Candyce Cain They were friends the entire time. They were roommates during the Olympics and every competition they were friends for years but they had to go along with what the media wanted them to do. With that they felt like it was hurting each other.
Nicole Skorupsky i can’t remember correctly but i think they both said something along the lines of, the results of the Olympics is what affected their friendship. Shawn admitted to being jealous that Nastia won more medals than her and the biggest thing is the fact that Nastia won the all around and not her. It was mostly all from Shawn’s side, the jealousy and failure she said she felt after the Olympics and that’s what drove them apart. But I’m really glad they have both moved on and are great friends again and Nastia is apart of Shawn’s baby’s life, baby drew! 💗💗🥰🥰
Nastia's experience with Nassar is different from the other girls because her father was her coach. If Nastia God forbid was bein abused she would tell her father and be heard as a daughter not an athlete.
@@ruslanasidaruk8043 It's pretty well known now the coaches in USAG were aware of Larry as well as accusations from former gymnasts. Yet Valeri chose to stick around because his family's legacy of winners meant more than the safety and well being of other kids. Thats why he ultimately stepped down as well.
I cant believe people got angry simply because she said she WAS NOT molested & he had only been professional with her. Nastia has NOTHING to apologize for.... she & Shawn had fierce protectors & Larry knew that. He did this for decades. He knew what he could and could not get away with it. Larry had so many enablers & thankfully for them, Valeri & Qiao were not 2 of them.
I think the reason it became such a problem was people were sharing their stories and her statement wasn't in support of them while expressing her experience, it was in complete opposition to what they said without supporting. Nastia is amazing and I support her so much but it was a poorly worded statement
I'm sorry but she does by still working for an organization that promotes child abuse that she was really part of but we'll never really know. She was on the National Team and their parents weren't allowed to visit them while they were at that camp. She had to know that things were happening even if it wasn't happening to her. If she really didn't she does now and should leave the business or go out of her way to create a safer place for young gymnasts to train. Use her knowledge, power, and money for good.
@@tiadavenport5465 there is so much shame associated with these crimes that people will hide it even from their friends. Think of all the girls you've known in school....now imagine how many you thought had these kinds of problems in their life. You are stuck with these people for hours upon hours everyday and you dont know most of what they gi through. Add the level of focus and attention needed to become the top atheletes in their field...yea...its very likely that it wasnt known amongst the group. How do you think the program is going to improve....everyone who is good and really cares leaves and only those that were part of the problem stay? The good ones need to stay and the bad one need to go...so that the company can be the healthy place for future athletes. Organizations don't change from the outside.
I really don’t think Valeri knew. If you notice none of the girls on the Beijing team were abused. I think Nassar knew it would be taking too much of a chance to try one of them and have Valeri find out. Maybe he knew that if Valeri found out then his ass would be fried. Anyway, like Nastia said. There’s no way in fuck he would let her continue to see him if he knew.
Julie Элизабет I agree with this. I can’t imagine a way Valeri, as a father to a young girl on the team, would know something like that and be able to cover it up especially when Nastia clearly has a tight relationship with her father.
@@MH-il2ps It is unlikely any of them were since Mr. Memmel and Mr. Liukin were such a huge part of the fray and that whole time minus Shawn who was the outsider of the group were good friends. There is no way word would not have gotten out. Nassar is a sicko but he was also quite shrewd. He would know full well he would never get away with it with this group with 2 of the biggest stars of the team who were a tight clique coached by Dads. The 2012 group and others were far easier.
Her saying that he was always very professional with her, doesn’t mean that she didn’t believe it. I think she was just stating the fact that he was professional with her. She’s not an insensitive person.
Couldn’t agree more. If you want to read a truly insensitive and cold reaction to the abuse, read Svetlana Khorkina’s interview published in The Guardian on her reaction to the Nassar case, as well as abuse in gymnastics worldwide. She’s a truly awful human being.
@@dananezat I would agree AND I AM POSITIVE HER DAD I THINK COULD HAVE DONE SOMETHING WORSE TO NASSAR HECK I WOULD HAVE LOVED TO GO AFTER NASSAR HECK IF I WAS AROUND TRY ME I WOULD HAVE DECKED HIM!!!!
People are really in the comments asking why Nastia defended her father? Have a little compassion people. Imagine being asked to chose between your father and a victim. This is a very difficult situation for all parties involved but I don't think people have the right to call out Nastia for being loyal towards her father.
@Davy Lau This will probably sound cold, but consider her relationship with her father - or at least the one you can see on TV. He's a coach, he's Russian, and he comes off as very cold towards even his daughter most of the time. But y'know that's their relationship and I think because of it, and because of her life choices re: Olympics, she's a very tough skinned person... and I can see how any gymnast whining about being shunned or neglected can seem like, well like whining. It doesn't seem as legitimate of an accusation as being molested. I'm sure it was very tough but I'm sorry that's a little bit to do with the career they're in. Being pushed to be better is usually not seen as being comforted and celebrated. I DON'T think it's fair to say he contributed to an environment where it's ok to be molested.
@Davy Lau Mattie was a huge crybaby. She didn't jump complain about the Nassar abuse which was fully legit but about Marta's tough coaching techniques at the trial. Marta was not on trial so that was completely out of place to begin with, and she seemed to resent anyone who was tough, not just the abusive ones, and expects everyone to follow her. People like Nassar are disgusting but people like Marta who are tough are just part of the sport if you want to succeed. That is why someone like Mattie who are soft never succeeded in the sport.
tyler bam that's not entirely true, in that the idea is the tense atmosphere was partially what allowed Nassar to gain the girls' trust by posing as the "good guy." And it's not necessarily true that coaches HAVE to be like that to get winners. Look at Shawn Johnson's (and Gabby Douglas's) coach, Liang Chow. No one ever made any kind of allegations of him being emotionally abusive in any way--he treated all of his gymnasts like his own children and was absolutely beloved by all of them by all accounts. But that being said, an unnecessarily tough atmosphere doesn't make the coaches morally accountable when a sick pervert takes advantage of that circumstance to get at young girls that way--but it does acknowledge that this sort of thing would be less possible in an environment like Chow's gym where the coach IS also seen as the good guy and there's no need for someone like Nassar to pose in that role.
bananaxo Sorry bud, but if the gymnasts who trained with him for decades say otherwise, your opinion as some rando is really insignificant. Shunning a child for a human mistake absolutely does ostracize them and make it much easier for a pedo to creep their way in. Y’all wanna say “it’s the nature of the environment” no, the nature of the environment is inherently tough, not abusive. If you have to be abusive to get something out of your gymnasts, you’re just not good enough as a coach. If you expect literal children to toughen up when being abused for a medal, I think maybe, just maybe, you wanna go ahead and reverse the roles. Maybe it’s time to put Valeri in a similar, toxic environment with our criticism because well, maybe that’ll make him a good coach, and apparently humankind has descended to that level.
Then why didn't he do something? They all want the Olympics too much to do anything. Watch Athlete A and they'll you'll see why so many didn't speak up when they should've. Any parent who hands their baby girl over and turns a blind eye on the entire process is stupid. If my child came home and shared that some doctor was touching her he'd be gone.
I understand that nastia would defend her dad ofcourse , and i love her but she could have phrased it better not basically threaten a gymnast that gave a testimony based on her own perspective , Mattie larson said that the comitee, coaches and the karolys including valeri shunned her and treated her horribly after costing the team gold in 2010 worlds, being her coach or not isnt relevant, and lets face it valeri and the coaches in general were known to being extremely strict about diet, training, skills , his track record with any gymnast he coached except nastia was horrible, rebecca bross injured herself so many times to count and was pushed so harshly, katlyn ohashi did a difficult 7.3 sv routine as a junior and ended up with a broken back and retired
I completely agree. Beautifully articulated. I feel like Nastia came off really arrogant, pretentious, and extremely condescending during her response to that question. Like you mentioned, just because Valeri wasn’t Mattie’s coach, doesn’t mean that Mattie’s experience was wrong, false, pr should be discredited or diminished.
Agreed. It makes sense that Nastia was like “it doesn’t make sense my dad never even coach this athlete.” However coaches had influence over athletes that weren’t just theirs. Because of the camps all the coaches and all the athletes were together so they all knew each other. Valeri could’ve had a lot of contact with Mattie. Especially during the worlds in 2010. She never accused him of knowing anything about the Nassar abuse. She just accused him of treating her badly and being verbally awful to her after that.
