The discovery of temples submerged over 50 metres down in Lake Titicaca indicate that its level was once much lower, which contradicts your suggestion.
@@stephenphillips4984 yes that would. However there is other evidence that states that the level was higher at another point in time. Brian Forster does a show.
@@stephenphillips4984 Lake titicaca was once part of the ocean and below sea level, it is the only place where certain species of salt water fish exist as fresh water, the only fresh water seahorses on the planet live there, there was an upthrust of the earths crust a long time ago that pushed part of the ocean floor up so high they became mountains.
Brien, I have known about the Inca, Maya, Aztec and their incredible building techniques for years. Recently running across some videos from your TH-cam channel, I have become enlightened, astonished, and now mesmerized! I am learning so much that I had no idea about and the fever of archeology has taken over me. I can't get enough thanks to people like you! You are an excellent guide with mountains of knowledge and I appreciate you sharing this incredible education!!!!
Brien long time subscriber from the beginning. You need to go to lake Van in Turkey. It's a littered mega lithic site above and under water. The 2nd most navigable lake in the world. Thank you from North Dakota next to your home state of MN.
…just so we’re absolutely CLEAR: There is NO such era called the Megalithic. Period. It is made up. It is a made up name created by pseudo-archaeologists. It is NOT a real thing.
Great quality videos from so many interesting places. Some of them, like Quenuani, virtually unknown. I wonder how much will we learn just within the next decade thanks to the modern technologies like lidar.
That place is awesome! I notice that people eat lunch there and just drop the trash on the ground. Isn't that nice? If you carried it in then carry it out just seems reasonable to me.
I was applaud at seeing this site used as a garbage can and even a toilet in one part!!!😢 A$$holes. Pardon my language, but, it certainly applies. Such a beautiful and mysterious site. I hope I get the honor of getting to visit this, and other sites in the area one day. Might even bring a garbage bag and some rubber gloves. Clean the site up a bit. Whatever I can to contribute to the conservation of such a wonderful, ancient place.
like canoe races, triathlons? or like an early ball game on the field, or athletics. or with the acoustics it could be large scale story telling spot, beat poetry maybe?
@@TS-kb6lv I think you're right. I can see the Aztecs in full ceremonial garments spitting out some hot Slam poetry. Early rap battle's and losers get sacrificed
You know, I heard that construction was running behind schedule and they opened the venue early just for that concert. Ticket prices were suposedly really cheap because of that. A whole family could get in with a single virgin sacrificed to the back stage pass, to be collected after the concert of course. Don't worry It's not the typical Incan human sacrifice. She'll be returned safe the next morning with a little more experience, maybe a slight drug addiction, and a potential addition to the family in the near future.
@@isaacdisraelisaenzmori6043 ??? Are we not allowed to have a little fun and throw around a little BS? I don't think anyone was being serious in this comment thread.
For me it clearly looks like an ancient bathing side. Once back in time the shore must have been higher than nowadays reaching the end of the stairs which lead to the ground area.
It looks like an amphitheater with rows of seats, steps to get to different levels, a playing field down in front, and a place for the referee to sit and be heard by the players.
Looks like a boat harbour to me, I remember seeing the stand line data on lake Titicaca in one of unchartedX videos, a lot of isostatic uplift in that area..
I've seen a few of these places in person on my travels around the world with the military. Never got to Peru. It's on the bucket list though, we'll have to see what happens.
the lake used to be at the very age of the "stairs," built by Toltecs ( not Toltec culture, but toltecs - translate as 'men of knowledge' ) ancient technique of gazing into the water.....
Brien, thank you - yet again - for educating me of a place I will never be able to visit myself, let alone ever know about if not for you. I feel privileged that you share these explorations with me and I am very grateful to you. What I imagine when looking at this site is that it was incomplete; interrupted by something - perhaps even the same disaster that fell upon Puma Punku (a flood perhaps?). And the round spot seems to be where the royals would have sat and the mound left in front would have served as the table upon which would be placed a feast for the royals. And the large chair in front of that (but below it) could have been a seat for the king or even the judges (if competitions were held on the grounds, or even legal proceedings). I can believe it was more than a theater, but used also as a court.
This may already have been mentioned, I didn’t read all posts. Could the benches have been seating for the average citizen and the semi-circle have been seating for royals? With that in front of the “trench” being a table for them?
Inca Qamaña, "the resting place of the Inca", where they performed rituals of spiritual health by playing sounds in the semicircular place to renew the energy of the sitting people on the large stairs. The Aymara still perform new year rituals at this site
The middle round part looks like a booth/bench where the king and/or their council sit. The area right below it is a bench/table of sorts where a person would present themselves in front of the king/council. The rest of the bench seating would be for VIP types. The field in front of of this place could have been used as a ceremonial spot where performances were played out on land and maybe even the water behind it. It could have also doubled as a court room of sorts. Either way, that's a booth seat like at a restaurant and the table/bench below and in front of it is where the defendant/offerings would go. Seat may have good acoustics on accident or on purpose so everyone in front could hear the king/council better.
It looks like knobs may be found here also. At 9:00 I saw what may have been knobs. The place has much weathering. Thanks I only saw this place one time a few years ago on yt. Very interesting place.
That is cool thanks. I noticed many times that certain things in comment get linked. i never clicked on them. I just edited my original comment with the time stamp. Thanks.@@woodhonky3890
When travelling in a twin Cessna I noticed some large ruins also located near the main highway running north from Lima. We landed at a nearby airport and took a taxi back to the ruins. A lone watchman kept an eye on the place. There were no other tourists other than my girlfriend and I. If I recall correctly, this was a community built by the "Mochi" people, long before the Incas came to be. There's so much history not easily explained. Stone tools have been found more than a million years old, I'm reading. Dunno. There's a lot for curious people to wonder about, like this place you're documenting. Nice photo details.
