I was gonna buy a used p-07 but now ill wait and get the new one. Thank you CZ for keeping the hammer fired options for us guys. Fnh and others have failed us in that by going to striker fired only and discontinuing very nice pistols.
Everyone complaining that it's not cut for the RMR but after checking RMSc compatible optics, there's still tons of good options there: Sig, Meprolight, Vortex, and Holosun are all pretty good brands that, at least semi-recently, have pretty good reputations for making decent little optics/
More likely just issue the parts in their store individually like they do now. My worry is that will the parts actually be available or will it be in waves and come and go spotty like. They just redid their webstore not to long ago and the whole system was down. It was anarchy like a the summer of love. The website said it was down but then told people to call the phone line customer service but when one did that the customer service would say they couldn’t order anything or do anything because essentially they use the same system as the online order system which is just bad planning and horrible customer service.
I love my p-07 and my p-09. I wish though that CZs customer service was a lot better as well as parts availability. I love how this current model is being offered with compatibility in mind so I wanted the newer controls I could buy them and put them on my guns I already have. I wish they did the same for the 805 and Bren 2 rifles as well as keeping in stock older 805 parts which now are just almost unobtainable to get including backup parts for these weapon systems. I get that the 805 rifle is no longer in production and the Bren 2 has replaced it. But the release of the 805 and Bren 2 were 2014 for the 805 and 2016 for the Bren 2. Leaving those of us with 805s in the lurch and having to decide if keeping the firearm is worth despite little to no aftermarket support.
I don’t know your experience with CZ Customer service but I bought my wife a P10s and immediately broke it (was my fault) reached out to CZ and they fixed the gun very quickly and had it back in a couple weeks
@@austinnormann ohh yeah there’s times where the customer service is spot on and other times however it isn’t. Regarding fixing issues like you mentioned I’ve never had issues. A long time ago I never had issues with getting parts for my p-09. However lately the customer service has been a bit spotty. They changed over to a new system apparently and getting anything done or orders already logged into the system were just floating around and not being fulfilled. Parts were listed on the store as available but in reality not so. Many of the parts or kits are dependent on Czech CZ shipping them to the US so wait time is a bit of a stretch. For instance the .22 conversion kits for the p-09 and p-07 pistols. They have been on back order forever with CZ USA just pointing to Czech CZ. Czech CZ just shrugs their shoulders which is a bit frustrating.
The one I had the reset was actually pretty damn short, I know that every omega trigger I’ve felt everyone felt different though the consistency just isn’t there
@@mitchellspringer7025Agree completely. My P 07 has a great factory trigger. Owned a P 09 that had a terrible long trigger pull and reset. Hated it and sold it. Love my P 07.
@@mitchellspringer7025 I had a P-01 Omega and dumped some good money into CGW parts - nothing shortened the reset. The gun as a whole was fantastic- so I bought a regular P-01
@freedomlineman3105 the thing is that's too small of an optic for me, especially for a full size style slide. I only mount 507comp and SRO optics on those. I only mount rmsc optics on micro 9 style guns
@@Andrew_182 I got mine in it’s prime at 580 ish so I don’t believe these will be below 600 initially. I could be wrong though but I feel like the price will be in 600s
@stern2701 with an optic cut and those slide serrations yea I wouldn't be surprised msrp of 699$ let's hope they actually make extra magazines for this p-07 instead of saying "buy existing for our p-01"
@@stern2701 I’m sure the big box stores like cabellas and such as well as the local gun stores will have them around there. Looking at listings on gun deals, family firearms is listed at $539 plus shipping and kygunco is $519 free shipping.
@@driftitlikeyouownit you can find them for low to kid $500s on gun deals. The current p10/07/09 mags are supposed to work for them too so mag availability shouldn’t be terrible, but then again places have a hard time keeping any cz mags in stock so we’ll see
@@Raduldo no probs. But mean I get why they would do it. It’s how they do it for all their other offerings like the P10 with their F, C and S models (Full Size, Compact and SubCompact). Separating out the models based upon size and caliber is something that others done because it’s what’s always been. Examples of this would be the Glock 17 verses the 19 or the Sig P226 verses the P229. For catalogue purposes this can get a bit redundant. So it makes sense to merge.
Only thing I don't like is the rail changes, otherwise everything else is a plus and I can totally live with the rail changes being hidden under a holster / light.
