Can I turn an IRL action scene into an Anime scene with rotoscoping?

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  • @slight7596
    @slight7596 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3790

    Fuck controversy rotoscoping is dope
    When it’s not stolen

    • @darkren88
      @darkren88 3 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      hahaha tnx aot. now we discovered roto lol

    • @IAm-zo1bo
      @IAm-zo1bo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +84

      @@darkren88 It doesn't fit in every anime and every scene. It doesn't make every anime better

    • @RonaldoVODS
      @RonaldoVODS 3 ปีที่แล้ว +80

      @@IAm-zo1bo Yes, it's better for choreography scenes. Like, in attack on titan it's kinda of not needed even though it looks cool

    • @RonaldoVODS
      @RonaldoVODS 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      @@hawaraman0868 Yes... there are some scenes that are cool to see the characters moving in a higher frame rate and stuff, but in Shingeki it's not... fitting?
      Instead in some animes scenes that focuses in a lot of movement like melee fightings/dances rotoscoping looks dope.

    • @ilhamadigunawan5264
      @ilhamadigunawan5264 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@RonaldoVODS yeah, i mean it's neat to have roto sometimes, but that particular episode made the other episode seems jarring with it back to normal limited animations.

  • @WeLuv._Zhymir
    @WeLuv._Zhymir 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1820

    “That man is as dead as my discord server” 😂😂

    • @WeLuv._Zhymir
      @WeLuv._Zhymir 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Discord name is IDKmations#8773 if you want to join 👍

    • @WeLuv._Zhymir
      @WeLuv._Zhymir 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      There is no space between idk and mations

    • @WeLuv._Zhymir
      @WeLuv._Zhymir 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      This is how it should look IDKmations#8773

    • @TuffleG
      @TuffleG 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mm same

  • @Jireninyourrecommendations
    @Jireninyourrecommendations 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1816

    Trunks going Super Saiyan was an amazing touch in this animation and overall, you did an excellent job in it.

    • @DelaliA109
      @DelaliA109 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      American cup song

    • @JustADioWhosAHeroForFun
      @JustADioWhosAHeroForFun 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Wth are you doing here

    • @ionutionescu7490
      @ionutionescu7490 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hello again

    • @mihailmilev9909
      @mihailmilev9909 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JustADioWhosAHeroForFun lmaooo

    • @SunSurfSnow1990
      @SunSurfSnow1990 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Question, why did u not just use an auto roto tool? Mask out the characters, then use forced motion tracking to create a point map and use 2.5D model animation like blender 2D system? Ur way took sooooooooo long

  • @MayhemCause
    @MayhemCause 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1293

    This video seems to kinda ignore the fact that most professional rotoscoping work is based off original reference material, not used as a way to steal other people's work. Its a great technique that has been used by some industry greats. People in the comments also seem to be under the impression that it can only be used to trace over other people's animation? thats just not the case. You can record your own video and rotoscope that. This is something that has been done for a very long time in animation and continues to be used in anime to this day. I bet you a lot of your favourite scenes are in part rotoscoped over real footage that the team has recorded themselves.
    I also disagree with the advice that rotoscoping is a good start for beginner animators. I think starting from rotoscoping prevents you from learning a lot of fundamentals, and its a technique of its own not a supplement for learning how to animate by hand.

    • @electricmidnight5586
      @electricmidnight5586 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      Very well put

    • @justiceofbook
      @justiceofbook 3 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      Haha me not knowing how to animate but I learned how to trace in 5th grade 😎

    • @-lemon536
      @-lemon536 3 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      any form of tracing was great for learning how to draw (for me at least) as a kid. Because, if i trace something enough times, my muscle memory will kick in and ill be able to draw the same thing at least somewhat well on my own, and later be able to stylize it

    • @Joseph-vy4pv
      @Joseph-vy4pv 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      the 1 prince of persia game animations where made usinjg rotoscope

    • @GranMaese
      @GranMaese 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      This is a poorly researched video, indeed. The lack of experience of the narrator is noticeable. He is talented, though, don't get me wrong, but you can tell he is very far from the place he would like to be as an accomplished animator.

  • @hypnomad2001
    @hypnomad2001 3 ปีที่แล้ว +781

    Rotoscoping shouldn't be controversial, its just an animation style/technique. While it heavily involves tracing the typical and correct ways to do it are taking footage that you own and animating it to produce animation of a higher level of detial and fluidity than normal. It's bad to steal other's footage but that isn't a problem with Rotoscoping but a problem with the people who steal the footage. Rotoscoping isn't supposed to be "stealing and tracing anothers work to pass off as your own" but "using real life footage to produce realistic animation".