Mattie Larson said that she was shunned by the national team staff, which included Valeri Liukin. I don't see what him not being her coach has to do with anything.
E M I don’t know him at all, but those comments are probably due to him being Russian and his ways of training being most likely Soviet/Russian too, meaning very strict and very tough. That, to anyone outside those countries, has always been seen as "abusive", China’s way of training has been considered like that too. And that’s how Bela Karolyi used to train kids like Nadia Comaneci in Romania too. A different time and a different way of doing things.
E M Brazil certainly isn’t complaining and I’ve seen coaches tweet that they miss his coaching seminars at national team camps. He was the development coach for the younger generation like Rylie, Morgan etc for years.
@E M You are completely right. I was just stating that, nowadays, people uses the term abusive very lightly. I mean, if I was a gymnast I would hate that kind of coaching because I do things much better in a more welcoming environment with encouragement, patience and counseling. In spite of that there is not point in denying that some of the things they do actually work. Certain kids do strive in a more strict environment with rules, toughness and a more militar kind of training. Again, I am not an expert, just a fan. And I agree there are newer and better ways of teaching too.
maybe,we will never know what happened or what went on behind closed doors. we will never know if he was involved or note, im guessing not because his own daughter was subjected to it
It wasn't his job to placate her. He wasn't even the coach of that world team. Have any of you people ever played sports? You don't get involved with other coaches athletes.
I think people forget that at the core of USAG practices is one thing only: medals=money. I'm sure Valeri was told to keep his mouth shut and not stand up for anyone. Maybe he wanted to do that but couldn't because USAG and Marta had all the power. His daughter had a dream and even after 2008, he still had to watch what he said and did because maybe Nastia wanted to come back and they were looking into it? It really goes back to the mindset of not protecting the athletes first and always. Did he fail there? Maybe. We don't know. We weren't there. I'm not defending anyone but I will say the whole culture of silence in gymnastics is total crap. No one should be abused to achieve their dream. My gut says he was changing his ways because some of the current ladies said that he took them to the beach one day after a hard work out and let them relax and have fun. Marta would never have done that. Maybe people are assuming a lot too. I just think the culture is of silence and even if you see something you are told to keep your mouth shut. Maybe he was told the same thing?
People "are" assuming. Innocent people are being accused , while I'm certain some guilty are not. We will never know who knew what for certain. But you say "Martha never would have done that"... yet, you "do" realize that Martha was the "National Team Coordinator" and NOT their coach! She met with the girls ONCE A MONTH for 2-3 DAYS! And while no, no beach, it was a FARM... full of zoo animals for the girls to relax and enjoy. At least that was the theory behind it. Martha rarely made suggestions to the girls directly. The girls were not even allowed to attend camp without their personal coaches. Martha would talk to the coach and pass it on over a two or three day period and then they headed back to their own gyms and applied. Martha was not cruel. Martha was FEARED. But she wasn't feared because she was cruel...SHE WAS FEARED BECAUSE SHE WAS THE "1" PERSON ON THE PLANET WHO COULD MAKE OR BREAK LIFELONG OLYMPIC DREAMS!! Watch ANY training videos from camp and you see the personal coaches right there with their gymnasts. Also, the accusations the Karolyis "allowed" that scumbag to abuse there?.... I'm sorry but I do not think they deserve the hate they are getting (God help me if I'm wrong). If parents, friends, and even coaches who were RIGHT THERE in the room, even chatting with the girls while the abuse was taking place, and they had no idea (even the girls didn't know it was sexual abuse) , then how would the karolyi's know? I do not believe they were aware of the horrific things Nassar was doing. I think Penny lied to everyone and shushed them all towards the end as everything was coming to light. I also do not believe Valeri was aware. I just cant. Your are SO right about the culture of silence. ANY Olympic sport is a harsh hardcore training environment on many levels. But very few, such as Gymnastics and iceskating, happen to be olympic sports involving CHILDREN and of course should have been managed 10000% better. Penny? He knew it all. He is the one who hid it all to cover his own ass. Who paid off Maroney and lied to everyone. He should be locked up FOR LIFE!! As should the head of MSU (he may well be). Sorry about the rambling. I still get crazy emotional on this topic. But again, having been to the ranch myself AND my daughter years later? I do not believe it was "allowed" as they've been accused. It was just ignorantly and naively not even a thought in anyone's minds. It breaks my heart that this world is such that it HAS to be
Nastia, I suggest you not talk wit the young lady who accused your father of wrong doing. That would not look good in the eyes of the laws. After the investigation, you can approach her. Anything more would be seen as intimidation!
If the gymnast accusing him had Nastia's father as a coach or not, that's utterly irrelevant. He could've found other opportunities to do something sick. And undermining her experience and questioning it by saying "iDk WhY sHe'D dO tHaT" is just a bit off to me. Idk if maybe she's trying to cover up for something but-. Not to mention, turning someone else's horrid experience, invalid is just unethical and disrespectful in my eyes
And valerie was in charge of developmental camps so he coached many girls even though he wasn't their coach. And now there's many of his gymnasts from the past are speaking out and some have even said he's reached out to damage control cause he wants the head coach job.
Correct. Predators do know who to groom and who not to. However, now that she knows she should quit as a commentator. How can she still work for an organization that promotes child abuse?
You pretend that fathers don't commit this abuse all the time. You forget where Valeri came from, that winning at all costs philosophy could have very well come into play here.
@@rebornsnuzzles2573 Valeri didn't even know anything as his only priority was to be a coach and mind his own business. Sure, winning was almost anything to him, but his #1 priority was to make sure to win safely
Do you know them in real life? I don't. We only see what they want you to see and know. Watch the new documentary and it will make you sick at what really goes on.
I’m sure she knew about it since she was surrounded by kids who were abused by Larry N. Unfortunately her dad was part of the system, mentally abusing kids, calling them fat and weighting them twice a day (e.g Kaitlyn Ohasi). I think the whole US gymnastic scene was toxic - full of these Eastern European middle aged/old guys who knew how to make people win, but who didn’t care that kids got destroyed along the way. It’s good that we are talking about these things nowadays and these people disappeared from the scene.
Yes, Valeri Liukin never coached Mattie Larson, however he was part of the team of adults who shut her out because they blamed her for "loosing the Gold Medal" after her fall on floor. Hence, he contributed to the culture of fear and abuse that she described in her impact statement (and that she has suffered from SO much). Mattie had EVERY right to bring up that story in court. She was raising concern that people in charge now were the same than before the scandal. I am REALLY disappointed in Nastia for trying to discredit Mattie, especially because she must know why Mattie mentioned Valeri, and that coaching had nothing to do with it. It really feels like victim shaming and then she pretends her heart still hurts...
Unfortunately she doesn’t get it because she wasn’t subjected to it because daddy was in a very high position of power, and no doubt a smart man. Larry went after people who he knew were vulnerable and in some cases in desperate situations. I believe she was not a victim of his because he was scared of her father and the power and respect that people have for him. I truly believe that’s what it comes down to because you know if he ever had touched her that would’ve been the end for him.The Karolyis would’ve believed him no doubt.
I'm genuinely confused about it. If he's not her coach how involved could he be to have to actively shut her out? He had no responsibility to do anything whether she performed well or not. We don't know but she had to have been sensitive in such distress and it does seem inappropriate to drop his name when her care wasn't his responsibility.
@@brittaho2098 He was coaching an other athlete (who was prominent) on the team and thus was part of the team of adult that was there. He had a lot of influence amongst the team of adult that was there as he was the owner of the gym that had produced 2 All Around Olympic Gold Medalist (Carly and Nastia). So he was an important guy with a lot of influence. And he basically influenced everyone to pretend like she did not exist because she had failed her floor pass (it was not her just being sensitive, everybody was awful to her). Later, he was named US team coordinator (one of USAG's most important position : you basically are in charge of choosing the teams). When Mattie mentioned him in her impact statement it was to point out that "a guy acting like that is now in the most powerful position, this can be dangerous for future athletes".
I think she didn't say her name to avoid like a "name and shame" thing, but it was shitty the way she addressed it and like cocked her head to the side and said all that other rude shit. dumb.
Miriam Sheppard I don’t think she was cocking her head to be a bitch. I just think she was uncomfortable. I do that a lot when I’m uncomfortable or I’m trying not to cry.
