TRI Fuel generator Kit Tri fuel conversion Honda Eu3000is
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In this video is a install and review of a Tri fuel conversion kit from US carburation/ Motor snorkel. This kit doesn’t void warranty and is the correct way to properly run natural gas and propane while still being able to use gas any time. Don’t do the DIY home kits as they can be dangerous and even lethal. Hope you like the video and smash 💥 that like button and subscribe 👍🏼
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Hope everyone likes the video. This Really is such a simple kit that performs great. Having the options are nice. For the most part….😂😂 “insider joke” watch to find out…😁👍🏼
Sir,
Thanks for sharing this was very incite-full.
Question: seeing how easy you made it look converting a gasoline to propane. Is it possible to modify to work with an “HHO” fuel source? I’ve seen videos where they use drinking water mixed with an electrolyte (usually baking soda) and a battery of 14v to produce hydrogen. The hydrogen is then used as a fuel source.
This would be a great kit to try this with. I may have to mess around at some point when I have time and see if I can make it work..👍🏼😀
Thanks for sharing this video do you have the link for the generator kit
I thought it was in the description..🤔
Let me check and update
@@johnnysweekends it’s I found it thank you
*A quiet **Generater.Systems** , love the dual fuel capabilities, camper is 50 amp but the adapter helps and found it still handles the load. Haven't taken a camping trip yet, that's in a couple of weeks. Will see how well it does over a long weekend.*
Yes and no.
If you know what you are doing yes, if you don’t then no.
I would say no if you are asking the question.
Because it can be dangerous if you don’t know what your doing
I love the way you narrated the video it keeps it interesting
I LOVED your talking,,, the speed, your jokes,,,, I subscribed just to hear you talk. But yes, information is very helpful for me as well cuz I'm thinking about doing the same thing. THANKS!!!
Lol awesome thank you. And hope to see ya around in more videos 😀👍🏼
For the most part this was quite informative, and for the most part I appreciate the effort you put into doing them. So I guess what I'm saying is that for the most part, THANKS!!!
Lol well thank you. It’s nice to know someone appreciates it, I mean for the most part 😂👊🏼👍🏼
@@johnnysweekends Ordering my kit now!!!!
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Let me know if the links are all still correct 👍🏼
@@johnnysweekends Yes sir, still working.
Ok thanks, sometimes you never know..🤷♂️
Wow! Professional install and testing makes me wish you were my neighbor! I've got a Honda eu2000i and a motor snorkel conversion kit. Hopefully mine will go together and work as well as yours. Thanks for the video.
Thank you. It’s pretty easy, so im sure you’ll do fine. Check for leaks…these are great as i have used these in several videos…amzn.to/49gomMO
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Great, i did same , same kit , added to my Champion 9000/7200 , after testing, i removed the fuel tank completely, i use for my house backup only , works great onHouse gas and propane.
Awesome….!!
Yea I think o may use it on a different gen with more power. The Honda is good but doesn’t run much. Although I don’t need much so who knows. I’m always doing something.
this is also a realy good kit for people that are experimenting with wood gas systems. to have a good regulator
Those kits from US carburation work well have used on 2 inverter generators. Nice work on the Honda nice and clean. Thanks for posting.
Thank you and yes so far they work great. Minimal to do once set up. Just prime and go.
Great video and, in my humble opinion, the best generator on the market! Thanks for sharing.
For the most part really enjoyed the video. Glad it worked out very easy for the most part.
Thank you 😂😂👍🏼👍🏼
I liked your comment, for the most part.
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I have installed this on my Ryobi 2300 inverter generator. I actually run it off natural gas. Installing a gasoline shut-off valve to the generator was the only extra step I had to do. It runs well. They say you lose some power with natural gas and propane. Maybe 20%, but I do not know how to test that. Because of my work schedule, I love that I don't have to worry about refueling it. EVER.
Yes on the small gens they want you to run a separate fuel shut off which I have. But because how the larger Honda is you don’t need to.
I saw that your Honda had its own shut off.
Yea the big one has and the new small 2200 but I think on that model they want you to still use the accessory fuel shut off in a small kit they provide.
@@hoochthefireman you probably could have just pulled the wires off the existing switch on the valve and ran them to a rocker switch. If I do propane on the little generac I bought (same as the ryobi with different case and control panel and no Bluetooth) that will probably be what I will do. Not sure what to do with the choke then however
@@juliogonzo2718 I'm not sure what you mean. I put an in-line gas shut off to be safer. Plus I wanted to keep the ability to run gasoline if needed. My generation of the Ryobi 2300 didn't/doesn't have what you're talking about. I appreciate the tip though.
