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- During a debate with William Lane Craig, atheist Sam Harris points out that if Islam is true, everyone in the audience will go to hell forever, yet they don't seem to be worried about that possibility. Perhaps they shouldn't be so sure that their conception of the afterlife is accurate, given their nonchalance at Islam's threats of eternal damnation.
Note: I'm not posting this video in defense of Islam. I'm an atheist, and I don't think any vision of the afterlife is correct. Some people have messaged me about this, so I just wanted to make it clear.
If reason worked on irrational people there would be no irrational people.
it does, just not on all people at all times. we have people that have left religions, that no longer believes them, because of reason.
They were simply rational people to begin with that were exposed to knowledge they did not originally possess.
Not all people that have some form of belief are irrational people ... just most.
rick sanchez c138 Yet 99 procent of top scientists are atheists. The higher the intelligence, the lesser people are religious. Fact.
@@TheMe26 yeah like the scientific fact of the moon splitting?😂😂
@@sirius190363 Proof? Because many people who contributed to science are theist, and a few number of them are member of the Church. Albert Einstein, Nikolaus Capernicus, Gregor Mendel. Some I forgot the names, the priest who studied Big Bang theory with Einstein, the Priest who formulated the scientific method. Ada, the nun which is the first female to study computer programming.
Some are secular, yes, they believe in God but dont care anyway, but its not equals to being an athiest. Again, you can send me a link of your "fact."
A man like you asked:
Ahmed deedat"how would you feel if you die and Discover that the hereafter was a lie"
Ahmed deedat:"not worse than when you die and discovered that Hereafter is the TRUTH"
My iman(believe):
"FROM" ALLAH(SWT)
"FOR" ALLAH(SWT)
"TO" ALLAH(SWT)
You mean the god who say the sun sets into a pool of murky water is true? You guys must be insane.
@Soul_Jihadi trolling? What is that? Have you found yours yet?
God said wajdha(arabic word) which means the person who was looking to the sun thought that the sun sets into a pool of murky water. I answered your concern but please also mention the other scientific facts in the quran like the big bang or that the moon reflects the sunlight and many others and please remember that all of these true scientific facts where mentioned by a man living in the desert 14 hundreds years ago so please think of it how can he know all of these facts.
@@chrischow9085 He means the God that christians changed His book that was sent down to Jesus (pbuh). The God that actually responded to christans crimes by sending again another book that can't be changed to Muhammad (pbuh).
What do christians have now? Nothing to defend themselves from Quran verses that exposed them so hard and directly with their specific names.
What christians claim as a God must send another bible to expose Quran. And that didn't and will not happen because Islam is the last religion and Muhammad (pbuh) is the last messenger.
@@kareemosama9243 Mohamed splitting the moon into two !???? Wow 😮
I think Ben Stiller is alright but his stand up is aweful...
How no one has commented on this is beyond me. I lol'd so F'ing hard.
Great joke, made me lol
Oh boy you know nothing of Sam. The most articulate persuasive debater on the subject out there. Seriously kid do your research. Start with 'Sam Harris destroys Christianity' . After you done so you'll want to delete that imbecilic comment... and learn to spell 'awful'.
Gary Edwards Zoolander gone terribly humble!
Gary Edwards 😂😂😂
There are signs everywhere for those who have eyes 👀
Is lightning the sign for Zeus?
@@chrischow9085 I believe you're thinking of Thor
@@quicktingz2097 During the Titanomakhy, after the Cyclops were released, the Cyclops were so grateful to the gods, they made gifts for them. Zeus received a bucket which would never run out of Lightning Bolts. Later, it was imbued with the power of the sky. The lightning bolt is the Symbol of Power of Zeus.
@@chrischow9085 wow I never knew that
For those who see!!
It's amazing how religion is built up on the fear of death and the afterlife
@Philip Manousakis islam is not a religion its a way of life and if there's no punishment for ppl who do wrong then ppl will do whatever they want just like there are laws bulit upon fear of going to jail is that not controlling
@@Wisdom-zv6zq plz read Quran then speak
@@azerreza446 thx i read Qur'an everyday I dont need anyone to teach me my religion I know everything the Qur'an says sir🤭
@@azerreza446 do you not agree that living in a world without consequences for actions will cause Chaos?
@@azerreza446 and what does Islam command,
Do not worship any other gods
Do not kill
Do not steal
Do not Commit adultery
Do Not lie
Do not Backbite
Do not slander
Respect your neighbors
Be good to your parents
Be good to your elders
Pick up any trash (litter) on earth
feed the poor
Do Not accuse
Be Just
Don't drink
Don't kill yourselves
Don't insult
Be Patient
Protect your family
Don't envy others
Keep promises
Love for others what u would love for yourself
Cover Your Private Parts
Dont expose your bodies in Public
Be kind to orphans
Do Not Cheat
and so much more these are the stuff islam says not to do and ppl can't follow and say oh its to much but in reality if Muslims and non Muslims followed these laws there wouldn't be so much dispute and problems on earth, but we don't follow them.
Quran
“Were they(atheists, disbelievers) created by nothing, or were they themselves the creators? Or did they create the Heavens and the earth? Nay, but they have no firm belief” (verses 52:35-36)
‘Will they not, then, try to understand this Qur’an?
Had it come from anyone other than God, they would have found in it many an inner contradiction.’
(al-Nisa 4:82)
We don't hate God just because he's the creator or we believe humans are superior. We are upset over the ridiculous stories found in the religious texts that shows barbarian behavior by this so called God and then we are fed this BS about God/Allah to be a loving God who actually cares about us, his creation. How can something so cruel but so loving not be a contradiction? How can people believe this being to be perfect when it clearly isn't? How can something so human be above us? Other than living in fear of God, there is no reason to pretend or believe that everything is great and God is great. It is very hard to see the logic with these beliefs due to insane stories that are so unnatural be taken so seriously. Fear is the only way to justify these beliefs and I refuse to live that way and I am better off for it.
7891Kman The Christians have changed there book Quran was revealed to correct it. You think God is your servant and you are the master. God owes you absolutely nothing rather you owe him. He gave you sight, hearing, life things that have countless value it can't be quantified. The very body you have his creation. And the most valuable thing he gave you is time.
14:34 Quran
"And He gave you from all you asked of Him. And if you should count the
favor of Allah , you could not enumerate them. Indeed, mankind is [generally] most unjust and ungrateful."
Life is temporary abode for man we work to establish ourselves with good work for the next life. As for cruelty and pain all those who die in natural disasters, from oppression of tyrants, the mental and children are granted paradise.
‘We have sent you to the entire mankind to give them good tidings, and warn them; but most people do not understand this.’
(Saba’ 34: 28) Quran
So the Muslim sees things totally different from the non believer. The Muslim never gets down or demoralized only for a short time even when we are struck by calamity which we see every day in Palestine, Kashmir, Iraq, Afghanistan, Muslims are tested the most by God but they hold steadfast. While the Atheist has all the great things in life but complains.
" O people, if you have any doubt about
resurrection, (remember that) we created you
from dust, and subsequently from a tiny drop,
which turns into a hanging (embryo), then it
becomes a fetus that is given life or deemed
lifeless. We thus clarify things for you. We settle
in the wombs whatever we will for a
predetermined period. We then bring you out as
infants, then you reach maturity. While some of
you die young, others live to the worst age, only
to find out that no more knowledge can be
attained beyond a certain limit. Also, you look at
a land that is dead, then as soon as we shower
it with water, it vibrates with life and grows all
kinds of beautiful plants. "
(Qur'an 22:5)
And they HAVE found in it many an inner contradiction, which is why they don't believe in it. :/
TheGiantKiller8 14:34 Quran
"And He gave you from all you asked of Him. And if you should count the
favor of Allah , you could not enumerate them. Indeed, mankind is [generally] most unjust and ungrateful."
I didn't ask for this life. No human asked to be alive. If mankind is unjust and ungrateful but were created in God's image who is suppose to be perfect but we are not perfect, how were we created in his image if one is perfect and the other is not? Also, God is invisible and we are visible so we are clearly not in his image.
Why were we not created better? How could something so powerful, perfect all knowing and so intelligent create such a nasty environment, a flawed human race, animals killing and slaying each other and the cosmos blowing up and destroying everything only to start all over again. Why bother? God created us so imperfect yet demands that we follow rules and be perfect knowing we will fail yet allows it to continue. Most creators build a prototype to test it and work out the kinks. God creates a rough draft and doesn't bother to test his creation but punishes it for it's flaws. That seems ridiculous to me.
God isn't 'just' either. Murdering people and animals by drowning them just because you want to, isn't a good reason other than he is bored and wanted something to do. If I murdered an innocent child and got away with it, is that just? Why wouldn't I be killed in return and why do we need man made government to intervene for justice?
Non believers aren't just a bunch of complainers, we are using the intelligence we have supposedly been given to question our surroundings. Why does that not apply to a deity? God created us and put us here just to praise and worship him? For what? To pump up God's ego? I didn't ask to be put here, none of us did, so why do some of us have to suffer through terrible consequences but continue to be grateful to God? Why doesn't he owe us an explanation but I have to?
If God asks me why I sinned at any point in my life, my answer is simple because you created me and everything else to be this way. Not one person in this world is perfect or has been perfect so the issue isn't with me, but instead with you (God) and your precious perfect design. Ask yourself God, you created all of this, not me. Why do stars blow up and kill everything? That isn't humanity's fault, that is God. His creation isn't peaceful 100% it is very violent and very unstable at times. Stars and the Sun don't think intelligently or have free will but will still die or kill everything near it. I bet the Sun doesn't have to ask for forgiveness for it's sins yet it has the power to one day annihilate all life and everything.