Nastia's bad attitude is well known. Go look up her statement after she refused to sign autographs for the kids at the Woga Classic. No one was supposed to sign autographs but everyone did including Carly Patterson but Nastia told kids no and was rude to a lot of them about it and she was so rude her dad made her apologize and the comment she left was the same defiant attitude she has in this video. You are 100% right about the name thing and no one should be bitchy about her defending her father. Most daughters would. @@miriamsheppard6162
L Vega Mattie did not insinuate that Valery was too a child molester, she just addressed that the way of coaching was one of the elements that allowed Nassar’ atrocities to happen. All of the conversation surrounding this scandal has been about adults not believing the athletes and she comes out and totally dismisses Mattie’s claims? Nastia came out terribly with that response and you’re delusional if you don’t see it
FOR THE RECORD about the World Championships Mattie was complaining about ,these same coaches BEGGED Marta to use her for team finals AFTER she fell in prelims. They defended her at one point and Marta relented and used her and she fell again. That's why they were mad and she wasn't a child at this point, she was 19. ( concerning this so called shunning) people forget these same coaches helped give her a second chance . No one ever mentions that.
Isabella Ella Even at 19, people can still feel like crap when they are shunned the way Mattie was. No one is indestructible in any way, shape or form, and that includes our emotions.
Isabella Ella for the record she didn’t want to go to the camp. She purposefully hit her head on her bathroom wall to stop from going. And Marta said oh so and do fell out of bed and still made this team.
I cannot believe Nastia has continued to defend her father despite pretty damning abuse allegations. Take Katelyn Ohashi for example. What's worse is other parents are STILL sending their kids to train with him. Just ridiculous
@@Musickt196 That is not a good reason. If it turned out my dad was a horrible person who abused people, I wouldn't insist he was innocent. I wouldn't blindly defend him. Nastia Liukin was what, 25+ years old when this all came out? Absolutely old enough to hold her dad accountable
@@Musickt196 Ummm yeah that's not gonna work. You don't defend abusers. I mean would you support a cop brushing evidence under the rug so their dad wouldn't be held accountable for a felony? I sure hope not. Seriously, live in reality
@@colesmith7509 there's a reason why the term "conflict of interest" exists. She likely has complicated feelings about it because HE IS HER FATHER. Give her a break because it's a hard thing to call your dad horrible names. But based on your extremely rude comments, I already know she's a nicer person than you.
Of course it wouldn't happen to Nastia bc of who her dad is in the sport. If Nassar would've done it to her, he would've been caught much much sooner. Nassar knew better than to mess with Nastia for lots of reasons. If Valeri did know it was going on, I'm sure there was an understanding that Nastia was off limits. (I'm not saying he DID know but, if he did, I'm sure he had that understanding with Nassar.)
TheNonMakeupGuru Yes many parents were present during the pelvic treatment because that treatment is legit pain relief but Nassar tainted that treatment with his bad thoughts and intent
She isn’t really supportive of the customs. “I guess he was doing it while parents were in the room”. She “guesses?”. I suspect that someday she’ll have a deeper understanding all of all of this and we will hear another statement from her quite different from this one
She is so gorgeous and I think intelligent. Very well spoken. I fully believe she wasn't assaulted or she'd say so. I think she wasn't was Because Nasar new Velari would have killed him. No one else had that close of a person in her everyday existence of gymnastics.
Nastia liked posts by Nassar on her facebook AFTER he was accused by a lot of girls. Including posts where Nassar was implying he was innocent. She defended him at first. She can't deny that too many people in the gym community know about it. The fact that she's trying to make money off of what happened disgusts me. Her grander website mentioned her wanting to help fix what happened after she defended Nassar she should be ashamed.
Isabella Ella Well, of course she did. He was her physician and was a master manipulator. Do you think he got away with what he did for all that time without being charming and able to get others to support him?
God forbid anybody ever lives and learns from a situation, right? God forbid a human being goes through the natural stage of denial. Give her a break, she's openly stated in this interview that she understands why people were upset with her. She learned, and then she wanted to help be a part of the healing process for the survivors. Would you prefer she didn't support them? Damned if she does, damned if she doesn't.
Valeri Lukin has CTE. Nastia knows this but is not speaking up about the catastophic problem with head injuries in the sport. All the top athletes run and get a expensive SPECT scans that shows head trauma but they dont say anything meanwhile some parent is taking there 4 year old to gymnastics not knowing all the top athletes have TBI and potentailly CTE and there 4 year old is heading down the same path. Its time to start scanning politicians, firefighters, police officers, gymnyst, gymnastic coaches, gymnastic TEAM DOCTERS and HUMANS. It is a ORGAN we all have called the brain!!!!!!when it works good you work good and when you hurt it you hurt your life.
Out of all the talented people who have the potential to host a tv show, they picked her!? I feel that she never seems truly genuine or connected when she interviews people.
Pamela English l love the way Morgan McCaul blasted Joel Ferguson for attempting to do just that. How was this trivial or paltry? It was a huge disgrace by the very people who were supposed to be preventing that kind of thing from happening to their own clients. As she put it in the interview with the press, I don't know how he slept that night either.
lmao she kept quiet because she knew her father was an enabler to this culture and Nassar's touchy feely procedures. Now she's trying to save face and her career and apologize.
This interview confirmed something which I have suspected from the beginning. Nastia chose her words very wisely, but you can almost here the undertone in her voice that implies that Mattie Larson is F&%KING crazy! I'm not trying to bash her, Mattie that is. I think that what she endured is horrifying and I hope that she is able to overcome the trauma that all of this has left on her psyche. However, after she made her court appearance, almost every other time you saw her (I remember 4 times: 1)NBC morning show, 2)ABC 20/20, 3)Lifetime aired a special after the Simone Biles movie premiered, 4)HBO [I think it was the show VICE]) she spent the majority of her time just dragging Bela & Martha Karolyi and talking about how horribly they treated her while at the Ranch. Yes, I'm sure it happened, but how did her testimony against Larry Nassar suddenly branch off into a witch hunt against the Karolyi's, Valeri Liukin and others? In a way, Mattie is still suffering from Larry's grooming techniques by taking her justified anger against him and redirecting it at an undeserving, but plausible, scapegoat.
Because it happened at the Ranch .. How could you trust and seek help from adults who treat you so badly and are verbally abusive towards you? Also if they think you are weak or trouble it would just reduce your chances of making the national / Olympic team.. Martha would just kick her out and cover it up! There are so many things to consider in her position. Clearly it affected her a lot! As for Valeri.. come on.. You can't understand that she singled him out? It's because he was one of the adults who were part of the system that abused the athletes and treated them as useless unless they win medals. HE was given the job as coordinator of the national team, which means even if the Karolyis aren't there anymore, the culture will still continue. Valeri himself admitted that that was the system he grew up in and used in his own coaching. Stop victim blaming! Nastia will never admit her dad has ever done anything wrong.. it's her father and perhaps she SHARES HIS VIEWS? Who knows? Look up on what other gymnasts Valeri has coached say about him..
She annoys the hell out of me. I went to NYU and ran into her multiple times, she's so full of herself. I really dislike how she kinda throws Mattie under the bus. This is one of the times where she should just stop talking
Matthew T. Adrik yeah that’s exactly how it seemed. Arrogance. It wasn’t outright bitchiness when I met her but definitely a sense of entitlement and arrogance, and more of a snobby vibe I got. Hard to explain.
So nassar never abused her. He was professional with her..so does mean her dad knew what was going on and like threatened nassar keep his hands of his kid. Its confusing. Though Nadia looks like an angel. The same with Miller he never abused her and the same with Moceanu it seems, the same with Strug though he is in the screen shot of helping her off the poduim. I guess molesters pry on victims whose parents are too involved or clueless?????
Give her a break. Of course she is going to defend her father as anybody would. And as far as I know, there are no other abuse complaints in regards to Valarie Liukin
Reading the comments why is everyone getting mad at her Nassar knew touching the girls on the 2008 team was likely to expose him especially given how much Valeri was apart of the inner circle Nassar was smart enough to know he would have been done in by touching any of those girls so I don’t think it’s fair or right to blame her for saying he was professional with her and the other girls when he was nor is right for people to get mad at her for defending her father who by the way didn’t do anything wrong you can’t blame him for any of this when it’s more than likely he had no clue about any of it
She wasn't blaming Valeri for Nassar, but for shunning her along with the other coaches after she didn't perform well at the Olympics. Her point was that Valeri was part of the abuse culture, and that she was concerned because he had been raised to a prominent position in USAG, an organization that desperately needed change, not more of the same
Kym Jacobs no I get that but the commenters are shunning her for stating the fact that he was professional with her and he was to all or most of this girls in that team because it was to great of a risk for him to do something like that but him being apart of the abuse culture itself there is no denying he definitely played a part there
@@surgeon1016 I agree with you that it's not right for anyone to blame Nastia for what happened, or for defending her father. She could have and should have been a little more sensitive about it, and she also missed the point. It wasn't about the fact that Valeri wasn't Matties personal coach
Sadly, that is the first sign of a millenial. The second sign, in regards to speech, is using the word "anyways". That "s" does not exist. The final word is "irregardless". Sadly, this shows the degradation of education from speech and critical thinking, to humility and selflessness. I say this as a millenial whose mother worked tirelessly to ensure that I did not make those mistakes. I, too, make some of them, but am ashamed when I do and try to make corrections- unlike most millenials and the suceeding generations. They have no shame or guilt. They feel that they should be loved, flaws and all. That how they behave at home is acceptable in mixed company and locales. It drives me crazy, as it does you when you hear "like" repeatedly!
