Smoother animation ≠ Better animation [AI ENHANCED]
ฝัง
- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 18 พ.ค. 2024
- get you the best deals while shoppin' online ▸ www.joinhoney.com/noodle
Honey is FREE and finds coupons with the click of a button. Thanks Honey for sponsoring!
the amount of people who just straight up don't understand the point of this video is absolutely staggering.
HUGE thanks to Doggybag, Dangrips, and Villa for help with the animation.
/ itsdoggybag
/ dangrips
/ hi_blnd
Thanks to Shina for the Appeal painting also
/ fujitheapple
Trigger warning for loud sounds towards the end of the vid.
This was entirely edited, and was supposed to be exported, in 48fps, not 50. Funny thing is, Premiere simply doesn't allow custom frame rates in its export window, despite supporting it as a sequence setting. I could have exported the Premiere file into After Effects and added the sequence to the render cue, but I couldn't because AE threw me an error every time I tried. That, combined with the legitimately unbelievable amount of bugs and errors and crashes left me feeling so exhausted and numb that I ultimately decided it was worth sacrificing one 25th of a second's worth of timing here and there. If you catch any editing errors, that'd be why. Oh well!!
Don't buy Adobe products.
I'm on Patreon and Twitter also;
/ legitnoodle
/ noodlevevo
Chapters:
00:00 - Intro
1:27 - Laying the Groundwork
4:32 - Ad break
5:55 - Timing and Easing
9:52 - Smear Frames But Worse™
11:11 - Wrong Tool for the Wrong Job
13:58 - Outro
Animation used (in order of appearance):
Tom and Jerry
Pixel Art (various)
Cat walk ( / cat_walk_cycle_done_fo... )
Cowboy Bebop
Mulan
Persona 4
300FPS Bowser in cat suit
Spirit (Roughs by James Baxter)
Devilman Crybaby
A Cat in Paris
Wire by Worthikids
Spiderverse
DBZ Fighterz
ParaNorman
Spongebob
Daffodil 3 by Smallbu
Overwatch
Moonlight Fox by Smallbu
JoJo Part 5
XCOM 2
Cafouillage by Tom Law
PokeAwesome
Planet Panic
TMNT 'Don VS Ralph'
Klaus (Lineart by James Baxter)
El Dorado
Naruto
1Samurai Jack Season 5
Dead Leaves
Keep Your Hands off Eizouken
Meet Arnold (Cacani Demo)
'Float' by Pixar
Music used (in order of appearance):
Les Cafes De Paris - Joe E Lee
Apple Kid's Theme - Earthbound
Let the Game Begin! - SiIvaGunner
Noisy Notebook D - Snipperclips
Stage Clear - Wii Play Motion
Good Evening Bossa - Riverworn
Buy Something, Will Ya!? - Earthbound
Stamp Mode - Snipperclips
Apotos (Night) - Sonic Unleashed
Quilty Court - Kirby's Extra Epic Yarn
Just One More Night With You - Thiago
5PM - Animal Crossing New Leaf
Trophy Gallery - Super Smash Bros. Brawl
All the Patrons who helped fund this video:
Goldencub2014
Po
Grimbeanie
Curtis Gerstner
Ferdinand Remenec
Best Boy Kevin
Dayanara Serges
Robert Murray
Jawser78
ANTHONY DUARTE
Mayo
Louden Doney
koriio
Iain Brown
James Queen
Michael Incavo
Octavian
Mr. Monocle
Ack mack
Anxious
Joseph Young
Jelisaveta Milivojevic
Jay
CombatWombat
Cas Harper
dusk
PackWaifu
Andrew Nieto
Lauren Klingele
Connor Travis-Hunter
Liam
Gary Spinrad
Gibsoncook
Giovanni Lupo
Emil Harmsen
Zyroablee
SentientTurtle
Jamichael Folson
Superman
J1411
Dutch223
Juan Meave
Markettt
Mark D Davis
Parker
Magnus Bjerke Vik
Joel
Ethan
Ty Shetler
Nindota
Willis Scothorn
Shaggy_One
Erik
Torbarik
Matthew Lyn
Kyle Julian Van Epps
Sam Cotter
Big Doofy
Yami Shaggy
NickFlowers
Luke Spicer
Jesús Flores
AAAAAAAA
David Velez
MashProTato
Dan Zynski
SaltTea
Geoff Porter
Chili Completionist
FruitSnackBandit
Ameer Flippin
Sparkle_Plant
Amiel
Jason Cummiskey
Wilson Bestic
Robert
Venohawk
Mark
Christina Morley
Devin Strayhorn
Kendrick Soto
Shin Guardian
Doggybag
Adult_Cool
Drew DeVault
Spidey-Tron
Yihéng Jiang
Alex Williams
TITO woods
Anthony Chrétien-Contreras
Clont
Bolexle
Allen Ryerson
Chris Botkin
AP
Greg Baloney
Cojo490
QuiltyPleasures
Chotskies
Matthew Rothmann
Andrew Kisak
Aefre
TheMusicalDoc
Endo Mills
Deblobo
Matt, flamin hot braindead.
