Which is your favorite? Drop a comment and let us know! 🤘🏼This video took us weeks to film, and put Justin's bike through a lot! If you enjoyed it, please consider subscribing, sharing, liking and all that jazz!
Definitely not lost on me how much work you went through to show us these results. I think I speak for many when I say how much we respect your professionalism, Chris. Thanks, again. Eric in Kissimmee.
Dude I hate changing exhausts. This is a whole lot of work/time to make this video. This is invaluable for someone looking to upgrade their setup. Great job guys!
I know a lot of work went into making this video. We appreciate you Chris for putting in all the work and Justin for donating your bike to take all of the abuse.
There were so many times during this video where I just laid my head back against my desk chair, closed my eyes, and just listened. Had a smile on face, just enjoying the sound. What a wonderful video to help my get through another sick day! And it certainly helped ease my desire to ride, but only barely! Ain't no substitute for my own bike!
Great video and break down. A lot of companies only show their one-off dyno results of their product and not back to back with competitors. Area under the curve is so important because that's where power differences are actually felt from one product to another.
D&D Vtec kicks in bro!! SPC all day long though. Flat torque throughout the rev range is NICE! That's a sweet pipe. You should do some 2-2 pipes vs the 2-1's so people can really understand what's going on here, to show the benefits of a good exhaust system.
That SPC exhaust is the big bore, not the lanesplitter, if anyone was wondering. You can tell by the extra section welded in between the collector and the muffler. I have the big bore on my '17 SB, for the price and quality you CANNOT go wrong with SPC!
Excellent job Chris. A lot of work! I’m the kinda of guy that would prefer a linear torque curve for every day use, so I’d narrow it down to those exhausts that fit this range and then decide on which one of those sound best to me.
such a great deep dive. figuring out what someone rides like vs what you should go with vs what you think you should based on how flat or predictable the power is. keep up the fun cheers.
Dude you fricken killed it. You make it all make sense. I just put in a 132 big bore with 550 cam Sawicki speed shorty. wholly shit she wants to run. right now it just has a tune. Gotta get it on a Dyno and get my numbers. Thanks dude
The Blockhead exhaust looks amazing, sounds great! I went with SPC Big Bore exhaust on my 2-23 Low Rider ST. CR 483, SE 55mm intake, Fuel Moto Air Filter with larger air filter, SE 5.5 injectors going to be installed and dyno tuned soon.
Great Job. Lot of hard work put in this video. Thank You for explaining to us. Also. Props for not just going all sales like and pushing BH exhaust and keeping it real about why each exhaust suits different rides.
Hey Chris, awesome video. All the videos I watch everyone talks about max numbers and that’s it. I learned more about power band and power delivery in this video. Very educational so thank you. Keep the knowledge coming in brother
Great video. A lot of effort went into this video and we know you can’t test every exhaust. We all are guilty of chasing peek dyno numbers and stray away from where the power is made and what rpm range we actually ride in. Cams should be chosen by the rpm range we ride and the pipe should be matched to that cam. It would be interesting to throw in one old pipe/ “old technology” (i.e Thunderheader)to show benefits of a new pipe vs pipes we ran 20 years ago.
You guys are so professional in all your tests. You really know your stuff. The blockhead exhaust is the best looking to me and is well rounded. D and D runs great but looks are meh. And S and S checks all boxes. Looks like you can’t go wrong with any of these systems. The horsepower gain from stage one to stage two is really remarkable.
You guys kick ass! Seeing your first shootout was what made me buy a Sawicki pipe. And your videos help me through the winter up here in the north, cant wait for riding season!!
Bringing the zone down to 1500-3500 is where I live. S&S sounds the beast and looks the wildest, but not sure I could live with any of these long term. Thanks Chris.
I have the S&S and I absolutely adore it, at idle you can actually stand next to it and talk without raising your voice and when cruising at partial throttle you barely even notice it but when on the throttle it sounds deep more like a muscle car than a big bagger I really like it
Dude… you put so much work into this i hate to ask about pipes you didn’t test. Out of the ones you tested, I like the d&d best. I really like the Gallop Rocker looks for the build I have in mind. Fast Johnny street glide. I just wonder if they wouldn’t be too open for a stock cam. Still haven’t decided on a cam. Love the channel.
You're forgetting the most important pipe that matches the exhaust finicky 475 cam. Thunderheader X-Series. However, the D&D comes close. Any pipe that's short and free-flowing will have low-end torque dip.