Is it bad I still feel like she might be in denial? I kind of feel like she was assaulted but just won’t accept it. Maybe she was one of the lucky ones who wasn’t but if he was near her that much I feel it was likely she was assaulted.
K Williams Is it worrying at all to you that she is the only important person in planet who doesn’t just give in to ALL the claims in the Nassar case and because of that she is constantly attacked on every video on YT and most Instagrams in the comment sections. A rational person would have to say that it looks like a angry mob against her and her father going on four years later
I'm not defending anyone. I just hope that Mattie did elaborate what really happened and how these people abused her. She just dropped some of tha names without proper explanation.
I think she still doesn't quite get or understand how it happened... I kinda thibk she doesn't believe it... And i actually can see how its hard 4 her bcuz her father was named also... So she thinks if they lying on her pops then... U know...
Yeah , I'm just listening to Nastia , she seems a bit out of touch . And yes , she wasn't abused bc of her father . Also , during the victim impact statements , her father wasn't spoken of all that well idk .
Funny I noticed same thing, her tits are hanging out in every interview with a male athlete & dresses like a church lady interviewing women..strange vibes.
People need to understand that Mattie said that there is abuse happening at MY gym (which isn’t true at all). She didn’t go to my gym, so she didn’t know what she was talking about. It’s the same thing with the things she said about Valeri. I’m with Nastia here. I understand that Mattie went through this abuse and it was so heartbreaking and she didn’t deserve it at all, but she’s just a little ignorant and she’s putting too much blame on the wrong people. Mattie was probably trying to figure out the heart of the issue, but flat out trying to destroy people’s careers instead of giving people a chance now that this horrifying news is out doesn’t help anyone.
@@michaelhart7282 I am not saying this is the case with Nastia, but the recent arrests of celebrities, by the FBI, seals the deal on kids of wealthy parents attending certain really good universities, like NYU, after major 'donations' to the school. Nothing of it was on their merit, just the other M word, money. The charges being brought by the US attorney's office shows how wide-spread the problem is with it involving several actors' kids, several schools, and several Benjamins, with all of it to secure their acceptance to said schools. The NCAA may get involved, because some of the kids were given athletic scholarships, after the 'donations' to nust secure acceptance to the school, and not because the kid was a true athlete.
L Vega what a horribly insensitive comment. I am glad that you have never had to experience sexual assault first hand. Many survivors of sexual abuse (or any abuse) suffer from a lot of psychological harm which, unfortunately, can lead to death by suicide in some cases, or the inability to lead a “normal” life following the abuse. So yes, they are all survivors.
Jack Mathys not gossip if it comes from the horses mouth! I understand your concerns but it’s certainly not gossip if the questions are asked directly to the source !
i love how shawn and nastia are so open about them not being friends after beijing and then reconnecting so much later.
Shawn just had a baby. She posted a picture of Nastia holding the baby. So glad they are friends again.
liceous their besties, she’s Aunty Nastia to baby drew ❤️
Candyce Cain
They were friends the entire time. They were roommates during the Olympics and every competition they were friends for years but they had to go along with what the media wanted them to do. With that they felt like it was hurting each other.
Nicole Skorupsky i can’t remember correctly but i think they both said something along the lines of, the results of the Olympics is what affected their friendship. Shawn admitted to being jealous that Nastia won more medals than her and the biggest thing is the fact that Nastia won the all around and not her. It was mostly all from Shawn’s side, the jealousy and failure she said she felt after the Olympics and that’s what drove them apart. But I’m really glad they have both moved on and are great friends again and Nastia is apart of Shawn’s baby’s life, baby drew! 💗💗🥰🥰
bonsai jam no that’s not what happened at all. The media and fans kept driving the narrative of that they hated each other and it got between them
Nastia's experience with Nassar is different from the other girls because her father was her coach. If Nastia God forbid was bein abused she would tell her father and be heard as a daughter not an athlete.
Nastia's father never took his eyes off of her.
Nassar didn't touch her because Valeri was part of the whole system of enabling his behavior.
@@ArmBradPitt how?
@@ruslanasidaruk8043 It's pretty well known now the coaches in USAG were aware of Larry as well as accusations from former gymnasts. Yet Valeri chose to stick around because his family's legacy of winners meant more than the safety and well being of other kids. Thats why he ultimately stepped down as well.
@@ArmBradPitt Like NASTIA HAS SAID SHOW ME DIRECT PROOF HECK VALERI IS NOT EVEN IN PRISON?
I cant believe people got angry simply because she said she WAS NOT molested & he had only been professional with her.
Nastia has NOTHING to apologize for.... she & Shawn had fierce protectors & Larry knew that. He did this for decades. He knew what he could and could not get away with it. Larry had so many enablers & thankfully for them, Valeri & Qiao were not 2 of them.
I think the reason it became such a problem was people were sharing their stories and her statement wasn't in support of them while expressing her experience, it was in complete opposition to what they said without supporting. Nastia is amazing and I support her so much but it was a poorly worded statement
I'm sorry but she does by still working for an organization that promotes child abuse that she was really part of but we'll never really know. She was on the National Team and their parents weren't allowed to visit them while they were at that camp. She had to know that things were happening even if it wasn't happening to her. If she really didn't she does now and should leave the business or go out of her way to create a safer place for young gymnasts to train. Use her knowledge, power, and money for good.
I agree. She got in trouble speaking from her own experience and defending her father (I would do the EXACT same thing).
Bunny Davenport You sound stupid
@@tiadavenport5465 there is so much shame associated with these crimes that people will hide it even from their friends. Think of all the girls you've known in school....now imagine how many you thought had these kinds of problems in their life. You are stuck with these people for hours upon hours everyday and you dont know most of what they gi through. Add the level of focus and attention needed to become the top atheletes in their field...yea...its very likely that it wasnt known amongst the group.
How do you think the program is going to improve....everyone who is good and really cares leaves and only those that were part of the problem stay? The good ones need to stay and the bad one need to go...so that the company can be the healthy place for future athletes. Organizations don't change from the outside.
I really don’t think Valeri knew. If you notice none of the girls on the Beijing team were abused. I think Nassar knew it would be taking too much of a chance to try one of them and have Valeri find out. Maybe he knew that if Valeri found out then his ass would be fried.
Anyway, like Nastia said. There’s no way in fuck he would let her continue to see him if he knew.
Julie Элизабет I agree with this. I can’t imagine a way Valeri, as a father to a young girl on the team, would know something like that and be able to cover it up especially when Nastia clearly has a tight relationship with her father.
Yes also Chelsea Memmel dad was also a national coach
@@MH-il2ps It is unlikely any of them were since Mr. Memmel and Mr. Liukin were such a huge part of the fray and that whole time minus Shawn who was the outsider of the group were good friends. There is no way word would not have gotten out. Nassar is a sicko but he was also quite shrewd. He would know full well he would never get away with it with this group with 2 of the biggest stars of the team who were a tight clique coached by Dads. The 2012 group and others were far easier.
You can also sense by watching the subtle body language of the 2012 team with Nassar in the background and how the 2008 team behaved.
@@silverpurkat yes! Very noticeable
Her saying that he was always very professional with her, doesn’t mean that she didn’t believe it. I think she was just stating the fact that he was professional with her. She’s not an insensitive person.
Exactly
Couldn’t agree more. If you want to read a truly insensitive and cold reaction to the abuse, read Svetlana Khorkina’s interview published in The Guardian on her reaction to the Nassar case, as well as abuse in gymnastics worldwide. She’s a truly awful human being.
Exactly. She’s saying he was always professional with her and this is why she nor her father knew anything about it. That’s all.