    • @tetsuoshima2314
      @tetsuoshima2314 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Exactly

    • @MsShortyforlife
      @MsShortyforlife 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Always thought rotoscoping looked somewhat odd in my opinion but I can see the merit of it being used as a tool since it can definitely help with not knowing how the body moves in certain situations. Overall I feel like it should be used as reference just like how someone uses a picture and changes it to fit their painting or artwork or a way to develop your animation even further but that’s just my opinion

    • @ThoraeJenkins
      @ThoraeJenkins 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      ​@@MsShortyforlife 'bad' rotoscoping looks odd.
      Or rotoscoping some things but not others, which can lead to clashing styles if it isn't planned around.
      In the case of this video, something great about rotoscoping is that he could have changed that 'knee stab' part of the video to be a stab to the stomach or chest by simply rotating the angle of the sword. It means you can take a rough idea of motions, and then refine them in post.
      You can then also add things like squash and stretch, blur frames, smears etc to sell the motion and speed while keeping the framerate low.
      While they can be good for reference as you've said, that's not all they should be used for. Rotoscoping helps sell action scenes by making them feel more grounded and real, as long as the artists use it correctly, like any other technique for animation.
      It's just another tool in your toolbox.

    • @Medbread
      @Medbread 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@ThoraeJenkins Not exactly. When you watch the Kaguya-sama ED dance, you can tell that it what rotoscoped very easily from the way the gravity works. Her skirt falls and moves silky smooth, unlike traditional animation. But, you wouldn't say it's bad.
      Rotoscopinh has a very unique look to it that takes a lot of effort to get rid of, which would render the time saved by rotoscoping to begin with useless. Similarly, the Gogeta vs Broly scene in Dragon Ball Super: Broly caught me off guard in the theatre because it was rotoscoped, and I could tell. It didn't look bad, but it looked off.
      The reason for this is most likely that anime is generally less fluid in motion, and is lit differently. When anime studios rotoscope, they often shade using the 3D models as a basis, which, when the animation is done, makes it feel very off-putting, and completely different to the other, non-rotoscoped scenes in the same movie or episode. The Kaguya-sama ED dance, however, took the time to shade and highlight the animation like they would if it were a non-rotoscoped animation, which helps it not look weird. The same can't be said for certain parts of Dragon Ball Super: Broly. (Though I still loved the movie overall)

    • @mrsplashman8308
      @mrsplashman8308 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      No ones issues with rotoscoping come with people using their own footage. It’s literally because people steal things and claim it’s their own. Besides that honestly I would say 99% of people don’t have a problem with it

  • @holdthephonexylophone
    @holdthephonexylophone 3 ปีที่แล้ว +375

    For the guy that "just got stabbed in the knee," to be fair you can hear a distinctive crunch of bone, and it looks to me more like he got stabbed in the thigh. So if that bone crunch was indeed his femur, then that should be painful enough to completely incapacitate him.

    • @MuckyBeef
      @MuckyBeef 3 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      And in fairness, probably bleed out

    • @michaelfranke8622
      @michaelfranke8622 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Oh that seems much nicer than what I always assumed. I thought the sword went from knee to ankle in the leg. Somehow that seems so much more painful to me especially thinking about how the bone would crunch during that. But yeah, femur makes more sense

    • @alstenfung5508
      @alstenfung5508 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      U guys forgetting adrenaline lol

    • @ieatbugs8948
      @ieatbugs8948 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      @@alstenfung5508
      Ah yes, adrenaline would fix his ability to stand upright, lmao
      You kinda need bones to stand, if it were otherwise we could fix our need for wheelchair production with a few shots of adreno

    • @alstenfung5508
      @alstenfung5508 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ieatbugs8948 but broken bones in his legs would paralyse his arms?

  • @kiya46107
    @kiya46107 3 ปีที่แล้ว +254

    The Golden Age Disney used rotoscoping.
    Heck, they rotoscoped their own stuff.
    I mean, Jungle Book(I Anna Be Like You scene) and Robin Hood(Phony King of England party scene) have the same dance scene.

    • @kriptonite981
      @kriptonite981 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Robin hood had a lot of reused scenes

    • @yonggongaming
      @yonggongaming 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Also they recorded actors then traced for snow white

    • @royyanaidil5342
      @royyanaidil5342 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Well it is from their own work, and remember, back then they did Whole Movies by hand

    • @bri1085
      @bri1085 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Fleischer brothers did it best with Betty Boop in Snow White.

    • @ginogatash4030
      @ginogatash4030 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@royyanaidil5342 funny thing about that period is, tracing and reusing animations was a money saving practice they had to do cause at the time Disney wasn't doing so hot money-wise, but the directors for Robin Hood were interested in animation recycling as a deliberate technique, which is part of why that movie in particular had so much recycled animation, and Milt Kahl, one of Disney's "9 men" (which were pretty much the elite animators of the studio) wasn't happy about this because to him the studio was getting lazy.

  • @greenglassblock1324
    @greenglassblock1324 4 ปีที่แล้ว +955

    Rotoscoping in my book is fine, but dont only take from one show, take from a large library of shows and Frankenstein them together into an original piece. Nothing is inherently unique, everything is adapted from something else just dont straight up plagiarize something else entirely

    • @spockbetter
      @spockbetter 3 ปีที่แล้ว +103

      or just fiml yourself or ask a friend to send a clip

    • @Wuffskers
      @Wuffskers 3 ปีที่แล้ว +91

      @@spockbetter yeah I feel like the "ethics" of rotoscoping is really glossing over the very viable option of filming yourself or a friend and rotoscoping yourself. Obviously this is case by case, in a fight scene if you aren't a trained fighter the movements might be a bit odd, or if you're doing sports and you aren't an athlete and don't know how to move like an athlete would, it might look off, but there's lots of things you could rotoscope and it's as simple as doing it yourself and then rotoscoping over yourself

    • @IAm-zo1bo
      @IAm-zo1bo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Why does it matter if you just credit the original one

    • @juanhoffmann4096
      @juanhoffmann4096 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Oparin well because he did the whole work of animating it, you can oh it’s (oroscope or whatever) but the credit still is all yours

    • @juanhoffmann4096
      @juanhoffmann4096 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Oparin Rotoscope*

  • @pjsniper436
    @pjsniper436 3 ปีที่แล้ว +83

    If you have a sword through your leg, I'm pretty sure your natural instinct would be to scream and hold your leg in agony...