As I understand it, Lake Titicaca was a sacred lake, at least to the Peruvians. There was a ceremony performed there, of putting (dropping by boat?) pure gold statuettes of the gods into the lake as a purification and blessing ceremony (water holds frequencies). That small central curved seating area seems to have a libation table in front of it. Perhaps this was a public ceremony space to assure the perfect conditions for their crops and lifestyle. This ritual could have predated the Inca people but carried on in some form in their time.... Just a thought.
The bottom looks like it was ground in a bit from wave action. From the lake or from when it was at sea level when it was a inland sea? It would be interesting to dig up some of that soil below it.
Hey boss, long time admirer of your research. I've always been fascinated by ancient megalithic sites, and would really have liked to see this from above. You didn't get any complete aerial shots that allow us to see the whole immediate area from above. I think you might be surprised when you study many of these giant formations with a birds eye view. This looks exactly like symbols in Egyptian glyphs and wall paintings I've seen. I believe it could be some sort of elaborate sacrifice/offering alter, used in ancient rituals. The shape of it is obviously important. For more ways than first realized. Gotta see these places someday. Thanx.
Interesting observation. At 09:52 there appears to be a well worn statue of a large cat lying down. Like a jaguar. The head is on the left. Carved out of the stone. There is a groove around its hindquarters near the stairs.
Very good observation. I had wondered why the stairs curve round this. If all the material in the slope is tufa, then (probably) there would be no reason for this bulge in it to exist unless it had been deliberately sculpted to form an organic shape, which could indeed be a large lying cat.
Fascinating. The curved staircase to the left seem to encircle a stone relief that looks as if it has been ruined? Maybe the lake was larger previously and the steps led into the water?
Acoustic technology and placement .... just like the Mars complex looking out at a memorial , almost the same design , facing bodies of water or it used to have water, until a crossing of Nibiru took out it's atmosphere,so that's matching prints across the globe and now we can add near earth heavenly bodies, same tool marks and advanced megalithic infrastructure building that is a face on Mars of one named Alalu
If the lake was larger then clearly you can get onto a raft or vessel to be transported across the lake. The centre landing point indicates high status platform & an offering table. People could wave off any party on what ever journey they where on. Transportation would be limited in numbers . It should then link to other sites. We constantly under estimate the people who went before us. Is this a pilgrimage to their gods. It certainly is not a plain docking station. If it links to other places do they provide other clues or continuity in design. Or is this the only place on the lake with this rock composition formation. Lots of questions really.
Volcanic material is extremely eroded, & it would seam that some Geologists could figure out when it was carved? Reminds me of the Megolithic Sites in India, where the whole Structure is carved right into the Mountain. One can speculate, that there is a beehive of tunnels & chambers, still hidden in this Monolith. Also it might have much more steps, & entrances 20 to 30 feet still under the farmers fields?
I IMAGINE....That it's a Stadia from which to host and view a Tribal Event. The center section is for Royalty. The semi-circle is for the Royal Banquet and/or the Chief could also stand on to announce the commencement and winners of the event. The long bench just below it is the winner's podium (which must not be higher than Royalty), which I suggest could accommodate approximately six people. The event itself may have been a village challenge, with the contestants having to make their way across the river to retrieve and return an item of significance. Easter Island had a similar tribal challenge.
The amphitheater style terraced seating with the central round platform and the two short bent staircases descending from the middle section are not only functional elements for the purpose of seating for mass gatherings. I am struck by the impression that this whole section is a huge BIRD EFFIGY, just look at the drone footage around the 8:20 timestamp. The middle round part and slight irregularity to the left of it make up the head/body, the long straight, terraced portions on either side are wings, and the two short bent flights of stairs coming down from the middle are bird legs. It is very similar in configuration to the common representation in ancient Egyptian iconography of the falcon/hawk with extended wings (the kind usually interpreted as being a symbol/form of Isis) or the winged sun disk with two uraeus cobras sprouting from the disk (as seen over many temple entrances and very widespread in their visual art). The way the rows of feathers are arranged in parallel rows is quite strikingly similar to the contrasting parallel bands of light/shadow on the terraced seating. Was this lighting even perhaps a deliberate design feature, as we see employed at other megalithic sites in this region and around the world? Its worth a good long think. Also, it faces Lake Titicaca, which apparently may be named in connection with two sacred birds called "Titi" and "Caca" which are attested in the surviving mythologies of some Polynesian cultures which were likely global seafarers in various ancient times and likely visited this region (this is just a random detail that I gleaned from Freddy Silva's film about sunken continents, the flood, etc, which I can't remember the name of currently.) So if that is an accurate piece of info, there's another point for why they put a huge bird effigy that doubles as seating for ritual that looks upon this particular lake. And the arch of stairs to the far left encloses some stuff that was almost definitely recognizable carved sculpture in the distant past and has just weathered beyond recognizability (there are also some neat examples of similarly degraded megalithic art in the same Freddy Silva film I mention above)
My ultra-logical engineer’s brain makes me think this structure was designed for spectating something happening on, or in, the lake itself. Perhaps some kind of mock battle as the Romans had in the Colosseum, or maybe to welcome some visitors from the lake, as the legend of Vercocha describes (though much older)? I also imagine the acoustic properties of the “VIP” center portion allow the speaker to be heard far out into the lake as sound travels much farther over water than it does land. 🤔
Thank you for your work! I think the system looks like it would be used for “maritime” purposes! Aquaculture or with higher water levels a fishing port and market as an option.