I think he left her alone BECAUSE of who her dad is.
@@dananezat I would agree AND I AM POSITIVE HER DAD I THINK COULD HAVE DONE SOMETHING WORSE TO NASSAR HECK I WOULD HAVE LOVED TO GO AFTER NASSAR HECK IF I WAS AROUND TRY ME I WOULD HAVE DECKED HIM!!!!
People are really in the comments asking why Nastia defended her father? Have a little compassion people. Imagine being asked to chose between your father and a victim. This is a very difficult situation for all parties involved but I don't think people have the right to call out Nastia for being loyal towards her father.
@Davy Lau This will probably sound cold, but consider her relationship with her father - or at least the one you can see on TV. He's a coach, he's Russian, and he comes off as very cold towards even his daughter most of the time. But y'know that's their relationship and I think because of it, and because of her life choices re: Olympics, she's a very tough skinned person... and I can see how any gymnast whining about being shunned or neglected can seem like, well like whining. It doesn't seem as legitimate of an accusation as being molested. I'm sure it was very tough but I'm sorry that's a little bit to do with the career they're in. Being pushed to be better is usually not seen as being comforted and celebrated. I DON'T think it's fair to say he contributed to an environment where it's ok to be molested.
@Davy Lau Mattie was a huge crybaby. She didn't jump complain about the Nassar abuse which was fully legit but about Marta's tough coaching techniques at the trial. Marta was not on trial so that was completely out of place to begin with, and she seemed to resent anyone who was tough, not just the abusive ones, and expects everyone to follow her. People like Nassar are disgusting but people like Marta who are tough are just part of the sport if you want to succeed. That is why someone like Mattie who are soft never succeeded in the sport.
Ry Shep I’m not asking why but I think people need to realize she’s not a reliable person to trust on this.
tyler bam that's not entirely true, in that the idea is the tense atmosphere was partially what allowed Nassar to gain the girls' trust by posing as the "good guy." And it's not necessarily true that coaches HAVE to be like that to get winners. Look at Shawn Johnson's (and Gabby Douglas's) coach, Liang Chow. No one ever made any kind of allegations of him being emotionally abusive in any way--he treated all of his gymnasts like his own children and was absolutely beloved by all of them by all accounts. But that being said, an unnecessarily tough atmosphere doesn't make the coaches morally accountable when a sick pervert takes advantage of that circumstance to get at young girls that way--but it does acknowledge that this sort of thing would be less possible in an environment like Chow's gym where the coach IS also seen as the good guy and there's no need for someone like Nassar to pose in that role.
bananaxo Sorry bud, but if the gymnasts who trained with him for decades say otherwise, your opinion as some rando is really insignificant. Shunning a child for a human mistake absolutely does ostracize them and make it much easier for a pedo to creep their way in. Y’all wanna say “it’s the nature of the environment” no, the nature of the environment is inherently tough, not abusive. If you have to be abusive to get something out of your gymnasts, you’re just not good enough as a coach. If you expect literal children to toughen up when being abused for a medal, I think maybe, just maybe, you wanna go ahead and reverse the roles. Maybe it’s time to put Valeri in a similar, toxic environment with our criticism because well, maybe that’ll make him a good coach, and apparently humankind has descended to that level.
Valeri would probably kill L. Nasser if he knew what was going on.
Then why didn't he do something? They all want the Olympics too much to do anything. Watch Athlete A and they'll you'll see why so many didn't speak up when they should've. Any parent who hands their baby girl over and turns a blind eye on the entire process is stupid. If my child came home and shared that some doctor was touching her he'd be gone.
@@tiadavenport5465 He didn't know! Every interaction he and Nassar had was completely professional as he even allowed Nastia to be treated
@@tiadavenport5465 You are absolutely right.
@@tiadavenport5465 how are you going to do something when you don’t know about it.
LOL Valeri knew. Don't kid yourself.
I understand that nastia would defend her dad ofcourse , and i love her but she could have phrased it better not basically threaten a gymnast that gave a testimony based on her own perspective , Mattie larson said that the comitee, coaches and the karolys including valeri shunned her and treated her horribly after costing the team gold in 2010 worlds, being her coach or not isnt relevant, and lets face it valeri and the coaches in general were known to being extremely strict about diet, training, skills , his track record with any gymnast he coached except nastia was horrible, rebecca bross injured herself so many times to count and was pushed so harshly, katlyn ohashi did a difficult 7.3 sv routine as a junior and ended up with a broken back and retired
I completely agree. Beautifully articulated. I feel like Nastia came off really arrogant, pretentious, and extremely condescending during her response to that question. Like you mentioned, just because Valeri wasn’t Mattie’s coach, doesn’t mean that Mattie’s experience was wrong, false, pr should be discredited or diminished.
I was trying to word it and couldn’t. You literally worded it perfectly!
Agreed. It makes sense that Nastia was like “it doesn’t make sense my dad never even coach this athlete.” However coaches had influence over athletes that weren’t just theirs. Because of the camps all the coaches and all the athletes were together so they all knew each other. Valeri could’ve had a lot of contact with Mattie. Especially during the worlds in 2010. She never accused him of knowing anything about the Nassar abuse. She just accused him of treating her badly and being verbally awful to her after that.
I love both nastia and Shawn they are exceptional both as athletes but there good down to earth people too
Mattie Larson said that she was shunned by the national team staff, which included Valeri Liukin. I don't see what him not being her coach has to do with anything.
E M I don’t know him at all, but those comments are probably due to him being Russian and his ways of training being most likely Soviet/Russian too, meaning very strict and very tough. That, to anyone outside those countries, has always been seen as "abusive", China’s way of training has been considered like that too. And that’s how Bela Karolyi used to train kids like Nadia Comaneci in Romania too. A different time and a different way of doing things.
E M Brazil certainly isn’t complaining and I’ve seen coaches tweet that they miss his coaching seminars at national team camps. He was the development coach for the younger generation like Rylie, Morgan etc for years.
@E M You are completely right. I was just stating that, nowadays, people uses the term abusive very lightly. I mean, if I was a gymnast I would hate that kind of coaching because I do things much better in a more welcoming environment with encouragement, patience and counseling. In spite of that there is not point in denying that some of the things they do actually work. Certain kids do strive in a more strict environment with rules, toughness and a more militar kind of training. Again, I am not an expert, just a fan. And I agree there are newer and better ways of teaching too.
maybe,we will never know what happened or what went on behind closed doors. we will never know if he was involved or note, im guessing not because his own daughter was subjected to it
It wasn't his job to placate her. He wasn't even the coach of that world team. Have any of you people ever played sports? You don't get involved with other coaches athletes.
Wait, Nassar is responsible for nastias success??? Tf??? He was out there doing the moves and stunts for her??? No ma’am.
I think people forget that at the core of USAG practices is one thing only: medals=money. I'm sure Valeri was told to keep his mouth shut and not stand up for anyone. Maybe he wanted to do that but couldn't because USAG and Marta had all the power. His daughter had a dream and even after 2008, he still had to watch what he said and did because maybe Nastia wanted to come back and they were looking into it? It really goes back to the mindset of not protecting the athletes first and always. Did he fail there? Maybe. We don't know. We weren't there. I'm not defending anyone but I will say the whole culture of silence in gymnastics is total crap. No one should be abused to achieve their dream. My gut says he was changing his ways because some of the current ladies said that he took them to the beach one day after a hard work out and let them relax and have fun. Marta would never have done that. Maybe people are assuming a lot too. I just think the culture is of silence and even if you see something you are told to keep your mouth shut. Maybe he was told the same thing?
Truth
He didnt know.
@@jojox9791 How do you know?
People "are" assuming. Innocent people are being accused , while I'm certain some guilty are not. We will never know who knew what for certain. But you say "Martha never would have done that"... yet, you "do" realize that Martha was the "National Team Coordinator" and NOT their coach! She met with the girls ONCE A MONTH for 2-3 DAYS! And while no, no beach, it was a FARM... full of zoo animals for the girls to relax and enjoy. At least that was the theory behind it. Martha rarely made suggestions to the girls directly. The girls were not even allowed to attend camp without their personal coaches. Martha would talk to the coach and pass it on over a two or three day period and then they headed back to their own gyms and applied. Martha was not cruel. Martha was FEARED. But she wasn't feared because she was cruel...SHE WAS FEARED BECAUSE SHE WAS THE "1" PERSON ON THE PLANET WHO COULD MAKE OR BREAK LIFELONG OLYMPIC DREAMS!! Watch ANY training videos from camp and you see the personal coaches right there with their gymnasts.