    • @collecter137
      @collecter137 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Idk man, adrenaline is a hell of a drug. Agony? Maybe not. Shock? Probably.

    • @pjsniper436
      @pjsniper436 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@collecter137 nah, we're talking about a broadsword and more likely severed arteries along the way, a guy ain't doing nothing but scream in pain.

    • @ToroidalZero4
      @ToroidalZero4 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@pjsniper436 not to mention like you said, its a broadsword, so that means femur go bye bye

    • @pjsniper436
      @pjsniper436 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ToroidalZero4 too right lol

    • @Carl-ld5jy
      @Carl-ld5jy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Adrenaline. In a situation like this, you wouldn't feel anything until a couple seconds later. In fact, there have been instances where people blasted their leg off with a shotgun or split their foot in half, but didn't notice it until after the impact.

  • @ieatbugs8948
    @ieatbugs8948 3 ปีที่แล้ว +397

    "This guy gets stabbed in the knee, loses the ability to bonk Geralt over the head and just falls down"
    ...I think we as a generation who've consumed nothing but action content for a decade have forgotten how absolutely crippling and shocking it is to have a blade penetrate the bones in your knee and to have the muscles in that knee torn apart. That's not an 'I'll get over it in ten minutes' wound by any means, lmao

    • @f.b.i.6015
      @f.b.i.6015 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      *nods*

    • @Mr._Popo
      @Mr._Popo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Yeah but he probably wouldn't feel that because of adrenaline for a couple of seconds... Afterblows like that should have been were common...

    • @ieatbugs8948
      @ieatbugs8948 3 ปีที่แล้ว +53

      @@Mr._Popo
      Adrenaline doesn't stop your bone from shattering, man
      You kinda need bones to stand, no matter the adrenaline.

    • @marty7635
      @marty7635 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ieatbugs8948 bro his bone is ok a sword cant break bone

    • @BlightBreedOfficial
      @BlightBreedOfficial 3 ปีที่แล้ว +58

      @@marty7635 You must be joking. You can shatter a bone just by falling over and landing slightly wrong.
      Are you telling me that a giant blade being slammed into your knee cap at such an incredible force, would do nothing? It would absolutely obliterate anything in its path.

  • @DerptekofGoochland
    @DerptekofGoochland 3 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    *Past David is dead*
    "Get the new animator in there, back to work"
    How Cyberpunk was made

  • @AntikMahmud
    @AntikMahmud 4 ปีที่แล้ว +424

    How did you upload the video on flash !!! 😶😶

    • @minhphucnguyen6616
      @minhphucnguyen6616 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Whyre u here

    • @IAm-zo1bo
      @IAm-zo1bo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@minhphucnguyen6616 shut the f up

    • @copycat3901
      @copycat3901 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@minhphucnguyen6616 shut the f up

    • @Plaz1111
      @Plaz1111 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@minhphucnguyen6616 sh the fuck up

    • @TheKingDagon108
      @TheKingDagon108 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@minhphucnguyen6616 shut the f up

  • @cowbrow3283
    @cowbrow3283 3 ปีที่แล้ว +279

    13:02 The Final Product

    • @justanormalguyonyoutube1098
      @justanormalguyonyoutube1098 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      thanks bro

    • @napasensei133
      @napasensei133 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      no thanks I prefer to watch the behind the scenes of this type of stuff

    • @deus_ex_machina_
      @deus_ex_machina_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The final product is the least interesting aspect of this video, I stopped paying attention and started reading the comments at that point.

  • @5headguardians789
    @5headguardians789 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I feel like rotoscoping is a good tool for struggling animators and beginner animators and I think its a great asset when using a fully original movement as the base (for example, love is war ending) but I agree, it's dirty and under handed that people take full credit for things that are rotoscoped.
    This was a neat animation, helped me learn alot

  • @yukaige23
    @yukaige23 4 ปีที่แล้ว +138

    This video has given me a great idea of how to start learning to animate. Thanks man. And I love your channel and yout videos. Thanks bro.

    • @thecommenter5278
      @thecommenter5278 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Learning how to animate it is ok, but tracing it is not learning. So don't trace anyone's work unless it's your own body u rotoscoped

    • @yukaige23
      @yukaige23 4 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      @@thecommenter5278 but as long as I don't claim that the animation is mine and it was rotoscoped and say that it is just as practice is that okay?

    • @belalalalal363
      @belalalalal363 4 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      Queen of Awesome! tracing is learning! just don’t claim it as your own! it’s good to practice and understand

    • @jabir5768
      @jabir5768 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@yukaige23 Go for it ! But I recommend taking time to understand what you're doing instead of just tracing mindlessly

    • @TailsClock
      @TailsClock 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@belalalalal363 Tracing teaches you how to trace, but it does not teach you how to draw. Tracing will never help you learn to animate. I know from years of experience. Don't fall for the lie.

