Actually, the "conversion" aspect of elephants in the game is quite representative of real elephants being used in battle. There are many reported cases of war elephants attacking the army they were supposed to help. One of the strategies used to counter elephants in real life was to force them to turn around so they would attack their own army. Mahouts often carried a chisel and a hammer to kill the elephant in case that happened.
Yes, yes, have you seen Ordos converting unit in Dune 2? Its shooting cans of colour on the enemy and enemies has to change their allegiance depending on their colour :3
>me reading the strategies described here< _"One of the strategies used to counter elephants in real life was to force them to turn around so they would attack their own army. Mahouts often carried a chisel and a hammer to kill the elephant in case that happened."_ Me: Oh, God! No! :( _"QI mentioned setting pigs on fire and sending those against the elephants."_ Me: JESUS!! D8
I think the elephant in the room is the fact that instead of making a brand new game and updating the system, they just keep adding content to an older title haha
Wow, and I actually though I was the only one. I don't play AoE but get hyped when he releases a new video. I think it's something about his voice and the lack of tryhard puns and jokes and bs that are in other YT channels, it's quite pleasing to hear.
Anantha Narayanan they pushed the Camels as a replacement for Knights for the Indians, but I would like for them to recieve Battle Elephants too, maybe without the Elite upgrade.
Well, I totally agree with you. Probably, they could be made the only civilization with all 4 stable options (lacking Paladin and Imperial camel). As per the game (Prithviraj), we Indians did not have camels (for warfare, probably, but for trading). We had good horsemen and the best Elephants (the persians derive their elephants from India, written in history section). And Indians get the silly Elephant Archer, without Trample or Splash damage, and slower ROF than archers. Edit: no gunpowder also at that time. Maybe give the Imperial Camel to the Saracens, who lack the Cavaliers. The higher HP of Imperial Camel + Zeolatry is balanced by lack of basic armor.
There is nothing more fun than managing to get about 10 really early Malay elephants out, and let your opponent watch in horror as they trample over their small defense force and proceed to flatten their town center. It is crazy how much damage they can dish AND take compared to knights of equal cost.
@@foodforthought6960 The Malay research Age technologies faster, so they can reach the Castle Age and unlock Battle Elephant production very quickly. I don't know for certain if Malay have the best Fast Castle->Elephant Rush, but they seem like the best candidates for the strategy due to the faster Age techs and cheaper Battle Elephants.
Honestly youre the most relaxing speaker I can find, I love AOE2 and I love how much you do to make these videos informative. Nothing makes me happier than seeing new videos in my subscribed feed.
Re; humans outrunning elephants: Humans are actually one of the few creatures capable of running their prey to death. Human legs are designed for energy efficient running, and humans' ability to sweat from almost everywhere on their body allows them to quickly dissipate heat. Humans aren't the fastest runners, but we can run for longer and farther than most other animals before needing to rest. Look up the Man versus Horse Marathon, the 22 mile/35 km race that pits runners against riders (it's in Wales). Those riding horses have won most of the time, but a few times the runner on foot has managed to win, and it's usually when the race happens on a hot day (dat heat dissipation yo). If the race were much longer, it's likely the humans would beat the horses more often.
Humans outrunning elephants? elephants charge faster than humans run, and if the elephant is trying to kill you, stamina becomes irrelevant because you're NOT going to stay ahead of it long enough for the elephant to gas out.
An elephant chasing you is not going to end up in a marathon though. It would be a matter of a few minutes at most. Your only chance is to hide somewhere, because outrunning it is impossible for a human.
I was just rewatching old Spirit vids to sate my addiction, and lo and behold, a new one comes out... *injects math into bloodstream* MMMMMM yeah, that's the stuff...
I'm glad you talked about elephant facts. As someone who has spent quite a bit of time in Africa, it's frustrating how slow elephants are in AOE2. They are generally not aggressive, but they are territorial. I've been chased by elephants and if I was not in a vehicle I would be dead. They can run a LOT faster than humans.
so is it now lore confirmed that persians train super smart elephants that can go to war on their own without the need of a rider? i always thought the rider was not there to keep the game simple( like boats or siege weapons)
historically, elephants mostly weren't rode. At least not in ancient times. What you would do is have them go into panic mode and unleash them on the enemy army, hoping that they would trample the enemies to death. But they would kill many of your own soldiers in the process as well.