Also, the accusations the Karolyis "allowed" that scumbag to abuse there?.... I'm sorry but I do not think they deserve the hate they are getting (God help me if I'm wrong). If parents, friends, and even coaches who were RIGHT THERE in the room, even chatting with the girls while the abuse was taking place, and they had no idea (even the girls didn't know it was sexual abuse) , then how would the karolyi's know? I do not believe they were aware of the horrific things Nassar was doing. I think Penny lied to everyone and shushed them all towards the end as everything was coming to light. I also do not believe Valeri was aware. I just cant. Your are SO right about the culture of silence. ANY Olympic sport is a harsh hardcore training environment on many levels. But very few, such as Gymnastics and iceskating, happen to be olympic sports involving CHILDREN and of course should have been managed 10000% better. Penny? He knew it all. He is the one who hid it all to cover his own ass. Who paid off Maroney and lied to everyone. He should be locked up FOR LIFE!! As should the head of MSU (he may well be). Sorry about the rambling. I still get crazy emotional on this topic. But again, having been to the ranch myself AND my daughter years later? I do not believe it was "allowed" as they've been accused. It was just ignorantly and naively not even a thought in anyone's minds. It breaks my heart that this world is such that it HAS to be
JoJo 70 your rambling was well worth it! I wish more people had the chance to read this coming from a gymnast and then your daughter also!! ❤️❤️
Nastia, I suggest you not talk wit the young lady who accused your father of wrong doing. That would not look good in the eyes of the laws. After the investigation, you can approach her. Anything more would be seen as intimidation!
If the gymnast accusing him had Nastia's father as a coach or not, that's utterly irrelevant. He could've found other opportunities to do something sick. And undermining her experience and questioning it by saying "iDk WhY sHe'D dO tHaT" is just a bit off to me. Idk if maybe she's trying to cover up for something but-. Not to mention, turning someone else's horrid experience, invalid is just unethical and disrespectful in my eyes
And valerie was in charge of developmental camps so he coached many girls even though he wasn't their coach. And now there's many of his gymnasts from the past are speaking out and some have even said he's reached out to damage control cause he wants the head coach job.
Maybe Nassar was very professional with her. Why is that a issue for anyone. I goes to show that Nassar discriminate with whom he chose to molest.
Correct. Predators do know who to groom and who not to. However, now that she knows she should quit as a commentator. How can she still work for an organization that promotes child abuse?
Dont judge her. I dont think any of you would belive that your own father would know about something like that and kept it to himself ???
i dont put anything past communists. they arent good people
You pretend that fathers don't commit this abuse all the time. You forget where Valeri came from, that winning at all costs philosophy could have very well come into play here.
You clearly don't know how the Olympics works or Elite programs do. If you speak up then you're blacklisted. He watched his back but no one else.
@@rebornsnuzzles2573 Valeri didn't even know anything as his only priority was to be a coach and mind his own business. Sure, winning was almost anything to him, but his #1 priority was to make sure to win safely
Nastia says he did it in a way that no one knew. Actually people did KNOW but chose to stay silent.
She means the parents of the athletes
@@elorahancock3581 some of them knew and ignored their children
That doesn’t mean her dad knew.
Liukin settled a DIFFERENT sexual assault allegation against a DIFFERENT coach at his gym. JS
Ashley-Meggan Bowie Do you have a link to a news article about that
Do you know them in real life? I don't. We only see what they want you to see and know. Watch the new documentary and it will make you sick at what really goes on.
I’m sure she knew about it since she was surrounded by kids who were abused by Larry N. Unfortunately her dad was part of the system, mentally abusing kids, calling them fat and weighting them twice a day (e.g Kaitlyn Ohasi). I think the whole US gymnastic scene was toxic - full of these Eastern European middle aged/old guys who knew how to make people win, but who didn’t care that kids got destroyed along the way. It’s good that we are talking about these things nowadays and these people disappeared from the scene.
Yes, Valeri Liukin never coached Mattie Larson, however he was part of the team of adults who shut her out because they blamed her for "loosing the Gold Medal" after her fall on floor. Hence, he contributed to the culture of fear and abuse that she described in her impact statement (and that she has suffered from SO much).
Mattie had EVERY right to bring up that story in court. She was raising concern that people in charge now were the same than before the scandal.
I am REALLY disappointed in Nastia for trying to discredit Mattie, especially because she must know why Mattie mentioned Valeri, and that coaching had nothing to do with it. It really feels like victim shaming and then she pretends her heart still hurts...
THIS. Fuck Nastia and her wrinkled nose for even saying that shit.
Unfortunately she doesn’t get it because she wasn’t subjected to it because daddy was in a very high position of power, and no doubt a smart man. Larry went after people who he knew were vulnerable and in some cases in desperate situations. I believe she was not a victim of his because he was scared of her father and the power and respect that people have for him. I truly believe that’s what it comes down to because you know if he ever had touched her that would’ve been the end for him.The Karolyis would’ve believed him no doubt.
I'm genuinely confused about it. If he's not her coach how involved could he be to have to actively shut her out? He had no responsibility to do anything whether she performed well or not. We don't know but she had to have been sensitive in such distress and it does seem inappropriate to drop his name when her care wasn't his responsibility.
@@brittaho2098 He was coaching an other athlete (who was prominent) on the team and thus was part of the team of adult that was there. He had a lot of influence amongst the team of adult that was there as he was the owner of the gym that had produced 2 All Around Olympic Gold Medalist (Carly and Nastia). So he was an important guy with a lot of influence. And he basically influenced everyone to pretend like she did not exist because she had failed her floor pass (it was not her just being sensitive, everybody was awful to her). Later, he was named US team coordinator (one of USAG's most important position : you basically are in charge of choosing the teams). When Mattie mentioned him in her impact statement it was to point out that "a guy acting like that is now in the most powerful position, this can be dangerous for future athletes".
@@m.lizziebrooks8889 exactly
She blocked me on Twitter because someone told her that I called her father a scumbag, which I did
definitely did not like the way she adressed Mattie’s statement... She didn’t even use her name
I think she didn't say her name to avoid like a "name and shame" thing, but it was shitty the way she addressed it and like cocked her head to the side and said all that other rude shit. dumb.
Miriam Sheppard I don’t think she was cocking her head to be a bitch. I just think she was uncomfortable. I do that a lot when I’m uncomfortable or I’m trying not to cry.
Nastia's bad attitude is well known. Go look up her statement after she refused to sign autographs for the kids at the Woga Classic. No one was supposed to sign autographs but everyone did including Carly Patterson but Nastia told kids no and was rude to a lot of them about it and she was so rude her dad made her apologize and the comment she left was the same defiant attitude she has in this video. You are 100% right about the name thing and no one should be bitchy about her defending her father. Most daughters would. @@miriamsheppard6162
there's no necessity to say her name. nastia was keeping it classy.
L Vega Mattie did not insinuate that Valery was too a child molester, she just addressed that the way of coaching was one of the elements that allowed Nassar’ atrocities to happen. All of the conversation surrounding this scandal has been about adults not believing the athletes and she comes out and totally dismisses Mattie’s claims? Nastia came out terribly with that response and you’re delusional if you don’t see it
FOR THE RECORD about the World Championships Mattie was complaining about ,these same coaches BEGGED Marta to use her for team finals AFTER she fell in prelims. They defended her at one point and Marta relented and used her and she fell again. That's why they were mad and she wasn't a child at this point, she was 19. ( concerning this so called shunning) people forget these same coaches helped give her a second chance . No one ever mentions that.
Isabella Ella Even at 19, people can still feel like crap when they are shunned the way Mattie was. No one is indestructible in any way, shape or form, and that includes our emotions.
Isabella Ella for the record she didn’t want to go to the camp. She purposefully hit her head on her bathroom wall to stop from going. And Marta said oh so and do fell out of bed and still made this team.
May I suggest not smiling when inquiring about rape.
Michele Seven that’s often people’s coping mechanism... gosh 😑
I found that odd too.
She's trying to stay positive
Agreed, it was her job to check herself and be more aware
I cannot believe Nastia has continued to defend her father despite pretty damning abuse allegations. Take Katelyn Ohashi for example. What's worse is other parents are STILL sending their kids to train with him. Just ridiculous
I mean he’s her dad…give her a break.
