Power (2014) and its spinoffs. Storyline going on for so long that the writers run out of ideas and make characters act foolish purely so they can extend the series
My family quit watching the show a while ago as they got sick of the spinoffs themselves. The show is just unwatchable now. I can't believe this garbage outlasted Empire and it was killed off because of what Jussie did plus the declining ratings didn't help matters on top of that.
@@Ziko577 I agree. Thankfully the spinoffs are all ending soon, getting their final seasons. I also liked Empire, even if a lot of it was music focused
Honestly, when I rewatch Supernatural I just watch the first five seasons. I didn’t mind them bringing in Angels and Heaven cause I mean they did have Demons and Hell, only made sense for them to bring in Angels. However, my problem was the later seasons kept introducing/ retconing lore they had already established. And the many, many, many character deaths only to bring them back an episode or two later got on my nerves so bad. And killing off the brothers it seemed every season. Not only that, there were plenty of interesting storylines they had but either they didn’t know how to develop it or got bored with it and just wasted it and tried to move on to a new thing they just pulled out of their asses. And then they added that God had a sister and then they gave into the fan theory that Chuck was God all along. Then they brought in Lucifer’s kid and then multiverses. It just got so crazy it wasn’t funny anymore. Yes, there are some decent episodes in the later season and I do love the dynamic between Sam and Dean, I just feel like it wasn’t worth it. And that God awful ending! The first five seasons are it for me in the show. The story was more concise, interesting, engaging and entertaining. Plus, those seasons were pretty creepy and scary. After Season 5, it seemed like Supernatural lost its edge as time went on.
Dexter did have emotions, they were suppressed as a coping mechanism after watching his mother die. He lacks empathy but still has emotions just not like a normal person. I believe Dexter could've had 8 seasons and survived if the same writers stayed on the show and they kept the same vision.
I remember reading somewhere that Supernatural was only supposed to last for 5 seasons. Some of the stuff added later on was cool, kept the tone, and pacing but somewhere along the way the show just lost it's edge. Had the show finished with season 5, I feel everything could've been answered. The stakes were high enough for the series without being ridiculous.
You hit the nail on the head especially with The Office take, that's why I like Parks & Recreation better because it ended at the perfect time. Running a show for too long makes some of its characters more and more hated. You hate every character except Jim and Dwight by the time The Office ends, but you don't hate anyone by the time Parks & Recreation ends.
"You hit the nail on the head especially with The Office take, that's why I like Parks & Recreation better because it ended at the perfect time." So did Barney Miller on ABC, and The Bob Newhart Show on CBS, both in the 70s-- the first ended after 8 seasons in 1982, the second after 6 in 1978, and both were ended (not cancelled) by their showrunners and networks because they were running out of storylines; this move kept the freshness from going up in smoke, and is why I esteem Barney Miller and Bob Newhart to be two of the best comedies (shows, even) I ever did see (I saw both in full on DVD, and they were well worth the money).
Once Upon a Time is a pretty good example of this. Thankfully they realized what a mistake they were making with s7 and decided to ACTUALLY end it there (even tho it would've been perfect if they had just ended it at season 6)
Reboot's coming out soon but the English dub might not arrive until next year. Apparently, they're just updating the characters designs plus going back to the early seasons when the show was good. This also will be coupled with a new toyline.
I believe the Walking Dead is a huge culprit of running too long. Heck one of the reasons why I don’t plan to watch the show is because of how much I would have to watch especially compared to the comics which ended literally 2 WHOLE YEARS before the show did and now we have a whole bunch of spinoffs
Supernatural never really declined, I prefer a lot of the later seasons rather than the first 5, on rewatch with my sister I realized how plain the first seasons were
Thank God I'm not the only one. Some of the best episodes were past the introduction of the angels. Hell, arguably the best villain was Metatron, who was introduced way later on. I can't speak for the ending (I haven't seen the last few seasons), but I liked the rising stakes the show had. Besides, we never would've gotten Scoobynatural without the show's continuation.
