10C/20T in 1L Lenovo ThinkCentre M90q Tiny Review

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    We take a look at the Lenovo ThinkCentre M90q Tiny which we purchased with the 10 core/ 20 thread Intel Core i9-10900T which is a 35W TDP CPU. We see the hardware, the power consumption, and how it performs.
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    Timestamps
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    00:00 Introduction
    02:47 Hardware Overview
    12:59 Performance and Power Consumption
    16:25 Pricing and Key Lessons Learned
    20:52 Conclusion
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  • @denvera1g1
    @denvera1g1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    I'm patiently waiting for the M95Q tiny with 5950E :)

  • @gonace
    @gonace 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I really appreciate this series of videos, they´re really great information for those who are prospecting for one of these computers.

  • @MobileIndifference
    @MobileIndifference 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I just bought in M93P tiny after watching project tiny mini micro. I bought it with a i3 and put a E3-1275Lv3 in it. Nice and fast, under $200. Very happy.

  • @yousifkady2113
    @yousifkady2113 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love the video. Excellent review of the M90q as we have purchased a lot of them recently for our company.

  • @Garageland16
    @Garageland16 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    THIS IS PATRICK FROM STH!! every opener keeps getting more intense lol. fun videos and enthusiasm

    • @leefhead1
      @leefhead1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      you could tell he was super excited making this one lol

  • @stucorbishley
    @stucorbishley 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Great video Patrick, good idea to cover one of the more high end units... From a density point of view, sub $1k for a 1L machine with that much threading is quite something. Arguably could replace several small older machines depending on peak workload.. 👍

  • @ivomusters
    @ivomusters 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I do like the extra info on pricing and coupons because as you said, it might be about a 1 fast unit vs multiple smaller units comparison

  • @chrisumali9841
    @chrisumali9841 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for the demo and info, have a great day

  • @thatLion01
    @thatLion01 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice system. Nice review. Thank you for posting this

  • @allenb7395
    @allenb7395 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi hope you can do more b rolls or a table top view as you discuss the parts/device

  • @SidebandSamurai
    @SidebandSamurai 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent information on these 1 liter units. What about using it as a HTPC streaming console? I would love to see how it streams blue ray content with the atmos sound track.

  • @RoastBeefSandwich
    @RoastBeefSandwich 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I have 100 of these Tinys deployed in the All-In-One monitors. They have proven exceptionally well designed.

  • @oldbrokenhands
    @oldbrokenhands 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    4:21 that's what I needed to see.
    Some folks I know bought a cheap version with a non-DP USB-C port on the front and no USB-C port in the rear.
    Thanks for this.

  • @adamsaint2890
    @adamsaint2890 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    That little plastic bit is supposed to insulate antenna leads that are 'spare'

  • @harrisongilbert
    @harrisongilbert 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey Patrick, I have a question since you’re the guy for all of the colo things. I’m planning on getting a half rack colo in the coming months for some of my servers, but I’m not sure yet whether I should get a switch or router since my provider is just dropping me a 1g up/down cable. I’ve heard from some friends that I should only get a router if I plan to BGP peer with a Tier 1 or 2 and always just use a switch if that’s not the case, but other people have said that I should always try to use a router for futureproofing. What’s your take on this?

  • @asdf51501
    @asdf51501 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    A 10900T or 10900 in that tiny a form factor? Even with Intel 630 graphics this thing would be a solid Plex server while being able to do other things. It really sounds impressive, and might be a better value than a NUC with a 4-core 8-thread CPU depending on use case. Thank you for the video!

  • @alexnovasun5952
    @alexnovasun5952 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for review.

  • @OTechnology
    @OTechnology 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I just tried going to the website and was surprised you can configure these with the full fat 65W CPUs??!! That's pretty impressive!

    • @morosis82
      @morosis82 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'll be impressed if it can cool them so they don't thermal throttle.

    • @OTechnology
      @OTechnology 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@morosis82 that's probably possible. Its limited to 65W anyways which isn't impossible to cool but its noisy.

  • @DmnkRocks
    @DmnkRocks 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Some comments from my 100+ Tiny Experience. The Tool-Less Option is a Screw with a "finger clip" - the once you get with Monitors. I personally don't care, as I always have a Screwdriver on hand.
    The Included 2.5" bracket is always included, unless the space is used by something else (eg. Graphicscard). - this is true for all ThinkPad/Station Products. Even the cheap E-Series ThinkPads get their Drive Cages included, even if you don't option it.