Andrew Ross
Cale E
Quiet269
Rocknerrad
Nehkles
TooBad
Jye Francis
Dinah Krone
Monkey218
Thrinmon
Josepheous
Buttsmcgee
HyaDoki
A Tree
Comrade of Homotopia
Kenneth Sabian
BenT
nflatei0n
Luke Shepherd
Daniel Dorfman
Devon Winrick
Zack
ACarr
JonathanShorp
Danny DeVoid of Life
Danny Wolf
Hero The Triggered Aussie
JoystickDrummer
quill
Deneb
Kusinwolf
Alexander Guerrera
Charles Kuzmech
Rachel Han
Ramsey
Christopher Stoll
Jer456
Allison Easley
King Of Hats
Hikiko Kirk
Plantbat
Max Levinton
Kloud
HeckYeck
Jesse Bartels
Redtimecat96610
Jean Machine
Benedikt Müller
Keybladestrike1
Lawrence
Trevor harrington
ReferenceMaker
LuLYeah
Cort
Sorry Officer
Kaltag
Elysium Ervin
inku
EuroPascal
#60FPSAnimation #Interpolation #Sponsored - บันเทิง
Fantastic rant, I love it! And you're absolutely right. I love how you underline the intent of the artist. Those who would seek to replace artists with machine learning and AI clearly don't understand what art is for. Replace stuff that people don't want to do, or can't do. But people get joy (and their livelihood) from creating art, and they want to do it. It's one of the things that make us human. I'm no Luddite, and I love using new tools to create my animation. But when it starts to encroach upon the fulfillment that I get from creating, then no thanks! You might argue that this is just interpolation and chill out. But my response to that is just wait, this is just getting started.
Damn, was not expecting this guy to comment!
jams
Thanks so much for sharing your perspective! And for commenting at all lol. You're an inspiration
I love you James Baxter
!!!! JAMES BAXTER
THANK YOU NOODLE
Go back into the basement and make more animation also be safe
Im the 15 like
@@jairus2008 ok
Hey juny
noodles
As an animator who loves doing in-betweens, smudges, action choreography, and impact frames...
Yes, I also find it very insulting.
Oooo Sad-ist :o
>Dream
lol
Oh hi I was not expecting to see you here :'D
My putting my comment here
you don't need to tell us that you do action choreography. that's literaly all your recent uploads(i meant that in a nice way :) )
Interpolated animation is like picking up a good-looking strawberry, and when you bite into it, it's uncomfortably soggy.
Why is this true
What a perfect description of those few seconds realizing "oh this feels- eeuegh"
no pls that's so disgusting 😭
I like it. I don't understand the hate.
Granted, it can be done poorly. SvP has worked well for me with both animation and film, I think it seriously makes it better and I notice more details.
@@hel2727 😃
Low FPS animation has a very nice, cartoony charm to it.
High FPS animation gives off energy of something that has been worked hard on, and should be taken seriously.
Low FPS animations that have had their FPS boosted by an AI make me feel like I am experiencing eyeball cancer.
from what i've seen, there's this one guy called Neobrane who does these kinds of things, but I'm assuming he does some manual work to make it *actually look good*, and not be a blurry mess
I want my animation to really FEEL like it's real life and real life is garbage so it makes sense
jef
You are so brave😔😔😔😔😔🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌
this guy is onto something
you animate?
@Emmanuel Brijandez Torres Because life is pretty boring for most people, unless you have enough money and motivation to make it not boring
13:56 - He's right.
Great work, this was awesome.
ayy, hey ross !
Thanks a ton, love u ross
Ross. Anyways I saw the price and for some reason I though: "this is a honey ad"
Yo it’s Ross
Love your stuff, hope you're doing well!
This video aged like fine wine.
You were ahead of the times with this video. Ai became such a massive topic of conversation within the past year, I thought this video came out in 2023. Fantastic rants/analysis.
let's appreciate the full lip sync for the whole video
I don't even animate, and I cry for his hands (and sanity) cause of it lol
I mean, it sure helped prove his point. Also I enjoy your content and would like to compliment how good your work/videos are.
