Exactly, these guys have absolutely zero taste - I currently ride 2 Cannondales & their entry this year looks like vomit, one of the worst. Lots of people will hate on this episode ...
Probably because the bikes at this level are all 10/10 performance wise... All bikes have full carbon frames that are all super light and super aero, integrated carbon cockpits, carbon rims, tubeless tires, highest tier (so shimano dura ace and sram red) 12 spd electronic shifting, hydraulic disk brakes and fully integrated cables. Pretty much the only thing you CAN rate is color choices and how the bike looks visually overall. That being said, I disagree with most of their takes too
I think they want enve to sponsor them 😂 the bike before that one was to bland and boring “not enough colour” and than they like the worst black bike ever
The smartest one in the room was the mafia lady, she's got taste, the boys favorite bike is all black with a tramp stamp logo on the down tube and wheels?
Wrong title. You ranked paint schemes. Edit: 'chi' in Italian is said 'key'. Mispronouncing one of the oldest and most famous bike brands is just poor form team.
You guys are OFF YOUR NUT if you rate that Enve higher than the Willier. And you rate the Enve a 10 and a virtually identical Look an 8? Absolutely out of your gourds.
I disagree with a lot of this - however - bianchi. What are they playing at? I’ve got 7 bianchis ranging from 2006-2020 including a rim brake Specialissima and a disc brake XR4 which are both stunning to look at. I shan’t be ‘upgrading’ to the latest ones.
Can confirm the Enve Melee is a great bike. Recently picked one up for the reasons described in the video. Understated, classic design, nice and neat. Also like Francis I always looked at Enve and was interested but could never afford it. I'm now living out that dream, and it hasn't let me down yet! Great pick.
Watched because I thought you would be commenting on the quality and actual use and rideability of the bikes, not what you think about the paint and stickers. I was at the pump track last week and asked an eight year old what kind of bike he rode? He said a red one. Was that you?
No mention of Cavendish's custom Wilier? It's different than the rest of Astana team. Not that I LOVE it, but gotta be 10/10 since it's Cav and a one-off. And you should have compared with the team kit, see the "whole picture".
Seemed so inconsistent in the scoring as it’s old school and love plain but likes the bike with so many logos, good summary. They like plain black with loads of logos - don’t take recommendations from these 2
Please tell me how Enve gets a 10/10 when it looks like they printed a sticker out and put it on the head tube? When you compared it to a wilier or colnago, it looks like someone who is first year out of college as a designer…. It’s so cheap looking. Get rid of the square and just put Enve on the front in white. Ahahahah and the location in the down tube is off?? And the super tall head tube… it just looks like you’re climbing up a mountain. It will become more stealthy with next iterations for sure. But classic , Enve bias here.
You guys made an absolute hash of that 😂😂 but it was very entertaining. Thank god for Mafia Emily. The Wilier is a work of art, my fave since last year, 10/10. Sir Cav's unique TdF wilier is nice too. Jimmy, get yourself on a Trek. Between us my dad and I have owned Ribble, Specialized, Focus and Cannondale but we both favour our Trek Emondas. (2019 and 2022)
Entertainingly hilarious! Made me laugh for sure! 😅😂😂 That said, I agree with some of the other comments - please don’t take offense - you guys have absolutely no design or aesthetic sensibilities. Not trying to be mean or even funny but your design vocabulary is a 0/10. Very funny episode though! 😂
I think this ranking is weird how is one bike that all black a 2 because it’s not original, but the enve bike fits that exact description yet gets a 10? Huh? lol sheep mentality liking something just cause of its brand name? What a load of bs
Your three worse bikes would be my three best ( or at least fighting with the Orbea, the Reacto, and the Foil)... Your best bike is my worst bike😂. Things about tastes...
I watched the whole thing just to see how ignorant about bikes someone who hosts a bike show can get....i am still in disbelief about what i heard and saw....
What a horrible ranking system. You guys are so subjective and biased. I personally thought the Bianchi that won the first TDF stage looks great. The Kazakstanan bike has the best paint job. It should be top3 Your taste for Enve and EF bikes is so biased. They're not even top5 to me.
@@musclelessfitness2045 I meant to say taste not faste though😂 What I don’t understand though, how can you rank some bikes lower because their paint job looks boring from a distance but a black bike is considered 10/10. They should have at least tried to use the same criteria for each bike. Like this the video looks very unprofessional.