I see it as a ceremonial place of power. I can visualize the elites (homo carpensis) with their festive robes lined up on either side. The orator stands in the semicircle speaking to the natives that have gathered for the feast. Like the Pope at the Vatican addressing the public. This is a definable place of power and magic, especially to be able to see the other sacred sites. That is a big deal in the world of shamanic intentions.
THAT looks like an ancient water park full of waterfalls and water features. About 3-8 inches of water would evenly run down across the smooth surface providing cool relief for hundreds of people lucky enough to find a seat on the multiple rows of benches. People could walk the shallow stairs up and around the main waterfall, or meander around the various wading areas. It would have looked beautiful and sounded amazing with all of water cascading down. It even looks like the large curved area has a central stone placed above with two carved scoops marks to either side below it to divert and manipulate the flow of water into an artistic surface pattern.
I wonder about the area within the circle of stairs because it is framed in some carving itself which intimates that it meant something and not just a rough area to be bypassed. A closer inspection , climbing up on it and looking , could reveal something . As rough as the surfaces are there , I wonder if the entire place was plastered at some point to a smooth finish but time has ruined it . Back to the circle of stairs @9:50 you can see three obvious indentations with one in the center and it does not look natural , at least from the image anyway . Thanks for the share Brien . :O)
I was struck by a similar thought during a stream of strong impressions that were enabled primarily by the amazing quality of this video and how it captured the site better than any documentary footage of this location that I've ever seen. It provides such an extensive, thorough site coverage, from all the striking visual perspectives, doesn't rush any of it, and highlights small details and as well as the larger views of the site in totality or near totality. I felt that I was able to truly "take in" this place, perhaps better even than visiting in person. The drone shots from a higher overall perspective really gave me some ideas that I haven't heard expressed elsewhere. The main long "bleacher/amphitheatre style" seating area, with the rounded platform in the center, especially when sunlit as we see here, is decorated with the light, different features with strong geometric outlines are either highlighted with sun or shadowed dramatically to create striking patterns and contrast, a technique exhibited at other megalithic sites in the Americas (best known example is probably the big pyramid at Tenoctitlan, the wavy serpent body becoming visible descending the staircases and comnecting to the sculpted serpent head features at the base of each side, when the perfect shadowing effect is produced on the equinox every year) and employed with mind boggling skill and precision by mysterious ancient megalith building cultures in many parts of the world. This, 'amphitheater seating' strikes me as being almost an effigy mound type of construction, as it resembles a hawk or some other similar bird. The straight seating sections are the wings with the feather layers painted with the light and shadow, and notice that they are actually at ascending height as they extend away from the center round podium area (the head/body of the bird) and are actually higher up at the very ends than the podium seating without any practical need to be higher since there are no visual obstructions. Why would these seats be higher than the central podium seating if that was meant to be a place for reserved for the most honored attendees, nobles/rulers or something. I posit that this is a stylistic choice to depict the bird effigy as if in active flight. Then the weird clincher is that if you look right below the central podium (bird body) there are two short staircases, one from each side, descending a short distance but both with a significant bend at the mide (again no obvious practical reason to go to the trouble of doing the bend rather than a straight run of stairs), and both bend in the same direction where one would expect them to be mirrored across the centerline like the straight seating "in the wings" (pardon the pun - these days one might even consider that this was the very linguistic origin of that peculiar turn of phrase - honestly I wouldnt even be suprised at this point with how things have been going with the constant switching of paradigms that we increasingly live in), if only rules of symmetry were being considered to generate these geometric features. I think those bent staircases, bent in the same direction, look quite a bit like skinny, crooked bird legs hanging below a hawk in flight. Also, given that middle podium would be the birds body/head, its circularity does also give impressions of the common ancient Egyptian symbol of the winged sun disk, oftentimes portrayed with two uraeus cobras extending from the central radiant sun disk in a way that gives impressions of those bent staircases. That said, the area that the previous commenter remarked on, the area surrounded by the arch of stairs with the three-ish, kind-of-rounded irregular projections within the boundary, does indeed look to me that it could have been a beautifully carved structure that is weathered and degraded to the point of being barely even noticed (compare to the Carpathian Sphinx). It gives me the impression that it was once a huge face.
i wouldn't have been able to walk by all that litter without picking some up man. erm, looks like an observation area for a ruling class maybe, based on the view of the lake? or perhaps somewhere the ruling class would sit to address their assembled subjects. the central seating area looks suspiciously throne-like, and the acoustics would lend themselves to it being somewhere an orator or leader would stand/sit to speak. mosques, for example, have niches in the wall where the imam stands that project his voice so this could be similar. i don't but that it's an arena necessarily but it could be. your point about it probably not being made with hand tools is odd, i mean what other kind of tools would've been used? projects like this would take decades to complete, and this is on the less sophisticated level compared to, say, petra's rock-hewn temples
09:54 Striking symmetry and clearly visible carving of the rock formation; with the rings around the two outer remains of something, and in the center the ditch around something. The steps and rows of seats appear to me to be of more recent construction, are much less eroded.
Seating for viewing the king washing the gold off in lake titicaca? Or seating for the king and officials and priests with the regular people sitting on the ground below? Where was the lake shore when this was occupied?