Spirit, your videos are more interesting and informative than ever. Not to say they ever weren't interesting and informative, but that they're even better now! Also, I found myself pausing to read the elephant facts. MORE PLEASE.
I really look forward to a civ overview for the Burmese! I've really been enjoying playing them, but I know a video from you will take my strategy to the next level. Love your videos Spirit of the Law, thanks for all the hard work :)
Spirit of the Law for the win! Everytime there's an upload it's an instant watch for me and I don't even play AoE 2. I might just play it for the campaign!
I loved thos little "Elephant Fact" observations you kept popping up. They were amazing! XD WOW! I didn't even knew there was ANOTHER Expansion planned after Age of Forgotten Empires. Jesus! These guys just won't stop ever! 8D
Why would you use Conquistadors against Elephants, when you have Spanish Inquisition in the first place and only Malay gets Heresy? Unless they have Teutons as an ally in team games, these civs are not making any elephants against Monk civs, mainly the Spanish :-D.
Can we expect any civilization overviews from RotR anytime soon? Would love to see a Burmese overview and learn a bit about how the Arambai unit stacks up against everything else
Honestly before I found your channel I didn't really pay attention to order of things and upgrades I just upgraded everything and didn't really get AS much out of the game before I found all the testing you do for all of us and I love it! but with that being said can you please please do more expansion videos thaaaaaaanks!!!!!!
it's still so crazy to me a game this old is getting expansions still. to put it into perspective, starcraft: brood war came out around the same time, and while people still play it, it hasn't been updated in over 8 years, and it was just a bug fix patch.
I just won a 2 vs 1 thank's to this video, whit the khmer elephants I defeated Indian Imperial Camells & Portuguese !! Thank's you Spirit of the Law, I keep waiting for the review video of the Khmer Civ.
Hey Spirit, loving the videos. Especially the Rise of the Rajas ones because I'm backpacking South East Asia. I spent about three weeks in Cambodia and thought I'd let you know Khmer is pronounced Kuu-mai. Go figure, right?
Keep in mind: you MUST back up your elephants with something. Halbs and monks will make short work of even a large army of them, so getting some archers to take both them out will really work magic.
I kinda understand why the Vietnamiese have the the worst battle elephants since they focus mostly on ranged troops but they're still good for them, as meat shield for melee troops, since Vietnamiese are weak against them.
Another elephant fact, during Vietnam at least one recorded event took place where a long range recon team was stalked by an elephant and then attacked, with one member being stomped on and requiring helicopter med evac (he lived, and other recon teams reported being stalked by curious elephants but this is the only incident I can find as a researcher where an elephant was out for blood, which sometimes we had to kill elephants from the air if they were carrying enemy equipment, so maybe that spread about the community and that one was taking revenge)
Great video as always. From this video it seems like battle elephants are pretty useful in a lot of situations. I wonder why though, in the recent AoE2 HD tournaments with expert players, why battle elephants were hardly used at all. Daut went for them in a couple of games in the first tournament but ended up losing and then they weren't used at all after that, if I recall correctly. It's easy to think of them as a slower but stronger version of the knight line. After all, they are created at the stable and have the same two counters: pikes/halbs and monks. But because of their slow speed, they are countered much harder. For example, monks can be great against knights, but you have to be alert and have the numbers because the knights run in quickly and shred the monks once they get close.Battle elephants are so slow that the monks can convert one elephant and then get away, ready to recover their faith and convert again. Against halbs, knights do badly. But they are easier to keep alive because they can run around and avoid bad engagements. If your army of elephants runs into an army of halbs, they are dead. They can't escape and will be very costly to replenish. Even if the elephants win against the halbs, you will have spent gold to kill trash, giving your enemy an advantage. Perhaps it's better to think of the battle elephants as a kind of siege unit rather than an alternative to knights. Maybe they could work mixed in with archers to soak up arrow fire and put pressure on walls and castles.
Spirit! It's not the elephant being converted. It's the RIDER, silly! Honestly though, keep up the good work. I love your videos and I hope people that have never heard of AoE before (I feel bad for those poor souls) get converted into the WOOWOOWOO religion by your videos :)
AGT88 I don't see the point of giving them to Persians, since Persians rarely used them and have a superior version anyway, but giving them to Indians and Ethiopians is a good idea.