And For the most part, I learned a bunch from you today!
Blessings to you and yours 🙏 ✨️ 💛
Thank you so much, glad it helped.
And for the most I don’t say that to much any more, sometimes you get stuck on a phrase for a while, so for the most part I stopped saying it…..🤔😂👊🏼🙌🏼😊
Another well done video by Johnny's Weekends! Always look forward to the next one.
I agree
Ordered my dual fuel about three years ago. Haven’t needed it yet, but, better need it and we have it.
Options are always nice. Especially if your set up for 3 types of fuel.
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This is a great innovation I should have, promote it's development and help market in my country
I actually ordered the Hutchmountain LP conversion kit for my new eu3000i, pretty much the same kit. Your video is excellent.
Yes they are pretty much the same and thank you. I appreciate it..😀👍🏼
I don't "smash" like buttons, but I enjoyed your video. Thank you.
I’m glad you enjoyed the video and hope it helped you out. And it’s ok you don’t have to smash 💥 the like button. But it is fun 😂😉👍🏼
I have an older us carburation/Moto snorkel propane kit on my Yamaha 2800. I did this back in the early 2000s. I have the block that goes in front of the carburetor instead of the snorkel. With the block at least for mine it will not run on the eco, it's good to see yours will with the snorkel. I plug mine into the house, and with running a swamp cooler refrigerator and freezer TV internet certain led/florescent lights I went 6 hours on a 20 lb 5 gallon propane tank and still had some left in it. It will also run my heater but my heater is propane in the house. Now the 2800 does have a hard time starting to swap cooler you have to do that first and then add everything on. That's cooler has a hell of a starting load
Anybody cares click on my name I have a couple videos of the generator running with the house.
Awesome yea they are nice kits and sure opens up options 👍🏼
The modification is shown and executed very well but I have a critical observation to make. You Americans are for functional practicality but we Italians also like (in addition...) a pleasant aesthetic. In short, I don't like seeing the pressure reducer attached to the door and drilling it too! I would have preferred to install it under the generator where there is the basket with the wheels, at the pressure reducer an elbow fitting (90°) for the gas inlet... and a protective casing.. For the rest.. 👍 😊
I moved mine to the rear bottom right corner. I didn’t like the door either and wished I had looked at it a little longer verses going with the instructions
I recently purchased the WEN RV-Ready 4000-Watt Open Frame Inverter Generator. I also purchased the Sportsman 4,000/3,500-Watt Dual Fuel Powered Portable Generator. I have to say I like the Sportsman setup with a 20# propane bottle much better than using gasoline. My Wen inverter/generator does not have the propane option, but now it looks like I can convert it with one of these kits. Thanks for making this video.
No problem they are simple to install and tuning isn’t hard as well.
Thanks for the comment and thanks for watching 😀👍🏼
This is on my list to convert my generac. Many thanks.
Your welcome, such a simple kit….👍🏼😀
Great vid! I installed this on my Yamaha 2000i inverter gen and I love it. I’m thinking of installing on my big Honda eu6500 for home backup.
That would be a excellent place for it. I use the smaller gens for portable and the bigger for home when needed.
I just ordered a propane carb adapter for my eu6500is on ebay for 59 bucks. I have the regulators from my other propane setups.
Excellent, excellent, excellent video instructions. Great job!!!!
Thank you..and thanks for watching 👍🏼😀
Excellent video! We were sure glad to get to work with you and we are glad you like our kit!
Thank you. It’s a easy install for sure..👍🏼
Now I can hook directly to the trailer or my home.
Thanks again…👍🏼😀
For those most part.. this looks pretty good.
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its always good to have backup choices LPG has 38% less energy thn gasoline propane is normally alot higher cost per gallon 4.6 gallons should be a full fill on a 20lb cylinder but many underfill only way to know is weigh it propane is 4.24 lbs per gallon weigh cylinder then subtract tare weight of cylinder ( stamped on cylinder) i find alot only fill 15lbs of propane
propane is better overall for engine because it goes in as a gas and dont have cylinder/piston
wash down caused by gasoline
I would also check for 60 cycles at the outlet as well.
its an inverter. It will always be at 60 hertz. On a regular generator, sure.
Interesting and easy to install. Overall, a nice job. Yes, you will use more propane / NG than gasoline and that's because those fuels have less BTUs by volume. OTOH, those fuels do burn cleaner and don't go bad with time. (stale gasoline anyone?) That said, my primary concern with any of these conversions is invalidating the gen set's warranty (your call there) and the UL listing. Basically, the UL listing is about the unit being tested as "safe for it's intended purpose, as designed by the mfgr" You make changes / modifications on the unit and the factory's liability is no longer there. (I.E. burn the house down, blow yourself up, etc)
Agree but much better then the kill your self DIY videos going around for NG. Straight line to the green and no regulator. Meaning if the gen shuts off, the gas still flows and if your asleep or not around your creating a bomb for you and your neighbors.
