth of fallout 4
i didnt like the way new vegas ends but you dont have to play the final sequence its optional
@@night6724 I do see where your coming from and you do have a point most just jump on bandwagon from the shitty marketing and don't focus on the issue which is the game itself
_Ayy it did live up to the "Fallout Standard"._
Imagine using "Fallout Standards" in a good way. Poor Bethesda...
The rum will give you seizures (like gliches IRL).
At this point it HAS to be on purpose. I'm not even sarcastic. No single human with their right mind would think that's a good idea and no-one would complain.
I think not only is on purpose, it's serving their purpose.
Their purpose is to make publicity, no matter if it's good or bad. This also makes their next game's launch look good by comparison.
@@unocualqu1era The old, "the only bad press is no press," strategy? Yeah, I can see that. It doesn't really work as an absolute; _really_ bad press truly is bad press and it seems that these people are testing the line there, but I can almost see this being their rational.
@@scaper8 here it just feels like betsheda lost a shittons of fans and their next release will have a bad time in term of sales , and worst if the next release are even close to the same quality as fallout they'll eventually die.
Maybe they want to be bought out by China.
@@sarcasm-83 for me personally I'm not against buying new titles, but unlike before I won't buy anything from Bethesda until the game has been out for a few weeks, and I can see if they keep this shit train going or finally start to man up.
a unique take on a product that is actually just a ripoff encased in cheap plastic. what a perfect analogy for Fallout 76
Fool me twice shame on me. People just need to give up on fallout. If you're feeling nostalgic, play one of the old better games. 😀
Exactly the reason why I stick with my Fallout: New Vegas.
Wei Liang Lin same here. I just started playing the New California mod. I’d much rather play this fan-made campaign over the trash that is Fallout 76.
Fallout New Vegas is far, far better than any of the newer Fallout titles.
Or if you want something with a bit more old-school Fallout flavor with a modern sheen, try Wasteland 2.
completely agree!
I'm just surprised that people still buy merch from Bethesda.
Well, to be fair, this one isn't from Bethesda, they didn't design this bottle, Silver Screen bottle company did. Plus I don't think you can by this from the Bethesda store, I think you have to buy it from the bottle companies website.
People buy too much merch in general. It’s a guaranteed fact that if you have a following, you will sell at least a little merch. Even if it’s shit.
To be fair most people pre ordered the merch when the game was announced
@@Blitzkrieg1605 I mean, if you count art books, then... Art books. At least in my opinion.
@@Blitzkrieg1605 I think the clothes are pretty cool, a lot of the action figures look detailed.
Even Christmas day couldn't hold back more controversies surrounding fallout 76.
How else is he going to feed his family. His Bethesda videos are be a landslide his most viewed videos. Gotta hold onto that relevancy while you can.
The website that sells it is incredibly weird. Like all the reviews for this product are like 5 stars and every single one is like some quote from the game. Not even joking. It’s almost like they were like forging reviews for this for damage control. When you get the chance go read the reviews for the “Nuka Dark Rum “ on liquorama it’s weird
"Like" intensifies
I like you you went the extra mile to source info. Have a like my friend.
Holy frick it's weird. I haven't played Fallout so maybe this is just quoting it but there's like talks of Communism and shit and they're all 5 star. And there's this one guy calling everyone ignorant like wow thats some fanboying right there.
The ad read like a wiki page it's really weird
Yeah, it's really weird. You weren't kidding.
A new, custom mold to create the rocket shaped, glass bottles would have had to have been made by the bottling company. This would have been expensive to make and, most likely, impractical in the long run since this was supposed to be a limited edition item. My guess is that the bottling company was like, "Hey, Bethesda, it's gonna cost $X to make the new mold and $X for production." To which Bethesda probably said, "Yeah, we're not paying that. What else can we do?" and the bottling company said, "Well, we have a ton of regular bottles already and a mold for plastic would be way cheaper and we can just make black/white paper stickers. It would save you $X." To which Bethesda replied, "Great! Those nerds won't know the difference!", had an orgasm, and approved.
Not to mention, businesses don't advertise products to sell before cost is taken into account (cost of production being the foundation of determining what price you want to see an item for). Whatever all the options were for this product they would have had specs outlined and quotes made (most likely by more than one company) before even making the decision to proceed, let alone sell.... assuming of course anyone in the company has a lick of business sense.
