DIY 35MPH Trek Electric Bike Conversion | 1000W E-Bike Kit
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 ส.ค. 2020
- After installing the Voilimart 1000W Rear Wheel DIY e-bike Kit from eBay on my old trek mountain bike, i review the overall kit and the process of installing all of the components. I also show the performance of the kit, with overall uphill speed exceeding expectations and top speed hitting almost 35 mph.
Voilimart Kit: www.ebay.com/itm/Electric-Bic...
Battery: www.ebay.com/itm/48V-12-5Ah-H...
Crank Puller: www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07...
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Saw you got it up to 32 there for a bit! Pretty fast for a bicycle. Nice build. I have the same one on the way for my old Trek. Thanks for the info.
Just ordered mine it looks simple enough to do. I've have watched a couple of videos it looks doable. Thanks for the extra info 👍
Gotta come back tell us how it went when they arrive
how is it after 2 months?
IF YOU BOUGHT THAT BATTERY YOU GOT SCAMMED ITS FOR 500W NOT 1000W
How did it go?
@@remyllebeau77 not to steal away, I got this notification and I just finished my 2nd bike. Etrike this time. My 1st bike is on my youtube channel, just gettin started!
Had a couple of e bikes. I'm ready to do a conversion. Just picked up a trek 820 for the platform. Thanks for a great video.
Great video 😎 Ebike kits are so simple now!
Never expected to find a voilamart kit with the exact same bike as mine so a few tips picked up there thanks!
Yes, great video! I've had mine for a year and it's still working great! i don't have the LCD screen, and i have a front motor not the back. My model will max out at 42mph, it's insane and better than driving since I live in the city. Thanks for your content!
Hi, which kit, motor and battery you use? Thank you
I'm trying to convert a 2019 trek slash 9.8 any recommendations?
I had this kit and some feature does not work as expected.
1. Led rail is pass through from your battery. You cant turn on off from the lcd by holding up button
2. PAS mode is delay, and sometime output full speed at level 2, 3 and such.
3. Both throttle and PAS works regardless what you sat in the setting 0,1 or 2
I’m super impressed
The pedel assist sensor does not tell the controller how fast you are pedeling and then in turn, determine how much power to send to the motor. Its there only to sense movement. The PAS setting you have it set at determines how much power is sent to the motor while the PAS is sensing movement.
Just bought a 1000w rear wheel voilamart that came with bullet battery connector, what type of battery connector did you use on that battery? thanks.
Your kit is actually approximately $278.00 I don't know if that's what you paid at the time you bought it but that's what it is now which is a great price for everything you get when I was buying the kits when they first came out Violamart, was selling them for a little under $300 and you didn't get the LCD so this is a great price and I will be purchasing this kit very soon.
These kits ('Voilamart' are simply drop shippers who put their own name on the kit, many sellers sell exactly the same gear under different names) are quite simple to install, helps if you have a bit of experience repairing bikes but no engineering background is needed, and for most of the kit, the only tools you need are a set of allen keys, screwdrivers, pliers, possibly mole grips/wrench if the back wheel nut is rusted on, and a small socket for the protective junction box (you can pick these up at poundland or supermarkets).
There are only 2 problems that occur during installation - the first is the pedal assist sensor, that requires you to take the crank (the bit of metal that connects the pedal to the bike) off, which often requires a large automotive-grade socket set, which is extremely expensive professional-grade gear.
The second is the connection between the battery and the kit. As you are buying the battery separate from the kit, and there are many different types of battery kit (heilong, silverfish, generic heatshrinked 18650s), it usually happens that the kit and battery have completely different connectors, which means you have to snip them off and put the connectors you want on - meaning either soldering or crimping.
A crank puller can be had for less than $20.
@@Jo060 yes the crank puller itself is cheap, but there is often a nut that you need to take off to get to the crank, and because it is encased in the crank housing you cannot just use pliers.
Can you do an update about how the ebike kit is holding up? Just wondering, because I have the same basic bike and am going to make it an ebike. Thanks!
Would like to convert my trek 3900. Yours looks exactly the same as mine. I realize there are differences. Mine also has integrated brake and shifter...prolly same one. I applaud your ingenuity. I would kind of like a more integrated or separate solution for the brakes. Your video brought this to my attention that I would need to figure this out. I guess I would need to buy separate shifters to match gear configuration front and back separate from brakes? Anyway. I am still looking around. thanks.
I had the same problem I just cut off the levers of the brakes then installed the ones that came with the kit and pushed them up against the shifters if done right nobody can tell a difference
Awesome kit
Hey will the front wheel 1000w conversion kit perform the same as your setup, or is the rear wheel kit better?
oh darn, I don't think I'll be able to do this as I don't have an engineering background. Can you help me @TechRoundUp?