@@johnnysweekends .... all UL approved gen sets have a second means of automatic fuel shut off via an electric gas solenoid AND a demand regulator. If the engine dies (low oil?) the gas is also shut off. The demand regulator you have *SHOULD* shut the gas off if the engine dies but this does NOT have a secondary safety.
The DIY videos that are going around for converting a gen to NG is a valve on the outside of the house. Then a extension line ran directly to the generator air box in front of the carb throat. Your turn the gas on by the valve then the generator on and control the mixture at the hand valve. That’s it. That’s what people are doing. There is no safety there. So if the gen shuts off for any reason the gas supply is free will. It will bleed out of the air box and everywhere.
This is what is going around on other videos.
@@johnnysweekends ... I serviced gen sets for 25 years and have seen many (bad) things, but that's insanity! The style you feature has been around for decades and at one time was approved, but that was before people got law suit happy.
It’s true. No one is liable for there own stupidity anymore lol. But yea the conversion set has been around I guess a long time. They work good though. But maybe install after warranty is up 🤷♂️
But yea you should look for the video. I may even make one on saying “don’t do this” lol before we see people on the news.
Explained fast and clearly!
Thank you…👍🏼😀
Too many posters drone on and on, thoroughly enjoyed your style. 👍
Thank you, I know I dont have time for watching that, so I don’t wanna deliver it to my viewers. GET TO THE POINT!!!! 🤣🤣🤣👍🏼
Thanks for the comment and thanks again for watching 👍🏼😀
I've installed a few propane kits. I will not use another motor snorkel kit out of WV. Didn't fit motor snorkel rubbing the fuel bowl and had to remove then engine didn't want to run. Also down the road if the motor snorkel rubber piece falls in the engine it could damage and lock up the motor. Hutch mountain, synergy, century fuels and a few others have propane kits that are a lot better than the motor snorkel deal. And when I talked to motor snorkel they just wanted to sandwich out the motor snorkel with longer bolts. That's not good as small as these bolts are that are holding the air filter on and with time good chance to strip or break off even with loctite on bolts.
Interesting. I know this is a updated snorkel from years past but I don’t have any experience with those.
Thanks for the feedback.
I just put one on a 3500 predator. it would only run 700 watts before stumbling on gasoline. the rubber snorkel looked like it covered holes on carb. took it off.......ran fine.
Your Title said "TRI" Fuel. And you sure made it use Propane perfectly. Great!. But I want ONLY NG in my home when; we lose power.. So why didn't you show us how; it works when using NG? Huh?
I NEED it! Thanks.
You need to ask a little more politely.
I didn’t receive a NG connection kit. Which can vary depending on your home. Which you should have someone hook up if you T off a line from the gas feed. I’m not going to show you because I don’t know what your doing or your hookups. So liability wise it’s not in my best interest.
And NG has a lot less btu’s then propane and even more so then gas. It’s like 5 gallons of NG to every 2 of gas and 3.5 ish for propane…… roughly.
I showed how to install the kit and that it works on gas and propane and NG won’t be much different but a adjustment will be needed depending.
I did this... The gen had problems starting and running. What nobody stressed is that the gas fuel requires a hotter spark and you may have to close down the spark gap. So that got it running on LP gas although it sputters on sudden load increases. Then I tried to run on NG and it is total crap. Now I have a high performance kart racing coil coming to see if I had a marginal ignition system. Also I have heard that these engines can have too tight of valve lash making the compression marginal. For me this hasn't been as easy as the videos.
Propane I didn’t have a issue. But yea close the gap if you need to and sometimes one hotter plug depending where you might be. I dont do NG much because I dont have outages for days on end.
I just gapped the standard plug down to .018" and on LP found it now will pick up a sudden load from no load nicely. Even ECO mode. I have a hot coil and plug for when I resume testing with NG.
@cheaptick yes a tighter gap for propane helps 👍🏼
Really good presentation!
I like this. The only thing of consern to me is gas leakage either through the intake air filter or the exhaust.
In a scenario where the generator for some reason shuts off. Will the propane escape through the intake filter?
Also, in a scenario where we have low load or varying load. Since the propane provides constant flow and gas pressure, will unburnt gas be pushed right out the exhaust?