I think the TBR sounds the best (HPi close second) but not really a fan of the way they look. Looks, I actually like the black exhaust best, although the S&S has a crazy cool look but not sure it'd work with my sport glide bags. Great video.
No one seems to make full titanium exhausts for Harley like the Italian brands like Ducati, MV AGusta or Aprilia. The super thin wall titanium is stronger than steel, does not rust or corrode. It’s almost 50% lighter than steel but allows a special ring tone to the exhaust sound. You can hear the difference. Titanium is known for its rapid cooling to help engine performance. It cools almost immediately when engine turn off. Plus the beautiful colors of the metal
Chris man that was alot of work as far where I live in the rpm is about 3500 an I have a tbr short on my 2020 lrs 114 well it says 114 but who liks stock stuff
Would be good to know which of these pipes are more or less difficult to tune as well. Some 2 into ones just make things a pain in the ass to tune i have been told by several tuners.
I appreciate this kind of content. It helps narrow down what works and where it works. Could you all test the S&S Diamondback or Side Winder? It’s in the name of science.
I know the numbers would probably be crap, but I really want to see a 107 with the 475, the S&S mini teardrop bassani down under duals and a megaphone Muffler like the cheap Sharkroad, or the expensive CFR. That's my dream setup for my 19 Street Glide Standard
Thanks chris, your the man! By all means, if yall get a chance to try the blockhead exhaust on a sportster (883 and/or 1200)! That would be awesome! Thanks block fam!
@@brettanderson1630keep in mind on Baggers length and diameter make a huge difference. If you use the same or similar systems meaning short or mid length conical style you can expect similar results
I could only imaging the hours of work that went into making this video. I will say one thing kind of in response to what Chris is saying about the dyno charts. You may have one exhaust that will work great for a stock bike and maybe shitty for a cam job. I have seen a lot videos and talked to a few techs that have customers not want to switch pipes because it is not the right pipe for that cam. If you are planning to do a cam, be prepared for a few things. 1. Your exhaust might not work will with the cam you want. You say you don't care until you ride the bike and find out for yourself. 2. Be prepared to swap your exhaust for the cam that you want. (This would be expensive since you will be switching exhaust systems twice) 3. Be prepared to pick a different cam to work with the exhaust you have. Even though I'm not a tech, please talk to the person that will install and tune your bike. That person does it for a living and will have way more knowledge about this stuff that you do. More than likely, if you go with what your tuner recommends, you will be way happier than if you just slapped something together and sent it.
Impressed with all. But the S&S was surprising with the hiflow cat 50 state legal. I guess their r&d is legit. If i recall even stage 1 shootout was also impressive.
2n1 usually means better performance due to pressures and speeds equalizing inside of both pipes as the exhaust finds it's way out. True Duals can sometimes mean that there is a significant amount of difference between how much pressure each piston or valve is moving as it attempts to move the exhaust. 2n1n2 is usually a decent in-between of the two as you'll have a crossover. I may be wrong on some of the science but that's what I understand of the different exhausts.
Awesome! Just Awesome! Well done Chris. Also just wanted to check, is Justin’s bike a Softail Standard with a 107? And do you believe the 107 is a better motor for torque than the 114?
Science just in time. Been thinking of changing my corba el diablo pipe(2 into 1) on my low rider st to a s/s 2 into 1 pipe for looks and this gets the wheels turning more 😉👌👌
Which is your favorite? Drop a comment and let us know! 🤘🏼This video took us weeks to film, and put Justin's bike through a lot! If you enjoyed it, please consider subscribing, sharing, liking and all that jazz!
Love your pie cut tip on your blackhead exhaust
I love sound of the TBR turn out and it’s look in black (currently owned). 2nd 🥈 would be the Blocked exhaust.
D&D 4 life
Patiently awaiting the release of the BLOCK HEAD Exhaust! Can’t wait to install it on my 117 road glide.
I like the reverse cone stealth the best out of what was here... I'm a sucker for duals though
Definitely not lost on me how much work you went through to show us these results.
I think I speak for many when I say how much we respect your professionalism, Chris.
Thanks, again.
Eric in Kissimmee.
Dude I hate changing exhausts. This is a whole lot of work/time to make this video. This is invaluable for someone looking to upgrade their setup. Great job guys!
I know a lot of work went into making this video. We appreciate you Chris for putting in all the work and Justin for donating your bike to take all of the abuse.