@@jessetheanimenerd3304I’d argue there was a drop around s12. That’s not to say the show became bad at that point it just became too inconsistent with quality varying wildly week to week.
I like the earlier seasons it was pretty fun and mysterious and funny. But of course I didn’t like every episode but it started to lose its sparkle around season nine or 10 I don’t know.
Well Wrns most shows nowadays a days get cancelled as most as between 1 to 3 seasons imo as it's only recently that shows are getting cut before they can even get off the ground it's sad
The CW Flash is by far the one series that should of ended at s3 or s4 cus you could tell they did not know how to raise the stakes after Savitar but I mean Devoe was alright it wasn't my favourite season but the rest I'm sorry to say was trash 💀😭
As someone who watched all of Criminal Minds, Archer, and up to Season 14 of It's Always Sunny, I can easily say: 1. Criminal Minds became a corny Grey's Anatomy type show for the most part around season 7, and the final nail in the coffin was Derek leaving in Season 11. 2. Archer was amazing, but those coma dream world spin-offs were so boring, and Jessica Walters passing away (RIP) really tanked it cuz she and Archer were the best parts of the show. The last 2 seasons without her were just ok. 3. It's Always Sunny got weird atound season 10. It was just...off. Them remaking episodes- especially the female version of the Boggs- episode truly sucked. They're kinda beating a dead horse, and Rob McElhenney looks like he wants to move on do bad🤦🏾♀️
I never actually watched Dr Who, and i think that actually defends my point, because at this point, i don't think i would even want to. That series has been going on nonstop since my grandma was a child, and especially since I'm from Cuba, ain't no way i had information or a fanbase available that could catch me up to speed with the 40 years of content before i was even born, and because the series has so many callbacks to the original seasons it's hard to even want to start on the more modern ones since it feels i would lack a lot of necessary context. The longest show by far i ever actually started watching knowing it was long was One Piece, but even then, that was only in the 700s when i started it (in contrast, Dr Who is already in the 1000), was way more caught up to speed thanks to the worldwide fanbase and hype, and more importantly, a show that started in 1997 feels a lot less outdated, slowpaced, low quality and boring than one that started in 1963, more than 30 years prior.
I wouldn’t even recommend Doctor Who to casual views, the Fans are in their own echo chambers split between factions and to a casual view the show writing became weak and uninteresting by series 11 and long term fans and casual viewers give up after the whole Timeless child stuff in series 12.
5:27 Yeah I don't think I agree. I know you were setting up for a joke, but there are plenty of sitcoms that have good writing, and they were once (or kind of still are) the main thing people watched on tv. Not something ment to just play as background noise 🤨. In addition, the shows you compared it to are television dramas which are known for telling more serialized stories rather than episodic adventures. Both things are fine on their own and can count as good tv and comparing them is sometimes an apple and oranges comparison lol 🤔.
The whole fandom agrees with this one: Miraculous Ladybug it's bad writing, its repetitive and it rewrites so much previous plots, not to mention having a childish director
The ending of the office was great, and though the show went on too long it gave both kinds of fans what they wanted. Those who loved michael scott a good ending anyways after sitting through the last few seasons without him, and those that absolutely hated his character a chance to see the show and other character growth without his interference along with a good ending. It satisifed both parties with the seasons. Parks and Rec has a terrible last season, the ending is good but the stupid tech scheme and complete 180 of the little town throws me off everytime and any time i rewatch the show i literally just skip it i disliked it so much.
I mean they kind of did. The Comics came out for 16 Years from 2003 to 2019. The Story beats are the same. The Comics last Storyline is the Commenwealth and then we get a big Timejump. The Show just added and changed many things. I like the Comic ending way more
Really?! You're tripping, some of those were the best. 30-40 episodes is a decent length, I just hated how most of the Zordon Era used most of the same cast between seasons and had an ongoing storyline. Everything in Post Zordon-Disney Era used all of it's episodes masterfully, ESPECIALLY Lost Galaxy imo. Neo-Saban is where shit hit the fan to me, because they started splitting shows into TWO SEASONS and BOTH of those seasons had like, 20 episodes max. Hell, some of the shit is ultra unnecessary when they could've just used new teams. I get that it's because of Disney losing the rights to PR, and as a result Sentai caught up, but still.