The generator will vary the gasoline consumption depending on the load. The modified system, I'm guessing from what I saw, doesn't. Gas leaks can be pretty dangerous specially around electric systems.
Lastly, the plunger style bleeder could start to leak overtime.
Overall I like this conversion. But understanding the risks and the system limitations is a must.
This type of regulator works more opposite. Flow from the bottle closes the diaphragm. Vacuum then opens it to allow flow of the propane. So when generator shuts off the flow stops.
Now sure over some years that back primer button could possibly start to leak. But like anything prechecks should be done like most things once in a while. Hope this helps
Nice video Johnny.
Thanks 👍🏼😀
something most people dont know is that propane burns dry they used to have to replace the valves in converted vehicles because the factory valves we not hardened i think pretty much all valves are hardened now, but if you start to have trouble (low compression) or have an older unit might check
I don’t think out door power equipment like lawn mower engines are going to have hardened valves. Maybe the newer dual fuel units but a true propane unit or NG with have better valves.
@@johnnysweekends i think with the advent of low lead fuels they had to go to a harder type valve but yes probably not like in a car , truck or gas tractor
Finally got my kit. After watching the video, there are some parts that I don't know their use. There are two short bolts. What are they used for? There is a tiny screw (Bolt) that I don't know its use either. I noticed you did not use the flat washers. Where exactly are they supposed to go? My kit did not come with a grommet, but I have one. Your advice is appreciated, before I start this project.
Sometimes they do give you extra parts for different mounting areas.
Did you lay everything out. There really isn’t a whole lot of parts needed. I used a few of my own because I mounted the big regulator on the gen on the door but actually removed it and mounted it on the rear right side kinda low. Took the back panel off. But tubing is ran the same.
@@johnnysweekends Got it. Thanks.
I'd like to see you put this Regulator through another test using GASOLINE VAPOR, BUTAIN, CARBIDE GAS and HYDROGEN GAS if possible. Would you do these test using these types of Fuel? Thanks for the upload.
Would be a good test but I don’t think the regulator is designed for those types of fuels. Would have to see what the density is of NG and propane and compare I guess to see. Not to familiar with burning carbide gas.
Holy crap! He found his 10mm socket.
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Brilliant idea. Look forwards to trying that out
It’s a nice option to have. 👍🏼😀
Why locate regulator that low where it could hit something when rolling around. But great video thinking of putting one online for home use.... Because can store propane in a couple of 100 lb tanks for years, and not have to worry about gasoline every 8 hours.
I would worry about improper fuel setting and lean operation shortening the engine life. Propane already cause engine run hotter than gasoline because it's already vaporized at the tank , atomized gasoline vaporizes in cylinder and provides a small but measurable amount of cooling
Correct, fuel is a cooling agent for the upper cylinder. With propane it seems to be more finicky with the load dial. Now I did try to go towards the rich side a little by a 1/4 turn. Will this help…🤷♂️
As far as the regulator I already relocated it to the rear panel as the side would get in the way of storing it places. Much better there. Still low but I’m not traveling around with that unit and throwing it in trucks. Just gets used for back up or small things.
@@johnnysweekends that sounds good I'm toying with the idea of not installing the load regulator on the generator permanently just placing it next to it or such. Connect with just a quick connect when needed. Leave capped off when not. I would only use propane for emergency home use when power is out for long period.
I've damaged things bouncing around in the back of trucks. But my 215 lb generator isn't something I want to put back there. I got a smaller one I can use most of the time
That’s what I did with this unit..
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@@johnnysweekends yep, I think they say to keep it within 3 ft or something like that using the 3/8 in hose but if you went with a larger hose you could probably mount it wherever you wanted to mount it, within reason just on the propane bottle
True. One reason in that other video I did want it on the generator. But I use the on board regulator from my Rv when I don’t use that one.
I like this video...for the most part.
🤣🤣 Thank you 😂👍🏼
While this is an awesome video, one should point out that if you don't already have this generator, Duromax has their XP4500iH generator. As the name implies, it has 4,500 starting watts (1,500 more than the Honda) and 3,600 running watts (800 more than the Honda), runs on both gas and propane (I don't know anyone who hooks up a permanent gas line to a portable generator, but I guess some do), all for less than half the price. While everyone knows just how outstanding Honda generator engines are, the Duromax comes with a 3 year warranty. I guess my point is, if you don't already have the generator, you might want to consider the many dual fuel options out there.
Yes there many options out there now to get a dual fuel and much cheaper. Which I always recommend if you are going to buy a generator look into a dual for due to its many advantages.
@@johnnysweekendsI watched all the TV ads during your video to help you out. Every little bit helps.