  • @zahirig
    @zahirig ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video. Can you do a video on the naming system lenovo is using for these devices? When I look at it, it appears all over the place.

    • @ServeTheHomeVideo
      @ServeTheHomeVideo  ปีที่แล้ว

      Someone was working on this in the forums forums.servethehome.com/index.php?threads/lenovo-thinkcentre-thinkstation-tiny-project-tinyminimicro-reference-thread.34925/

  • @tristankordek
    @tristankordek 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hello
    If you really want to check if this filter is worth recommending You would have to run a quick performance test with all air inlets covered so that air flows in from the front and out from the rear.
    In fact, these USB names are terribly unintuitive, I do not know why they did not use the name related to the port bandwidth, e.g. USB 3 5Gb (or 10Gb or 20Gb).
    Thanks for another cool episode

  • @aetherspoon
    @aetherspoon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ooooo~
    Now to decide whether to go with something like this for my VM host or build something once the 5000-series AMD APUs come out for retail purchase and put it into an X300 or something.

  • @milescarter7803
    @milescarter7803 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What is the Pxx equivalent? Or is there a M90x? I noticed on my P330 that I get the black heatsink, but it is available with the P620 video card, so its necessary. Also 65w option with copper heatsink. Its either or 35w video or 65w processor, and I think the system sometimes will ask for a 135w with a video card + 9700t or 9600t. Any news on if encompass parts sells the copper heatsinks etc so we can upgrade down the road?

  • @pkt1213
    @pkt1213 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is a cool series. It makes me want to build a kubernetes cluster for...well...no reason.
    I got the IoT running Untangle.

  • @matthewbridgeman57
    @matthewbridgeman57 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is super cool! Are there any tiny/mini/micro PC’s or Nucs or what have you that have an internal power supply/are “brickless”, sorta like the Mac Mini?

    • @positivebits
      @positivebits 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Older (4th gen) Fujitsu q920/q520 have integrated psu. They are smige bigger though

    • @ServeTheHomeVideo
      @ServeTheHomeVideo  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well, we have 3x M1 Mac Minis :-) These corporate desktop PCs all have external power supplies.
      The closest may be www.servethehome.com/intel-nuc9vxqnx-nuc-review-xeon-quartz-canyon/ but that is quite a bit larger.

  • @todortodorov940
    @todortodorov940 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    We've been corona locked down for 13 months now. I have two remotely controlled Lenovo Small-Form-Factor PCs at work. But as it is Corona, the office is empty, no cleaning services. One PC failed with fan problems. One had the dust shield - the other didn't.

  • @PauloRAgostinho
    @PauloRAgostinho 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You need to test the riser and external GPU!

  • @Joe__Tech
    @Joe__Tech 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    All OEMs shall offer all those mini PCs as a modern silent case version and maybe old fashioned with those loud fan cooled case. I always turned all my Intel NUCs for me and m friends into a silent PC, with Akasa‘s passive cooled case. It is worth it.

  • @ThineHolyBacon
    @ThineHolyBacon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    A Lenovo Tiny system with both the riser option AND 2x M.2 slots!? I really wish I saw this about 3 weeks ago :

    • @user-th3jl8mz7y
      @user-th3jl8mz7y 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Absolutely. I don't get though, does this particular system come with riser or just the pcie connector? As I don't see the riser anywhere in the video, just a mention of it and that you should buy the i350 nic. I'd rather buy an SFP/+ NIC there than spending money on RJ45, but I want that riser.

    • @ThineHolyBacon
      @ThineHolyBacon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@user-th3jl8mz7y It doesn't come with the riser unless you order it with it. Riser is about $65-70 USD on ebay and ships from china

    • @user-th3jl8mz7y
      @user-th3jl8mz7y 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ThineHolyBacon Is it something OEM specific or just any riser will do? For instance, some people may not know but HP servers would not boot without their risers installed because there is some logic on those, not just dumb connectors. It's like a car that won't start unless all seatbelts are on even though no passengers but the driver. Is it something similar here?

    • @ThineHolyBacon
      @ThineHolyBacon 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@user-th3jl8mz7y The riser is non-standard. Doubt any random one would fit it. No drivers needed though

  • @davidchoral2523
    @davidchoral2523 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was waiting with great anticipation for the M90q review so many thanks Patrick!
    Please let me know if it’s noisy when the cpu is stressed, does the fan work like crazy? Is it audible? I want this unit for music production and silent working is really a big deal for me.
    To be honest I’m interested more for M90q with intel 10900. Obviously more powerful, but the 2.80ghz base clock to 5.20ghz boost and the 65W TDP makes me wonder about thermals and the fan noise. What’s your opinion?

