Best Eagle Warriors in AoE2
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 30 ก.ค. 2024
- In this video I compare the Eagle Warriors from Aztecs, Mayans, and Incas across a variety of tests to see which one is the best. I'll consider how strong they are in 1) direct fights with each other, 2) raiding potential, and 3)how they do against archers, infantry, and cavalry.
1:15 El Dorado, Garland Wars, and Couriers
2:30 Eagle Warriors vs Eagle Warriors
3:10 Which is best at raiding?
5:07 vs Archers
6:15 vs Champions
7:00 vs Halberdiers
7:38 vs Paladins
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Today is the 20th anniversary of Age of Empires 2, released on September 30th 1999. What a nice video to commemorate it.
AOE series is the best strategy game series ever
Agreed
I'll wait until Aoe2 Definitive Edition has been released.
Wheres my OG squad😁
Today is my birthday and I just discovered that my favorite game is also of September 30th :)
Aztecs has the best eagles before Unique Tech is researched because faster production rate. Especially important in feudal age where producing an eagle takes forever.
Fair point spirit should see this
and it also makes sense that mayans have the best eagles since their unique upgrade only benefits eagles while the aztec ut benefits all infantry and the inca ut also benefits kamayuks and slingers, not just eagles
I'm surprised SotL didn't mention it. Or maybe I'm not surprised? :^) Especially when it comes to fast imp raiding, Aztecs can field a lot more units while resources aren't really a concern at that point so it would definitely be worth taking this civ bonus in the account. So there should be separate tests done where Aztecs have more units than other two civs.
I was going to ask him about that!
@CommandoDude LOVE your prof pic! GW!
I can't unhear "Spirit of the La Hire" anymore
Thanks to you I m gonna hear the same.
The blood on Spirit's Katana is almost dry!!!
Me too
He still wishes to kill something.
I sense a meme!
I'm still baffled that loom, a textile upgrade, affects male and female villagers equally despite the male villagers working shirtless. Are all the infantry just stabbing his legs?
i never tought of that in 20 years... nice question !
They just wear torso-shaped armour of course.
Their new underwear protects against asskicking.
Remember, this is the same game where wolves do not prey on sheep.
This is female MMORPG armor all over again! AOE2 was ahead of its time!
Mayans Unique Tech = just eagles stronger
Aztecs and Incas = make some units + eagles stronger
so i guess it would be fair for mayans to have the strongest eagles.
Yeah, I thought of the same thing.
Thats the case because plums dont need any more buff
Wdym with make some +eagles stronger? What if mayans make some units too
@@eget4144 no, I think obsidian arrow should be included in El Dorado. Mayans archer line deserves a buff.
@@eduardovega8851 The point is that the mayan unique tech El Dorado only affects eagle warriors and nothing else. The incan and aztec techs affects several units. Thus you'd expect the mayan tech to be stronger, since it affects fewer units.
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@@HellStamp lol
What do you call an Eagle Warrior that makes it past Fatslob’s walls?
An Illegal Warrior.
All's fair in love and war!
😡😡😡
Considering Fatslob never allows you to play Meso civs, it really would be illegal, wouldn't it.
Thanks t90, very cool
Best comment. Even funnier if he's Aztec.
SotL releases a video while I'm rewatching his videos. I have been blessed.
The only thing in this video that was a surprise to me was Incas doing about equally well against Paladins as Aztecs. This is one of those cases where one single point of melee armor makes all the difference, since each eagle will survive one extra hit (14 damage on Incas vs 15 damage on every other eagle) and that compensates for the damage.
Nothing really compensates for having 66% more HP, because that's ridiculous, but I knew that before I watched the video. You can't take fights against these units because they outspeed anything that can actually kill them, and anything that can run away from them has to because these things murder them. Plumes are just so efficient that it's hard to justify using a lot of them even if they are busted.
I haven't played AoE-II in about a decade, and I still look forward to any of your new videos. THAT is how entertaining you are!
Thanks for refering to them as the american civilizations, which is the correct way to call them. Many players call them meso civs, but that is just not correct taking incas into consideration. I apreciate your efford making excelent content.