I rest... my case...
7891Kman Ok friend good post but your confusing Christian theology with Islam again. Islam came to perfect the misguided fallowes of the bible, idol worshipers and yes Atheist. The Quran literally debate with the reader. Its Gods dialogue with man. The only unchanged revelation from Allah till the end of days.
2:28 Quran
How can you disbelieve in Allah when you were lifeless and He brought you to life; then He will cause you to die,
then He will bring you [back] to life, and then to Him you will be returned.
We are not made in Gods image no one knows what he looks like. Thats why we don't make images of God or prophets, idiots think we worship the Moon because they see it on a few flags which is untrue. ALl of creation is in SUBMISSION(ISLAM) to God from the moon to sun to earth, animals, all the laws in this universe are following a decree. Only man is given the choice to submit to God alone with no partners.
qURAN
“He who obeys the Messenger, has indeed obeyed Allah, but he who turns away, then we have not sent you (O Muhammad) as a watcher over them.” [al-Nisa’ 4:80
“And We have also sent down unto you (O Muhammad PBUH) the Dhikr [reminder and advice (i.e. the Quran)],
that you may explain clearly to men what is sent down to them, and that they may give thought” [al-Nahl 16:44].
As for how we look it doesn't matter not important to God only piety and good actions. Malcolm X when he became Muslim he realized judging people on looks and color were wrong. Rather the Male grows the beard this is the sign of a man and giving up 'looks' and the girl covers for modesty and submission to God away from your whims and desires.
Lets say there is a flood and many innocent people die but God forgives all there sins and gives them ETERNAL PARADISE which is much longer than the 1-90 years you spend on this earth IT WOULD BE THE BEST BARGAIN EVER. We were informed by God that calamities are a test.
QURAN 29:2
Do people think that they will be left alone because they say: "We believe," and will not be tested?
Ok friend atleast read the first 2 chapters of the Quran peace
This comment section just made my IQ drop by 60 points XD
Seriously
I know right. A guy just said Islam doesn’t endorse eternal torture then proceeded to tell me about hell 🙄.
Your iq is already 60 that's why you will not understand thid
It's 0 then
Of course u would say this I mean look at your profile pic
I'm an Ex-Muslim Atheist from Malaysia 🇲🇾❤️.
I'm grateful I left this cult at 18,
Living the best life i always wanted ever since.
Maybe it was a cult in Malaysia.
That's brave of you, I hope your family didn't give you too much grief.
What sect were you in nihari or pulao?
@@zaidbintareq I was a Former Sunni muslim brother. How about you?
@@millennialsgenerationmalay8591 so what broke camels back?? What made you leave.
Just a different life style choice or some reason behind it ?
I still find this to be the most compelling argument against any form of theism. Even if there were a theistic god, the vast number of different gods in human history makes it statistically virtually impossible to have picked the right one. And this in itself is such an unethical premise of any theism, that it seems crazy to believe any of them. Even if there were such a thing as a deistic god, or some kind of higher intelligence or being, believing that it has contacted us through one true scripture to me is madness, and a sign of unbelievable close mindedness and arrogance.
SpiritAscent:-) nice story - thanks; & Peace
Mathijs Tieken You'd be correct if indeed "picking" the right god was like eenie meenie miney moe. I have a better idea: think about what it would mean to be the Creator of the universe and all of life on earth. Make a list of the characteristics that you imagine would logically be necessary and most befitting of this Creator. In other words, try to come up with the greatest, most sublime, most venerable, most majestic, most awe inspiring concept of God you can think of. When you're finished (and this isn't something you can do over lunch; you'd probably need to think about it for a few days, at the very least), read about the various concepts of God that various religions believe in.
I will humbly submit to you that the Islamic concept of God is that very one you might come up with, if you thought things out well. I cannot imagine or conceive of a greater God than the Islamic conception of God, and this reassures me that Islam is the ultimate truth, whereas all other religions are in some sort of error. If God created us to recognize and perceive greatness, would He not have created us to perceive Him as the greatest possible being imaginable?
A-Muslim-Guy: I thought you were going to write (after the person imagines all the wonderful traits of any Creator), to then compare that to the awful things done in the name of religion and how their all-powerful god allowed it, and then realize there are no gods, and that Allah certainly would be a bad pick of a god. Did Allah write the Koran in your opinion ? Does she (sic) know how to write ?
Zvi Benari Do the exercise I suggested. Put all your previous baggage aside. Most of it is misinformation and hatred, and it's biasing you.
amuslimguy Did the exercise, came up with the flying spaghetti monster, sorry. RAmen.
Saying "God can just do 1 sign and convince everyone in the room" is like telling your teacher to give you the answers in a test since he knows it. This is the idea and value of faith, If faith and belief comes to you on a gold plate then it loses it's value.
if there is no sign then god can't blame us for not believing.
There are signs but it's not as easy to find and believe them as people want it to be, You won't wake up in the morning and see god in front of you, There's a right balance of signs to show that Islam is right but to also make your belief and strength to not leave Islam meaningful
@@Ali-ju3xt is lightning the sign for Zeus? These arent signs dude. It is what you are willing to believe as a Muslim.
@@chrischow9085 I'm not talking about that, Things like the Quran predicting many scientific facts and many world predictions that would come true thousands of years later could not be written by some random writer in the desert
@@Ali-ju3xt Like how the sun sets into a pool of murky water? Of course it can only come from an illiterate 7th century Arabian warlord. That is exactly what we expect from him.
“…Certainly, there are signs in these matters for a people who reflect.”
-surah Ar Rum 30:21
@RELIGIONS AIN'T RACE! the hadith reference you are giving is ruled out to be unauthentic(we do not follow unauthentic hadits)
@RELIGIONS AIN'T RACE! en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_hadith_collections
All from a book which say the sun sets into a pool of murky water.
@Shine Dal garno any religion that still allows for polygamy in the 21st century has no rights for women.
@Shine Dal garno Can a women marry more than one man if she can fulfill all of his man's rights equally? That must also be better than watching porn or sleeping with man in one night stand right? Come on dude. Who are you trying to kid here. Why don't we bring back slavery as well?
“Live a good life. If there are gods and they are just, then they will not care how devout you have been, but will welcome you based on the virtues you have lived by. If there are gods, but unjust, then you should not want to worship them. If there are no gods, then you will be gone, but will have lived a noble life that will live on in the memories of your loved ones.”
― Marcus Aurelius
If god is just he would reward people that do good things because they are good and not because they expect reward(heaven) or fear hell.
That is beautiful
Who are you to tell God what to do and what not to do
@@24xv555 Į can't order him around but I can judge what kind of god he is based on his actions in your religion
That’s brilliant
@@dariusnoname12 you consider your deeds as a reward for him when in fact you are just repaying his gifts and blessings
Also if some one lent you money which you used it for charity but you never repay him
Is it fair to ask him to forgive you just you used it for other people's good?
The same concept goes here
If you worship the wrong lord you should not expect mercy or forgiveness
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Lol its sad to see these hate comments
Confusius
How is this not evil?
*Enters hell*
Me: Yo Allah. Where am I going?
Allah: hell
Me: why?
Allah: you didn’t believe in me.
Me: so? I was a vegan buddhist. I taught moral philosyphy and gave to charity every weak. Why am I going to hell then?
Allah: because you didn’t believe I was real.
Rakan Al Ajmi I tend not to answer to people with dogma.
Rakan Al Ajmi what is evil about that?
Everything. Even in the case of a murderer, I would argue eternal punishment is unjust. Some people cannot grasp ‘forever’. it’s the scariest word. Think about it for a minute.
Condemning people to infinite damnation for a finite crime and that too, just 70 years IS evil.
When you say ‘god’ which god are you talking about out of the 4000 gods that have ever existed? Obviously, deducting the hindu gods. Every religion claims to have a divine intervention behind it. Every religion relies on pathetic reinterpretions of verses and I’m not forgetting the pety laughable ‘scientific facts’. And if there’s something bad or evil in the scripture, they say it’s not ‘literal’ no, god cared more about how poetic he was and not the millions dying over the literal interpretations. atheists are those who look past the ignorance and dogma. They see bullshit and call it out. They know how to tell apart nonsense from sense. I respect them just as I respect jainism and other non violent religions whose core principle Is non violence, and I respect people’s right to choose their own religion, that said, not saying that their religion deserves any inherent respect. And I’m not an atheist. In a sense, I am an atheist, and a buddhist as well. So, thank you. Have a good rest of your day. This will be my last message to you. I hope I have made myself clear.
Peace.
@@rakanalajmi6169 I want to discuss it with you. What do you think about evolution or chaos.
@@rakanalajmi6169 it s not evil, it lacks intelligence and justification. Simply said , non-sense. You can believe anything you want. Thats why it is called belief, which contradicts knowledge until proven to be true. It s a simple distinction between knowledge (universal) and belief (individual).
muslims comments are really out of point and proves what sam said
Ok boomer
Present examples then
If you are hoping that Muslim have points you u will never satisfy
The whole argument is based on a non-nuanced, surface-level understanding of Islam
Whose understanding? The sunnis or the shiites?
Muhammad Ali Your comment is based on a zero level understanding of what he’s trying to point out
@@dziembaj lol, okay
@@chrischow9085 both
@@chrischow9085 no sunnis and shiites m8, all Muslims
May Allah guide us all to the right path.
I cannot bare the thought of dying without establishing a strong connection with my creator, Allah SWT and believing in Muhammed PBUH as Allah's final Prophet.
When I converted from Christianity to Islam 8 years ago, I felt at peace and I am feeling this peace daily even after 8 years. Life has never been better.