    • @ServeTheHomeVideo
      @ServeTheHomeVideo  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      David, the fan certainly runs on these. Near idle ~10W is not an issue to cool quietly. At the 60W+ range the fan was certainly audible. Not bad at all, but as someone who has done a lot of sound insulation on the studio, it would not be something I would put within 1m of a good microphone. It is also much quieter than my desktop when rendering these videos. On the higher wattage units, I think you would be better off with a larger system that can use larger fans.

    • @davidchoral2523
      @davidchoral2523 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ServeTheHomeVideo I was afraid that you'd say that. Maybe that's why people prefer the new 5nm fanless mac mini. I really love lenovo tiny's, in fact I'm answering from a tiny right now, but lenovo really need to redesign the thermals on tiny units. I wonder how the M80q and M90q units with i9 10900 get TUV certified ?
      By the way, from your experience from all brands (Lenovo, HP, Dell, Aus, Nuk, etc) is the most silent and powerful?

  • @BenState
    @BenState 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i wish we saw more dual NIC RJ45. Nice PF sense box or server.

  • @alexeyfarman
    @alexeyfarman 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Regarding new Rocket Lake Intel desktops CPUs. How big chances are Intel will have supply shortages with it and major vendors should do decision to stay on current gen and wait for 12th one?

  • @MobiusHorizons
    @MobiusHorizons 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    the little plastic bit looks almost exactly like the shield that covers a wifi antenna port. I'm guessing it got dropped during configuration.

  • @JoaoPinto-1983
    @JoaoPinto-1983 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi man. Can you please let me know what are the temps that you get in this cpu on a normal usage, not playing games. Thanks

  • @physxme
    @physxme 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    They also have a model that uses the non-T 10900 CPU, wonder what kind of heat sink they put in there

  • @cameronwheler7367
    @cameronwheler7367 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fantastic video! Picked one based on this, and it rocks! 10700 non-T and swapped in a 980 Pro and 32GB of DDR4-2666 CL15. Does anyone know what the Lenovo part number is for the Lenovo Slot -> PCIe Riser Cable? Interested in doing some interesting hacks or adding 10G ethernet. Thanks!

  • @nmrm7838
    @nmrm7838 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    it is possible to take full advantage of the dp 1.4 port with uhd 630? Or it is just ready for 11th gen uhd 750?

  • @jolness1
    @jolness1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This thing would be great with Thunderbolt. I would grab an eGPU and run it as a set top gaming/media machine.

    • @danilolimadossantos1
      @danilolimadossantos1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Exactly. Everytime I see an Intel Notebook or NUC/1L without a thunderbolt port, I just say: "go AMD instead, then". Thunderbolt is the best avantage Intel has on that section of the market, and it's a waste when an Intel system doesn't have one...

  • @evilZardoz
    @evilZardoz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I literally have a Canon 28-70 sitting on the right hand side of my screen and was a bit confused when it started showing up in the video..! Such a crazy good lens. Shame about the weight!

    • @ServeTheHomeVideo
      @ServeTheHomeVideo  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I actually like the weight since most of my shooting is done in the studio

  • @catsspat
    @catsspat 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ah, them little Lenovo's. I bought one a couple of years ago, just to get a GE & PRO version of an AMD APU, which I promptly moved to a *proper* motherboard that supports ECC memory, so I could build my tiny m-ITX server. Don't worry, I revived the little Lenovo by putting in a Athlon 200GE. Still works fine.

    • @UmVtCg
      @UmVtCg 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I wasn't worried, not even a little bit

  • @certifiedgeek05
    @certifiedgeek05 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey Patrick! Amazing reviews. I am looking for something small like this for a VMware lab, so maybe 3 in the cluster. Would love the option for 16GB or 32GB. What would you recommend?

    • @ServeTheHomeVideo
      @ServeTheHomeVideo  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hi David, I think the challenge with VMware is that the hardware support is generally well behind Linux/ Windows. The one bit to check would be to see how these play with the i219-LM NIC as that is not a server adapter. Most of the AMD models use Realtek NICs which can be a challenge. Generally though I think the 6C/8C models are better value than this 10C unit, but if you just want 25% more physical cores, then this can make sense.

