Ive worked with marble & granite for over 25 years. There is absolutely no way that was done with primitive chisels. Even with todays technology and tools, this is incredibly hard to carve out. To get the inside corners so precise is almost impossible. Whatever it was that they used, it was definitely powered by something other than muscle, granite is way to tough to chisel like that. They must of had some power source which was at least equivalent to electricity, and used diamond tipped tools or something even tougher. Great vid, Glad i found this channel- been binging on your vids for a couple of days now. Thanks for the great vids that you produce, i feel as if im there on location. No other channel gives that experience.
you'd be surprised as what can be done if the mason knew what they were doing with the tools they are use to working with for their whole lives on a daily basis on the same material
I have NEVER seen the arched room like this ever in the million Egyptian videos I have watched...then the box...best new video on the entire internet Ben. 🌟. Also the video walk through was like I was there. Much respect 🙏. Thanks
Came to say the same thing. This is so important and should be well studied and explored. Sadly, it takes so much time and effort to explore these ancient sites and that requires so much money nowadays. I only hope they explore this site and most importantly the box more in my lifetime?
Ben is not the only one nor is he the first one, there is a Russian alternative history group called LAI they do proper research and use high end equipment and they get to newly opened locations before anyone else. But they speak russian, so no one knows about them. Stuff they notice and talk about is incredible.
Having worked in the granite industry for years I can tell you that even with a modern cnc machine it would be difficult to replicate this in particular the radius in corners are virtually impossible with all but the most specialized equipment, and even today it would usually be much larger radius as the tools need to be bigger so they don't break when cutting. water jet cutting will give a very straight cut but how that is hollowed out is just remarkable. a water jet cuts all the way through. a cnc uses different shaped end cutters to achieve different profiles but quite how this was achieved without modern equipment is beyond me it is very apparent that whoever made this had a level of skill equal if not surpassing our own.
@@organutansphinx9614 only the bottom edge. But everything else inside and out is all square, level, plumb, and true which actually makes the inside of the box even more difficult. It's like they already knew the exact slant of the chamber floor before building the box and moving it in
@@Surgeeon This is a natural process that takes thousands of years deep within the earth. Imagine thinking you can melt rock then mold it and get the same the rock back LOLOLOL WE WUZ KANGZ
As an ex- aerospace engineer and builder of several houses, I have worked in many materials and with many advanced machine tools. The box with the half round arcitrave got me subscribing to your channel. The unpolished sections made with multiple facets tells me everything. These were made by serious machine tools, not hand tools without any doubt. The big elephant in the room is what happened to them ? and why can't we have TV like this instead of the brain numbing crap they serve up ?
Agree. I can see moving big objects. Technics for that isn't hard to figure out and / or apply. Working the stone is different. I would expect them to find bits of diamonds if I had to guess.
I honestly believe they had extra terrestrial help. The fact that we've never found a single nut/ bolt, scrap of physical evidence of machinery - I'd suggest that when they left , they took it all with them - or maybe went and dumped it in the deepest ocean. I'd suggest they had advanced laser type machines, relying some kind of concentrated energy - which they probably had. Just a thought.
@@paulkerr782 It's really not helpful to say aliens did it. These guys are doing a lot of work on this and are trying to be taken seriously by the mainstream archeological community and the leaders of antiquities and research institutions.
I do, I watched a guy use resonance to cut granite with a piece of copper tube and with a copper angle iron. It took a few hours to go an 2 inches but his setup was pretty basic. The copper tube created a cylinder hole with a perfect granite plug and granite wedge.
I was reading Petrie's work " the pyramids and temples of Gizeh" today in the morning and I thought to myself " I wonder if uncharted X will post a new video today" and here it is, thanks! XD
The box is uncanny. The room around is unbelievable too. How does one build this kind of curved sealing in granitic blocks ? The only work know to me, surpassing this are the Barabar caves. A french team made 3D scans of them and precision analysis, even bringing a veteran stone mason on site. Those underground finds are just mind boggling. Thank you so much for sharing.
Americans are ridiculous... They want us to replicate an work that us made by people that dedicate all is life to work stone. They cannot understand that life was very different in ancient egypt, and cant understand that they were very advanced in this type of work. Ridicolous...
Such a great video! You're a very rational skeptic. I'm a geologist so I know a granite and a limestone when I see one and it's no doubt those are what I see. Here's my 2 cents. A bit long winded but there is a lot to cover and I might as well give it some effort seeing as you've given a lot of that yourself in making this content. The granite stone you show looks like an alkali-feldspar rich plutonic felsic igneous rock. The dominant mineral by far is the reddish orange alkali feldspar and the minor components are the white (quartz & plagioclase) and dark (biotite & amphibole) minerals. Quartz is transparent and plagioclase is more opaque. If you saw more quartz relative to plagioclase then this would be an alkali-feldspar granite. If you found more plagioclase relative to quartz then this would be an alkali-feldspar syenite. It has a porphyritic texture meaning the feldspar crystals are larger than the crystals of the other minerals. Every magma chamber has a different chemical composition because the specific part of the crust that is being heated and melted has its own rock composition and formational history. Therefore it is possible to do a chemical element analysis of the carved stone and match it to the host quarry stone. This is what geochemists would do. Veining appears minor, at least from the footage you showed. Veins are 3D fracture planes created during deformation events after the rock has been formed. The voids are then filled by superheated mineral fluids (generally silica/quartz). These veins represent geotechnical planes of failure for mining engineers. So for this precise engineering work the block was clearly chosen very carefully by skilled labour who knew a thing or two about rock mechanics. To the point of geopolymers: Granite/syenite is the solidified (crystallised) form of magma chambers deep below the surface, made of continental crust melts in this case. The large crystals are created because the minerals have lots of time to grow due to the slow cooling inside the magma chamber. So the minerals have time to crystallise into distinct, large crystals of feldspar, quartz, plagioclase etc. Under a microscope you would be able to see the sequence of crystallisation (the order in which the minerals crystallised). This cooling takes many many years, thousands of years even. The extrusive forms of granite and syenite are called rhyolite and trachyte respectively. These rocks are the same chemical composition as the magma chamber but physically they appear different. They form by the rapid cooling of the magma as it hits the fridge-like temperatures of the atmosphere, going from its liquid phase above 700°C down to 25°C in an instant. It's like a process of flash freezing. The minerals inside the extruding magma have hardly any time to grow before they are cooled below their individual solidus temperatures, where they turn solid. The cooled rock is therefore very fine grained so can be very difficult to distinguish from another fine grained rock and would require a microscope to see the crystals. Felsic rocks like granite and syenite hold more volatile gases like CO2 and are also very brittle when cooled so rapidly so they tend to erupt more explosively than the slushy soft basaltic lavas of mafic magma chambers like in Hawaii. What I'm trying to say is that melting the granite and pouring it in a mold would be very hard. Moreover, the rapid cooling time (even if you waited years at a time) would only produce very fine-grained stones. I also don't see any cemented kind of stones in your footage. Those stones are quite clearly crystalline igneous rocks. As for the limestone, the carbonate sedimentary rock itself is essentially a fossil conglomerate made up of compressed and crushed up shells of dead marine organisms. You'll find large fossils preserved in a cement of smaller fossil fragments which are themselves surrounded by even smaller fossils. The more you zoom in the more fossils you'll find. Again, if you somehow managed to melt limestone and pour it into molds the stone would have zero resemblance to the natural version.
Thank You for explaining this in such a great detail! geopolymers: as I remember, Davidovits used grinded minerals (with pounding stones) and not melted. I saw a video of him recreating poured limestone. (not sure about granite) The proof of his theory, that every stone that solidifies has a magnetic orientation - so if they were poured in situ - every block should be oriented the same, whilst if they are quarried then put into place those orientations would be random. He made the measurements and states the blocks have the same orientation.
Yeah heating limestone might not melt it, but rather burn it and you'll lose a lot of it's weight as CO2 gas. Limestone is just calcium carbonate, CaCO3, so heating would break that up and create CO2 gas and calcium oxide (good old industrial lime). Limestone doesn't have iron, or the magnetic ions of iron so is not magnetic. When Mg is chemically added in nature it becomes hard dolomite. Fe can substitute for the Mg but it's still hard dolomite, not limestone anymore. The Fe dolomite might be weakly magnetic but it takes a lot of specifically magnetic Fe ions to become noticeable. Usually, if dolomite is magnetic it means the rock sequence has separate, fine layers within it specifically composed of high Fe concentrations, generally chemical sedimentary marine deposits called ironstones. The solidification of rocks doesn't mean they get magnetised automatically. Magnetic iron needs to be part of the melt rock composition in order to freeze their magnetic alignment when they turn solid (called the Currie Temperature). And the iron needs to be concentrated to create noticeable magnetic fields that can be measured. A limestone isn't usually magnetic unless it is interlayered with ironstone. Granite can only be magnetic if the Fe mafic minerals are high in concentration, and in the right ion ratio, to form magnetic minerals like magnetite or pyrrhotite. Iron rocks need to have the magnetic Fe ions to be magnetic. I'm not a specialist in geochemistry or geophysics to speak deeply about the process of measuring poorly magnetic rocks for their magnetic orientations. Magnetic rocks have a magnetic field called a remanent magnetic field. It's the field that is frozen in when the rock was formed. However, a weak remanent field may not be strong enough to show up above the background magnetism of the Earth's current magnetic field. You'd need to be able to measure the 2 fields so a non-magnetic rock like limestone would be very difficult to measure separately. If the Earth's magnetic field is measured instead of the remanent field in the blocks then of course they will all seem to have the same orientation. So you can use powdered limestone to make new blocks I suppose. But the fossils will be truly microscopic because those are the only sizes that survived the crushing and milling machines that made the powder. The process doesn't create new fossils, it just destroys fossils that are too large and preserves fossils that are small enough to survive the process. To preserve larger chunks you'd probably need a fine-grained cement material to cement the chunks of limestone together. If you find visible fossils and no signs or contacts with cement material it's probably not man-made.
As someone who has worked with manufacturing granite and marble countertops/vanities, in a fairly decent sized fabrication shop, the uniform precision of the beveled edge on the outer lip is extremely difficult to perfect even by modern standards. Never mind the more intricate precision details of a 90° angle on the Y-axis. Truly outstanding…
As a stone worker and all things stone fabricstor for the past 20 years, I can say that in my company, we put beveled edges or "eased" edges on stone to prevent them from chipping and damage. Natural stone is most fragile when it comes to accidental damage. With that being said, as a professional Mason, this box was not made with copper chizles and hammers. No. Way. By the way, granite is one of a kind. Melting it down is impossible, as you would not get the same crystal structure anymore, which would just turn it into crumbly lava like rock.
Well said ... besides the material itself, the cooling speed and method would be critical - each stone...under any logical or reasoned criteria- Its utterly ridiculous that they were “poured” ...as some high financed, farce for documentary show ...
@@diegocarranza587 we could replicate it, but it would not be out of one solid block. It would have to be several blocks fit to size glued together. Yes. I said glued. A lot of your daily stone countertop installation includes "seams" which are usually glued together by a resin or a 2 part epoxy compound. Because the stone slabs are smaller than some dimensions of the projects, "seams" is an artistic choke point in the countertop fabrication process. IT is imperative to make the two different pieces of stone as smooth as possible across the seam and as level as possible, because people pay money for that shit. Nobody likes imperfect stone! Some particular projects can involve sandwiching different slabs of stone to make more girthier granite or quartz monuments or tomb stones. The sandwich ingredients process involves gluing the stone like a sandwich, them shaping it. It all involves highly concentrated epoxy or some sort of plastic compound to bond. Thats the only way I see this box being made. We do not have the technology to carve that out of one giant rock and shape everything so precisely. Our most advanced hand held tools are crude and not as efficient to tackle particularly tight corners and leaving everything clean. Our diamond technology is based on a set of grit levels which is really annoying and time consuming. This technology seems to have utilized a "one size fits all" approach. So the answer to your question is no. We can't replicate this today. Especially out of Rose granite of all things for fucks sake! That material is an 7/10 on the stone density scale and its a freaking Granite! Thats insane shit to work with of all things!
@@toppradd youre right to point out the space its resting. As that would be an indicator that it would have to be carved on sight. So questions: 1. Where is the removed rubble from the giant square hole in the box? 2. It would be impossible to get the box down here through the shafts that were already constructed, it would have to be carved in place or be carved and placed there in the middle of the construction phase. 3. If carved after construction phase, what tools did they use? CNC machine? Doesn't look like it. It would have to be hand tools.
The way you film, and your camera or something, the editing combined with the commentary, I've never seen such great work, and the feeling of being there. Like others have said, I've never seen anything like this on TH-cam or TV before, it's really cool. I'm glad I found this channel!
I work in design and drafting for aerospace products. I've read about this box before and it blew my mind. If we were to make something like this today, with modern CNC machines, it would be quite difficult and VERY expensive, and I think we'd have to build some specialized tools to do it. Keeping the features you mentioned to such tight tolerances would not be resultant to the manufacturing process. Meaning, unless we intentionally wanted them to be that tight, they would not be. That means that those who made this were so far advanced of us that this was just easy for them (which is mind blowing for obvious reasons). OR, at the very least they were as good as we are now, in 2021, and intended for those features to be that perfect. If that's the case, we have to ask why? Just to show off? I call BS. Most people would not even notice how perfectly it is made unless you pointed it out, and even then, most would not find it impressive because they don't understand how hard it is to do. No, I think think these features had a functional purpose, an it certainly wasn't to house a dead body. So what was it for? It's crazy how much we don't know about our own past.
Absolutely. Especially if one considers the the precision on the inside of the box is extremely higher than on the outside. Laser tools showed precision down to microns on inner walls.
Excellent point!!! Modern tolerance in building is +/- 2.5km Engineering tolerances are within the micron range. There is no reason to take time to make these boxes within tolerances that would exceed modern engineering tolerances. Unless you have tools so accurate that that's just how it is. There are possible set ups with jigs that would enable such accuracy though. Even with hand tools.
I don't know about anyone else, but the geopolymer theorists are driving me nuts. I've been saying that the geological properties of granite just don't work like that for quite a while, not to mention all the obvious evidence from quarry to finished product virtually littering Egypt. Other places, perhaps there's a case, but in Egypt? Not a chance. Melt down some granite and see what it looks like, you won't end up with granite when you're done.
As a geopolymer camp person I don't think anybody credible is disputing the incredible granite carving work. But the common building stones have been conclusively shown at both Egypt and at locations like Puma Puncu that under electron spectrography have straw in the samples of the middle of the blocks, and the spectrographic analysis shows the constituents of concrete cannot be denied. I think this makes a lot of practical sense. Save your skilled stone masons for the Granite work, and the common blocks nobody cares about go ahead and pour via geopolymer techniques. I think a balanced position can be taken. th-cam.com/video/rf9qK9QTlq0/w-d-xo.html - start at 35 minutes to see the Scanning Electron Microscope results of the rock samples.