On the nuka dark rum website contact page, they explicitly state that this plastic thing was 2x more expensive than if they had done it with a glass mould. Maybe they're lying? idk
@@lunaangeleclipse9745 Wow, that seems really counter-intuitive, doesn't it?
Every time I see a new Bethesda trashfire I just cackle.
Rum'll help it burn, too
This time I had the same reaction....there is not a week without a new blunder by Bethesda at this point.
For me, they are way too overrated
At this point I'm just enjoying this dumpster fire fiasco
I'm just waiting for Bethesda to collapse entirely along with Zenimax.
Waiting patiently for another Bethesda episode to see what else they’ll mess up
I would say you're maybe just being a hater but history tells me I am most definitely going to be wrong
They're now banning modders and making them write essays about why modding is bad
So is this a weekly episode type of thing or is it a monthly issue (monthly magazine issue)?
@mrgerminaro You can't really be blaming the consumer can you? Besides you're automatically assuming everyone who bought the bottle did so with the bag as well. Or even followed the news about the bags in the first place, they could have easily just got the bottle for being cheaper. Can't really assume that. Or blame consumers for a multi billion dollar company for their massive shortcomings. Imagine a kid eating tyson chicken from a grocery store, getting a severe case of salmonella and some guy online going "lol kid deserves it for buying it, loser etc."
@@namelessbacon9483 I agree with expect your example with the Tyson chicken nuggies is way off. With the bag and bottle these weren't alienated cases every bag was cheap nylon and every bottle was a fake piece of plastic. With the nuggets and the kid getting salmonella that's a 1 in like 1000 chance of happening, nothing more than bad luck. So comparing a guy who shits on people for buying a bottle that's associated with the same people that gave us shitty nylon bags, to a guy who who shits on a single kid for having bad luck with a bag of nuggies is just bogus. With the bottle situation it's fool me once fool me twice so that asshole is smart and has some justification in that sense, nuggie guy on the other hand is just a fucking asshole with no support for his attitude.
*JESUS CHRIST, IT NEVER ENDS!*
Silver lining people like yong and laymen and peeps have a steady income XD
@@79thinline lol true
The quake hoodie is another one
Burn me once, shame on you. Burn me 37 times, shame on me 😶
Tis' the gift that keeps on giving.
If you want a Fallout souvenir just go to Etsy and support a fellow fan.
A fellow fan who puts 90% more effort into the product.
What’s etsy
a site where people create and sell custom nick nacks and items like cups and things of the sort.
@@koldolmen5837 Etsy is a marketplace for creatives of all sorts. Some people sell Cosplay some sell Accessories. www.etsy.com/search?q=fallout
@@fenrirj.hanson1797 I gotta agree. Stuff looks like it came straight from the game.
watch it be plastic
EDIT: And i am not suprised.
and rum be dog piss
Wouldn't be surprised either.
I work in Fulfillment (on the IT side) and I can tell you that I'm pretty sure I know exactly what happened. Frankly, this started as a failure in administration compounded by a failure in marketing facing a fault in engineering and a lossy product.
Take the 'classic nuka-cola bottle shape'. Let us say that the fulfillment company had originally intended to fulfill the product as a custom glass bottle. Unfortunately, that bottle comes with multiple points of failure in shipping - in fact, it's quite likely that the delay was caused by outsourcing the bottle & label creation to a custom job from a certain country. While the prices are great, the quality is... less so. Or worse yet, the quality was fine, but when they received the shipment due to (classic cost cutting by said companies) the bottles arrived in a ~75% failure state. Chipped glass, broken wings, fried labels, etc.
So, now the company is scrambling to come up with an alternative, because they were already running under tight margins due to the niche nature of the product. In a moment of desperation, an engineer points out that 3d-printing can churn out facades in a short period of time - no need to spend high dollars on molds. Additionally, as they are already a bottling company, bog-standard glass booze bottles are cheap and easily sourced.
