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- Exhaust systems for Harley-Davidson motorcycle are everywhere and the options are nearly endless. Beyond looks and sound each system targets a different function and this will greatly determine your motorcycle's power output. Some exhaust systems are great for looks and sound but really aren't going to do much to benefit your bikes performance. Getting the proper exhaust to match your riding style, needs and performance goals is going to make your investment worth every penny!
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What's your favorite style of exhaust system?
I love my SE II on my 00 Heritage Softail.
currently I'm running a Vance and Hines true dual headers with Rinehart slip ons on my '09 flhtc
Bassani road rage B2 , got it on one of my street bob ... really think i want one on my other dyna (was thinking about V&H short shots til this video )
Thunderheader on my 96" 99 Evo Heritage Classic...drag pipes 34½" 45° slash cut w/ splitters on my 1973 91 ci Shovelhead...light to light hauls ass my friend...
2-1... even on my bagger
Great video and content. It’s refreshing to see someone on TH-cam that knows what they are talking about and can explain it in no bs terms. Keep up the good videos man.
Thank you! I appreciate your support, it mean a lot to me!
Dude said in another video that spark plug wires made his bike sound better..🤷♂️
Dude, your into into the three factors into exhausts is the best I ever heard. I usually start grinding my teeth whenever someone says that you need back pressure, when instead you need velocity of your exhaust gas flow.
The more often I see your posts the upper shelf in the background is sagging a little bit more
I swear it's got a planned replacement coming soon!
😄😂 thank you! My wife is the carpenter, video coming soon!
LOL!!! I said the same thing. That shelf is scaring me!
That's how he gets subs. When he gets to a million he'll fix it.
@@joetroutt7425 LOL... A couple of 2x4s would go a long way to help!
I think a ThunderHeader with wrap is the definition of form follows function, and they sound awesome.
Those pipes work and do it very well!
Agreed. I got tired of rewrapping every few years. Now I use VHT header paint.
Agreed my Thunderheader sounds amazing on my 107ci motor w
@@alanquintus2069 you paint the wrap or just the header?
@@49r4life The header. There's no wrap on it at all.
Great content. Really like your channel. Back when I bought my '14 SGS, I had asked for true duels, 2 into 2, on the bike, but they thought I want the power duels and put that on instead. I had had the true duels on my last bike and like it. I asked if they would change it and they said no problem. Once they were done, I got the call telling me to pick up the bike. I remember the guy telling me "I don't think you are going to be happy with this change". LOL So I took the bike down the road and though OMG what did I do! I lost 10% of my torque changing the header pipe from a duel with X over to straight duels. I crawled back and beg forgiveness. They changed them back for some labor cost. All good. Keep up the great work.
Thank you! Damn that's awesome they went ahead and changed it back for a little labor charge, that cross over section makes a huge difference!
I have an '03, Sportster XLH 883 Anniversary that I bought new in 2016... I say new because it had 236 original miles. One of the first things I wanted to upgrade was the exhaust system from the OEM. Not for exhaust volume but for performance. I had something particular in mind until I saw this video and honestly was convinced that a pair of Screaming Eagle mufflers would work as well if not better than the full system I was looking at. My thoughts and basic plan was not to turn a Briggs and Stratton into a Titan Rocket but more to just extract what's in there (not being utilized) accepting incremental improvements. I followed through with that and was blown away! That "incremental improvement" was more like a motor job than a muffler swap! Thank you so much!! I study your videos regardless of how they apply may apply to my ride because it's valuable information. Thank you again.
I’m checking in 2 years late but truly appreciate your videos. Been a rider for over 50 years if you count starting at 11! Just bought a 2016 Road Glide Ultra that has a Rush ceramic coated header (on cat) and Rush “Big Louie” slip-one, stage1 air cleaner and V&H FP-3 tuner. Runs great but the BL slip-ons are really loud. Going to pull the baffles and repack them or go back to the stock mufflers, keeping the header and see how it goes. If that does do it for me then I’ll join the slip-on of the month club and try something else.
Vance and Hines short staggered duels.
I was at the HD dealer yesterday getting tires, So I was looking at all the new big inch rides.
When my Heritage fired up heads started turning I knew immediately it was mine. Gotta love it haha.
Yes! I love it when you just know it's your bike!
I’m time traveling (looking at older videos) and binge watching your videos 👍🏻
Your videos are very matter of fact. Great videos. You come across very well.
Thank you, I appreciate it!
2016 FLTRXS (that's a Road Glide Special for those of you in Rio Linda (miss you Rush)), with Drago's Dragula 2 (2:1). Love the look, sound and performance.