@@Musickt196 That is not a good reason. If it turned out my dad was a horrible person who abused people, I wouldn't insist he was innocent. I wouldn't blindly defend him. Nastia Liukin was what, 25+ years old when this all came out? Absolutely old enough to hold her dad accountable
@@colesmith7509 Unless you have been in that position, you have no right to talk.
@@Musickt196 Ummm yeah that's not gonna work. You don't defend abusers. I mean would you support a cop brushing evidence under the rug so their dad wouldn't be held accountable for a felony? I sure hope not. Seriously, live in reality
@@colesmith7509 there's a reason why the term "conflict of interest" exists. She likely has complicated feelings about it because HE IS HER FATHER. Give her a break because it's a hard thing to call your dad horrible names. But based on your extremely rude comments, I already know she's a nicer person than you.
This fire Ms has come full circle and doing awesome things for those whom need to share or someone to be there i give hella respect to 🌷🙏🌍
I dont understand how this channel doesnt have more subs... Ur doing such a gr8 job kristen
More like her dad did know just didn't want to be caught up in the Scandal & was with Nastia every time she was in Nassar's presence
there was reports of it even happening in when parents were in the same room... i doubt he knew what was going on
Of course it wouldn't happen to Nastia bc of who her dad is in the sport. If Nassar would've done it to her, he would've been caught much much sooner. Nassar knew better than to mess with Nastia for lots of reasons. If Valeri did know it was going on, I'm sure there was an understanding that Nastia was off limits. (I'm not saying he DID know but, if he did, I'm sure he had that understanding with Nassar.)
@@ajimenez1719ify
I think that Valeri didn't know about that, and that Nassar was too scared to mess with Nastia.
That is ugly speculation about Valerie
TheNonMakeupGuru Yes many parents were present during the pelvic treatment because that treatment is legit pain relief but Nassar tainted that treatment with his bad thoughts and intent
She isn’t really supportive of the customs. “I guess he was doing it while parents were in the room”. She “guesses?”. I suspect that someday she’ll have a deeper understanding all of all of this and we will hear another statement from her quite different from this one
She is so gorgeous and I think intelligent. Very well spoken. I fully believe she wasn't assaulted or she'd say so. I think she wasn't was Because Nasar new Velari would have killed him. No one else had that close of a person in her everyday existence of gymnastics.
This show allows any guest that is willing to come on to be asked all types of questions so don’t knock it too quick!
Good luck Kristine!
Why are you doing this even tho you know that she won't read your comment lmao
Why would she make it sound like Mattie was lying?
Raquel Simon because that is her father
R Simon True she was. Just because it didn’t happen to her. Very self absorbed person. New Yorkers could care less is right. They keep it real.
Nastia liked posts by Nassar on her facebook AFTER he was accused by a lot of girls. Including posts where Nassar was implying he was innocent. She defended him at first. She can't deny that too many people in the gym community know about it. The fact that she's trying to make money off of what happened disgusts me. Her grander website mentioned her wanting to help fix what happened after she defended Nassar she should be ashamed.
Isabella Ella - Initially she was in denial. It took her awhile to process what Nassar did. Everyone deals with it differently.
Isabella Ella Well, of course she did. He was her physician and was a master manipulator. Do you think he got away with what he did for all that time without being charming and able to get others to support him?
God forbid anybody ever lives and learns from a situation, right? God forbid a human being goes through the natural stage of denial. Give her a break, she's openly stated in this interview that she understands why people were upset with her. She learned, and then she wanted to help be a part of the healing process for the survivors. Would you prefer she didn't support them? Damned if she does, damned if she doesn't.
Isabella Ella I don't like Nastia's attitude. It's horrible.
Ry Shep Nastia's only pretending to understand. In reality she doesn't want to.
WOW! Still blowing it.
Nastia is gorgeous
Makeup helps.
She blinded me with science. Women do that.
Nastia doesnt really get it....
Valeri Lukin has CTE. Nastia knows this but is not speaking up about the catastophic problem with head injuries in the sport. All the top athletes run and get a expensive SPECT scans that shows head trauma but they dont say anything meanwhile some parent is taking there 4 year old to gymnastics not knowing all the top athletes have TBI and potentailly CTE and there 4 year old is heading down the same path. Its time to start scanning politicians, firefighters, police officers, gymnyst, gymnastic coaches, gymnastic TEAM DOCTERS and HUMANS. It is a ORGAN we all have called the brain!!!!!!when it works good you work good and when you hurt it you hurt your life.
Who was the gymnast that mentioned valeri that he didnt coach? Mattie larson?
Yes she was talking about Mattie.
Mattie was referring to her interactions with Valeri while on the national team.
Out of all the talented people who have the potential to host a tv show, they picked her!? I feel that she never seems truly genuine or connected when she interviews people.
Amy Laubenstein I saw that too. She seems to keep throwing Mattie under the bus just for the hell of it.
Larry Nassar “stuff” ??? That seems to be trivializing it.
Pamela English l love the way Morgan McCaul blasted Joel Ferguson for attempting to do just that. How was this trivial or paltry? It was a huge disgrace by the very people who were supposed to be preventing that kind of thing from happening to their own clients. As she put it in the interview with the press, I don't know how he slept that night either.
lmao she kept quiet because she knew her father was an enabler to this culture and Nassar's touchy feely procedures. Now she's trying to save face and her career and apologize.
Her father was part of the problem
Why even is nastia here. She wasn’t even a choice for abuse since her father works for the team. We don’t need her opinion.
The world needs less concentrated power.
My word how many times does she say 'like'🙄🙄🙄
Mary Mohagheghi um I say like whenever I breathe what’s so wrong about it? Although I’m from California so
very inspiring! God's love and blessings!!!
Shawn's gymnastics was more powerful than hers but it helps when your dad is dialed into the system. Very political.
I think they were both very talented and had very different styles of gymnastics. Also, Shawn and Nastia lost to other athletes at the Olympics.
Why did they positioned a guy doctor where there ate only female gimnists..??
a female doctor could have just as easily abused this girls sexually. men are not the only predators ya know.
@@sunshinelu6558 yeah but it's mostly men... like more than half of time.
Really great interview! Wow! One of my favorites and I’ve seen many! Thank you for this! Love Nastia!
Cody Sage she was quite nasty to Mattie re: her father. And when I saw her on the Megyn Kelly show, she was so full of shit.
I love that they’re best friends ❤️❤️❤️
The interviewer looks like a tall version of Shawn Johnson. :)
Love it
This interview confirmed something which I have suspected from the beginning. Nastia chose her words very wisely, but you can almost here the undertone in her voice that implies that Mattie Larson is F&%KING crazy!
I'm not trying to bash her, Mattie that is. I think that what she endured is horrifying and I hope that she is able to overcome the trauma that all of this has left on her psyche. However, after she made her court appearance, almost every other time you saw her (I remember 4 times: 1)NBC morning show, 2)ABC 20/20, 3)Lifetime aired a special after the Simone Biles movie premiered, 4)HBO [I think it was the show VICE]) she spent the majority of her time just dragging Bela & Martha Karolyi and talking about how horribly they treated her while at the Ranch. Yes, I'm sure it happened, but how did her testimony against Larry Nassar suddenly branch off into a witch hunt against the Karolyi's, Valeri Liukin and others? In a way, Mattie is still suffering from Larry's grooming techniques by taking her justified anger against him and redirecting it at an undeserving, but plausible, scapegoat.
Because it happened at the Ranch .. How could you trust and seek help from adults who treat you so badly and are verbally abusive towards you? Also if they think you are weak or trouble it would just reduce your chances of making the national / Olympic team.. Martha would just kick her out and cover it up! There are so many things to consider in her position. Clearly it affected her a lot!
As for Valeri.. come on.. You can't understand that she singled him out? It's because he was one of the adults who were part of the system that abused the athletes and treated them as useless unless they win medals. HE was given the job as coordinator of the national team, which means even if the Karolyis aren't there anymore, the culture will still continue. Valeri himself admitted that that was the system he grew up in and used in his own coaching.
Stop victim blaming! Nastia will never admit her dad has ever done anything wrong.. it's her father and perhaps she SHARES HIS VIEWS? Who knows? Look up on what other gymnasts Valeri has coached say about him..
She annoys the hell out of me. I went to NYU and ran into her multiple times, she's so full of herself. I really dislike how she kinda throws Mattie under the bus. This is one of the times where she should just stop talking
Agreed. Very annoying speaking pattern also she said so many "LIKES" and a lot of "you knows" Ughh.