Game's balance is more important than historical accuracy, I'm afraid, but we can still be glad that those two civs do get elephants in their armies.
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why Persian need battle elephant when they already have war elephant? Indian get access to battles elephant is nice idea tho, make up for their shitty elephant archer and enrich their stable 🐘
Giving Persians or Indians the Battle Elephants, would be off charts. The Persians are too strong already, with their unique tech their Battle Elephants would be the fastest in the game, no need for Knight line to take out siege then. About Indians, as proven in the tournaments, they have already strong eco with big savings on food (villagers cost less), giving them Battle Elephants would make them even stronger against non-monk civs. Sure for for historical they should have them, but here we talk about the game balance. I could say right now, why some African civs dont have Elephants, when they are literally in Africa XD. Also ppl dont like when original civs are changed too mush and Persians are part of the original civ pool.
Indians have already Imperial Camels, good Archers and Hand Cannoneers with +1 range. Giving them additional meat in the front as the Battle Elephant could mean very strong combo.
Is anyone else bothered by how the Battle Elephant and War Elephant model doesn't seem to be scaled properly compared to each other? War Elephant seems like it should be a bit bigger but actually looks smaller. Really obvious when they are side by side at 1:00.
another fun fact, which is totally not reflected in the game, is that elephants cry whenever they pass near a person's grave. They really remember everything. And that's why it's so sad to know that they have been hunted for centuries. Such noble animals
Have you done a civ review for every civ? If not, please do (including the 4 new ones) I love watching your content and hope you post more often like you used to :(
I think one of the main advantages of Battle Elephants over the War Elephants is that they are produced at the stable, which makes them much easier to mass. Plus I don't think they do that bad population space wise, because it takes so many vills to keep up the food production to make War Elephants
Shouldn't you have mentioned how well Vietnamese Elephants do against Pikes/Halbs? I think that 30 extra HP allows them to survive 1 more attack from a Halb.
I think it's important to note the Malay save on resources for upgrades and also their battle elephants win with equal resources in castle before all these imperial techs.
How do throwing axemen do against battle elephants? They do melee damage from a short range so might be able to minimise trample damage, but they don't have the anti-cavalry bonus damage that mamelukes do.
Those "elephants facts" blurbs were adorable. Though in the case of the monks, you could argue that the mahout (elephant tamer) is being converted.
Actually, the "conversion" aspect of elephants in the game is quite representative of real elephants being used in battle. There are many reported cases of war elephants attacking the army they were supposed to help.
One of the strategies used to counter elephants in real life was to force them to turn around so they would attack their own army. Mahouts often carried a chisel and a hammer to kill the elephant in case that happened.
QI mentioned setting pigs on fire and sending those against the elephants.
Yes, yes, have you seen Ordos converting unit in Dune 2? Its shooting cans of colour on the enemy and enemies has to change their allegiance depending on their colour :3
Driver! We've been hit by a teal paint scheme.
What? Gunner, about face and fire on those Harkonen bastards.
But we're Harkonnen bastards!
>me reading the strategies described here<
_"One of the strategies used to counter elephants in real life was to force them to turn around so they would attack their own army. Mahouts often carried a chisel and a hammer to kill the elephant in case that happened."_
Me: Oh, God! No! :(
_"QI mentioned setting pigs on fire and sending those against the elephants."_
Me: JESUS!! D8
Finally we're talking about the elephant in the room
nigga u ded
valar morghulis!
NOPE: no word of the ballistaphent IT IS NOT FINISHED YET!
There's an elephant in this room?
I think the elephant in the room is the fact that instead of making a brand new game and updating the system, they just keep adding content to an older title haha
I've never skipped the intro, best intro on youtube.
FjkgB FACT
"Goth game plan" gets me everytime
FjkgB Don't forget the clip from the Supremacy movie
FjkgB it could be shorter but I like it too
He's the one who wrote and played it after all! We can say that SotL is a self made man!
I know it probably sounds dumb, but I really like your videos and they make a shitty day better. Thanks for all the maths and testing you do for us!
ikr and I don't even play this Game (or any AoE Title)
Same here. I don't play this either but I enjoy watching these videos.