I know this is 2 years after. But the region of Central America is referred to as Meso America. And Calling them Meso civs helps to avoid confusion with Native North American factions, such as those in Age of Empires 3.
Since some people play both AoE 2 and AoE 3, they probably separate it with American and Meso
"The historic region of Mesoamerica comprises the modern day countries of northern Costa Rica, Nicaragua, Honduras, El Salvador, Guatemala, Belize, and central to southern Mexico. For thousands of years, this area was populated by groups such as the Olmec, Zapotec, Maya, Toltec, and Aztec peoples."
Admitting this does not cover the Incans who spanned the mountain ranges and Eastern coasts of South America
@@saintpres4ge533 so basically you are saying that it is incorrect to call them meso civs because incas are not from mesoamerica. Which is exactly what op said...
Just when I thought that Spirit of the Law was almost dead, he comes with a Eagle Warrior banger!
The reason why teutonic knights have so low speed is, because they mostly just chilling on top of the comparison line up.
This way they don't move so much around.
Or they’re just fat and that’s why they move so slow and are hard to kill.
@CommandoDude they are crazy against thrash as well as any melee unit(except the obvious-samurai, jaguar warrior). I mean they are great against goths(unless thegoths go for hand canoneers(I generally mix hc if I go against teutons with goths)
@@baldawenOk there should be a cheat / mod that makes the Teutonic knights fat.
...strange how it can be so relaxing to listen to you voice reading statistics-stuff :D
The Mayan tech also costs the least gold, very handy considering the high gold cost of the unit. (Okay, it's only a few extra units, but it still makes for a better value overall.)
hey SOTL, have you done a video about tributing resources to team mates before?
like, when is it good to do it? what to consider, etc?
Yes, the market video.
@@lalitsinghrana4234 many thanks.
I remember the good 'ol days when Incan Eagle Warriors ran all over the map with ridiculous speed, good times
They used to be faster after couriers?
Yeah couriers was a speed upgrade instead of an armor upgrade back then. 10% I think
Though I can't see a purpose of speed increase so late into the game except maybe an improvement against ranged siege units.
They changed it because it was super underpowered.
10% was weak as fuck, barely changed anything in their role. If it was 20%...
Wait until the Spanish get that OP tech called "Smallpox" in Definitive Edition, in which Eagle Warriors incrementally lose 1 HP per second whenever they are in the LOS of a Conquistador.
I'm kidding of course....
"Aww shit, here we go again"
That would actually be hilarious
Should be "once they have been" instead of "whenever they are" so they are doomed as soon as the Spanish approach them.
@@OytheGreat lolol
@Hoàng Nguyên Vietnamese ? "The trees are talking."
I'm just glad to have the intro song back!
YES! The intro is back! I really missed it.
Me: doesn’t play AOE and has no interest playing it anytime soon
Also me: interesting
atleast you can wreck someone when you actually end up playing aoe2
The funny thing is that in real Life Eagle Warrior is a unic Aztec's concept xD
Oh good, welcome back INTRO!
Nice was waiting for another type of these videos.
Love it! keep the videos comin, idc if you've already covered this kind of.
I think the best eagles are the ones that can be upgraded with just typing:
" _woof woof_ ".
Edit: spelling :)
Stormy Dog!
I missed the intro ! Great vid !
We asked and you heard.
Thank you!
Haven't watched you in years... Is it just me or are you sounding much happier
Aztecs are one of my favorite civilizations, so it's nice to see that eagle warriors work well for them, especially considering my favorite strategy revolves around them. It rarely works against actual players, but most of the games I play are against 6 or 7 standard computers. I make a huge army of eagle warriors mixed in with a couple of jaguar warriors to deal with infantry, and park them right outside someone's base, do some raiding on the outskirts, and generally keep their army busy. Then I make 5 petards and walk them right up to the town center. It blows up and the computer resigns. It feels great, even if it's not really practical for competitive play
Great video!