BLHH yes! She looked great around 2012, healthy. She’s extremely anorexic looking now
Well sounds like you were hurt since she didn’t want to be friends with you?
mrparts lol uh no that’s not what I said at all
Matthew T. Adrik yeah that’s exactly how it seemed. Arrogance. It wasn’t outright bitchiness when I met her but definitely a sense of entitlement and arrogance, and more of a snobby vibe I got. Hard to explain.
I think everyone knew what was going on
Hugh Jass yes they all knew and cover it for 25+ years
oh everyone knew. including this bitch and her commie dad
So nassar never abused her. He was professional with her..so does mean her dad knew what was going on and like threatened nassar keep his hands of his kid. Its confusing. Though Nadia looks like an angel. The same with Miller he never abused her and the same with Moceanu it seems, the same with Strug though he is in the screen shot of helping her off the poduim. I guess molesters pry on victims whose parents are too involved or clueless?????
Not to involved. So yeh its a mess indeed he picked and chose his victims.
she's gross! defending her father against all the victims!
She is a role model 👏👏👏
The valley girl to valley girl like talk is a bit ear ringing.
Ikr, they sound identical
Give her a break. Of course she is going to defend her father as anybody would. And as far as I know, there are no other abuse complaints in regards to Valarie Liukin
Reading the comments why is everyone getting mad at her Nassar knew touching the girls on the 2008 team was likely to expose him especially given how much Valeri was apart of the inner circle Nassar was smart enough to know he would have been done in by touching any of those girls so I don’t think it’s fair or right to blame her for saying he was professional with her and the other girls when he was nor is right for people to get mad at her for defending her father who by the way didn’t do anything wrong you can’t blame him for any of this when it’s more than likely he had no clue about any of it
She wasn't blaming Valeri for Nassar, but for shunning her along with the other coaches after she didn't perform well at the Olympics. Her point was that Valeri was part of the abuse culture, and that she was concerned because he had been raised to a prominent position in USAG, an organization that desperately needed change, not more of the same
Kym Jacobs no I get that but the commenters are shunning her for stating the fact that he was professional with her and he was to all or most of this girls in that team because it was to great of a risk for him to do something like that but him being apart of the abuse culture itself there is no denying he definitely played a part there
@@surgeon1016 I agree with you that it's not right for anyone to blame Nastia for what happened, or for defending her father. She could have and should have been a little more sensitive about it, and she also missed the point. It wasn't about the fact that Valeri wasn't Matties personal coach
Nastia said ‘like’ 75 times in this interview.
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Sadly, that is the first sign of a millenial. The second sign, in regards to speech, is using the word "anyways". That "s" does not exist. The final word is "irregardless". Sadly, this shows the degradation of education from speech and critical thinking, to humility and selflessness. I say this as a millenial whose mother worked tirelessly to ensure that I did not make those mistakes. I, too, make some of them, but am ashamed when I do and try to make corrections- unlike most millenials and the suceeding generations. They have no shame or guilt. They feel that they should be loved, flaws and all. That how they behave at home is acceptable in mixed company and locales. It drives me crazy, as it does you when you hear "like" repeatedly!
Is it bad I still feel like she might be in denial? I kind of feel like she was assaulted but just won’t accept it. Maybe she was one of the lucky ones who wasn’t but if he was near her that much I feel it was likely she was assaulted.
K Williams Is it worrying at all to you that she is the only important person in planet who doesn’t just give in to ALL the claims in the Nassar case and because of that she is constantly attacked on every video on YT and most Instagrams in the comment sections. A rational person would have to say that it looks like a angry mob against her and her father going on four years later
Any lady that is abuse from a doctor and the other one is not how should she react to all her athletic sisters that they were there .🤔
She's not like the sharpest like knife in the like drawer.
mano fiske And the meaning of that is...?
Sandra Fraser he's saying she's not smart
EUROPEAN BURMESE I was referring to how many times mano fiske used the word 'like' in such a short sentence.
@@sandrafraser7015 it was an imitation of Nastia.
That’s very typical speech pattern nowadays.
Love yall
A beautiful gymnast!
Now he’s being investigated by safe sport 💀
Such a class act,
Incredible ladies to perform this awesome with dirty Larry in the back ground I applued you ladies for being so strong
This show blows.
This was a mess, the likes she use are so many
The interviewer was immature she wasn’t professional at all
STUFF. I can’t believe This word smh
she's an idiot, really
Please someone ban the word LIKE.
I'm not defending anyone. I just hope that Mattie did elaborate what really happened and how these people abused her. She just dropped some of tha names without proper explanation.
Nah, just nah.
GymNASTIAcs!
You’re a genius
Why is she wearing too much make up
Maybe she likes it. I think she looks nice
I think she still doesn't quite get or understand how it happened... I kinda thibk she doesn't believe it... And i actually can see how its hard 4 her bcuz her father was named also... So she thinks if they lying on her pops then... U know...
Yeah , I'm just listening to Nastia , she seems a bit out of touch . And yes , she wasn't abused bc of her father . Also , during the victim impact statements , her father wasn't spoken of all that well idk .
Настя молодец!
Mmmm, so hard to believe that Nastia’s dad didnt know a thing.
She appears to dress more modest when interviewing women. 🤔
Funny I noticed same thing, her tits are hanging out in every interview with a male athlete & dresses like a church lady interviewing women..strange vibes.
Russian men will fight for a woman. I highly doubt Valeri knew anything.
oh please, he's a communist.
@@sunshinelu6558 can you explain what does it mean?
People need to understand that Mattie said that there is abuse happening at MY gym (which isn’t true at all). She didn’t go to my gym, so she didn’t know what she was talking about. It’s the same thing with the things she said about Valeri. I’m with Nastia here. I understand that Mattie went through this abuse and it was so heartbreaking and she didn’t deserve it at all, but she’s just a little ignorant and she’s putting too much blame on the wrong people. Mattie was probably trying to figure out the heart of the issue, but flat out trying to destroy people’s careers instead of giving people a chance now that this horrifying news is out doesn’t help anyone.
Mattie didn't say Valeri abused her or anyone else. She said he and the other coaches shunned her after she didn't do well at the Olympics
Your dad is part of the problem
Umm, like, just like.
It seems like Nastia like has like a limited like vocabulary.
Missi Reason which is strange considering she went to NYU, great school
@@michaelhart7282
I am not saying this is the case with Nastia, but the recent arrests of celebrities, by the FBI, seals the deal on kids of wealthy parents attending certain really good universities, like NYU, after major 'donations' to the school. Nothing of it was on their merit, just the other M word, money.
The charges being brought by the US attorney's office shows how wide-spread the problem is with it involving several actors' kids, several schools, and several Benjamins, with all of it to secure their acceptance to said schools.
The NCAA may get involved, because some of the kids were given athletic scholarships, after the 'donations' to nust secure acceptance to the school, and not because the kid was a true athlete.
@@michaelhart7282 she bought her way into NYU like other public figures.
I think its nerves
She said "victims" instead of "survivors". (Just pointing out)
MZ83 it’s not that deep. I feel like in that moment she was probably just nervous about talking about it and that’s what came out.
I hate describing them as "survivors." Was it expected they'd not survive due to being touched in the vaginal area?
@@lvega5606 You do know that you can survive something *emotionally* , right?
L Vega what a horribly insensitive comment. I am glad that you have never had to experience sexual assault first hand. Many survivors of sexual abuse (or any abuse) suffer from a lot of psychological harm which, unfortunately, can lead to death by suicide in some cases, or the inability to lead a “normal” life following the abuse. So yes, they are all survivors.
Because that's what they are. He wasn't trying to kill anybody.
She laughed about it once.
Not buying it. I’m just NOT. Time will indeed tell.
Like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like,, like a valley girl!
Unknown User she went to NYU and that’s the best she can communicate? Lol come on Nast!!!
🤣🤦♀️
Nice
She has a HOT name....NASTIA
Disappointed with Ms. Leahy and FS1-this is just a gossip show with some really stupid, inane and fluffy questions. It won’t last long.
Jack Mathys not gossip if it comes from the horses mouth!
I understand your concerns but it’s certainly not gossip if the questions are asked directly to the source !
She purty!
Eewww, why are both of you speaking like you are valley girls? I mean honestly, you sounded more real 10 years ago. It minimizes your message.
What about an interview with Nassars family?
How many times does she say ‘like’ & roll her eyes when trying to appear sincere?
It's just how she speaks. Believe it or not different people have different mannerisms.
Hi I have a cousin that really likes you
🤔😒
Who abused nastia?