  • @AlexRivera-pe8co
    @AlexRivera-pe8co 4 ปีที่แล้ว +190

    Make sure u turn the lol champions into anime characters

    • @Randen-Re1.
      @Randen-Re1. 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Alex Rivera freakin turning Battle Bunny Riven into Mai Sakurajima

    • @layz7998
      @layz7998 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Randen-Re1. yess

    • @AlexRivera-pe8co
      @AlexRivera-pe8co 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mr.Randen yessir

    • @AlexRivera-pe8co
      @AlexRivera-pe8co 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mr.Randen imagine Evelyn and the rest of kda

  • @Sunny-uz8cw
    @Sunny-uz8cw 3 ปีที่แล้ว +87

    To me, rotoscoping should be a tool used to create animation from a reality-type scene (live action, reference) or to practice and develop an understanding of how other animations progress. To use an animation fight to create an animation fight and sell it as your own is, well, plagiarism. Seriously, if you take the context of that and put it into a written literature context, it'd be identical.
    Don't plagiarize. That ain't cool.

    • @MrBnj317
      @MrBnj317 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The first animated movies used this technique. They used to proyect an acted secuence (like a dance) and then they drew it. Without this, animation wouldn’t be the same.

    • @MrBnj317
      @MrBnj317 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      And even before that, in the XV century, the great “geniuses” of painting used a device called camera obscura, wich consist in a box with a small hole and a bunch of lens, that allowed them to proyect a real life scene over the canvas (or the surface they were drawing on) and the they drew it and painted it. What a bunch of cheaters

    • @Sunny-uz8cw
      @Sunny-uz8cw 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@MrBnj317 Totally agree! Rotoscoping is a skill many animators should pick up and try to perfect. I just don’t want it to be used to copy other animations!

  • @RADZIO895
    @RADZIO895 3 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    He must be really good at drawing frieza after this

  • @tedcruz212
    @tedcruz212 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I like rotoscoping when it’s used to create original work. For instance filming something and then converting it to animation.

  • @Suntas
    @Suntas 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    The half second of "I ended up deciding on..." and hovering over a fucking body pillow of jesus-kun gave me an heart attack

  • @prollydatboi8841
    @prollydatboi8841 3 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    D-did you say “etika etika” as in like... etcetera ??? Like the word 😂😂

  • @cromwellcruz
    @cromwellcruz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +171

    The fact that you don't make exaggerated smears makes the movement clunky. Similar to how irl action looks like cgi without motion blur. Nice job tho :)

    • @markjack9772
      @markjack9772 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Motion blur makes animation look better

    • @grimdagoblinmain
      @grimdagoblinmain 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@markjack9772 Only animation that is supposed to be extremely fast, such as dragon ball z. It doesn't make sense when someone moving at normal speeds looks like they are moving tenfold that.

    • @markjack9772
      @markjack9772 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@grimdagoblinmain ok?

    • @derais_music
      @derais_music 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@grimdagoblinmain Huh? What do you mean? Anything fast needs motion blur. When someone runs, you don't see just one image, you see the whole sequence, with overlaps and blur. You can see it too when you wave your hand. When slowly waving your hand has motion blur, you'd expect a fight scene to have a shit ton of it.

  • @tetsuoshima2314
    @tetsuoshima2314 3 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    I mean rotoscoping is foundational in animation from the very beginning, first I've ever heard of any controversy, of course you shouldn't just steal but as a tool/technique it's indispensable - it's like the OG mo-cap. Many animated classics wouldn't exist w/o it.

    • @tvsonicserbia5140
      @tvsonicserbia5140 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Disney would've probably never attempted realistic style human animation for movies if it wasn't for rotoscoping

  • @PythonPlusPlus
    @PythonPlusPlus 3 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    This is why we haven’t seem any other aliens from Frieza’s race

  • @retardedmonkey9000
    @retardedmonkey9000 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    wow this was really cool, its amazing how realistic the parallax looks when the camera moves

  • @Justinjaro
    @Justinjaro 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I love how you called an hour and a half a long time to do any roto work. Join a vfx team during a project and you'll see yourself rotoing much harder shots and even need to make sure the edges are cleaned up. I've had shots that have taken me around 4 days for around 16 seconds of footage.

    • @nolsjawline
      @nolsjawline 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Aw I see I don't know much about rotoscoping, but you could've phrased it better. It may not seem much to you but it didn't took him an hour and a half.

    • @Justinjaro
      @Justinjaro 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nolsjawline he stated it took an hour and a half for the rough blockout at 24fps for the full sequence, that's what I'm replying to. Honestly that's fast, but I'm just stating that it gets a lot crazier in actual production. Cleaner edges and a lot more shots, especially if you're a roto person since roto work is usually intern / grunt work in studios if you're not a specialized rotoscope artist.

    • @wokk9543
      @wokk9543 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      shut up nobody cares bro

  • @quinnsinclair7028
    @quinnsinclair7028 3 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    To be fair, having a long sword driven half a foot into your knee would make most average people lose the ability to do anything but scream.
    We're just really used to anime fights where unless the move was fatal the minions just keep going.