I think it's a sacrificial alter to their God or God's, which resided in the lake(possibly manifested as a great serpent or other nightmare). This altar is different and positioned low to the ground, which tells me this "God" didn't descend from the skies like in other parts of the world at this time. But it crawled or slithered out of the lake itself. The virgin or child would be presented on the slab in the semicircle, and the alcove cut out of the rock. The high priest and people of the highest social standing would seat themselves on all the cut-out bleacher like seating closest to the altar near ground level. (So they could be graced with the privilege of being closest to their god. The lower class did not get seats but filled the surrounding areas and hillside around the bleachers. All these "God's" are the reason all of these pyramids and such were constructed during this megalithic period, I believe. They are the same things presenting themselves now as aliens in our skys. They used to run this world, and our civilization. Until God intervened and wiped everyone and everything off the face of the planet. ALMOST.
This is amazing. Thanks for showing this. Is it a It's so sad that people just throw their garbage on the ground though. It's easy enough to bring a bag.
The lake water must have come up to this site long ago. The diagonal lines make interesting diamond shapes one with that lone stone sitting in the middle of it. Curious place.
I agree. It would have been nice to turn round and get a view of the lake that the audience would have viewed. It would also help if you would explain what in the distance over the lake that we are looking at. Thanks Brien for your very interesting videos.
Very interesting....enjoyed the clip. You know , I was disappointed to see discarded liter on the ground, mainly it looks like sandwich boxes.. To me I regard littering at a site such as this beside a water body to be disrespectful.. insensitive and lazy
Well worn steps leading to a terrace of seating with a central semi circular seat. Overlooking Titikaka which could have lapped against the terrace and could have been the focus of some kind of boat event or even sacrifice rituals conducted in the centre.
So filmed in 2018. What else can you now tell us? Sight from above and braving the cave would give a little more light on the sight. Thank you. Kia ora
It looks very cerimonial. Like an occult ritual structure. Like rows of important people sit along the platforms and the most important people would sit around the inner circle. The plaform at the front looks like the perfect size to sacrifice someone on.
I recently learned an interesting fact about tuff. After a volacono erupts, the ash forms a soft layer on top of the soil, but when it rains, or the ash gets wet, it turns into hard tuff. This effect has been observed in modern times after volcanic eruptions. So these steps might have been cut out of the soft ash and then hardened by rain.
I did some further research on this place. Its name and location are "INKA QAMAÑA (El descanso del inca), Yunguyo, Perú". Also known as “The Rest of the Inca”. The geographical coordinates are, 16°15'32.90"S, 69°10'17.72"W.
Just a thought. If the lake level was higher the steps could be for bathing terraces
I was thinking the same.
The discovery of temples submerged over 50 metres down in Lake Titicaca indicate that its level was once much lower, which contradicts your suggestion.
@@stephenphillips4984 yes that would. However there is other evidence that states that the level was higher at another point in time. Brian Forster does a show.
@@stephenphillips4984 Lake titicaca was once part of the ocean and below sea level, it is the only place where certain species of salt water fish exist as fresh water, the only fresh water seahorses on the planet live there, there was an upthrust of the earths crust a long time ago that pushed part of the ocean floor up so high they became mountains.
To me it looks like a sporting pitch or ball field.
Brien, I have known about the Inca, Maya, Aztec and their incredible building techniques for years. Recently running across some videos from your TH-cam channel, I have become enlightened, astonished, and now mesmerized! I am learning so much that I had no idea about and the fever of archeology has taken over me. I can't get enough thanks to people like you! You are an excellent guide with mountains of knowledge and I appreciate you sharing this incredible education!!!!
Brien long time subscriber from the beginning. You need to go to lake Van in Turkey. It's a littered mega lithic site above and under water. The 2nd most navigable lake in the world. Thank you from North Dakota next to your home state of MN.
Do you mean Lake Van?
And what does the second most navigable lake in the world mean??😮
@@gedofgont1006 Oops i'll edit and fix that spelling. It means navigable by boat, and the highest navigable lake happens to be Titicaca.
Your are right, and all along the southern coast line too, explored it in the 80's, 👍
Brien is going to do a documentary with Matthew LaCroix and others that will talk about Lake Van.
…just so we’re absolutely CLEAR: There is NO such era called the Megalithic. Period. It is made up. It is a made up name created by pseudo-archaeologists. It is NOT a real thing.
Getting to see megalithic sites that I didn't know about is something I thank you greatly for Brien. 🙏
The beep had me checking my smoke detector. Nice video.
Had me checking the food I left in the microwave 😂
Microwave as well
Thank you Brian, for sharing a world i will probably never be fortunate enough to visit. I Appreciate it.
Thank you Brien, for showing us these out of the way, places.
Great quality videos from so many interesting places. Some of them, like Quenuani, virtually unknown.
I wonder how much will we learn just within the next decade thanks to the modern technologies like lidar.
That place is awesome! I notice that people eat lunch there and just drop the trash on the ground. Isn't that nice? If you carried it in then carry it out just seems reasonable to me.
Sure, and you get the A-HOLE award.@@nancypelosi480
I was applaud at seeing this site used as a garbage can and even a toilet in one part!!!😢 A$$holes. Pardon my language, but, it certainly applies. Such a beautiful and mysterious site. I hope I get the honor of getting to visit this, and other sites in the area one day. Might even bring a garbage bag and some rubber gloves. Clean the site up a bit. Whatever I can to contribute to the conservation of such a wonderful, ancient place.
@@nancypelosi480apparently it isn't obvious to some people...keep your award, you've earned it.
I've watched several videos from Cairo and the pyramids in Egypt and was shocked to see so much trash laying everywhere.
People made it with hand tools that's all they had back then basically basic stuff
Your work has been appreciated for years. Thank you.
Work? Yeah, he acts like he built it, but it ain't so.
I absolutely enjoy your quadcopter views.