In the name of Horsepower Science ✊
There were so many times during this video where I just laid my head back against my desk chair, closed my eyes, and just listened. Had a smile on face, just enjoying the sound. What a wonderful video to help my get through another sick day! And it certainly helped ease my desire to ride, but only barely! Ain't no substitute for my own bike!
Super glad to read that! 👊🏻
I wish I lived closer. I would love to have Chris tune my bike. The man is a genius.
Driving in from austin tc to have them work on mine
@@matthewescobedo3535 Pennsylvania this month to have Chris do some Cam work, can't wait to pick it up when it's done
Highly recommend, he worked magic on mine
@@not_your_daddys_ultra what did you have done if u don't mind me asking?
@@Silverdiablo1788 I had Wilbers suspension installed, jackpot headers and a dyno tune.
Definitely one of the best Blockhead video’s to date. Thanks Chris!
Very cool! I always dig the exhaust comparisons and getting numbers off the same Dyno. Great job explaining everything too Chris.
So much work into this! Thank you so much for this great video!
GOOD TO SEE YOU BACK IN CHARGE AGAIN CHRIS
Get a load of all this brother, brothers. You guys rock, giving the people what they want. How about another one with some 2-2's boys?
Great video and break down. A lot of companies only show their one-off dyno results of their product and not back to back with competitors. Area under the curve is so important because that's where power differences are actually felt from one product to another.
D&D Vtec kicks in bro!!
SPC all day long though. Flat torque throughout the rev range is NICE! That's a sweet pipe.
You should do some 2-2 pipes vs the 2-1's so people can really understand what's going on here, to show the benefits of a good exhaust system.
That SPC exhaust is the big bore, not the lanesplitter, if anyone was wondering. You can tell by the extra section welded in between the collector and the muffler.
I have the big bore on my '17 SB, for the price and quality you CANNOT go wrong with SPC!
Thanks, SWG. My best friend and I are both shopping on the next exhaust. Everything from the selection to the explanation are right on target.
Great video Chris! Glad to see the Christmas tree! Glad u guys decided to keep it up!
Best exhaust comparison on the web, hands down! Cheers to y’all for bringing us this science! 🧪🤘🏼
👏👏👏
Excellent job Chris. A lot of work! I’m the kinda of guy that would prefer a linear torque curve for every day use, so I’d narrow it down to those exhausts that fit this range and then decide on which one of those sound best to me.
such a great deep dive. figuring out what someone rides like vs what you should go with vs what you think you should based on how flat or predictable the power is. keep up the fun cheers.
Dude you fricken killed it. You make it all make sense. I just put in a 132 big bore with 550 cam Sawicki speed shorty. wholly shit she wants to run. right now it just has a tune. Gotta get it on a Dyno and get my numbers. Thanks dude
Amazing video. Thanks for taking the time to show us results!
The Blockhead exhaust looks amazing, sounds great! I went with SPC Big Bore exhaust on my 2-23 Low Rider ST. CR 483, SE 55mm intake, Fuel Moto Air Filter with larger air filter, SE 5.5 injectors going to be installed and dyno tuned soon.
Great Job. Lot of hard work put in this video. Thank You for explaining to us. Also. Props for not just going all sales like and pushing BH exhaust and keeping it real about why each exhaust suits different rides.
Great seeing part two. I still love the look and sound of the TBR Turnout. Great work Chris, you are the man!
Hey Chris, awesome video. All the videos I watch everyone talks about max numbers and that’s it. I learned more about power band and power delivery in this video. Very educational so thank you. Keep the knowledge coming in brother
Waiting for stage 3 now....subscribed
Me too!
Excellent content! I just love the science behind combustion engines. Great job Chris! Thanks Blockhead!
Great job, the dyno graph shows where your power comes and fades on whatever system you choose.It definitely validated my choice.
Man you covered so many aspects in this research. Great job!
Nicely done, thank you. I would pick the Sawicky with cat, because of glow and fire, and be glad it made it in the same category as the others.
excellent comparisons and explanations.
Awesome job!!!! Those companies should be thanking you folks for doing this. Really helps out us consumers.
Great video. A lot of effort went into this video and we know you can’t test every exhaust. We all are guilty of chasing peek dyno numbers and stray away from where the power is made and what rpm range we actually ride in. Cams should be chosen by the rpm range we ride and the pipe should be matched to that cam.
It would be interesting to throw in one old pipe/ “old technology” (i.e Thunderheader)to show benefits of a new pipe vs pipes we ran 20 years ago.