@@KittyBoom360 Oh, granite can be replicated, it's just not feasible to do so. Those separate minerals have to be at just the perfect temperature for one to crystallize and form while the rest are still molten, then slowly cooled until the next mineral crystallizes and/or solidifies. It would take centuries or more for all that to happen consistently enough to make a granite conglomeration that would be recognizable as a granite. Heat them all up together and then let them cool within a timeframe that would be usable to a human and all you're going to get is volcanic glass. It's not magic or fairy dust, it's just geology...we know the processes involved and unfortunately it requires some level of understanding in the subject before it becomes obvious.
When ever I see some intricately carved rock my mind blows . As a tradesman I understand the amount of labor that goes into making things perfect. The planning stage is critical. “Perfect” doesn’t happen by accident . You must be a skilled and trained craftsman to produce Any kind of consistency. Let alone thousands of craftsman working together to create GIANT architecture. In FRICKEN ROCK ! Rock is incredibly hard to work precisely in. And somehow “they” whoever the hell they were, have produced precision before precision was a thing . And it’s still standing thousands of years later . Whitworth discovered thou my ass !
I agree. The internal corners of that box blow me away. ;) I've worked as a craftsman and technician, including stone and precision machined components. You simply cannot - *cannot* - get that level of precision with hand tools. It is impossible.
In the case of the obelisk (same at Easter Island on the statues), it's 2 part process. 1. First rough cut is in the form of the 'scoop' marks by way of melting either melting or altering the molecular structure somehow to be able to carve or scoop it with ease. I would suggest a hi-tech tool that could change the molecular structure of any type of rock at various depths from fine 1-2mm up to a foot (I say roughly a foot as that is the width of the 'scoop' marks) that it would be in such a state of flux that it would be free to be shaped or removed. This is just to get the basic shape required. (a lot like cutting down a tree and running the log through the sawmill to cut the size you want, you then take that piece of wood and give it to a carpenter to lave into whatever you want to create) 2. Once the rough cut was achieved, then the second part of the process was to finish, either by cutting or laser type devices to give the final smooth finish to the object in question. (no I have no idea what tech on this part, maybe even the same device set on a different mode or setting for all I know) 3. Transportation. They would have to use some sort of levitation/anti-gravity type tool to transport (as crane type devices just wouldn't cut the mustard). And if they have devices that are capable of molecular state altering, then they are pretty much smart enough to have a levitational technology as well.
@@mrspikiespike4807 Did you ever see a laser on stone? It doesn't work. The laser heats up individual crystals in stone which vaporize and explode instantly. When cutting stone by laser the surface is very rough due to this microexplosions. In a homogenous crystalline structure like metal that does not occur and thus metal can be cut precisely by laser. That's why stone is cut by high-pressure water jets or by saws. The unfinished obelisk shows regular scooping marks from some kind of rotating grinding abrasion tools. Like an excavator machine. And they are all the same width, so definitely a machine tool. Forget Zahi Hawass with his slaves pounding diorite balls against the hard granite... :D)))
@@DilbertMuc I think you took that way to litraley in what I was attempting to get at. Neither you or I can point to their technology or the machines utilized, hence why I said "(no I have no idea what tech on this part, maybe even the same device set on a different mode or setting for all I know)". I used the term "Laser type device" more so as a definement in a technological device that is capable of pinpoint accuracy and uniformity in terms of cutting...hang on can't use that, you will take that literally as a blade of some type...slicing...dissecting ability. Another similar example would be the hyroglifics found on many obelisks, they have the 'Laser like appearance' or better still, an 'engraved type appearance'. More to the point was some sore of tech that finished it off perfectly smooth and straight. And yes, there is clear evidence that saws of some description was used on various assorted objects, there is no question on that. Many even leave telltale striation marks of such cuts and drills. As to your rotating grinding abrasion tools...not so sure, they are smooth as a baby's bum with no finite striation marks anywhere to be seen, unlike other objects. And please, don't forget, you are basing all this on your current level of knowledge of building techniques of the 21st century in which we as a society are unable to comprehend how they where built by todays standards...so you have to think outside the box a little. Like it or not, they were more advanced than us today, heck, we still don't even know what their purpose was for.
@@mrspikiespike4807 Actually, as we do not know how they cut the stones and more curiously how the hell they transported those huge monsters and moved them around in narrow tunnels (without using some anti-gravity machines... ;) we need to exclude possibilites to find out the real truth. So far we know that they certainly didn't use Zahi Hawass' Diorite pounding balls and some copper chisels. Same with the thousands of vases with 1mm thick stone walls. There can be made cuts with copper, but it leads to nowhere. Same with wooden cranes for 1400t blocks in Baalbeck or the unfinished Obelisk, which is impossible. Later, the Romans had a way to transport big blocks, but not 1400t monsters. How could the granite box be carved then? Not by laser, not by hand tools. That's what we know. I am not suggesting a computer controlled CNC machine, which would be the logical answer, but obviously impossible... or is it?
Just wanted to thank you directly for allowing those of us who really want to tour the real stuff and see what it’s like and try to fathom the true goings on but can’t make it to the sites. Thank you. It’s some of the best material anywhere to actually see what it’s like to be there.
What I don't understand is why no electron microscope scanning has not ever been done on these boxes to try and find some trace of the tools used to make them. Even after couple thousand years there would surely be some detectable metal embedded in those boxes especially if made of a copper alloy!
@@Bart-Did-it They used granite to cut and smooth granite! Its pretty simple after thye used much harder what to cut them out of the bedrock? Do you know the answer? NON OF YOU BIG MOUTHED IGNORNAT FOOLS DO! its dolerite1
@@Bart-Did-it True but I really believe that many of these artifacts are truly much older than we are being told. Especially the stone ones, they can't carbon date stone and from what I understand the other methods do not work either. Then there is the just massive size of the stones themselves and the accuracy in how they were cut.. Things just don't add up.
@@oldogre5999 trust me it was easy as PI or should I say cake it was all so very easy it just all took TIME and lots of hands and obviously supreme knowledge for the time . Most world experts believe that if the treasure of the knights Templar is found it’s will not just be gold diamonds and artefacts. The treasure will be a large library or! Just one big book with all the accumulative knowledge of mankind from about 5000 years ago till when the vault was sealed where ever it is . Knowledge is mankind’s greatest achievement the collection of knowledge for the future generations we are nothing without it just monkeys squatting in the mud .
The inside of these boxes are incredible. The fact that they made the outer so square and flat are incredible. But the inside angles where the walls meet or the bottom corners are nuts to try and think about how it was done.
Right, it amazes me so much too, how that can possibly be done...? The inner bottom corners, they are perfectly perpendicular, this is simply mind blowing how they could achieve that, I have no idea... Saws? The curiosity on that sucks me in, I need to take a breath :P
It’s amazing to think about. If an asteroid impact or pole shift shook the planet, sending tsunamis miles High, that circled the planet several times today, nothing would be left. Satellites would be the evidence of our past. If it happened 5,000 or 12,000 years ago perhaps, the only thing left would be the megalithic structures that were strong enough. Working with huge stone blocks isn’t really a thing anymore due to our lost methods and capitalism doesn’t really allow it, as it’s not cost effective; there’s no profit to me made. But back then they were heavily into it, and were damn good at it too. What id do to have a glimpse into our past.
It is incredible. But are inability to conceive of the unremitting labor and devastating ability of ancient artisans does not mean it was done by some since vanished laser technology. Please, I beg Ben to show us one stinking shred of advanced technology beyond the wood, copper, and leather the Egyptians had on hand. And no, leave out the dolemite river stones (aka "possible ball bearings). Those round stones have been demonstrated, in the lab, to be able to whack out a "lost obelisk" with a two year time frame, leaving behind similar marks. Please. Just give us one alleged high tech ancient tool. In all those passageways, surely, not one fragment of a some advanced tooling? Not even a chip or a splinter???
@@jeffreymcneal1507 The Egyptians didn't build the pyramids. The entire Giza site was already ancient and forgotten to the world when the Egyptians discovered it when they settled the region. So yeah, the Egyptians had nothing, as you say. But that's like me saying "I can't believe my cat is hungry today, because I went for a jog yesterday." It doesn't make any sense. Those two things are completely separate from each other, and one does not have any bearing on the other statement's truth.
There was french documentary done titled "BAM" which I believe was an acronym for "Before or Beyond Ancient Materials or megalith" I forget. However they take measurements of angles, of the flatness, hardness, and polish. They bring up some great thoughts and point out things one may not think of. Check it out, it's very informative,as well as mind blowing of the precision involved.
Microscopic photos should be taken for each measured segment along the length of the surface to determine of there is any changes in the surface. It would be incredible if they find little or lack of changes on the surface (due to wear of tools, inconsistent pressure of tools, etc., all possible reasons). With the accurate tools we have today, we have enough work to keep scientists busy for years to come.
@@georgekraus9357 Watch the documentary by a french team. Search B.A.M building ancient monuments... The do a lot of precision measuring, surface smoothness...
Gotta love the grave robber explanation for the empty King's Chamber, etc. They stole everything including the stars and hieroglyphs covering the walls and ceiling. Damned thorough.
???? You can make a mould out of ... Sand or dirt or clay - or any soft material - we do this today. The difficulty of precision comes from being precise in an incredibly hard material.
@@ProsonicStudiosLLC ??????????????? Nice try I was answering his question in relation to precision of the moulds. I was just making the point you can make moulds out of a soft material to be very precise. So you know sand or clay won't compress? I dont think you do. At any rate the whole idea of geopolymer is ridiculous. I think it's dumb - Like I said I was only responding to his point about the moulds being precise. That is the whole point of moulds after all is to obtain a shortcut to precision. But you are trying to get me on a different point that I never made. And you have no basis to make the claim you did anyway. Sand and clay and other such things used for metal moulds don't "flex" for obvious reasons.
@@zm5668 in order to execute precision you need to be able to measure precision, no matter what medium you work on. This is extremely difficult and has only been achieved in the modern era in the last 60 or 70 years at the earliest
@@StoutProper That is only partially true But when it comes to square angles and blocks. The dynastic Egyptians had that technology and would be able to make a mould. It is far more difficult to replicate that out of hard granite that a soft sand
I’m a machinist, and it’s a dream of mine to go in there with a set of calipers, micrometers and all my measuring tools. I would measure everything I could!!
Bring a surface plate or cast iron straight edge for scraping, and some high spot blue. Maybe your best big square too. I just haven't figured out how they got the inside corners square.
I’m a stone maçon and I can tell you getting these result in granite by hand without carbide chisel and diamond blade is virtually impossible. Line stone on the other hand would be doable.
To get the north / south alignment, all I can think of is if the roof was once open before the pyramid was build over top. Also the arched ceiling looks like a perfect radius which in itself is more complex than the box, imagine the difficulty in creating multiple ton radius blocks perfectly joined together. Just incredible!
Chances are, you won't need to give your life to find this stuff out. The biggest problem we've had was feeling superior to all civilizations who came before us, with the notion we keep adding knowledge and very little was lost. We think knowledge just piles on each successive culture, til one day we live like Star Trek. Including the idea vast amounts of knowledge can be swept away can give us the humility to at least ask the questions we need to ask. That's a big shift in our thinking, moving to another paradigm.
@@dougwedel9484 yeah, Ive always thought civilizations that long a ago wouldve had time to evolve further than we know, all that time they didn't event the wheel?.. who knows what they were using back then and where it ended up
@@dunno6442 I believe Egypt had chariots. A lot of the architecture we have today, was built off of their discoveries. I think a lot of history got lost, or erased, or changed, as civilizations fell
Makes me happy when I see people like you in the world. Logical, open minded and not only about money. It gives me hope! Great work and keep it up! 😀❤️
I have a Masters Degree in geology. There is NO way that box is made of powder or molten rock - the crystallinity of the rock is clearly genuine granite; it stems from slow cooling (thousands of years) happening far under ground at some pressure. If you melt granite and pour and let it cool under ambient pressure and temperature, you would get either glass (obsidian) or a very finegrained "volcanic" rock, rhyolite. Forget about powder and molten rock. Super interesting video, just like the other ones. 👍👍👍
Thank you. We dont need to speculate, a whole field of science already exists: geology. Geologists such as yourself can conclusively tell a natural rock from a poured block just like a Zoologist can tell a lion from a tiger. There is no debate and its not even that hard. Now try telling that to the " alien technology" crowd😅
@@lancehobbs8012 I would love for there to be concerted effort to index these materials... as they do with metals. The chemical composition of metals allows for them to be aged and regionally located. I think there would be tremendous value in creating that index because it appears that many of these sites a meshed together from different projects... the video touched on that towards the end of the video. The index would provide morr evidence of that reality. I'd also like to see a review on why some of the stones appear to be geopolymers after corr samples were taken... it found the 20ton upper layer stones contained microbubbles, human hair, and other irregularities that wouldnt exist in naturally created stone. However, that same structure had 80ton foundation stones where the extracted core samples proved to be naturally created stone.
It's 100% impossible for them to have "cast" that granite. It's already been proven via crystaline analysis. This channel just wants to push bs theories.
When looking at modern constructions, small alcoves (like the one halfway down the stairs where you came in at the start of the video) are usually added for utilities like air-conditioning controls and/or electric circuitry boxes/panels. Corridors surrounding a chamber are probably also utility corridors for adding whatever the builders needed that corridor for. See extra corridors in metro systems or utility tunnels underneath modern-day cities for access to electricity and gas services. When you have a chamber that contains a major utility that could need repairing or adding things, it's best you have corridors and pathways that give access to that chamber. Planning is what it's all about.
That's some great thought. The London underground seems to be riddled with what we call 'cubby holes' that were built for a purpose just where they needed it. Whatever explanation that anyone comes up with for that loop section - it sure seems like a waste of time to go to all that effort without any purpose that we know of.
Exactly. People's imaginations tend to fail when contemplating the enormous period of time that's elapsed since these structures and objects were made. Only stonework has survived thousands of years of the elements and human scavenging, there is almost no trace of any other materials that were used (not least metals). What we're looking at are the 'bare bones' of _machines._ How anyone can look at, for example, the inside of the GP or the pyramid complex at Teotihuacan and not recognise them as such is beyond me
BTW, if you've ever watched the movie _Forbidden Planet,_ the great machine complexes left by the long-dead _'Krell'_ always reminded me of the cylopean ruins here on Earth, I sometimes wonder if the writers were, consciously or not, inspired by them. That aspect of the film gave me the same sense of pathos I often feel when I see these fantastical ancient ruins and objects.