Very informative!! All my questions were answered!!👍
Great video, Gixxer! I'm going back and viewing all of your old videos, and I wish I had known some of the stuff you talked about in this one before I bought my last exhaust system.
Thank you! I appreciate the support! There's quite a bit involved in exhaust systems.
One of the first things I learned about maximizing engine performance was the "air in" "air out" of the combustion chamber, which in turn led me to exhaust flows. Even back in the "70's" it was noted how 2 in 1 exhaust systems gave optimum performance. It was noticed especially on "flat track" twins and "drag bikes". It didn't take a whole lot of research to convince me. Nice job breaking it down GixerFoo! 2013 FXSB w/Bassani Road Rage II.
Thank you, I appreciate it! Exhaust systems are really more than just noise, unless you don't care about performance and just want looks and sound.
Since the 70's...Yes, I started messing with aftermarket exhaust when I bought a 72 sporty...then in 75 I bought a 46 Knuckle...the knuckle seems to run really well with the 2" pipes i made, and the original Super Trapps where you can change the discs. No matter what, you still can't really get top power all the way from idle to red-line,
I think that I’ll save myself some money and keep my stock ‘06 FXDWGI 2 into 2 exhaust and Screaming Eagle slip ons. If I could find the same looks and close to the same sound in an aftermarket exhaust I might consider it, but they seem to be scarce as hen’s teeth. It becoming apparent to me that if I wait a few days after watching your performance videos I can avoid removing all the funds needed for these mods from my wallet, GixerFoo! I’ve got a fan assisted oil cooler, a K&N air cleaner assembly, and a new HD speedo/tach unit for my Wide Glide, but I think I’ll hold off on having the cylinders bored to give me 98 cubes and maybe put in S&S Easy Start cams and a billet machined cam plate and maybe a dyno tune. It’s nice to dream when watching your videos, but I bought my bike to ride and not for it to become a money trap. Maybe if I was 40 years younger I’d have to have all the horses that I could wring out of my bike, but at 68 I’m just enjoying finally having my own Harley to ride. Keep posting your videos and I keep dreaming while I try to keep my wallet from becoming emaciated.
Great video. I agree with everything you said. Personally I prefer the 2 into 2, which I have on my soft tail now, but I have used different exhaust on different bikes. I had true duels on my street glide which I really liked, slip-ons on my last sportster, and ran mostly drag pipes in my younger days. For me it depends on the bike and the performance level of the motor.
Right on! Yeah it's really dependent on the bike and your goals with it.
I agree with you on the 2 into 1. I pulled the baffle out and the power drop was evident
Patriot 2 into 1's have a butterfly valve in the exhaust so you can tune the sound and power. Really a neat design but it could really mess with your tuning unless you have a wide band system.
Nice to see somebody that knows what they're talking about! When I was young it was loud & proud. But much older now & run Reinhardt's on my 2010 FLH. Nice deep throaty sound!!! Sucks getting old,....
Thank you! They have some very nice systems, I've run Vance & Hines quite a bit but I am coming over the Reinhardt exhaust.
Five... 15 stars for you my friend! This is the most comprehensive, easily understood tutorial, I have yet to see, anywhere! I have an '03 HD 883 (that I absolutely love) ...I am inquisitive about and fiercely driven to achieve enhanced performance. (Lucky for me I'm not a speed freak... "Honey, I need to do this pricey motor upgrade... we're gonna have to sell your Jeep!") I know what I think I could or want to be "better" ...I have my laundry list for the approach I should take to make that happen. Exhaust systems were #3 on the list... or were, with two successes under my belt, item three 3 is now #1. Your video has filled in all the blanks as well as spoke to a few things I either wasn't aware of or did not realize the significance of. Thank you, thank you, thank you!! I am ready to make my move with great confidence as to the results I am seeking. As I alluded to, I am very keen on study and will vet as many ideas, opinions and "philosophies" as necessary till I find a consistency and credibility that gives me the confidence I just mentioned. There are no shortage of resources "here" (how nice) but I'd like you to know... you have become my gold standard! For what this is worth, you may also have saved marriage... armed with what I've learned here, I can pursue that next upgrade without having to sell the old la... my young babe's rolling treasure! Thanks for a great video man!
I am very happy to help! The exhaust is very important, you can spend a lot of money and up with a lot of disappointment with the wrong exhaust. 883 is a stout motor and a great place to start, add a 1275 kit and you'll be ready to roll!