Can i upgrade to disk brakes with this kit on this bike i have a trek 4500 basically the same bike?
Torque arms are often overlooked, I installed one on my bike even though it is a steel frame and not aluminium.
ALSO INSTALLED WRONG 50% TIME the torque for 1000w is extremely little less than 500w geared hub... avoid front motor is best advice . good torque arms need proper installed than helps
@@travis938 I just build.another ,.this.time aluminium frame , 1000w dd hub on the rear and I still used 2 torque arms bolted to the frame.
I've been watching and researching kits I have a 4500 treck just like you're 4300 I was wondering if it would work on my bike and it looks like it will thanks for your time. Peace from Stan the Alaskan.
I got the 1500w kit with internal controller and I have over 4000miles on it without ANY problem whatsoever!!! I highly recommend this kit. I can go 39.9mph and I get a range of about 40-60 miles out of a charge with my 54v battery..
All water proof connectors, plug and play EVERYTHING, I built the whole thing in about an hour and a half and it's one of the best vehicles Ive ever owned.. Doesn't make a sound and is way faster then the average 50cc scooters that "try" to race me.. and a few go- karts as well
@@maxpower001 how did you get battery with 40 amp continuous output.... suitable for 1500w??? the ones on ebay are china crap for 500w max
@@travis938 54v 13ah seems to work fine, $300 battery
@@maxpower001 mine not even 20 mph
Did your LED on/off (holding arrow up) work? My headlight stays on no matter what unless i unplug the battery. Also, does the P10 setting work? Mine has both PAS and throttle works regardless mode 0,1 or 2
Nice job dats how a kit should look
What about a bike with hydraulic break leavers/breaks ?
How effective are those rim brakes on your ebike?
2 things to say, I have the same kit and I have not yet added the pedal assist feature because I didn’t have the tool, and I also use a different 15ah battery from eBay, and I consistently get like 30 mph and at least 20 miles range
I have the same bike same kit and same batery, but i have problem with the pedal sensor, is look too short, i dont know how to put it proper, it is coming out when i ciclyng
What about adding a torque arm to the rear hub/motor.1000 watts generates a lot or torque.
can u turn on the bike without the lcd meter thing
Can someone help me? I've just purchased this Kit and it's still in It's box, waiting for the battery, I'm very new and very Inexperienced In fixing up bikes but I'm going to have a go at it, I have a road/hybrid bike to fit the kit to. However my brakes are Cantilever and I see that this Kit has 2 Brake connectors from the Controller, I've read that when the brakes are applied that it will cut out the motor.. can I use my existing brakes for this or do I need to upgrade my brakes to Disc Brakes?
Can you help and advise? Many Thanks, Jeff
Hey. I would say use the new brakes. If not, you might face issue where your brake has to work much harder because the motor still spin when you are not 100% stop throttling
Dies your bike make a Sound ?
Like my voilamart bike didnt make Adonis at all But now it does a wheeee Sound when ride
Nice video. I'm considering the front version instead of the rear. Any comments on why I shouldn't would be appreciated. Rick
Rear gives you bit more power, but the front can be a little more risky when it comes to handling and braking
Front i dont think has paddle assistance
Front forks are weaker and may break esp if aluminium.
Front wheel is prone to spinning and could cause a fall.
Steering will feel a bit odd maybe with the weight.
Back wheel isnt too hard to do, I did mine no problem with very basic tools and knowledge.
Can anyone help-- I have 1 rear wheel eletric bike wheel and the wire for the back wheel keeps getting Ming smashed between the frame , anyone can help me problem solve
Can I put this on my beach cruiser
How come my hub kit does not go 30 mph when it's a thousand watt 48 volt and I have thousand watt battery 48h
What is the width of tire it comes with (e.g. 26x1.75, 26x2, etc.) ?
I believe it’s 26 x 1.95
Different solution to installing the cut off brakes with the kit. I ended up making the brake sensors for hydraulic brakes to solve the problem and keep the original integrated brake levers. Good job though, love my Voilamart
How did you do this?
@@russellpressman1631 Here's a short video that shows you the basics. These kits cost about £10-20.
th-cam.com/video/bGosopxGJN8/w-d-xo.html
been wanting to do this for a long long time, but dont have the money.
Brian y0u what is the total cost ?
Any update on how long it’s lasted or running to date?
im a big sweaty fat f*** should i go for the 1500w instead? 😂i have an old apollo gradient mtb with 26" inch rims in mint condition that i havent used in years and woukd benefit from one of these kits. probably go for at least a 48v 17.5ah and upwards. your thoughts please 👍
You don't need to do the pedal assist that's just if you want your battery to last longer batteries last up to 3 years maybe only two if you don't use your pedals but what's the idea of an e-bike so you don't have to pedal
Long term how has the kit held up???
is this a 24 speed bike?
