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Survive The Devils Staircase
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 12 ม.ค. 2023
- The Devil's staircase in Wales is a popular hiking spot, and for a good reason! This route offers stunning countryside views and is worth checking out if you're in the area.
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This sounds like a good ride, has anyone got the grid ref for the start?
I started at Rhayader and then put this in my Google maps
maps.app.goo.gl/nYakc4gBv7ETvTHFA
Then I went over the mountain to Abergwesyn
Here you go :D
The Devil's Staircase is actually about a third of a mile and two bends of the 14 mile mountain road between Abergwesyn and Tregaron. Also ride the road to Llandovery that runs along the hillside above the Llyn Brianne reservoir.
More importantly, how the heck do you pronounce that
@@SaffySprocket Abergwesyn? As it's spelled (the the last syllable sounds like "sin"). Llyn Brianne? I'm not going to attempt to explain how to pronounce the "ll" sound :-), but Brianne is bree - ann - ee (apparently it's an English cartographer's attempt to spell "bryniau", which is Welsh for hills).
Defo recommend the Llyn Brianne reservoir. Great roads and spectacular views. The finish off with a trip to the Owl's Nest!
Ah Burr Gwes sin
Masterfully presented my friend! This looks and sounds spectacular! 🔥🔥Simply brilliant cinematography!
Thanks a ton! 🥰 Glad you enjoyed it
I drove up it in the last bit of snow. (6inch) super fun! 👍🏴
Jeeeezzz, bet that was an adventure and a half!
@@SaffySprocket I was in four wheel's. Still first tracks in the snow. (Hehe)🏴
A great part of Wales and worth riding. Shame some of the footage had your camera pointing more towards your phone rather than the road.
Yeh sorry about that, it was filmed a while ago and I've learnt a lot about camera angles since then!
5 extra minutes is better than 5 days in hospital, that is great advice 😀👍👍
It's always good to be out of your comfort zone it builds up your XP. :) Great video Saffy.
So true!
Did it today. Beautiful area
The valley approach to the staircase is awesome, my favourite bit for me 👍
Mine too!
nice ride
Thanks 👍
There's among many another Welsh road Saffy that's so worth the ride. It's quite remote & I don't think we'll known?. It climbs up over the moors between lake Vyrnwy & lake Bala.
What makes it so special I hear some ask ?. If you make a good day of or better yet a few days than there's so much more.
I used to live in Llanrhaeadr ym Mochnant only about 10 miles north east of Vyrnwy. Don't worry Saffy, I won't ask you to try pronouncing any of these places lol.
Anyway, just a few miles up into a steep valley you'll find Pistyll Rhaeadr. It's gorgeous & the second highest waterfall in the UK. Also just at the bottom of the waterfall is a campsite run by two beautiful people, Phil & January.
After you visit a legendary waterfall, make the gorgeous ride over to Lake Vyrnwy & ride up the right hand side. The scenery is stunning. From there take that ride over the moors & try not to have any collisions with the 🐑 lol. By the time you get to lake Bala it should be nearly lunch time. It's a beautiful little town at the top end of the lake. Lots of cafés, coffee shops & the lake it's self is a water sports paradise if you're into that.
After you've regenerated in Bala ride down the the left hand side of the lake & at Pandy pick up another spectacular road over the moors back to Vyrnwy & then ride down the opposite side to Llanwddyn which is a lovely little village at the south end of lake Vyrnwy. There's even an amazing sculpture park just below the dam very much worth a visit. Where you go from there is up to your inner compass.
Thank you as always Saffy for sharing the journey xx
Looks like a great ride to do on a pushbike for me! Don't think I'll bother taking the 'busa up there.
Looks like a fun road! Thanks for the information. I will have to check it out someday
Glad you found it useful!
Hi Saffy, me and a few pals are doing a tour of wales end of july, will certainly put this on the route. Great vid thanks.
Have fun!
Can honestly say I've never been, but will bear it in mind maybe for a long weekend sometime this summer 👍
You should!