Maybe a gathering place for Swimming/Paddling Events in the Lake or a Market Place for distributing Fish caught from the Lake?
Stands to watch water games? You always give us things to ponder, someday hopefully we'll figure one out. Thank you
Kind of seems like that when you are there.
like canoe races, triathlons? or like an early ball game on the field, or athletics. or with the acoustics it could be large scale story telling spot, beat poetry maybe?
It is where they watched the Alien spacecraft take off and land, obviously.
@@TS-kb6lv I think you're right. I can see the Aztecs in full ceremonial garments spitting out some hot Slam poetry. Early rap battle's and losers get sacrificed
Nice, very nice! Thanks for sharing. Look forward to seeing more. : )
I think it's where The Rolling Stones held their very first live concert.
You know, I heard that construction was running behind schedule and they opened the venue early just for that concert. Ticket prices were suposedly really cheap because of that. A whole family could get in with a single virgin sacrificed to the back stage pass, to be collected after the concert of course. Don't worry It's not the typical Incan human sacrifice. She'll be returned safe the next morning with a little more experience, maybe a slight drug addiction, and a potential addition to the family in the near future.
@@Turk_85 That just warms my heart to hear everything went well from the very beginning! I'd say a good time had by all!
To new sorry, they put one on there much later.
Your mind is so reduced.
@@isaacdisraelisaenzmori6043 ??? Are we not allowed to have a little fun and throw around a little BS? I don't think anyone was being serious in this comment thread.
Também vim agradecer. Provavelmente nunca irei até lá, mas sua paixão compartilhada nos permite conhecer lugares pouco divulgados. Tks, Brien!
Brien thank you very much! 🙏 With your excellent work we are learning more and more about our mysterious and fascinating ancient civilizations.
For me it clearly looks like an ancient bathing side. Once back in time the shore must have been higher than nowadays reaching the end of the stairs which lead to the ground area.
My thoughts as well.
I think this is it. Water was higher or land was lower.
It looks like an amphitheater with rows of seats, steps to get to different levels, a playing field down in front, and a place for the referee to sit and be heard by the players.
That's kind of what it seems like in person, but it's also almost right on the lakeshore. It is fascinating.
Maybe it is a VIP lounge in the middle? And if it was directly at the lake, it could have been boat races or swimming events?
Maybe an amphitheater for a similar game played by the Mayans in Chichen-Itzá?
Interessantes Video zu einer atemberaubenden Städte. Aber der ganze Müll, der da rumliegt regt mich echt auf.
Thank you. It looks like to me that was once the shore line!
Looks like a boat harbour to me, I remember seeing the stand line data on lake Titicaca in one of unchartedX videos, a lot of isostatic uplift in that area..
I am guessing those bottom stairs went right into the water at an earlier period when the lake was a little higher.
Estoy de acuerdo, era para baños rituales. .. Donde está está maravilla?????
Could the lake at one time have been higher, and came up yo the stairs?
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I've seen a few of these places in person on my travels around the world with the military. Never got to Peru. It's on the bucket list though, we'll have to see what happens.
Beautiful design
The lines are gentle
yet enigmatic
Thank you for this great insight.
There did seem to be two lateral grooves 9:36 .
I would love to visit this wonder.
the lake used to be at the very age of the "stairs," built by Toltecs ( not Toltec culture, but toltecs - translate as 'men of knowledge' ) ancient technique of gazing into the water.....
Brien, thank you - yet again - for educating me of a place I will never be able to visit myself, let alone ever know about if not for you.
I feel privileged that you share these explorations with me and I am very grateful to you.
What I imagine when looking at this site is that it was incomplete; interrupted by something - perhaps even the same disaster that fell upon Puma Punku (a flood perhaps?).
And the round spot seems to be where the royals would have sat and the mound left in front would have served as the table upon which would be placed a feast for the royals.
And the large chair in front of that (but below it) could have been a seat for the king or even the judges (if competitions were held on the grounds, or even legal proceedings).
I can believe it was more than a theater, but used also as a court.
you really believe this guy, oh my
This guy is a fool and a charlatan. You’re not being educated one bit.
This may already have been mentioned, I didn’t read all posts.
Could the benches have been seating for the average citizen and the semi-circle have been seating for royals? With that in front of the “trench” being a table for them?
That's what I thought, front lower area for king and queen to dine while watching games, semicircle area for children / other royalty.
@@jonathanpeters4240 Yes, my thoughts as well!
Inca Qamaña, "the resting place of the Inca", where they performed rituals of spiritual health by playing sounds in the semicircular place to renew the energy of the sitting people on the large stairs. The Aymara still perform new year rituals at this site
Great, but they did not build it as you seem to imply. 😊
The middle round part looks like a booth/bench where the king and/or their council sit. The area right below it is a bench/table of sorts where a person would present themselves in front of the king/council. The rest of the bench seating would be for VIP types. The field in front of of this place could have been used as a ceremonial spot where performances were played out on land and maybe even the water behind it. It could have also doubled as a court room of sorts. Either way, that's a booth seat like at a restaurant and the table/bench below and in front of it is where the defendant/offerings would go. Seat may have good acoustics on accident or on purpose so everyone in front could hear the king/council better.
It looks like knobs may be found here also. At 9:00 I saw what may have been knobs. The place has much weathering. Thanks I only saw this place one time a few years ago on yt. Very interesting place.
If you type 9min as 9:00 it will turn blue and when clicked on by anyone reading these comments will immediately go to that timestamp in the video.