    • @decidingodin2518
      @decidingodin2518 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      This is like mortal combat when you use the special and break spines and skulls but are still able to do backflips

    • @betababy8545
      @betababy8545 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well so far, half of these dimwits in the comment section apparently are “special” enough to do anything while getting stabbed by a long sword

    • @Carl-ld5jy
      @Carl-ld5jy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Adrenaline would nullify the pain just long enough to land the hit. Y'all need to remember: a blow to the leg doesn't immediately disable the person entirely.

  • @x4virom
    @x4virom 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I dont like that people see Rotoscoping as "cheating" or "not real animation".
    There are a huuuge number of artists that use rotoscoping technique and they all do reaally good and experimental works:
    Michel Gondry / White Stripes; Fell in love with a girl / 2’30’’ / 2002
    Nicolas Provost / Papillon d’amour / 4’ / 2003
    Jonathan Hodgson / Feeling my way / 5’30’’ / 1997
    Bob Sabiston / Snack and drink / 4’ / 1999
    Marc Roels / Concern. 2’ 30’’ / 2000
    Dirk Van De Vondel / State of the art / 30’’ / 1987
    Robert Breer / Fuji / 1974
    Gianluigi Toccafondo / La Coda / 2’ / 1989
    Virgil Widrich / Fast film / 14’ / 2003
    Zbig Rybczynski / Steps / 14’/ 1989
    Jeff Scher/ Ann Arbor film Festival / 40’’ / 1998
    Jeff Scher/ Milk of amnesia / 6’ / 1992
    Joseph Pierce. Family Portrait / 5’ / 2009
    Johannes Timpernagel. Bagatelle I / 1’15’’/ 2011
    George Griffin. Head / 10’ / 1975
    Kijek &Adamski / We Cut Corners “Pirate’s Life” / 2011
    George Dunning / Lucy in the sky with diamonds / 1968
    Laboratorium / La risa funesta / 2’30’’ / 2006
    Lope Serrano / I love you because / 2’48’’ / 2007
    Richard Linklater / A Scanner Darkly / 100’ / 2006
    Lope Serrano / Mujeres - L.A./ 3’ / 2010
    Marçal Forés / The Cheese / 2’ / 2005
    Magali Charrier / 12 sketches on the impossibility of being still / 2010

    • @TailsClock
      @TailsClock 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I love the comparison someone made to it being like mocap in the 3d world. Done well we get GTA 5. Done badly we get Trolland.
      Either way, it's basically like using stabilizers on your bike. It IS cheating no matter how good it looks. And it will always look worse than trained animation. But it is a great way to take a team that lacks artists and make something impressive. It's perfect for small teams, or for student projects, or youtube shorts. But it is "cheating" and it is "not real animation". And yes I loved the Take On Me music video but that was different! When you want to hit that uncanny valley on purpose of hyper realistic yet 2D, yes it's essential. But that shit is ugly in anime.

    • @light_fos
      @light_fos 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TailsClock id agree with you, no matter what people say it is NOT real animation since you're not animating at all you're tracing over stuff. But that isn't to say its a bad thing to do. (It is bad when you do it with someone else work tho).

    • @tvsonicserbia5140
      @tvsonicserbia5140 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TailsClock You are wrong, beause the line is often very blurry, in roto and mocap both, like sure Take On Me and Bakshi LoTR are rotoscoped but are you gonna tell me Snow White or Pinnochio isn't real animation? My point is, rotoscoping and mocap are tools and they require different levels of animation skill to achieve certain effects, even though those skills might be slightly different than animating from scratch, and btw in todays age of digital cameras ALMOST ALL animators film themselves for reference even if they don't directly trace, and nothing is stopping them from popping a few frames of their own footage onto the computer to get a particularly tricky pose or gesture down.

    • @stardoogalaxie9314
      @stardoogalaxie9314 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TailsClock haha that Take On Me animation is Not different if you're gonna stick with that take. The uncanny valleyness just sorta comes with rotoscoping.

  • @matyillesca9589
    @matyillesca9589 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Looks really cool man, also very happy to have you back!

  • @MattO109
    @MattO109 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I think rotoscoping is absolutely fine as long as u own the source material or if ur doing a study of someone else’s work privately. some great rotoscoping happens at the beginning of wade goodalls surf film Pentacostal

  • @JarveyRocksChannel
    @JarveyRocksChannel 3 ปีที่แล้ว +76

    Rotoscoping is only okay when it’s your original footage. Again it’s also okay if you’re learning like you said, but claiming it’s your own work is wrong. Lord Of The Rings (1978) is one of my favorite animated fantasy epics and it’s completely rotoscoped. He just used his own footage unlike that stick figure animation who claimed it was his original work. Great video btw. I been learning rotoscope to make some short films. Honestly I think rotoscoping looks beautiful and creepy but I love it.

    • @CrackedPropane
      @CrackedPropane 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      the combat gods stickman video has the clips used in the credits

    • @nerasomnia
      @nerasomnia 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      What if I did it as a concept? Like using clips from music videos of my favorite group to make an anime intro based on their fictional storyline using their music? Think of it as like fanart.

