@@purplemicrodot58It is ! TFA is nothing but ANH with different characters. I was bored watching it, and the only thing I liked about it was Daisy's performance.
The sad truth is that Solo isn't a bad film at all, it's not great but it's watchable. It's really The Last Jedi that killed Star Wars and it's the reason Solo tanked at the box office.
If it come out before the last Jedi it would’ve been a hit but then people would’ve hated the last Jedi Even MORE! Because of the quality of solo and I don’t know if you can hate The last Jedi more than it has been
Main reason: Backlash. It immediately followed The Last Jedi which many fans not only hated but saw as an assault on the Skywalker Saga itself. Solo was the first Star Wars movie I didn't see in a theater but it's one of the few I own on 4K BR. Irony.
Yep. Overall, Solo isn't *that* bad of a movie, but coming on the heels of Rian Johnson's, The Last Jedi totally doomed it. (And yes, it must be referred to as "Rian Johnson's, The Last Jedi," lest we forget how he knew nothing about Star Wars and how complete shit the movie is.)
@@bobfalfa62 It didn't destroy the brand. If Disney had played its cards right afterwards, things woulve been fine. But Kennedy's sabotage of Mandolorian and firing of Gina Carano is what really killed Star Wars.
I actually enjoyed Solo because it didn't take itself too seriously and wasn't hinged upon a single family. Everyone looked like they were having fun making it, and the lead captured a young, inexperienced Han Solo well. All the issues I blame on Disney for not having the balls to try something new. It was certainly better than Episodes VII-IX.
The actor also did not channel Ford in any way shape or form. They casting was terrible. Fucking Childish Gambino as some fruity version of Lando... WOKE droids. PLEASE.
Solo, despite all the problems and more listed here , is still better than the absolute crap served up in the 3 recent films, also the tv shows Disney spew out now, terrible dog dirt
I love SOLO, and think it's one of the most re-watchable of all the SW films. I love the Jedi-free exploration of the shady criminal side of Star Wars. The epic atrociousness of The Last Jedi is what drove audiences away. I'd love to see more of the Q'ira/Darth Maul crime syndicate story, and I loved the parallel of young Han to young Luke, Luke being the hero who embraced his Hero's Journey, and Han being the hero who refuses the call.
You can add Don Glover opening his trap 1 week before opening, about Lando being a “pansexual” kind a guy, essentially retconning a beloved OT character. Disney even had to drag poor Billy Dee into the mix, and make him set the record straight.
The Last Jedi happened. I'm a huge Star Wars fan but I was done after that fucking movie, luckily friends convinced me to go to Solo, and I saw that Star Wars was still awesome.
I don't like when I hear someone say that the Han Solo movie was one that "nobody wanted". There's a whole generation of people who definitely wanted that movie!
Good actors, good director, good production value, bad story I would have liked to see an adventure that ends right where Han meets Luke and Obi-Wan in the cantina, like Rogue One ended right where New Hope began. That would have been cool
Ep.7 was ok. Ep.8 was horrible. And that’s being polite. Ep.9 was the only Star Wars I’ve never rewatched whatsoever. Rouge One was GREAT. Solo was my favorite Disney SW, but not as good as Rouge One.
@@BrianOfTarth-f2vhuge assumption on your part. Perhaps the family was introduced to og Star Wars and entire family all agreed sequel trilogy was trash after Rian poisoned the well.
@@snyper5150 I agree totally with this, your words could have been written by me! One difference however is that I turned off Ep.9 halfway through and so have never seen the end of it.
The only person to blame for Solos failure was Kathleen Kennedy...she knew what she was getting with her first choice of directors....then replaced them with 70 percent shot...then very little marketing then a bad release date...this is all on one person
Solo failed for two main reasons; people boycotted the movie out of protest against the piece of crap called The Last Jedi where Disney basically bastardised the franchise. The other let down was that the actor bared no resemblance to Harrison Ford whatsoever.
I can agree with this though the actor did a fairly good job, However, I believe they could have gotten just as good a job or better with an actor that looked more like Ford. Same story with Lando.
The Phoebe Waller-Bridge effect was on full display too. That woman is a wrecker where beloved franchises are concerned. She did the same thing to Indiana Jones and James Bond.
_Rogue One_ felt like a love letter to _Star Wars_ fans. In contrast, everything else Disney has produced under the _Star Wars_ banner has felt like a slap in the face.
Disney screwed up the Star Wars legacy beyond belief. Solo was a darned solid movie in and of itself, but Disney had destroyed the public trust/expectation in the franchise and people avoided this film. It’s unfortunate because the movie is far from terrible.
Nobody wanted Han’s backstory. His being an unknown non-force user made him intriguing. Imagine making a movie that gives details to The Man With No Name in the “Dollars Trilogy”
The flaw of Solo was the relationship of Qi'ra. Solo being a romantically motivated rogue, takes away from his edge. It also adds 15 minutes to the beginning of the movie. Start the movie with Solo entering battle linked with Beckett, and the movie improves a great deal. I would've preferred having them explore more to his 'frienemy' relationship with Lando.
I kind of think the romance added to his character, he’s younger and more naive. It shows him experiencing the betrayal that gave him his “edge” thats the Han Solo we’re more familiar with
I great idea I read somewhere was to bring Billy Dee Williams, and Donald Glover together for a Lando anthology series. Each episode would have old Lando start a story about some trouble he got into, and then out of, and then young Lando would be seen having the adventure.