    • @certifiedgeek05
      @certifiedgeek05 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ServeTheHomeVideo You are awesome for responding. Thank you!

  • @denvera1g1
    @denvera1g1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Patric, the tool less option is suposed to include a slim screw(looks just like the standard screw) but then there is a little cresant handle that folds out(looks like the handle for a 5 gallon bucket) you shouild be able to twist it to open, i too was dissapointed until i investigated closer

    • @ServeTheHomeVideo
      @ServeTheHomeVideo  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That is what I was expecting. It is just a bummer that this did not have the option.

    • @denvera1g1
      @denvera1g1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ServeTheHomeVideo Oh dang so they actually didnt get it to you, thats super dissapointing. Wonder if you could find an analog on ebay or something

  • @dawn1berlitz
    @dawn1berlitz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    not a bad system but if i where to get one like to act as a garage music pc i would need a audio out on the back side so i could use the Y cable for my amplifier thats out there

  • @cuchomoon77
    @cuchomoon77 ปีที่แล้ว

    Patrick, i have an m90q with i5 10500t, do you know if i can upgrade the processor to an a i5 11500?, thank you so much.

  • @OTechnology
    @OTechnology 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Can you test if undervolting works on these? An undervolt using throttlestop in windows or intel undervolt in linux would probably really boost the performance on these!

  • @captainxl
    @captainxl 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In a thermal constrained cpu like this, do you really get more performance past a certain number of cores, or are you just trading clock speed for core count?

    • @captainxl
      @captainxl 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I should of watched the video for 1 more minute before posting.

  • @TheFinalRevelation1
    @TheFinalRevelation1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    4GB RAM, what kind of application specific machine is this ?

    • @ServeTheHomeVideo
      @ServeTheHomeVideo  3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      One easily upgraded with 2x 32GB DIMMs for 64GB

    • @TheFinalRevelation1
      @TheFinalRevelation1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@ServeTheHomeVideo I did not see the whole video earlier, thanks

  • @ExtremePilot4472
    @ExtremePilot4472 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Just started watching this series since I work at an E waste company and I'm about to pick up an optiplex 7070 micro i7. That plastic piece at 12:20 looks to be a protective cover for a WiFi antenna cable, they must have lost it while installing the WLAN card and it found its way under the board.

    • @ServeTheHomeVideo
      @ServeTheHomeVideo  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Welcome to Project TinyMiniMicro!

    • @ExtremePilot4472
      @ExtremePilot4472 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ServeTheHomeVideo Thanks! I look forward to collecting and clustering more of these with your guidance in the future

  • @fakhrulhilal
    @fakhrulhilal 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I wonder why lenovo doesn't give thunderbolt port for tiny PC series, even for premium thinkcentre lineup. Intel NUC has this option.

  • @ShubhamBhendarkar
    @ShubhamBhendarkar 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Lets say very awkward, good video, got me looking for what micro computer are available in my country.

  • @user-th3jl8mz7y
    @user-th3jl8mz7y 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for this. Actually, lenovo should REALLY REALLY listen to you. I'm so extremely unhappy with their configurator, there's neither photos nor any further description for options like "dust shield" or "vesa mount", how the thing looks and how your system looks right now on the inside!! I have to come here on STH to figure out what I'm buyin in that configurator because there's so many chances of this or that connector not being soldered when ordering without this or that option there, it's impossible to keep track of all these things without any confirmation on what you're getting!
    I would also get the very minimal config for ram and ssd because I have it all sitting around. But I'm most worried about lack of soldered slots and risers! Thanks for showing your particular config this is extremely helpful. Lenovo should feel ashamed by these reviews.
    Really I have so many things to say about their website lack of any advanced filters and info. Maybe you should submit something to them, maybe they'll listen to you.

    • @todortodorov940
      @todortodorov940 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dust shield is a shield that protects from dust. Vesa mount is a device to attach the PC on a vesa compatible mount.

    • @user-th3jl8mz7y
      @user-th3jl8mz7y 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@todortodorov940 sounds exactly like lenovo sales support. i know that. i also know it's some sort of portable computer, im a smart customer eh
      the point is lenovo doesn't have any proper description and even photos for most of those listed options, as we see here, this dust shield is pretty worthless although costs some money. as for vesa mounts, some can be adapted to actually attach the unit to the back of the display to make a sort of "monoblock" system, which is cool but won't always necessary work, depending on the construction of the mount that's why we need pics and info.