I fully agree with you: not a "geopolymer"! Taking a simple 10X jewelers loop magnifying glass and looking closely at granite shows the quartz, feldspar, mica and other mineral grains actually to be individual crystals that have all grown together, interlocking each face into and tightly up against all adjacent mineral faces. This is consistent both with (for example) quartz to quartz grains and quartz to feldspar, mica, and what other mineral crystals present in the specimen. Looking closely at this tight interlocking where (again for example) a quartz grain lies up against, say, a feldspar grain, very clearly shown the two minerals meeting and pushing against each other as their respective crystals WERE GROWING. This very tight kind of meeting between two different substances CAN NOT be accomplished by geopolymer. Whether ground to a powder or some more corse aggregate, when the slurry dries or cures solid (as in modern concrete), 10X magnification will show the individual components relatively tightly up against each other, but there will be no trace of the type of meeting between the grains that only occurs when such grains are crystalizing, and, as they do so begin pushing against neighbor grains...actually inter-locking. At higher magnification this is thoroughly proven as these mate-ing surfaces will exhibit the tiny give-and-take of growing crystals pushing up against each other with much much more pressure than simply liquidized particles can achieve.
Everyone who has some experience with precision machining instantly knows this is 100% impossible with hand held tools, including modern tools. You don't just get lucky on this kind of surface precision and paralell precision.
I'd personally like a model of this box, just to hand out: "Could you give me a price quote on making me one of these, please?" The "Oldest vases" with the millimeter wall single-piece stone construction are also "ok, you can't make me one for a million." ROBRENZ fighting to get this sort of precision on a surface place, etc ... not easy at all.
I was an aerospace machinist for 11 years. I ran very, very precise machines. You can maintain a couple thou tolerances fairly easily, even 5 ten thousandths of an inch. However, the longer the dimension, the more difficult these tolerances are to keep. Slight changes in temp even can change you dimensions. These boxes are unbelievable. I cannot wrap my head around it. Peace my friends
Well said. With experience in both machining and stonework, I can say with confidence this box and room are impossible to re-create in our modern time regardless of the budget. Whoever made these used technology that has never existed, not now, not ever. ?.
Mind boggling what technique has been used! But what boggles the mind even more why so many intelligent people fail to see whats in front of their eyes, and refuse to see how much there is to be learned from all these clues! Thank you for showing this to us all!
Here's the thing that boggles my mind. Imagine ANY tool... That tool will be used to create something more valuable/complex than the tool itself. Here, the tools (talking about rocks here) are so well made that they are beyond our comprehension. Which leads me to believe that the pyramids probably have usefulness that we have yet to discover. If pyramids do not have a purpose, it's the modern equivalent of constructing millions of huge cranes and piling them up to make 'modern art' or something... I know that a ton of people believe that the pyramids have more to them than meets the eye, but when you see what it took to make them, it's impossible that the result would be more primitive than the entire process of making them. It would run contrary to ANYTHING you can think of... We're not using jet engines to make paper sheets, we're not using processors to make tables... The current narrative is that they had the means to do something like that and they made something that is smaller (in terms of usefulness) than the sum of its parts... This doesn't add up.
@@SLRModShop yes, which points to the energy theory, if you can create unlimited amount of clean energy and transfer them through the pyramid then it'd be worth all the efforts, or as a communication device to gather or send information like the space telescope we create today. I mean of that kinda significance.
@@piercezhang8153 I still have no clue to this day. But most pyramids (and only the first ones are interesting as I think that the more recent ones are copycats and Egyptians didn't have a clue either) have many features that seem stupid at first glance leading me to believe that the purpose eludes us. Entrance always on the North side, why? Entrance always going down, then splitting and going up. Pointless stress reliefs in the so called king's chamber. Queen's chamber always perfectly aligned 90° from each side of the pyramid. Every entrance of any king's chamber is always in a corner... why?! Every temple they ever made has its door centered. But the room where they were putting a Pharaoh in has a door in the corner? So strange. Feels like blasphemy almost. My money is on sound/vibrations. The unfinished obelisk in Aswan looks like the rock was melted and scooped. As if they could make the matter vibrate to soften it up and then scoop it. Vibrations can also levitate things (we can do it with tiny things), maybe they knew how to levitate huge things. Which would answer MANY questions. So, let's say they discovered "vibrational levitation", and in combination with huge rocks, these were their tool. The fact that they've built the pyramid with that leads me to believe that pyramids could probably either harness or create even bigger amount of vibration. Why? I don't know, I told you, I'm still clueless :)
I keep watching this whole series through over and over. I’m so determined to come on a trip with you in the future Ben. Amazing work no matter how many times I watch. You’ll be remembered for your work for many years in the future, just like Petrie
to me the "gods" of Egypt were the ones who came before, stories of them passed down eventually became religion. These are the people with the skills to make these things
Yes I agree. Every culture around the world has stories about the time before. I bet there is much hidden beneath the sands which we are still unaware of.
@@scottyfox6376 I believe they got wiped out by some cataclysm, few remained to pass down stories and maybe be the gods who called themselves Ra etc . Didn't degrade just restarted. If we got hit by a cataclysm now and only a small amount of us remained , I for one wouldn't know how to make a computer chip we'd need to reinvent if those people with the knowledge died
Yeah, knowledge would be lost in one lifetime.New children would have no conception of such devices as they have never experienced them.Knowledge and accounts of such times would have to be written in stone to last for future reference. Proper analyses and open mind towards these structures is way to go.
You're right. Every culture has stories, legends of these 'Gods'. Atlantis, Lemura, Mu, Og, The Epic of Gilgamesh, The Mahabharata are just a few examples of 'Gods' that had not only the power of flight but a masterful understanding of the solar system and the universe. All dismissed by mainstream academia as stories or fables. 40 years ago the solar system was thought to be the only place that had planets, now we are finding them orbiting almost every star. Academia has a very arrogant and closed attitude and anyone who does not follow the narrative is dismissed and labelled a crackpot. Evidence of ancient high technology is all over Egypt and the rest of the world and historians just ignore it. Shame on you!
I remember a time when every subject could be hypothesized, speculated about, with ideas, opinions, and facts freely discussed in an academic search for the truth, and no fear of being censored because it wasn't "the official story". So far, you've picked a topic that's still OK to think about and speak about. Good luck, I hope it lasts, because it's a highly compelling mystery.
It seems quite likely the ancient people described construction methods in terms of their gods---what we see relating to their gods (statues, murals, etc.) may well be telling us how they made things.
Geopolymer therory always had this flaw - never really able to expain how the granite blocks could have shaped. As in many megalithic structures we see, it retained ita original striations and layering, a feat impossible when all are proposedly melted to become one consistent mixture. Thanks Ben for continuing doing this great work!
Isn't it odd that the principle of the arch seen here, wasn't used (or else no examples survived) in any above ground structures ? Mystery upon mystery upon mysteries abound everywhere. I've only discovered you in the last 6 months or so Uncharted X. Thank you for the gift of all this renewed awe. It's done an almost jaded soul great good.
As a mechanical engineer we use large granite slabs as precision flat reference surface plates. I believe there is a very relevant point to think about, that is the method of how these plates are made. The precision flat surface is created (or at least finished).......by hand. No machines, but just a second flat plate to wear in the work piece. Critically, the more you use the tool plate the flatter the tool becomes. In other words by rubbing two roughly flat objects together they both become flatter and flatter. I believe that is how the surface is finished with the sarcophagus. These precision flat surfaces are used today for creating other flat and straight components. Granite is the perfect material for this purpose as it is both stiff and very stable mechanically and thermally. I have a granite straightedge in my workshop used to setup other precision machine tools. - I would love to explain this more to you and perhaps show you the stone working techniques.
I also thought of a granite lapping plate made by hand. It's not difficult if you know what you're doing and have time on your hands. In this machine age people seem to forget how well things can be made by hand. I've seen lapping plates ground by hand that are so flat that when one is placed on the other they stick.
The flatness of those granite reference surfaces has always boggled my mind, specifically in how flat and smooth they are. But you cleared it up for me! Lol
Ben is so engaging when explaining the details and varied aspects involved when these areas were built. He is easy to understand and genuinely happy to share his discoveries. Thank you for increasing my knowledge of these ancient sites.
This is seriously what I am curious about. Thank you for sharing those footages and insights. This precision box is (one more? ) indeniable proof of some long forgotten highly technical society.
Wonderful video, and outstanding job getting the information you are providing out in a way that is accessible to almost anyone. I will definitely be checking out more of your videos ( this was my first), and I look forward to supporting your continued work and outreach. Please keep up the great work, and good luck on your future endeavors.
Great stuff. As a Chemist (though not a geochemist), I certainly agree about the nature of the granite. The crystal sizes within the rock are very much dependent on cooling extremely slowly underground. It could not be fabricated by humans at the surface in any reasonable time frame.
Granite is an igneous rock. The crystal size is an indication of cooling rates. Smaller the crystals faster the cooling. The crystals and relatively small.
Terrific, rock-solid video (pun intended!). As an engineer myself, I super appreciate the discipline, logic and rigor that goes in to this work - it's not easy! And it requires a deep personal restraint to focus on the right way to go through this. Bravo! Excellent work.
If you ever get back to look at the block that had the "over cut" you mentioned (~27:05), take a ruler and a plastic toothpick, or a machinist's caliper, and use the toothpick/depth-gauge to measure the depth of the cut from where it stops to where it is straight. From there you can plot the depth (y) along the cut length (x) and from that you can give a crude estimate of geometry of the tool (flat/circular/triangular), and possibly primary measurements (like tool radius or angles). I am not sure if they would allow you to use metallic tools, but plastic ones would not mar the stone. If they would allow you to use standard machinist depth gauges, then they you should be able to make very precise measurements. You might need to check to make sure that is allowed, but they allowed you to touch the stone, photograph it, and set things on it, so it is possible they would allow conventional measurement techniques. That said, do ask.
It's all about organizational politics. Pioneers get arrows in their backs. Nobody wants to be the fly in the ointment who says that their peers have been wrong all this time. Their status, and ultimately funding, would dry up.
I've learnt so much daily the last cpl of yrs about ancient civilisations and learning new things thanks to your channel..only difference is that your actually there videoing it..Cool stuff thanks mate...Ironically I live in Petrie North Brisbane!
Me too, that shot blew my mind. It would imply that the floor of the box and the two sides joined in that corner are all at perfect right angles, wouldn't it, unless the laser was tampered with. I was dying to see someone hold up a simple engineer's square to the corners of the box and show a perfect 90 degree angle.
@@Mutius82 - That right angle tool would've been good to check whether the external sides were all 90 degrees, which would mean the slope at the top was a feature, with a distinct, albeit unknown, purpose.
I believe it was an edit job, not actual footage In the commentary Ben said this is something that he wishes would be done there, and to illustrate that, he made a picture .
Agreed. I'd like to hear more discussion about this. It's humbling to see it after asking my machine shops so casually to chamfure all edges in a drawing for a part. Was it just as commonplace to "them" back then as it is to us? It is so fantastic to think about.
It's nice looking and safer to be around... as externally only! These boxes were certainly special to cast magnetised stones, baked inside the box so it wouldn't have bevels right. I still see it's the only explanation, that these were casts not for regular building blocks but for magnetised blocks of crystal, used for utility such as my Giza Fishery Hypothesis... I mean a progenitor was probably build pretty remarkable stuff. Nice would be great to see as VR clip so mentioned on mobile youtube but what's the deal with youtube desktop and Cosmos Elite VR for example?
There’s an ostrich egg that was found with the three pyramids carved on it. It came out of a tomb that was over 7000 years old. There’s a good possibility that these artifacts were not made by Egyptians but a civilization that was far older and more advanced than the Egyptians. If this box was made by hand sanding multiple people spent their entire adult life’s making it.
Craig Scott I was just looking around on the tube and read about a prehistoric site on a Island. The technology, calendar, architecture hieroglyphics, etv; looked very much like Aztec artifacts. Anyway its interesting, because many kinds of "dating" of the soils and artifacts have been done since the 1950s up to late '80s. Out of these- ,three groups of scientist published the report that this place dates to as far back as 350,000 years. It appears that even the archeologist community and experts fought to stop the publications of those findings because it throws a huge wrench in human/modern man theory. I think the pyramids are of alien construction., and possibly a service station to refuel their craft. A Ship Stop Oasis - Gas- N - Eat and far more advanced than the 350k dated find or Aztek.The find was under volcanic materials.
@@richardcoram1562 yes Richard very interesting. I think even modern archeologists now are doubting the dates that have been used by scientists since the 1800’s. The pyramids for me date back to before the end of the last ice age. 12000 years ago. Personally I don’t believe the Egyptians built them they don’t match up to structures with hieroglyphs from 3000 years ago. In fact none of the pyramids have any hieroglyphs in them. Some engineers now believe they were some kind of machines. Possibly power plants or hydrogen plants or even microwave plants? I think even the Egyptians now are doubting they built them.
Or and this is out there, the mystery/wonder can't be lost if it's not solved therefore lots more tourists and "experts" visiting, creating a nbeasy extra income stream for the tourism sector
The overcuts in hard stone should be enough evidence for any sane person to rethink what they know.. if the stone was shaped by meticulously cutting the stone over months by master craftsmen then why would they spend days worth of work overcutting into the stone
It's much easier if you think of building a precision form and then filling it with "liquid granite". The main problem is the "liquid granite" that we are only now developing with geopolymer science,
@@joeweatherstone4770 The granite used to create such absolultely perfect objects was not liquid. It was softened, molecularly using advanced technology involving hyper-intense vibration at the resonant frequency of the granite. That altered it in a manner that rendered it plasticine in nature, and in that state it could be pressed into a mold as one can press clay into a mold. It would not have been heated so prohibitive heat would not have been present.
Im a drywaller, i can do arch ways, but this is some far beyond advanced skill, the craftmanship makes me excited to be human. Its a big reminder of what we can do if we put our heart, soul and mind to creativity. I wish they documented thier work. I wonder if they use some sort of blue print
....some sort of blue print ??? Seriously ??? To realize such complicated structure, 3D or multi dimensional image. THEY did not just quory stone and cut in site withour a extremely acurate knoledge of architecture,math,material rezistance,astronomy and who knows many sciencies.
@ Wendell Check out the Broch at Carloway Isle of Lewis , Scotland. A drystone tower - double layer on the outside with several floors joined together with lintels . All dry stone.! Dates from Iron Age .( 100 BC - 100 A D )
@@PacificNorthwest360 “…the Vatican has…miles of bookshelves…” Nope. They wanted no record of such things. Christians burned or destroyed anything they could gets their hands on Anything that was evidence of the “primative’s” being superior or even civilized.