It would be interesting to see how the eagle warriors work with the other unique units of their civs to see how their synergy works
hola pese a no saber ingles, le entiendo a tus videos, gracis por llenar el video de muchos imagenes y colores que hasta en otro idioma se entienden, good job
my inglish is bad, but your videos is very easy to undertend nice video nwn like and fav
finally, thank you, I have been waiting for this!
Such a great vid, thank you spirit!
THAT INTRO IS LEGENDARYYYYY
You should do a video about Eagle Warriors and their interactions with monks, arrows and cavalry. Compare them to cavalry in cost and effectiveness against the different unit types. That would be awesome.
Missed that intro song. Thanks spirit.
Sotl is fantastic. I would love to see something like best unique unit of eat type. For eg best unique foot archer or best unique cavalry or best unique infantry. That would be interesting.
Hard to make a ranking because unique units are some kind of specialists.
For example: Tarkans (4 base pierce armor) are good against archers but loose against pikes. Cataphracts are good against pikes but struggle against massed archers because they have only 1 pierce armor (less than knights or scouts). Catas attack very fast, Tarkans relatively slow. Both Elite versions have 150hp but Huns get the bloodlines upgrade and Blast Furnace while Byzantines will lack both. You would never make Tarkans to fight pikes and Cataphracts to fight archers that's why it's hard to compare them.
_Elephant fact_ is at 0:55
*Usain Bolt* is not human confirmed by SoTL
''most humans''?
I KNEW IT
Against archers with 7 attack (like cav archers or many unique units), Incas excel even more, taking 60 hits rather than 20 or 34.
Only if you don’t have armor upgrades, with armor upgrades eagles have 8 defence, so they all take 1 damage from Cav Archers and the like.
Remember that Cav Archers themselves have the attack upgrades. So this is 7 *base damage*. Incan 10 Pierce Armour, giving the opponent Fletching/Bodkin/Bracer and Chemistry means they take 1 damage from all Heavy Cav Archers or 2 from Elite Mangudai/Magyar HCA. Mayans and Aztecs take 2 more in this situation so the Incas survive even longer relativistically.
Even if the HCAs lack Bracer it's still a distinct edge for the Incas.
YESSS the intro is back :D
Dat Supremacy villager so fitting in the intro with the guitar chords
A Spirit of the Law video on a Mesoamerican unit? You have been reading my birthday list...
I love this channel so much
A spirit of the law upload, lets just say,I WAS having a bad day
Mr Spirit of the Law sir, I think you should measure each civilization's eagle warriors against siege and monks, given that they are the closest thing these Mesoamerican civilizations can get to a cavalry unit.
The intro is back!
Who else got ads about going on holidays to Mexico? I guess the eagle warriors also work on a travel agency in their off time.
the robin eagle joke made me laugh for at least 15 seconds
and i don't know why
I've got a video idea: which civs have the best wood bonus, in terms of villager seconds needed to collect x amount of wood? Would be a good way to contextualize wood bonuses and could be done for a bunch of resources and bonuses.
When the quality of a youtubers video's are so great that you watch his video's even though you don't give a sh*t about the game his channel is based on
I don't particularly enjoy playing the Meso civs, but I love the Eagle Warrior. Such a cool unit and design.
Please do a top 5 navy video... That's one that I'm really eager to watch
Excellent Choice!
I like your videos during ads.
Perfect like alwaysss
YAY! theme song is back
finaly a video made for me and my fav unit
Spirit. Please make 5 best Naval civs
I think Italians or Malay are 1st Best Naval Civs.