    • @todortodorov940
      @todortodorov940 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@user-th3jl8mz7y You answered your question. Those items are not necessary for the PC to work. If you don't know what they do - you probably don't need them - no need to click them on. As for pictures, no, I don't see the need to have pictures for each item. I don't need a picture of a RAM module, a CPU, a webcam, Microsoft Windows, Adobe Premier or 3 year extended on-site support. I can google. I would prefer Lenovo spending their energy on the product, not on pictures in the webshop.

  • @SomeRandomPerson
    @SomeRandomPerson 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Other than the Lenovo P330/P340 Tiny, is there anything else in this form factor with a real nvidia GPU (so I can get Plex to do proper HW transcoding - intel quicksync isn't fast enough)

    • @aarthas2263
      @aarthas2263 ปีที่แล้ว

      M930X,Dell 7080 mff PCI,MAG TPIDENT3/X/S

  • @andreiflorea
    @andreiflorea 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like dust filters, no matter how small they are :)

  • @deryberrytwo7219
    @deryberrytwo7219 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What is the most powerful lenovo m series?

  • @c123bthunderpig
    @c123bthunderpig 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    These Lenovo units are pretty awesome - from a configuration viewpoint and especially robust case. Patrick does a great job on pointing out the good bad and ugly aspects of the series so check his videos if your looking for one of these units. Yes, Ryzen is improving but I trust Intel over them. Of course it is a personal preverance depending on what you want to do with these mini micro centers.

  • @davidchoral2523
    @davidchoral2523 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Patrick, as I’ve already wrote yesterday if you had to buy a tiny computer for audio production, really powerful but silent as much as possible, which brand and model would you choose? I’m really up for M90q tiny with i9 10900 but the 65W TDP scares me. I would really appreciate your honest opinion.

    • @ServeTheHomeVideo
      @ServeTheHomeVideo  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Probably the M1 Mac Mini. They run at much lower power.

    • @davidchoral2523
      @davidchoral2523 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ServeTheHomeVideo Sorry Patrick my bad, what would you suggest besides mac mini, I'm a windows user.

    • @universidad1234
      @universidad1234 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      My brand new M90q i5 10500T is ultra low noise. Very confortable to work with!

  • @danieljin240
    @danieljin240 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    m90q vs m75q which to pick?

  • @mikebruzzone9570
    @mikebruzzone9570 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I worked with Ergo brick in the beginning on CPU supply and this category has come a long long way. 35w T grades are highly demanded Intel stepped up volume of T and v S, and AMD and ARM, have noticed. mb

    • @mikebruzzone9570
      @mikebruzzone9570 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ARM noticed more than AMD on ability of licensees to supply in volume required for this market vis a vis AMD at 600 wafers or so in 2021. mb

    • @mikebruzzone9570
      @mikebruzzone9570 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      And Via, well, . . . ??? I'm lost here but know why . . . mb

    • @mikebruzzone9570
      @mikebruzzone9570 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mac mini supply volume v Intel 11th is at my Seeking Alpha comment line every 2 weeks back to November. But I will buy C5G 7 nm on the unknown 5 nm transistor endurance consideration and it will be a mini tower.. Office use and home facility management that's it. mb

    • @mikebruzzone9570
      @mikebruzzone9570 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Aha insight for me my attention here ends at E3, for me, but come on, mini cluster, sounds like a Tinker Toy kids gift set. Like the Intel microscope. mb

  • @dt8787
    @dt8787 ปีที่แล้ว

    No CD disk drive?

  • @SA77888
    @SA77888 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ive never heard the term 1 litre computer before. Does that mean it has a 1 litre engine or does it mean if you poured water inside the case it hold would 1 litre??

    • @ServeTheHomeVideo
      @ServeTheHomeVideo  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The volume of these is just over 1L these days as they have gotten a bit bigger. Think more like if you taped it off, the volume they displace would be around 1L

    • @SA77888
      @SA77888 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ServeTheHomeVideo Thats aweseome, thanks for the reply. Im glad you seem to know I was joking re ' engine '!!! :)

  • @steampunkstar_raisin
    @steampunkstar_raisin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why would you custom order the computer with i9 and only 4 gigs of ram? Seems like a waste of CPU upgrade...

  • @zxcvb_bvcxz
    @zxcvb_bvcxz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Worth it as a VM host / build box in a small apartment?