Maybe not. This direct mounts RMSc footprint optics. You'll still need to get the irons-only ones milled for acro/rmr footprints etc; at least for the moment
I do love CZ's but I have had a warranty part on back order for nearly 4 years now and have lost interest in CZ for this extremely poor customer service.
Yeah but does that lanyard loop absolutely need to be there? Like why? Improve everything but something about that damn lanyard loops, you guys are so dead set on leaving that there. Its weird.
CZ customer service sucks. I needed a magazine screw from CZ-USA for the P10M. They sent me a stripped screw. They said it's discontinued, roger that but send me a screw. No BS, they said no more screws in the factory. Emailed CZ in the EU and they said CZ-USA has screws. When I called CZ-USA they had blocked my phone number. Not Sh*t they blocked it. CZ sucks do not buy, buyer beware!
My point is CZ has made a lot of poor decisions the last few years. Discontinued the 527 and 550. Now look how sought after they are. Replaced with the 557 which is already discontinued because it was worse, just them trying to cheap out.
Wow CZ just doesn't innovate anymore do they. That's it? Lame. 11 year wait for a slightly improved slide, grip tape and an optic cut? Seriously? I hope the new p10c has more to offer than this
Big mistake for CZ to throw away the old firing system and create the "Omega" system. The CZ 75 pistol has lost its identity because they have taken away the best thing it had, its firing mechanism. They have done it to save manufacturing costs, but they have destroyed the best that CZ had in handguns. Why does the SHADOW series continue with the old trigger mechanism? Simply because it is much better than the OMEGA. Gentlemen of CZ, you have destroyed your identity; Nothing they do now or in the future will be able to surpass, or even equal, the old firing mechanism of the CZ 75. Very bad idea!! If it costs more money to manufacture the old shooting system, then WE PAY FOR IT, but don't want to sell us worse quality, much worse quality!! No matter what designs change in the future, nothing will be as good as the old CZ 75 and its old firing mechanism. React and think!! Go back to the old CZ 75 B!!
As a P 07 fan this is a great addition to the line. Especially since I have been wanting a P 09. Perfect changes to the best platform on the market.
I was gonna buy a used p-07 but now ill wait and get the new one. Thank you CZ for keeping the hammer fired options for us guys. Fnh and others have failed us in that by going to striker fired only and discontinuing very nice pistols.
My husband is drooling over the full sized and I'm drooling over the compact. 🥰🥰🥰
Everyone complaining that it's not cut for the RMR but after checking RMSc compatible optics, there's still tons of good options there: Sig, Meprolight, Vortex, and Holosun are all pretty good brands that, at least semi-recently, have pretty good reputations for making decent little optics/
I'll finally buy a CZ!
Shadow 2, sp01, p01??
@@josephmcbrien7646the small chunky one
Yes!!! My two favorite polymer handguns of all time. Well done on the updates CZ.
This looks great, hopefully production model is as well.
Can't wait to get me a P09 F Nocturne! I love CZ handguns. Release date, please 🙏🏼
Looking great I will pick up the compact let's go! Thanks for the CZ content keep it coming.
When is CZ GONA MAKE a Rami update?
We want a micro CZ pistol for conceal carry!
I have a 23 model love it
This might be my new EDC! ❤
I just ordered a P-09C Nocturne from Gunbroker.
GOD DAMMIT!!!! 😂😂😂 I just bought a P-07…
🤣
@@TEXAN_SHADOW outside of the optics cut slide many of the other features like the improved controls are supposed to to be backwards compatible
@@joshuaschroeder5365 hmmm wonder if they will sale a kit
More likely just issue the parts in their store individually like they do now. My worry is that will the parts actually be available or will it be in waves and come and go spotty like. They just redid their webstore not to long ago and the whole system was down. It was anarchy like a the summer of love. The website said it was down but then told people to call the phone line customer service but when one did that the customer service would say they couldn’t order anything or do anything because essentially they use the same system as the online order system which is just bad planning and horrible customer service.
If you don't need red dot cut, it's essentially same gun.
Very exciting.
They make arguably the most ergonomic grip in the game and they didn’t improve the flat side panels???
When are they available?
I want and will buy I am a CZ fanboy lol !
Whats the difference between the p07 and the p09? I already have a p07. Kind of want the p09 but not sure if it's redundant.