Hi Ben! Another great video. Thank you so much. Regarding the alignment of objects and structures to the cardinal points of the compass, I thought you might find this interesting... “The first researcher to attempt to document and measure human magnetoreception was Robin Baker, a lecturer at the University of Manchester. Baker had long wondered how ancient Polynesian sailors could navigate hundreds of miles across open ocean and consistently find their way back home. Celestial or solar navigation could work some of the time, but not always - clouds covered the sky for days, and rough seas could quickly throw a boat of course. Captain James Cook wrote about Tupaia, a high chief from Raiatea, near Tahiti, whom he took aboard his ship the Endeavour in 1769. Tupaia drew a detailed and accurate map that spanned more than twenty-five hundred miles, from the Marquesas to Fiji, and included 130 islands. For the next twenty months, the Endeavour sailed the South Pacific and beyond, and Tupaia could always point in the exact direction of his island home, regardless of the Endeavour’s location, the time of day, or the conditions at sea.” (taken from page 75 of ‘Deep’ by James Nestor)
A bit more on magnetoreception from the same book. This is so fascinating... “The Guugu Yimothirr, an Australian Aboriginal tribe, had a remarkable sense of direction that they incorporated into their language. Instead of using words meaning “right”, “left”, “front”, and “back” Guugu Yimithirr used the cardinal directions of north, south, east and west. If a Guugu Yimithirr tribesman wanted you to make room for him on a bed, he’d ask you to move a few feet west. Guugu Yimithirr didn’t bend backward, they bent northward, or southward, or eastward. The only way Guugu Yimithirr could communicate was by knowing their exact coordinates at all times, which was a hard thing to do at night or in an enclosed room. But it was second nature for them, as well as for a host of cultures throughout Indonesia, Mexico, Polynesia, and elsewhere, whose languages were also based on cardinal directions. In the 1990s, researchers from the Max Planck Institute for Psycholinguistics, in the Netherlands, placed a speaker of Tzeltal - a Mayan directional language spoken by about 370,000 people in southern Mexico - in a dark house and spun him around blindfolded. They then asked the Tzeltal speaker (who was unnamed in the study) to point north, south, east, and then west. He did this successfully, and without hesitation, twenty times in a row.”
It’s amazing that over 100 years ago he could accurately measure that box with just lit fire torches in that room! The work that some of these people did 100 years back is absolutely amazing!
There are granite statues made with equal or greater precision, and many, many more granite "boxes" ... many are much larger and made of even harder varieties of the stone.
That isn't proof of advanced tools. It's proof they had some method, with tools. How it worked we don't know. Filling in gaps with fantasy isn't scientific. The fact is, this box is well made. That it. Probably we show evidence for the age. But there is no evidence that shows some magical tool.
Thank you so much Ben, this box is astonishing, and thank you also for your comments on Geo-polymer and concrete, I totally am at one with your views. I hope a Certain Mr Nash watches this video. 👍👍👍
As a type of celebration or tribute to the skills of the mysterious craftsmen who made it ? Maybe they thought of it being too well crafted to be created by man because of it high level of accuracy and extreme difficulty of construction and decide to erect the pyramid to honour the skill of the craftsmen ? Or maybe they decided it must be made by higher beings and it needed a pyramid over it to mark it's place ?
@@redwoodcoast Once a man's mind is set he will ignore any facts or evidence that refutes his ideas and make things up to convince people he is right. I would suggest you need to watch the whole video again and listen carefully to Ben's explanations as to how it got where it is and how it was made, he also gives perfectly acceptable reasons for how it wasn't made but it seems like you didn't get that far into the video.
@@redwoodcoast bruh ... it’s GRANITE a single rock . You can’t cast granite .NOBODY disputes this, not mainstream scientist, not fringe theories just you apparently
@@Garage.Philosophy You did not define what you mean by "casting". So I will. It can mean either molding an object into existence by pouring a liquid into a mold, AND it can mean molding an object into existence by pressing a malleable substance into a mold, such as clay. So the real question isn't about making liquid granite but about making plasticine granite. You need to learn about an aspect of molecular science that is hidden from the public by reading my exposition on the subject. But be forewarned, it will disturb you in a significant way. ~Evidence of Molecular Bond Reversal… & Ancient Stone Softening Technology sciencetheory.wordpress.com/2019/08/19/evidence-of-molecular-bond-reversal-ancient-stone-softening-technology/ and this dovetails with it: sciencetheory.wordpress.com/2019/08/05/the-ark-of-god-its-deadly-device/
When I was a young girl I wanted to be an archaeologist, I let my mom and a teacher squash those dreams, I still continued to read about different cultures and findings, this video allows me to travel there and see things I would otherwise never get to see. I admire Petrie also. Thank you so much for this video.
@Yuck Foutube I am in my heart. I had to explain to someone the other day that called a Kokopelli a hieroglyph, the difference between a petroglyph and a hieroglyph. Thank you ! 💓
same (except I was a boy lol) Keep the dream alive!! This generation of archaeological devotee's that haven't had the cultural and economic climate to turn their passion into a paying life work, at least our passion for the past can be passed down to the next generation, where it may be much more conducive to actual research. Channels like this are inspiring thousands of kids to take an interest in reclaiming the lost knowledge or preserving these sites, and opening up more interest in the field
@@DeanBrah I agree, channels like this are a great community outlet for like minded people, how great would it be to get paid for doing something that you love.
I’ve always been fascinated with archeology.I also wanted to be an archeologist but my dream kind of got squashed too. I do it on a amateur level and would love to go and see these sights.Just to be there and absorb the spirituality of actually being there would be amazing. Being a very analytical type person I feel that my gift of having great insight would contribute many ideas to the findings on these sights.
@@riverbandit4159 I think people who are into archeology have a real connection to the past, we can feel it so to speak, like you said being at a site or touching something someone thousands of years ago made, it is this sense combined with analytical skills that would make this an ideal field for you to study, I hope that you get the chance to do it or experience it.
Is this because he banned tablighis? What about the light C and the dark rectangle at the bottom. Didn't the swimmer get to swim to the Hq? It was the cover for st magerets road didn't that help ? 😭
It is hard not to think that the focus of this underground structure is the box itself. Rather than some sort of functionality perhaps it is simply a showcase of the abilities of a distant ancient civilization. Like a time capsule meant for us to find and to ponder how was it possible to create such a work. It seems to clearly state "We had the technology". What better medium than granite to transmit this message spoken in the language of precision measurements and absolute beauty. JD
The crystals of different minerals in granite grow through and around others as they form at different temperatures as the magma is cooling over a long period of time, there's no way that could be done by casting. You'd need to slowly cool it over thousands of years under extreme pressure for it to crystallise. If you were to melt granite and cast it you'd end up with some glassy looking blocks and if you were to cast it from aggregates you wouldn't get the interlocking crystalline structures of the different minerals.
Lets assume they poured granite boxes into molds. This speaks of high technology. What is the mold made of to withstand this environment? How was it machined? How did they power all this?………
Cant wait to show my father! He loves your videos Ben... as two Machinist's we love your videos and are extremely interested in how such things were built. just for fun a piece of paper is .003 thousandths thick so this is somewhat unreal to me :O
Firstly I'm glad to see you are back. Secondly happy to hear your thoughts and facts about the use of geopolymers. Thirdly if giant lenses for melting Granite were used then where is the evidence of them. Surely they must be somewhere? Lastly there is a TH-cam video of someone melting granite and it does not behave as you might think. Keep up the great work Ben.
@@jamesseeker1538 I loved history when I was in high school it’s fascinating to learn about our past which is still a mystery. My views you can’t move forward unless you know where you’ve been
@@trustme7660 sure you can we are a Species of inventors, you know monkey see Monkey do. Even the animal kingdom uses tools and they don't have any written History...
@@jamesseeker1538 Yep, just to program them how to follow rules in system and believe in all served lies, also to weaken ability to criticize authorities..when someone is brainwashed from early age it's very hard to wake him up to truth
We will never know what the granite boxes were used for, I could imagine a different use . I am not convinced boxes like this were used as coffins for the dead..
You are right. I see a lot of baloney in the comments that does not come above the most primitive superstition level, not different from "lightning is what you see when Thor throws his hammer from the sky". The remarkable thing is that int he old days, e.g. of Herodot and others, people were rather practical about all this. Apparently, not any more.
i don't see any religious reason being enough to warrant cutting a 20 ton airtight lid off the main block to seal the enclosure. they weren't idiots; techniques that looked impressive but saved on labor were used where it was warranted. i only see functional reasons for having such things on the giant stone boxes. and since a fair number of the large stone boxes have been found submerged, it makes me wonder if that wasn't part of the original design, a box that would remain sealed under its own weight underwater. whatever originally went inside, it seems laughable to me that they could construct the great pyramid and the valley of the kings, and still feel it necessary to put 20 ton lids over bull or human carcasses. to me that says they were repurposed during dynastic times, but originally constructed for something else.
So happy you got to go back to Egypt I live vicariously through you lol. The work you do with uncharted x is just incredible your interpretation and extensive research has brought you a videos to the top of its genre I really enjoy them keep up the good work and thank you
Don't forget the copper chisels XD haha that's the 'I don't know' answer from archeologists: 'When in doubt, say it's made with copper chisels with pounding stones and that it's either to pray to it or for astronomical purposes'
I'm absolutely hooked. There's no doubt the level of sophistication was much, MUCH higher than the main stream narrative previously thought. The precision of these granite structures is mind blowing.
Ive worked with marble & granite for over 25 years. There is absolutely no way that was done with primitive chisels. Even with todays technology and tools, this is incredibly hard to carve out. To get the inside corners so precise is almost impossible. Whatever it was that they used, it was definitely powered by something other than muscle, granite is way to tough to chisel like that. They must of had some power source which was at least equivalent to electricity, and used diamond tipped tools or something even tougher. Great vid, Glad i found this channel- been binging on your vids for a couple of days now. Thanks for the great vids that you produce, i feel as if im there on location. No other channel gives that experience.
It was probably all done with Electromagnetic Fields and pulsing Arcs with no ware and tear on any tools. Just that simple...
@@steve-o6413 yeah sounds simple, lol
Brien Foerster channel is awesome great too
you'd be surprised as what can be done if the mason knew what they were doing with the tools they are use to working with for their whole lives on a daily basis on the same material
Could it have been roughly cut with hand tools, then sanded to achieve precision?
I have NEVER seen the arched room like this ever in the million Egyptian videos I have watched...then the box...best new video on the entire internet Ben. 🌟. Also the video walk through was like I was there. Much respect 🙏. Thanks
Came to say the same thing. This is so important and should be well studied and explored. Sadly, it takes so much time and effort to explore these ancient sites and that requires so much money nowadays. I only hope they explore this site and most importantly the box more in my lifetime?
Ben is not the only one nor is he the first one, there is a Russian alternative history group called LAI they do proper research and use high end equipment and they get to newly opened locations before anyone else. But they speak russian, so no one knows about them. Stuff they notice and talk about is incredible.
Agreed this is insane
My words.
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Having worked in the granite industry for years I can tell you that even with a modern cnc machine it would be difficult to replicate this in particular the radius in corners are virtually impossible with all but the most specialized equipment, and even today it would usually be much larger radius as the tools need to be bigger so they don't break when cutting. water jet cutting will give a very straight cut but how that is hollowed out is just remarkable. a water jet cuts all the way through. a cnc uses different shaped end cutters to achieve different profiles but quite how this was achieved without modern equipment is beyond me it is very apparent that whoever made this had a level of skill equal if not surpassing our own.
They know full well how it was done, but the Romans siezed all the evidence and its in the Vatican Library; forget about getting it out.
@@organutansphinx9614 only the bottom edge. But everything else inside and out is all square, level, plumb, and true which actually makes the inside of the box even more difficult. It's like they already knew the exact slant of the chamber floor before building the box and moving it in
@Johny 00
If you melt granit you'll get obsidian glass. You can't just pour it back expecting to get granit again LOL
@@BradBrassman
And why exactly are the Vatican withholding this information and what are you basing your assertion off/from?
@@Surgeeon
This is a natural process that takes thousands of years deep within the earth.
Imagine thinking you can melt rock then mold it and get the same the rock back LOLOLOL
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Brilliant, that’s the first footage I’ve ever seen of this amazing stone box. The precision’s astonishing.
As an ex- aerospace engineer and builder of several houses, I have worked in many materials and with many advanced machine tools. The box with the half round arcitrave got me subscribing to your channel. The unpolished sections made with multiple facets tells me everything. These were made by serious machine tools, not hand tools without any doubt. The big elephant in the room is what happened to them ? and why can't we have TV like this instead of the brain numbing crap they serve up ?
I stopped watching TV 3 years ago and I feel much better for it.
Agree. I can see moving big objects. Technics for that isn't hard to figure out and / or apply. Working the stone is different. I would expect them to find bits of diamonds if I had to guess.
our best technology (chemical grade stainless) can only last 15k years - as for the rest? we can't even match the Romans
I honestly believe they had extra terrestrial help. The fact that we've never found a single nut/ bolt, scrap of physical evidence of machinery - I'd suggest that when they left , they took it all with them - or maybe went and dumped it in the deepest ocean. I'd suggest they had advanced laser type machines, relying some kind of concentrated energy - which they probably had. Just a thought.
@@paulkerr782 It's really not helpful to say aliens did it. These guys are doing a lot of work on this and are trying to be taken seriously by the mainstream archeological community and the leaders of antiquities and research institutions.
I appreciate you making a valid point without condemning all other opinions, because who really knows anyhow.
I do, I watched a guy use resonance to cut granite with a piece of copper tube and with a copper angle iron. It took a few hours to go an 2 inches but his setup was pretty basic. The copper tube created a cylinder hole with a perfect granite plug and granite wedge.
@@charlesbartlow8046 link or source? I’m not finding it in a search.
@@charlesbartlow8046 in
@@penguinista a mechanism that creates resonance would also absolutely be doable with quite primative technology too.
who was this guy and how did he produce the resonance. Is there any video evidence of this method
I was reading Petrie's work " the pyramids and temples of Gizeh" today in the morning and I thought to myself " I wonder if uncharted X will post a new video today" and here it is, thanks! XD
The box is uncanny. The room around is unbelievable too. How does one build this kind of curved sealing in granitic blocks ?
The only work know to me, surpassing this are the Barabar caves. A french team made 3D scans of them and precision analysis, even bringing a veteran stone mason on site.
Those underground finds are just mind boggling. Thank you so much for sharing.
This is water jet
@@johnbauer5783how would the pressure be developed, where is the cutting material dust and what kind of flexible piping could have been used
Americans are ridiculous... They want us to replicate an work that us made by people that dedicate all is life to work stone. They cannot understand that life was very different in ancient egypt, and cant understand that they were very advanced in this type of work. Ridicolous...
Such a great video! You're a very rational skeptic. I'm a geologist so I know a granite and a limestone when I see one and it's no doubt those are what I see. Here's my 2 cents. A bit long winded but there is a lot to cover and I might as well give it some effort seeing as you've given a lot of that yourself in making this content.
The granite stone you show looks like an alkali-feldspar rich plutonic felsic igneous rock. The dominant mineral by far is the reddish orange alkali feldspar and the minor components are the white (quartz & plagioclase) and dark (biotite & amphibole) minerals. Quartz is transparent and plagioclase is more opaque. If you saw more quartz relative to plagioclase then this would be an alkali-feldspar granite. If you found more plagioclase relative to quartz then this would be an alkali-feldspar syenite. It has a porphyritic texture meaning the feldspar crystals are larger than the crystals of the other minerals.
Every magma chamber has a different chemical composition because the specific part of the crust that is being heated and melted has its own rock composition and formational history. Therefore it is possible to do a chemical element analysis of the carved stone and match it to the host quarry stone. This is what geochemists would do.