    • @ServeTheHomeVideo
      @ServeTheHomeVideo  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That is the basic idea behind Project TinyMiniMicro

  • @NunoLeal86
    @NunoLeal86 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Any solution for a nas? Maybe one with support for pci so I can add 3.5 hdd?

    • @ServeTheHomeVideo
      @ServeTheHomeVideo  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not really for these. Some just use external USB 3.0 drives, but that scares me.

    • @NunoLeal86
      @NunoLeal86 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ServeTheHomeVideo any other tiny server that I can use other solution than usb?

  • @TheChriscorey
    @TheChriscorey 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    HDMI 1.4 or 2.0?

  • @F1Jackman
    @F1Jackman 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I love the massive 28-70 F2 L that's sitting next to you.

    • @ServeTheHomeVideo
      @ServeTheHomeVideo  3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      That on the R5 is the main photo camera setup for the studio. The Canon C70 is also using a 28-70 F/2 L recording the video.

    • @Bean86
      @Bean86 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ServeTheHomeVideo wish I had the cash for one of these setups - keep up the good work!

  • @kamertonaudiophileplayer847
    @kamertonaudiophileplayer847 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's a pity, they do not sale a bare bone configuration.

    • @ServeTheHomeVideo
      @ServeTheHomeVideo  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They do not have barebones, but usually it is less expensive to get the CPU you want when they go on coupon sale than to buy a barebones and build yourself.

  • @0xKruzr
    @0xKruzr ปีที่แล้ว +1

    does anyone know if you can order the right-angle PCIe riser adapter separately?

    • @ServeTheHomeVideo
      @ServeTheHomeVideo  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      People in the forums have.

    • @0xKruzr
      @0xKruzr ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ServeTheHomeVideo turns out they're all over eBay for about $25. thanks Patrick!

  • @user-th3jl8mz7y
    @user-th3jl8mz7y 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    For those who's very far behind the modern desktops tech: are the CPUs in these lenovo units swappable or soldered in?

    • @Kevinmtzg
      @Kevinmtzg 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Swappable

  • @dn5426
    @dn5426 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    how the fuck are you recording this? It has that podcast quality voice and it is amazing.

    • @ServeTheHomeVideo
      @ServeTheHomeVideo  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ha! I am not sure about that, but certainly better audio than a year ago. Just using the Canon C70 as the recorder and a Rode NTG4+. We have not spent time screwing with the audio in post-production which needs to get done at some point.

    • @dn5426
      @dn5426 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ServeTheHomeVideo Maybe it's your voice who know :P Anyways thanks for setup info.

  • @BS25999
    @BS25999 ปีที่แล้ว

    I would 'not' have internal wifi. The mini pcie slot can then be used for a HD or or all sorts of expansion projects. A USB wifi dongle is $5. The slot is far far too valuable to waste on wifi.

  • @akurenda1985
    @akurenda1985 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Patrick, if I configure that same system mine's over $1400. What magical coupon did you use to get it for under $800 before tax? O.o

    • @ServeTheHomeVideo
      @ServeTheHomeVideo  3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      There was a 45% off coupon at the time. These come around every few weeks as mentioned.

    • @MichaelAlderete
      @MichaelAlderete 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ServeTheHomeVideo Would be great to say _where_ the coupons “come around”.

    • @brentgreeff1115
      @brentgreeff1115 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ServeTheHomeVideo - Are you subscribed to their email newsletter or something? - This machine is very appealing at that price, but I am in Europe. - It would be great to see more linux coverage. - ie how well this runs VMs or Kubernetes VS a 8500. One big factor in having a lot of programs running is cache. - I have a feeling that running a dozen or so processes - Postgres, Redis, web-servers etc will run far better in a machine with more cores especially if there is more cache, - I am really keen on the 8500 but I ran Kubernetes on a 6-core machine and the fan was always spinning. - You keep refering to Kube and the goals of TMM but I for one would be keen to see these machine actually running Kube workloads because I think there will be marked differences between them,

    • @brentgreeff1115
      @brentgreeff1115 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      - Is there not a Kube benchmark tool that is not too hard to run? - 7zip etc is interesting, but... not hugely.

  • @nabbe63o
    @nabbe63o 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where can I buy these used for a good price

  • @magicflute5947
    @magicflute5947 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It will be great if it has 4 dimm slots for 128GB ram capacity.

  • @UntouchedWagons
    @UntouchedWagons 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What camera lens is that in the background?