    • @IAm-zo1bo
      @IAm-zo1bo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      If you don't claim it as your own i don't see a problem after that

    • @tnatstrat7495
      @tnatstrat7495 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@CrackedPropane What a gentlemen. Put credits in the part of the video no one watches and pays nothing to the creator for using the footage. XD

    • @light_fos
      @light_fos 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@nerasomnia Yeah thats okay as long as you put stuff like "(Rotoscoped)" in the title and the description and provide the clips you rotoscoped from in the description. Also its not really like fanart. People need drawing skills to do (good) fanart they don't just trace over stuff..

  • @ironoverheat465
    @ironoverheat465 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great work man! Really great content and the animation looked dope. It's criminal this doesn't have hundred+k views. Keep up the quality stuff and stay safe.

  • @UnliCraft
    @UnliCraft 4 ปีที่แล้ว +63

    If you ever feel brave. Do Kill Bill 2 fight scene with The Crazy 88's

    • @jadavianjohnson5988
      @jadavianjohnson5988 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That movie was awesome

    • @cajs9964
      @cajs9964 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      YOOOOOOOO that would be epic

    • @spookylovely
      @spookylovely 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Only a true masochist who would pull that off

    • @tFighterPilot
      @tFighterPilot 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It's in Kill Bill 1

    • @cajs9964
      @cajs9964 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tFighterPilotI've just reread the top when you said that

  • @DonVigaDeFierro
    @DonVigaDeFierro 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I mean, I believe Naruto also got some "inspiration" from many Bruce Lee fight scenes...

  • @m.wilkinson9559
    @m.wilkinson9559 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome video man! This was some amazing dedication and I think you created a cool scene.

  • @samsonb9092
    @samsonb9092 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh damn my dude this was actually so rad!!! I love the super saiyan part, the impact frame(s?) looks great!

  • @meowsquared
    @meowsquared 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I think what's incredible here is how nicely the scene transitions into animation.

  • @idontneedaname318
    @idontneedaname318 3 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    rotoscoping other people's animations is the dumbest thing ever imo but rotoscoping real life animiton as a technique always looks super cool so it's dope

    • @light_fos
      @light_fos 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      100% Agreed

  • @theclocktower3258
    @theclocktower3258 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fun fact: you can make your own footage to rotoscope, in fact that is more or less its intended use.
    Disney, for example, in pretty much all their 2D animations, used live actors as reference and more or less rotoscoped off of it.
    Just because you're drawing over the footage doesn't mean it has to be traced, you could be rotoscoping just the action, the expressions, the way the camera moves, etcetera etcetera
    If suggest looking up comparisons of the live footage vs animations that Disney made its actually pretty cool

  • @Xonides
    @Xonides 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is hot!
    Good shit Dave, especially considering you’re doing this all on your own and putting serious detail into it. None of that pencil sketch stuff, no stick figures, actual whole ass characters.
    Seriously good shit Dave

  • @onidaaitsubasa4177
    @onidaaitsubasa4177 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Rotoscoping is how they made the entire anime of Flowers of Evil, it was an odd style, but the anime was good, and the flowers looked so pretty with their one eyeball looking at the people.

    • @RayneLovesMovies
      @RayneLovesMovies 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Totally agree! I'm surprised I haven't seen more comments about Flowers of Evil. It's extremely odd to look at at the beginning, but once your eyes get used to it, it's an amazing style and adds a lot of realism to the story imo, a perfect case study to see how important an artstyle is to create atmosphere.

  • @pigz250
    @pigz250 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    when you all pick the same charector in smash

  • @elektro85
    @elektro85 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Man that is A LOT of work - awesome job and good on you for soldiering through it lol.

  • @thatpandathing9142
    @thatpandathing9142 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is ome of the coolest things I've ever seen, your panda avatar/logo thing is everything too, I know absolutely nothing about animation but this was fantastic to watch being made!

  • @theminifirefly546
    @theminifirefly546 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Tbh I was amazed and just laughing so hard but this is really helpful, I'm not the best when I comes to animation but this will help me with lots of fight scenes

  • @EidorianKun
    @EidorianKun 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This is really informative!

  • @jonahromero7476
    @jonahromero7476 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    That looked DOPE! Great stuff, friend!

  • @johnneal9620
    @johnneal9620 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Kool vid. Interesting stuff. The maple story music at the end almost made me cry lol

  • @light_fos
    @light_fos 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Doing 3 seconds of line art in an hour is actually very good pace..

  • @robertcote6672
    @robertcote6672 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Castlevania, The Netflix series - Trevor and Sypha versus the hell demons.
    Also known as: Impact Frame, the fight scene

  • @paraparasuki
    @paraparasuki 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nicely done !! I enjoyed the whole video. Thank you for showing the processes well ! 😊👍🏽

  • @H3115B0N35
    @H3115B0N35 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was very well done. Thanks for taking so much time to make it.