That is cool thanks. I noticed many times that certain things in comment get linked. i never clicked on them. I just edited my original comment with the time stamp. Thanks.@@woodhonky3890
My first time seeing that site, and WOW!!! Absolutely beautiful. My imagination just runs wild seeing this. Wow. Amazing. Great video!!!
Interesting diagonal marks on the rock. Reminds me a bit of the Malta "cart track" artefacts.
When travelling in a twin Cessna I noticed some large ruins also located near the main highway running north from Lima. We landed at a nearby airport and took a taxi back to the ruins. A lone watchman kept an eye on the place. There were no other tourists other than my girlfriend and I. If I recall correctly, this was a community built by the "Mochi" people, long before the Incas came to be.
There's so much history not easily explained. Stone tools have been found more than a million years old, I'm reading. Dunno. There's a lot for curious people to wonder about, like this place you're documenting. Nice photo details.
The million years old stone tools seems believable to me. Humans or human-ish people have been here for millions of years.
Could this be like bleachers for watching boat races or water sports?
Perhaps it was a multipurpose location for oratory and sports... Thank you for sharing with us Brien & Cheers from Seattle!
As I understand it, Lake Titicaca was a sacred lake, at least to the Peruvians. There was a ceremony performed there, of putting (dropping by boat?) pure gold statuettes of the gods into the lake as a purification and blessing ceremony (water holds frequencies). That small central curved seating area seems to have a libation table in front of it. Perhaps this was a public ceremony space to assure the perfect conditions for their crops and lifestyle. This ritual could have predated the Inca people but carried on in some form in their time.... Just a thought.
The bottom looks like it was ground in a bit from wave action. From the lake or from when it was at sea level when it was a inland sea? It would be interesting to dig up some of that soil below it.
Hey boss, long time admirer of your research. I've always been fascinated by ancient megalithic sites, and would really have liked to see this from above. You didn't get any complete aerial shots that allow us to see the whole immediate area from above. I think you might be surprised when you study many of these giant formations with a birds eye view. This looks exactly like symbols in Egyptian glyphs and wall paintings I've seen. I believe it could be some sort of elaborate sacrifice/offering alter, used in ancient rituals. The shape of it is obviously important. For more ways than first realized. Gotta see these places someday. Thanx.
Great video and beautiful place, the site looks as though it needs a bloody good clean up though, there is rubbish all over the place 😢
Creo que el lago, en otra epoca cubria hasta los escalones.
Hi brien I've never seen this. Thank you once again. All the best from GRIMSBY U.K
Have those fields been surveyed or inspected at all ?
I was going to make a comment about that. Wonder what all those farmers have found over the years while plowing.
boggles the mind what could be laying just under the surface@@billmitchell9501
Interesting observation. At 09:52 there appears to be a well worn statue of a large cat lying down. Like a jaguar. The head is on the left. Carved out of the stone. There is a groove around its hindquarters near the stairs.
Very good observation. I had wondered why the stairs curve round this. If all the material in the slope is tufa, then (probably) there would be no reason for this bulge in it to exist unless it had been deliberately sculpted to form an organic shape, which could indeed be a large lying cat.
Fascinating. The curved staircase to the left seem to encircle a stone relief that looks as if it has been ruined? Maybe the lake was larger previously and the steps led into the water?
You're awesome!!! I watch a lot of your videos
that lake never ceases to amaze me
The beeping in your video had me looking around to see who was playing with car keys!
Shout out from London mate,,love the content,,tge curve that people say is a podium looks like a seat and table area to me
Acoustic technology and placement .... just like the Mars complex looking out at a memorial , almost the same design , facing bodies of water or it used to have water, until a crossing of Nibiru took out it's atmosphere,so that's matching prints across the globe and now we can add near earth heavenly bodies, same tool marks and advanced megalithic infrastructure building that is a face on Mars of one named Alalu
If the water was higher: couldn't this just be a place to witness part of a boat race or a boat parade / annual water ceremony?
If the lake was larger then clearly you can get onto a raft or vessel to be transported across the lake. The centre landing point indicates high status platform & an offering table. People could wave off any party on what ever journey they where on. Transportation would be limited in numbers . It should then link to other sites. We constantly under estimate the people who went before us. Is this a pilgrimage to their gods. It certainly is not a plain docking station. If it links to other places do they provide other clues or continuity in design. Or is this the only place on the lake with this rock composition formation. Lots of questions really.
Brien I'm sure you know that the microwave beeping was going off while narrating. Distracting. I love your work, big fan for years.
That goodness you said that I was looking all over my house for the source of the beep.😁
Very interesting both what it was used for and who built it.
Why is there always so much trash at these sites? Trash is everywhere! Peru, Egypt, etc. What is wrong with people!!!!
Sounds like Brien needs to get hid food of the microwabe 🤔 great video though
Volcanic material is extremely eroded, & it would seam that some Geologists could figure out when it was carved? Reminds me of the Megolithic Sites in India, where the whole Structure is carved right into the Mountain. One can speculate, that there is a beehive of tunnels & chambers, still hidden in this Monolith. Also it might have much more steps, & entrances 20 to 30 feet still under the farmers fields?
We don't know which civilization did that construction, but we do know which civilization are throwing trash there...😢
Very interesting site. Like a gathering place of sorts. Quite a undertaking
Great video.
I IMAGINE....That it's a Stadia from which to host and view a Tribal Event. The center section is for Royalty. The semi-circle is for the Royal Banquet and/or the Chief could also stand on to announce the commencement and winners of the event. The long bench just below it is the winner's podium (which must not be higher than Royalty), which I suggest could accommodate approximately six people. The event itself may have been a village challenge, with the contestants having to make their way across the river to retrieve and return an item of significance. Easter Island had a similar tribal challenge.