My personal 5 MILITARY NAVAL CIVS
5. Italians because cheaper techs dont improve ships in battle standards. Its just that you get more in price of that tech
4. Berbers because they can Blitzkrieg you with their faster ships
3.Portuguese because of their Caravel, 10% HP and Late game +1 armor, But they are not superior to 2nd
2. Vikings are like Imperial Guard in Warhammer 40k. Quantity over quality (I dont mean that Viking ships are Shit, i mean they are great at Quantity). And their longboats are GREAT against Cannon Galleons
Honorable mentions:
Chinese with their Demo Ships. I dont mostly count Demo Ships because they cost more gold, and you loose them in battle faster
Japanese because LOS works only in TEAM naval games
Turks (+25% HP) and Spanish (Fast cannon balls) with their buffs for Cannon Galleons but Cannon Galleons are in late game
Korean Turtle ships are only excelling unit in Korean tech tree
Byzantine with their attack rate and range on their Fire ships, but Fire Ships are good against close combat
Malay have mediocre fleet, except for Harbor
1. Saracens, Their firing rate on Galley line is making them more superior than anyone with fleet buffs
My person 5 ECONOMIC NAVAL CIVS
5. Berbers because Speed only improves getting the fish/gold in your civ
4. Italians because I miss the Fishing boat LOS increased, but they have cheaper Trading cogs
3. Persians with their dock working rate, i can produce more ships in time of like 15 minutes
2. Malay because Fish Traps are your infinite food supply and are cheaper as well
1. Indians with their Sultans tech. Because Late game is part, where is less gold, and with Sultans tech, i generate more gold than before
Oh that sweet SotL intro 😍
Glad to see you caved to the public outrage and brought back the opening.
These are the questions we need answering
nice vid, thanks
Great video, can do a "the best raiding civiliztion" video please
Hey Spirit. Can you do a vid on a breakdown of all the gunpowder units? As in, match-ups between different types and the best situations to use them?
Awesome video once again. I am still waiting on the Herbal Medicine video tho
SoL, you have made a video on craziest techs in x256, but what is the best civ for no cap?
Damn you Spirit! Now i can only hear "Spirit of the La Hire"
Interesting. I usually don't pay that much attention to "increase health" upgrades, but going from 60 to 100 really is a LOT.
Funny how the nation with the best Eagle Warriors actually needs them the least. Though to be honest I'm missing 1 crucial element to this video, how the different Eagle Warriors supplement their respective armies. You slightly touched upon that in the end but that should have been the biggest emphasis Imho. For Mayans for example you already mentioned the Plumed Archer as a superior raiding unit and 1 of the best archer units in general covering most of their anti archery needs. Of course if they run into heavy skirmisher opposition, Ratan Archers, etc, they'd still need their Eagles, and in those situations as you mentioned the Mayan Eagle Warrior is by far the best of the bunch and is a very solid unit choice that as you've shown also does well against other units like say Paladins who often complement archer armies as archers are extra powerful against the spear line which is the typical cavalry counter. The same analysis should be done for the other 2 nations and that should be the main comparison Imho.
Hi Spirit Of The Law, can you make a video about Parthian Tactics?
Just love your content sotl, how can I support you?
Would you be willing to consider doing a video comparing the Longbowmen, Jannissary, and Handconneer?
Great video, but now, it's really time for the AoE 2 Definitive Edition to release. I would like to see that content with the new nicer graphics. :)
hey Sotl, when definitive addition comes out (not sure when it comes out) you should make a definitive addition version of your intro, if its even possible to do. would be pretty neat.
Spirit, can you do something on bombard towers? I always hear they are OP but never seem to build them myself. Your videos have helped me see the advantage of units in the past, so how about it, want to give it a go?
The funiest: in history only azteca was have eagle warrior XD
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Because mayans tech is exclusive only to eagles while the other civ tech is towards variety of units.
wow mayan eagles were my pick for the winner.. but man didnt expect to blow both others out by that margin in so many categories
That moment you know the answer to a SoTL video T_T
Does Rise of Rajas have all of the civilisations from AoE2? If not which of the expansions does? I have Age of Kings but that only has the basic civilisations, and I'm not sure if conquerors, forgotten, rajas etc just include the new civilisations and not the old ones?
I think a cool test for raiding would be how well they chase down a stream of trade carts
Can you make a detailed video of scorpion with all the civs both original and expansion
Spirit, can you do a video on ideal army comp for trash war and/or what civ is best for trash war? (I would include in the calculus any unit with no gold cost in post-imp such as Magyar huszars and Malay infantry)
What is the song of the intro?