I buy something like this based upon its country of origin: not from CCP
Very Informative - Want to do the Same thing, except with the Honda 7000i, as a home backup generator to a Solar/Battery system … So, DID, “like” the video - Considering, subscribing… Almost, because of the Annoying Fast Talking, clicked off the video in the first 15 seconds - but, stayed because of the subject/content - Glad I did …
Glad you stayed. The fast talking is to get through the content quick. I try to not add fluff or stories that don’t pertain to the content I’m showing except maybe a quick joke of some sort to see if people are truly listening lol.
I watch TH-cam my self and I enjoy peoples content but when I just wanna see the item I don’t need a 2 minute story of why you bought it and what the weather was like and how your car was having trouble that day.
So I try to flow through the content quick.
Like anything some people appreciate the quick ramble to get through it and some it’s to fast.
But thanks again for staying and watching.
And thanks for the comment 👍🏼😀
@@johnnysweekends I appreciate your style! Also i use the playback speed adjuster if I want to speed up (usually) or slow down content.
I do the same lol
Informative for the most part.
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Interesting, would like to have seen it go back to gas after install. Can you switch between gas and propane on the fly?
Yup you can, tried it a couple times but I didn’t do it on the video, sorry. But yea nothing changed. Just turn on gas and pulled choke and go.
Only thing is don’t slam or pull hard on the choke as you can feel the snorkel give a little resistance. So just pull easy and it fired right up. Obviously your generator should be in good running condition.
But yea so far so good. Super easy and love the options. A little spendy for the kit I guess but it’s the safe way to do it and honestly it couldn’t be a easier install.
Glad I had the opportunity to get one to try.
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@@johnnysweekends Thank for the feedback.
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Excellent video
Thank you..😀👍🏼
fantastic video great tips. Thanks
Your welcome glad it helped
Good job, "for the most part".
😂😂😂😂👍🏼 between that and one other word I use a lot.
Better then saying ummmmm all the time and like….🤣
Good instruction video. “ For The Most Part “ 😊
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Thanks for watching 😀👍🏼
Us Carbonation no longer shows a kit for the Honda EU-3000is on their web site. Also, on hold forever on the phone. The ease of the kit you have is what got my attention.
Interesting not sure why they would discontinue but maybe it’s just not listed.
I don’t know keep trying I know tons of places are short staffed so maybe try again
@@johnnysweekends Finally got an email response from the company. The kit doesn't show up on their web site, but they claim to still sell it. Looks like I'll be buying one.
Oh nice…. Glad you got one..👍🏼
Great video,well done! How about high elevation like 7,000 to 9,000 ft.? thanks from Dennis
It will also work at elevation to but really cold temps could cause some freezing issues.
And thank you..😀👍🏼
@@johnnysweekends Thank you for your fast response!
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Had I done more research, I would have bought a different generator than my Honda 3000is. The problem with the Honda 3000is is that you need to run it frequently, at least once a month, or the carb will gum up. Even if you turn of the gas supply and run it dry! I bought the generator for emergency power backup and seldom use it. I wish now I had bought a dual fuel generator instead. For. $2500 you would think you could get a generator that didn’t need to be babied and run all the time. Not impressed with my Honda and I would advise others to look at other models.
Well most all small engine items need to be ran often or use a fuel stable or fuel conditioner. This will help a ton.
But yes unfortunately the Honda is not bullet proof. I just sold mine after finding out some honda parts are getting harder to find. I could not find a new inverter board for it. I looked at 3 different web sites and can up as not available. If this dies then it’s a paper weight. A real expensive paper weight. 🫤
@@johnnysweekends I do use fuel stabilizer in all of my equipment. But my chainsaws, weed whacked, snow blower, and lawn mower all start fine after sitting for months on end. The Honda can’t sit for more than a month. I just got it back from the Honda dealer who ended up putting a new carb in it. They told me I should start it every two weeks! Like I’ll remember to do that! Anyway,thanks for the video. I’m seriously considering installing the propane conversion to get away from the issues with gas.
Yea propane does help getting away from all that for sure. So it’s nice. Not as efficient but nice. Then it’s just keeping battery charged
good friend as it is called the packing that replaces for you to inject gas inside the carburetor.?
Hahahah, I like the piano part..... Your comments are the best
😂😂 yea I throw little things in here and there to see if anyone picks it up or how much they are paying attention. 😂👍🏼
a choke is used as a way so suck more liquid fuel (gasoline) out of a carburetor from low engine vacuum and is not required for gaseous fuels.
Nice, but can you go back to gas w/o changing what you did for propane?