Of the Disney Star Wars movies Solo is second on my list right behind Rogue One . I found it to be a fun movie with great characters. And after the last jedi you could have put out a Jabba the hut movie and people would have liked it more .
Fan reaction to the abysmal The Last Jedi unfortunately killed this one dead in the water. I only saw The Last Jedi once and have no desire to see it again. Perhaps I ought to give this another go although it didn’t leave a lasting impression on first viewing.
Considering how "beloved" Han Solo is, Disney didn't waste any time killing him off in The Farce Awakens. To me that makes the Solo movie akin to pissing on his grave and then robbing it.
I remember renting this film and bringing it to a party. No one wanted to see it after the Last Jedi and no one had gone to see it in theaters. I had turned it on to offer another route of entertainment and by the end of the movie the room was full with pretty much everyone sitting and watching the film. We ended up agreeing that it wasn't actually a bad film and was actually quite entertaining. If this film had waited till December I bet it could have made double what it did.
I really like Solo, and it’s one of my favourite things Disney has done with Star Wars. I’m guessing not everyone wants a Han Solo origin story, but I enjoy it for its aesthetics and pretty good cast. Shame that it largely went forgotten.
Thank you for acknowledging the problem with the release date. This frequently gets ignored in many analyses of the failure of this movie, and I really do believe that it is the main reason that it bombed. Had it come out in December with a proper promotional push (and some time to distance itself from the poor reaction to Last Jedi) it would probably have been a moderate success. But instead, they sandwiched it in the week between Deadpool and Avengers and it simply got lost in the shuffle. It's a shame because, despite its troubled production and numerous flaws, it's still a pretty decent movie.
Ironically, Fox moved Deadpool 2 to give solo room. While Fox wasn’t owned by Disney yet, there was cooperation between the studios about the release and who got the imax and large format screens. Deadpool 2 was originally to release June 1, a week after solo. By moving a week before, it insured solo had the premium format screens Longer than a week, thus attempting to bolster its revenue. Too bad it didn’t work.
One thing that was very annoying to me about Solo was how visually dark it was.. Maybe that’s more of an issue with my old eyes, but man this movie was allergic to light..
I think that following Last jedi really didn't help. People thought that was rubbish, Then this came out soon after. So fans showed how they felt by not going to the cinema.
Another problem is that it wasn't the right story. It should have been more "Smokey and the Bandit", less "Ocean's 11". The GotG vibe might have been perfect. But the wikipedia feel of it was my major issue with it. It just didn't feel like an organic story. And the Kessel run was just stupid. We already knew he survived, why would they think there was any tension there?
The worst thing that happened to Solo was The Last Jedi. The Last Jedi sucked so no one wanted to see Solo. Solo is a good movie filled with tons of wicked Star Wars moments.
They named him solo because he was travelling solo, alone. Terrible. It would be better if he came from a tribe, country, or planet called solo. Also he lost his love at the beginning of the film when reunited none explained what happened.
There was no need to have Solo NOT be his real last name. Had they gone with the lore of him having been in the Imperial Academy and walked away, then that might have made sense for Solo to be an alias. As it is, it should have just been his real name.
Nothing went wrong. After Rogue One, this is the best of the new wave of Star Wars films and the fact it turned out so well despite a troubled production should be celebrated. Also, those people saying it was a film no wanted could not be more wrong. I'd been waiting for more Han Solo stories for 40 years!
They lost me at name "Solo"... Him magically knowing the Wookie language... Come on. It would have been so much more entertaining watching Han learn and continue to misunderstand Chewie. I was simply lazy.
They absolutely BLEW the Han Solo casting. They had Anthony Ingruber and passed on him over Alden? That's all it took. Also, I don't think anyone actually needed it. Lots of good elements in the movie, but no, it's not good.
@@leegilliss9431 They were thinking it would be good to have someone who could actually act rather than someone who just had a passing resemblance to Harrison Ford...
For me there is no Star Wars fatigue or Super Hero fatigue. There is bad writing, filming and editing fatigue. The fans are fatigued of BAD movies not to many movies. The Force Unleashed should have been made canon. Starkiller's story should have come before Rouge One. My .02
06:49 no, it wasn't "Star Wars fatigue". That's hiding the elephant in the room. t was simply that The Last Jedi upset so many fans that it put them off seeing more Disney Star Wars.
My biggest problem is that they reduced everything we know about Han Solo to one week of his life. It completely trivialized all of his stories. Han's story should've easily been enough to fill multiple movies, each telling a grand story behind one aspect of his beloved character. Instead of having a full rich backstory, this movie tells us that Han is a boring guy retelling one big week of his life. While all of the other 6 points are true, the biggest travesty of this film was the writing. It was a horrible story that crammed too much into too little.
4:15 - Michael K Williams replaced with a totally different actor? Jeeeeeze. That just shows how many scenes/takes were NOT shot ... and so Mr Williams' character couldn't even be used in the slightest. Damn! I liked the movie as a decent 6/10 .... but I know it could've been an 8.5/10 with the right people behind it, the correct script being used, the best funding, and the right cast behind it...!
There's only one reason - The Last Jedi was pure shite and immediately afterwards, hard core Star Wars fans walked away in staggering numbers. Anything else is spin or copium.