THIS
I appreciate the whole video Noodle makes very good videos and with each video he not only grows his funny but also his animations even if he was assisted by other animators
i'm not sure but i think sometimes animators reuse frames or create their own custom "lip libraries" for all common sounds to save on time. I can imagine that this dude would just have to load an image for each mouth frame and that's it, though i'm no animator.
The anamorphs cover was just a perfect analogy.
Agreed
Ikr lol
??
I still have fond memories (aka: sick twisted nightmares) from reading the animorphs book series
Umami I love you and interface keep up the good work
I never knew the illusion of life was known to be the "bible of animation". It's been sitting on my parents shelf for quite a long time, glad to know its useful for all animators!
I find that animated fight scenes are easier to read when you have less frames. Especially for scenes with a lot of stuff going on.
Yeah I’ve seen some of these “smooth jobs” and they ruin the choreography. It’s mainly the blows they ruin. What previously was the strike of a fist or weapon that you could almost feel the speed and weight of as it struck is completely obliterated by jamming frames in. The entire point of less frames was to make that blow seem so fast it couldn’t be perceived by the bare human eye, now it looks like my youngest sister is trying to kill me with a pillow.
My favorite thing is when someone posts a fucking ruined, 60fps anime fight scene where ALL the punches have zero fucking weight to them
Same chief
How right Circle is about something directly scales with the amount of times he says "fuck"
He uses fuck twice, and he's extremely correct, so the rule proves itself.
I've elected to call this phonomonon the "Circle fuck law"
Not to mention Anime OPs you can only find at 60 fps on TH-cam yikes
OOO
The one punch man fights.......
someone reuploaded my animation but with 60fps and got 1 million views before any of my videos did T-T pa i n
P a i n
Also, good to see ya here!
Copy strike it
SUE THEM
Give that vid a copyright strike then!
I am not a animator
Still learning
I agree alot
AI is taking over human jobs
Animation is like emotion
But when AI do it
Its ruin the emotions
I think one of the worst things I'm noticing is how much of a deluge there is of anime openings with "60 FPS 4K HD" on the end because. they're ALL interpolated. I have to look for specifically the anime studio, because it is criminal how sometimes no original, un-interpolated version has been uploaded. it's all been fucked up using interpolation-
No fr and reactors and non fans who wanna check it out gets a butchered clusterfuck for their first experience.
agree, i've seen that happen with jojo ops a lot
Very true. Like I type in "Creditless Opening" and the first results are always "[60 FPS 4K]". Just give me the goddamn original Opening without any credits ._.
dude somewhat off topic but this video looks so goddam buttery smooth and ur lip syncing is actually fantastic
zark I love you
hey zark, love ur animations
hehe sheep man hehe
You're a pretty awesome sheep.
Hey it's that guy who animated that gumball spider thing
When I began animating a lot of my friends (including me) thought that more frames and drawings made better animation. But in almost every case, more frames just loses clarity and weight that the animation had before. If you're a capable animator, you can make shit look good with 2-3 drawings, depending on the motion. I don't know why people get obsessed with everything being 60fps
First furry
cuz *frames*
Beginning to realize this as I learn and experiment with 3D animation
amen🙌
The only channel I find to be much better in 60fps is kurzgesagt.
he tried to warn us
HE TRIED TO WARN USSS
One of the most rewatchable videos i know. Such an interesting topic and perspective that not nearly enough are talking about. Well done.
OH MY GOD THESE ARE MY EXACT SAME THOUGHTS
when musical artists get nightcore versions of their song
Lmao
i hate nightcore, i feel it like an insult
@Aaron Hutton agreed
What is nightcore
I dUnNo, iT SoUnDs BeTtEr tO Me...
“ I don’t like watching an animation..that’s got vaseline all over it”
Why does that make so much sense
@toijg avnnr never stop
Keep going
Hijacking this comment to warn people it's VERY loud at 14:07. Headphone users beware
I feel ya. I feel ya SO MUCH.
Also, I got you to 666 likes.
Exactly. Vaseline is for eating, not video footage
@@condensed_sam finally, I can now ascend
i love the subtle movements of the lines on a character
Just got into animation and realized how fuck8ng hard it is to animate a single-motion so yeah putting it through AI will definitely be an insult to the animator
or if the animator had it to help so work can be done faster
@user-op8fg3ny3j if the animator wants it the animator can use it
@@thehole1 💯. Especially helpful if it's an individual project.
I'd appreciate if it saved me time doing the extra frames (if it made it well)
Even more laughable is when people upload '60FPS videos' where they didn't even use AI interpolation.
They just changed the framerate in the render settings :D
WELCOME TO THE ANIMATION ZONE
I’m giving them the benefit of the doubt and saying they are smart and are covering up the fact that they are stealing an animation for views while doing nothing, which is horrible
Love your Chanel :)
Execution by excessive framerate.