    • @ServeTheHomeVideo
      @ServeTheHomeVideo  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Canon R5 w/ 28-70mm f/2L

    • @criostasis
      @criostasis 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ServeTheHomeVideo just picked up a 90D w 18-135 is usm for my photography class this semester. Total noob at photography so maybe this is a bit overkill for just starting out 😂

    • @ServeTheHomeVideo
      @ServeTheHomeVideo  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@criostasis Super!

  • @LeicaM11
    @LeicaM11 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great processor. I do not like fan cooled PCs since 2014. I am using passive cooled systems only. I am enjoying the absolute silence. Paid 800€ for my first SSD, with 32GB😂

    • @R1BNC
      @R1BNC 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree, it is pain when the fan dies

  • @elevul
    @elevul 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    And it still doesn't have dual Ethernet... And if you have to add a NIC it's a nightmare to find the pieces required to install it.

    • @bobcarpenter1551
      @bobcarpenter1551 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      If you purchase the Lenovo 4 Port NIC Kit it comes with the riser for the TIny. 4XC0R41416 as Patrick said though, it's a WHOLE lot cheaper to buy it in your build than after.

    • @aetherspoon
      @aetherspoon 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You could also use that rear USB-C port for a 2.5 GbE adapter.

  • @Airbag888
    @Airbag888 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    not enough sata/nvme for me to turn this into a NAS even though it has a pci-x 3.0x16, I'd use that for a 10gbe sfp+
    Power consumption is nice though. overall I think the ryzen counterpart still wins

    • @bobcarpenter1551
      @bobcarpenter1551 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's actually an x8 electrical connection. The AMDs don't have the slot option (sadly) been looking for an sfp+ adapter that will be thin and cool enough to run inside.

    • @Airbag888
      @Airbag888 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bobcarpenter1551 yeah they're toying with us. Just missing the 10gbe and some sata/nvme
      Even the 3000 epyc embedded seem to have been abandoned

  • @michh2836
    @michh2836 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lenovo 💪👍😍 💥🔥🔥🔥

  • @freddyt55555
    @freddyt55555 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The M95q with 4750GE will smoke this, and with 2 fewer cores.

  • @audigex
    @audigex 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "USB 5 gen 2.1.2 stardate 35414.9" - can we just start referring to them by the speed - 5Gbps, 10Gbps etc, it's the only way that actually makes any sense now

  • @TheDillio187
    @TheDillio187 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    It’s dumb that this machine has dual m.2 slots but the m75 g2 doesn’t.

  • @BLASTIC0
    @BLASTIC0 ปีที่แล้ว

    I guess its time for me to figure out whatever the heck 10C/20T means.

  • @Camhin1
    @Camhin1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm really disappointed in Lenovos new offerings especially with the new thinkpads. In Australia there's no good configurations for the t series and the t495 doesn't have any customisability and no external battery.

    • @aarthas2263
      @aarthas2263 ปีที่แล้ว

      USA Lenovo thinkpad

  • @johnh1353
    @johnh1353 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yikes! $1000 starting? not really good for a home lab node ( new arch or not) ... you can get a 2S E-5 node for half that ... although you'd probably be draining have the resources of your city's power by running that one server alone ... look on the bright side, you'll be able to keep your neighborhood warm during those cold winters 🔥

    • @ServeTheHomeVideo
      @ServeTheHomeVideo  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Being fair, that $1K starting is for the top-bin SKU.

    • @todortodorov940
      @todortodorov940 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The vPro models always add a decent extra on the price. They (Intel and Lenovo) know that vPro is for enterprise customers and those often do not care that much about price - they need the vPro manageability.

  • @llortaton2834
    @llortaton2834 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    if no ECC i no buy

  • @denvera1g1
    @denvera1g1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm waiting for that THINKDESK45 45% of coupon, picked up a couple of the 4750GE based units with min/max setup only 4GB of single channel memory and a 500GB HDD for only $530, could have gotten it for $488, but i wanted the rear USB-C windows 10 Pro, and the tool-less entry
    ordered 32GB of tighter timing RAM(still 3200mhz) and a 500GB SSD, swapped the 500GB HDD with 2TB HDDs i had on hand and its a snappy little system with good graphics. Once i can buy a video card i'll probably flip them on ebay for about what i paid for them(plus the cost of RAM and SSD)