I just hope humanity wakes up before it's too late and that includes me because I don't want to be in a position on the day of judgement where I have regrets of not doing things right and in a higher quantity.
I say it again, may Allah SWT guide us all.
Mr Adam assalamu alaikum I read your comments really you are a man of strong faith and specially blessed by almighty allah love from india
@@squidalfa7585 It’s sad that dangerous ideologies like nihilism are becoming commonplace today. It reminds me of this verse “By the declining day, indeed mankind is in a state of loss” (Surah Asr)
@@lightscameras4166 At least we don't stone gay people to death anymore.
And not a bit of the theologies of Islam or xtianity are proven.
Please know that we are as worried about angering Allah as you are about angering YHWH of Odin or Vishnu.
What kind of signs are you waiting for, my friend? This life is your test. When you are having a test, your instructor will not give you the test answers himself. Wake up. Read Quran, and talk to people who specialize in it's meanings. The fault is yours when the truth comes to you and you reject it without your honest follow up in seeking truth.
Edit: Don't read the stupid comments. Don't write a comment on this comment because you will fall victim to Islamophobia advocates in the comments. Leave them be, you are not responsible for them. You know the truth and you know WHY you follow it. Keep your faith strong. Good luck.
Why wouldn't we reject a book which say the sun sets into a pool of murky water? Do you think that kind of nonsense came from god or an illiterate 7th century Arabian warlord?
@@christopherchow8222 which verse. Name it.
@@darajabar93 Quran 18:86. You guys should seriously read your quran.
@@christopherchow8222 i know u would talk about that verse. Seriously u r not very educated.
That verse talks about the sunset position in the perspective of where Thul Qarnain was in terms of location. For example, for me, the sun sets behind a few mountains.. Does that mean the sun will be sitting there chilling till tomorrow? Thats just sad man.
Quran talks about something that science has just reached:
خَلَقَ السَّمَاوَاتِ وَالْأَرْضَ بِالْحَقِّ ۖ يُكَوِّرُ اللَّيْلَ عَلَى النَّهَارِ وَيُكَوِّرُ النَّهَارَ عَلَى اللَّيْلِ ۖ وَسَخَّرَ الشَّمْسَ وَالْقَمَرَ ۖ كُلٌّ يَجْرِي لِأَجَلٍ مُّسَمًّى ۗ أَلَا هُوَ الْعَزِيزُ الْغَفَّارُ (5)
Do you even know the dynamics of movement of our solar system? Btw, do u know Arabic or not?
@@darajabar93 Let's just see about that shall we?
Narrated Abu Dharr:
I was sitting behind the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) who was riding a donkey while the sun was setting. He asked: Do you know where this sets ? I replied: Allah and his Apostle know best. He said: It sets in a spring of warm water (Hamiyah).
Also the quran says the sun orbits the earth and the moon emits light. Are you suggesting that Islam is an Arab religion?
To think that sometime in the future people will look back and say "Aww, they really used to believe this stuff(!)"
Exactly!!!!
That's all I wish to Humanity. That it gets to this level of intelligence someday.
i really hope so.
To think that after your death “ah if I only believed in monotheism god” remember my word
@Andrew Sullivan no he didn't.
We can argue that god's compassion is sending his message repeatedly through his messengers to guide us, which ended with the quran. And if quran verses compels you to judge it, then go ahead and put it to the test. Proof quran is wrong and be. At the end it's a free will and you're free to choose your believe, but it was your decision not god's absence of compassion towards you.
A book that say the sun sets into a pool of murky water is of course wrong.
@@chrischow9085 uh no thats metaphorical. It talks about the perspective of Dhul Qarnain of what he saw at evening. If one says i saw the sun set in the sea will you ask him if he is stupid ? Of course not because its just metaphorical not literal.
@@chrischow9085 watch this please to know th-cam.com/video/n8R2rVgD2ok/w-d-xo.html
I know right. In a verse in the Qur'an it is said that the God has shown his signs of existence already. The sun, the moon, the stars are all the signs of Allah's existence. At the end of the day it is our choice and not the absence of Allah's compassion.
@@susanstefan4614 May Allah guide you to the right path, and bless you with faith and protect you from hell fire, There have been repeated warnings from various messengers of God or Allah, There's a pattern from time immemorial, but these so called enlightened scientific people refuse to see this pattern, believing that studying science makes them superior, Science is the study of the creation of God, Science needs God, God doesn't needs science,
The very thought that how Allah or God exists is beyond us, Our minds can't wrap around that knowledge How God exists without a beginning or the end because indeed man was created weak.
"mankind was created weak"
4:28
But we need to follow the prophets that Selected it's binding upon us to follow the guidance when it comes to us through the truthful and righteous prophets (May peace be upon them all)
"So what is [the matter] with them [that] they do not believe, And when the Qur'an is recited to them, they do not prostrate [to Allah]?"
84:20-21
The answer is deep within each and every one of us, the problem is we search in a filter we made by our own thoughts; only accepting what we are hoping to find and what pleases us. Sometimes the truth is right in front of our face but we're blinded by our thoughts.
D a w s a c 👏
Can't see the forest for the trees
That means nothing, unless each one of us has the same intelligence, experiences in life, and the same influences that shape our minds and hearts and the fact is, we do not all share these aspects of life that make us "who we are". There is probably no one perfect truth that could be expected for all to find.
No, there is Truth and it is not subjective. You are talking about 'truth', the new age kind that people pick and choose for themselves and it doesn't take you anywhere unless, by it, you realise it's falsehood.
Tony Stokes I can agree with that-- there is only one Truth. I don't think it's possible to define this Truth, though. And I don't believe that anyone can prove that they know what Truth is.
if anyone saw this debate that craig guy basically just ignores everything sam harris says and talks about jesus and morality
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You're missing the meaning here, if God gave us a sign so that we all can see then what's the point, the hardship of believing in God is the uncertainty, letting go, taking the leap of faith that's what Islam is about, fun fact Islam in Arabic means "submission" we as humans do whatever we can to stay in control but if you think about it, we actually have very little control over anything at all, this kind of spirituality is felt not seen, and about the hell eternity thing I believe that we all have to search for the truth, so go read about Islam, Christianity, atheism even go through your own journey with a genuine heart, God is the MOST merceful he'll judge us according to how far we've came with our journeys to the truth, alot of people were born lived and died without knowing a word about Islam, believing that those will be thrown into hell is such a ridiculous thought and doesn't match what God says about himself in the Quran.
Every single believers claim to faith dude. If we are believing things out of blind faith then there is no reason why we would choose a religion which talks about the sun sets into a pool of murky water and God wouldn't fault us for not choosing such ignorance.
But isnt it unfair that the "so-called-only-correct-religion" is indoctrinated to only say 30% of people in world. Why should they get the unfair advantage. If god or allah is like a parent who is biased towards some of his children, he is a lousy parent.
@@shashankgupta3725 theres a few exceptions to people being punished right away, for example a person who was never sent or heard the message sent by all prophets, Islamically speaking there has been 200k+ im sure or around this area, this could include any previous figure which sent the same message but the message was eventually changed. The other type is a person who was given the wrong idea of Islam and the wrong teachings, like if an islamaphobe informed u of Islam or muslims who twist the beliefs etc, but almost all of the world to this current date has heard of Islam and has seen the correct message but choose not to fully research or reject it
@@chrischow9085 still you're talking with what you've heard from others, make a quick search on the subject, on the verses that are revolving around and seem ridiculous then you'd understand that the Quran is in Arabic language and Arabic is the most poetic and vast language on earth with Chinese, so there's alot of metaphoricals included & also put in mind the context of the verses you're talking about, I can easily get you a verse that says that God orders Muslims to kill every non believer wherever they are found, you reading that verse will definitely say that this is a God of war and hate, but if you know that the Quran is a time lapsed book meaning that verses of it were sent to Mohamed while certain events were going on then you'd understand that this specific verse meant a group of people who broke a peace treaty twice with Muslims and waged war on them, the context is everything in this case, that's exactly what isis does taking specific verses and saying it's God's words not mine without looking into them will produce hate, the same is done from the other side using the same verses to produce hate from the other side, and the only reality is both are group of extremist.
Well said.
Sam looks like Ben stiller lol
And both are jews
@@trenttyson9511 well no, he's an atheist.
It is Ben Stiller role offerings have been slim.
@@vikdaddy I think he meant ethnicity.
No. This is Zoolander.
Sam Harris always has a very good way of explaining and painting a picture he is one of the best along with Hitchens
Your Sam is ignorant about Islam and too arrogant to learn about it.
>how do I know Allah is real
>he's given you signs, infidel
>what signs
>your brain, the earth, the water
>how do I know allah made those
>because a book says so
Damn, nice argument, Muslims. Y'all sure are witty
Well, can we at least agree that a creator exists by the signs you mentioned.... So, then the next step should be to seek who this creator is and what he wants you to do. And if you are genuinely seeking the creator. You will find him. And if you are seeking an excuse to continually disbelieve, you will not bother to seek the creator.
@@muusaibnmohammed730 who created the creator and out of billion s of God's which one should we beliebe in
@@kirind.dragon1901 No one made the creator, He was always there always is and always will be. God is the one who made EVERYTHING, and therefore no one can be his creator. And the answer to your second question is: read the Noble Quran, just read it.
@@anoniem5548 if no one can create the creator the universe can also have no creator. Talk about logic. I'll give you one better. Study general relativity and quantum mechanics. Deepen your understanding of the universe.
@@kirind.dragon1901 Sorry but your argument is very illogical and then you say "Talk logically". Yes the creator has no creator, because He is the one who created everything. What does that have to do with the universe? Except that the universe was created by the Creator! And for clarity, the universe is not the creator.