@@GixxerFoo You have, thank you so much!! 1275 eh? ...there's goes the Jeep! 👍🏻 Be safe
@GixxerFoo Good afternoon. Thank you again for a great video that answered many questions, including some I didn't know to ask but were beneficial in helping get me closer to the "right exhaust for me!" My ultimate mission is improved performance. I have no desire break, drag records, the sound barrier nor my neighbors eardrums. After seeing your video, I am convinced a crossover exhaust is the best way for me to go. Having a stock 883 I'm half way there... well mostly stock. I had a friend rebuild my stock carburetor... he fixed me up with a stage one set-up, unbeknownst to me. Then I upped the ante be installing a cheap but effective air filter that added a whole lot more air into the system. Re that, my deal there was strictly cosmetic, I liked the look of it (circular, 4" in diameter with a thick see through plexi cover. I've seen a lot of them around and not just on Sportsters) and I was tired of banging my knee on that "gomby" stock filter cover... now all I need is a good set of "slip ons" to complete my "accidental" stage one upgrade. I am assuming that all that combined; I may... should? feel some kind of noticeable performance boost. After going sideways for awhile with my research for the slip ons; I decided to ask you. Given what I've told you, could you recommend a slip on muffler that would go well with what I have right now. Thank you so much!
Staggered shortie, stock. I put a 3/8 inch hole in the plug and gave it a more deep sound. The down side to the crossover was adjusting the idle air mixture. The good thing is in cold weather it gets the fuel ready to burn.
Currently running Cobra staggered old-school-look on my evo and the sound is fantastic......with baffles!
Cheers Gix
Very nice! Those gotta sound really good on an Evo!
Thanks for the info. I was only going to add slip-ons to my '15 Ultra Limited, but now I'll be getting a set of head pipes as well.
You'll notice a huge difference in the heat you feel off the bike, Harley had some very bad placement on the cat.
Long shots with cross over and "quiet" baffles. Love em. Sound is perfect.
I have them on my Sporster, same baffles. Best sound.
Yes! The long pipes need to make a come back!
@GixxerFoo @@rider14mcd63 I went round and round trying to find that deep tone without so much "Blat Blat" you get with straight or regular bfls. I even went so far as to make my own glass packs to fit inside a set of V&H. The Long shots and Q-baffles was spot on perfect. And for those wondering, they are not "quiet" at all.
Got the quiet baffles on mine but took the wadding off. Found standard baffles too loud on long ride. The quiet baffles just take the edge off.
Glad to see you're feeling better.
I'm happy with the s&s header and Big Louie by Rush. It's got a deep throaty sound when you run through the gears but quiet when you're at a standstill idling.
Thank you!
@@GixxerFoo you're too young to be sick ✌️😂. Question ? I was wondering if you would do a video on suspensions. I thought I've been through all your videos but don't recall seeing one. and I was wondering what your thoughts are on the SOX shocks. I'm considering running them on the rear of my RG
I learn something new every time I watch your videos
Finding your channel packed with excellent, useful information. Thanks!
Glad to hear it!
I’ve been saving for a while to change the stock that came on my lowrider so this video helped a lot. Thanks.
The exhaust aren't cheap anymore then you gotta get a tuner and I highly recommend an open air cleaner. You get that exhaust on, you'll get some sound but you tune with a aftermarket tune for the exhaust you will see a huge difference!
Gixxer, glad you're feeling better. Thanks for the video.
Thank you, it's good to be back!
I have a V&H Big Radius 2.2 on my 2010 Dyna Superglide C. Couldn't be happier. It has a deep, lower pitched sound and good smooth power.
That's a beautiful exhaust system, they sound damn good too!
@@GixxerFoo Yea its great. It has the hidden crossover like you recommended. And doesn't piss off the whole nabourghhood.!
Awesome video with great info thanks!!!!
Very informative, Mike. Enjoyed this one. I've always wondered what the crossover was for on a 2 into 2. That's how my softail and electraglide are set up. Love the way the softail sounds with it. It has the stock 2 into 2 system with Screamin Eagle slip ons. It performs well with it too just like you said. Thanks for posting this.
Glad it was helpful! Harley learned people didn't like the crossover across the motor so they started hiding them. Your Softail has the SE slip-ons from back when they were a real performance exhaust! The ones today aren't much more sound than stock and they have cats in them, they are great for torque but don't do much more horsepower today.