Animation is my passion
Thank God someone finally said it
wait why isn't their any replies on this ?
@@omarbkhaitan3106 wait why is there only one reply on this?
@@thatweirdguy8810 wait why are there only two replays on this
uhhh we have been saying it for a long time for the record us pc gamers are the ones that have been pushing this and we always ALWAY mean natural 60 (at least) is better but yeah unnatural frame skipping like he is talking about is dog shit.
I'm actually so happy right now. This trend has actually made me more mad than.... most things? And I'm glad it's finally be called out.
I like to think this video was a very important part in how we appreciate animation and keyframes now
As a translator, I vibe with this video whenever someone asks me why I ask money for something Google Translate does for free.
Lol, anyone who thinks Google Translate is accurate definitely isn't fluent in a second language.
@@christopherklute1606 aaaaand that's why I'm making an effort to learn Japanese! Though, sometimes a robotic translation works too- if applied right.
@@user-im9zp4yp9x Yeah... and it's not going to be Google Translate, it's going to be commercial AI-based translators trained on a specific domains such as "computer science books" or "Shakespeare".
@@clray123 The reason Google translate doesnt work as well as it needs to for human standards is because of the model it uses to translate. They use transformer models, which are giant networks of what are called attention matrices to try to be able to understand language and especially context. And with hundreds of millions of datapoints and months of computation time spent training on the most powerful supercomputers in the world these models can only get somewhat close to being accurate. And these models are approaching a limit as to how good they can be, as in order to increase accuracy for Google translates model by 0.15%, the amount of data used must be doubled. They're experiencing diminishing returns. That's because they dont model language the way that language actually exists, the way that humans and linguists have been modeling language for thousands of years - by turning sentences into dependency trees. Using dependency trees and starting from a linguistic standpoint rather than a computational standpoint to model language the way humans understand it is the way to go to create a translation model that can exceed the current models capabilities with far less time, data, and resources.
Absolutely XD
"heres a picture of a little man, he's doing well and i'm proud of him." - I will die for him.
We should protec the little man at all cost!
LMPA Little Man Protection Agency when?
Sam
Dog: *sad noises*
I've seen this video more than 3 times by now, but the robot bit at the end never fails to scare the shit out of me
jesus christ dude, this was your first video I watched and you almost killed me in the outro part '-'. loved the contet btw XD.
Same here
Thank god someone said it
I remember when Spiderverse came out and some people were saying that the low frame rate was to "save money" aS IF THAT'S HOW ANYTHING WORKS
WAIT PEOPLE ACTUALLY SAID THAT I didn’t watch it but even I know that’s not why there is a low frame rate
People these days have a serious case of superiority complex with any kind of knowledge. And then when faults are pointed out they double down and say they're write despite visual evidence to the contrary. Like petulant children.
I mean... the framerate did look a bit weird and choppy but it was still a kickass movie so I didn't complain
@@LowKiiSavage I think that was the point to make it look more like a comic book style
I hated watching that movie. Sped up the "artsy low fps" parts because its fucking dumb and hurts my head. Things should be 144hz not fuckin 5hz especially if its rendered on a fuckin computer. The actual movie was great but I will never watch it again.
The man, the hero.
The legend, you mean.
@@sperinthalakkat9831 the god
literally who?
The flippin' long thingy made of wheat and water and whatever.
Wait ur alive
Oh boy, I bet Noods has some CHOICE words about Sora.
You know its gonna be an epic video when there is a dwarf named noodle accompanying you.
I thought I was just being an old man when I thought interpolated animation looks like ass. Glad I'm not alone.
Same
Yeah same I rather have Low frame When Watch old animation? wait what?
@@aidendoesado3624
Neither do me sorry I wake 24 my brain is not in a good state so you see something I don't even know what I'm doing.
I mean I was awake for 24 hour so yeah that.
When I saw it on twitter I thought "It looks weird, funny but weird" then it just went worse
Finally Noodle makes a video at 50 fps, I always thought his other work looked choppy but now it's buttery smooth!!!
Pão com ovo
Wait you're real? I thought noodle made you up for a joke in his crunch video
Punk Dunk? Here? Wow
@@Black-sy7dlpau com ovo
How to....surprise an audience
After watching this video I went to amazon and bought the animation tips book, thanks for the recommendation. Take a sub.
I like how in the end in the “robot takeover” his animation turned interpolated
I apologize Noodle I will be better
gamers, amirite
Be better
Thank you Gamer
Did you change your name for DA MEME yo GOAT
You better be
I love how the title has "[4K 60FPS]" just so the algorithm targets the people who watch those kinds of videos.