Veining appears minor, at least from the footage you showed. Veins are 3D fracture planes created during deformation events after the rock has been formed. The voids are then filled by superheated mineral fluids (generally silica/quartz). These veins represent geotechnical planes of failure for mining engineers. So for this precise engineering work the block was clearly chosen very carefully by skilled labour who knew a thing or two about rock mechanics.
To the point of geopolymers:
Granite/syenite is the solidified (crystallised) form of magma chambers deep below the surface, made of continental crust melts in this case. The large crystals are created because the minerals have lots of time to grow due to the slow cooling inside the magma chamber. So the minerals have time to crystallise into distinct, large crystals of feldspar, quartz, plagioclase etc. Under a microscope you would be able to see the sequence of crystallisation (the order in which the minerals crystallised). This cooling takes many many years, thousands of years even.
The extrusive forms of granite and syenite are called rhyolite and trachyte respectively. These rocks are the same chemical composition as the magma chamber but physically they appear different. They form by the rapid cooling of the magma as it hits the fridge-like temperatures of the atmosphere, going from its liquid phase above 700°C down to 25°C in an instant. It's like a process of flash freezing. The minerals inside the extruding magma have hardly any time to grow before they are cooled below their individual solidus temperatures, where they turn solid. The cooled rock is therefore very fine grained so can be very difficult to distinguish from another fine grained rock and would require a microscope to see the crystals. Felsic rocks like granite and syenite hold more volatile gases like CO2 and are also very brittle when cooled so rapidly so they tend to erupt more explosively than the slushy soft basaltic lavas of mafic magma chambers like in Hawaii.
What I'm trying to say is that melting the granite and pouring it in a mold would be very hard. Moreover, the rapid cooling time (even if you waited years at a time) would only produce very fine-grained stones.
I also don't see any cemented kind of stones in your footage. Those stones are quite clearly crystalline igneous rocks. As for the limestone, the carbonate sedimentary rock itself is essentially a fossil conglomerate made up of compressed and crushed up shells of dead marine organisms. You'll find large fossils preserved in a cement of smaller fossil fragments which are themselves surrounded by even smaller fossils. The more you zoom in the more fossils you'll find. Again, if you somehow managed to melt limestone and pour it into molds the stone would have zero resemblance to the natural version.
Great to see someone here who really knows his facts, great info, cheers
Thank You for explaining this in such a great detail!
geopolymers: as I remember, Davidovits used grinded minerals (with pounding stones) and not melted. I saw a video of him recreating poured limestone. (not sure about granite)
The proof of his theory, that every stone that solidifies has a magnetic orientation - so if they were poured in situ - every block should be oriented the same, whilst if they are quarried then put into place those orientations would be random. He made the measurements and states the blocks have the same orientation.
Yeah heating limestone might not melt it, but rather burn it and you'll lose a lot of it's weight as CO2 gas. Limestone is just calcium carbonate, CaCO3, so heating would break that up and create CO2 gas and calcium oxide (good old industrial lime). Limestone doesn't have iron, or the magnetic ions of iron so is not magnetic. When Mg is chemically added in nature it becomes hard dolomite. Fe can substitute for the Mg but it's still hard dolomite, not limestone anymore. The Fe dolomite might be weakly magnetic but it takes a lot of specifically magnetic Fe ions to become noticeable. Usually, if dolomite is magnetic it means the rock sequence has separate, fine layers within it specifically composed of high Fe concentrations, generally chemical sedimentary marine deposits called ironstones.
The solidification of rocks doesn't mean they get magnetised automatically. Magnetic iron needs to be part of the melt rock composition in order to freeze their magnetic alignment when they turn solid (called the Currie Temperature). And the iron needs to be concentrated to create noticeable magnetic fields that can be measured. A limestone isn't usually magnetic unless it is interlayered with ironstone. Granite can only be magnetic if the Fe mafic minerals are high in concentration, and in the right ion ratio, to form magnetic minerals like magnetite or pyrrhotite. Iron rocks need to have the magnetic Fe ions to be magnetic. I'm not a specialist in geochemistry or geophysics to speak deeply about the process of measuring poorly magnetic rocks for their magnetic orientations. Magnetic rocks have a magnetic field called a remanent magnetic field. It's the field that is frozen in when the rock was formed. However, a weak remanent field may not be strong enough to show up above the background magnetism of the Earth's current magnetic field. You'd need to be able to measure the 2 fields so a non-magnetic rock like limestone would be very difficult to measure separately. If the Earth's magnetic field is measured instead of the remanent field in the blocks then of course they will all seem to have the same orientation.
So you can use powdered limestone to make new blocks I suppose. But the fossils will be truly microscopic because those are the only sizes that survived the crushing and milling machines that made the powder. The process doesn't create new fossils, it just destroys fossils that are too large and preserves fossils that are small enough to survive the process. To preserve larger chunks you'd probably need a fine-grained cement material to cement the chunks of limestone together. If you find visible fossils and no signs or contacts with cement material it's probably not man-made.
Best comment! Thanks for the detailed info!
You obviously know your stuff, Can you tell me what temperature would be required to melt granite?
As someone who has worked with manufacturing granite and marble countertops/vanities, in a fairly decent sized fabrication shop, the uniform precision of the beveled edge on the outer lip is extremely difficult to perfect even by modern standards. Never mind the more intricate precision details of a 90° angle on the Y-axis. Truly outstanding…
you tell'em...
I think the scientist and archeologist need to get more guys like you who actually do the work on the team...
Grindstones/Silica sand + water + time + slaves
@@Jonathan_Doe_ not even in a million years
Right, we need to rustle up some slaves and test this. I can’t imagine slave work is this accurate though 🤣
As a stone worker and all things stone fabricstor for the past 20 years, I can say that in my company, we put beveled edges or "eased" edges on stone to prevent them from chipping and damage. Natural stone is most fragile when it comes to accidental damage. With that being said, as a professional Mason, this box was not made with copper chizles and hammers.
No. Way.
By the way, granite is one of a kind. Melting it down is impossible, as you would not get the same crystal structure anymore, which would just turn it into crumbly lava like rock.
Well said ... besides the material itself, the cooling speed and method would be critical - each stone...under any logical or reasoned criteria- Its utterly ridiculous that they were “poured” ...as some high financed, farce for documentary show ...
Can we replicate this box with existing technology?
@@diegocarranza587 nope ...i don’t believe so, certainly not in the space it’s resting ...
@@diegocarranza587 we could replicate it, but it would not be out of one solid block. It would have to be several blocks fit to size glued together. Yes. I said glued.
A lot of your daily stone countertop installation includes "seams" which are usually glued together by a resin or a 2 part epoxy compound. Because the stone slabs are smaller than some dimensions of the projects, "seams" is an artistic choke point in the countertop fabrication process. IT is imperative to make the two different pieces of stone as smooth as possible across the seam and as level as possible, because people pay money for that shit. Nobody likes imperfect stone!
Some particular projects can involve sandwiching different slabs of stone to make more girthier granite or quartz monuments or tomb stones. The sandwich ingredients process involves gluing the stone like a sandwich, them shaping it. It all involves highly concentrated epoxy or some sort of plastic compound to bond.
Thats the only way I see this box being made. We do not have the technology to carve that out of one giant rock and shape everything so precisely. Our most advanced hand held tools are crude and not as efficient to tackle particularly tight corners and leaving everything clean. Our diamond technology is based on a set of grit levels which is really annoying and time consuming. This technology seems to have utilized a "one size fits all" approach. So the answer to your question is no.
We can't replicate this today. Especially out of Rose granite of all things for fucks sake! That material is an 7/10 on the stone density scale and its a freaking Granite! Thats insane shit to work with of all things!
@@toppradd youre right to point out the space its resting. As that would be an indicator that it would have to be carved on sight. So questions: 1. Where is the removed rubble from the giant square hole in the box? 2. It would be impossible to get the box down here through the shafts that were already constructed, it would have to be carved in place or be carved and placed there in the middle of the construction phase. 3. If carved after construction phase, what tools did they use? CNC machine? Doesn't look like it. It would have to be hand tools.
Every so many months I have to come back and watch this episode, it blows me away. Thank you for your research brother.
@@Crazytownmetal6 what research... It's fraud. I bet you are also waiting for Jesus to rapture you off the flat earth.
The way you film, and your camera or something, the editing combined with the commentary, I've never seen such great work, and the feeling of being there. Like others have said, I've never seen anything like this on TH-cam or TV before, it's really cool. I'm glad I found this channel!
I work in design and drafting for aerospace products. I've read about this box before and it blew my mind. If we were to make something like this today, with modern CNC machines, it would be quite difficult and VERY expensive, and I think we'd have to build some specialized tools to do it. Keeping the features you mentioned to such tight tolerances would not be resultant to the manufacturing process. Meaning, unless we intentionally wanted them to be that tight, they would not be. That means that those who made this were so far advanced of us that this was just easy for them (which is mind blowing for obvious reasons). OR, at the very least they were as good as we are now, in 2021, and intended for those features to be that perfect. If that's the case, we have to ask why? Just to show off? I call BS. Most people would not even notice how perfectly it is made unless you pointed it out, and even then, most would not find it impressive because they don't understand how hard it is to do. No, I think think these features had a functional purpose, an it certainly wasn't to house a dead body. So what was it for? It's crazy how much we don't know about our own past.
Absolutely. Especially if one considers the the precision on the inside of the box is extremely higher than on the outside. Laser tools showed precision down to microns on inner walls.
Excellent point!!!
Modern tolerance in building is +/- 2.5km
Engineering tolerances are within the micron range.
There is no reason to take time to make these boxes within tolerances that would exceed modern engineering tolerances.
Unless you have tools so accurate that that's just how it is.
There are possible set ups with jigs that would enable such accuracy though.
Even with hand tools.
Same precision in Serapeum
It looks like a good place to hide during the younger dryas. Maybe because it won't spill any liquid in it during an earthquake it held water.
Safe storage and handling of hazardous material.
I don't know about anyone else, but the geopolymer theorists are driving me nuts. I've been saying that the geological properties of granite just don't work like that for quite a while, not to mention all the obvious evidence from quarry to finished product virtually littering Egypt. Other places, perhaps there's a case, but in Egypt? Not a chance. Melt down some granite and see what it looks like, you won't end up with granite when you're done.
Maybe somebody should show Adrian Nash this video 🤷♂️😉
As a geopolymer camp person I don't think anybody credible is disputing the incredible granite carving work.
But the common building stones have been conclusively shown at both Egypt and at locations like Puma Puncu that under electron spectrography have straw in the samples of the middle of the blocks, and the spectrographic analysis shows the constituents of concrete cannot be denied.
I think this makes a lot of practical sense. Save your skilled stone masons for the Granite work, and the common blocks nobody cares about go ahead and pour via geopolymer techniques.
I think a balanced position can be taken.
th-cam.com/video/rf9qK9QTlq0/w-d-xo.html - start at 35 minutes to see the Scanning Electron Microscope results of the rock samples.
@@shanecreamer6889 Hence the reason why I said perhaps in other places. Geopolymer just doesn't make sense when you're talking about granite works.
@@KittyBoom360 Oh, granite can be replicated, it's just not feasible to do so. Those separate minerals have to be at just the perfect temperature for one to crystallize and form while the rest are still molten, then slowly cooled until the next mineral crystallizes and/or solidifies. It would take centuries or more for all that to happen consistently enough to make a granite conglomeration that would be recognizable as a granite. Heat them all up together and then let them cool within a timeframe that would be usable to a human and all you're going to get is volcanic glass. It's not magic or fairy dust, it's just geology...we know the processes involved and unfortunately it requires some level of understanding in the subject before it becomes obvious.
@@Skinflaps_Meatslapper well said. Even for blocks from sedimentary rock the evidence for a geopolimer origin in my opinion are weak.
Great stuff Ben, thank you for all your hard work!
Just discovered this video and I'm utterly amazed by the content.
Great work sir.👍
When ever I see some intricately carved rock my mind blows . As a tradesman I understand the amount of labor that goes into making things perfect. The planning stage is critical. “Perfect” doesn’t happen by accident . You must be a skilled and trained craftsman to produce Any kind of consistency. Let alone thousands of craftsman working together to create GIANT architecture. In FRICKEN ROCK !
Rock is incredibly hard to work precisely in.
And somehow “they” whoever the hell they were, have produced precision before precision was a thing . And it’s still standing thousands of years later . Whitworth discovered thou my ass !
I agree. The internal corners of that box blow me away. ;)
I've worked as a craftsman and technician, including stone and precision machined components. You simply cannot - *cannot* - get that level of precision with hand tools. It is impossible.
In the case of the obelisk (same at Easter Island on the statues), it's 2 part process.
1. First rough cut is in the form of the 'scoop' marks by way of melting either melting or altering the molecular structure somehow to be able to carve or scoop it with ease.
I would suggest a hi-tech tool that could change the molecular structure of any type of rock at various depths from fine 1-2mm up to a foot (I say roughly a foot as that is the width of
the 'scoop' marks) that it would be in such a state of flux that it would be free to be shaped or removed. This is just to get the basic shape required. (a lot like cutting down a tree and
running the log through the sawmill to cut the size you want, you then take that piece of wood and give it to a carpenter to lave into whatever you want to create)
2. Once the rough cut was achieved, then the second part of the process was to finish, either by cutting or laser type devices to give the final smooth finish to the object in question. (no I
have no idea what tech on this part, maybe even the same device set on a different mode or setting for all I know)
3. Transportation. They would have to use some sort of levitation/anti-gravity type tool to transport (as crane type devices just wouldn't cut the mustard). And if they have devices that
are capable of molecular state altering, then they are pretty much smart enough to have a levitational technology as well.
@@mrspikiespike4807 Did you ever see a laser on stone? It doesn't work. The laser heats up individual crystals in stone which vaporize and explode instantly. When cutting stone by laser the surface is very rough due to this microexplosions. In a homogenous crystalline structure like metal that does not occur and thus metal can be cut precisely by laser. That's why stone is cut by high-pressure water jets or by saws.
The unfinished obelisk shows regular scooping marks from some kind of rotating grinding abrasion tools. Like an excavator machine. And they are all the same width, so definitely a machine tool.
Forget Zahi Hawass with his slaves pounding diorite balls against the hard granite... :D)))
@@DilbertMuc I think you took that way to litraley in what I was attempting to get at.
Neither you or I can point to their technology or the machines utilized, hence why I said "(no I
have no idea what tech on this part, maybe even the same device set on a different mode or setting for all I know)".
I used the term "Laser type device" more so as a definement in a technological device that is capable of pinpoint accuracy and uniformity in terms of cutting...hang on can't use that, you will take that literally as a blade of some type...slicing...dissecting ability. Another similar example would be the hyroglifics found on many obelisks, they have the 'Laser like appearance' or better still, an 'engraved type appearance'. More to the point was some sore of tech that finished it off perfectly smooth and straight.
And yes, there is clear evidence that saws of some description was used on various assorted objects, there is no question on that. Many even leave telltale striation marks of such cuts and drills.