@@GixxerFoo Having a deer run into my '05 FLHRS on the left side right behind the front tire, spin around and smack my SE slip on that's on that side broke the baffle inside of it. Started it up recently, after sitting for too long to admit, (too long of a sad tale to tell!) and fiberglass was blowing out the back. Rush makes replacements for my bike, but a Vance & Hines Pro Pipe (love the looks and sound of them) is going on, when its S&S 111 mill is installed... lol
Nice to hear someone who understands the theory of how exhaust systems work. I owned a dyno business for several years and specialized in tuning Harleys. Explaining this to customers can be exhausting!!! 😂
Oh gosh l understand completely, l worked in shops for many years and felt like l could just play back a recording on the counter. I imagine you got wore out trying to explain this especially as a tuner.
@@GixxerFoo to the point where I sold the business. Everyone with a laptop thought they were a tuner and everyone with a toolbox thought they were a tech. Lol
Wonderful video and I agree with everything you said. I think you left out one more option, the "lollipops". These also address the pulse issue, modify the sound and increase low end torque.
My 2005 Sporty 883 has factory headers, aftermarket slip-on's with baffles plus the DKCustoms Thunder Torque Inserts ("TTI's" which do everything they claim. They deepened the "voice" of my exhaust without increasing the volume and increased the torque. I just used the same bolt hole for the baffles and installation was easy. These are not expensive and they are removable. No, I do not work for DKC and they did not pay me anything for saying this. They are that good.
I've heard a lot of good things about DK exhaust, I am looking at trying one on my Sportster too!
Love the tone of my two into one exhaust on my Switchback! Just love the sound. Nice job.
Thank you! I wish they'd bring that SwitchBack back, that bike is an awesome concept. It's like a Road King that doesn't weigh a gillion pounds. What exhaust did you put on your bike?
@@GixxerFoo just the stock exhaust.
I went with bassani's new road rage short "ripper" 2-1 stainless steel exhaust on my 2020 softail standard. Man sound clips don't do it justice, when you give it the beans it screams, and it sounds really unique. It's not too loud when cruising which is perfect for me as well. Had vance & Hines big radius on my 2019 iron 1200, they sounded great but after like an hour my ears were ringing
Bassani makes a damn good exhaust, I'm gonna have to check that new one out you have.
@@GixxerFoo there aren't many videos of it, put miles on it has a video on it but like i said videos don't do it justice. I know on get lowered cycles TH-cam channel they have sound clips and dyno charts for it btw
I enjoyed this video this morning. I still ride my Harley Davidson FXWG 1983 since 1983. The best sounding pipes I had were drag pipes with Kromwerks HP baffles. Now I have Staggered duals. Neighbors like them better!
Oh gosh I bet your neighbors like those better! That's awesome you've held onto your bike that long over the years. It's possible with other brands but Harley is about the only one you can still get parts for and that's factory parts too. There are very few Harley parts that are obsolete, except a Vrod oil cooler, lol that was fun even finding someone to repair a radiator today.
@@GixxerFoo I still wish they would bring back the V-Rod, I always thought that was a slick looking Bike.
Always great info and videos
Keep em coming 👊🏽
Thanks! Will do!
I went with V&H Dresser Duals head pipe, and V&H slash cut oval mufflers on my 2014 street glide special. Pretty happy with this set up.
V&H makes a nice head pipe, plus they have an awesome selection of mufflers to pair it with. Can't go wrong with V&H dresser exhaust systems!
@@GixxerFoo , Keep up the good content! I like your videos! 👊
Excellent video. Answered a lot of questions for me.
Excellent video and great information. New to the channel, but I've watched a lot of your videos and all were informative.
Awesome, thank you!
Best explanation I've seen. great video. really appreciate it.
Great video. 2008 Ultra. S & S easy start 551s. Arlen ness big sucker w/ a tune. Icing on cake was a Rush 2-1 exhaust w/ 2.25 " baffle, "stepped" headed pipe. Great sound. 99 hp/100 ft. lbs. torque. Bought the pipe used. Got the low/mid range grunt was looking for. Keep up the good work.
Thank you, I appreciate it! Sounds like you have one hell of a build, those are some really good numbers!
I always use V&H true duals and big city thunder baffles, love the sound
Running a DND and makes my softail smoke !
Sounds like it's running rich, may need to lean it out a little.
I have the S&S power tune dual header with their SPO mufflers on my modified 103 ultra. Sounds like a seventies big block. Nice rumble with incredible torque off idle. Great for a two-up heavy bagger that you can ride all day and still talk without screaming at each other.
Very cool! I've heard that system before and it's got very deep sound to it!