  • @Skullei
    @Skullei 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    My idea of rotoscoping is using it over my own footage of my walking or acting like I'm fighting and making it into something completely different

  • @mobi8046
    @mobi8046 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    When i first watched the combat gods and read the comments.i wondered why no one mention about him rotoscoping. Thank you for pointing out

  • @zachsilby4569
    @zachsilby4569 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ok, idea, use rotoscoping to animate your own show, but instead of just using someone else's footy, you do more work for better payout by filming a choreographed scene how you'd want it in live action, then rotoscope it to the show you want to animate.
    Might be a fuck tonne more work, but with the way I work in basically anything, I feel it'd be a LOT more efficient than worrying about each frame's art look without direct references to how things are supposed to look.
    Dude, thanks so much for making this video, and thanks to the algorithm for showing it to me, because I was wanting to make animations with original characters, but was stressing about like... actually animating them. Now I can just film, rotoscope, then have the video ready. (Won't necessarily work with more overpowered characters or scenes because I'm new to film making and doing super power shit looks complicated.)

    • @leobitencourt4719
      @leobitencourt4719 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Isn't that what he said they did at that one anime ending sequence with the girl dancing?

    • @TheSorrel
      @TheSorrel 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You mean like how the first Lord of the Rings movie did it?

  • @viperhyper5877
    @viperhyper5877 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This turned out really well!

  • @frauelpeh1105
    @frauelpeh1105 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Ok well i do rotoscoping with my own footage.... like i actually record myself or my friends doing stuff and trace that - cuz u know im pretty shit at proportions of the body AND THE MOVEMENT THE FREAKING MOVEMENT
    well it is what it is

  • @remuvs
    @remuvs 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    If only Trunks was that useful in Dragon Ball.

  • @warrenpabbott
    @warrenpabbott 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You know, in part, it may be because you took the time to do this at all, but I think it looks really badass. I can't imagine doing an entire film using this technique, so I just gained a ton more respect for the people who have done so. Props to you, man. Well done.

  • @TheDracoStar
    @TheDracoStar 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I mean... learning what I have about rotoscoping, it seems like a really useful tool for translating certain scenes. In fact, if I were to have a 2D animated film, I'd like some of the scenes to be rotoscoped based on real life footage of some fight scenes that were filmed.
    The reason why I would want that is to make every fight scene in it feel realistic. Same would apply to any musical scenes among other things.
    I feel as though rotoscoping shouldn't be a tool for stealing but rather a tool for translating realistic human function into animated form.
    In a way, rotoscoping is sort of an artstyle itself.

  • @arifakyuz7673
    @arifakyuz7673 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Rotoscoping short strips of live action film was a key innovation in the development of animation by Fleischer studios in the 1920s. Parallelly, rotoscoping can be a useful technique for animation amateurs as a stepping stone for building their skills, only if they do not end up relying on it.

  • @kintheknigh80
    @kintheknigh80 4 ปีที่แล้ว +101

    Take some sceans from the league of legends music videos(awaken,rise,worriors2020,)

    • @gracecapolongo7227
      @gracecapolongo7227 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You mean "scenes"

    • @kintheknigh80
      @kintheknigh80 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@gracecapolongo7227 yeah

    • @SortaSora
      @SortaSora 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      legends of runeterra lore videos*

    • @kintheknigh80
      @kintheknigh80 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SortaSora oh yeah, those exist

    • @Muchacho2DMax
      @Muchacho2DMax 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Why rotoscope another work from the same medium? That seems backwards to me. I'd rather suggest rotoscoping from live-action scenes which makes more sense.

  • @BreadMan434
    @BreadMan434 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am subscribing both due to the entertaining content.
    As well as the dedication and effort put in to just a 14 minute video on rotoscoping

  • @milo12ism
    @milo12ism 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great work, Dave!

  • @FunctionallyLiteratePerson
    @FunctionallyLiteratePerson 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Ngl this was my first time seeing/hearing abt kpop rotoscoping

  • @justinland5713
    @justinland5713 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It wasn't a knee-stab, it was a slash to the major artery which runs along the inner thigh.

  • @frickinfrick8488
    @frickinfrick8488 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Every animated movie ever uses rotoscoping or at least heavily references live action footage. As long as you’re not stealing footage I think it’s a perfectly valid way to animate, and the animation industry certainly thinks so too. If you can film your own footage that would be ideal though.

  • @tonyfoxxbuilds1920
    @tonyfoxxbuilds1920 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    That was awesome. Looks like a great way to learn animation.

  • @StainlessPot
    @StainlessPot 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Wonderful. One thing though... who says "etc" like that?! It's supposed to be "et cetera"!

  • @planetmezo1145
    @planetmezo1145 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    "when is rotoscoping okay? Idk man don't use anyone's copyrighted stuff. watch this other video for more info on that, for now check out this sick thing I made using the witcher!"

  • @jedipathworking
    @jedipathworking 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome video, takes me back to the old old Superman cartoons, loved that style back then, loving to see someone show how its done with another favorite (DBZ). Honestly rotoscoping has a kind of unique feel to it, because we get so use to seeing impossible movements in animation, most humans just aren't as flexible as anime characters in a complex fight scene, and seeing those simple limitations of joint movement and positioning really makes it have a kind of... indescribable but amazing quality.

  • @JimmyDeLock
    @JimmyDeLock 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    That was awesome man, also the MapleStory music at the end...really brought me back to 2004.