As to your rotating grinding abrasion tools...not so sure, they are smooth as a baby's bum with no finite striation marks anywhere to be seen, unlike other objects.
And please, don't forget, you are basing all this on your current level of knowledge of building techniques of the 21st century in which we as a society are unable to comprehend how they where built by todays standards...so you have to think outside the box a little. Like it or not, they were more advanced than us today, heck, we still don't even know what their purpose was for.
@@mrspikiespike4807 Actually, as we do not know how they cut the stones and more curiously how the hell they transported those huge monsters and moved them around in narrow tunnels (without using some anti-gravity machines... ;) we need to exclude possibilites to find out the real truth. So far we know that they certainly didn't use Zahi Hawass' Diorite pounding balls and some copper chisels. Same with the thousands of vases with 1mm thick stone walls. There can be made cuts with copper, but it leads to nowhere. Same with wooden cranes for 1400t blocks in Baalbeck or the unfinished Obelisk, which is impossible. Later, the Romans had a way to transport big blocks, but not 1400t monsters.
How could the granite box be carved then? Not by laser, not by hand tools. That's what we know. I am not suggesting a computer controlled CNC machine, which would be the logical answer, but obviously impossible... or is it?
I'll just thumbs up this video before watching it. Your videos are always top notch and never disappoint.
Once again, you didn't disappoint. Great video Ben! Your narration, analysis, and explanation are always superb. Thanks for the upload.
The box was in place and they built the room around it...AMAZING!!!!
absolute proof of transporter "beaming" technology
In the dark as well. How did they see what they were doing?
Were you there to see it? or just assuming?
that would be a good assumption, but isn't it under the bedrock?
the replies are missing the joke :D
The box is impressive, however I literally shouted HOLY SHIT at the precision arched ceiling and it's beveled! Yikes!😳
Reminds me of the Sudama cave at Barabar in India (except that is carved from rock and this is made from panelling). Maybe for the same purpose ?
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Yeah, that ceiling deserves it's own video!
Just wanted to thank you directly for allowing those of us who really want to tour the real stuff and see what it’s like and try to fathom the true goings on but can’t make it to the sites. Thank you. It’s some of the best material anywhere to actually see what it’s like to be there.
Get off your wallet and get to those sites, man!
I never thought I would find this interesting but I'm hooked now! Amazing video, thanks.
Excellent blog thank you for bringing this to everyone's attention
Great video. Thanks for covering Geopolymer 😃 that arched granite ceiling was something else.
What I don't understand is why no electron microscope scanning has not ever been done on these boxes to try and find some trace of the tools used to make them. Even after couple thousand years there would surely be some detectable metal embedded in those boxes especially if made of a copper alloy!
Well fantasy sells more truth makes people lose interest
@@Bart-Did-it They used granite to cut and smooth granite! Its pretty simple after thye used much harder what to cut them out of the bedrock? Do you know the answer? NON OF YOU BIG MOUTHED IGNORNAT FOOLS DO! its dolerite1
I believe Christopher Dunn did examine an artifact with a microscope. I want to say it was the schist disk or core drill #7
@@Bart-Did-it True but I really believe that many of these artifacts are truly much older than we are being told. Especially the stone ones, they can't carbon date stone and from what I understand the other methods do not work either. Then there is the just massive size of the stones themselves and the accuracy in how they were cut.. Things just don't add up.
@@oldogre5999 trust me it was easy as PI or should I say cake it was all so very easy it just all took TIME and lots of hands and obviously supreme knowledge for the time .
Most world experts believe that if the treasure of the knights Templar is found it’s will not just be gold diamonds and artefacts.
The treasure will be a large library or! Just one big book with all the accumulative knowledge of mankind from about 5000 years ago till when the vault was sealed where ever it is .
Knowledge is mankind’s greatest achievement the collection of knowledge for the future generations we are nothing without it just monkeys squatting in the mud .
The inside of these boxes are incredible. The fact that they made the outer so square and flat are incredible. But the inside angles where the walls meet or the bottom corners are nuts to try and think about how it was done.
Right, it amazes me so much too, how that can possibly be done...? The inner bottom corners, they are perfectly perpendicular, this is simply mind blowing how they could achieve that, I have no idea... Saws? The curiosity on that sucks me in, I need to take a breath :P
It’s amazing to think about. If an asteroid impact or pole shift shook the planet, sending tsunamis miles High, that circled the planet several times today, nothing would be left. Satellites would be the evidence of our past. If it happened 5,000 or 12,000 years ago perhaps, the only thing left would be the megalithic structures that were strong enough. Working with huge stone blocks isn’t really a thing anymore due to our lost methods and capitalism doesn’t really allow it, as it’s not cost effective; there’s no profit to me made. But back then they were heavily into it, and were damn good at it too. What id do to have a glimpse into our past.
It is incredible. But are inability to conceive of the unremitting labor and devastating ability of ancient artisans does not mean it was done by some since vanished laser technology. Please, I beg Ben to show us one stinking shred of advanced technology beyond the wood, copper, and leather the Egyptians had on hand. And no, leave out the dolemite river stones (aka "possible ball bearings). Those round stones have been demonstrated, in the lab, to be able to whack out a "lost obelisk" with a two year time frame, leaving behind similar marks. Please. Just give us one alleged high tech ancient tool. In all those passageways, surely, not one fragment of a some advanced tooling? Not even a chip or a splinter???
@@jeffreymcneal1507 The Egyptians didn't build the pyramids. The entire Giza site was already ancient and forgotten to the world when the Egyptians discovered it when they settled the region. So yeah, the Egyptians had nothing, as you say.
But that's like me saying "I can't believe my cat is hungry today, because I went for a jog yesterday."
It doesn't make any sense. Those two things are completely separate from each other, and one does not have any bearing on the other statement's truth.
Well said.
I fully agree!
It would be interesting to see this surface at a microscopic level and see if there are any striations or scratches
There was french documentary done titled "BAM" which I believe was an acronym for "Before or Beyond Ancient Materials or megalith" I forget. However they take measurements of angles, of the flatness, hardness, and polish. They bring up some great thoughts and point out things one may not think of. Check it out, it's very informative,as well as mind blowing of the precision involved.
@@CarsCatAliensbuilders of ancient mysteries
@@se7en910 Thank you for clarifying that. Yeah, I don't know why I didn't take 15 seconds and look up the acronym.
Microscopic photos should be taken for each measured segment along the length of the surface to determine of there is any changes in the surface. It would be incredible if they find little or lack of changes on the surface (due to wear of tools, inconsistent pressure of tools, etc., all possible reasons). With the accurate tools we have today, we have enough work to keep scientists busy for years to come.
@@georgekraus9357 Watch the documentary by a french team. Search B.A.M building ancient monuments... The do a lot of precision measuring, surface smoothness...
Gotta love the grave robber explanation for the empty King's Chamber, etc. They stole everything including the stars and hieroglyphs covering the walls and ceiling. Damned thorough.
It’s such a joke
Yes, people looking to make money are going to steal everything they can get their hands on.
@Paul Taylor they forgot to steal the pyramid too, wouldn't fit in their purses.
Even if it was created by geopolymer, the mould would still have to meet the high precision levels, so it does not explain the enigma.
????
You can make a mould out of ... Sand or dirt or clay - or any soft material - we do this today.
The difficulty of precision comes from being precise in an incredibly hard material.
@@zm5668 ??? The weight of the cast material would flex the soft mold, there's no way you're going to get tolerances like this with a soft mold.
@@ProsonicStudiosLLC
??????????????? Nice try
I was answering his question in relation to precision of the moulds. I was just making the point you can make moulds out of a soft material to be very precise.
So you know sand or clay won't compress? I dont think you do.
At any rate the whole idea of geopolymer is ridiculous. I think it's dumb - Like I said I was only responding to his point about the moulds being precise.
That is the whole point of moulds after all is to obtain a shortcut to precision.
But you are trying to get me on a different point that I never made. And you have no basis to make the claim you did anyway. Sand and clay and other such things used for metal moulds don't "flex" for obvious reasons.
@@zm5668 in order to execute precision you need to be able to measure precision, no matter what medium you work on. This is extremely difficult and has only been achieved in the modern era in the last 60 or 70 years at the earliest
@@StoutProper
That is only partially true
But when it comes to square angles and blocks. The dynastic Egyptians had that technology and would be able to make a mould.
It is far more difficult to replicate that out of hard granite that a soft sand
I’m a machinist, and it’s a dream of mine to go in there with a set of calipers, micrometers and all my measuring tools. I would measure everything I could!!
I would have been happy just to give the interior of that box a good vacuuming and cleaning. Then you could take your measurements.
Bring a surface plate or cast iron straight edge for scraping, and some high spot blue. Maybe your best big square too.
I just haven't figured out how they got the inside corners square.
@@feger481 LMAO :)
You will find the tolerances are so precise you will have difficulty measuring the differences.
I’m a stone maçon and I can tell you getting these result in granite by hand without carbide chisel and diamond blade is virtually impossible. Line stone on the other hand would be doable.
Its mindblowing. The outside of the box is one thing. The arches. How that box is cored out with such precision with no marking is just mindblowing.
To get the north / south alignment, all I can think of is if the roof was once open before the pyramid was build over top. Also the arched ceiling looks like a perfect radius which in itself is more complex than the box, imagine the difficulty in creating multiple ton radius blocks perfectly joined together. Just incredible!
Also a curved ceiling would take a vertical load of rubble and fill better...
I think you and Jimmy are the Dynamic Duo of archaeology. I love it, please work together more. You are producing important data for us!
I'd give my life to go back and see how all this stuff was built, just imagine watching how this civilization lived for a week in spectator mode
Me too !
it hurts my brain trying to figure this out. truly mind bending. the answer is probably more obvious than we think.
Chances are, you won't need to give your life to find this stuff out. The biggest problem we've had was feeling superior to all civilizations who came before us, with the notion we keep adding knowledge and very little was lost. We think knowledge just piles on each successive culture, til one day we live like Star Trek. Including the idea vast amounts of knowledge can be swept away can give us the humility to at least ask the questions we need to ask. That's a big shift in our thinking, moving to another paradigm.
@@dougwedel9484 yeah, Ive always thought civilizations that long a ago wouldve had time to evolve further than we know, all that time they didn't event the wheel?.. who knows what they were using back then and where it ended up
@@dunno6442 I believe Egypt had chariots. A lot of the architecture we have today, was built off of their discoveries. I think a lot of history got lost, or erased, or changed, as civilizations fell
Great job Ben.
ayyye brien! love both of you guys channels. Plz keep it comin!
@@DEV3N87 Doing my best!
@@brienfoerster brien, do you think that granite box was built before or after the tunnel system leading up to it?
@@DEV3N87 Still watching it.
You are the man, Brien.
Makes me happy when I see people like you in the world. Logical, open minded and not only about money. It gives me hope! Great work and keep it up! 😀❤️
Thanks!
Thank you!!
Ok, I'll admit it, I'm envious. What an experience, trekking with Uncharted X
I have not been to Egypt since the 1970's and I found this fantastically interesting and thought provoking. Thank you for posting.
I have a Masters Degree in geology. There is NO way that box is made of powder or molten rock - the crystallinity of the rock is clearly genuine granite; it stems from slow cooling (thousands of years) happening far under ground at some pressure.
If you melt granite and pour and let it cool under ambient pressure and temperature, you would get either glass (obsidian) or a very finegrained "volcanic" rock, rhyolite.
Forget about powder and molten rock.
Super interesting video, just like the other ones. 👍👍👍
Thank you. We dont need to speculate, a whole field of science already exists: geology. Geologists such as yourself can conclusively tell a natural rock from a poured block just like a Zoologist can tell a lion from a tiger. There is no debate and its not even that hard.
Now try telling that to the " alien technology" crowd😅
@@lancehobbs8012 I would love for there to be concerted effort to index these materials... as they do with metals. The chemical composition of metals allows for them to be aged and regionally located. I think there would be tremendous value in creating that index because it appears that many of these sites a meshed together from different projects... the video touched on that towards the end of the video. The index would provide morr evidence of that reality.
I'd also like to see a review on why some of the stones appear to be geopolymers after corr samples were taken... it found the 20ton upper layer stones contained microbubbles, human hair, and other irregularities that wouldnt exist in naturally created stone. However, that same structure had 80ton foundation stones where the extracted core samples proved to be naturally created stone.
Was made using Whitworth Three Plates Method
It's 100% impossible for them to have "cast" that granite. It's already been proven via crystaline analysis. This channel just wants to push bs theories.
Because they make shit loads of money doing so is the answer to your next question.
Thank you for your videos. I love em.
You do such a good job of just laying out the facts.
Love it!
When looking at modern constructions, small alcoves (like the one halfway down the stairs where you came in at the start of the video) are usually added for utilities like air-conditioning controls and/or electric circuitry boxes/panels. Corridors surrounding a chamber are probably also utility corridors for adding whatever the builders needed that corridor for. See extra corridors in metro systems or utility tunnels underneath modern-day cities for access to electricity and gas services. When you have a chamber that contains a major utility that could need repairing or adding things, it's best you have corridors and pathways that give access to that chamber. Planning is what it's all about.
Good thoughts.
If those service shafts supply both Energy and delivery Systems they wouldn't need to be much bigger than the box itself...
That's some great thought. The London underground seems to be riddled with what we call 'cubby holes' that were built for a purpose just where they needed it. Whatever explanation that anyone comes up with for that loop section - it sure seems like a waste of time to go to all that effort without any purpose that we know of.
Exactly. People's imaginations tend to fail when contemplating the enormous period of time that's elapsed since these structures and objects were made. Only stonework has survived thousands of years of the elements and human scavenging, there is almost no trace of any other materials that were used (not least metals). What we're looking at are the 'bare bones' of _machines._ How anyone can look at, for example, the inside of the GP or the pyramid complex at Teotihuacan and not recognise them as such is beyond me
BTW, if you've ever watched the movie _Forbidden Planet,_ the great machine complexes left by the long-dead _'Krell'_ always reminded me of the cylopean ruins here on Earth, I sometimes wonder if the writers were, consciously or not, inspired by them. That aspect of the film gave me the same sense of pathos I often feel when I see these fantastical ancient ruins and objects.
I fully agree with you: not a "geopolymer"! Taking a simple 10X jewelers loop magnifying glass and looking closely at granite shows the quartz, feldspar, mica and other mineral grains actually to be individual crystals that have all grown together, interlocking each face into and tightly up against all adjacent mineral faces. This is consistent both with (for example) quartz to quartz grains and quartz to feldspar, mica, and what other mineral crystals present in the specimen. Looking closely at this tight interlocking where (again for example) a quartz grain lies up against, say, a feldspar grain, very clearly shown the two minerals meeting and pushing against each other as their respective crystals WERE GROWING.