I want to put the front wheel version on my Schwinn Frontier mountain bike, I think it's a 26" tire and a pretty standard frame. Any reason it may not work? Thanks for any info if you got it
should be fine mate
Sometimes you have to file a millimetre out the dropouts but that's easy, don't forget to use steel bottomed forks not magnesium or alloy.
what type of connector does the controller use to go to the battery? (xt60, anderson)?
I just got a 1500w kit, not sure if they differ in connectors but mine came with ring connectors.
I got a back bike rack and put everything in there doesn't even look like a need like except for the hub cop looked right at me just kept driving
Hi
Did came with the battery or we have to buy separately?
Separate, at least for the kit I purchased
What is the maximum speed per hour? and how many km of autonomy using only electricity, without pedaling?
Max speed is 30mph and around 20-30km on battery power alone
@@TechRoundUp that makes no sense. Kmh is slower than mph lol
Thought you were looking for range in km 😜
@@TechRoundUp is that 30mph with strictly motor power? No using the pedals?
Thanks for sharing this video. I am also converting a old Trex mountain bike with the same kit.
Please tell me how it goes, im looking to do so too but i dont have any experience in engineering bikes so i feel like i will be unable to do it!
I love my 55v 13ah 1000w rear kit, it is a ROCKET 🚀 SHIP
How fast do u go on pedal assist and throttle only
can i buy this kit off amazon or just ebay
Is this a 135mm rear dropout bike frame? All fits good?
Yes, dropout rear wheel, and all fits really well
Make sure to by the torque arm
I have the same system but without a LCD easier to hook up less wires The twist throttle just tells you how much battery you have no speedometer but for 220 bucks 1500 watts
I find mine isn’t fast
Can you send a link where you bought your kit?
@@awstech6217 alot are sold as 1500 watt kits but are actually the 1000 watt kit or even worse the 500 watt kit .
The speedo is not calibrated correctly, it runs about 10-12% slower than shown as measured vs. gps. That being said it it has been reliable and nearly silent vs. the fat tire bikes running geared hubs which make a ton of noise.
In some states you do need a license for an a bike believe it or not well the ones that are only 350 w I believe those are legal you don't need a license they only go 19 mph
How long does a single charge last?
Around 25-40mi depending on use of the electric motor and pedal assist
Do you have an installlation video on this bike?
Sadly, no. Was so caught up in putting it together, so it was difficult to film
Are you able to remove the battery to charge?
The battery is separate from the kit. If you buy a Heilong style battery (which is what this video shows) then yes, the battery is removable, and the carrier and wire stays on the bike.
Nice kit don't get a cheap one mine doesn't have lcd just trottle 1500 voilamart 1500 watt battery I'm set
I'm waiting for my kit to arrive. In the meantime can I download the instruction manual from the net?
I believe you should be able to, but I don’t have the link
Hey Tech Round UP, I got the same bike setup to a T. 48v voilamart kit compatible downtube hailong battery. I didnt know about the aluminum copper connection situation. So Ive hooked it up and it wont run. can you help me troubleshoot this?
You might need a voltmeter to measure voltage from the battery, etc to see where the problem might lie
@@TechRoundUp is there a possibility I could shorted the circuitry by connecting the two units?
Connecting to the battery shouldn’t have cause any damage, unless connected with positive to ground and ground to positive. The battery protection should have kicked in however
@@TechRoundUp Thanks man!
May sound really simple, but wire it all up, and try holding down the power off button on the lcd screen for a few seconds. I had the multimeter out for hours trying to figure what was wrong before I did this!
how is the braking ? im guessing rim brakes?
Yup, rim brakes and they work great
@Tech Round Up hi. One of the difficulties for me...not so much now...but I'm still learning... Is how to match the battery to the DIY kit. Since they come as separate items I am thinking that you have to have some sort of understanding of current and voltage In order to appropriately match the battery with the DIY kit. I don't know if I missed it in the video but what Are the specs on the battery that you purchased please? I actually went to the link that you have in the description but it is nowhere to be found. Thanks
It of course depends on the motor kit you buy and how long you want the battery to be able to last, but I went with a 48v 13Ah battery. As long as the voltage matches the motor and the battery says it supports the wattage, it will have enough amperage to support
Do you get different power assist level as mine only one full power
Yes different pedal assist levels, being fed off of the sensor
@@TechRoundUp must be my controller I've tryed all settings only getting one power level 1 to 5
I have same battery
The instructions that come with this kit are bloody awful. I bought a front wheel drive to go on my home built trike. It was a real experience to build character. I am a retired engineer mechanic, and this was a challenge because I did not expect the torque produced. The instructions do not tell you how to mount the special washers, and I had the wheel tear out of the fork twice, tearing up the cables before I figured it out. I then changed to a heavy duty fork and ground the fork to fit the axel and washers, then I made a retaining torque arm to prevent the motor from going a different direction than the rest of the bike. You have to be careful. It produces a lot of power, but is kind of poopy on steep hills. Still and all, this is a great thing to try, and cheaper than a new electric, although you can now buy a new electric bike for USD1750.