Defeating the computer at its own game!
And then the video is capped at 50 fps looool
And I assumed it worked because rn it has 4.7 million views
@@BertoPlease That makes no sense, is he in the UK?
@@BertoPlease It's at 50 cause its the double of 24. It's a joke (maybe), plus he animated his stuff at the correct framerate while being able to show the interpolated footage as well.
Totally agreed. I like my *games* at high framerates, but not my movies and tv shows. I always called it the 'cinematic feel' but yeah, this. :D
8:55 Can't get enough of the swrsdcsdw movement
"60fps is good, when the animator intends it"
never have i agreed with something so much
I agree to a certain point. With higher HRz in media and technology it's often jaring for me to watch something old at 12 - 24 frames. It looks stuttery when watching something that was made for 60fps or higher then watching something that's old. Almost like bad stop motion at times. Dragon Prince on Netflix was like that for me even if people liked it, I couldn't get into it. But I do agree that an AI doing inbetweens is an inaccurate way to fix this.
@@Arkken most anime are done in 24 fps and it doesn't look jarring you sound like someone who wants to play a game in 144hz on a 60hz monitor
Yeah, Agree
@@takashimizutani1808 Maybe not to you, but it does to me. Also 60 fps is pretty standard. Going above that is extra.
@@Arkken
Games fixed at 30 FPS: hi, how are ya?
This entire episode is just a mood by itself. My animator brain short circuits whenever people actually try to argue that the 60fps Fantasia (and literally anything else) is better than its original.
Yoo look who i found! Love your channel guys
My brain short circuits when dumbass animators that barely got through grade 12 math compare motion tweening to machine learning and then go yOu mIgHt nOT sEe tHe diFFerEnce BuT yOU Can FeEl iT! Muh fucking animator feelings, muh fucking creativity. You people are fucking wild.
@@fohex40 You speak like a 15 year who just discovered 4chan
@@walpang8968 Watch out. He got thru 12 grade with ease man. I'd tread carefully if i were you. Can't you see how smart and mature this man is?
fohe x Ooh look at me! I'm a miserable tosspot who lost touch with feelings and I think i'm on top of the universe. Shut up.
That was the best segue into a sponsorship that I’ve ever seen
Whoa! That shot at 9:41 is so smooth, I can feel the skill of the animator
Oooooh that’s why I look at these videos and feel awful about them! The tween choppiness is horrible
everybody gangster til the artistic integrity of the style being displayed to the viewer turns into a jackson pollock painting
Oh my god, its the Minecraft music man
2 replies 2 hours ago wait
I wasn't expecting C418 himself to be commenting on this kind of video
Literally gives me a headache
Yoo C418
"but it's smoother!" yeah, well, so's my brain.
self burn!! ooh those are rare!
@@procrastinatorqueen pfft, the only thing burning around here are my eyes, when I see my hideous face in the mirror.
@@basedbattledroid3507 bro... u good?
@@basedbattledroid3507 that's some pink guy shit right there
I just had this recommended to me.
I am one of those gamers you mentioned, but I can 100% relate to how you feel because I grew up gaming at 60FPS. (Well, 50 because I’m Australian but that’s another can of worms.)
60FPS combined with simple gameplay resulted in VERY precise controls. The push for 30FPS because “It looks better now!” at the cost of control infuriates me to no end! And there are even “remasters” of games like Tales Of Symphonia that half the framerate!
What I’m saying is, the next time you get one of these gamer types saying “This would look better at 60FPS” tell them that’s like you telling them their game would look better at 12FPS.
They’ll probably have an aneurysm.
The interpolated shot of you had no magic, i like ur little janky movements :(
Its imperfect and nice :3
2:44 ''the mind fills in the gaps between them'' this extremely important, imagine an AI adding extra words and sentences to your favorite book to help you understand whats going on...
Good Point but not every addition of ai is good though, imagine adding 1 word to a sentence or word that completely changes the whole idea.Sometimes human just needs to be human
@@inliothixie Pretty sure that was their point
I'm trying to think what it would be like if we did that with comics. Twice the art by dividing each panel into two! Except the AI doesn't understand panel shapes, sizes, where to split dialogue, how to frame each panel, etc, etc. That would NOT be an improvement!
Example:
Then, as George ran moved away from a the chicken animal rooster, blah blah blah
it's the difference between an audio book created with text to speech and a talented voice actor.
60fps Mulan: 5 mil views
The criticism: 6 mil views
Mulan's now got 6 million at the moment.
@@concept5631 this video still has 400,000 more though
@@BlueverseGacha Good.
@@concept5631 Good.