If anyone is completely honest about finding the truth, they will find it.
We only see what we choose to see and we believe what we want to believe.
And yet you see what you were brought up to see or believe. If you are born into China or Japan you would be an atheist or Buddhist.
@@chrischow9085 i see you were active in this video comment section for more than two years ..!!
Isn't it time to read learn and search for truth?
Instead of making offensive comments?
@@creedexodus4345 What is an offensive comment? That people thinks that others will go to hell because they don't think a book which say the sun sets into a pool of murky water is from god? Instead of spending your life praying to a piece of stone five times a day maybe it is time for you guys to search for the truth outside of what you were brain washed to believe from young. Stop believing that people who don't share your faith deserves eternal torture based on a 7th century arabia nonsense.
@@chrischow9085 no muslim prays to a stone
@@shakk3902 You guys pray to a piece of stone in Mecca five times a day just like how the pagans was doing for centuries before ISlam was invented.
This specific debate was the last nail in my religions coffin! Thank you Sam for your help!
waitt till you find out that sam harris is full of shit
this should not be the last nail you should study islam actually only islam is right.
@@sharktv3307 how is only Islam right?
@@msdd7610 read the qurab and there are miracles in it imagine 1400 years before a man who could not read and right how can he mention in this book like for example expanding universe .barŕier between two rivers every thing is moving in the universe. Near my home there are illetrate labour people who even nothing about these things even in this'll modern era. And thete are hundreds of scientific proofs which shows that this book wiran is from our creator.
@@sharktv3307 if you throw enough butter at a wall some will stick (if you make many claims some will be true). In Hinduism they basically got the age of the world right (4.3billion years old) but obvs you as a Muslim recognise that that doesn’t mean that Hindu texts are the work of God.
Also, what are said miracles?
Didn't know Ben Stiller was a deep thinker
Not really if you actually analyse his arguments they are just poor, and from a narcissistic man child.
😂😂😂😂
They're both ashkenazi Jews. Thats where you get likeness.
🤣🤣🤣
Ben Steller is a deep thinker though
Me reading all these comments from muslims: appreciate how carefree I am. :)
Not for a too long pal, wait till death comes to you and all your carefree attitude will go away!
I couldn't focus for that left eyebrow putting in work
🤣 me too
My friend said that he left Islam after reading "Kill the infidels." He said that a true GOD would NOT tell him to kill anyone.
Show me the verse. He’s a utter idiot
@@user-oo6vr1ky5f Muhammad said "Whoever changes his religion, kill him." in a popular hadith.
also, allah is morally flawed because he continued to create a universe in which he knew the creatures within would go to hell.
Free will is irrelevant.
Safety is more important than what we want to do because what we want to do can lead us to hell.
So either he cares more about our safety and wellbeing or he lets us send ourselves to hell for doing what he already knew we'd do before anything existed, hence making him immoral because he allowed it to occur.
@@user-oo6vr1ky5f perhaps, but he transcends the morality of the quran, that does condone such atrocities and also slavery, including sex slavery.
So he went where ....? To Chiristinity..... where it advices plainly to kill ALL to not even spare donkeys huh..... Common sense has to prevail, we are talking about theological viewpoints whats is the nature of God, is His onnes compromised or not, about salvation, is there afterlife, the purpose of Human being, these are the stuff u need to look for if you lookin for the truth and real Guidance but i see jokes in Christians and athiests making mockery in Islam but the reality is the laugh is on your side ....
@@xidaarxashi9262 the muslim afterlife is an immature male fantasy. Why do you believe that? And the quran is so obviously false. Have you even read it?
Okay, I'm grabbing some popcorn here.
You've not got much time!
So do I
It’s only about 2 min so u might wanna turn to religious debates
Cough
"And We charge no soul except [with that within] its capacity, and with Us is a record which speaks with truth; and they will not be wronged." Quran 23:62
+AreKey182 Please, cut the crap.
+Ben Theredonethat show some respect to the words of Allah please evan if you do't belive it be respectfull for your self
Rose Dumiel Be respectful of your superstitions? Never.
+Ben Theredonethat ok
The amount of Islamic ilogical comments here is to damn high.
Not only that, this is how Christianity looks to someone like me who _has_ been indoctrinated into it and even became a Catholic priest trained in Rome at that, but managed to free myself from that indoctrination (though it was anything but easy).
RustyTube Would you be willing to talk about this experience? What was the transition out of the Church like as a priest?
Mike Holter Maybe some day, but not right now. I just came home from the hospital where I had some stents put into my heart arteries. Sorry.
RustyTube Hope you're healing well and feeling better. Not because I care about you, but because I want to hear your story. Ha just kidding. But seriously though your story would be a good read I reckon.
Future Proof Thank you, I’m healing fine. Still, not in the mood of talking about that. I left the priesthood and the Church back in 1990 and see no particular reason to be looking back.
RustyTube Good for you. Only reason I can think of for you to look back would be to help those whose minds are trapped and unable to break free from the shackles of religious indoctrination.
Well said, Sam Harris. And the same holds true for the dogma of many other religious groups.
@selangor- 7 whats wrong with that?
@selangor- 7 no no no American......u think Hinduism is joke........and Christian is the only true religion......get out of ur bubble mate
Sam Harris is an absolute moron.
@@arb1897 hinduism is a comic book joke
@@nightprowler6336 yeah exactly.......so is every other Religions.......and if u think it somehow still gives u peace and happiness.....then that joke is mine bruv......and one would always defend it on theirs life......so jokes on u, u r the joke
Iam Glad Comment section isn't disabled Here
This Qur’an guides the One who is righteous and preaches the good news to the believers who do what is righteous for him.هَٰذَا ٱلْقُرْءَانَ يَهْدِى لِلَّتِى هِىَ أَقْوَمُ وَيُبَشِّرُ ٱلْمُؤْمِنِينَ ٱلَّذِينَ يَعْمَلُونَ ٱلصَّٰلِحَٰتِ أَنَّ لَهُمْ أَجْرًا كَبِيرًا
There are many non righteous Muslims in the world too.
@Maged Adel You forget to quote the entire verse. Let me do that for you.
That is why We ordained for the Children of Israel that whoever takes a life-unless as a punishment for murder or mischief in the land-it will be as if they killed all of humanity; and whoever saves a life, it will be as if they saved all of humanity.1 ˹Although˺ Our messengers already came to them with clear proofs, many of them still transgressed afterwards through the land.
Dr. Mustafa Khattab, the Clear Quran
Are you the children of Israel? Or are Muslims the children of Israel? That verse is not even made for the Muslims. If deeds is all we need then religions like Islam is useless.
Do as I say and I’ll reward you, don’t do as I say I’ll torture you forever. Seems to be the most divine kind of love 🙄
I just read that God doesn't believe in god
he is god and we gonna play on his rules not ours
@@Zakiiiiiiiiiiiii315 effing true ,hes created you u play by his rule not yours lmao
He won't torture you. You will literally be separated from Him by your own choice And won't even feel the tiniest amount of grace or love. It is your choice btw.
@@Zakiiiiiiiiiiiii315 Except you don't know if there's even a god let alone what his rules are.
the comment section is full of preachers creepers lmao
Yeah, people who believe that an Arab man in the 7th century claimed to have split the moon with the help of Allah, but with this phenomenon this big and universal, no other sources mentioned it other other than Islamic sources. "But nobody knew who built the pyramids either" yes, but it's not as huuuuuge as splitting the moon, which should be a global phenomenon.
@@views-eu6tr there are many impossible things that had happened because prophet trying to show how powerful Allah was like Moses(Musa) split the Red Sea and how else would you have heard the stories other than the Quran like Christianity has the Bible which has these stories too
@@hsmd4533 prove it
@@hsmd4533 give one example of the Quran being false
The Quran and Bible are great works of Art however they are Fictional and should not be confused with Scientific Fact.
This is the weakest argument I've ever heard. So disappointing.
So you think if you are born into China and died an atheist you should be burn in hell? How is that logical?
@@chrischow9085 it's not like that, read my last comment
@@readytogo7128 it actually is.
@@chrischow9085 People all over the world from the east to the west have accepted Islam. So using geography as an excuse is a sad argument.
@@safiamansoor9787 The percentage does not lie. There are 96% Muslim in Pakistan and 1-2% in China. So it is geographical.
Francis Bacon, the famous philosopher, has rightly said that a little knowledge of science makes man an atheist, but an in-depth study of science makes him a believer in God.
There's like a million gods bro
Which god?
@@chrischow9085 The creator that created you
"SIGN"
➡
قُلْ أَرَأَيْتُمْ إِنْ أَصْبَحَ مَاؤُكُمْ غَوْرًا فَمَنْ يَأْتِيكُمْ بِمَاءٍ مَعِينٍ
Say, "Have you considered: if your water was to become sunken [into the earth], then who could bring you flowing water?"
There is no question whether Islam is true, it is the truth and the Qur'an doesn't talk about Atheism because existence of God or belief in God is inherent. This is the reason people worship idols of all kinds. Sam Harris has already booked his place in hell. There is noway he can et out of this situation but God has given everyone an appointed time, within that time limit one has to repent and mend his ways.
'There is no question whether Islam is true, it is the truth...' nice logic., I wish you no harm but with such bright insight I dare to say that hell are people of your kind. And Mr Harris is right about Islam. Where is the compassion?
Actually, there very much is a question. People question it every day. Every single non-Muslim on this planet questions it, including that growing number of Arab atheists.
Why don't we start with something simple? Explain to me why the truth claims of your religion are more valid than the truth claims of any other religion.