INTRO SONG!! :)
Hey Spirit, what about against siege? If a good siege civ gets going with a siege army, they can wipe the map of meso civs. Usually, eagles have to fill in the siege killing role since they don't have stable units and I was wondering how good each civ's eagles did against siege.
If you don't get hit by the siege i guess Aztecs will be the best...
If its a siege+arch civ. Incas.
Siege+cav/inf. Mayans.
Against scorpions mayans would be the best, against rams and mango's probably aztecs, against lots of mangos/onagers mayans again because they can survive direct shots and still have like 50%
I would rather say it's incas since the army composition, while it's gold intensive, it's pretty versatile against everything you throw at them.
@@arkhire5883 But this isnt about who has the best army comp, its who has the best eagles.
At 1:52 you see the eagle at ATK 13, but in the 'before and after' shot it has 9+8 after Garland wars?
I am curious if the roles are different though. As you mentioned, Mayans have a good raider already.
In real life, Aztecs used to have 4 main warriors: butterfly warrior, jaguar warrior, eagle warrior and shaved warrior. The first was a low class militar, the second and third were in the middle and the bald dudes used to be the best of the best.
I guess its okay that Aztecs eagle warriors are in the middle, even if they are the civ that used to have eagle warriors in reallity.
I love making a large group of Aztec eagles run through a town center and when they get in the center have them attack so they can all attack at once instead of trying to fill in the outside of it
Just melts tcs
Age of empires 2 anniversary squad,where you at!
30th of September 1999
I was 2 when it came out.
A new comparison would show Inca eagles being the best nowadays thanks to the food discount.
You should do a poll to see how many of your viewers actually still play AoE2
If we have Khmer scorpions vs the american civs what unit should I make to counter the Khmer scorpions?
ive never played any of these civs, i like the teutons, spanish and other civ with good canon gallleys, or great defence
do any of these have great defence or great ships?
The spanish have the best cannon galleons period and excellent defences
Aztecs have very bad defenses with no building HP upgrades (even lacking the one for castles), you could argue mayans have a defense bonus with their cheaper walls but that's very meh, Incas are probably the best with their cheaper stone buildings so you can get more castles etc but none of them really excel. Mayans have a really good navy and inca navy is good, aztec is kinda not good for a civ with Bracer but all of them completely lack cannon galleons so you're out of luck there.
The most significant lose these civs have is that they don't have cavalry. Mayans have discount towards walls as they are cheaper (50% I think, and its a team bonus) And they have resources that last longer (SoTL has a video regarding that) So that may help when defending. (Also, Mayans has the best ships of them all with the exception of powder units like Cannon Galley because reasons lol)
Aztecs are by far the weakest in defensive, since they miss many buildings techs, and missing most of ship techs
Incas is somewhat in the middle
In these cases you have to invade the enemies islands early on and drop castle/raid, otherwise it's difficult to win as they're not ship civs. But if you have an ally that has bombard galleons, they can do that job while you support with other ships, and prepare to land vills to build an invasion. With incas though, in very long games I've placed several castles in the trading line, it's easier as they're cheaper. It works really well. If you know how to use them and have a nice trade line, you can fight and counter any other civ even in very late game. With the mayans too, it's just kind of harder with the aztecs. But the incas "defenses" rely on massing their special units. Fully developed slingers can counter even huskarls. And elite kamayuks can utterly destroy horse lines and are good to counter siege.
Incas have great defense, provided you can use their army well. Incas have a vast range of actually viable units which work really well with each other, making transitions and army comps extremely fluid. Apart from that, they have all University techs other than Architecture and discounted stone buildings. Buffed villagers also help.
This inforrmation would be very useful...
If I played AOE2 at all, lol.
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So are you
So true.
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Aztecs also have slightly faster creation, for what it's worth
SOTL can u do a video on "siege speed",,, for example units that have high puerce armor combined with attack bonus on buildings and durability,,,, so for example tarkans have siege speed, woad raiders and eagle warriors,, mongol siege rams,paladins,, ive realized i only like civs with siege speed, but it was difficult to think of 5 solid ones,, top ones for me would be mongos celts and huns and also mayans