Han Solo doesn’t need a back story. We already know it. We can imagine it better. The movie Solo delves into stuff we don’t need to see. Or hear. So you mean to tell me one of the universe’s truly loved characters got his name from an Imperial recruiter? Han Solo let someone else name him Han Solo? Not my Captain Solo. All these back story series weaken the characters. “General Kenobi, you fought with my father in the Clone Wars… “ “Don’t remember, ok how about this: Remember me, Leia? I was your annoying companion like 10 years ago when I was 12, yeah, same Leia, I’m a princess now, yup, jog your memory yet? How many Leia’s do you know?” We watch one time because we are a fan. Expand the Star Wars universe, we don’t need a greatest hits movie (SW:TFA) or a counter cannon alternative (Acolyte) to what we already know and love. No hate. Just feedback.
There are millions of Americans who owe their last names to the clerks at Ellis Island. So the fact that Han got his name from an intake officer on his way to flight school doesn’t bother me at all.
I am still somewhat perplexed by Hollywood's fascination with the concept of a prequel. By the very nature of a prequel the story telling scope is limited. Even when they try to stick within continuity they always stuff it up and generally prequels end up having Dickensian levels of coincidence. I think I would be willing to say at this point I don't think there has been a good prequel film in any franchise ever.
I'd accept it more if a young Harrison Ford's face was CGI'd throughout the film and the Millennium Falcon looked a bit more like it did in all the other Star Wars movies.
The only problem I had with solo with Star Wars story was the red Dawn gang. I honestly didn’t give a shit about them and thought they could’ve actually swapped out how Han met Jabba with that plot..
Agree. Although they set up a sequel for that, it was betting "Solo" would be a success. IMHO, ending with Hans taking a run for Jabba, getting boarded and having to dump the cargo would have been better ending. That was one of the few events mentioned in earlier films which was not in "Solo".
well the ACTOR playing HAN looked , sounded and acted NOTHING like Harrison Ford !!! there were and are examples of plenty of actors that looked and sounded like YOUNG Harrison Ford
I think it was definitely unfairly maligned, it's way better than the last 2 ST films. I think the big problem it faced was that TLJ was _so_ divisive it left a lot of Star Wars fans with a bad taste in their mouths and then Disney decided to release Solo a mere 5 months after it. If this had released 12 months after Rogue One, with no TLJ in the middle, I reckon it wouldn't have been a flop.
I was watching Star Wars: The Force Awakens with someone who had never seen any of the films. After fifteen minutes, she turned to me and said, "This isn't very funny." "It isn't a comedy. It's a drama." "Oh, come on!" It has been dead to me ever since.
I think my favourite bit of information of this video is that the droid was not just a CGI-dump, but actual actor performance with CGI enhancements. Something that was bad about a May release was also the fact that every other Disney Star Wars movie before had released in December. I can't speak for everybody else, but I was almost conditioned to expect a December release, and avoided anything Solo-related like the plague, knowing I'd read a dozen spoilers otherwise. So I completely missed the cinema screenings, thinking the movie hadn't yet released.
Am I the only person who noticed that wookies EAT HUMANS? Really? And Han understands their language? That's like saying that Eskimos can speak Polar Bear. Or divers can speak Shark. If this is canon, then how do you become besties with something that looks at you as though you're a slice of bacon. That's when this movie got too stupid for me. Just sayin'.
I don’t think humans are a part of their normal Wookiie diet. Even humans have eaten humans, when they are starving. And there are plenty of animals and humans that manage to communicate with each other
Yes I saw Solo over 🎄 2024. Disney +. 4K version 72" screen. The cinematography is sub standard. Rushed. Actors deliver lines like they are reading cue cards.
It followed the absolute franchise ending trash film that was TLJ. That is the moment that killed Star Wars. That is why Solo bombed. You can thank KK and Ruin Johnson for killing Star Wars.
"I hid, and then ran as fast as I could" not a Han Solo action. And his chewie fight, come on, he would have a broken back several times over, just from the fall into that pit/cage a normal human is done.
Hiding is very much a Solo action. When we first see him in SW he is on the lam, hiding from Jabba; in ESB he hides in what he thinks is a crater on an asteroid and as a piece of junk being dumped by the Imperial fleet and he choses Bespin because he thinks it would be a saafe place to hide as Lando had no love for the Empire.
It received the lowest marketing budget, promotion didn’t begin until Super Bowl Sunday for an early May release, which is pretty crazy. And the release date should’ve been pushed to December. When it dropped, people didn’t even know about it.
Solo was good, but it was doomed to fail releasing so soon after a franchise killing film in Last Jedi. Disney needed to cool the jets for awhile after that one, but instead they tried launch into hyperdrive. They're still trying to pick up the pieces from that crash.
Solo is my favourite of the new batch of Star Wars, though it really should have been 3 movies, Chapter 1 being meeting Chewie and how they became friends and the Life Debt, Chapter 2 being meeting Lando with him as the villain and Han winning the Falcon at the end, then Chapter 3 should have been nothing but the Kessel Run. Solo, The Last Jedi, Rogue One, The Force Awakens, then Rise of Palpatine is how I'd rate them.
1. The pacing was horrible. Are you telling me that every significant thing that happened to Han [meeting Chewie, Meeting Lando and winning the Falcon, The Kessel Run] all happened in the timeframe of one adventure? 2. The color palette is depressing [blue and dark blue, grey and dark grey, brown and dark brown] In other words, it looks like shit.
The rot all started with the who shot first scene in the cantina. The original, Hann shoots, ruthlessly killing a bounty hunter. That was what made him cool, he was dangerous. Now Greedo shoots first making Solo shoot in self defence.