Of course, the could have had the option of re-negotiating the contract w/Bethesda, or at least definitely should have. Frankly, if I was Bethesda I'd have thrown them a loaner for getting a source along with a rider saying that all the people who pre-ordered the stuff would get full disclosure (maybe some social media unboxing vids of the busted bottles for humor!) and possible a nice box of chocolates as a 'we're sorry' gift since the delays would push them past X-mass. Of course, Bethesda treats their contractors like shit and are horrible to work with - just ask Obsidian - while demonstrating a certain blindness towards actual effective PR.
So, yeah, I could have seen this coming a mile away. It really does fit the current Fallout quality standards - a bad idea to start, plagued with engineering failures and exacerbated by a management team who doesn't think that this is really going to hurt their company that badly.
Which, if the next couple games are awesome... it might not, considering how slipshod and cheap everything involved has been. Spending comparatively little on Fallout 76's everything makes the 'losses' less of an issue... oh wait, never mind.
I forgot that the most pricey part of video-game development nowadays is advertising.
Im pretty sure they never bothered to organise anything until they had an idea of the orders - when they saw it would be a low run - they didnt bother organising even a boutique production company would have had extremely low fail rate - they just said "ahhhh, fuck it"
its not even 3d printed, its injection molding
@@henryettoit897 i think he referred to the prototype for the injection mold
it says make a comment not a thesis dam
If this is true then why do people (both creators and consumers) not realize they can *WAIT* until it is finished.
“Why is all the rum gone?” Because Bethesda drank it all before shipping it while looking at Fallout 76 sales numbers.
Oof
"That's not good enough!"
Nah they were drinking it while making the game!Why else would a company release a unfinished game to their supporters and fanbase???
@@MixitMashit
OOF
I can picture Captain Jack Sparrow saying that lol.
There must have been a glass shortage
WinkyDaGecko I don’t think they plan to do anything about it
There is no shortage of sand anywhere, i mean im no glass blower but how hard would it be to actually make the bottle how its supposed to be designed in mass production i wonder.
Believe it or not glass is really fucking expensive when you have to make custom orders like this. Why do you think custom glass vases, small or large, cost so much? Don't forget that this is a bottling company and not a glass forging or blowing company so they can't make the bottles themselves.
For the usd price tag requested, would it cover such expanses normally?
@@debbyolivier5122 For mass production, sure maybe if they choose the right company to outsource to. And also, sand comes in varying qualities. Normal beach sand would make for a terrible glass sand due to all of the impurities in the sand itself.
They think we can't do worse?
-Hold my rum!
It almost feels like someone is intentionally trying to ruin them from the inside. Did Todd say something about circumcision or the Federal Reserve before Fallout 76's release?
At least the plastic bottle matches the plastic bag.
Must've been a glass shortage somewhere.
Do you often get compared to Drax the Destroyer?
Remember guys. NO PREORDERS !! :D
Not preordering things is good praxis.
There will always be people braindead enough to pre-order stuff like this.
just Boycott Bethesda.. much better
@@LexYeen preordered GOW and Spider-Man PS4. Worth. N O R A G R E T S
@Daniel von Strangle in its defense the microtransactions were added in the very end and the game was not artifically made grindy as the release date was solidified. Just a small fact, fuck microtansactions for anything but F2P games.
I ordered a PREY limited edition lithograph last year from the Bethesda store in like idk, April or May. Didn't show up until like July after several emails. No update, nothing. Almost forgot I had ordered it. Their online store and service sucks.
atleast yo got what you paid for
TheNinjaGuyDon damn they got you good
That’s what your tracking number is for...
@@SickMuffens You missed the "no update, nothing" part of his comment.
@@SickMuffens Don't get a tracking # until after it ships. I ordered it, paid and got an email confirming this. But they just never shipped it until I emailed them several times asking what's up? They told me they were running behind on production (must have been a paper shortage). It was one of only 300 so not like it's hard to manage that quantity. 2 months later they shipped it. This is a common theme with them I see.
I am just baffled with Bethesda this year, holy shit
Stop giving them money!
Solkefra Bethesta does not get much money from it. It is an other company that makes this bottles. You have to learn that Bethesta only makes games, not freaking soda!
Hanna Kristoffersen - I’m going to just assume you’re internet trolling and don’t actually believe anything you just wrote. If in the off chance you are actually serious, please look up how licensing works and don’t be so naive as to think that the NFL doesn’t make much money on the Jerseys they sell ... because they play football and don’t make clothing.