@@chrisrockett5897 Sentai has the show run year round with around 48 or so episodes give or take though some series had 50+ such as Kakuranger & Changeman. The problem now is that they overstay their welcome in other ways such as reunion movies with aging actors and actresses, TTFC specials (often made after the show ended), and reselling better quality toys from older series through Premium Bandai.
CW’s The Flash went on for 9 seasons and it should have been 3 or 4
Yessssss holy shit the decline of the flash was the worst thing I've seen besides walking dead
I’d say 7 would be a good number since it was the replacement for Arrow
Power (2014) and its spinoffs. Storyline going on for so long that the writers run out of ideas and make characters act foolish purely so they can extend the series
My family quit watching the show a while ago as they got sick of the spinoffs themselves. The show is just unwatchable now. I can't believe this garbage outlasted Empire and it was killed off because of what Jussie did plus the declining ratings didn't help matters on top of that.
@@Ziko577 I agree. Thankfully the spinoffs are all ending soon, getting their final seasons. I also liked Empire, even if a lot of it was music focused
@@blackseraph99 I guess Starz got tired of funding this garbage?
Soon as they gave Ghost son any importance the show went to shit
The flash (became actually unwatchable) and Suits (became aimless after the main plot point ended and they continued for 2 more seasons)
Honestly, when I rewatch Supernatural I just watch the first five seasons. I didn’t mind them bringing in Angels and Heaven cause I mean they did have Demons and Hell, only made sense for them to bring in Angels.
However, my problem was the later seasons kept introducing/ retconing lore they had already established. And the many, many, many character deaths only to bring them back an episode or two later got on my nerves so bad. And killing off the brothers it seemed every season.
Not only that, there were plenty of interesting storylines they had but either they didn’t know how to develop it or got bored with it and just wasted it and tried to move on to a new thing they just pulled out of their asses.
And then they added that God had a sister and then they gave into the fan theory that Chuck was God all along. Then they brought in Lucifer’s kid and then multiverses. It just got so crazy it wasn’t funny anymore.
Yes, there are some decent episodes in the later season and I do love the dynamic between Sam and Dean, I just feel like it wasn’t worth it. And that God awful ending!
The first five seasons are it for me in the show. The story was more concise, interesting, engaging and entertaining. Plus, those seasons were pretty creepy and scary. After Season 5, it seemed like Supernatural lost its edge as time went on.
The walking dead went way too long. They should’ve ended it after Rick left.
Dexter did have emotions, they were suppressed as a coping mechanism after watching his mother die. He lacks empathy but still has emotions just not like a normal person.
I believe Dexter could've had 8 seasons and survived if the same writers stayed on the show and they kept the same vision.
Very accurate assessment
Facts
I remember reading somewhere that Supernatural was only supposed to last for 5 seasons. Some of the stuff added later on was cool, kept the tone, and pacing but somewhere along the way the show just lost it's edge.
Had the show finished with season 5, I feel everything could've been answered. The stakes were high enough for the series without being ridiculous.
I love some of the later seasons but they could've easily been comics or novels
This is a childhood one: Ninjago. It has like 17 seasons now???
The flash for sure
It jumped off a cliff and fell straight into hell with how bad it declined.
You hit the nail on the head especially with The Office take, that's why I like Parks & Recreation better because it ended at the perfect time. Running a show for too long makes some of its characters more and more hated. You hate every character except Jim and Dwight by the time The Office ends, but you don't hate anyone by the time Parks & Recreation ends.
"You hit the nail on the head especially with The Office take, that's why I like Parks & Recreation better because it ended at the perfect time."