1:42 "Abergwesyn"...pronounced Abba-gwessin! Greetings from Llanelli...have a stab at that one! 😁👍
Ah seee I know two LL's are pronounced Clan!!! I learnt that after being laughed at in Llandudno 😂😂😂
One of our favourites. We ride it at least once a year.
I really love it! Planning to go back to it soon!
Awesome , ❤️👍🤘😎
Thank you! Cheers!
Its an epic road even in the very wet and rainy day me and my brother did it on
It's so much fun!
@@SaffySprocket it is that rollercoaster bit too we all was like weeeeee over them humps like 12 year olds
Did this on my Fireblade over the August bank holiday, been doing this run over 40 years in a car first time on a bike. One of the best runs in Wales, the Irfon valley is sublime. Highly recommended.
Little tip for riding tight corners uphill: put more pressure on the footpegs and less pressure on the seat, even to the point of standing up if necessary. Putting more weight on one footpeg aids steering too.
Really good advice!
Rode this last September (Llanwertyd Wells to Tregarron to be precise), wonderfully scenic, remarkably well surfaced for the grade of road. That A-to-B includes the most remote phone box in the country (was going to be removed until folk campaigned for it to stay as a landmark). Route includes Wolf's Leap.
Inclines interesting when kitted for a tour but totally manageable. As others have said, the staircase itself is a small interlude in the middle but no reason the to-from can't be entertaining as well! Saw 1 m/c, 1 car, 2 or 3 log wagons and 500 sheep :) so def. go off season.
Oh and '1-in-' makes way more sense than a %age.
Love the Devils staircase. Have to admit I have never ridden up it always down it from the Tregaron end. Also beware that are some areas on the route that doent have mobil reception. And the locals know the road the like the back of the hand a tear around like loons.
Another great vid
Glad you enjoyed
Ohhhh maan! You have even worse roads than in Norway! 🤯🥳
To be fair, I think the roads in Norway aren't too bad! I was quite surprised at how bad your weather gets and the roads in comparison
That looks like a fun road,I just got back from my ride up the Takaka hill,Its a awsome road at the top of the south island in New Zealand, you would love it on a bike
Ah I'd love to do New Zealand 🥰
Brilliant road 😎
Its a lot of fun :D
Definitely best going before the height of summer and you'll enjoy it far more, it's a great road and some gorgeous scenery. Wales is a beautiful place for bikers, as is Scotland and many roads are not for the nervous, but such great fun. Good place to learn a few more biking skills as well. Nothing like a good ride out to clear the cobwebs.
Looks amazing. If you're ever in Norway and want to ride the Trolls ladder, give me a shout 😁
Will do!
Ok 👍👌 Saffy
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Saffy thank for the info X might try these to m bike
You'll love it!
nope.... no motorcyclist training in my day. a case of jump on bike & self learning! allowed to ride anything up to 250cc on a learner licence. started out at 16 on a moped, then to a CB200 twin, CB250N Superdream. 5years later went for my test (before the rumours of the new motorcycle tests came true) and passed 1st time (still no training, apart from swotting up on highway code).
I honestly couldn't imagine anything worse than a 125, I just think they're not safe
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When are you going to take us to the fish n chip shop 😫
😂😂😂😂
Saffy, you must come visit me in South Africa. I will take you to some of the most amazing mountain passes that you can ride. I mean bucket list items...
I bet it's crazy over there!
Done it like 20times
It's a fun ride!
Nice video again Saffy. Shame you didn't make it to Llyn Brianne and on to Tregaron (the village famous for Operation Julie - the biggest LSD bust in Europe)
LSD burst 👀
@@SaffySprocket bust lol not burst
Saffy try the Lake Balla road next .great road
I'll have to check it out!
Which one?
@@legiunia84 The one up past the lake on the right hand side ,B4403 then take the B4391
Like the
Hair red 😍
Thank you 💕
Easy road when ya know how ride it .
aha I think most roads are to be fair!
Yep going to do this! Looks like I made the right choice re a Himalayan.