***** OK, fine. I have a congenital birth defect and am brainwashed. Whatever. Please answer the question. Why should any of us regard the truth claims of your religion as being any more valid than the truth claims of other religions?
***** Oh, sorry. You were replying to the original poster?
*****
If no religion is fake, they why don't any of them have any evidence supporting their claims?
And furthermore, you seem to have bought into the idea that religions make people more moral and make societies better, when there are in fact a wide variety of social ills (e.g. violent crime rates, poverty, etc.) that correlate with the religiosity of a society.
Yes, religions also do good things, but because they do bad things, then religious ideas should be subjected to the same standards of criticism that we apply to economic theories or political philosophies or scientific claims. The notion that religious ideas should be protected from any and all criticism has to end.
I cant simply worship a being with a date of birth as GOD!
I can't worship any gods because they are all fairy tales.
That is the concept of Islam. God is beyond understanding and there is nothing like him .
@@kelanitweir4994 Which means that any books or religions telling us the concept of god must be a lie.
@@christopherchow8222 why? Have you ever read the Quran just by curiosity ?
@@kelanitweir4994 If reading is a requirement your prophet would be burning in hell right now.
I want to clarify something. Atheist and Agnostics have no problem with religion. I have no problem with the idea of free will with religion and choosing your beliefs. However, the issue i have is with the punishment. How is that fair? To create a punishment so unjust to the crime. In fact disbelief is not even a crime at all. I doubt anyone would be able to ever prove that.
Hi Zak, I'm an atheist and I have a problem with the mental prison that is religion. Just thought you should consider before generalizing.
@@carlbennett2417 so you have a problem with people freely choosing a religion? You're right i shouldn't have generalised i didn't know idiots like you existed
"hold that vision in mind and appreciate how little sleep you have lost over this" + "please know that this is exactly how Christianity appears to someone who wasn't indoctrinated"
Brilliant.
Actually really dumb
@@1dadude2 if, by “really dumb” you mean ‘logically sound’, I think you might be onto something old boy.
@@1dadude2 i suppose you will have to leave it to atheists whether they think someone managed to communicate their lack of fear from hell in an effective shortcut or not.
i for one think its a nice way of getting to the point within a few sentences. you probably simply dont like the thought per se.
@@UglyRugby I mean people don’t really care until it approaches
What if the Aztec religion were real? Great Quetzalcoatl ! we're a 500 years behind on our human sacrifices
Not to mention the children we need to sacrifice to Tlaloc.
There can only be one truth. Once you confirm that truth you don't need to ask what if anymore. 1+1= 2. Once you prove that you don't need to prove everything other argument false as the proof of disproves the others. Same with religion.
@@Lutestick yeah you can be forced to believe something since you are born. Then you wont ask if its true because you are brainwashed. So arrogant of you to think islam is true, the aztecs alsi thought their religion was like 1+1=2.
@@Lutestick And I know the aztec creation story. It explains a lot more things than the islamic one.
@@hugo2871 the atheist I have delt with are some of the most ignorant and stuck up group of people. The assumptions always made are so annoyingly hilarious because you do exactly what you claim religious people do. It's pretty pathetic. What's the point to be so adamant about your position since after you die (in your perspective) you are nothing and even now your value is only subjective based on a subjective analysis method. If atheism is true your existence is meaningless so why are you so excited and so arrogant about being meaningless?
“The easy confidence with which I know another man's religion is folly teaches me to suspect that my own is also.” Mark Twain
Sam Harris picked wrong to make his point , Islam is not a religion it's a way of life.
“Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.”
Unless the truth isn't
Rivvy hhoh
no u find it but your heart is just blind
@@Zakiiiiiiiiiiiii315 your heart has eyes?
The fuk?
The knowledge is with God. He gave you the tools to find the truth. You dont need more tools to see it.
Agree completely, but can't this argument be made about the other Abrahamic religions as well?
I remember being in Sunday School as a kid, thinking how unfair it was for the Native Americans who lived before Columbus arrived, because they would have had no chance at redemption. This was actually one of the first scenarios that made me start questioning my faith
Oh yes!!!
Well then, what are your thoughts on Mazdayasna (Zoroastrianism)
You can question Bible in Christianity.After you believe Bible is the true words of eternal God, you will be baptized and become Christian, follower of Christ.Even those who are born from Christian parents can question Bible.You only become Christian when you accept Jesus Christ.
Try doing that in Islam and see if your head is still intact.
Allah’s mercy and compassion exceeds what we can imagine. Every chapter of the Quran starts with “bismillah hirrahman nirrahim- In the name of Allah, the most gracious, the most merciful”
Like how he order to kill non believers until they convert or pay the jizya? Did your god lost his power in the 7th century Arabia? Or did that came from an illiterate 7th century Arabian warlord who thinks that the sun sets into a pool of murky water?
What is the punishment for apostasy in a Islamic state where all the sharia conditions are met?
@@chrischow9085 Damn long time no see, and you still here replying to people!. Read the comment I just posted.
@@chrischow9085 quick tip
Don't enter an argument about religion. The first step is to believe that God exists, choosing the right one is another story.
Please please read the comment I posted and if you have any questions ask me straight ons.
@@shortvideos1417 Don't tell me what I can or cannot argue. And don't tell me what I should or shouldn't believe exists.
"who is jesus?" trust me islam will give you the best and the most logic answer not christian not the jew
Jesus is a Christian myth.
Jesus is a prophet of Allah ..
We(Muslims) call him prophet isa ..
And we love and respect him ...
🖤..
@@syedumair5325 Still a myth though.
@@chrischow9085 you're brain is a myth though
@Bhai Like Zues or Bhrama?
Why is everyone debating with someone that clearly has a Roblox profile picture?
You guys pray to a piece of stone in Mecca five times a day but we still talk to you.
@@chrischow9085 no to god lol not a stone
@@chrischow9085 seriously...we pray to god...ask every muslim and they will answer them too :/
@@superxomar4489 It is a stone dude.
@@UndyingGeneral Every single idol worshiper too will tell you they pray to their gods...
Eye opening the ridiculousness of religious at its core
- 0:17 That is absolutely wrong. Allah says in the Quran, Whoever has done an atom's weight of good shall see it, (7) and whoever has done an atom's weight of evil shall see it. (8) namely you will get rewarded So it does not whether you are a believer or not.
-In Islam: If you did not do anything wrong in life or did not take away others right, you will of course be forgiven by god. Allah is the most merciful.
However if you have committed crimes or hurt others, you will not go to the paradise until you get convicted, it does not matter how devoted you are or how much you believe in god.
- Another thing in islam is that you are only responsible when you know completely that Islam is the true religion, however you are rejecting it just because you want defy god or you just do not want to live the life that islam imposes upon you.
- Those who are trying and looking for the truth, will at least have excuses in the hereafter.
Allah (swt) say:
(God does not burden any human being with more than he is well able to bear)
Islam is false. Stop living in the 7th century. Get education.
@@Strugglebaddy616 dont bother. My religion also command to get education and thinking not just believing like your religion
@@roronoaengkus6631 Please, enlighten me on what exactly this religion is that you say I have.
@@Strugglebaddy616 hi, how are you
Well it literally says the disbelievers will go to hell and to fight the disbelievers until they are defeated so he's kinda right.
Just to correct.
One of prophet muhammad uncle aren't islam even in his last breath, he died as a non believer, but allah has promised him heaven for his deed.
So there is a chance for the non believer or sinner to enter heaven by a good deed he do in his life. It could be as small as just letting an animal pass the street or picking pebbles from the road.
If deeds is all it takes then Islam as a religion is totally useless.
@@chrischow9085 Humans are destined to die.Whats after this life is it nothingness or hell or heaven.Do you know why people follow prophets because they did what we cant do infront of the peoples eyes.(miracles)thats how prophets prove that their is a monotheist God.Judaism believes moses is a prophet christianity believes moses is a prophet and jesus is a messiah.Islam believes moses and jesus were prophets and all of these three religion derives from the abrahamaic faith.They all say that heaven and hell are real.So there must be an afterlife.The only different aspect is which religion is true.
@@myst1049 people back then would even believe in Zeus or Thor. These are not in anyway a measure of truth or that these are prophets. The concept of prophethood came from one source which is Judaism which Christianity and Islam copies their ideology from and call it a new religion. These are made by ignorant men from the past not that they contains an ounce of truth.
@@chrischow9085 I didnt talk about idol worship cause abrahamaic faith took over them
@@chrischow9085 You can just say that its a made up thing since you didnt read the quran nor the bible
They have eyes yet they can't see, They have ears yet they can't hear, They have hearts yet they can't understand. There are signs everywhere. You waiting for some miracle? If god comes to you and shows himself, Than what's the point of this test? Why would be even be in this world yet? Go read Qur'an once, See our miracle ❤️
Is lightning the sign for Zeus?
@@chrischow9085 🤦🏻♂️
@@wrinklebob7465 so yes? No?
@@chrischow9085 If you ask me then no. Cuz I don't believe in zeus. I believe in Allah as the only Creator.
@@wrinklebob7465 Which means that non believers wouldn't attribute those so call sings to a god they don't even believe and believers, including the polytheists, would see signs for their gods.
But the thing is, he HAS given a sign in the past that would convince everyone in the room, but most people chose not to because they are too arrogant
Is lightning a sign for Zeus?
@@chrischow9085 I'm talking about in the past. The disbelievers asked for a very specific miracle and promised to believe if allah gave then that and allah did, but they still disbelieved out of arrogance.
@@mohammedyakub3760 Did what? Those miracles written in books are what we call fairy tales. If you don't have one then your religion is just one of the many fairy tales we have on earth. Just like Zeus.