So did Barney Miller on ABC, and The Bob Newhart Show on CBS, both in the 70s-- the first ended after 8 seasons in 1982, the second after 6 in 1978, and both were ended (not cancelled) by their showrunners and networks because they were running out of storylines; this move kept the freshness from going up in smoke, and is why I esteem Barney Miller and Bob Newhart to be two of the best comedies (shows, even) I ever did see (I saw both in full on DVD, and they were well worth the money).
Not even a MENTION of the simpson is straight crazy
Once Upon a Time is a pretty good example of this. Thankfully they realized what a mistake they were making with s7 and decided to ACTUALLY end it there (even tho it would've been perfect if they had just ended it at season 6)
Why couldn’t the show just end with the fair tale characters being back in their homeland?
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Ukr
Anything after season 3 or 4 is garbage!
Reboot's coming out soon but the English dub might not arrive until next year. Apparently, they're just updating the characters designs plus going back to the early seasons when the show was good. This also will be coupled with a new toyline.
I believe the Walking Dead is a huge culprit of running too long. Heck one of the reasons why I don’t plan to watch the show is because of how much I would have to watch especially compared to the comics which ended literally 2 WHOLE YEARS before the show did and now we have a whole bunch of spinoffs
Supernatural never really declined, I prefer a lot of the later seasons rather than the first 5, on rewatch with my sister I realized how plain the first seasons were
Thank God I'm not the only one. Some of the best episodes were past the introduction of the angels. Hell, arguably the best villain was Metatron, who was introduced way later on. I can't speak for the ending (I haven't seen the last few seasons), but I liked the rising stakes the show had. Besides, we never would've gotten Scoobynatural without the show's continuation.
@@jessetheanimenerd3304I’d argue there was a drop around s12. That’s not to say the show became bad at that point it just became too inconsistent with quality varying wildly week to week.
I like the earlier seasons it was pretty fun and mysterious and funny. But of course I didn’t like every episode but it started to lose its sparkle around season nine or 10 I don’t know.
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Low hanging fruit and all kinds of obvious but The Simpsons definitely suffers from this.
The Simpsons is so old it’s on life support. It’s time to pull the plug
I stopped watching the Simpsons since season 24 or 25. I felt that it should have ended with the 2007 Movie.
Well Wrns most shows nowadays a days get cancelled as most as between 1 to 3 seasons imo as it's only recently that shows are getting cut before they can even get off the ground it's sad
The CW Flash is by far the one series that should of ended at s3 or s4 cus you could tell they did not know how to raise the stakes after Savitar but I mean Devoe was alright it wasn't my favourite season but the rest I'm sorry to say was trash 💀😭
I found your channel not even a week ago. I love your videos, and they genuinely make me bust out laughing. Keep it up.
The Office is not even close of Its always sunny In Philadelphia and that show can last 40 seasons for what anyone care
As someone who watched all of Criminal Minds, Archer, and up to Season 14 of It's Always Sunny, I can easily say:
1. Criminal Minds became a corny Grey's Anatomy type show for the most part around season 7, and the final nail in the coffin was Derek leaving in Season 11.
2. Archer was amazing, but those coma dream world spin-offs were so boring, and Jessica Walters passing away (RIP) really tanked it cuz she and Archer were the best parts of the show. The last 2 seasons without her were just ok.
3. It's Always Sunny got weird atound season 10. It was just...off. Them remaking episodes- especially the female version of the Boggs- episode truly sucked. They're kinda beating a dead horse, and Rob McElhenney looks like he wants to move on do bad🤦🏾♀️
But Archer did have a good series finale.
You know what the GOATS (The Sopranos, Breaking Bad, The Wire) did? THEY DIDN’T GO LONGER THAN THEY SHOULD HAVE!
Simpsons and SpongeBob after dropping their 35th season
TTTE has run for 24 seasons and 14 films,should’ve ended at season 5
I never actually watched Dr Who, and i think that actually defends my point, because at this point, i don't think i would even want to. That series has been going on nonstop since my grandma was a child, and especially since I'm from Cuba, ain't no way i had information or a fanbase available that could catch me up to speed with the 40 years of content before i was even born, and because the series has so many callbacks to the original seasons it's hard to even want to start on the more modern ones since it feels i would lack a lot of necessary context. The longest show by far i ever actually started watching knowing it was long was One Piece, but even then, that was only in the 700s when i started it (in contrast, Dr Who is already in the 1000), was way more caught up to speed thanks to the worldwide fanbase and hype, and more importantly, a show that started in 1997 feels a lot less outdated, slowpaced, low quality and boring than one that started in 1963, more than 30 years prior.