The amphitheater style terraced seating with the central round platform and the two short bent staircases descending from the middle section are not only functional elements for the purpose of seating for mass gatherings. I am struck by the impression that this whole section is a huge BIRD EFFIGY, just look at the drone footage around the 8:20 timestamp. The middle round part and slight irregularity to the left of it make up the head/body, the long straight, terraced portions on either side are wings, and the two short bent flights of stairs coming down from the middle are bird legs. It is very similar in configuration to the common representation in ancient Egyptian iconography of the falcon/hawk with extended wings (the kind usually interpreted as being a symbol/form of Isis) or the winged sun disk with two uraeus cobras sprouting from the disk (as seen over many temple entrances and very widespread in their visual art). The way the rows of feathers are arranged in parallel rows is quite strikingly similar to the contrasting parallel bands of light/shadow on the terraced seating. Was this lighting even perhaps a deliberate design feature, as we see employed at other megalithic sites in this region and around the world? Its worth a good long think. Also, it faces Lake Titicaca, which apparently may be named in connection with two sacred birds called "Titi" and "Caca" which are attested in the surviving mythologies of some Polynesian cultures which were likely global seafarers in various ancient times and likely visited this region (this is just a random detail that I gleaned from Freddy Silva's film about sunken continents, the flood, etc, which I can't remember the name of currently.) So if that is an accurate piece of info, there's another point for why they put a huge bird effigy that doubles as seating for ritual that looks upon this particular lake.
And the arch of stairs to the far left encloses some stuff that was almost definitely recognizable carved sculpture in the distant past and has just weathered beyond recognizability (there are also some neat examples of similarly degraded megalithic art in the same Freddy Silva film I mention above)
The bird effigy observation is pretty cool. Thanks for pointing it out.
Gracias por tu trabajo Brian, si hubiera una forma de escuchar tus vídeos en español.
it's the old boat docks. the lake has moved.
Timestamp 3:42. Toolmark grooves left of the stairs suggest a high level of technology. Potentially a power tool was involved. 😊
Very interesting looks like it was looking out to a lake but please film the surrounding area it gives a better idea of what’s going on
interesting ..... a view from above of the whole site would have been much appreciated
My ultra-logical engineer’s brain makes me think this structure was designed for spectating something happening on, or in, the lake itself. Perhaps some kind of mock battle as the Romans had in the Colosseum, or maybe to welcome some visitors from the lake, as the legend of Vercocha describes (though much older)? I also imagine the acoustic properties of the “VIP” center portion allow the speaker to be heard far out into the lake as sound travels much farther over water than it does land. 🤔
Amazing place 👏🙌👍😀❤️
Great work again, Brian thank you again and again and again when will people wake up?
This is great Brien , Thank You :) QC
Thank you for your work! I think the system looks like it would be used for “maritime” purposes! Aquaculture or with higher water levels a fishing port and market as an option.
Get the cave entrance cleaned out and check it out
I see it as a ceremonial place of power. I can visualize the elites (homo carpensis) with their festive robes lined up on either side.
The orator stands in the semicircle
speaking to the natives that have gathered for the feast.
Like the Pope at the Vatican addressing the public. This is a definable place of power and magic, especially to be able to see the other sacred sites.
That is a big deal in the world of shamanic intentions.
THAT looks like an ancient water park full of waterfalls and water features.
About 3-8 inches of water would evenly run down across the smooth surface providing cool relief for hundreds of people lucky enough to find a seat on the multiple rows of benches.
People could walk the shallow stairs up and around the main waterfall, or meander around the various wading areas.
It would have looked beautiful and sounded amazing with all of water cascading down.
It even looks like the large curved area has a central stone placed above with two carved scoops marks to either side below it to divert and manipulate the flow of water into an artistic surface pattern.
Great place
Thanks!
Una hermosa tribuna, un lugar enigmático.
I wonder about the area within the circle of stairs because it is framed in some carving itself which intimates that it meant something and not just a rough area to be bypassed. A closer inspection , climbing up on it and looking , could reveal something . As rough as the surfaces are there , I wonder if the entire place was plastered at some point to a smooth finish but time has ruined it . Back to the circle of stairs @9:50 you can see three obvious indentations with one in the center and it does not look natural , at least from the image anyway . Thanks for the share Brien . :O)
I was struck by a similar thought during a stream of strong impressions that were enabled primarily by the amazing quality of this video and how it captured the site better than any documentary footage of this location that I've ever seen. It provides such an extensive, thorough site coverage, from all the striking visual perspectives, doesn't rush any of it, and highlights small details and as well as the larger views of the site in totality or near totality. I felt that I was able to truly "take in" this place, perhaps better even than visiting in person.
The drone shots from a higher overall perspective really gave me some ideas that I haven't heard expressed elsewhere.