Good
Best transition to sponsorship I've seen lol. "that's expensive" *honey sponsorship* perfection
bro I was relaxing, kind of zoning out near the end of your vid, and you scared me so hard I think I saw a glimpse of the 4th dimension
I was so ready for this video to be a slide show of poses, but god dang you animated the whole thing, that's super impressive!!
agreed it kind of caught me off guard
JEEZ Shooch, way to point out
Love Dog btw
yea, but is wasn't very smooth tho.
Nice Dan pfp
He always does that
My initial reaction as a not-really-an-animator was "hey I wouldn't mind" and then I realised that if I had put time into specifically animating something a certain way only for somebody else to come along and be like "hey look I iMProVeD IT" I would probably pop a blood vessel
You made my day with this comment haha
yea true
Yes, for me the biggest problem with all of that is that most of those people who interpolate OTHER'S animation, they think they are better than the animators themselves, they think they are improving this and that they are good at what they do.
they dont
its not the OmG I ImpROveD iT which annoys me, its that the animation looks like shit
@@macaronmunch793 Well, i think its a mix of both. Like the fact that people ruin the animation and still thinks they are the best and that improved the good hard work of an animator
Bro at the end I got jumpscared so hard I fell out of my chair
Oh how far AI was gotten in the last 3 years. It's frightening..
It's not gotten any better for stuff like this bro, I don't know what you are yappin about.
@@BreadTeleporter002 he talk about sora ai bro
Video title: 4K 60FPS
Video: 1080p 50FPS
lmfao great video
huh what real 7 minutes ago wtf
Ok
Oh hello there nathaniel
Nathaniel fucking Bandy everytime
no
big respect for the fact that he literally has "ad break" as a chapter and lets you easily skip it
But why would you. He did such a great job animating it
AD IS AD!!!
@@nerdoftheseasonnwibani2456 see but skipping the ad is not cool
I didn't even notice it cause sponsored block but that was very cool of him.
@@outofideasexe i don't have to skip the ad the computer does it for me. since i installed a plugin. /shrug.
As someone who wants to learn animation I comletly agree!
(just letting everyone know!)
............
I think honestly the ppl just dont realize this unles its a side by side
(Also i got a bit later in the vid 13:04 just the "god gamers suck" is so true bro it isnt bout framerate its about the game just like its not about the size its about the personality)
“This whole shot is interpolated did you even notice”
I’m proud of immediately noticing
same my first thought before it came up was. um.. tf.
Yeah, same, I was paying close attention to the details of this dude's animation since the moment I clicked on the video. I saw the interpolated shot and I was like "YUP! THAT'S THE SHITTY ONE!"
And that’s the thing, it’s not even hard to notice, especially when you know what the original looks and feel like.
I didn’t even notice lol
Same I knew something was up xD
I commented on a video that used less that 12 fps before saying it was smooth and immediately my comment replies were filled with "bro thats only like 10fps, not smooth", but like, i commented it was smooth cause its impressive animating something smoothly with low fps hsiwjosjsidbaks idk where im goign with this comment
Yes
Up my van you’re going
people are obsessed with BeTTeR FRamE rATes?
The keyboard smash and the part after were really unnecessary for this comment, lol
Yea thats the point its sooo so ahagsbshsn
Every time I watch this video I notice the flaws in the interpolated animation more and more
You have forever ruined my eyes and now i cannot shut up about frame rates
Thank you noodle
Those 60fps videos have largely just been a source of content scraping for reuploaders.
Gotta get those free hits.
The thing I've always said is that smooth animation hinges on the intent and the motion itself. You can have smooth looking animation playing at 8 fps if it looks natural enough.
yeeeee 1st
@@duality2398 lmao what
why
This is the most *sensical* comment on this video.
@@fenrirwolf4157 I’m sorry I had to
wait wtf, Zedrin ?
This is the animation version of bass boosting everything
24->60: Bass boost
12->144 Bass fry ear-r*pe
Those f*cking "8D version!!!" that are just a stupid 360 pan around of the song hgnnnnnn
Nah nah, this is more like, slowing and adding reverb type of shit
never seen shit this accurate before
let's not forget about nightcore and daycore
god, why do people have no fucking taste nowadays
i love how goofy your animations look. its so much better than it being smooth
As somebody who tweens for animations, I separate the body parts, make sure to have multiple expressions and don’t make it go to the target automatically, I make the character move a little frame by frame and add character/personality to it along the way :D
Horror idea: everything is normally animated at 24 fps, but the monster is animated with an alternating 12/48 frames.