1 the plot was crap 2 emillia clarke cant act 3 han solo wasnt believable as han solo 4 chwies origin was dumb 5 that stupid droid 6 the solo name origin 7 woody harrelson, never put big names in a star wars movies
If they would have moved solo to Labor Day weekend, it would have broken records for the late summer frame. Look what Shang chi did on labor day weekend DURING COVID!
Despite the fact it wasn't a necessary story to tell and regardless of its box office performance, Solo is an incredibly fun film. Alden and Donald did right by Han and Lando, and I'd like to see more about Crimson Dawn in live action.
The problem was execution. R1 was paint-by-numbers explanation of how those "tapes" were smuggled aboard by rebel spies. But it worked much better. I don't know why.
Honestly I think this was a great movie, the only Disney star wars movie that wasn't complete bullshit. The kid who played Han Solo was superb, and looks exactly like Harrison when he was young. If you've seen the Coen Brothers film "Hail, Caesar" you would know him and love him from that too. I have no idea why this film gets so much hate. It's the only thing close to what George did.
IMO, Solo is a very good movie. Excellent acting performances from the entire cast. A unique take on a difficult origin story. It is guilty of stuffing as much SW Fan lore as it could. I believe the movie suffered from a poor release date, SW Last Jedi back lash, and an unfair comparison to Rouge One. Rouge One began a new way of SW story telling, and is better than Solo, but that does not make Solo a bad movie. Please watch Solo again, I think everyone will like it!
I quite enjoyed it, understated, underrated, but the main obstacles were mostly external ones, early summer release date, Last Jedi backlash. The main actor probably got some bad advice from Ford himself who said don't copy me. Probably not the way to go for a role like this.
I was bothered by the card up the sleeve subplot. I would expect professional gamblers and casino owners to know about that trick and have a way to catch people using that trick.
My wife and I saw Solo one weekend and Deadpool 2 the next weekend. I liked Solo better than Deadpool, because it was original, and I liked how he and chewie met (Chewie ate people? Really make Hans like in Jedi "always thinking with your stomach." a bit darker). While Deadpool 2 was exactly what I thought it'd be. I still want to see this trilogy completed. It's at least better than EP 7-9.
Solo bombed primarily because people wanted revenge for the last jedi. They simply did not go to see it and/or panned it to punish Disney. Plain and simple.
I actually enjoyed Solo because it was far better than the Prequals. But there were some things I was disappointed with, such as the Kessel Run not being what I was expecting.
Solo is better than all three somehow-Palpatine-returned sequels. It's stupid fun vs just plain stupid.
That's your wicked opinion
@@SimonNesgaard It's true
TFA is structurally a better movie than Solo. It _could_ have been a great introduction. But it's follow-ups render it crap, so yeah. I agree.
Palpatine told Anakin there was a way to cheat death in ROTS. And he did return in the EU stories, so you are the one who is stupid
@@purplemicrodot58It is ! TFA is nothing but ANH with different characters. I was bored watching it, and the only thing I liked about it was Daisy's performance.
The last Jedi killed solo. This doesn’t need a deep dive.
TLJ is in my top 3, but I hated Solo. And RoS still did better than Solo despite also being after TLJ.
No but for the sake of a great movie it doesn’t need to be clarified a lot
Absolutely agree with this!
It was The Force Avakens that killed him...
@@KlausAaes very true, those pricks brought back our hero’s to kill them off for spectacle.
The sad truth is that Solo isn't a bad film at all, it's not great but it's watchable. It's really The Last Jedi that killed Star Wars and it's the reason Solo tanked at the box office.
Pandering to fans "killed" Star Wars. Last Jedi was the best film in the sequel trilogy.
Had it come out before The Last Jedi, it might have had a chance. However, TLJ was the death knell of Star Wars ending with The Acolyte.
If it come out before the last Jedi it would’ve been a hit but then people would’ve hated the last Jedi Even MORE! Because of the quality of solo and I don’t know if you can hate The last Jedi more than it has been
I'd love a season 2 of Acolyte
Main reason: Backlash. It immediately followed The Last Jedi which many fans not only hated but saw as an assault on the Skywalker Saga itself.
Solo was the first Star Wars movie I didn't see in a theater but it's one of the few I own on 4K BR. Irony.
It was the last SW I saw. That was strictly based on Kasdan and Howard being attached
Last Jedi destroyed the brand.
I didn’t see it at the cinema as they yanked it from UK cinemas within 2 weeks.
Yep. Overall, Solo isn't *that* bad of a movie, but coming on the heels of Rian Johnson's, The Last Jedi totally doomed it. (And yes, it must be referred to as "Rian Johnson's, The Last Jedi," lest we forget how he knew nothing about Star Wars and how complete shit the movie is.)
100% this
@@bobfalfa62 It didn't destroy the brand. If Disney had played its cards right afterwards, things woulve been fine. But Kennedy's sabotage of Mandolorian and firing of Gina Carano is what really killed Star Wars.
I actually enjoyed Solo because it didn't take itself too seriously and wasn't hinged upon a single family. Everyone looked like they were having fun making it, and the lead captured a young, inexperienced Han Solo well. All the issues I blame on Disney for not having the balls to try something new.
It was certainly better than Episodes VII-IX.
It failed for one reason only. It came out 6 months after the extremely devisive TLJ with the film being boycotted and negative toxic social media.
The actor also did not channel Ford in any way shape or form. They casting was terrible. Fucking Childish Gambino as some fruity version of Lando... WOKE droids. PLEASE.