I’m very excited for this.
Has the trigger been changed/improved at all? Good stuff
I love my p-07 and my p-09. I wish though that CZs customer service was a lot better as well as parts availability. I love how this current model is being offered with compatibility in mind so I wanted the newer controls I could buy them and put them on my guns I already have. I wish they did the same for the 805 and Bren 2 rifles as well as keeping in stock older 805 parts which now are just almost unobtainable to get including backup parts for these weapon systems. I get that the 805 rifle is no longer in production and the Bren 2 has replaced it. But the release of the 805 and Bren 2 were 2014 for the 805 and 2016 for the Bren 2. Leaving those of us with 805s in the lurch and having to decide if keeping the firearm is worth despite little to no aftermarket support.
I don’t know your experience with CZ Customer service but I bought my wife a P10s and immediately broke it (was my fault) reached out to CZ and they fixed the gun very quickly and had it back in a couple weeks
@@austinnormann ohh yeah there’s times where the customer service is spot on and other times however it isn’t. Regarding fixing issues like you mentioned I’ve never had issues. A long time ago I never had issues with getting parts for my p-09. However lately the customer service has been a bit spotty. They changed over to a new system apparently and getting anything done or orders already logged into the system were just floating around and not being fulfilled. Parts were listed on the store as available but in reality not so. Many of the parts or kits are dependent on Czech CZ shipping them to the US so wait time is a bit of a stretch. For instance the .22 conversion kits for the p-09 and p-07 pistols. They have been on back order forever with CZ USA just pointing to Czech CZ. Czech CZ just shrugs their shoulders which is a bit frustrating.
When is the new p10 coming?
@@tommymorgan9293 the P10 45 OR is out now
Would love to see CZ implement a 5.7 x 28. Like if you agree!
When it hit stores?
CZ’s are ZESTY!
Did CZ shorten the trigger reset on these models?
The one I had the reset was actually pretty damn short, I know that every omega trigger I’ve felt everyone felt different though the consistency just isn’t there
@@mitchellspringer7025Agree completely. My P 07 has a great factory trigger. Owned a P 09 that had a terrible long trigger pull and reset. Hated it and sold it. Love my P 07.
@@mitchellspringer7025 I had a P-01 Omega and dumped some good money into CGW parts - nothing shortened the reset. The gun as a whole was fantastic- so I bought a regular P-01
Holsters the same as old p09?
I hope the aftermarket steps up immediately and makes an RMR adaper plate for this!
I believe it’s supposed to be cut RMSC from the factory?? So we won’t need a plate to mount that style of optic.
@freedomlineman3105 the thing is that's too small of an optic for me, especially for a full size style slide. I only mount 507comp and SRO optics on those. I only mount rmsc optics on micro 9 style guns
Trigger upgrade at all?
Gotcha
I thought the compact was the P07. In other videos
So whats the difference other than the optic cut from the factory???
P09C replaces the P07. P09 same size. Different slide cuts and better factory grip textures.
So we just buy the new slide and controls for our existing p07/9, because the trigger was not updated
Depends on how much the slide and controls cost
From the TFBTV interview it doesn't seem like the slide will be available separately. Dude said the controls will be though.
I’ll take it i guess. Was going to send mine in to get done but if price is right I’ll just get a new one and have 2
Looking like they're going to be mid 500s at least initially.
@@Andrew_182 I got mine in it’s prime at 580 ish so I don’t believe these will be below 600 initially. I could be wrong though but I feel like the price will be in 600s
@stern2701 with an optic cut and those slide serrations yea I wouldn't be surprised msrp of 699$ let's hope they actually make extra magazines for this p-07 instead of saying "buy existing for our p-01"
@@stern2701 I’m sure the big box stores like cabellas and such as well as the local gun stores will have them around there. Looking at listings on gun deals, family firearms is listed at $539 plus shipping and kygunco is $519 free shipping.
@@driftitlikeyouownit you can find them for low to kid $500s on gun deals. The current p10/07/09 mags are supposed to work for them too so mag availability shouldn’t be terrible, but then again places have a hard time keeping any cz mags in stock so we’ll see
What the heck is P09 compact...P07?
PO9 is the Full sized PO7
@@ifly64s I know what P09 is, I am asking what P09 compact is?