Madone's design is like that, I don't understand why you guys have to cover up that hole... It's like having a definition of Ferrari's design with a VW standard, really stupid.
I tuned in hoping to hear about superior functional design, superior setup (tire, wheel, drivetrain), superior comfort and handling. All I got was inconsequential chatter about paint jobs. Boring and irrelevant stuff.
Can I have the 17 minutes and 9 seconds of my life back? What a waste of tiime - you didn't judge the bikes, you judged paint jobs. I thought you were going to actually give us ride quality or component info. Nope, just visual critiques...and you contridicted yourselves with liking plain, boring black and not liking some of the other "plain, boring" ones, then gave graphically busy bikes like Cannondale's a high score! Again, a waste of time!
This is rating of a paint jobs, not an actual bikes...
Exactly, these guys have absolutely zero taste - I currently ride 2 Cannondales & their entry this year looks like vomit, one of the worst.
Lots of people will hate on this episode ...
Probably because the bikes at this level are all 10/10 performance wise... All bikes have full carbon frames that are all super light and super aero, integrated carbon cockpits, carbon rims, tubeless tires, highest tier (so shimano dura ace and sram red) 12 spd electronic shifting, hydraulic disk brakes and fully integrated cables. Pretty much the only thing you CAN rate is color choices and how the bike looks visually overall.
That being said, I disagree with most of their takes too
Well none of the bikes have tech advantages anymore. They just copy each other.
@@IgorRapczewski the Van Rhysel would immediately win for affordability.
I personally disagree with almost all of these takes 😂
Yeah man you're not alone
I guess we can all agree that the bianchi and the dare are really ugly
Team Total Energie - Envie bike a 10/10??? What on earth you guys are on? Thanks Emily!!!!
I think they want enve to sponsor them 😂 the bike before that one was to bland and boring “not enough colour” and than they like the worst black bike ever
The smartest one in the room was the mafia lady, she's got taste, the boys favorite bike is all black with a tramp stamp logo on the down tube and wheels?
Should be -5 mafia points not -1
Unfortunately you guys have really bad taste
If only taste was subjective 😂
Fr, it is like high school kids love a fully riced matt black banged civic.
They really do😂
Of course they do. Francis decided to cooperate with Jimmy 🤡 and Jimmy has an ugly wife. They both have bad taste
Very basic taste
I am convinced that living in low-contrast Newcastle has caused your disdain for colours
All white bike - boring. All black bike - 10/10. Makes total sense
Black IS beautiful
Enve suckers
They called the other “black” bike (movistar canyon) boring 🤣
Wrong title. You ranked paint schemes.
Edit: 'chi' in Italian is said 'key'. Mispronouncing one of the oldest and most famous bike brands is just poor form team.
Everything is boring but a black bike with white enve logos is 10/10. Makes sense 🤔
😂😂😂😂👏👏👏. Just branding
Nah, they're shite. Meh. X
They are trying to be sponsored by enve
the enve logo looks like a tribal tattoo from the 90s 🤣 hideous!
These guys have no taste.
Hopefully the girl is there to make sense of all this nonsense. Black frame with logos 10/10... wtf
you mean woman
We should have seen this coming. jimmy’s jerseys are only paint colour with a logo. Nothing spectacular.
The Willier with the blue and silver should’ve been the top if not one of the top. I vehemently go against all black bikes
Is it opposite day already?
Emily the only one with taste 😂😂😂
You guys are OFF YOUR NUT if you rate that Enve higher than the Willier. And you rate the Enve a 10 and a virtually identical Look an 8? Absolutely out of your gourds.
1) Astana Willier
2) Trek Madone
3) EF Cannondale
I disagree with a lot of this - however - bianchi. What are they playing at? I’ve got 7 bianchis ranging from 2006-2020 including a rim brake Specialissima and a disc brake XR4 which are both stunning to look at. I shan’t be ‘upgrading’ to the latest ones.
Can confirm the Enve Melee is a great bike. Recently picked one up for the reasons described in the video. Understated, classic design, nice and neat. Also like Francis I always looked at Enve and was interested but could never afford it. I'm now living out that dream, and it hasn't let me down yet! Great pick.
That Envee Melee looks like a witch's broomstick, no mas
That DARE looks like a Sith lord, and I mean that in a good way
Watched because I thought you would be commenting on the quality and actual use and rideability of the bikes, not what you think about the paint and stickers. I was at the pump track last week and asked an eight year old what kind of bike he rode? He said a red one. Was that you?