People don't go to the movies to see "boundries pushed," they go to be entertained.
Never understood the hate, I do however understand a sort of boycott after the travesty that was TLJ
TLJ left a sour taste in the mouth of many fans
TLJ is the worst movie I've ever seen. Not just SW movie. Absolutely dreadful.
@@EJJ-EvArms agreed
@@EJJ-EvArms TLJ had a few good scenes and great visuals. rise of skywalker was even worse
In my opinion, that’s the main reason.
Solo, despite all the problems and more listed here , is still better than the absolute crap served up in the 3 recent films, also the tv shows Disney spew out now, terrible dog dirt
Clearly you haven’t watched ANY of the shows.
@@williamhenderson1161 Of course not , i wouldnt waste my time with that crap
I love SOLO, and think it's one of the most re-watchable of all the SW films. I love the Jedi-free exploration of the shady criminal side of Star Wars. The epic atrociousness of The Last Jedi is what drove audiences away. I'd love to see more of the Q'ira/Darth Maul crime syndicate story, and I loved the parallel of young Han to young Luke, Luke being the hero who embraced his Hero's Journey, and Han being the hero who refuses the call.
A movie that no one wanted come out just months after a film that broke the fandom...what could go wrong
You can add Don Glover opening his trap 1 week before opening, about Lando being a “pansexual” kind a guy, essentially retconning a beloved OT character. Disney even had to drag poor Billy Dee into the mix, and make him set the record straight.
The Last Jedi happened. I'm a huge Star Wars fan but I was done after that fucking movie, luckily friends convinced me to go to Solo, and I saw that Star Wars was still awesome.
TLJ was the best movie in the sequel trilogy.
I don't like when I hear someone say that the Han Solo movie was one that "nobody wanted". There's a whole generation of people who definitely wanted that movie!
Good actors, good director, good production value, bad story
I would have liked to see an adventure that ends right where Han meets Luke and Obi-Wan in the cantina, like Rogue One ended right where New Hope began. That would have been cool
What happened?
For me Last Jedi happened, and I swore that the people that put that out would not see another dime from me or my family.
Ep.7 was ok.
Ep.8 was horrible.
And that’s being polite.
Ep.9 was the only Star Wars I’ve never rewatched whatsoever.
Rouge One was GREAT.
Solo was my favorite Disney SW, but not as good as Rouge One.
I'm glad someone in my family doesn't try to control what we all watch like this.
@@BrianOfTarth-f2vhuge assumption on your part. Perhaps the family was introduced to og Star Wars and entire family all agreed sequel trilogy was trash after Rian poisoned the well.
@@snyper5150 I agree totally with this, your words could have been written by me! One difference however is that I turned off Ep.9 halfway through and so have never seen the end of it.
The only person to blame for Solos failure was Kathleen Kennedy...she knew what she was getting with her first choice of directors....then replaced them with 70 percent shot...then very little marketing then a bad release date...this is all on one person
Solo failed for two main reasons; people boycotted the movie out of protest against the piece of crap called The Last Jedi where Disney basically bastardised the franchise. The other let down was that the actor bared no resemblance to Harrison Ford whatsoever.
I can agree with this though the actor did a fairly good job, However, I believe they could have gotten just as good a job or better with an actor that looked more like Ford. Same story with Lando.
The Phoebe Waller-Bridge effect was on full display too. That woman is a wrecker where beloved franchises are concerned. She did the same thing to Indiana Jones and James Bond.
They should have cast Anthony Ingruber! 🤔
The rejection of "Solo" was the punishment, that Disney/LF rightfully deserved after the abomination that is "The last jedi".
Predestined Punishment? The Force is cloudy in this one!
_Rogue One_ felt like a love letter to _Star Wars_ fans. In contrast, everything else Disney has produced under the _Star Wars_ banner has felt like a slap in the face.
TLJ and TROS made more than Rogue One so who exactly are the love-in fans and who was slapped in the face? Seems like the same people saw all 3.
@@davidgeisler9885just because a movie makes money doesn’t mean it was a good movies. The sequel trilogy was garbage through out the 3 movies.
If Rogue One was a love letter, The Last Jedi was a hostage video.
That's a really good way of putting it.
Rogue One was awesome.
Disney screwed up the Star Wars legacy beyond belief. Solo was a darned solid movie in and of itself, but Disney had destroyed the public trust/expectation in the franchise and people avoided this film. It’s unfortunate because the movie is far from terrible.
Nobody wanted Han’s backstory. His being an unknown non-force user made him intriguing. Imagine making a movie that gives details to The Man With No Name in the “Dollars Trilogy”
If The Last Jedi didn't sh*t on the head of every hard core Star Wars fan, I think SOLO would have been received much better.
The flaw of Solo was the relationship of Qi'ra. Solo being a romantically motivated rogue, takes away from his edge. It also adds 15 minutes to the beginning of the movie. Start the movie with Solo entering battle linked with Beckett, and the movie improves a great deal. I would've preferred having them explore more to his 'frienemy' relationship with Lando.
I kind of think the romance added to his character, he’s younger and more naive. It shows him experiencing the betrayal that gave him his “edge” thats the Han Solo we’re more familiar with
I great idea I read somewhere was to bring Billy Dee Williams, and Donald Glover together for a Lando anthology series. Each episode would have old Lando start a story about some trouble he got into, and then out of, and then young Lando would be seen having the adventure.