P.s Def doing in Summer though first off. Will have to get waterproofs sorted (tent etc am almost sorted).
Lorries in Wales can def be annoying.
I rode this road in October 21 on my Himalayan. It's a perfect bike for these roads. I didn't come across any other vehicles and it felt like I was in the wilds of the Canadian forests ... the road alongside Lynn Brianne, which continues from the top of The Devil's Staircase, is outstanding too. Waterproofs a must though !!!
@@matthewbenjafield5470 Any waterproofs you recommend?
@@MauriceTarantulas hi, I used the Richa Rain Warrior top and matching bottoms. The big mistake I made was not putting the bottoms on sooner 🤦🏻♂️
I now have a Merlin Edale jacket and Lombard trousers. They are ‘technical wax cotton’ and are excellent. They are a lot more subdued than other types of bike gear, which was a big plus for me.
That said, a lot of people recommend military surplus Goretex gear, which is excellent and can be a real bargain. I’ve seen the ex-RAF stuff and it’s great.
@@matthewbenjafield5470 ok thanks! Am trying to find a light leather or summer jacket also.
The merlin shenstone looks the best so far. Maybe will look at wax jackets..
P.s Love that edale jacket. Thing is could you wear in summer? (Need to go look at some but not many Merlins in the local bike shops).
@@MauriceTarantulas you can take the lining out of the Edale for summer, and it has vents. Too warm for south of France but not too bad for the UK 🤣
See if there’s a branch of Sportsbikeshop near you, they have most things or you can order to try on.
After watching all your videos, I suspect that you would be better served in your adventures, with an adventure bike.
I get this comment a lot ahahha
All I could see was your phone and about two feet infront if the bike 😅 someone forgot to check camera positioning 🤦
if nothing is coming from the opposite direction, it's ok 😅 I know, but not once, 🤣🤣🤣
I always seem to go the wrong way around 🤣🤣🤣
Saffy search for the Sri Lankan Devil staircase…..
I'll look it up!
Not that bad, there’s a 44tonne timber wagon in front of you 🤔😉
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Just need to lift your camera a tiny bit and the camera view would be so much better and more open just an observation absolutely not hating on you. That road looked busy but amazing to ride thanks for a great vid
Hey thanks! I filmed this when I was first starting out on my channel :D I didn't want the footage to go to waste so I decided to use it anyway 😅
Whats with the red hair Saffy.😊
Can you rise your camera angel? Can only see the road ditches.
It's old footage unfortunately 😅 a lot has changed since I first started the channel
Would a 125 be able to handle this ?
Absolutely 👍 managed a few steep hairpins in the area on my old 125… it only had 9bhp
@Lady-and-the-duke laughing need me some 125 friends to ride with so bad too🤣
Yep, some years ago did it on CBF125 no problem.🙂👍
@jonathandeeley6276 I'm gonna make a day to get to Wales for it man looks brilliant
Probably better than some of the bigger bikes! I totally wish I didn't have luggage on my bike 🥰
Sounds great but camera angle was a little low for showing the scenery!!!
Sorry about that the footage was from when I first started riding!!!
What happened to your eye? 😮
What do you mean 😅
@@SaffySprocket it looks like you’ve got a black eye 😢
its only a hill i been up there in a lory nouthing in it
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You're crack'in me up !!! I think your camera needs to be tilted up a little ...
I thought I was the only one who has noticed it.
Yeh sorry, this was filmed a while a go! Back before I learnt how to make sure cameras were better 😅😅😅
@@SaffySprocket No worries ... I've just started doing Greenscreen stuff ... and with cameras there is always a learning curve ... Stay Safe ... I dig your videos ...
Would be better if you were looking at the views instead of your phone case 😉 can't see anything
Sorry about that the footage was from when I first started riding!!!
My Sportster loves roads like that ... In case you missed it ... here it is ... th-cam.com/video/kwmnXgfkzUM/w-d-xo.html ... lol
For similar thrills and scenery, I think you'd really enjoy the Elan valley and roads around the Clywedog reservoir.