I just put these headers on my 09 RK with Screamin Eagle Street Cannons and couldn't be happier. I added the high flow air cleaner and a V&H FP3 and she runs like a top! A definite improvement over the true duals that were on it and no high flow air cleaner.
Glad it feeling better ! I have 2 friends that run dynos one of which did all the dyno work for Rush exhaust back in 05 he had a customer that had Rush slip-on's & decided to go to a 2 into one he bought a VH pro pipe when they dynoed the bike they lost 9 HP VH told them they needed the competition baffle they gained back only 6 HP they eventually put a thunderheader on & gained 5 HP over the slip ons ! But you are correct on everything you said ! Drag pipes belong on the drag strip stock header pipes with slip ons or the best 2 into 1 ( Thunderheader ) on the street !
In haven't seen many good things at all with the Vance & Hines competition series 2 into 1. Hammer performance tested one too and they had better power with cheap slip ons. I was truly shocked that pipe doesn't perform better.
i have used a lollipop in v&h big radius 2-2 on 07 night train. now have 2016 fatboy s. basanni radial sweepers with a 1" washer on a 3/16 bolt, a home made version of the thunder torque insert. in my opinion it works well. having the bike dyno tuned with the baffles in and then going to add the lollipop. talked with a guy at dk customs and was going to buy the tti but he mentioned the lollipop honestly wasn't very compareable so i just got a big washer for my project he did say the bigger the washer without inhibiting exhaust was best. i may try bigger washer after this trial run. however, according to dk customs and big city thunder the lollipop or there version are very competitive for reducing reversion and improving low and mid range torque.
'91 Fatboy Shotgun drag pipes on my '84 and '99 model EVO Softails. They make me happy.
Once Again Great info..Love my Eliminator Slip ons on my 20 FXLRS..Great sound/Performance and Cooling / Mileage..
Right on! That's a very nice system!
The thing about a crossover pipe, especially an "x pipe" style is they help with scavenging. The pulse coming out of one pipe helps to clear what's left in the other and really increases velocity.
That's absolutely correct, the pipes increases velocity and actually draws exhaust gas down the system out of the combustion chamber.
Good lord. Someone that understands why you need a cross over on a Harley…
Vance and hines big shot staggered.👍 Best of both worlds.
Love the big shots! You really don't see them much these days sadly.
Glad to see you're feeling better! I run 2-1-2 for my bike!
Thank you! Those are my kinda system!
With my 2009 softtail when she was new. I took a long drill bit drilled 6 holes in a circle. Then I took a long drift and popped it out and it sounded better than anyone else's bike I ride with. Some of my friends have forgone putting on fancy pipes and did what I did to the factory pipes.
You can make a nice exhaust out of the stock unit with a little work into it.
Thanks Foo Great video. Always have info I didn't know I needed.
Glad to help!
Hey love your channel, very informative. Thanks! got a 06 Road King with a s&s T124 engine what would you recommend for exhaust system?
What a great vid, good to watch and everything explained clearly .. I feel like I know stuff now, well a bit..
Glad it was helpful! I love getting the word out and giving everyone some things to think about before you spend hard earned money for parts.
I put new Avon rubber on the front and rear three weeks ago. After that, I figured 'screw it' and bought Bassani Road Rage 3 for my 2000 FLHR. I chose them because I like the stainless finish and they look good. Sound is loud when accelerating, but quiets down cruising around town. At highway speeds, yeah, it's loud. At least people see me now.
Loud pipes make people look!
Great video. Really appreciate all the info! I’ve decided to go with the s&s power tune duals headpipe on my ‘02 FLHT Standard, and I’ve also decided which slip-ons I want, but what I’m struggling with is the size…4 or 4.5 inch. Care to weigh in?
Thanks... Now I know my system. Bought 2008 Ultra glide anniversary edition. Bike came with 3.5" Python slash cut/scalloped slip-on mufflers...Fuelpak (First version)...Python dual header pipes without cross over and sounds real good. Vanes&Hines stage 1 washable, non oiled air filter.
Python makes an awesome system, they run really good when you get some air in and out of those bikes.
@@GixxerFoo Again, Thanks for sharing your knowledge.
I have a build motor in my Road King. I run a 2 into 1 Supertrap and it makes great power.
Thanks. You give us in-depth information
Very welcome and my pleasure, I hope it was useful!
Alot of great info in this video. Thanks for doing it.
Very good information
Running the V&H big radius 2 into 2, not the best choice for my 110 tire shredder street bob but it looks amazing and has a much deeper thump when idling.
I imagine that 110 sounds bad ass with those pipes and the cams the kit uses!