  • @sargeanthawk4108
    @sargeanthawk4108 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    you followed the reference TOO closely, I understand that you were trying to %100 rotoscope but the actions feel floaty and weightless. The sense of impact from the live action didn't perfectly translate into animation

  • @mitchelthinks
    @mitchelthinks 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    he the kind of a dude to think doing a master study is stealing and using references is cheating and then wonder why his mediocre art never improves

    • @Necroskull388
      @Necroskull388 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He literally said that rotoscoping is good for learning. And yeah, tracing over other peoples work and pretending it’s completely your own is shitty.

    • @IAm-zo1bo
      @IAm-zo1bo 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Necroskull388 but not pretending it's your own and crediting them is not. But many people still hate them

    • @u-thix2436
      @u-thix2436 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's the joke

  • @ViktorTheMusician
    @ViktorTheMusician 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Okay but that Parallax reversal trick for showing camera turns is INSANE. I'm still learning all these animation things but its clear I've got a lot to learn.

  • @Mistwolfss
    @Mistwolfss 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like it great work on the roto scoping.

  • @TailsClock
    @TailsClock 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Rotoscoping isn't a learning aid. It skips the learning part of art to create a better end result than you would normally be able to do. You skip the tough part of work, which means you skip out on learning. The only learning you get is from viewing a scene over and over and over again frame by frame. This can be achieved without the part where you traced it. The learning aspect of tracing does not exist. This needs to be said without leaving room for the lie to creep in that it's okay sometimes to better yourself. YOU NEVER LEARN FROM TRACING. I say this as someone that spent years tracing, and had to learn to draw entirely from scratch after, only now coming up as a below average artist. What I see in my real art, is that I can improve in a single drawing. The improvement I am making now that I am drawing for real is genuinely visible and huge. Some people say it can t ake years to get good. No. It takes weeks to get good. To takes years to get amazing. And it takes forever if you never put in the work. The tough part of drawing is what makes you learn from it.
    Imagine doing a 5 mile jog. Imagine you drove that distance instead. Imagine saying that it can still help you get fit. This is how stupid it is to say that tracing can improve your art. It's been proven and tested and tried. You never get better by cheating your way to good results. It's the effort part that makes it count as practice. This is also why my 500 stickman comics never made me a better artist. "practice makes perfect" is a lie when you're practicing things you have already mastered. You only get better by doing what you can't do. That's what it means to practice.
    Sorry for the rant. But the comment you made at around 5:30 where you claim it helped you is fucking bullshit, and really unhelpful to everyone watching this. No offense meant. It sounds like you really believe what you said. But there's nothing more damaging to a new artist than to spread that lie.

  • @ssjalpha6593
    @ssjalpha6593 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is why I don’t fuck with the art community. Always complaining about something. Rotoscoping is fine.

  • @mystercraig
    @mystercraig 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your explanation and animation came out awesome 🤙🏼

  • @earlye5011
    @earlye5011 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Damn bro so professionally done it looks as if im watching the beginning of Dragonball Super again hahaha

  • @nemonobody6232
    @nemonobody6232 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    good to see ya back dave

  • @kapf_9465
    @kapf_9465 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Soo good, we need more content like this!

  • @derekdan2170
    @derekdan2170 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    thats awesome. great work

  • @bosley8292
    @bosley8292 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yo the transformation was insane and I really liked the sound. Turning super saiyan sounded really powerful.

  • @dominatoryprograms7296
    @dominatoryprograms7296 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    That looked so amazing

  • @joevszombies
    @joevszombies 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    That was honestly really epic

  • @tecuentoia
    @tecuentoia 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've learned a blast just in less than 15 minutes, thanks man

  • @mikeoxmaul9870
    @mikeoxmaul9870 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That is one of the best looking fight scenes I have seen

  • @Smolotov
    @Smolotov 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cool animation. Very helpful tips. 10/10 vid would watch again

  • @dominatoryprograms7296
    @dominatoryprograms7296 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Now I'm tempted to try using this and make a small skit or something that's so cool

  • @k.sudhagar6943
    @k.sudhagar6943 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Man, you are talented!

  • @zenoks2497
    @zenoks2497 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    God damn! Rotoscoping is also a term in vfx industry and i was very confused when I heard people talking about roto in anime. Crazy, how same terms can be different in different field.
    Btw, rotoscoping in vfx is pretty much the same as you trace the charcter so that you can remove him from background. You must have seen charcters from movie in greenscreen.

  • @ChocolateGold
    @ChocolateGold 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is very inspiring and well done. 💜

  • @kylegarcia4269
    @kylegarcia4269 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Kizumonogatari rotoscoping was so beautiful it made fall in love more with the series

  • @definitelynotizukumidoriya5746
    @definitelynotizukumidoriya5746 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice animation, definitely earned my subscribe

  • @nyx3745
    @nyx3745 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Looks really cool👍

  • @brasil221
    @brasil221 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dude, I'm so impressed by the effort, I'm subbing first view.

  • @Lucy-sl8hq
    @Lucy-sl8hq 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think it turned out amazing! :3

  • @OvExX
    @OvExX 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    thanks for this, dude. its great

  • @itzakitz3855
    @itzakitz3855 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    YOU DID AWSOME BRO (btw I just speeded up the scene to 2x so it looked better) but bro that is awsome dude good job 👏🏾