Honestly it would be a good way to make things look unnatural. Kind of like how all the mechanical bits in Treasure Planet were CGI and anything organic was hand drawn
See, this is a good use for it
If I ever make a creature from beyond our dimensional perspective, like an angel or eldritch being I'll try that out. I expect it will portray well
good idea!
If we ever get another Volume of Love, Death & Robots, that should be used in an episode.
Wait wait, i agree with all this video, an dI love it, but isn't like a way to interpolate timing on animate? like to add a curve and make it the same timing?? (still with less liveness which is the point of that part)
_Sir Pelo Scream_
omg its pelito
I’m honestly unsure-
From what I recall of my poo brain level animation, I know that you can use a curve graph in after effects to do what you are talking about. We used it in my college to make a ball bounce smoothly without having to animate each frame. So I imagine Animate would also have that or something similar built in.
To utilize this with the little man, you could theoretically attach all his body parts separately together using anchor points/null objects, and then "pull" him by animating the torso or head to the end point. Using the curve graph and motion blur, it would essentially be like a rag doll, with the option of fine tuning each limb.
Please note this is all based on my limited knowledge pool, I could be wildly incorrect about most or all of what I am talking about.
Sr pelooooo yes
That was the best 14 minutes of the week. Engaging, and explains things in a way that is just-enough-tech-but-not-brain-breaking. Well done.
The humour bits got me too, especially paying off the friend for the Honey ad.
13/10 frames of review goodness.
so happy that it's over, but I can still rewatch your videos
these straight at your face "I need money" "they need clout" type sponsors are my jam, realism at it's finest.
Feels better than the whole ad bit cus like c’mon Man U know you’re getting payed for this no need to have this unspoken pretend gam
@@AviciPerry either my reading comprehension fails me, or people just like to go off topic, the first reply was admiration. Your comment is telling me either something about ads (not in this video) or you disagree with this sponsor. At least this is what my understanding tells me. Either way makes no sense, since this channel does not pretend. Like I said these straight at your face (badly acted (on purpose bad) ads are my jam as in I agree I like them, they are honest, we, they and obviously the sponsor know what is up, when it is done so “fake” Channel need money, brand needs clout. Honest deal. Realism, opportunistic.
I always noticed that weird smearing in between many frames of “enhanced” animations. Glad I found someone who put it into proper terms.
Deep-fried inbetweens? : D
@@AstonWildsteel yes that is the official term
I have some news: AI's like RIFE don't do this anymore, unless the frames are too different or your going past 2x
Do you know impact frams in anime? Or maybe the way flip books go? Well ai changes that from it having that jittery feel that makes them good and have personality, to smooth and lifeless.
this is so relatable i would say it would be like taking a perfectly fine drawing and scribbling all over it thinking it looks good. ITS GOOD ONLY IF YOU USE IT CORRECTLY! (impact frames, movement in drawings and not animations, etc.)
Interpolated animation always looked so wonk to me but I couldn't put my finger on why it did. Well now I know why.
Hjgg
@@jrurbbehdidiwdnndjduw85eos73 OH LOOK ITS SHWERPY!
Yeah me to ikr
Never expected to find you here lol
Now go get your college work done or smth
Yoooo shurpee 😳
Can't wait for a madlad to turn this whole video into 60FPS
i'm doing it lol
@@harshsrivastava9570 evil
@@harshsrivastava9570 you son of a~
sus
On it
Your animation looks really cool, it's looks like simple but it's not simple, it blows my mind
Hard😊
3 years later, and I can confirm, AI has *not* gotten better with time.
Bro lives at bikini bottom cuz there's no way
@@AsdrubaleAsdrubalini-nh4boIt hasn’t gotten better at this. An ai can’t make an animation 60 fps and make it look good. It’s guaranteed to fuck up frames and make it look shitty.
@@AsdrubaleAsdrubalini-nh4bo we're talking about this interpolation software, it hasn't gotten better. Neither has ai art imo. AI art has just been getting fed people's artwork so they can steal someone's entire style or make their own art off of someone elses' hard work. AI hasn't gotten any better (at least interpolation and art ai in general, sora is okay I guess), the art looks the same as like week one of its release and the interpolation is just as bad as always.
That jumpscare at the end is scary, but scariest part was that he used the AI
Thank you for the warning before I watched it
@@J.L_art i got a warning and still jumped
I read this, completely forgot during the video and I got scared xD
Bro I started to read this comment then the jumps are happened lmfao still got me
@@SlyFunkyMonkey same
"this is 24 fps, this is 48. look close. you see the difference"
yes the difference is that turning my quality up to HD actually crashed my computer
Lol! Sorry for that
Is that actually true 😂
@@macropie45yearsago18 yes because my computer is old and sad
@@eastdakota6954 dang. Hopefully you can get a better one
@@eastdakota6954 my google crashes every time i put a video on anymore than 480p, c'mon bro come with the shit computers gang
Sometimes i wish i can watch animated things one frame at a time
Same bro
Same here
The interpolation on the explosion at the end was a nice touch
“Water boarding it in ketchup” is the single most fabulous phrase I have ever heard and I’m stealing it
Had to pause the video to laugh on that one.