This very tight kind of meeting between two different substances CAN NOT be accomplished by geopolymer. Whether ground to a powder or some more corse aggregate, when the slurry dries or cures solid (as in modern concrete), 10X magnification will show the individual components relatively tightly up against each other, but there will be no trace of the type of meeting between the grains that only occurs when such grains are crystalizing, and, as they do so begin pushing against neighbor grains...actually inter-locking. At higher magnification this is thoroughly proven as these mate-ing surfaces will exhibit the tiny give-and-take of growing crystals pushing up against each other with much much more pressure than simply liquidized particles can achieve.
Ah, there's some hope in the comment section after all
I was just gonna say this
Excellent!
Quite right. On a related topic which illustrates much the same point...Is glass a mineral?....www.e-education.psu.edu/earth520/node/1689
@@isee7668 Amorphous is the key word there, and also the key difference between a brown lump of volcanic glass and granite.
Never clicked so fast, welcome back Ben. How was Egypt? Kindest Regards from the UK.
A thoughtful and remarkable presentation. Thank you.
Everyone who has some experience with precision machining instantly knows this is 100% impossible with hand held tools, including modern tools. You don't just get lucky on this kind of surface precision and paralell precision.
I'd personally like a model of this box, just to hand out: "Could you give me a price quote on making me one of these, please?"
The "Oldest vases" with the millimeter wall single-piece stone construction are also "ok, you can't make me one for a million."
ROBRENZ fighting to get this sort of precision on a surface place, etc ... not easy at all.
Tell that to Hawass 😁😁
How long have you been working with granite?
I was an aerospace machinist for 11 years. I ran very, very precise machines. You can maintain a couple thou tolerances fairly easily, even 5 ten thousandths of an inch. However, the longer the dimension, the more difficult these tolerances are to keep. Slight changes in temp even can change you dimensions. These boxes are unbelievable. I cannot wrap my head around it. Peace my friends
Well said. With experience in both machining and stonework, I can say with confidence this box and room are impossible to re-create in our modern time regardless of the budget. Whoever made these used technology that has never existed, not now, not ever. ?.
I'm continually amazed by the sofistication of the artifacts found around the world that are obviously highly engineered
I love that this channel exists. The more people that know, the more people that might get interested, and that's great.
It's made by knocking a round rock against the stone they wanted to shape to obelisks, statues, pyramids, sarcophags etc.
Yea, all with copper chisels. Let's go throw up a pyramid in a few weekends. Few beers and some work, easy peasy 👀
@@80milekyle70 but he's batshit crazy half the time.
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Mind boggling what technique has been used! But what boggles the mind even more why so many intelligent people fail to see whats in front of their eyes, and refuse to see how much there is to be learned from all these clues! Thank you for showing this to us all!
Here's the thing that boggles my mind. Imagine ANY tool... That tool will be used to create something more valuable/complex than the tool itself. Here, the tools (talking about rocks here) are so well made that they are beyond our comprehension. Which leads me to believe that the pyramids probably have usefulness that we have yet to discover.
If pyramids do not have a purpose, it's the modern equivalent of constructing millions of huge cranes and piling them up to make 'modern art' or something...
I know that a ton of people believe that the pyramids have more to them than meets the eye, but when you see what it took to make them, it's impossible that the result would be more primitive than the entire process of making them. It would run contrary to ANYTHING you can think of...
We're not using jet engines to make paper sheets, we're not using processors to make tables... The current narrative is that they had the means to do something like that and they made something that is smaller (in terms of usefulness) than the sum of its parts... This doesn't add up.
@@SLRModShop yes, which points to the energy theory, if you can create unlimited amount of clean energy and transfer them through the pyramid then it'd be worth all the efforts, or as a communication device to gather or send information like the space telescope we create today. I mean of that kinda significance.
@@piercezhang8153 I still have no clue to this day. But most pyramids (and only the first ones are interesting as I think that the more recent ones are copycats and Egyptians didn't have a clue either) have many features that seem stupid at first glance leading me to believe that the purpose eludes us.
Entrance always on the North side, why?
Entrance always going down, then splitting and going up.
Pointless stress reliefs in the so called king's chamber.
Queen's chamber always perfectly aligned 90° from each side of the pyramid.
Every entrance of any king's chamber is always in a corner... why?! Every temple they ever made has its door centered. But the room where they were putting a Pharaoh in has a door in the corner? So strange. Feels like blasphemy almost.
My money is on sound/vibrations.
The unfinished obelisk in Aswan looks like the rock was melted and scooped. As if they could make the matter vibrate to soften it up and then scoop it.
Vibrations can also levitate things (we can do it with tiny things), maybe they knew how to levitate huge things. Which would answer MANY questions.
So, let's say they discovered "vibrational levitation", and in combination with huge rocks, these were their tool. The fact that they've built the pyramid with that leads me to believe that pyramids could probably either harness or create even bigger amount of vibration.
Why? I don't know, I told you, I'm still clueless :)
@@SLRModShop😂😂😂
@@SLRModShop Interesting thought. Unfortunately, imo this does not seem to be sufficient for many things concerning religious ideas.
That was entertaining and very well done. Outstanding presentation.
There are more theories than there are stones in the Great Pyramid 🤔 thanks for the AMAZING video and comments - astonishing footage! 🙏🏽
I keep watching this whole series through over and over. I’m so determined to come on a trip with you in the future Ben. Amazing work no matter how many times I watch. You’ll be remembered for your work for many years in the future, just like Petrie
to me the "gods" of Egypt were the ones who came before, stories of them passed down eventually became religion. These are the people with the skills to make these things
Yes I can go along with your assessment. How does a civilization appear with incredible mechanical skills only to degrade in abilities over time ?
Yes I agree. Every culture around the world has stories about the time before. I bet there is much hidden beneath the sands which we are still unaware of.
@@scottyfox6376 I believe they got wiped out by some cataclysm, few remained to pass down stories and maybe be the gods who called themselves Ra etc . Didn't degrade just restarted. If we got hit by a cataclysm now and only a small amount of us remained , I for one wouldn't know how to make a computer chip we'd need to reinvent if those people with the knowledge died
Yeah, knowledge would be lost in one lifetime.New children would have no conception of such devices as they have never experienced them.Knowledge and accounts of such times would have to be written in stone to last for future reference. Proper analyses and open mind towards these structures is way to go.
You're right. Every culture has stories, legends of these 'Gods'. Atlantis, Lemura, Mu, Og, The Epic of Gilgamesh, The Mahabharata are just a few examples of 'Gods' that had not only the power of flight but a masterful understanding of the solar system and the universe. All dismissed by mainstream academia as stories or fables. 40 years ago the solar system was thought to be the only place that had planets, now we are finding them orbiting almost every star. Academia has a very arrogant and closed attitude and anyone who does not follow the narrative is dismissed and labelled a crackpot. Evidence of ancient high technology is all over Egypt and the rest of the world and historians just ignore it. Shame on you!
Was not aware of the "tilted" precision box at that site, or the arched ceiling. Fantastic video
I remember a time when every subject could be hypothesized, speculated about, with ideas, opinions, and facts freely discussed in an academic search for the truth, and no fear of being censored because it wasn't "the official story". So far, you've picked a topic that's still OK to think about and speak about. Good luck, I hope it lasts, because it's a highly compelling mystery.
Very true. This limits our ability to learn and teaches us to accept what we our told as opposed to open it to debate and discussion
There is no subject, academic or otherwise, free of censorship in 2021
@@DarranKern True. And it just got worse over the weekend as Parler was purged.
It seems quite likely the ancient people described construction methods in terms of their gods---what we see relating to their gods (statues, murals, etc.) may well be telling us how they made things.
Because it undermines their whole knowledge base.
Geopolymer therory always had this flaw - never really able to expain how the granite blocks could have shaped. As in many megalithic structures we see, it retained ita original striations and layering, a feat impossible when all are proposedly melted to become one consistent mixture. Thanks Ben for continuing doing this great work!
Isn't it odd that the principle of the arch seen here, wasn't used (or else no examples survived) in any above ground structures ? Mystery upon mystery upon mysteries abound everywhere. I've only discovered you in the last 6 months or so Uncharted X. Thank you for the gift of all this renewed awe. It's done an almost jaded soul great good.
As a mechanical engineer we use large granite slabs as precision flat reference surface plates. I believe there is a very relevant point to think about, that is the method of how these plates are made. The precision flat surface is created (or at least finished).......by hand. No machines, but just a second flat plate to wear in the work piece. Critically, the more you use the tool plate the flatter the tool becomes. In other words by rubbing two roughly flat objects together they both become flatter and flatter. I believe that is how the surface is finished with the sarcophagus. These precision flat surfaces are used today for creating other flat and straight components. Granite is the perfect material for this purpose as it is both stiff and very stable mechanically and thermally. I have a granite straightedge in my workshop used to setup other precision machine tools. - I would love to explain this more to you and perhaps show you the stone working techniques.
@gringott12 lol. Why?
Thank you.
I also thought of a granite lapping plate made by hand. It's not difficult if you know what you're doing and have time on your hands. In this machine age people seem to forget how well things can be made by hand. I've seen lapping plates ground by hand that are so flat that when one is placed on the other they stick.
Why explain how to do something simple when you could just as easily replicate it.
The flatness of those granite reference surfaces has always boggled my mind, specifically in how flat and smooth they are. But you cleared it up for me! Lol
Ben is so engaging when explaining the details and varied aspects involved when these areas were built. He is easy to understand and genuinely happy to share his discoveries. Thank you for increasing my knowledge of these ancient sites.
He answers every theory😮
This is seriously what I am curious about. Thank you for sharing those footages and insights.
This precision box is (one more? ) indeniable proof of some long forgotten highly technical society.
Wonderful video, and outstanding job getting the information you are providing out in a way that is accessible to almost anyone. I will definitely be checking out more of your videos ( this was my first), and I look forward to supporting your continued work and outreach. Please keep up the great work, and good luck on your future endeavors.
Great stuff. As a Chemist (though not a geochemist), I certainly agree about the nature of the granite. The crystal sizes within the rock are very much dependent on cooling extremely slowly underground. It could not be fabricated by humans at the surface in any reasonable time frame.
Great comment. Thanks!
Granite is an igneous rock. The crystal size is an indication of cooling rates. Smaller the crystals faster the cooling. The crystals and relatively small.
Even if it were a composite material that does nothing to explain the precision.
Depth defining pressure, which compresses most mica, quartz or feldspar?
The interest and passion of the whole production makes for a fantastic and enjoyable experience.th to you all.
Fantastic..look it up.
Terrific, rock-solid video (pun intended!). As an engineer myself, I super appreciate the discipline, logic and rigor that goes in to this work - it's not easy! And it requires a deep personal restraint to focus on the right way to go through this. Bravo! Excellent work.
Just incredible how this object was manufactured. Thanks Ben, for presenting this enigma.
If you ever get back to look at the block that had the "over cut" you mentioned (~27:05), take a ruler and a plastic toothpick, or a machinist's caliper, and use the toothpick/depth-gauge to measure the depth of the cut from where it stops to where it is straight. From there you can plot the depth (y) along the cut length (x) and from that you can give a crude estimate of geometry of the tool (flat/circular/triangular), and possibly primary measurements (like tool radius or angles). I am not sure if they would allow you to use metallic tools, but plastic ones would not mar the stone. If they would allow you to use standard machinist depth gauges, then they you should be able to make very precise measurements. You might need to check to make sure that is allowed, but they allowed you to touch the stone, photograph it, and set things on it, so it is possible they would allow conventional measurement techniques. That said, do ask.
I agre, and let eksperiensed stoneworkers of today be a part of the team. This should be self-evident.
Words. Show us then.
The biggest mystery to me is why modern Archaeologists want to completely ignore these kinds of discoveries!
Ignore?, why do you think they're ignoring it?.
…because their is no other explanation, than „made by extraterrestrials 👽 „🤫
Ive never seen these things mentioned on mainstream documentaries at all
@@LeicaM11 Of course there is. Humanity is older than we think. The whole point of Brien's posts are evidence of a global cataclysm.
It's all about organizational politics. Pioneers get arrows in their backs. Nobody wants to be the fly in the ointment who says that their peers have been wrong all this time. Their status, and ultimately funding, would dry up.
I've learnt so much daily the last cpl of yrs about ancient civilisations and learning new things thanks to your channel..only difference is that your actually there videoing it..Cool stuff thanks mate...Ironically I live in Petrie North Brisbane!
This is the kind of stuff that should be on the news and front page of every newspaper.
If news were about informing populace it would.
Instead we get stories about the Kardashians.
Very true. Atleast more and more people become interested in stuff like this.
no air time.. they must push the false fear... and hide things like this!
@@jimmyzhao9748 Atlantean wisdom seekers?
Ant walks through an old car engine, enters manifold, explores a cylinder... wonders "Is this the king's tomb"?
Lol, very good analogy!
Looking at layout, I’d say he’s in the turbo, but why the 4inch taper on the gasket?
Wow beautiful analogy I never thought of it like that
_"We live within the ruins of an ancient structure whose vast size has hitherto rendered it invisible."_
Coming back to this gem, i just was thinking of this box 😅 its sooo perfect
I really liked the one shot showing a laser Pointed into the corner
Me too, that shot blew my mind. It would imply that the floor of the box and the two sides joined in that corner are all at perfect right angles, wouldn't it, unless the laser was tampered with. I was dying to see someone hold up a simple engineer's square to the corners of the box and show a perfect 90 degree angle.
@@Mutius82 - That right angle tool would've been good to check whether the external sides were all 90 degrees, which would mean the slope at the top was a feature, with a distinct, albeit unknown, purpose.
I believe it was an edit job, not actual footage In the commentary Ben said this is something that he wishes would be done there, and to illustrate that, he made a picture .
The bevelling is puzzling. It does protect the edges...
Agreed. I'd like to hear more discussion about this. It's humbling to see it after asking my machine shops so casually to chamfure all edges in a drawing for a part. Was it just as commonplace to "them" back then as it is to us? It is so fantastic to think about.
You can check my my comment in the thread on the technics they might have used
the granite boxes in the Serapeum were (heavily) beveled
It's nice looking and safer to be around... as externally only! These boxes were certainly special to cast magnetised stones, baked inside the box so it wouldn't have bevels right. I still see it's the only explanation, that these were casts not for regular building blocks but for magnetised blocks of crystal, used for utility such as my Giza Fishery Hypothesis... I mean a progenitor was probably build pretty remarkable stuff. Nice would be great to see as VR clip so mentioned on mobile youtube but what's the deal with youtube desktop and Cosmos Elite VR for example?
Add router and Bridgeport to the list of power tools
There’s an ostrich egg that was found with the three pyramids carved on it. It came out of a tomb that was over 7000 years old. There’s a good possibility that these artifacts were not made by Egyptians but a civilization that was far older and more advanced than the Egyptians. If this box was made by hand sanding multiple people spent their entire adult life’s making it.
civilization*
Craig Scott I was just looking around on the tube and read about a prehistoric site on a Island. The technology, calendar, architecture hieroglyphics, etv; looked very much like Aztec artifacts. Anyway its interesting, because many kinds of "dating" of the soils and artifacts have been done since the 1950s up to late '80s. Out of these- ,three groups of scientist published the report that this place dates to as far back as 350,000 years. It appears that even the archeologist community and experts fought to stop the publications of those findings because it throws a huge wrench in human/modern man theory. I think the pyramids are of alien construction., and possibly a service station to refuel their craft. A Ship Stop Oasis - Gas- N - Eat and far more advanced than the 350k dated find or Aztek.The find was under volcanic materials.