@@Raduldo Yes what the P-07 was, is now going to be the P-09 Compact. I think they are just trying to simplify the catalogue.
@@joshuaschroeder5365 Thanx. This is becoming so confusing.
@@Raduldo no probs. But mean I get why they would do it. It’s how they do it for all their other offerings like the P10 with their F, C and S models (Full Size, Compact and SubCompact). Separating out the models based upon size and caliber is something that others done because it’s what’s always been. Examples of this would be the Glock 17 verses the 19 or the Sig P226 verses the P229. For catalogue purposes this can get a bit redundant. So it makes sense to merge.
I’ll stick with my Beretta PX4 compact carry from Landon Tactical
I'll stick to my gen 2 CZ P09 Tactical.
Only thing I don't like is the rail changes, otherwise everything else is a plus and I can totally live with the rail changes being hidden under a holster / light.
Very nice
I just freed up a 407k i might have found it a home
Bad news for those offering optic cutting for CZ handguns.
Maybe not. This direct mounts RMSc footprint optics. You'll still need to get the irons-only ones milled for acro/rmr footprints etc; at least for the moment
👍🏻👍🏻🇺🇸🇺🇸💯💯☕️☕️🔫🔫
I do love CZ's but I have had a warranty part on back order for nearly 4 years now and have lost interest in CZ for this extremely poor customer service.
Taylor Betty Williams Gary Perez Sandra
Robinson Angela Gonzalez Amy Anderson David
Jackson Richard Hernandez Karen Lewis James
Young Susan Davis George Hall Paul
Anderson Scott Moore George Clark Laura
Yeah but does that lanyard loop absolutely need to be there? Like why? Improve everything but something about that damn lanyard loops, you guys are so dead set on leaving that there. Its weird.
I hate cz . I just wanted one more cz and they go and damn do this . Damn y'all cz another two hand guns I guess
Miller Kevin Williams Jeffrey Jackson Ronald
CZ customer service sucks. I needed a magazine screw from CZ-USA for the P10M. They sent me a stripped screw. They said it's discontinued, roger that but send me a screw. No BS, they said no more screws in the factory. Emailed CZ in the EU and they said CZ-USA has screws. When I called CZ-USA they had blocked my phone number. Not Sh*t they blocked it. CZ sucks do not buy, buyer beware!
Not rmr cut. Swing and a miss
It's a freaking huge miss,, baby optics and Omega trigger systems, we are going in reverse 👎,, Colt
It wasn’t possible with it. They went over that decision on the TFB TV channel video.
@@farren7254 could’ve done a plate like others instead of the absolute worst cut possible.
@@farren7254they just didn’t want to redesign the geometry of the slide, they said let’s take the easy way which will sell much less
My point is CZ has made a lot of poor decisions the last few years. Discontinued the 527 and 550. Now look how sought after they are. Replaced with the 557 which is already discontinued because it was worse, just them trying to cheap out.
Wow CZ just doesn't innovate anymore do they. That's it? Lame. 11 year wait for a slightly improved slide, grip tape and an optic cut? Seriously? I hope the new p10c has more to offer than this
Wow. Boring. Thats the best they could do for an update?
Big mistake for CZ to throw away the old firing system and create the "Omega" system. The CZ 75 pistol has lost its identity because they have taken away the best thing it had, its firing mechanism. They have done it to save manufacturing costs, but they have destroyed the best that CZ had in handguns. Why does the SHADOW series continue with the old trigger mechanism? Simply because it is much better than the OMEGA. Gentlemen of CZ, you have destroyed your identity; Nothing they do now or in the future will be able to surpass, or even equal, the old firing mechanism of the CZ 75. Very bad idea!! If it costs more money to manufacture the old shooting system, then WE PAY FOR IT, but don't want to sell us worse quality, much worse quality!! No matter what designs change in the future, nothing will be as good as the old CZ 75 and its old firing mechanism. React and think!! Go back to the old CZ 75 B!!
We get it Kamala we get it 😂😂😂😂
Total suck fest,, really disappointing, we really need an update on these 2 guns with all the cool stuff coming out. Horrible 👎
Do you need a tissue?
@@driftitlikeyouownit after leaving your mom's bedside, of course,, she needs a box of tissues to get that stuff cleaned up 💦
❤❤❤❤❤
About to mothball by last HK...
Gonzalez Dorothy Anderson Scott Garcia Maria