The quality of this analogy is top notch
I plan to use it, as well.
"Why do you say that animation isn't good?"
Me: "It's waterboarded in ketchup."
As a computer scientist, the problem isn't that AI can't do animation, it's that computer scientists aren't animators.
That's why the only program made for animators actually works, I guess. They probably either took in animators or were animators themselves.
@@chrisheartman9263 well, making a toolset is different than making a program that successfully creates something out of nothing. Toolset programs only need to know ''what'' to do, whereas somewhere in an AI it also needs to know ''how'' and particularly with video ''when'' to do stuff, making it severely more complicated.
Exactly. Ai is usually never the problem, it's how it's used.
Even in software engineering, people have said at some point code will write itself. That hasn't happened (at a decent scale anyway) because someone needs to actually design a program.
Same with animation. AI can't do shit if the animators don't set a solid foundation.
Anyway you look at it, AI can just be an optional tool for animators.
@@HiddenRealm Jesus Christ bro I'm not reading that.
@@HowlGough lol
fuck that sponsor was one of the best I've ever seen
you may have even surpasses icecreamsandwich
They're 2 sides of the same coin
The ADHD coin
@@user-pt5cl2ro6f also I have realized they collaborated once and it was beautiful
I was not expecting the ending to be so much more loud then the rest. So because of that it woke up my baby sister.
This is the animators equivalent to the whole “fixed your art” shit
@Double-Edge man shut up
Right??
@Double-Edge found the Twitter user
@Double-Edge I think we know what side you're on.
@Double-Edge Cutting yourself on those Double Edges a bit much?
THANK YOU! It's about time someone brought this up. I feel like a lot of people don't understand that animation being 60 FPS (or more) isn't really the problem, but rather these algorithms that do a terrible job at interpolating the frames. If a talented animator decided to animate in 60 FPS and made every frame with attention and care I'm sure the end result would look fantastic. The higher frame rate just wouldn't usually be worth the effort. Maybe someday there will be an AI that can create perfect inbetweens but it would need to understand on a human level what the animation actually represents and how it should move.
Edit: Though even then it wouldn't really suite all animation styles.
Isn't it ironic too how most of your animaton is done with interpolation yet it fits the style perfectly
Uncle Donald
And at that point, if an AI really *understood* art, if it could learn and knew pretty much everything humans did, wouldn’t it basically be sentient? I wouldn’t want to make an AI do that, simply add a few frames to someone else’s work, so perhaps it’ll really never be possible
@@justseffstuff3308 art is subjective
I think AI would definitely be able to replace inbetweener animators as they would be able to find patterns we wouldn’t be able to even comprehend. With enough time they would be able to figure out animation and people wont be able to tell the difference between AI and an animator.
I hate that it’s sometimes easier to find anime openings on YT at 60 fps rather than the original, it ALWAYS looks worse and you can tell immediately
they can dodge copy-strikes by interpolating the footage.
Every year this video becomes more and more relevant as AI grows more and steals more
“And you know it’s gamers”
I have never been so offended by something I a hundred percent agree with
Specifically it's gamers who don't understand there's a time and place for maximizing frames. :L
Yeah we really need to learn that high frame rates only really matter in games
I just don't get the obsession, but then I largely can't tell the difference and when I can the higher ones are jarring to look at.
But then I grew up on CRT TVs and prefer indie titles ( potato computers most my life and the rise of microtransactions), but outside that field most media isn't meant to go that frame rate. I basically have next to no experience with it so it looks like something is playing wrong when I do see it.
Leaving things as the creators intended is generally how I like things anyway, the only real exceptions being if you can't get it that way without spending an arm and a leg or it's not possible. Niether really applying to this.
Probably PC gamers to be more specific
I’m on Xbox one X I run 120 FPS with my monitor and if I ever switch it down to 60 FPS which I have a few times by accident it feels like your lagging almost or something is just off
"here's an image of a little man, he's doing very well, and i'm proud of him."
god looking at frogs from above
yes.
just yes.
perfect 👌
amazing
espectacular
excellent
cool
nice
9:37 oh my god i get what your saying, the ai distroyed the lip-sync
i remember watching this a long while ago and just got it on my fy again lol (i rewatched the entire video just to agree on it all the time)