Don Glover lacked charisma as Lando, came across as sleazy. The droid fetish was stupid.
You are correct. Mr Glover is not smooth like Billy Dee
I agree. Lando should have been far less smarmy. And not f***ed robots.
I disagree. I thought he pulled it off perfectly.
How can you go through life being called DonG lover?
you could add poor photography. Many scenes were so dark you could not see what was happening.
Of the Disney Star Wars movies Solo is second on my list right behind Rogue One . I found it to be a fun movie with great characters. And after the last jedi you could have put out a Jabba the hut movie and people would have liked it more .
Fan reaction to the abysmal The Last Jedi unfortunately killed this one dead in the water. I only saw The Last Jedi once and have no desire to see it again. Perhaps I ought to give this another go although it didn’t leave a lasting impression on first viewing.
Always so worried about Disney not making money on a movie. What will happen with the company’s owners???
Considering how "beloved" Han Solo is, Disney didn't waste any time killing him off in The Farce Awakens. To me that makes the Solo movie akin to pissing on his grave and then robbing it.
I remember renting this film and bringing it to a party. No one wanted to see it after the Last Jedi and no one had gone to see it in theaters. I had turned it on to offer another route of entertainment and by the end of the movie the room was full with pretty much everyone sitting and watching the film. We ended up agreeing that it wasn't actually a bad film and was actually quite entertaining. If this film had waited till December I bet it could have made double what it did.
You rented it?
I really like Solo, and it’s one of my favourite things Disney has done with Star Wars. I’m guessing not everyone wants a Han Solo origin story, but I enjoy it for its aesthetics and pretty good cast. Shame that it largely went forgotten.
I agree
You leave out that they wanted to destroy every legacy character which they did.
This movie should have been Jonah Hill as Han Solo, Channing Tatum as Chewbacca & Ice Cube as Lando.
Thank you for acknowledging the problem with the release date. This frequently gets ignored in many analyses of the failure of this movie, and I really do believe that it is the main reason that it bombed. Had it come out in December with a proper promotional push (and some time to distance itself from the poor reaction to Last Jedi) it would probably have been a moderate success. But instead, they sandwiched it in the week between Deadpool and Avengers and it simply got lost in the shuffle. It's a shame because, despite its troubled production and numerous flaws, it's still a pretty decent movie.
Ironically, Fox moved Deadpool 2 to give solo room. While Fox wasn’t owned by Disney yet, there was cooperation between the studios about the release and who got the imax and large format screens.
Deadpool 2 was originally to release June 1, a week after solo. By moving a week before, it insured solo had the premium format screens Longer than a week, thus attempting to bolster its revenue.
Too bad it didn’t work.
One thing that was very annoying to me about Solo was how visually dark it was.. Maybe that’s more of an issue with my old eyes, but man this movie was allergic to light..
I never thought it was necessary, but I liked the movie. A lot of Star Wars fun.
I think that following Last jedi really didn't help.
People thought that was rubbish, Then this came out soon after.
So fans showed how they felt by not going to the cinema.
Another problem is that it wasn't the right story. It should have been more "Smokey and the Bandit", less "Ocean's 11". The GotG vibe might have been perfect.
But the wikipedia feel of it was my major issue with it. It just didn't feel like an organic story. And the Kessel run was just stupid. We already knew he survived, why would they think there was any tension there?
The worst thing that happened to Solo was The Last Jedi. The Last Jedi sucked so no one wanted to see Solo. Solo is a good movie filled with tons of wicked Star Wars moments.
They named him solo because he was travelling solo, alone. Terrible. It would be better if he came from a tribe, country, or planet called solo. Also he lost his love at the beginning of the film when reunited none explained what happened.
There was no need to have Solo NOT be his real last name. Had they gone with the lore of him having been in the Imperial Academy and walked away, then that might have made sense for Solo to be an alias. As it is, it should have just been his real name.
Solo was a good, fun, movie.. it suffered a lot from Last Jedi fall out
Nothing went wrong. After Rogue One, this is the best of the new wave of Star Wars films and the fact it turned out so well despite a troubled production should be celebrated. Also, those people saying it was a film no wanted could not be more wrong. I'd been waiting for more Han Solo stories for 40 years!
I agree
Thank you! I actually like Solo better than Rogue One
They lost me at name "Solo"... Him magically knowing the Wookie language... Come on. It would have been so much more entertaining watching Han learn and continue to misunderstand Chewie. I was simply lazy.
I agree with the idea that we really didn't need the backstory and not every movie can or will be a blockbuster.
They absolutely BLEW the Han Solo casting. They had Anthony Ingruber and passed on him over Alden? That's all it took. Also, I don't think anyone actually needed it. Lots of good elements in the movie, but no, it's not good.
Yes, totally agree it would have been much better if they had stuck with Ingruber. Another bad decision by Lucasfilm. What were they thinking??
@@leegilliss9431 They were thinking it would be good to have someone who could actually act rather than someone who just had a passing resemblance to Harrison Ford...
It answered not one question I had and I couldn't get away from how un Solo like he looked and acted.
I really liked Solo except for a few scenes and themes
For me there is no Star Wars fatigue or Super Hero fatigue. There is bad writing, filming and editing fatigue. The fans are fatigued of BAD movies not to many movies. The Force Unleashed should have been made canon. Starkiller's story should have come before Rouge One. My .02
06:49 no, it wasn't "Star Wars fatigue". That's hiding the elephant in the room.
t was simply that The Last Jedi upset so many fans that it put them off seeing more Disney Star Wars.