@@richardcoram1562 yes Richard very interesting. I think even modern archeologists now are doubting the dates that have been used by scientists since the 1800’s. The pyramids for me date back to before the end of the last ice age. 12000 years ago. Personally I don’t believe the Egyptians built them they don’t match up to structures with hieroglyphs from 3000 years ago. In fact none of the pyramids have any hieroglyphs in them. Some engineers now believe they were some kind of machines. Possibly power plants or hydrogen plants or even microwave plants? I think even the Egyptians now are doubting they built them.
@@doniamer2009 yea Doni you probably should learn some history before talking out your ass.
@@doniamer2009 Not very bright are you?
They won't allow too much technical analyzing of Egyptology because we'll find out that Egypt only adopted it, they did not build it.
They have long known this, but are prevented from disclosing ... CIA / PENTAGON COVERUPS
My thoughts exactly.
Or and this is out there, the mystery/wonder can't be lost if it's not solved therefore lots more tourists and "experts" visiting, creating a nbeasy extra income stream for the tourism sector
Same here
Are those the same "they" who are planting thoughts into your mind with their 5G towers?
The overcuts in hard stone should be enough evidence for any sane person to rethink what they know.. if the stone was shaped by meticulously cutting the stone over months by master craftsmen then why would they spend days worth of work overcutting into the stone
Very good thinking mate!!! did not thougth about that!
Keep going...!!
It's much easier if you think of building a precision form and then filling it with "liquid granite". The main problem is the "liquid granite" that we are only now developing with geopolymer science,
@@joeweatherstone4770 The granite used to create such absolultely perfect objects was not liquid. It was softened, molecularly using advanced technology involving hyper-intense vibration at the resonant frequency of the granite. That altered it in a manner that rendered it plasticine in nature, and in that state it could be pressed into a mold as one can press clay into a mold. It would not have been heated so prohibitive heat would not have been present.
Im a drywaller, i can do arch ways, but this is some far beyond advanced skill, the craftmanship makes me excited to be human. Its a big reminder of what we can do if we put our heart, soul and mind to creativity. I wish they documented thier work. I wonder if they use some sort of blue print
....some sort of blue print ??? Seriously ???
To realize such complicated structure, 3D or multi dimensional image.
THEY did not just quory stone and cut in site withour a extremely acurate knoledge of architecture,math,material rezistance,astronomy and who knows many sciencies.
I’m sure it was all documented, the Vatican has 50+ miles of book shelves that closed to the public.
@ Wendell
Check out the Broch at Carloway
Isle of Lewis , Scotland.
A drystone tower - double layer
on the outside with several floors
joined together with lintels .
All dry stone.! Dates from Iron Age .( 100 BC - 100 A D )
@@PacificNorthwest360would love access to that library.
@@PacificNorthwest360
“…the Vatican has…miles of bookshelves…”
Nope.
They wanted no record of such things.
Christians burned or destroyed anything they could gets their hands on
Anything that was evidence of the “primative’s” being superior or even civilized.
I’m speechless and have goosebumps ...
Amazing piece of work/art..
Hi Ben! Another great video. Thank you so much. Regarding the alignment of objects and structures to the cardinal points of the compass, I thought you might find this interesting...
“The first researcher to attempt to document and measure human magnetoreception was Robin Baker, a lecturer at the University of Manchester. Baker had long wondered how ancient Polynesian sailors could navigate hundreds of miles across open ocean and consistently find their way back home. Celestial or solar navigation could work some of the time, but not always - clouds covered the sky for days, and rough seas could quickly throw a boat of course. Captain James Cook wrote about Tupaia, a high chief from Raiatea, near Tahiti, whom he took aboard his ship the Endeavour in 1769. Tupaia drew a detailed and accurate map that spanned more than twenty-five hundred miles, from the Marquesas to Fiji, and included 130 islands. For the next twenty months, the Endeavour sailed the South Pacific and beyond, and Tupaia could always point in the exact direction of his island home, regardless of the Endeavour’s location, the time of day, or the conditions at sea.”
(taken from page 75 of ‘Deep’ by James Nestor)
A bit more on magnetoreception from the same book. This is so fascinating...
“The Guugu Yimothirr, an Australian Aboriginal tribe, had a remarkable sense of direction that they incorporated into their language. Instead of using words meaning “right”, “left”, “front”, and “back” Guugu Yimithirr used the cardinal directions of north, south, east and west. If a Guugu Yimithirr tribesman wanted you to make room for him on a bed, he’d ask you to move a few feet west. Guugu Yimithirr didn’t bend backward, they bent northward, or southward, or eastward. The only way Guugu Yimithirr could communicate was by knowing their exact coordinates at all times, which was a hard thing to do at night or in an enclosed room. But it was second nature for them, as well as for a host of cultures throughout Indonesia, Mexico, Polynesia, and elsewhere, whose languages were also based on cardinal directions.
In the 1990s, researchers from the Max Planck Institute for Psycholinguistics, in the Netherlands, placed a speaker of Tzeltal - a Mayan directional language spoken by about 370,000 people in southern Mexico - in a dark house and spun him around blindfolded. They then asked the Tzeltal speaker (who was unnamed in the study) to point north, south, east, and then west. He did this successfully, and without hesitation, twenty times in a row.”
It’s amazing that over 100 years ago he could accurately measure that box with just lit fire torches in that room!
The work that some of these people did 100 years back is absolutely amazing!
That's what i was thinking but who the hell knows what they had.
They may have had gas or blubber lamps. Lo quality for sure.
@@jaswats9645
Oh yeah duh!
Good call!
@@jaswats9645 High tech to build but low tech to illuminate? Sounds weird bro!
@@antonioperezsimal4065 Not sure what you meant. Gas and other fat fueled lamps are pretty simple.
I am very skeptical about beleving in certain theories but this granite box is very convincing for proof if advanced tools. Truly amazing.
There are granite statues made with equal or greater precision, and many, many more granite "boxes" ... many are much larger and made of even harder varieties of the stone.
That isn't proof of advanced tools.
It's proof they had some method, with tools.
How it worked we don't know.
Filling in gaps with fantasy isn't scientific.
The fact is, this box is well made. That it.
Probably we show evidence for the age.
But there is no evidence that shows some magical tool.
Another fine video, done responsibly and professionally well done sir
Thank you so much Ben, this box is astonishing, and thank you also for your comments on Geo-polymer and concrete, I totally am at one with your views. I hope a Certain Mr Nash watches this video. 👍👍👍
Absolutely agree, so I need not to write the same comment. 👍
Seems like the pyramid was built around the preexisting room containing the box
As a type of celebration or tribute to the skills of the mysterious craftsmen who made it ?
Maybe they thought of it being too well crafted to be created by man because of it high level of accuracy and extreme difficulty of construction and decide to erect the pyramid to honour the skill of the craftsmen ? Or maybe they decided it must be made by higher beings and it needed a pyramid over it to mark it's place ?
@@redwoodcoast Once a man's mind is set he will ignore any facts or evidence that refutes his ideas and make things up to convince people he is right.
I would suggest you need to watch the whole video again and listen carefully to Ben's explanations as to how it got where it is and how it was made, he also gives perfectly acceptable reasons for how it wasn't made but it seems like you didn't get that far into the video.
@@redwoodcoast bruh ... it’s GRANITE a single rock . You can’t cast granite .NOBODY disputes this, not mainstream scientist, not fringe theories just you apparently
@@Garage.Philosophy You did not define what you mean by "casting". So I will. It can mean either molding an object into existence by pouring a liquid into a mold, AND it can mean molding an object into existence by pressing a malleable substance into a mold, such as clay. So the real question isn't about making liquid granite but about making plasticine granite. You need to learn about an aspect of molecular science that is hidden from the public by reading my exposition on the subject. But be forewarned, it will disturb you in a significant way. ~Evidence of Molecular Bond Reversal… & Ancient Stone Softening Technology
sciencetheory.wordpress.com/2019/08/19/evidence-of-molecular-bond-reversal-ancient-stone-softening-technology/
and this dovetails with it: sciencetheory.wordpress.com/2019/08/05/the-ark-of-god-its-deadly-device/
@@redwoodcoast I read them both and proves nothing just your rambling
When I was a young girl I wanted to be an archaeologist, I let my mom and a teacher squash those dreams, I still continued to read about different cultures and findings, this video allows me to travel there and see things I would otherwise never get to see. I admire Petrie also. Thank you so much for this video.
@Yuck Foutube I am in my heart. I had to explain to someone the other day that called a Kokopelli a hieroglyph, the difference between a petroglyph and a hieroglyph. Thank you ! 💓
same (except I was a boy lol) Keep the dream alive!! This generation of archaeological devotee's that haven't had the cultural and economic climate to turn their passion into a paying life work, at least our passion for the past can be passed down to the next generation, where it may be much more conducive to actual research. Channels like this are inspiring thousands of kids to take an interest in reclaiming the lost knowledge or preserving these sites, and opening up more interest in the field
@@DeanBrah I agree, channels like this are a great community outlet for like minded people, how great would it be to get paid for doing something that you love.
I’ve always been fascinated with archeology.I also wanted to be an archeologist but my dream kind of got squashed too. I do it on a amateur level and would love to go and see these sights.Just to be there and absorb the spirituality of actually being there would be amazing. Being a very analytical type person I feel that my gift of having great insight would contribute many ideas to the findings on these sights.
@@riverbandit4159 I think people who are into archeology have a real connection to the past, we can feel it so to speak, like you said being at a site or touching something someone thousands of years ago made, it is this sense combined with analytical skills that would make this an ideal field for you to study, I hope that you get the chance to do it or experience it.
Thanks for the great video incredibly interesting
Younger Egyptian engineers are now taking a lively interest in doing their own measurements of these artifacts.
That is wonderful!
Is this because he banned tablighis? What about the light C and the dark rectangle at the bottom. Didn't the swimmer get to swim to the Hq? It was the cover for st magerets road didn't that help ? 😭
Oh was this the pike swimming out with the salmon cover from that day? 😭
It is hard not to think that the focus of this underground structure is the box itself. Rather than some sort of functionality perhaps it is simply a showcase of the abilities of a distant ancient civilization. Like a time capsule meant for us to find and to ponder how was it possible to create such a work. It seems to clearly state "We had the technology". What better medium than granite to transmit this message spoken in the language of precision measurements and absolute beauty. JD
The crystals of different minerals in granite grow through and around others as they form at different temperatures as the magma is cooling over a long period of time, there's no way that could be done by casting. You'd need to slowly cool it over thousands of years under extreme pressure for it to crystallise. If you were to melt granite and cast it you'd end up with some glassy looking blocks and if you were to cast it from aggregates you wouldn't get the interlocking crystalline structures of the different minerals.
easy on the truth there --- u'll get a bad name
Yep.
"HoW dO yOu KnOw iT's NoT geoPolYmeR???"
Just look at it.
Lets assume they poured granite boxes into molds. This speaks of high technology.
What is the mold made of to withstand this environment? How was it machined? How did they power all this?………
Whoever made these artefacts from Granite cut it like butter . Great work Ben fascinating as usual.
Cant wait to show my father! He loves your videos Ben... as two Machinist's we love your videos and are extremely interested in how such things were built.
just for fun a piece of paper is .003 thousandths thick so this is somewhat unreal to me :O
Firstly I'm glad to see you are back. Secondly happy to hear your thoughts and facts about the use of geopolymers. Thirdly if giant lenses for melting Granite were used then where is the evidence of them. Surely they must be somewhere? Lastly there is a TH-cam video of someone melting granite and it does not behave as you might think. Keep up the great work Ben.
Why in’s t any of these findings pointed out in school this is beyond mind blowing what they achieved and yet there called primitive
Look up why public schools were invented...hint: it's not to educate people
@@jamesseeker1538 I loved history when I was in high school it’s fascinating to learn about our past which is still a mystery. My views you can’t move forward unless you know where you’ve been
@@trustme7660 sure you can we are a Species of inventors, you know monkey see Monkey do. Even the animal kingdom uses tools and they don't have any written History...
@@jamesseeker1538
Yep, just to program them how to follow rules in system and believe in all served lies, also to weaken ability to criticize authorities..when someone is brainwashed from early age it's very hard to wake him up to truth
Just ask them
You won’t be surprised to hear from them - that they had no clue these pieces even existed.
That’s why
its so amazing someone sanded this massive piece of granite by hand with an copper chisel.
We will never know what the granite boxes were used for, I could imagine a different use . I am not convinced boxes like this were used as coffins for the dead..
They were most likely used to guide their spirits to the afterlife. They were then taken out and buried somewhere else.
You are right. I see a lot of baloney in the comments that does not come above the most primitive superstition level, not different from "lightning is what you see when Thor throws his hammer from the sky". The remarkable thing is that int he old days, e.g. of Herodot and others, people were rather practical about all this. Apparently, not any more.
MAYBE A BATH TUB FOR THE QUEEN IN THE AFTER LIFE, REALLY ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE. 👍👁👁👽👽👽
Probably a chest that's been ransacked
i don't see any religious reason being enough to warrant cutting a 20 ton airtight lid off the main block to seal the enclosure. they weren't idiots; techniques that looked impressive but saved on labor were used where it was warranted. i only see functional reasons for having such things on the giant stone boxes. and since a fair number of the large stone boxes have been found submerged, it makes me wonder if that wasn't part of the original design, a box that would remain sealed under its own weight underwater. whatever originally went inside, it seems laughable to me that they could construct the great pyramid and the valley of the kings, and still feel it necessary to put 20 ton lids over bull or human carcasses. to me that says they were repurposed during dynastic times, but originally constructed for something else.
So happy you got to go back to Egypt I live vicariously through you lol. The work you do with uncharted x is just incredible your interpretation and extensive research has brought you a videos to the top of its genre I really enjoy them keep up the good work and thank you
There's a little more going on here than primitive people bashing rocks together than praying to it.
Correct. They not only had rocks for bashing together, but also copper chisels!
:D))
@@DilbertMuc lol
It was built for the queen.
Pay up commoner.
@@theman.4741 What, the Queen of Sheba.
Queen takes King, checkmate.
Don't forget the copper chisels XD haha that's the 'I don't know' answer from archeologists: 'When in doubt, say it's made with copper chisels with pounding stones and that it's either to pray to it or for astronomical purposes'
Supernatural explanations make this easy. Putting aside the restrictions of materialism opens up a whole new world of possibilities.
I'm absolutely hooked.
There's no doubt the level of sophistication was much, MUCH higher than the main stream narrative previously thought. The precision of these granite structures is mind blowing.