Yes !!!! Just switch the gas valve back on and fire it up..👍🏼
Already did it a few times to check.
@@johnnysweekends Cool. Conversion kit is almost as much as what I spent for my 3500 Champion tho.
$189?
@@johnnysweekends $325 New.
Got ya. Just don’t do the diy home valve thing with no regulator. Those are the people you see dead on the news.
Is there a kit for a Harbor Freight 79cc engine? or perhaps those 35cc 4 stroke weed eater engines?
You would have to call the company direct and they maybe able to help.
Very nice
Do that kit work on EU7000IS
and what kit is it please
Thank you
I haven’t done it on the 7000. Is yours fuel injection? Carb model will work.
In the description should have all the parts.
Let me know 👍🏼
Great tutorial! Thanks for sharing
Your welcome and thanks for watching 👍🏼😀
What's the thread sealer you are using? So much better the Teflon tape.
Plumbers putty. 👍🏼
Good video brother!
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Brilliant
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newbie w questions...are there any out of the box smaller, say 2500-3500 watt tri fuel inverter generators out there..just went thru an ice storm with a week of 0° wind chills and only relying on mr buddy heaters..it got old pretty fast..
another question, how can you tell if the propane tank is old and purged of air?
last question..some sites say that a 20lb propane won't vaporize enough in cold weather to run at higher loads..?? they suggest using 2 30lb tanks..??? thx for the video
Most times you wont see a NG generator that small since BTU output is so low. You would have a 2500 start 1800 run on gas, 1600ish on propane and NG would be like 1200 maybe. I would take the propane tank to a service center if it’s old and have inspected, and they can also answer the other question better. And yes smaller tanks can freeze the regulators quicker in cold temps. Normally from my reading a higher flow regulator is needed and say a 40lb tank.
I need to do my older Honda EG 3500x for my gen needs do u know if that one will work on mineas well ?I have 10 gallon gas tank causei dont use the lil 2 gallon factory tank at all cause I'm in the woods .Looks great thanks for any help you can info me on .
I’m not a hundred percent sure if this kit will fit. But Honda did use the same carb for a lot of models. May have to call and double check
Does this adjust the fueling level to demands, or does it just allow a set amount of gas through even when the demand is low?
The load regulator does exactly that. Adjusts to the demand of the load while the load block is like a fuel adjustment screw to fine tune and then your good. 👍🏼
Like Johnny said that’s the exact purpose of this kit. Also this will shut down the gas flow when the generator shuts down which is very important. There are some videos on TH-cam showing how you can run a generator by taking the gas line to your stove and manually dialing the air to fuel ratio. That works if the load is constant, but if you’re actually using the generator to power anything , the load is almost never constant, and also, the gas flow will not stop unless you manually shut it off in that case. That’s why a zero demand regulator like the one in this kit is very important.
Very and good point! With out a regulator you are letting gas virtually flow freely which is extremely dangerous for you and your neighbors. Unfortunately not everyone is safe and uses Good judgment.
The cost for a kit is worth it verses a diy job that could kill you and others…
My sister bought an old house last year. For Christmas, my parents and I are buying her a Generac 5500E and having a transfer pannel installed. Since all her yard equipment is battery powered I am concerned about the gasoline situation. I am considering doing a trifuel conversion on the generator to prevent future problems. What does everyone think?
Is just really adds options and if the carburetor gums over basically a jet gets plugged the propane snorkel still works. Propane stores allot longer and normally has less running issues. Only thing is you burn more propane because it’s not as efficient. Again the options are nice to have.
@@johnnysweekends Ultimately, I am worried about bad gas. She doesn't use gasoline, so I'm thinking that it wouldn't be unrealistic to have a situation where the power goes out and the gas she has at the house or in the tank is 2 years old. Atleast with propane that is not much of a problem. Another thing is that she does have natural gas going to her garage. It might be worth having a quick connect hookup Installed. That way she never has to worry about fuel. Ultimately, she lives near downtown, the power might go out once every couple of years. The problem is that her basement has a parameter drain with a subpump pit. If those pumps loose power her basement will flood.
Yea the propane or NG seems like a better way to go. I also recommend it for people who only have there power go out once in a while and have that available at there home. Or just grab a 5g bottle or two.
All depends what they wanna run.
You said “for the most part” a lot when referring to how the generator is running. I’m not sure if that’s because there were certain things happening that you weren’t thrilled about or if it was just out of habit?
😂😂 I say that and another word a lot out of habit in my videos because you don’t wanna say “ummm” and “like” at the time.
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@@johnnysweekends did you change the spark plug, propane needs hotter plugs i believe?