Great content. Much appreciation.
On my 2020 cvo limited, stage 4 131, went with supertrapp catless headers and supertrapp slip ons,, 2 into 2 , love the mean loud sound and power is very strong
Hell yeah, does yours have the tuneable disc setup?
GixxerFoo no mate, just interior built in baffles, which are practically non existent,,,
Most of the time, customers chose exhaust systems on based on price , style/looks and sound/volume. Some flat out ask for whatever is LOUDEST. For better or worse, the cheapest ones are often the loudest. And then they don't want to spend anything on tuning.
For touring bikes , I like the V&H Tru-Duals. I've never had another system install as easy. It takes longer to take a stock system off!
That's very true! The loudest exhaust system doesn't mean it performs well!
Really good video , made me think twice about what my new exhaust will be
Glad I could help!
I came close too going 2 into 1, but I cant get away from that Harley Sound. And my wife loves it too. Sold, 2 into 2 it is.
I love your takes here, tantalizingly quazi-judgemental.
As usual.
And that's a good thing.
You always keep your opinions present, but they're just icing on the big fact cakes you like to bake for us.
Keep doing what you're doing Foo. 👍
PS - I have corresponded with you on this, so I know your take. At least on my '09 Fat Bob. I appreciate the time you took to reply. Still running V&H Short Shots Staggered. They just sound so good...
They are some good sounding and looking exhaust! I really like the look and sound of those myself.
@@GixxerFoo Thanks. And I agree completely. That's why I'm still riding the fence about switching over to a 2 into 1 - even though I'm leaving some HP and torque on the table...
Good to see you back. Take care of yourself
Thank you!
That shelf behind you needs some attention!!! LOL, Nice video and helpful! Thanks
Thanks for watching! Lol sometimes I think that shelf made the channel grow, it's been replaced to much delight and dismay at the same time.
Love the Vance and Hines pro pipe 2 into 1 on my road glide touring bike. Pulls down low all the way up top
I do like the look and sound of the pro pipe 👍, great exhaust for good torque!
@@GixxerFoo it sure is. I wanted the d&d but the price hurt my feelings
I have Vance and Hines headers with a set a screaming eagle slip-on, I enjoyed the video, thanks
Very nice! I like aftermarket headers with the screamin eagle exhaust, they sound good and perform very well!
Great video yet again Bro! Im a bit tight on funds, so on my stock '13 FLHR Ive drilled out baffles to 30-35mm (1.25 in approx) inside diameter, and stock header pipe is getting decatted.Im getting a S&S air cleaner and power vision map installed, and mapped and dyno'd today. My hearing is crap, but I can add after market slip ons later on down the track, if I want to, as well as cams too.
You know I've heard some stock exhaust that have been modified like that and they work just as good as some of the slipons I've seen. Especially having tuned on the dyno that makes a huge difference. Cycle Shack which used to make the most inexpensive slip on on the market made more than it's high dollar competitors.
The works been done and bikes performing so much better!Im guessing 10% more horse power.And it's louder with cats out too.
GFoo , thanks for the Heads up on exhaust!👊
Any time!
Exactly; my knowledge and opinion the same -
Crossover a must ; I love 2:2 sound & looks .
My hooker step headers 2:2 no crossover . Fighting that now . My fav is dyna factory headpipes with crossover and Vance & hines slip ons .
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I bought my 2012 Road King about 4 yrs ago and it still had the stock head pipe on it along with some V&H twin slash rounds installed by the previous owner. Once I got it I took off the stock head pipe and put on a Cobra power dual head pipe with the slash rounds. Ran it that way for awhile and decided I wanted to try V&H true duals. Then decided I wanted to put on the mufflers of my choice and first went with DNA Megaphones. After about 4 rides decided they weren't for me, just to obnoxious for my taste, luckily they were cheap...lol. Just put on a set of Cobra Neighbor haters, which was actually my first choice, remapped with my FP3 and......I love them....this is the way a harley should sound and it has good power for a Stage 1 engine. I think the debate is finally over me...at least my wallet is hoping it is...lol
Very informative video I myself run a set of Vance & Hines true duals with a set of CVO 2016 takeoffs on my twin cam 95 with 203 SE cams. 👍
That's a very nice setup for a touring bike, that quieter exhaust really is nice running down the highway for miles!
It was a bit quiet at first but I think the muffler's have blown out some fiberglass and now they have just enough rumble for me and the flow nice at wide open throttle. Of course I had to detune my Powercomander but I love how it cruise's on the highway.