I used to play AOE 2 years and years ago. I don't now but I find these videos fascinating to watch.
Probably because it sounds as if he really enjoys this.
Wow, and I actually though I was the only one. I don't play AoE but get hyped when he releases a new video. I think it's something about his voice and the lack of tryhard puns and jokes and bs that are in other YT channels, it's quite pleasing to hear.
Those elephant facts
adorable!
Went here to write it.
That fact elephant is just too cute
The time will come, when the Siege Tower is ruling them all. Just hang in there, Siege Tower, we believe in you.
Magisches Omlett if they allowed ranged units to attack from it, it would be used a lot.
Jon De Oliveira And for the elephant archer: Put 3 archers on his back instead of just 1. That would make the units more realistic and interesting.
Jan Peter I like the Elephant Archer as just a super tanky but slow Cavalry Archer, but I see your point.
I use the elephant archer as mobile towers
Not to fight armies but to screw travelers
they could make it similiar to the siege tower in AOM. With siege bolt attack. Basically a mobile tower. OP as fuck
Indians should be getting battle elephants. It is historically accurate, and makes up for their not having knights.
Anantha Narayanan they pushed the Camels as a replacement for Knights for the Indians, but I would like for them to recieve Battle Elephants too, maybe without the Elite upgrade.
dwarfplayer Indians actually did use camel corps as heavy cavalry, since they scared horses.
dwarfplayer no, they used them against mongol, chinese and arab horsemen.
Well, I totally agree with you. Probably, they could be made the only civilization with all 4 stable options (lacking Paladin and Imperial camel). As per the game (Prithviraj), we Indians did not have camels (for warfare, probably, but for trading). We had good horsemen and the best Elephants (the persians derive their elephants from India, written in history section). And Indians get the silly Elephant Archer, without Trample or Splash damage, and slower ROF than archers.
Edit: no gunpowder also at that time. Maybe give the Imperial Camel to the Saracens, who lack the Cavaliers. The higher HP of Imperial Camel + Zeolatry is balanced by lack of basic armor.
@@Dwarfplayer Nope. Cyrus the Great used them in 530 BCE
Love the Elephant facts! Another Great Vid Spirit!
There is nothing more fun than managing to get about 10 really early Malay elephants out, and let your opponent watch in horror as they trample over their small defense force and proceed to flatten their town center. It is crazy how much damage they can dish AND take compared to knights of equal cost.
And when they overproducing pikes, they can't boom and you switched to Karambit to finish the game
malay? why not khmer elephants? they are faster
@@foodforthought6960 The Malay research Age technologies faster, so they can reach the Castle Age and unlock Battle Elephant production very quickly. I don't know for certain if Malay have the best Fast Castle->Elephant Rush, but they seem like the best candidates for the strategy due to the faster Age techs and cheaper Battle Elephants.
As long as the enemy have no wolololololo
MSG IN YOUR MOUTH identified!!!!
Honestly youre the most relaxing speaker I can find, I love AOE2 and I love how much you do to make these videos informative. Nothing makes me happier than seeing new videos in my subscribed feed.
Looking back. Wow! You're channel has evolved so much. Love your content!
Re; humans outrunning elephants:
Humans are actually one of the few creatures capable of running their prey to death. Human legs are designed for energy efficient running, and humans' ability to sweat from almost everywhere on their body allows them to quickly dissipate heat. Humans aren't the fastest runners, but we can run for longer and farther than most other animals before needing to rest.
Look up the Man versus Horse Marathon, the 22 mile/35 km race that pits runners against riders (it's in Wales). Those riding horses have won most of the time, but a few times the runner on foot has managed to win, and it's usually when the race happens on a hot day (dat heat dissipation yo). If the race were much longer, it's likely the humans would beat the horses more often.
Humans outrunning elephants? elephants charge faster than humans run, and if the elephant is trying to kill you, stamina becomes irrelevant because you're NOT going to stay ahead of it long enough for the elephant to gas out.
An elephant chasing you is not going to end up in a marathon though. It would be a matter of a few minutes at most. Your only chance is to hide somewhere, because outrunning it is impossible for a human.
I was just rewatching old Spirit vids to sate my addiction, and lo and behold, a new one comes out...
*injects math into bloodstream* MMMMMM yeah, that's the stuff...