@will kinh The plain washer goes on first, then the frame/fork, then the washer with the tab on the outside. The tab is critical, and is supposed to be, I guess, a substitute for a torque arm. The tab needs to be set into the axle slot, up against the lawyer tabs so it is trapped in there. The frame might have to be filed out to fit everything; just be careful to not make the slot too wide. I would also suggest a torque arm if you can get one.
Another bicycle enthusiast showing us why everyone hates when their on the road. 8:35 9:03
I didn't get no LCD with mine the guy from ebay is telling me to Short circuit K2 and gnd anybody know anything he said that will get me my 30 mph
How do you know if the battery and controller will be compatible?
Most batteries will be listed as 1000w and then just need to make sure it’s 48v
@@TechRoundUp ok. so just make sure the voltage matches up? I was thinking of getting a 52v battery.
@@TechRoundUp most lie ... 5 china cells is 500w max not 1000w you got scammed... surpise it doesnt cut out anytime u throttle are you 100lb and never full throttle ? or never full throttle when battery under 50% ?: lol ... ALL YOU NEED DO IS READ CONTINUOUS OUTPUT the battery said 20amp for 30 second max.... meaning 26 amp waaay too much especially long use.... the needed is 30 amp continuous output for 1000w
@@travis938 'China cells' usually just means 2500mah rather than 3500mah cells - most heilong sellers wont scam you, just to get the same continuous output and amphourage needs more cells, so they are heavier.
Its not like general 18650 bulk sellers and thier '9000 mah' ultrafire cells that actually read 500mah or less....
@@Debbiebabe69 ya LOTS more for same output...
so you need for 1000w like something that dont even fit in a triangle bag
Plug and play
I know I should have got that kind instead
35 downhill is crazy fast on a bike, takes forever to brake
I do on avg 56 kmh on my 2014 trek x caliber 8 g2 geometry frame & forks with a 27 spd on 29" tires...Gary Fisher
Most push bikes will easily do 30mph down hill
Lol it's collared wire to wire he is making it seem hard so easy a kid good do it don't hook up the back brake to shut you only need front you wount b able to do wheelies oh go 20 ah
Now the 8000 watt bike kits are usually powerfull enough to destroy the chains & gears... exspensive too...
Not exactly green unless a wind generator or creek water turbine generator is used to power the bikes battery.
If like me you're 6' 2' 240 pounds it'll go 15 miles if you're lucky
My tire is fine save the old one
how did your bike conversion go?
Luna is the only place to buy a battery. Any thing from Ebay / China is a ripoff.
Just go my kit installed and does about 30miles
Mph30
@@evananthonybaez did you use the battery and kit he linked?
@@xxdigbyzzxYT yes the kit and battery cost like 600 on Amazon. The best investment ever
@@evananthonybaez on amazon? He linked ebay
Can I reach out to u for some help ?
You were all good until you said you were an engineer. I would have just kept that to myself…. 😉😅😂
Lmao, fair assessment
Trust me. I’m an engineer.
Lol, not my best advice
You can get a 1500 for $20 more and they go 34 mph the batteries are expensive
Run smaller batteries in series
It's only a few wires you don't need to hook everything up do some research first
Eventually, you WILL hit the pavement....with no gloves, you will be in for a world of hurt.
Disagree , there are quite a few good brands out there , Luna is one of the good ones though.
you do know that this bike is illegal in the UK......
Illegal to ride on the public highway. Not illegal to own. Same as hoverboards/escooters/eskateboards/segways. But with these, they usually have a jumper you can cross to make them 'UK road legal' (obviously you take the jumper out once the cops are out of sight ;) )
Everything is illegal in the UK
after buying kit like this i can say its garbage , motor is too heavy , you can get better performance buying geared 750w kit ,torque is same and top speed is same and weight is almost half of 1000w . I dont want to talk about battery consumption which this motor eats like insane . Dont reccoment anybody buying direct drive bikes when there are plenty of small geared yet powerfull motors . i have samsung 48v 40.ah battery and 1000w without pedal assist will eat it so fast. 1000w with wheel weighs about 7 kg while 750w weights about 4.1kg . Some brands have even lighter 750w like 3.6kg with rim.
It costs $0.07 to charge battery where I live, so I don't worry too much about battery consumption. I also live 2.5 miles from work.