@@chrischow9085 yeah but the Greek gods where made up for example allah split the moon but scientist only noticed it recently that there when lines in the moon as if it was taken apart and rejoined.
@@rayleno9832 Which Scientists? You got that from some youtube propaganda dude. Don't be an idiot.
100000000 sheikhs and muftis preaching islam and this dude needs signs XD
There are monks and priests too. Why is it a sign just for Islam? These are sign of institutionalized indoctrination.
Any God that condemns his creation based on vague messages is not worth of worship.
This whole comment section lowered my IQ by 75% 😂🔫
That's terrible! - considering that you started with an IQ of 100.
@@jmb4969 wow that was funny I’m dying hahahahah😐
Thanks for taking the brain fog risk. Perhaps you should run for office.
So it's 0 now
They ask for signs yet the signs are in plain sight. Allah says look at the sun the moon the mountains the earth laid down for you and when the earth is dry and dead, there comes rain to bring it alive. Haven't you been shown enough? Isnt the designer of the universe too great to have a begotten son? U say Allah can change it in an instant then what will be the point of free will? Are ur eyes blind? Or is it ur hearts that are blind?
Muhammad Hassan-there is no such thing as free will.
@@joshboston2323 u can literally decide to do whatever you want , what do u mean? The future is known by God but He doesn't make the decisions for us he just knows the decisions that we shall choose. It is like he has seen the future not enforced it.
Muhammad Hassan-nope. It’s quite clear. You can do what you want but you can’t want what you want. All your actions are based on your thoughts and impulses which you do not control. Do you know what you think next? Are you the author of your thoughts? Are you the author of your feelings? You are the mere witness of them. If you don’t know what it is you will think next, where is your freedom of will?
@@MuhammadHassan-vx7eo Then why the need to test us? If he already knows who is going to hell and who is not
Your argument could literally apply to any made up being. You could say the same argument for The christian God, or Santa or a spaghetti monster. You don’t prove something exists by pointing to things that do exist. Thats crazy. You need a better argument.
My parents were Catholic, so naturally I was raised Catholic. The parish priest just couldn’t understand when, at a young age, I suggested that if I’d been born in Saudi Arabia I’d have been Muslim. I just couldn’t understand how a parish priest could be quite so stupid and not see what was obvious. A prerequisite of organised religion is that “our religion is the one true religion” and everybody else is damned. You’re either with us or against us. Classic manipulation behaviour - great rewards or terrible punishments; you choose.
@@rahimerayane4298 I respect your views as well, though I wasn’t saying I was born Muslim. What I was saying was that wherever I’d been born I would naturally have followed and believed the religion my family brought me up in. I’m involved in a secular organisation that helps with speech difficulties and it’s heartwarming to see people from many different countries and beliefs all working together and helping each other regardless of race and religion.
@@neildesperandum6114 Hey,
Maybe you didn't understand what I mean exactly, I mean every human is born a Muslim by nature I mean every child is born in a pure, natural state and in a state of spiritual purity and with the knowledge of the creator and God’s oneness but through his upbringing, his parents and the allure of worldly pleasures and through his society and environmental influences that this God-given nature changes and may corrupt him and is perverted to other beliefs and is perverted to a pevert person and to bad thoughts and to bad beliefs and turn a child away from the pure, natural state, so it is us who corrupt our selves, so Left to their own, children will grow up instinctively seeking the one true God.
@@neildesperandum6114 i like what you are doing in the organisation which helps with speech difficulties, I'm really appreciate such as charities works
many People have progressed from blindly following someone who speaks in the name of god to blindly following someone who speaks against it
Wow, a deep thought THANKS FOR SHARING it
If people can progress whether or not they blindly follow a religion it would certainly make the following part useless right?
@@chrischow9085 it should have been "progressed"
@@AJ-js1hr You can't use that after the word can. or could or shall or should etc.
@@christopherchow8222 what do you think?
do You think it's progress or not?
God has given us a sign; he has given us his son.
Isn't god to be workshipped or his son?
Mohammed Nihal k t
Yes, they are one in the same.
I don't know what to say bro ,keep faith in God he will never let u down
Mohammed,
Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him.
John 14:6-7 KJV
@@nihalkt2741 Make dua for him
DON’T READ THE COMMENTS. You’re IQ will drop. There is so much bias, confusion, hate, ignorance, and confirmation bias down here...
So ridiculous that people believe in some celestial dictator, of any sort.
Qur'an [45:3,4,5,6,7,8]
Indeed, within the heavens and earth are signs for the believers,And in the creation of yourselves and what He disperses of moving creatures are signs for people who are certain [in faith], And [in] the alternation of night and day and [in] what Allah sends down from the sky of provision and gives life thereby to the earth after its lifelessness and [in His] directing of the winds are signs for a people who reason,These are the verses of Allah which We recite to you in truth. Then in what statement after Allah and His verses will they believe?
You forget to mention it also say the sun sets into a pool of murky water. Isn't that what we expect from an ignorant 7th century Arabian warlord who thinks that the earth is flat? Why would we believe that it came from god when we aren't brain washed from young to believe it like you did?
@@chrischow9085 No it is not there and I hope the best for you that you will get out of this irrational hatred against Islam. May Allah guide you to the right path.
@@orbachinpothik3279 hatred? Lol read your Quran for goodness sake. It's in Quran 18:86 in case your don't know. While Islam brands me an infidel or kafir you want to tell me about who is hating who I mean seriously.
FYI: There's a story about Moses in Quran in which his mentor murders a child for the sin he hasn't commited yet: leading his parents to atheism, in the FUTURE! At the end, moses in convinced that was the right thing to do.
Religious people usually don't read, and rarely think critically.
If religious people could think critically they wouldn't be worshiping Bronze Age fairy tales and desert nomad ghost stories.
Source????
@@IqbalIqbal-kx9pf Surat Al-Kahf aya 74. The fact that a Muslim is asking an atheist for the resource proves my point.
Moses did it as an order from God. And from each verse in the Quran, we take a lesson. And the lesson taught here is that what God ordered Moses prevented something worse.
The boy was not going to just become a disbeliever; he was also going to transgress and become the cause of his parents’ doom.
Read again from the verse you mentioned. From Kahf (70-85).
Verse 80. And as for the boy, his parents were believers, and we feared that he would overburden them by transgression and disbelief.
He would overburden them not only by disbelief, but also transgression.
The following is from the classical commentary Ibn Kathir:
Qatadah said, "His parents rejoiced when he was born and grieved for him when he was killed. If he had stayed alive, he would have been the cause of their doom. So let a man be content with the decree of Allah, for the decree of Allah for the believer, if he dislikes it, is better for him than if He were to decree something that he likes for him.'' An authentic Hadith says;
(Allah does not decree anything for the believer except it is good for him.) And
Allah says:
(and it may be that you dislike a thing which is good for you.) (2:216)
(So we intended that their Lord should exchange him for them for one better in righteousness and nearer to mercy. ) A child who was better than this one, a child for whom they would feel more compassion. This was the view of Ibn Jurayj.
So the main message of these verses is to be content on God’s decree. The boy who was killed will go to paradise for his innocence at that time. Had he lived longer, he would have caused trouble for his parents.
Also note that this was an order from God for a specific instance. It is not an order which we follow. The reason as I mentioned was to teach us a lesson on decree. The two other actions of Khidr (A..S) mentioned here (in Surah Kahf) also teach us about decree: the fixing of the wall and damaging the boat.
@@hishamawan16 Typical distorted interpretation. The lesson here is this: we've got no choice in life and our faits are sealed. Allah knows what we're gonna become and brings us sinners into a life which will definitely end in eternal suffering and pain. He creates us to suffer. This is contradictory to Quran's claim that he is compassionate and merciful.
Most muslims don't think critically, hence they'll always remain Muslims.
Brief, accurate and to the point. How can you worship a god that wiped out every living being, apart from 1 selected family, because they had developed their own minds and be so brainwashed you don’t see this as evil.
How is that an argument? You dont even have a standard to say what is good or bad. Unless you believe in God everything you say is subjective
Muslims, quoting the quoran is not evidence of God. Saying that signs of God are everywhere is not signs.
Saying Allah is amazing is not evidence.
Why did Albert Einstein said that "the more I study science the more I believe in God" ?
Did he win the Nobel prize for that quote?
@@chrischow9085 you really did 1k comments from replying to muslims, huh?
@@branddriftenroll4496 Is that not allowed? This is youtube not Iran or Pakistan.
@@chrischow9085 you do you. I just think its a pain
@@branddriftenroll4496 of course you do. That is why islamic countries can never have free speech.
Qur'an 17:15
Whoever chooses to be guided, it is only for their own good. And whoever chooses to stray, it is only to their own loss. No soul burdened with sin will bear the burden of another. And We would never punish ˹a people˺ until We have sent a messenger ˹to warn them˺.
Your quran also say the sun sets into a pool of murky water.
@Maged Adel I don't have a Bible. You have now the HAfs Quran which is from Hafs which is an unreliable source. And it is still a book which say the sun sets into a pool of murky water.
@@chrischow9085 illiterate bastard has appeared lol...i know about the verse...read it again illiterate of course only if you can read....it is not the claim of quran...it is the vision of king julkarnine....this verse describes his vision....educate yourself first
@@randomsports5247 lol illiteracy is the last insult I expect from Muslims who is following an illiterate. Let's hear it from him.
Narrated Abu Dharr:
I was sitting behind the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) who was riding a donkey while the sun was setting. He asked: Do you know where this sets ? I replied: Allah and his Apostle know best. He said: It sets in a spring of warm water (Hamiyah).