Who knew math was better than cocaine. Gimme some of the good stuff before that white powder.
I'm glad you talked about elephant facts. As someone who has spent quite a bit of time in Africa, it's frustrating how slow elephants are in AOE2. They are generally not aggressive, but they are territorial. I've been chased by elephants and if I was not in a vehicle I would be dead. They can run a LOT faster than humans.
I am a simple man; I see cute little elephant drawing, I give a like
Listening to Spirit's voice is like a Bob Ross video.
I'm not even playing age of empires, but your videos are so well researched and your voice makes it so interesting. It's just cool to listen to you!
so is it now lore confirmed that persians train super smart elephants that can go to war on their own without the need of a rider?
i always thought the rider was not there to keep the game simple( like boats or siege weapons)
Obelion War Elephants are patriots. LOL.
It probably was so the animators didn't have to make the model...
If you notice it even has a place to mount.
historically, elephants mostly weren't rode. At least not in ancient times. What you would do is have them go into panic mode and unleash them on the enemy army, hoping that they would trample the enemies to death. But they would kill many of your own soldiers in the process as well.
Korosh Rostami cruel.. so fucking cruel..
came for the unit analysis, stayed for the elephant facts
Hey man, your videos are really something. This is the only channel I actually care when it uploads!
Honestly, really good work. Keep it up!
"I AM THE LAW!" -Spirit Of The Law
I SERVE THE FLAMIN' FIST!
"FOR THE GLORY OF AMN!"
LAAAAWWWWW!!!
Spirit, your videos are more interesting and informative than ever. Not to say they ever weren't interesting and informative, but that they're even better now!
Also, I found myself pausing to read the elephant facts. MORE PLEASE.
6:39 ELEPHANT FACT: There is no actual documented case of an elephant being converted to a human religion.
Me: Oh... how suprising!
MajorTomOO Yeah but there's a person ontop of the Elephant. But for the persian elephants there isnt.
Obviously! Elephants are more devout than any standing monkey
I really look forward to a civ overview for the Burmese! I've really been enjoying playing them, but I know a video from you will take my strategy to the next level. Love your videos Spirit of the Law, thanks for all the hard work :)
Am i the only one who thinks this is one of the best youtubers on youtube 0.0
Spirit of the Law for the win! Everytime there's an upload it's an instant watch for me and I don't even play AoE 2. I might just play it for the campaign!
Dammit, I was about to get my beauty sleep but then I saw this in my notifications.
Great video, loved the little "elephant facts" that popped up from time to time. Keep up the great work!
Another great video, thanks for it. Its hilarious the elephants fact at 6:38
don't forget the kamayuk's bonus against elephants
Yeah, I should have mentioned them. They'd even get some safety from the trample damage once they're doubled up because of their range.
Spirit Of The Law can you suggest map types and civilizations that might go well with elephants ?
Spirit Of The Law update to the video maybe?
An annotation would probably suffice
Persians War Elephant can do trample damage too.
A man is early. A man makes a joke.
Elephant Archer
ahahahaha good 1 bro!!
I would argue that Organ Gun is the new joke right now :-D.
hit enter?
A man has never seen an elephant that could do archery.
I'm kinda salty cause I'm Indian lol.
I loved thos little "Elephant Fact" observations you kept popping up. They were amazing! XD
WOW! I didn't even knew there was ANOTHER Expansion planned after Age of Forgotten Empires. Jesus! These guys just won't stop ever! 8D
those elephant facts are so lovely, I love your channel!
wow spirit is still alive
i don't play aoe2 but the way u talk and explain things is so relaxing. really weird. glad youtube recommended me your channel some months ago :)
Never clicked a notification so fast
I know, right?
I like the new 4 civs and buildings their cambodian inspired its another culture to the mix.
The most wholesome intro on youtube
That animated elephant is so cute man, that was a really nice addition to the video :D
we need an updated video of this unit please, thank you
AWESOME production value in this video
Omg dudes still alive!! Dude we need more video plsss
that elephant that appeared alongside the facts was by far the cutest thing I saw all week
I love the Elephant Facts
Should have been elefacts
7:20 song's name?
*But scorpions do have an attack bonus vs elephants.*
I love the little facts on the side, you should do more of those on upcoming videos!
its funny how this game from like 20 years ago has so many features that im still learning about today.