You have shown a wrong Look 795 Blade RS bike. Now it is "Iconic Platinum White" with Mondrian elements. Stunning.
The best comments actually came from Emily - were you guys DUI??
Inconsistent scores - 1 point down for whatever, then 4 points down for a seatpost? I mean WTF.
Saw my first Enves today at our coffee stop and they looked amazing. Dark grey with a single black decal on the front. Wanted one immediately.
Most of the bikes would look better without the branding on the rims or with shallow rims and black walled tyres.
Black Enve 10/10? they clearly wanna get sponsored by Enve 🤣 What a bunch tasteless lads 🤣
Personally I love the Redbull and the Willier with the ice paint
THE BORA BIKE BORING? MAAAATE?! Did you even look at the bike? There's litterly nothing boring about it.
Fitting the 2 lads in the video are wearing all black and white T-shirts with white text on them.
now u know who sponsored this episode....
wtf r these people smoking??? there ratings suck and the envee was the worst one
So, you're judging on the paint jobs and how they look? Maybe you should change the title to "best looking" bike.
At least you haven't put 'roasting' in the title , then go on to do very little roasting.
The only one i could absolutely agree with was the bianchi 😭 the factor and Van Rysel were phenomenal looking
No mention of Cavendish's custom Wilier? It's different than the rest of Astana team. Not that I LOVE it, but gotta be 10/10 since it's Cav and a one-off.
And you should have compared with the team kit, see the "whole picture".
Seemed so inconsistent in the scoring as it’s old school and love plain but likes the bike with so many logos, good summary. They like plain black with loads of logos - don’t take recommendations from these 2
Equipment geeks love this kind of stuff. For those who believe they can buy speed and fitness...carry on
How dare you! You don’t even know me! 😂
What dont you like about the dare? The bike 😂
How can I get 17:09 of my life back?
Ranking bikes or paint?
“It looks oldschool”
To me it looks like a spaceship or a timemachine. 😂
Query:
Any of the talking heads here graphic designers or bicycle engineers?
🤔
Why are they scoring paint. Thought the exercise was to judge the bike.
EF Educations bike looks like a bike designed for the Vuelta, rather than the Tour, and why does it have an Emmentaler print on the front fork?
Please tell me how Enve gets a 10/10 when it looks like they printed a sticker out and put it on the head tube? When you compared it to a wilier or colnago, it looks like someone who is first year out of college as a designer…. It’s so cheap looking. Get rid of the square and just put Enve on the front in white. Ahahahah and the location in the down tube is off??
And the super tall head tube… it just looks like you’re climbing up a mountain. It will become more stealthy with next iterations for sure. But classic , Enve bias here.
Your life must me miserable.
They are not just color blind, they are also old school lovers!
next time please do a tier list, would be way more interesting
Have you guys seen the unreleased Tourelly peDDals
But can you rate the bikes now?
I love that dare and propel and that factor even the look
Your hate of specialized really comes out in this 😂😂
So these ratings are only based on appearance?
You can't rate these bikes based on their tech, because they all are literally the same.
Video should be retitled to ranking Tour de France Bike paint jobs.
For this particular question, the bike that wins the race is always the first to mention.
That Cube was the one they used 2023…
Hey how come the Orbea doesn’t get a plagiarism penalty
Because they only plagiarized themselves lol
Baldie has horrific taste 😂
Enve 20/20? I'm really confused😂😂
I’ll give the Bora 10/10 just for the massive Red Bull cool factor 🙏🏼
Tteams weren't aware they had 'worst" bike(s). By your review/opinion, it would be suggested they "chuck " them in the bin. 🙄
White bar tape is always the right answer…
if you want to get brown bar tape a few months later, definitely
@@gloopannEasy to wash. Put on cycling gloves. Dip hand with glove into soapy water. Grab the bars and scrub with a circular motion.
you should make your review as objective as possible not just base it mostly on color/paint job
Ridiculous rating. Cervelo 8/10. Envie? boring. My fav is the Blue Pinarello Dogma.
these guys are absolutely total bonkers
Did Wilier dirty💀
Really disappointing clickbait title to end up hearing you wax on about aesthetics - and badly!
Look at Küng, 2 times chain problems. 1 during the time trial… that’s bad advertisement for Wilier! A 1 I would give it…
The ENVE has a form and shape like the girl. Awesome.
