Factorio - Let's Play K2SE II Episode 3

Without doubt the longest game time in a single episode that I've made so far in any series. Things I build here are labour intensive and that takes time. Also, biters are annoying. And meteors. And solar flares. Truth is, the consequences of my previous decisions are coming home to roost.
I am falling deeply in love with the factory though. The proportionality, the architecture, the anticipated performance... I am thoroughly pleased with everything.
In other news, a buddy on discord pointed out some settings that needed tweaking and suddenly it feels like things in the game aren't so blurry anymore. Well, half way through the episode anyway. Has a sweet spot finally been found with the capturing, the editing and the game all working in harmony? It is entirely possible. Mr UpsideDownFox, you are a f*cking hero.

[@janbx]

Baby wake up, new lesson in Engineering just dropped

[@eriafi]

Great mall, even better science area. One question from me: what is the black tiles you used in the rocket cells?
Answering your doubts about science if you want an answer:
- Yellow is the last science you research in nauvis. The packs after, you will need to make them in space and use all of them in space. The packs red, green, militar, blue and yellow are usualy done in nauvis, where you can use productivity (in orbit you can only use it in labs and miners), and shiped to orbit to be used and will be needed all game long. The initial pack of wood is not used anymore from one point.
- The space lab is a big one, 6 squares of side if I'm correct, it is fast and has 6 or 8 module space, normally with 4 labs with full productivity and one beacon with speed you will have enough. More labs will need gargantuan factories to be suplied with packs. For instance to make 1 asto pack one per second you need like 130 teelscopes that use coolant that needs to be cooled by another big number of big machines, etc....
At the end, Nauvis and the other planets are factories so sustain research in orbit
Another detail that I don't know if you are aware is, allmost all the space machines are done in space. Only the small manufacturer, the advance lab (which is not the space lab) and a few more can be made in nauvis. The big manufacturer that you had planed in hellmod must be done in space. Some space things can be done in small space manufacturer, but for instance science must be done in the big one. Once you arrive to nauvis orbit (whish some call norbit) you will have a free big manufacturer and other free buildings, science packs, advanced materials (like enough vulcanite blocks to research beacons), logistic chests and space belts. There is also ice so you don't need to ship water if you have mining drill and electric boiler.
With your second or third rocket, you sould have discover an asteroid belt, you should be curious and take a pick ^^.

[@theotherbigfoot]

The black tiles are black reinforced plates.
A lot of good tips there, I feel like I understand about half of them!!
Just pop into space he says....

[@eriafi]

@@theotherbigfoot You don't need to go to space to take a look, after launching the first rocket you unlocked the satelite view ("N" by default). You can use it to explore nauvis or any other space surface discovered (this from universe explorer view, "U" by default). From sateliite view you can plant ghost entities that bots will put, manipulate combinators etc... You will uncover one extra surface with each launched rocket. Clicl "U" to open the universe explorer, select a discovered surface and click view surface. The first rocket discovers nauvis orbir and the second one asteroid belt 1 I think, the next ones discover moons or planets of that system. Informatron has all the needed information about it.
About the other things I said, almost everything can be found in the informatron for more details. Sumary:
- You will not make any new science packs in nauvis. All packs after yellow need to be made in space. All research with space science packs must be consumed in space.
- Red, green, gray, blue and yellow science cards will be used all game long. The first science card, the one that uses wood, is not used anymore after some point.
- The final lab you will use all those space science pack (after a bit of space research is done) is a big building (8x8 tiles) so it can be feed by a lot of belts (I personaly use a requester chest with a provider chest per science pack nearby though).
- Almost all space buildings need to be made in space.
- Space assembly machine (normal manufacturer for space) can be made in nauvis, Space manufacturer (big) must be made in orbit.
- Take a look at nauvis orbit before planing what to take with you.
- You get enough vulcanite blocks to make enough production science packs to do the basic beacons research before creating your own vulcanite blocks.
- Nauvis will be a material factory for base and intermediate materials as in space productivity can only be used for miners and labs.
An added one: Beacons don't work like vanilla beacons. each building can only be affected by 1 beacon but the basic beacons (vanilla building) have 8 module slots and an area of 6x6

[@eriafi]

@@theotherbigfoot Reviewing this video It seems the answer that I wrote to this was not correctly sent or something T-T. But well, It was saying that almost all of that you have it in the informatron with more details and that with "pop into space" I was refering to satelite view XD

[@iceburg8599]

Great ep! I feel you arrived at the best of the timelapses, the small one at the end was very satisfying!

[@TS-jm7jm]

great stuff man, i admire the skill and methodical persistence you need to keep this up

[@theotherbigfoot]

I've rushed factories and regretted it. I've never regretted taking my time. I don't mind spending hours creating something if I feel like the thing I'm creating is awesome.

[@UnfortunateWatcher]

I think you need to look into what goes into the space sciences and build up that in your ground base. You have put a lot of thought into the Nauvis stuff, but the space part is going to be a big hurdle. But I guess we have another hundred hours until you reach that part.

[@UnfortunateWatcher]

Just watched the end. You are gonna really suffer when you try to build space science on the ground.

[@theotherbigfoot]

You make it sound like I know what I'm doing!!

[@blackhat4968]

I dont think I have seen any RoboPorts, or spots reserved for them. Are you not going to be using logistic bots? Or does K2 or SE have some other method of controlling them?

[@theotherbigfoot]

I'm a little worried about power consumption. I only need them for logistics and for train fuel so it isn't a huge loss at the moment.

[@B44Life]

is he playing on creative or something? how does he have so many belts and such off the starter factory??