    • @chrisainsley3533
      @chrisainsley3533 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I ordered the same machine at the same time with the same offer with the same CPU. I checked my order status for a couple of weeks, and about 6 weeks into the order, the order status changed to "cancelled". I didn't receive an email about the cancellation, they just silently cancelled it. I then had hours of hassle to get them to honour the order, and reordered at the same price, with assurances it was now dealt with with priority, and would not be silently cancelled again. Another few weeks passed, and I was checking the order status - and guess what happened. Yep, cancelled again without my consent or even notifying me with an email. I called up again, and they told me that that model had been discontinued, and they could not fulfil my order. So in the end it cost me a couple of months of waiting. Lenovo seems to have a policy of silent cancellations without informing customers, so I'll be very wary of ordering from them in future. I was gutted. The 4750GE in that form factor, with support for 64GB of RAM was EXACTLY what I was (and am) looking for. This machine is interesting but I'd like either 11th gen, or AMD GPU, in order to be the complete package.

    • @denvera1g1
      @denvera1g1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@chrisainsley3533 I got an email today saying my last order was canceled
      Just curious, on your model did you notice the PCIe slot, that was missing the slot? On mine there are clearly traces/pins where the PCIe 16x slot would go, there just isnt a connector like on the Thinkcentre M90Q. Wondering if they'll offer a 'secret' config with a 5900e(12 core 35w) with a decrete GPU somewhat like the M920X

    • @chrisainsley3533
      @chrisainsley3533 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@denvera1g1 I wouldn't worry about future models when they can't even ship current models. The way I see it (this is total speculation) is that the "great chip shortage" has destroyed their supply chain, and they are being forced to cancel orders. Also - if you want something with the 5900e, and a discrete CPU, it's not going to fit in this form factor anyway. It'll need more cooling than a chassis this size can provide. I'm so frustrated that Lenovo really made the best form factor PC, but they can't actually ship it. I can see this situation lasting at least 2 more years.

  • @islandsedition
    @islandsedition 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hahahaha. "High" sales tax at less than 10%! Our sales tax (VAT) in Europe and the UK is usually around 18%.

    • @ServeTheHomeVideo
      @ServeTheHomeVideo  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Relatively high for the US. Oregon, the state north of California is 0%

    • @islandsedition
      @islandsedition 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ServeTheHomeVideo always interesting to see how things work in different places. I thought 10%ish was good but 0%, that is quite a gift.

  • @arjdroid
    @arjdroid 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Unfortunately the newer version will max out at 8c16t due to dumb decisions from Intel lol

  • @ierosgr
    @ierosgr 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    10/20 core/threads with one nic ..... that price also ....pffffffffffffff... Next one

  • @redtails
    @redtails 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why is it that OEM PCs never have decent air filtering? This machine will be ruined in

    • @ServeTheHomeVideo
      @ServeTheHomeVideo  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think that is what the dust filter option is for

  • @dannyy3374
    @dannyy3374 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I would bite if it had a 2.5G nic

    • @user-th3jl8mz7y
      @user-th3jl8mz7y 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      thats where the pcie slot comes in handy but yeah, the era of 1g ethernet has to end...

  • @Matlockization
    @Matlockization 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Intel TDP 135W ? That's bad.

    • @ServeTheHomeVideo
      @ServeTheHomeVideo  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      35W TDP, 135W power adapter

    • @Matlockization
      @Matlockization 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ServeTheHomeVideo Thankyou. Although I wouldn't mind a desktop CPU that is lower than the usual 65W. Perhaps in whatever gen.

  • @dbzssj4678
    @dbzssj4678 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    lol 1.9 ghz, waste of sand

  • @psiklops71
    @psiklops71 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    so tiny just right

  • @c3rberus27
    @c3rberus27 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Looks Like a PS2

  • @darrensmith5983
    @darrensmith5983 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    No general specs? AMD APU, Intel or thermal solution. Aww come on. Thumb down :-(

    • @ServeTheHomeVideo
      @ServeTheHomeVideo  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      We cover this is Intel in the video, as well as mentioning the M75q-2 video we did (also linked in the description.) The main site article linked has all of the major configuration options including CPUs, TDPs of those CPUs, and WiFi options. Reading off a list of 20+ Intel SKUs would be quite boring.

  • @LackofFaithify
    @LackofFaithify 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    lenovo quality slipping huh? What, gave their....employees...cough hack cough....a day off? Shame.

  • @AhmadReshadRahmani
    @AhmadReshadRahmani 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Videos to long!!

  • @isuelt
    @isuelt 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    DUST your background !