Absolutely love that you guys take the time to do these. Keep up the quality work!!
Thanks for the detailed review, I really enjoy these sessions.
looks good 👍
You guys are so professional in all your tests. You really know your stuff. The blockhead exhaust is the best looking to me and is well rounded. D and D runs great but looks are meh. And S and S checks all boxes. Looks like you can’t go wrong with any of these systems. The horsepower gain from stage one to stage two is really remarkable.
Herculean effort to bring us this type of content! Really appreciate you Chris.. you are the definition of MASTER TECH.. 🏍️💪🏻
You guys kick ass! Seeing your first shootout was what made me buy a Sawicki pipe. And your videos help me through the winter up here in the north, cant wait for riding season!!
Bringing the zone down to 1500-3500 is where I live. S&S sounds the beast and looks the wildest, but not sure I could live with any of these long term. Thanks Chris.
I have the S&S and I absolutely adore it, at idle you can actually stand next to it and talk without raising your voice and when cruising at partial throttle you barely even notice it but when on the throttle it sounds deep more like a muscle car than a big bagger I really like it
Wish u guys can get a fab28 2 into 1. Love the sound and look 🤙🏽
Dude… you put so much work into this i hate to ask about pipes you didn’t test. Out of the ones you tested, I like the d&d best. I really like the Gallop Rocker looks for the build I have in mind. Fast Johnny street glide. I just wonder if they wouldn’t be too open for a stock cam. Still haven’t decided on a cam. Love the channel.
Love the comparison of the exhausts plus Cam.
You're forgetting the most important pipe that matches the exhaust finicky 475 cam. Thunderheader X-Series. However, the D&D comes close. Any pipe that's short and free-flowing will have low-end torque dip.
Great presentation
Great work lads 👍🏼👊🏼
Your efforts & attention to details are the best I’ve come across ☝🏼Keep up the great work
A person could learn so much just by watching and listening to Chris
Lol, tell my kids that please! Lol
Thanks guys this is awesome!
Great videos! Please do a comparison of stg 3 💪
More of this please ...have tbr, wanted to know more...I'll watch shit like this for HOURS.
Love my tbr by the way. Love how it sounds and rides, wished you would have shown more numbers though.
More numbers?…Huh? Whachu talkin bout Willis? You got numbers on every system!
Worded that wrong...wish you would have gone over the tbr #'s a little more (were the power comes into play)
Or I could stop being lazy and go back and look after you explained the graph lol
Really enjoyed the video. Fantastic work you guys.
Great video. Appreciate the effort you put into this!
Great job Chris we all know how much work you did
Great job Chris tells me a lot and I appreciate it
I think the TBR sounds the best (HPi close second) but not really a fan of the way they look. Looks, I actually like the black exhaust best, although the S&S has a crazy cool look but not sure it'd work with my sport glide bags. Great video.
Great video Chris
Impressive analysis
Great job documenting how to make a Harley decent!
😂
Thanks Chris -lot of effort
Can you test a spc big bore works ?
This is a very informative video and well done. Great job blockhead team!
I prefer the S & S Grand Nationals for me they have the right look for a Softail Standard and the rest is a great bonus.
thank you Chris still holding out for blockhead exhaust
It’s coming very soon!
No one seems to make full titanium exhausts for Harley like the Italian brands like Ducati, MV AGusta or Aprilia. The super thin wall titanium is stronger than steel, does not rust or corrode. It’s almost 50% lighter than steel but allows a special ring tone to the exhaust sound. You can hear the difference. Titanium is known for its rapid cooling to help engine performance. It cools almost immediately when engine turn off. Plus the beautiful colors of the metal
been waiting for this.. great stuff, thank you.
Good info thanks ⛄️
Great explanation, thank you for the great work
I would love to see what the Blockhead pipe would do with a slight reverse cone tip for a tiny bit of back pressure for the lower rpm.
Chris man that was alot of work as far where I live in the rpm is about 3500 an I have a tbr short on my 2020 lrs 114 well it says 114 but who liks stock stuff
Love these videos!
Was that really the SPC Lanesplitter? It kinda looked like the Big Bore 4.5
Appreciate it …love the content
That chrome clutch release cover looks nice on the street bob.
Great video. Still missing the popular Bassani and Thunder header exhaust.
Still don’t own either and neither are a sponsoring manufacturer. If you have a set of either you’d like to donate to the cause I’ll for sure test it!