Weird! I imagine that was actually the main purpose of this video.
Enve vs dare logic is flawed...
I thought we would see more comments on quality in stead of the colors…
Mainly based on looks. Colnago V4Rs paint job is boring but the bike is way better than most.
The Bianchi Specialissima is one of the most beautiful bikes I have ever seen. The Oltre is not. But it is not a 2.
You guys made an absolute hash of that 😂😂 but it was very entertaining. Thank god for Mafia Emily.
The Wilier is a work of art, my fave since last year, 10/10. Sir Cav's unique TdF wilier is nice too.
Jimmy, get yourself on a Trek. Between us my dad and I have owned Ribble, Specialized, Focus and Cannondale but we both favour our Trek Emondas. (2019 and 2022)
Love you guys, but this is the worst video you made lately. This is just judging paintjobs, and an inconsistent one.
So unless it’s plain black it’s rubbish. Great advice guys 😂
The title should be ranking paint jobs on TDF team bikes...😒😒
Cannot understand the enve take
the bianchi bike won today 😹
I love the bianchi bike
They’ve no taste !! Harsh on the Van Rysel and the Bora S Works. The Dogma still looks great. My No.1 is the Willier of Astana
Entertainingly hilarious! Made me laugh for sure! 😅😂😂
That said, I agree with some of the other comments - please don’t take offense - you guys have absolutely no design or aesthetic sensibilities. Not trying to be mean or even funny but your design vocabulary is a 0/10. Very funny episode though! 😂
These weirdos just make shit up. Unfollow them and move on.
Proves you guys are tasteless, and your insight into bikes and cycling is based on paint jobs because that's the limit of your knowledge. 😂😂😂
These guys are smoking some funny stuff, they gave the Enve bike a 10 , the bike looked so plain , they loved the wheels more than the bike 🤷🏽♂️
same wheels uae has btw
The Enve bike is so sick and people in the comments have no idea what the fuck they're talking about
bee-an-chee😹
Jonas Abrahamsen, the beauty on the beast!
mafia lady - only peron using barin due to podcast.
How why is the TDF a benchmark for anything good about cycling? Cynical and beyond any redemption. Thanks.
I think this ranking is weird how is one bike that all black a 2 because it’s not original, but the enve bike fits that exact description yet gets a 10? Huh? lol sheep mentality liking something just cause of its brand name? What a load of bs
Your three worse bikes would be my three best ( or at least fighting with the Orbea, the Reacto, and the Foil)... Your best bike is my worst bike😂. Things about tastes...
I watched the whole thing just to see how ignorant about bikes someone who hosts a bike show can get....i am still in disbelief about what i heard and saw....
The Colnago is very cool! I disagree with almost everything you two have said.
What a horrible ranking system. You guys are so subjective and biased.
I personally thought the Bianchi that won the first TDF stage looks great.
The Kazakstanan bike has the best paint job. It should be top3
Your taste for Enve and EF bikes is so biased. They're not even top5 to me.
„Your faste for […] is so biased“, well yeah, taste is indeed biased and personal
@@Nowayfrrrrrrr You're right lol
@@musclelessfitness2045 I meant to say taste not faste though😂
What I don’t understand though, how can you rank some bikes lower because their paint job looks boring from a distance but a black bike is considered 10/10. They should have at least tried to use the same criteria for each bike. Like this the video looks very unprofessional.
@@Nowayfrrrrrrr Yeah, that turned me off when they gave it a 10 out of 10. This is not their best ranking video for sure.
CERVELO S5...12/10!
Madone's design is like that, I don't understand why you guys have to cover up that hole... It's like having a definition of Ferrari's design with a VW standard, really stupid.
I tuned in hoping to hear about superior functional design, superior setup (tire, wheel, drivetrain), superior comfort and handling. All I got was inconsequential chatter about paint jobs. Boring and irrelevant stuff.
So if we do nothing colour wise, it’s a 10? Eh? 😂 whilst your both wearing a white and black plain t shirt? 😂 c’mon!
Can I have the 17 minutes and 9 seconds of my life back? What a waste of tiime - you didn't judge the bikes, you judged paint jobs. I thought you were going to actually give us ride quality or component info. Nope, just visual critiques...and you contridicted yourselves with liking plain, boring black and not liking some of the other "plain, boring" ones, then gave graphically busy bikes like Cannondale's a high score! Again, a waste of time!