If you're approaching from the north and can make a weekend of it, I'd even start from as far north as Lake Vyrnwy (Vernwee) and make your way towards Dinas Mawddwy (Dee-Nass Maww-the-wee)and onto the A470.
A short hop south on the A470 brings you to Llanbrynmair, (Clan-Breen-Mayer) where you turn Right towards Llanidloes (Clan-need-loyce), via Penyfforddlas/Staylittle. (Pen-uh-for-the-lass) Take your time - no good will come from trying to ride these roads too quickly. Stop at the top of the reservoir for a breather and to marvel at the scenery all around you.
Continue to Llanidloes (Interesting old market hall here) where you can fill up with petrol, coffee, cake, etc.
Retrace your route and head back the way you came for a mile or two then turn Left towards the old lead mines and ride the route around the reservoir, which will eventually bring you back onto the road you started on, albeit North of the reservoir.
You can loop towards Machynlleth (Mack-un-cleth) from a road a little north of where you'll come out - via Forge, and travelling through some lovely countryside - different to the rolling hills you've just left.
For that night, (If making a weekend of it) I'd stay near Rhayader, (Rye-adder) and the next day head to the Elan Valley Visitor Centre - get your breakfast here and spend some time off the bike learning about the reservoirs and uploading maps via the wifi - then back on the bike to go exploring, to discover the reservoirs and dams - you can ride on top of most of the dams!
After finding all dams, follow the moors road to Aberystwyth (Abber-us-two-ith) via Cwmystwyth, (Coom-us-two-ith) which will get you back onto faster roads to get you home.
* 'In Welsh, L is one letter, and LL is also one letter - not two. the same applies for: D, DD, C, CH, N, NG, M, F, FF, R, RH, T, TH. (There's also no K, Q, V, X, Z in the Welsh Alphabet)
**LL (For example 'Llan' meaning church or place of worship) isn't pronounced 'Clan' per se - but is close enough and will get you by.
***Any word you see that starts with 'Llan' means 'Church of', followed by the name of usually a saint or significant person. For example, Llandudno, is Llan-Tudno, meaning 'Church of Tudno' - You recently rode over the Great Orme and will have ridden past St Tudno's church near the hairpins.
OOoooH! Yes! I've made coffee looking at that church! Thanks for all the tips! I really want to venture more into Wales, it's just such a beautiful part of the country
No problem. I’m really spoilt living where I do. Surrounded by such stunning scenery and very rideable roads.
@@paddy25212great advice, i ride these roads too. However the Elan Valley visitor centre for refreshments is a no no for me. Rather the cafe at cross gates 1/2 the price
@@volt8684 I stop at that Clywedog reservoir CP/viewpoint. Gorgeous.
And for those of us who are "Pub Landlord British", a 5% slope = 1in25; and a 25% slope = 1in4. Life used to be so much easier. 📐🤯⚙🧮👈
5% = 1/20, 4% = 1/25
🤯you lost me
Saffy, in days of old, when knights were bold... the UK used to have road signs for slopes with 1 in 4; 1 in 5; 1 in 6 etc. written underneath, until it all got swapped, over night, probably due to the EU, to read 5%, 10%, etc. Old school vs new school. So, can I ask you, if a slope is 5%, just what is the 5% actually measuring? Is it 5% of a 90° right angle, making it 4.5°?
5% is the same as a 20th, so 5% used to be represented on signs as 1/20 which means that for every 20 feet/yards/metres travelled you would ascend/descend 1 foot/yard/metre, depending on which direction you are travelling.
@@Capesthorn I'm old school, so the 1ins are how my brain works, but as for the percentages for inclines, well they are just mental. When we say a percentage, what exactly is it a percentage of though? Is it in our example 5% of a 90° right angle? That would make it to be 4.5° incline. I have never used a percentage as a measure of an angle. Not in geography or mathematics. But I can tell you a disabled ramp is 1 in 12.