@@TwinklingMysticShot Imagine defending Bethesda
I get what i paid dor. Being fucked.
hahahaha .... holy shit this is getting to the dark side of comedy. How is this many failures in a row even possible ,even by luck they should have succeeded at least once.
Bad RNG 🤣🤣🤣
Seriously do they have new leadership or something? I mean, this is just ridiculous lol
Wait wait the next video will by about gamers banned for use graphics mods to fix the game
i heard their luck stat and intelligence stat is very low Todd said he wants to do a butcher build lmao
They keep rolling natural 1s on buisness ventures since Howard alone has a luck modifier of -10000 due to the following effect:
CEO of Bethesda Studios
Self destruct: *activated*
New objective added: *survive*
I was gonna leave a comment but it didn’t meet Fallout Standards
What, ... you couldn't squeeze a thousand bugs and glitches into it?
It was not up to fallout standards. Wasent cheap enough
Lmao
@@sportosellout Suttel
Fool me once, I'm mad;
Fool me twice, how could you;
Fool me three times, your officially that guy ok.
You know the one.
I'd rather literally burn $80 than give it to Bethesda ATM...
Definitely more entertaining.
Ass to mouth? Edit: oh I get it now. Woosh....
Chris Watson hahahaha that certainly is a creative way to see the acronym.
It is not Bethesta who made or designes the Nylon bag or the Nuka Dark bottle. It is two sister companies who Bethesta had much fait in, but who tottaly failed at their job.
80 dollars per one and they can't even make a custom bottle? Cutting costs where they can, i see
More like they wanted to rip people off to begin with, someone thought to themselves let's put a $10 bottle of cheap rum with a crap label into an even cheaper plastic case and sell it for an outrageous price, because these dumbass fans will eat it up. This company sucks.
Even Ommegang Brewery and their Game of Thrones lines of beer don't mark up as much as that. And they have custom labels and brews.
This is a travesty, in that I can pay less than $40 for premium rum that has been aged almost 2 decades, with a spectacular taste profile and no gimmick.
@@Flufferz626 Well, this rum has been aged too! Can't say for how long, that depends on traffic. But it's absolutely the finest rum that one can buy for, um, the absolute lowest price at which bulk rum is available.
@@mikewhitfield2994 what do you bet it is actually Kraken rum, or Capt Morgan black? Gross. I'll take El Dorado or Zaya or a plethora of other rums for less than half the price kthx.
Flufferz626 I’m guessing it’s Old Reject or maybe Major Dregs.
I have lost count of how many times I thought to myself "This disaster cannot possibly go on any longer".... and yet here we are. Blunder after blunder after blunder. This is a saga for the ages. This probably won't be the end either, I wonder what the next Fallout/Bethesda blunder will be? Any guesses anyone?
www.reddit.com/r/Fallout/comments/a8wbn5/players_are_getting_banned_from_fo76_for_using/
They will probably try and sell a Roomba in a plastic Mr. Handy shell and call it "Superior Pre War Fallout Cleaning Technology," for $1500
This started to feel almost deliberate about 3 or 4 blunders ago, as if they are trying to completely destroy whatever good faith their player base had in them. I have no idea why they would do this but watching Bethesda and Fallout 76 right now is like watching somebody having a mental breakdown right in front of you.
I just hope Doom Eternal and Rage 2 get out ok at this point. I could care less about Starfield or ES6. But if it does come to the company failing I will miss Fallout.
Looks like someone complained about how much it was going to cost to make the bottles and decided to cut corners to save money. So stupid.
Well, this is definitely up to fallout standards.
Nuked into a complete crash.
"Fallout standards" soooooo, they made it worse?
*bottle starts clipping through the floor*
76 likes. Lol.
yea when then say "Fallout standards" they mean Fallout 76 standarts and making this bottle form class will be way up high so they make it plastic shit !!!
Hey at least it just work tho
IT NEVER ENDS! Please Bethesda, take another dump on your loyal customers. These people need to learn eventually.
How's it taste? Comparable flavor to any other common rums? I'm trying to figure out where, exactly, this rum is sourced.
Its probably dyed water 😂
@@icblundell60 hahaha! I wouldn't be surprised, buddy!