My biggest problem is that they reduced everything we know about Han Solo to one week of his life. It completely trivialized all of his stories. Han's story should've easily been enough to fill multiple movies, each telling a grand story behind one aspect of his beloved character. Instead of having a full rich backstory, this movie tells us that Han is a boring guy retelling one big week of his life.
While all of the other 6 points are true, the biggest travesty of this film was the writing. It was a horrible story that crammed too much into too little.
EVERYTHING Kathleen touches. No exception.
If the Imperial officer asked Han if he has anyone else, meaning Emilia Clarke's character, wouldn't he be called Han Duo?
4:15 - Michael K Williams replaced with a totally different actor? Jeeeeeze. That just shows how many scenes/takes were NOT shot ... and so Mr Williams' character couldn't even be used in the slightest. Damn!
I liked the movie as a decent 6/10 .... but I know it could've been an 8.5/10 with the right people behind it, the correct script being used, the best funding, and the right cast behind it...!
To tell Han's story they needed more than one movie, they tried to cram his entire backstory into 2 hours, he needed a trilogy just like Luke got.
There's only one reason - The Last Jedi was pure shite and immediately afterwards, hard core Star Wars fans walked away in staggering numbers. Anything else is spin or copium.
Han Solo doesn’t need a back story. We already know it. We can imagine it better.
The movie Solo delves into stuff we don’t need to see. Or hear. So you mean to tell me one of the universe’s truly loved characters got his name from an Imperial recruiter?
Han Solo let someone else name him Han Solo?
Not my Captain Solo.
All these back story series weaken the characters.
“General Kenobi, you fought with my father in the Clone Wars… “
“Don’t remember, ok how about this: Remember me, Leia? I was your annoying companion like 10 years ago when I was 12, yeah, same Leia, I’m a princess now, yup, jog your memory yet? How many Leia’s do you know?”
We watch one time because we are a fan.
Expand the Star Wars universe, we don’t need a greatest hits movie (SW:TFA) or a counter cannon alternative (Acolyte) to what we already know and love.
No hate. Just feedback.
There are millions of Americans who owe their last names to the clerks at Ellis Island. So the fact that Han got his name from an intake officer on his way to flight school doesn’t bother me at all.
It’s not a terrible film in hindsight compared to what was to come.
I am still somewhat perplexed by Hollywood's fascination with the concept of a prequel. By the very nature of a prequel the story telling scope is limited. Even when they try to stick within continuity they always stuff it up and generally prequels end up having Dickensian levels of coincidence. I think I would be willing to say at this point I don't think there has been a good prequel film in any franchise ever.
Forget all those issues, TLJ, that’s what went wrong 🤔
I'd accept it more if a young Harrison Ford's face was CGI'd throughout the film and the Millennium Falcon looked a bit more like it did in all the other Star Wars movies.
The only problem I had with solo with Star Wars story was the red Dawn gang. I honestly didn’t give a shit about them and thought they could’ve actually swapped out how Han met Jabba with that plot..
Agree. Although they set up a sequel for that, it was betting "Solo" would be a success. IMHO, ending with Hans taking a run for Jabba, getting boarded and having to dump the cargo would have been better ending. That was one of the few events mentioned in earlier films which was not in "Solo".
well the ACTOR playing HAN looked , sounded and acted NOTHING like Harrison Ford !!! there were and are examples of plenty of actors that looked and sounded like YOUNG Harrison Ford
For me the problem was that it just never felt like anything but a Ron Howard film with SW ornaments tossed on.
Oh that sexy robot. 🤖. Just what the fans wanted
Yeah spend $12, 16, 22 to see fog, mud, snow, night shots, haze. 🙁
I think it was definitely unfairly maligned, it's way better than the last 2 ST films. I think the big problem it faced was that TLJ was _so_ divisive it left a lot of Star Wars fans with a bad taste in their mouths and then Disney decided to release Solo a mere 5 months after it. If this had released 12 months after Rogue One, with no TLJ in the middle, I reckon it wouldn't have been a flop.
I was watching Star Wars: The Force Awakens with someone who had never seen any of the films. After fifteen minutes, she turned to me and said, "This isn't very funny." "It isn't a comedy. It's a drama." "Oh, come on!" It has been dead to me ever since.
Just wondering, how much of this movie was completely re-shot? Was it 70%
I think my favourite bit of information of this video is that the droid was not just a CGI-dump, but actual actor performance with CGI enhancements.
Something that was bad about a May release was also the fact that every other Disney Star Wars movie before had released in December. I can't speak for everybody else, but I was almost conditioned to expect a December release, and avoided anything Solo-related like the plague, knowing I'd read a dozen spoilers otherwise.
So I completely missed the cinema screenings, thinking the movie hadn't yet released.
Am I the only person who noticed that wookies EAT HUMANS? Really? And Han understands their language? That's like saying that Eskimos can speak Polar Bear. Or divers can speak Shark. If this is canon, then how do you become besties with something that looks at you as though you're a slice of bacon. That's when this movie got too stupid for me. Just sayin'.
The Ewoks almost had Hanburgers for lunch.
I don’t think humans are a part of their normal Wookiie diet. Even humans have eaten humans, when they are starving. And there are plenty of animals and humans that manage to communicate with each other
I think it couldve used better color grading.
Yes I saw Solo over 🎄 2024. Disney +. 4K version 72" screen. The cinematography is sub standard. Rushed. Actors deliver lines like they are reading cue cards.