Nope I did as recommended and left it alone. Ran perfect. Was actually surprised how well it ran through the whole rpm range.
Now of course your generator needs to be in good running condition as well though.
How do you switch from propane back to gasoline? What makes this kit different from those that only use one or the other?
On the generator turn fuel switch off and run till empty. Or open side panel and just use the drain screw. Then turn on propane.
New at this can you add a gauge to indicate how much is left in your propane tank?
Yes you can and there are a couple different types. Now for the most part they are not super accurate but can give you a idea. Like for instance you may have a 1/4 tank left but the gauge will read empty.
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Perhaps, the feul regulator is too open? You could have tried tightening it a little to see when the gen set will stop producing full power. This process might help you save some gas.
You don’t want to run the unit to lean or could burn up so a little extra is better then not enough.
Great video! How long will a 20lb tank run? Of course, what you run in the trailer will be a variable .
So a 20lb tank is almost 5 gallons of usable fuel. The Honda 3000 has 3.4 gallon tank. And will run 20 hrs on 1/4 load according to specs. Which with the propane bottle holding about 4.5-4.7 usable gallons of fuel I would assume almost the same amount of time for that amount of propane or close.
@@johnnysweekends No...not pretty close. Depends what generator your running for actual time, but Propane is 27% less efficient than gasoline, so figure about 25% min. less time.
Gasoline has 116000 btu's per gallon. Propane has 92500 btu's per gallon. You will have to consume the equivalent of 1.25 gallons of propane for every gallon of gasoline. The honda eu3000is has a 3.4 gallon tank, therefore you would need 4.26 gallons of propane to provide the equivalent amount of energy. Which is a little less of the 4.7 gallons in a full 20 lb tank of propane.
So then I was close enough for a guesstimate 😂👍🏼
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If your never going to run on gasoline milling the head to get the compression up to burn the high octane propain better will give you a lot more run time on a tank of propane .
I’m all for bumping compression….. maybe open the ports a little while I’m there…change out the valves
Actually better leave it alone…😂😂😂👍🏼
@@johnnysweekends i atleast adjust the valves on my small engines before firing them up. They generaly have double the lash they call for. When your only opening a valve .310" every.010 counts. Thanks for the vids. We ran a lot of ng and propane engines on the farm. Compression was the key to bringing the power back up to gasoline levels. I do not miss the days of having to heat up a mixer with a torch to unfreeze it on the side of the road in the winter. 😂
Lol I bet. And good point if it’s gonna be primarily a propane or NG generator then yea tightening up the lash wouldn’t be a bad idea.
Although my gen in this video actually made full power no problem. I was pretty surprised to see the meter show the amps as high as they were. Over 3000 watts ..👍🏼
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"For the most part!"
Darn right! 👍🏼
Is the same amount of propane flowing out of the tank regardless of engine RPM ? If yes, is this ok ? Does the engine run rich at low RPM and lean at high RPM ? Maybe im not understanding something but it seems like there is no physical connection between any fuel regulators and the actual generator. Just that bolt that got 5 or 6 turns.
Also, that fuel supply snorkel that went behind the airbox looks like thin / unprotected material that could easily get a hole vibrated into it over time.
There are two regulators. One on the tank, and the load regulator on the generator. The load generator has a diaphragm in it to open and close a valve to allow for more gas flow. Then it goes past the load block…. Which is the bolt you turn which acts kinda like a jet for fine tuning.
So yes it is fully regulated verses some diy tricks that can and will possibly kill you.
awesome video
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Great video thank you
You’re welcome and thanks for watching 😀👍🏼👊🏼
I didn't see it running on natural gas? What is the procedure for it?
Same as propane since it’s pressurized. Although since it has less btu’s you may need to adjust the load block a little bit once set for gas and propane I would leave it if it works.
I'm going to have to rewatch this and count how many times he said 'go ahead'
He says "for the most part" about 84 times!
Wow really ??? I though it was high 50s
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Nice one, so how does it work on NG connected to the house, also I have a Korean brand generator is the kit the same for most genies. cheers.
Yes the kit is mostly the same you just have to get the correct snorkel. That’s the only part that would be a little different. But a lot of gens runs very similar carbs and bolt patterns but still need to find the correct for your gen. You may have to email them.
As for NG it’s almost identical to running propane only you get a little less btu’s so slightly less power. So the load block may have to be adjusted slightly different.
This kit works great on NG. There is minimal power loss when running on NG, from my experience. The key is setting up the regulator on low, medium and large loads. The engine should be running smooth. (Use a wattage meter to see the hertz)
Once it's set up, you will be fine and won't have to make any adjustments. Also, you have to have the correct size gas pipes and NG pressure and volume being delivered to the generator.