I'm tempted to buy one to test the quality, but no matter what I lose. Either it's decent rum that I spent $80 on, when I could have gotten literally 2 gallons of decent rum for $83. Or it's shit rum that I paid $80 for and now I have a flimsy plastic shell I could have made in a 3d printer myself for like a dollar.
It is probably the cheapest version of a rum, just look at the helmet plastic bags...
@@BergenDev the helmet was top notch quality ...
Is it bad that I'm excited every morning to see what Bethesda did wrong today? It's as predictable as the sunrise.
It has became my weekly dose of drama. It's a drug to me at this point
It is a daily meme at this point.
Fallout Standards = the material costs for the product have to be low, the profit margin has to be as high as possible
In my opinion, the rocketshaped bottle was too expensive to make. Just like the bag.
nah wasn't too expensive, there was just a glass shortage
Or they had shortage of glass!
#thegreatcanvasfamine2018
#thegreatglassfamine2018
2018 the year of the Canvas shortage. Also the year, where Sand was impossible to get, to make glass. Just LOL
I've got more joy out of Fallout 76 then any other game this year and I haven't even played it. Game of the year without a doubt no game has ever been this funny
Agreed!
And they said the game is overpriced,see how much its provide everyone with the entertainment see Bethesda crash and burn for free.
@WalkingPromissoryNote 1963 that's cool i payed $85 for the preorder then they dropped the price to $40 after the first week of release that's the biggest bullshit I've ever experienced
Harry Hardwick what a jerk
How much did todd howard pay you to write that OP?
How did that bottle receive 5 stars on the website ? Are the reviews even real?
Bethesda's cocksuckers
Probably what there doing with the money. Paying the workers to write em
Wow I know right!? Enjoying the drink for it's quality and not that it's not glass! Pure insanity!
+phoogles Dude no normal person or one who is experienced with drinks is gonna give a good review over a 80 dollar drink that comes in a cheap plastic bottle. If you’re gonna make something that expensive, at least make it unique. I can buy some Vodka that’s shaped like a fucking Skull for 50 dollars at my local store. I ain’t blowing 80 bucks on a cheap bottle no matter how good it tastes.
@@uhoh6706 exactly, what make expensive alcohol expensive isn't just the quality of the beverage, but the design of the bottle and quality of the material
Everyone: "Bethesda can't do anything bad again"
Bethesda: "Hold my Nuka Cola"
Teo it’s rum
''Hold my Nuka Cola, it's dark outside''
"Hold my Nuka Rum."*
@@redacted144 *Bethesda* : I'LL TELL YOU ITS COLA! See it's rrrru-ruu *hic* Ru-cola! See I told you it's *urp* col-Hic! Cola Shipped let's see that *hic* fallout 47 or whatever-it's...
*collapses*
And with this, I think I’m going to complete the process of identity change. It’s been nice selling Nuka-Cola to you all. Fuck Bethesda
Nah. Bethesda knew. I used to work in product design for a bottling company. Special orders only begins production after both parties agree on the final product. We always offered unique designed bottles but costs blow through the roof and only big companies would accept this kind of deals. Most of them go for the traditional bottle catalog and pretty much just pay for a label. As someone that worked on that market I can say that Bethesda did not got for the cheaper option and went for the dollar above the average to get the plastic casing. As for the rum quality, I'm not familiar with Silver Screen but is rare for a bottle company to use the cheapest alcohol for custom orders. I'm going to order one, if the rum is a decent quality I might even say that it was a "fairish" deal. If not, I would agree with you for 80 dlls you can get a ton of good quality alcohol
A special order of custom glass bottles won't be cheap. When they found out how expensive it would cost, some smartass probably had the bright idea of slapping on a plastic casing instead. "The fans won't notice the difference!!!". It's most likely a case of "hey, it's cool idea for a collector's item!", but they didn't do the research beforehand to get an estimate of the production cost.
YaayTime it would be cool if we got a follow up from you haha!
If it cost more in production, bump the price up. Simple. Collectors special brands and lmtd Ed etc branded spirits are usually 150+ in price
Just gonna leave this comment here so I'm notified if you give us an update
That's cool of you bro, thanks :)
I didn’t realize a specially designed, plastic bottle is worth $80. I’m in the wrong business.