I liked it. Between people liking to complain & people liking to parrot what others say, Solo didn’t have a chance.
It followed the absolute franchise ending trash film that was TLJ.
That is the moment that killed Star Wars.
That is why Solo bombed.
You can thank KK and Ruin Johnson for killing Star Wars.
"I hid, and then ran as fast as I could" not a Han Solo action. And his chewie fight, come on, he would have a broken back several times over, just from the fall into that pit/cage a normal human is done.
Hiding is very much a Solo action. When we first see him in SW he is on the lam, hiding from Jabba; in ESB he hides in what he thinks is a crater on an asteroid and as a piece of junk being dumped by the Imperial fleet and he choses Bespin because he thinks it would be a saafe place to hide as Lando had no love for the Empire.
It received the lowest marketing budget, promotion didn’t begin until Super Bowl Sunday for an early May release, which is pretty crazy. And the release date should’ve been pushed to December. When it dropped, people didn’t even know about it.
Solo was good, but it was doomed to fail releasing so soon after a franchise killing film in Last Jedi. Disney needed to cool the jets for awhile after that one, but instead they tried launch into hyperdrive. They're still trying to pick up the pieces from that crash.
Solo is my favourite of the new batch of Star Wars, though it really should have been 3 movies, Chapter 1 being meeting Chewie and how they became friends and the Life Debt, Chapter 2 being meeting Lando with him as the villain and Han winning the Falcon at the end, then Chapter 3 should have been nothing but the Kessel Run.
Solo, The Last Jedi, Rogue One, The Force Awakens, then Rise of Palpatine is how I'd rate them.
1. The pacing was horrible. Are you telling me that every significant thing that happened to Han [meeting Chewie, Meeting Lando and winning the Falcon, The Kessel Run] all happened in the timeframe of one adventure?
2. The color palette is depressing [blue and dark blue, grey and dark grey, brown and dark brown] In other words, it looks like shit.
I agree, Ron Howard had smoke, mud, fog, shadows, grey sky, dark scenes. The L7 robot 🤖 was neither funny or hip, progressive. 🤦🏻♂️
The rot all started with the who shot first scene in the cantina. The original, Hann shoots, ruthlessly killing a bounty hunter. That was what made him cool, he was dangerous. Now Greedo shoots first making Solo shoot in self defence.
No talent + big egos + not caring about the fans.
1 the plot was crap
2 emillia clarke cant act
3 han solo wasnt believable as han solo
4 chwies origin was dumb
5 that stupid droid
6 the solo name origin
7 woody harrelson, never put big names in a star wars movies
solo , Rogue 1, and Andor are the best things that have come out of this whole disney debacle
Solo is great! And Solo 2 NEEDS to happen!!
And its thought 1979's Star Trek: The Motion Picture, which also had an inflexible release date, was done in a rush.
If they would have moved solo to Labor Day weekend, it would have broken records for the late summer frame.
Look what Shang chi did on labor day weekend DURING COVID!
"7 Reasons What Went Wrong" - what a powerful command of the basic written word you have there
Despite the fact it wasn't a necessary story to tell and regardless of its box office performance, Solo is an incredibly fun film. Alden and Donald did right by Han and Lando, and I'd like to see more about Crimson Dawn in live action.
I liked having Hans back story. I thought it was a fun movie. I was really surprised when Darth Maul showed up at the end
I liked it. Thought it was a good movie.
The problem was execution. R1 was paint-by-numbers explanation of how those "tapes" were smuggled aboard by rebel spies. But it worked much better. I don't know why.
Honestly I think this was a great movie, the only Disney star wars movie that wasn't complete bullshit. The kid who played Han Solo was superb, and looks exactly like Harrison when he was young. If you've seen the Coen Brothers film "Hail, Caesar" you would know him and love him from that too. I have no idea why this film gets so much hate. It's the only thing close to what George did.
IMO, Solo is a very good movie. Excellent acting performances from the entire cast. A unique take on a difficult origin story. It is guilty of stuffing as much SW Fan lore as it could. I believe the movie suffered from a poor release date, SW Last Jedi back lash, and an unfair comparison to Rouge One. Rouge One began a new way of SW story telling, and is better than Solo, but that does not make Solo a bad movie. Please watch Solo again, I think everyone will like it!
I quite enjoyed it, understated, underrated, but the main obstacles were mostly external ones, early summer release date, Last Jedi backlash. The main actor probably got some bad advice from Ford himself who said don't copy me. Probably not the way to go for a role like this.
I was bothered by the card up the sleeve subplot. I would expect professional gamblers and casino owners to know about that trick and have a way to catch people using that trick.
My wife and I saw Solo one weekend and Deadpool 2 the next weekend. I liked Solo better than Deadpool, because it was original, and I liked how he and chewie met (Chewie ate people? Really make Hans like in Jedi "always thinking with your stomach." a bit darker). While Deadpool 2 was exactly what I thought it'd be. I still want to see this trilogy completed. It's at least better than EP 7-9.
Solo bombed primarily because people wanted revenge for the last jedi. They simply did not go to see it and/or panned it to punish Disney. Plain and simple.
I actually enjoyed Solo because it was far better than the Prequals. But there were some things I was disappointed with, such as the Kessel Run not being what I was expecting.
I actually enjoyed Solo. I have a troubled relationship with the prequels and sequels though (born in ‘74). Loved Rogue One too
Coming out 6 months after TLJ was the worst.