@@chrischow9085 that's why you are illiterate... This hadith is not authentic lol...you don't find anything in quran and in sahih hadith now you are searching those weak hadiths...i even don't know the name of this book lol...get lost illiterate... Argue with an authentic thing... By the way are you christian??
Thank you Sam Harris for the sane reasoning in times now when Afghanistans women and reasonable thinkers need our help most.
No, these are the faults of American imperialism. Before the US supported the Muhajadeen, men and women were equal under Afganistan's communist government. (As were Iranian women of all stripes under Zoroastrianism, prior to the Islamic conquest, but I digress)
@@TheMilitantMazdakite no chance in hell. Yes the west fucked up royally, but blaming the plight of these nations solely on the sides that the US backed is fallacious and ridiculous. Iran and Afghanistan were secular exactly because the west controlled them and when the cry against “colonialism” and independences happened that is when these countries became theocracies, also look at the birth rate of your favorite religions, it is a virus that spreads and spreads. As the secular Afghanis moved to the Us Europe Turkey and Israel, the poor and ignorant population having 10 babies each spread their ideology. That is the general story of all the muslim states of today, and christian states of the past. They spread their religion and theocracy through sword and Empire.
This is a quick summary about Islam and some of the reasons why we as muslims believe that it is the truth.
Allah is one. He is perfect, most powerful, most merciful, knows everything, eternal. He is the creator not the creation. There is nothing like him. He does not have children, neither does he have parents. He does not have a gender, he is not a man or a woman. He is not a man that he is going to feel hungry, thirsty or need to go the toilet or require to go to sleep and rest, he is above of all this.
This great creator is not like an absent father. Adam was the first man and prophet of god and god appointed messengers throughout history, for example Abraham, Moses who was given the Torah, Jesus who was given the injil. God gave the same core message to all these prophets to the community they were sent to, to worship god alone without any partners and to follow the messenger of your time. However these messengers were only sent to to a specific community at a specific time. The revelation that was given to these messengers are lost or corrupted by men. God appointed Muhammad as the final messenger with the same core message as all these other prophets and was given the final revelation called the Quran. Since this is the final message, this scripture is for the whole of mankind unlike the previous prophets who were only sent to their community during a specific time.
All prophets were righteous people and were given miracles to prove that they are messengers of god. Prophet Muhammad's main miracle is the quran, you can verify this miracle unike miracles that were given to previous prophets as you were not there to witness it.
The quran is the only preserved scripture that claims to be from god and prophet Muhammad is the only messenger to claim to have come for the whole world. Allah promises in the quran that he will preserve and protect the quran. When the quran was first revealed to Muhammad from god, he memorized and told his companions to memorize it. Today alone, we have millions of muslims that have memorized the whole quran. We have kids as young as 6 that have memorized the whole quran. Allah even says in the quran that he has made this revelation easy to be memorized. If we were to throw all the religious scriptures in the ocean, the only book we can bring back is the quran because we have it memorized by millions of muslims. I would challenge anyone to find me one christian that has memorized the whole bible. We also have manuscripts that have been radiocarbon dated to the time that Muhammad was alive. For example, "the birmingham quran manuscript" that was recently discovered in the last decade in the university of Birmingham in England.
Allah gives falsification tests. Allah says in the quran that if you believe that the quran is from other than the one true god then produce a book like it. Allah also says that if you think this is from other than allah then you should be able to find within it errors/contradictions/discrepencies.
Islam gives the best way of life and I challenge anyone to give a better way of life. For example, it prohibits 5 poisions that are destroying societies: gambling, alcohol, drugs, sexual immorality and interest (interest in the context of mortgages and loans). We have politicians educated at the best university possible but they can not provide guidance and a way of life better than a goat herder 1400 years ago that has solutions to the poisions that are destroying socieities today and instead encourage it and profit out of them.
The quran contains scienctic facts and prophecies.This is just one example of scientific fact found in the quran. To suggests that the facts mentioned in the quran is a coincidence when it has been demonstrated to be correct over and over again is absurd and delusional. Also to say the quran copies from the greeks is also absurd because there are things that the greeks were wrong about which the quran gets right. Also if it copied from the greeks then it would have copied the the things that they got wrong too but that is not the case. www.webpages.uidaho.edu/~msa/tour/ch1-1-a.htm video version: th-cam.com/video/sYajKl-Xr6c/w-d-xo.html You can find other examples from the above website.
We can also look at the the life of prophet Muhammaad and can rule out that he was crazy, liar, delusional, deceived and therefore the the only possible explanantion remaining is that we has indeed who he claim to be, the final messenger of god. The sayings and teachings of Muhammad (hadiths) is also more preserved than any history book due to the way it has been preserved. As Sherlock Holmes says: “Once you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, no matter how improbable, must be the truth.”
Islam is simple, makes sense and it fits in with your natural inclination that you were born with. For example, a god that is not like an absent father and sent messengers with the same core message and does not switch up the message and confuse people. He is not ethnocentric where he believes that you have to be born from a patriculour tribe or nation to be saved. He does not punish someone unless the message has been sent to them through messengers and prophets. Everyone is born sinless, a kid is not held accountable for his actions untill he reaches the age of majurity and understanding, neither is a person who is mentally unwell. The main beliefs in Islam is to believe in the one true god, his angels, his messengers, revelation that was given to these messengers, destiny, day of judgement and life after death. Allah warns us about eternal hellfire and gives us glad tidings of the opportunity to live eternally in paradise by worshipping him alone without any partners and following and obeying the messenger of your time. Islam is simply the submission of will to the one true god, a person who does this is called a muslim.
Free physical copy of the quran: iera.org/shop/the-clear-quran/
Read the quran online for free: www.quran.com
Here are some channels you can watch to learn more about Islam and how it compares to other religions and beliefs such as christianity, athiesm etc.
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Those are what you believe to be true not proof that they are.
And yet till this day this guy believes in Santa Claus
Actually he doesn't.
@@chrischow9085 he does bitch
@@rayleno9832 He doesn't dumbass.
@@rayleno9832 give us a source that he does
You want to know just a gist of Allah’s compassion? The fact that He allows people like you to question it in the first place! #ponder #reflect
Even in the past when the quraish disbelievers asked mohammad for a sign , mohammad was given the ability by god to split the moon in half , and when the quraish disbelievers saw this , they said that mohammad was a sorcerer . No matter how many signs you reveal , there is always a number of people who are too stubborn to accept these signs and believe
Sahih International:
"Indeed, those who disbelieve - it is all the same for them whether you warn them or do not warn them - they will not believe. Allah has set a seal upon their hearts and upon their hearing, and over their vision is a veil. And for them is a great punishment."Albaqara 2:7,8
The only thing that stops people from accepting Islam is because Islam preaches against many of their desires that they are not willing to give up, and that is what the test is, to see if you will give up your desires. If Allah showed miracles, you would instantly believe, but it wouldn’t be your choice because you’ve already seen it.
Like what? Polygamy or that men can inherit more than twice his sisters could? Or perhaps the 72 virgins if you blew yourself up?
He is waiting for a sign? He is not gonna believe if he would see hundreds of them , you would say that's just an illusion.
The thing is logical, that is recompense
Perhaps he should be a little less subtle then. Tell him something that will happen to the next to prove he is real.
@@stevescoffee8325 thats not gonna happen, and the reason he is born in the wrong families as he said its a consequence of his own people that did something wrong ages ago with that being said he and a lot of other people should be less ignorant in order to see and to know about the great signs that ALLAH have brought to us.
@@shkumbinzeqiri8121 Like a book which say the sun sets into a pool of murky water? That is a sign that it came from an illiterate 7th century Arabian warlord.
@@chrischow9085 may Allah guide you my fellow human.
@@shkumbinzeqiri8121 I wasn’t born into the right culture, how can Allah still guide me?
This is why I’m an agnostic. I don’t know and since we can’t know, there’s no reason to take a stand on the issue, because if your wrong your going to Hell (or whatever). So I prefer neutrality, and at least I hopefully won’t get punished as severely as the atheists or heathens. 🤷♂️
Well agnosticism refers to knowledge and since no one knows, everyone on Earth is an agnostic. You just either an agnostic theist or agnostic atheist.
Well then mathematically you are on the losing side .
@@zaidbintareq Number of believers isn't an agruement for thr validity of theism. Thinking it is, is a falacy.
What if we can know? This way you will be on the losing side either way, so how about you decide to search for the truth. If u find it before u die them great, and if u didnt, the chances of u not being punished will increase bcz u are searching and doing the work. Its about your intention. Okay so there is a story a like in islam which is that a man has committed the biggest sin and killed, not just one person but 99 people. That guy had a vip ticket to hell, right? But he decided that he wants to repent but didnt know how or what to do but he went on a path to find the truth and repent, after he barely started that path, in the very beginning of his path, he died. But his intentions was that he wants to be good and repent, so he was forgiven and saved from the punishment.
So my advice to you, keep searching for the truth even if it takes ur whole life bcz ur whole life could end right now, u never know. And its better safe when sorry when we are talking about eternal suffering🤷🏻♂️ i wish you luck on your path if u choose to take it
@@salimmassarani2956 1. You have no more evidence of Allah, as there is Thor, Anubis, Zeus, Jesus and any other mythology. You can't say serving your god is any more rational to serving any other, in fact it's more rational to worship none since you shouldn't believe with no evidence. They can't all be right, but they can all be wrong.
2. That story is rather vile if it is true, it means a murderer gets off free for repenting without even producing results when a moral person that simply doesn't bend over to stroke a gods ego gets infinite torture regardless of the moral life they lived. That is not a moral god, in fact it is a very immoral and evil god, that cares only about rewarding slaves rather than rewarding the good, moral people. In the same logic, according to the myth of Christianity, Anne Frank is in Hell for not accepting Jesus, while the mass murderer Dalmer is in Heaven because he was "saved" in prison before his death. If a truley good god existed, it wouldn't need followers at all.