Bethesda fans be like: y'all haters a company needs money to sustain itself duh!
Yeah dude 80 fucking dollars for garbage.
They need to pay the company making the bottles, in addition to making a return on the product. Of course it's going to be over-priced garbage. If you want something special, make it yourself. I'm not trying to defend Bethesda, mind you. I'm just stating the facts.
Yo for real tho
Hydra Jamm 😂😂
Bethesda should ask Coca-Cola or Pepsi to make the whole line of Nuka-cola products, nuka cherry , quantum, victory and wild yes this would be more expensive for Bethesda but it would also be a GIANT step in repairing relations with the community
Kicker is for the price they charged they could have had actual handblown glass bottles.
I have made molded casts before! Glass bottles can be casts the same way into a unique way!!! Bethesda didn't even go the length to even make a glass bottle, what a shame in there part.... Complete BS
What can you expect for $80?
@@2girls1cuphead one unique glass battle from this franchise! Hell I could casts one if I really wanted too. After that the rest is easy some Rum, bottle cap, label
@@abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz4839 you could probably find something on etsy with better quality and price
I would kill to see what the component not up to the Fallout standard was.
Probably Fallout 76.....
actual effort
it was that probably they first tried to do the actual glass bottle but it had too much quality in it so they downgraded it
Actual uranium: Bethesda sent a free sample to all of their critics to cull them.
@@callumcasey9156 At least it would be accurate...
Lucrative means to generate profit, so I guess the bottle is lucrative, but not for the customers.
Doing a little extra legwork, I got in touch with a liquor company that ordered a bunch of these and initially put it on their website for preorders. Long story shortish, their demo bottle was the same PoS plastic snap cover, and they were extremely disappointed in the rum to boot, noting it's awful, cheap and flavored like coconut. For what they paid, they cancelled the order outright as they couldn't possibly charge more on top of their rate and ever expect to hold themselves accountable. Even a cursory glance at any image they used other than a full frontal shot, you can totally tell the seam was edited out. If that doesn't scream bait and switch or false advertising, I don't know what the hell else qualifies.
Like I said to another commentor on another video, they (Bethesda) licensed their name/invention on the tie-in and took the money. They sure as hell ought to get or keep themselves in the loop, but as I'm sure we're all aware, I doubt they can spare a body for more PR exposure.
Really nice work man.
YongYea, can you please pin this commment? ^
@@NodDisciple1 maybe pin when the source info is given...
What a hero
Yet another example of a company not knowing their role.
Best Christmas gift ever: A Yong Yea video.
indeed, merry christmas
Yong Yea discussion
I was pleasantly surprised.
Daniel D But just how Asian, do you think YongYea is though?
Daniel D Lol
EA: I'm so proud of you, my son.
Someone sounds like a divorced wife.
Can’t wait to find out who the guy who left them was
Caaa schhee caa scheee. That’s what Vader was telling them. Cash cash. It’s SO OBVIOUS NOW!!!
Those last couple of seconds in the "shipping" video is like a huge plot twist being revealed in a movie lol
Wonder if the influencers got a glass bottle.
Yong edition
You mean a molotov cocktail? :D
For free too!
Give it a few years and this will be number one on a bunch of ‘top 10 games that destroyed the companies reputation’ especially if things continue as they are.
Paging Guru Larry... LOL
And if Bethesda has screwed up this bad with a Fallout game, then I am already dreading what's going to spring up around Elder Scrolls 6...
Number 15, burger 15 foot lettuce
Gaming comminity: "HOW MANY TIMES DO WE HAVE TO TEACH YOU THIS LESSON OLDMAN!"
Shelton Bryant if you can fix your spelling then we'll side with you. ;p
@@robertsunrobert4541 Fallout stander
Gaming Company: Is it me? Am I so out of touch?.........No, it is the Gamers that are to blame
I like the young people.
50 Year Old Execs: I like the young people
My face just fell when I saw that plastic casing open. My gawd lol They could’ve taken that same shot of the bottle advertised with the case open, revealing the real bottle inside. They didn’t. Never even stated it would be encased. False advertising? Absofuckinglutely!!
Why is everone complaining? they clearly stated its fallout quallity
Saying something here