I like what you said about the factory headpipes. My 08 Eglide did very well with Rinehart slip-ons. The I put a true dual (no crosspipe) and lost a lot of power! Huge mistake! I'm a 2-1 guy all the way!
Really helpful as usual. I was going to go for Vance and Hines chrome short shots but after watching this video I think I'll go for Cobra 2 into 1 El Diablo in chrome👍
The short shot look awesome, but they aren't great for power. Now the Cobra on the other hand, it looks good, sounds good and makes power!
@@GixxerFoo indeed👍
@@GixxerFoo I have a 03 heritage softail....what do you think about the Vance & Hines bigshot staggered exhaust system?
Great video, I really appreciate your insightful advice and your knowledge sharing. Worried about your chemical shelf, the sag is getting serious 😂
Thank you, I appreciate it! Lol that shelf was retired before it flat gave up.
HPI inc 2 into 1..... best sound, performance and shes a nice lookin pipe too. Great video, well done.
Much appreciated! HPI is a damn good looking and performing system.
Great Info! Thank you! GixxerFoo!
I understand that my question will be HUGELY unpopular with most motorcycle riders, but how can I maximize performance without sacrificing the minimized sound coming out of my stock pipes? I have a 2009 Softail Deluxe that has stock pipes. I love the looks of the stock pipes and I love the fact that my neighbors don’t hate me (for having loud pipes). For the minority of us interested in quieter exhaust and increasing performance, can you do a video on options for us? I have found little to no content n this subject. Thanks! Love your videos and how you do you.
Supertrapp two into one. Awesome system many adjustments with shims to tune your bike for performance.
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Supertrapp makes a killer exhaust, you don't them much anymore sadly.
i have Vance and Hines twin slash slip-ons and a stage 2 Arlen Ness big sucker. very very happy with sound and power
I run the twin slash myself, my wife does too. We're really happy with the sound and performance.
I have never had an issue with my stock head pipes on my 21 RGS. I put a set of Krome Werks 4.5 HP plus slip ons on it and it runs great. I guess I haven't noticed the heat from the converter. I'm still trying to decide what exhaust my FXSE is getting. Love the 2 into 2 systems but the Bassani Road Rage 3 Stainless steel 2 into 1 is catching my eye.
I have a twin cam 88 all stock 2003 Road King FI. Only change is a less restrictive air filter and not the K&N or Air Hog type. I have been trying to find the *sound* for years. Tried many different slip ons over the years too. Rinehart 3 and 4 inch, RCX 4 inch, Screaming Eagle (whatever size those are), punched out stock pipes (did nothing for sound AND performance--don't do it). So a shop I frequent suggested Vance & Hines slash cut, double sleeved-look exit. THAT is the sound I was looking for. Riding 53 years and 45 bikes total.
The performance went up. Now, instead of 65mph in 5th and struggling, the bike is now running WAY better and sounds the way I want it to boot! It will top out at nearly 110+ now. Engine runs just fine with just a slight pop down long hills.
But by far the best modification I ever did, was to eliminate the right rear, right side exit pipe that comes out of the rear head that ties into the front header pipe, right near the oil fill area. I made my own true dual exhaust system. Running that way for the last 2000 miles. Cleaned up that area, and made filling and checking the oil much less of a hassle with that pipe out of the way. Now the exhaust sound is out of both sides equally. I can hear the difference. The bike pulls hard in all gears. And now I can feel the difference in the performance.
Nothing better than getting that sound you're after, not to mention the performance gains too!
Very informative. Thanks. 👍🏼
My pleasure!
Hi 👋, great territorial, I used to have a Softail DEUCE 1999, 1450 , but I gave it a upgrade 1550 cams oil pump ignition module. And of course 2-1 exhaust system, BOOM CAN , I think it was made by D D , the wording around my registration plate was, loud and proud , I kept the baffle inside it, but you can still see straight through it, I do not know the reason why ha ha, but when you read it up and hit the ignition switch on and off you had a flying come out the best part of 4 foot, I used to live in the UK I was the only person outside of the US that has a set,
They sounded amazing and very good performance , RIDE SAFE GUYS AND GIRLS,
PHIL FROM THE DARK SIDE OF THE MOULIN FRANCE,
Recent, I did 4.5 slip on and tried bassani crossover block off, torque was better but I found oem 2 slip on was better overall , then added dk torque insert on right and extra backpressure smoothed accel thru entire curve! For warranty i kept oem head pipe w cat!