Dude, you're videos are awesome, nice work.
How well would Conquistadors perform against them? Should be 11 damage at a decent range with hit and run capabilities.
Why would you use Conquistadors against Elephants, when you have Spanish Inquisition in the first place and only Malay gets Heresy?
Unless they have Teutons as an ally in team games, these civs are not making any elephants against Monk civs, mainly the Spanish :-D.
Your comment sounds so extremely bizar from a historic standpoint..
Spanish taking elephants to the Americas
From History yeah, from how game works, 99% accurate.
@@rikwisselink-bijker 🤣
I love this unit it really stand out in pitched battles.
Can we expect any civilization overviews from RotR anytime soon? Would love to see a Burmese overview and learn a bit about how the Arambai unit stacks up against everything else
Honestly before I found your channel I didn't really pay attention to order of things and upgrades I just upgraded everything and didn't really get AS much out of the game before I found all the testing you do for all of us and I love it! but with that being said can you please please do more expansion videos thaaaaaaanks!!!!!!
it's still so crazy to me a game this old is getting expansions still. to put it into perspective, starcraft: brood war came out around the same time, and while people still play it, it hasn't been updated in over 8 years, and it was just a bug fix patch.
I just won a 2 vs 1 thank's to this video, whit the khmer elephants I defeated Indian Imperial Camells & Portuguese !! Thank's you Spirit of the Law, I keep waiting for the review video of the Khmer Civ.
These elephant facts are adorable. I love it.
Hey Spirit, loving the videos. Especially the Rise of the Rajas ones because I'm backpacking South East Asia. I spent about three weeks in Cambodia and thought I'd let you know Khmer is pronounced Kuu-mai. Go figure, right?
I've never before clicked on a video this quickly.
Your videos rock, Spirit. Just awesome!
Keep in mind: you MUST back up your elephants with something. Halbs and monks will make short work of even a large army of them, so getting some archers to take both them out will really work magic.
Spirit Of The Law , at 1:53 you accidentally put war elephants instead of battle elephants
Oops. I figured I was bound to mix up the names at least once :)
You could have compared them to archer elephants as well, just for the sake of it.
I dont even play this game but i really enjoy hearing your explanation. Keep up the great work ;)
I kinda understand why the Vietnamiese have the the worst battle elephants since they focus mostly on ranged troops but they're still good for them, as meat shield for melee troops, since Vietnamiese are weak against them.
You know what it means to find a new spirit of the law video, though you are studying ;)
Love the random elephants facts through out the video! :)
one of your best video ! i know everything about elephant War thanks to you !
Because of you my friends don't want to play against me anymore.
I love it!
Happy 3 year anniversary to the Elephant Facts 🐘
Thanks! The elephants have been kind of a blackbox to me since the release :D now I'm feeling so educated also the elephant facts are GOLD 11
im not playing age of empires, but i love to watch your videos!
Another elephant fact, during Vietnam at least one recorded event took place where a long range recon team was stalked by an elephant and then attacked, with one member being stomped on and requiring helicopter med evac (he lived, and other recon teams reported being stalked by curious elephants but this is the only incident I can find as a researcher where an elephant was out for blood, which sometimes we had to kill elephants from the air if they were carrying enemy equipment, so maybe that spread about the community and that one was taking revenge)
where have you been man ? do not be lazy we love you ;)
I don't even play online, but my God your videos are interesting
these videos are oddly relaxing
The elephant fact bits had me dying. Great vid
Those elephant facts were hilarious^^
I'm waiting for your civ analysis to see if I should buy the expansion!! Great video for now tho
cute Lil elephant facts were on point! loved that
Great video as always. From this video it seems like battle elephants are pretty useful in a lot of situations. I wonder why though, in the recent AoE2 HD tournaments with expert players, why battle elephants were hardly used at all. Daut went for them in a couple of games in the first tournament but ended up losing and then they weren't used at all after that, if I recall correctly.