What more a sign do you need when you’ve admitted it yourself? No one is stopping you from proceeding to practice Islam and studying the Quran. Allah tells us this about you, if only you knew. The choice is yours but the decision belongs to Allah. Salam 🤲🏽
No one is also stopping you to be a polytheist either.
@@chrischow9085 Polytheism doesn't make sense on a logical level. God has to be all-powerful, but there can't be two "all-powerful" beings, because it would defeat the very purpose of being "all-powerful".
@@jeejee9427 Whether it is one unicorn or a hundred it is still a fairy tale. There is nothing logical about a supernatural magic being.
@@chrischow9085 Oh look, I try to make a coherent explanation on why polytheism can't be compared to monotheism and what do I get in return ? Mockery. I wasn't expecting much from you, but you still disappointed me.
@@jeejee9427 So you think that Zeus or Thor isn't fairy tales? Mockery? LOL Whether it is one god or a thousand gods they are all fairy tales. Are you mocking polytheism when you think their gods are not logical or real? If you are not strong enough for comments then I suggest not coming here.
This is Sam Harris before Trump turned him into a Pumpkin. Brilliant.
It is Allah who guides you just have to open your heart and want the truth
His not doing a good job.
True
Bravo.
@@chrischow9085 Everything He does is perfect but in regards to our world then it is upto us. We have free will but it will always be limited to whatever Allah has predetermined. That being said, you can't blame Allah on the day of Judgement when you chose not to believe in what came to you.
@@MB-tb6jy in your world we are just puppets playing out your god's divine plan. However we try it is already scripted. So the person with the script is to blame not the puppets.
Allah's passion is in keeping you alive everyday when he can take your soul away and let you suffer forever.
"We will show them our signs in the horizon and within themselves until it becomes clear to them that it is the truth"
All coming from a book that say the sun sets into a pool of murky water.
@@chrischow9085
Says someone who doesn't know the language, get a life or learn the language
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@@Eschton23 lol if you tell me that after 1400 years I still have to understand the Qur'an using the classical Arabic language then I must conclude that the Quran was made for the Arabs of the 7th century. I seriously hope you aren't saying that for your sake. Let's see what your prophet thinks of the verse.
Narrated Abu Dharr:
I was sitting behind the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) who was riding a donkey while the sun was setting. He asked: Do you know where this sets ? I replied: Allah and his Apostle know best. He said: It sets in a spring of warm water (Hamiyah).
@@chrischow9085 that quote isn't even from the Qur'an. Its a hadith. That too a weak one. But u wouldn't know anything better thank copy paste 😂. And u r replying to every comment that is islamic.. obsessed much?
@@johnwickk99 So your prophet must be obsessed with non believers by spending his last ten yeas of his life killing non believers. Let's see what your quran says.
Pickthall: Till, when he reached the setting-place of the sun, he found it setting in a muddy spring, and found a people thereabout. We said: O Dhu'l-Qarneyn! Either punish or show them kindness.
Yusuf Ali: Until, when he reached the setting of the sun, he found it set in a spring of murky water: Near it he found a People: We said: "O Zul-qarnain! (thou hast authority,) either to punish them, or to treat them with kindness."
Shakir: Until when he reached the place where the sun set, he found it going down into a black sea, and found by it a people. We said: O Zulqarnain! either give them a chastisement or do them a benefit.
Muhammad Sarwar: to the West where he found the sun setting into a warm source (spring) of water and a people living near by. We asked him, "Dhu 'l-Qarnayn, you may punish them or treat them with kindness?"
Mohsin Khan: Until, when he reached the setting place of the sun, he found it setting in a spring of black muddy (or hot) water. And he found near it a people. We (Allah) said (by inspiration): "O Dhul-Qarnain! Either you punish them, or treat them with kindness."
Arberry: until, when he reached the setting of the sun, he found it setting in a muddy spring, and he found nearby a people. We said, 'O Dhool Karnain, either thou shalt chastise them, or thou shalt take towards them a way of kindness.'
Dear Muslims,
"Lakum dinukum waliyaddin".
(sorry if this romanised isn't perfect). I'm sure you understand the meaning.
Let's ALL live in peace. Aamiin3.
Why are there so many defenders of Islam listening to an atheist if they are so convinced of their moral superiority
😂😂
Im muslim and listening to atheist a lot
What is the problem was that i just listening nothing more nothing less
Hold to forgiveness; command what is right; But turn away from the ignorant. (Surah Al-A‘raf, 199)
When do we get to the part where the Quran say the sun sets into a pool of murky water? Too ignorant to quote?
@@chrischow9085 Send verse number if you are truthful
@@chrischow9085 Humans critcizing words of God because they didn't understand. Surprised !
@@ahsanhassan7065 Quran 18:86 you guys should really read your Quran...
@@chrischow9085 [And he marched westwards] till, when he came to the setting of the sun, it appeared to him that it was setting in a dark, turbid sea; and nearby he found a people [given to every kind of wrongdoing]. We said: "O thou Two-Horned One! Thou mayest either cause [them] to suffer or treat them with kindness!" Quran 18:86
He says, why don't Allah send down something that will convince us all.
He sent down the Quran.
Your god send down a book that say the sun sets into a pool of murky water? He must be an idiot of a god.
Simple. The fact that you have the ability to question your lifestyle and your choice in life is proof enough that you have the understanding of distinguishing whether what youve discussed is either the truth or a lie. So can you then say that GOD has not show you compassion even though he has clearly given you the ability to reason?
I'M SORRY WHAT?!
@@w.8424 read it again but read it slowly.
Your statement is under the premise that a GOD is behind the faculties of reason and thought. Can you show in any reasonable way that it is? Consider the case of people who have underdeveloped faculties, your GOD's compassion fell short there didn't it? Or does he have a list of people he should excuse because he was on short supply of brain supplies?
@@MyNameIsThe_Sun yes please do consider the case of those who have underdeveloped faculties.
Can you share yours with them and perfect them?
It's a clear sign that whatever you have, you are not the owner of it.
Who said that God is always compassionate?
Of course He is compassionate, but not in the way you interpret.
The same compassionate God who has bestowed some with greater faculties and some not is going to take all of them in death.
Then would you ask why a compassionate God is bringing death to every one?
If you want to know who God is and understand His attributes, read Quran, the last Book of God on earth.
You are creating an illogical and false image of god in your mind and refuting it.
I don't know where you got this information of illogical compassion.
Firstly, God is the owner and creator and destroyer of whatever that exists.
May Allah guide us.
@@mohammedkhasim3985 my point is that if a God as you describe exists, its one that considers the deaths of millions of infants across the globe caused by starvation and what not, redeemed by the death of us all in the end? Neither is there no reason to believe in such a shady being, its not one I'd ever pray to should it exist. Which I'm relieved, doesn't. Besides the poetic effect of it all, what evidence can you provide for such an existence?
Muslims, give me one solid, indisputable answer that islam is the right religion and that the koran is directly from god. I have yet to see a argument from y'all that dosen't have fallacious reasoning present.
“Mis led by science?” I love how these atheists simply ignore science in the Quran in their search for truth. What a joke.
Like how the sun sets into a pool of murky water?
@@chrischow9085 the murky water verse is in reference to dul qarnane, the body of murky water he is referring too is the sun set over the Black Sea....but of course you atheists or whatever you maybe simply will not understand or lack the capacity to think
@@goonzsquad1 Really? let's see about that.
Narrated Abu Dharr:
I was sitting behind the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) who was riding a donkey while the sun was setting. He asked: Do you know where this sets ? I replied: Allah and his Apostle know best. He said: It sets in a spring of warm water (Hamiyah).
@@chrischow9085 lol give me Quranic verse I said not some Hadith that could be fabricated
@@goonzsquad1
either way dude it is a fairy tale ignorance.
Pickthall: Till, when he reached the setting-place of the sun, he found it setting in a muddy spring, and found a people thereabout. We said: O Dhu'l-Qarneyn! Either punish or show them kindness.
Yusuf Ali: Until, when he reached the setting of the sun, he found it set in a spring of murky water: Near it he found a People: We said: "O Zul-qarnain! (thou hast authority,) either to punish them, or to treat them with kindness."
Shakir: Until when he reached the place where the sun set, he found it going down into a black sea, and found by it a people. We said: O Zulqarnain! either give them a chastisement or do them a benefit.
Muhammad Sarwar: to the West where he found the sun setting into a warm source (spring) of water and a people living near by. We asked him, "Dhu 'l-Qarnayn, you may punish them or treat them with kindness?"
Mohsin Khan: Until, when he reached the setting place of the sun, he found it setting in a spring of black muddy (or hot) water. And he found near it a people. We (Allah) said (by inspiration): "O Dhul-Qarnain! Either you punish them, or treat them with kindness."
Arberry: until, when he reached the setting of the sun, he found it setting in a muddy spring, and he found nearby a people. We said, 'O Dhool Karnain, either thou shalt chastise them, or thou shalt take towards them a way of kindness.'
"What if Islam is True? - Sam Harris"
Do you mean " what if NO is YES"?
No, that cannot be true.
do resarch
you are a blind believer
God had given u intelligence brain eyes to see and determine do RESEARCH, let not ur prejudices stand u against the TRUTH ...
Full moon can be seen, but from my window only.
To be fair not all religious people believe it is so easy to get to hell. Some Christian sects believe disbelievers cease to exist in the afterlife. Some Muslims argued something similar. In Islam, it is debated what it means to get the message.