Would be good to know which of these pipes are more or less difficult to tune as well. Some 2 into ones just make things a pain in the ass to tune i have been told by several tuners.
Depends on your experience and knowledge base. If you don’t know then yes it can be a pain
very nice video, good info..keep it up
Thank you Professor Chris! When it comes time to vote for tenure, I vote Yes.
I appreciate this kind of content. It helps narrow down what works and where it works. Could you all test the S&S Diamondback or Side Winder? It’s in the name of science.
Why didn't you test the Bassani 2 into1? What can you tell me about the Bassani pipe?
I know the numbers would probably be crap, but I really want to see a 107 with the 475, the S&S mini teardrop bassani down under duals and a megaphone Muffler like the cheap Sharkroad, or the expensive CFR. That's my dream setup for my 19 Street Glide Standard
Thanks chris, your the man! By all means, if yall get a chance to try the blockhead exhaust on a sportster (883 and/or 1200)! That would be awesome! Thanks block fam!
Great video!
are these numbers/results comparable to how they would perform on a touring?
Yes, slightly different numbers typically but comparable yes
@@sickwideglide thinking of making the switch soon, thanks for the input and love the videos. You guys make the Wisconsin winters a bit more tolerable
@@brettanderson1630keep in mind on Baggers length and diameter make a huge difference. If you use the same or similar systems meaning short or mid length conical style you can expect similar results
Damn I enjoyed this video.
I live in the twisties - anything stand out to avoid for bad lean angle?
I could only imaging the hours of work that went into making this video.
I will say one thing kind of in response to what Chris is saying about the dyno charts. You may have one exhaust that will work great for a stock bike and maybe shitty for a cam job. I have seen a lot videos and talked to a few techs that have customers not want to switch pipes because it is not the right pipe for that cam. If you are planning to do a cam, be prepared for a few things.
1. Your exhaust might not work will with the cam you want. You say you don't care until you ride the bike and find out for yourself.
2. Be prepared to swap your exhaust for the cam that you want. (This would be expensive since you will be switching exhaust systems twice)
3. Be prepared to pick a different cam to work with the exhaust you have.
Even though I'm not a tech, please talk to the person that will install and tune your bike. That person does it for a living and will have way more knowledge about this stuff that you do. More than likely, if you go with what your tuner recommends, you will be way happier than if you just slapped something together and sent it.
Impressed with all. But the S&S was surprising with the hiflow cat 50 state legal. I guess their r&d is legit. If i recall even stage 1 shootout was also impressive.
Always heard the tbr exhaust give up power or have a big dip in the power band, seems pretty comparable to the rest of the systems?
Thank you for 29:16 29:20 the info!!!! Appreciate you!
Why is a 2n1 a “better” set up if you’re wanting performance? Which is better for someone that wants to crush miles? 2n1n2 2n1 or 2n2?
2n1 usually means better performance due to pressures and speeds equalizing inside of both pipes as the exhaust finds it's way out. True Duals can sometimes mean that there is a significant amount of difference between how much pressure each piston or valve is moving as it attempts to move the exhaust. 2n1n2 is usually a decent in-between of the two as you'll have a crossover. I may be wrong on some of the science but that's what I understand of the different exhausts.
Awesome! Just Awesome! Well done Chris. Also just wanted to check, is Justin’s bike a Softail Standard with a 107? And do you believe the 107 is a better motor for torque than the 114?
Science just in time. Been thinking of changing my corba el diablo pipe(2 into 1) on my low rider st to a s/s 2 into 1 pipe for looks and this gets the wheels turning more 😉👌👌
D&D makes me smile ! But where are the Bassani option? Did have them last time either, just wondering why ?
We don’t own one.
I wish you would have dynoed a vance and hinds pro pipe
Have y’all tried out a burns exhaust at all?
I don’t have one unfortunately. There are many more exhaust’s I’d love to test but this is what we own
Awesome! Thanks for making this video
Top notch info! Mucho thanks! 🤘
Great job, thanks Chris
Does your back rear peg clear the exhaust can you put the peg all the way down into position 🤔
How much does header length effect HP/TQ ? Is it always better to go with the longest header pipe exhaust?
I know I’m Late to the party but I’m always wondering about the cobras SPEEDSTER SHORT 909 pipe with there power port
Hey why don't you guys ever test Bassani very much? I've got the Bassani High HP pipe and I've been waiting for daaaaaays haha.
We don’t own one and they declined to be a sponsoring manufacturer. Send me yours and I’ll add it to the test inventory