It's easy to think of them as a slower but stronger version of the knight line. After all, they are created at the stable and have the same two counters: pikes/halbs and monks. But because of their slow speed, they are countered much harder. For example, monks can be great against knights, but you have to be alert and have the numbers because the knights run in quickly and shred the monks once they get close.Battle elephants are so slow that the monks can convert one elephant and then get away, ready to recover their faith and convert again. Against halbs, knights do badly. But they are easier to keep alive because they can run around and avoid bad engagements. If your army of elephants runs into an army of halbs, they are dead. They can't escape and will be very costly to replenish. Even if the elephants win against the halbs, you will have spent gold to kill trash, giving your enemy an advantage.
Perhaps it's better to think of the battle elephants as a kind of siege unit rather than an alternative to knights. Maybe they could work mixed in with archers to soak up arrow fire and put pressure on walls and castles.
Spirit! It's not the elephant being converted. It's the RIDER, silly!
Honestly though, keep up the good work. I love your videos and I hope people that have never heard of AoE before (I feel bad for those poor souls) get converted into the WOOWOOWOO religion by your videos :)
this is a truly beautiful video. thank you.
There's a certain mod on the Workshop that also grants Battle Elephants to the Ethiopians, Indians and Persians that's absolutely wonderful.
AGT88 I don't see the point of giving them to Persians, since Persians rarely used them and have a superior version anyway, but giving them to Indians and Ethiopians is a good idea.
Now when will they give Indians battle elephants? x)
Game's balance is more important than historical accuracy, I'm afraid, but we can still be glad that those two civs do get elephants in their armies.
why Persian need battle elephant when they already have war elephant? Indian get access to battles elephant is nice idea tho, make up for their shitty elephant archer and enrich their stable 🐘
I'd gladly swap Imperial Camels for Battle Elephants, for the Indians. It fits better.
Giving Persians or Indians the Battle Elephants, would be off charts.
The Persians are too strong already, with their unique tech their Battle Elephants would be the fastest in the game, no need for Knight line to take out siege then.
About Indians, as proven in the tournaments, they have already strong eco with big savings on food (villagers cost less), giving them Battle Elephants would make them even stronger against non-monk civs.
Sure for for historical they should have them, but here we talk about the game balance.
I could say right now, why some African civs dont have Elephants, when they are literally in Africa XD.
Also ppl dont like when original civs are changed too mush and Persians are part of the original civ pool.
Indians have already Imperial Camels, good Archers and Hand Cannoneers with +1 range.
Giving them additional meat in the front as the Battle Elephant could mean very strong combo.
i only play aoe 3 like once every couple weeks yet im addicted to your videos
would really love to see a civ overview of any of the new Rise of the Rajas civs
5:54 what is that unit on a horse on the far left that is throwing something?
Arambai
Burmese Unique Unit
Is anyone else bothered by how the Battle Elephant and War Elephant model doesn't seem to be scaled properly compared to each other? War Elephant seems like it should be a bit bigger but actually looks smaller. Really obvious when they are side by side at 1:00.
another fun fact, which is totally not reflected in the game, is that elephants cry whenever they pass near a person's grave. They really remember everything. And that's why it's so sad to know that they have been hunted for centuries. Such noble animals
Spirit Of The Law- Are you currently working on or planning to make civ overviews for the Rise of the Rajas civs? Love your overviews man!
I liked those elephant facts!
Who would've known that elephants
lead interesting personal lives?
Have you done a civ review for every civ? If not, please do (including the 4 new ones) I love watching your content and hope you post more often like you used to :(
And of course, now we have the Tatar's flaming camel as an elephant-specific counter unit.
I think one of the main advantages of Battle Elephants over the War Elephants is that they are produced at the stable, which makes them much easier to mass. Plus I don't think they do that bad population space wise, because it takes so many vills to keep up the food production to make War Elephants
Shouldn't you have mentioned how well Vietnamese Elephants do against Pikes/Halbs? I think that 30 extra HP allows them to survive 1 more attack from a Halb.
4:41 "Dat bonus damage tho"
My favorite part lel
Love the intro, not sure whats up with the Corvette or Viper, but great overall 😂
I think it's important to note the Malay save on resources for upgrades and also their battle elephants win with equal resources in castle before all these imperial techs.
How do throwing axemen do against battle elephants? They do melee damage from a short range so might be able to minimise trample damage, but they don't have the anti-cavalry bonus damage that mamelukes do.
Is this still working on DE 2020?
I was just thinking yesterday "man I wish Spirit would make a video analyzing the Battle Elephant..." and what do you know... :)