The main long "bleacher/amphitheatre style" seating area, with the rounded platform in the center, especially when sunlit as we see here, is decorated with the light, different features with strong geometric outlines are either highlighted with sun or shadowed dramatically to create striking patterns and contrast, a technique exhibited at other megalithic sites in the Americas (best known example is probably the big pyramid at Tenoctitlan, the wavy serpent body becoming visible descending the staircases and comnecting to the sculpted serpent head features at the base of each side, when the perfect shadowing effect is produced on the equinox every year) and employed with mind boggling skill and precision by mysterious ancient megalith building cultures in many parts of the world. This, 'amphitheater seating' strikes me as being almost an effigy mound type of construction, as it resembles a hawk or some other similar bird. The straight seating sections are the wings with the feather layers painted with the light and shadow, and notice that they are actually at ascending height as they extend away from the center round podium area (the head/body of the bird) and are actually higher up at the very ends than the podium seating without any practical need to be higher since there are no visual obstructions. Why would these seats be higher than the central podium seating if that was meant to be a place for reserved for the most honored attendees, nobles/rulers or something. I posit that this is a stylistic choice to depict the bird effigy as if in active flight. Then the weird clincher is that if you look right below the central podium (bird body) there are two short staircases, one from each side, descending a short distance but both with a significant bend at the mide (again no obvious practical reason to go to the trouble of doing the bend rather than a straight run of stairs), and both bend in the same direction where one would expect them to be mirrored across the centerline like the straight seating "in the wings" (pardon the pun - these days one might even consider that this was the very linguistic origin of that peculiar turn of phrase - honestly I wouldnt even be suprised at this point with how things have been going with the constant switching of paradigms that we increasingly live in), if only rules of symmetry were being considered to generate these geometric features. I think those bent staircases, bent in the same direction, look quite a bit like skinny, crooked bird legs hanging below a hawk in flight. Also, given that middle podium would be the birds body/head, its circularity does also give impressions of the common ancient Egyptian symbol of the winged sun disk, oftentimes portrayed with two uraeus cobras extending from the central radiant sun disk in a way that gives impressions of those bent staircases.
That said, the area that the previous commenter remarked on, the area surrounded by the arch of stairs with the three-ish, kind-of-rounded irregular projections within the boundary, does indeed look to me that it could have been a beautifully carved structure that is weathered and degraded to the point of being barely even noticed (compare to the Carpathian Sphinx). It gives me the impression that it was once a huge face.
i wouldn't have been able to walk by all that litter without picking some up man. erm, looks like an observation area for a ruling class maybe, based on the view of the lake? or perhaps somewhere the ruling class would sit to address their assembled subjects. the central seating area looks suspiciously throne-like, and the acoustics would lend themselves to it being somewhere an orator or leader would stand/sit to speak. mosques, for example, have niches in the wall where the imam stands that project his voice so this could be similar. i don't but that it's an arena necessarily but it could be. your point about it probably not being made with hand tools is odd, i mean what other kind of tools would've been used? projects like this would take decades to complete, and this is on the less sophisticated level compared to, say, petra's rock-hewn temples
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It looks like it was cut fresh, like it was still hot when they cut and carved this site.
Thank you. Never knew about this site
09:54 Striking symmetry and clearly visible carving of the rock formation; with the rings around the two outer remains of something, and in the center the ditch around something. The steps and rows of seats appear to me to be of more recent construction, are much less eroded.
Could the sea level of been higher at one time and those steps were right at the water edge , like a harbour ?
Didn't the lake used to come up to this area? I mean a REALLY long time ago?
Seating for viewing the king washing the gold off in lake titicaca? Or seating for the king and officials and priests with the regular people sitting on the ground below? Where was the lake shore when this was occupied?
9:50 the high rock in the center seems to be an alter
I think it's a sacrificial alter to their God or God's, which resided in the lake(possibly manifested as a great serpent or other nightmare). This altar is different and positioned low to the ground, which tells me this "God" didn't descend from the skies like in other parts of the world at this time. But it crawled or slithered out of the lake itself.
The virgin or child would be presented on the slab in the semicircle, and the alcove cut out of the rock. The high priest and people of the highest social standing would seat themselves on all the cut-out bleacher like seating closest to the altar near ground level. (So they could be graced with the privilege of being closest to their god. The lower class did not get seats but filled the surrounding areas and hillside around the bleachers. All these "God's" are the reason all of these pyramids and such were constructed during this megalithic period, I believe. They are the same things presenting themselves now as aliens in our skys. They used to run this world, and our civilization. Until God intervened and wiped everyone and everything off the face of the planet. ALMOST.
This is amazing. Thanks for showing this. Is it a
It's so sad that people just throw their garbage on the ground though. It's easy enough to bring a bag.
The lake water must have come up to this site long ago. The diagonal lines make interesting diamond shapes one with that lone stone sitting in the middle of it. Curious place.
Great info. But huge disappointment that you did not give us a slow panorama of the area that the stadium would have been viewing.
I agree. It would have been nice to turn round and get a view of the lake that the audience would have viewed. It would also help if you would explain what in the distance over the lake that we are looking at. Thanks Brien for your very interesting videos.
Very interesting....enjoyed the clip. You know , I was disappointed to see discarded liter on the ground, mainly it looks like sandwich boxes.. To me I regard littering at a site such as this beside a water body to be disrespectful.. insensitive and lazy
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Well worn steps leading to a terrace of seating with a central semi circular seat. Overlooking Titikaka which could have lapped against the terrace and could have been the focus of some kind of boat event or even sacrifice rituals conducted in the centre.
So filmed in 2018. What else can you now tell us? Sight from above and braving the cave would give a little more light on the sight. Thank you. Kia ora
It looks very cerimonial. Like an occult ritual structure. Like rows of important people sit along the platforms and the most important people would sit around the inner circle. The plaform at the front looks like the perfect size to sacrifice someone on.
I recently learned an interesting fact about tuff.
After a volacono erupts, the ash forms a soft layer on top of the soil, but when it rains, or the ash gets wet, it turns into hard tuff. This effect has been observed in modern times after volcanic eruptions. So these steps might have been cut out of the soft ash and then hardened by rain.
I did some further research on this place. Its name and location are "INKA QAMAÑA (El descanso del inca), Yunguyo, Perú". Also known as “The Rest of the Inca”. The geographical coordinates are, 16°15'32.90"S, 69°10'17.72"W.