Yea I didn’t notice any loss on Lpg so that was nice. I would have thought a little on NG though.
No son of mine will be a "piano genius". He'd better be a small engine genius. :0
He’s actually really good 😀👍🏼
Plays bass some and other things.
Music is big in our family as I’m a drummer and very basic acoustic guitar player ..😂👍🏼
@@johnnysweekends I too was a drummer in a wedding band back in the days. These days just play the guitar for fun. Wife has a degree in teaching piano, but we couldn't get the kids to get to within a mile of any instruments.
I can’t get my kids in the garage to turn a wrench 🔧 😂
But my son is 15.5 and will be driving soon so he has now started tinkering with the car a little. I told him he can’t drive till he knows a few things like tire change, fluids and more 👊🏼👍🏼
Can you use gas in an emergency if you remove the tube from behind air box?
Gas can still be used in your generator. This only adds the ability to run the generator on propane or natural gas. So now you can run all three fuels when ever you choose.
Obviously one at a time.
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How long would you say a bottle of propane would last using general mundane household electronics like lights, space heater and refrigerator?
Also, is propane an efficient, inexpensive alternative to gasoline? Bottle of propane has 4.7 gallons at $4 a gallon vs 3 dollars per gallon in gasoline ⛽
Gasoline is more efficient and will get longer run times.
The Honda 3000 will run 20 hrs on a full tank @ 1/4 load on 3.4 gallons according to specs. The same amount of propane would probably get you between 17.5 and 18.5 hrs. There is a formula but that’s in the general area.
@@johnnysweekends thanks Johnny.
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What are the advantages of running propane over gas then? Considering its so expensive over gasoline.
@@1malikalik some people have big tanks of propane on the property and it's delivered by a big truck. gas is heavy and goes bad if left to long . So if your just using it for back up power it makes a lot of just my 2 sense. 😅🤣🤣
Yup.
i have a question. when you decide to run it on gas. wouldnt there be a vacuum leak through the larger regulator? isnt there a small vent at the bottom?
larry
The regulator that stays on the gen should be closed off. But I wonder if there could be enough vacuum to open and draw air. But on the snorkel there is a little hole to prevent vacuum and only allow pressurized gas to come up it.
I may look again and double check but never had a issue running on gas or any difference.
You bring up a very good point and something I never thought about. We have the same kit installed on a Predator 9000/7250 generator. We use NG as our primary fuel source and gasoline as a back-up.
I installed a gas shutoff valve in front of the regulator. If there would be a vacuum leak, this valve in the close position, would prevent it.
Thank you, one quick question.... Would this work for wood gas ? From a gasifier system.
Honestly I dont know. It’s not designed for that.
If I run off propane. Do I need the propane regulator?
Yes the instructions say you need both. Not saying you need there’s specifically but yes to regulate tank pressure and the one on the generator is a load regulator.
But you wanna make sure the tank regulator is the correct pressure/ volume.
@@johnnysweekends go figure.
Was helping my dad. Didn't bother reading instructions. Got it to run using the kit regulator but did not have propane regulator. Thanks!
Can you also use gasoline while having this system installed? Seems like it will block auto chokes from closing
Yes the gas option is still usable. You use the choke as normal just don’t smash it closed hard. That’s what’s nice of the kit. All 3 options, just choose.
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@@johnnysweekends nice. Are you going to try it with natural gas too?
Maybe. But it should be close to the same. It takes more natural gas to get the same power of propane. So it’s possible the load block screw may need a turn out but wouldn’t for sure till I tried.
Very usefull video. Thank's.
Your welcome and thanks for watching 👍🏼😀
If this is natural gas or propane how is this 3 type of file if you are removing the carburetor for regular gas
You are not removing the carb. It stays in place. You add a additional piece. This allows you to run 3 types of fuel.
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Nice work excellent video, thumbs up..
Can i use my home made bio-gas?
Not sure you would have to try it…
Can you shut off using only the key? Or do you have to turn off propne tank valve? Thanks
Yes key but only if you plan to use it again later. If not running For the rest of the day shut it off at the tank first. Then key.
I haven't seen a choke on a small engine and years, the older stuff yes it's the newer stuff
Yea depends on brand and model. Honda still uses a choke 👍🏼
Most of the kits I've used has a vacum operated regulartor /carburator . Looks like this 1 designed to run a set flow rate ?
You adjust it like a carburetor
How long does the tank last?
Depends on load and tank size… could be 10hrs or 20hrs…🤷🏼♂️