I wouldn’t even recommend Doctor Who to casual views, the Fans are in their own echo chambers split between factions and to a casual view the show writing became weak and uninteresting by series 11 and long term fans and casual viewers give up after the whole Timeless child stuff in series 12.
5:36
Me right here, I’m who you’re talking about.
Love your videos man
5:43 well you’re right about that.
you didn't mention Gunsmoke (1955-1975)
20 years is crazy work
@@L2Rxge I'm 4 seasons in so far
Game of Thrones is an example of a show that should have ran for way longer.
5:27 Yeah I don't think I agree. I know you were setting up for a joke, but there are plenty of sitcoms that have good writing, and they were once (or kind of still are) the main thing people watched on tv. Not something ment to just play as background noise 🤨.
In addition, the shows you compared it to are television dramas which are known for telling more serialized stories rather than episodic adventures. Both things are fine on their own and can count as good tv and comparing them is sometimes an apple and oranges comparison lol 🤔.
Fr, people just wanna hear themselves yap.
0:07 Why is Dexter called Dexter's Laboratory?? 😂
The whole fandom agrees with this one:
Miraculous Ladybug
it's bad writing, its repetitive and it rewrites so much previous plots, not to mention having a childish director
BBBT MLP G4 The Simpsons Grey's Anatomy
Greys Anatomy should have ended like 15 Years ago
Thought it was called jumping the shark
The ending of the office was great, and though the show went on too long it gave both kinds of fans what they wanted. Those who loved michael scott a good ending anyways after sitting through the last few seasons without him, and those that absolutely hated his character a chance to see the show and other character growth without his interference along with a good ending. It satisifed both parties with the seasons. Parks and Rec has a terrible last season, the ending is good but the stupid tech scheme and complete 180 of the little town throws me off everytime and any time i rewatch the show i literally just skip it i disliked it so much.
All I hear are facts 😩
The Walking Dead comics didn’t go nearly as long as the show
I mean they kind of did. The Comics came out for 16 Years from 2003 to 2019. The Story beats are the same. The Comics last Storyline is the Commenwealth and then we get a big Timejump. The Show just added and changed many things. I like the Comic ending way more
Élite ran for too long.
I would say the power rangers shows from the 90s to 2009 were too long cuz they almost had 30 to 40 episodes each
Really?! You're tripping, some of those were the best. 30-40 episodes is a decent length, I just hated how most of the Zordon Era used most of the same cast between seasons and had an ongoing storyline. Everything in Post Zordon-Disney Era used all of it's episodes masterfully, ESPECIALLY Lost Galaxy imo. Neo-Saban is where shit hit the fan to me, because they started splitting shows into TWO SEASONS and BOTH of those seasons had like, 20 episodes max. Hell, some of the shit is ultra unnecessary when they could've just used new teams. I get that it's because of Disney losing the rights to PR, and as a result Sentai caught up, but still.
@@chrisrockett5897 Sentai has the show run year round with around 48 or so episodes give or take though some series had 50+ such as Kakuranger & Changeman. The problem now is that they overstay their welcome in other ways such as reunion movies with aging actors and actresses, TTFC specials (often made after the show ended), and reselling better quality toys from older series through Premium Bandai.
Maybe Power Rangers from 2011 to 2023 could have been better if it was on either the CW or some other channel that isn’t Nickelodeon.
Ey wait, i thought you were gonna talk about GoT
great video
Community is a pretty great sitcom but it did kinda fall off after mid season 5 imo
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shamless went on too long bro
I agree with supernatural but no way u talking shit about season 5, the best supernatural season by far
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