For me I can swap exhaust and run it all day long on the dyno and get the best numbers, but when you have your butt in the seat the feel doesn't match the graph. Feel, look and sound of the bike is where it counts!
I have a 2012 Electra Glide Ultra Limited, with factory headers. I put on a set of SharkRoad slip-ons. I absolutely love the sound, and it only cost about $200, from Amazon. The sound is a great low rumble, about 50% louder than stock pipes.
Thanks for sharing! I've been looking at those myself wondering how they sound, is the finish pretty good on them?
I went with the 4.4” megaphone in black. The headers are covered with a chrome plate. The finish is great, but hidden mostly by the saddlebags.
The rumble at idle shakes the house, from the driveway. 😆
Bought my first D&D fatcat, louvered baffle, 6 years ago. I’ll never go with another manufacturer! D&D for life.
Fatcats a bad ass system, they are hard to get since they are so damn good. Seems like they are always on back order.
@@GixxerFoo Cycle Solutions has them in stock, also where I buy my exhaust.
I love to hear Harleys cruise by, some more than others. From a sound lovers perspective, I divide exhaust sounds into two components:
1. The loud crack of the exhaust valve opening into a straight pipe. It’s loud, high frequency, and irritating (to me). The straight pipes do not attenuate the sharp transient, the instantaneous sound pressure wave produces a ‘spike’ much louder than the average sound pressure level of this exhaust.
2. The lower frequency rumble of an exhaust with enough volume to mellow out the pulses. This is the sound I live for. Even at loud levels it’s not irritating. The right size glass pack accomplishes this even with the baffle removed.
I like that nice mellow rumble that doesn't spike the frequency chart too, when it's tuned just right and has a nice controlled sound.
@@GixxerFoo A couple of decades ago I was shopping for a slip on for my 1200 Bandit. I actually called the Yoshimura office in California and talked to one of the technical people. He stressed muffler volume as the prime factor in achieving low frequency rumble. I bought the largest Yosh pipe that would fit and was very happy.
I'm with you on your preference for something with a lower frequency sound signature. My 99 EVO with a mild cam and V&H short shots are uncomfortable to my ears. My 94 EVO with straight drag pipes are way more comfortable on the ears and gives a pleasant rumble that even the wife loves.
Great video, learned a lot. That shelf needs some reinforcement....
🛑🛑 Great Video Gix👍
I think largest gain you can accomplish on a touring bike, is to get rid of the “Cat” and let the motor breath and perform like it can💯.
On my 2016 CVO Limited, I went with S&S Power Tuned Duels, with Rinehart 4” Mufflers. Great Sound and Power Numbers👍
Keep That Great Content Coming😀👍
I like it! The cat placement in the head pipe is awful, I can't believe they let bikes out of the factory like that.
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That Cat is Hot, and Robs Power.
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The part I can’t believe goes out of the factory, is the cylinder breather line, that dumps back into the air intake.
That set up is “hokie”👎
I took a stock two into one exhaust from a 2015 Dyna Low Rider, removed the catalytic converter material, and modified it to fit my 2003 Dyna. Just removing the catalytic material makes it noticeably louder but with the stock Muffler it's still not too loud and I can always run an aftermarket slip-on later if I want to.
Harley makes a good header but those cats sucks, sounds like you made one hell of an exhaust out of the stocker!
@@GixxerFoo Thanks.
I was running a Two Brothers 2 into 1 for a little while but on those long rides over 500 miles in a day it really started to go right through me. I guess I'm truly becoming an old man now. I like power but not so much the noise.
Good job GixxerFoo, I'm ol school I guess, I like the true dual exhaust, always enjoy your videos brother 👊🏼😎
Thanks 👍 Oh yeah on a touring bike I have to have the true dual. It's just right amount of sound and they just work so well with the low end of the motor.
@@GixxerFoo thanks man, enjoy your weekend Brother 👊🏼😎
Nice video. Had to get rid of that cat in my ultra. Went with Rienhart love em
Good choice! I bet the ride is a lot cooler now without that cat in there!
Screamin seagull 16 gauge double barrel are my favourite. I have them on my night train.
You've got some of the Screamin Eagle exhaust from when they were a real performance exhaust, not they have cats and they aren't much over stock. Better than stock but not all out performance like they once were.
Hi Mike I chose the Sharkroad slipons for my new softail. They sound similar to Tabs and look like Basani while staying at 3.5" in diameter so I've lost nothing but the backpressure
That's awesome! I've seen those for sale and they are really decently priced, they sound really good in the videos I've watched. There's a lot to be said for slip-ons with the factory header, they perform really well honestly.