In Italy you can return anything you bought that you don't like BUT you won't get your money back. You'll have to take another thing of equal value, or more (then you'll have to add a bit of money). This happened to me a few times. Even today while buying a new sink for the kitchen we were told that we have 100 days to change our minds, if we don't like it we can take it back and then they'll give us something else. But now by law they don't have to give you your money back.
You approach and address these topics so well, Rafi! They are extremely hard to explain to people without them having experienced what you are talking about. I think you do an awesome job of bridging that gap!🙌🏽
I loved this video. I’m retired and living in Ecuador and although the work part doesn’t apply to my life anymore, everything you say is 100% true. Language, expat bubbles, assimilation, difficulty, the romantic vs. the reality. I love being rooted where I am now but the first three months were incredibly trying psychologically and emotionally. It never gets “easy” like our home country but we adjust and change. It changes your entire life, outlook, and future. That’s the tremendous reward. Thank you for articulating this so well.
Thanks so much for the feedback! Much appreciated:) Regarding Turin specifically I’d have to take to think a little bit. But I’m curious what attracts you to that city specifically
@@RafaelDiFuria We like the weather (love cold weather), proximity to other major European cities, the Alps and architecture. Again, though, would like your perspective and thoughts on Turin...
I have words that for some reason only come out in German, and I have a lot of trouble remembering the English word. It's always fun listening to people who are new to Europe find out stores aren't always open here. When you talk about the "expat bubble" it reminds me of American who live on the military post instead of on the economy. Even after 2 or 3 years they never stop treating the country their living in like a foreign place.
Instead of writing another dissertation, I'll say it like this: most people who say they want to be expats don't really want to be expats. They just want to live out the fantasy of being in their favorite movie. They want the fantasy, not the reality. If you're going to survive, you have to not just be willing to deal with the reality, but actually WANT it. People need to ask themselves if they want to be tourists or the real deal. It's ok to be a permanent tourist as long as you realize that you will never assimilate into the culture being said tourist. If you can't afford to be a permanent tourist, i.e., you're not wealthy enough to ignore having to assimilate into the culture, your life is going to be very, very frustrating and lonely.
@@TheRomanPilgriminPerson You don't have to be wealthy at all to assimilate. Learn the language and customs, and live like everyone else lives. It costs just as much as any other western country as an expat, and just like any other nation, you can't just show up and expect everything to be fine. You need to be able to support yourself, and that means living within your means. Obviously no one moves to Italy for a career or great job opportunities, so you must take that into account as well. If you think you have to be wealthy to live in Italy, then you don't really want to assimilate; you want to live like you live in your own country and just change the scenery.
You are definitely right. Those who go to another country to live there generally go there for various reasons but essentially for three: - for economic reasons; he finds a job there or the job he has at home forces him to go elsewhere (abroad) and stays there for convenience. He may consider staying there for a few years, saving up and returning home. Instead, he can start a family and stay. In the first case he will be an expat, in the second, if with his family he integrates into the social world, he will become an immigrant, otherwise he will remain an expat; - for residential tourism; he will very often remain an expat. He will spend months in the new land and then return to his homeland. He will learn rudiments of the language, of local customs, essentially to operate more easily in everyday life. And so over the years. He will hardly integrate. A classic example is that of the numerous English who bought a house in Spain forming self-referential enclaves separated from the Spanish reality. Not learning even a word of Spanish, without real contact with the land that hosts them and often despising it; -because he is fascinated by the new country and believes that his life can have a qualitative advantage; if the initial flirtation fades and feels that there are too many difficulties or changes in established habits (often referred to as "culture shock"), he will remain an expat and eventually leave, otherwise he will become an immigrant and over time may apply for citizenship (with all the burdens and benefits it might have).
Lots of good, practical info. I'm still moving. :>)) I've lived in NYC so this does not seem so foreign to me but I still love NYC so... I always smiled with Europeans said they had 'seen' the US because they had visited NYC. Nope. Until you spent time in the Midwest or South you don't know. Great video. TY
I think I’m going to rent an Airbnb for the first three months in Italy. That will help me ease into everything, look for a place….. I don’t want expat bubble but would be nice to meet one or two expats to help …
A western expat reasons not to: 1 No pension contributions, 2 sooner or later you will become homesick, isolated, lonely because you'll miss, 3 miss family and home, 4 miss your language. 5 bureaucracy, 6 some countries do not give you right to own a home with residence, 7 if you have children born abroad their home nationality can be compromised, 8 children documentations will require double attestations, one from home country once again from expat country 9 you will eventually get tired of their different system, 10 you will always be a foreigner and it will never be your real home
Thanks for letting me know :) Until that episode comes out here’s a video on why you should move to a Italy in case you haven’t seen it th-cam.com/video/jSHTIimISYE/w-d-xo.html
Consider a video detailing the expat community. Are they typically easy to find in Italy? Welcoming? Do expats typically stay in one place or move away? I know you are not pro expat but I would like to hear more.
Interesting topic. I think every new country or way of life gives us something new to discover. HOWEVER, that new county or way of life will also take something comfortable away. What was difficult in your native country can become very easy in Italy. Things that are difficult to accomplish in Italy, can be very easy in another country, etc. Moving abroad in the end , is not romantic. It takes lots of effort and yes, you had better know the language before you arrive. It also pays to have money in the bank, because finding work in a new country is not so easy.
The puff up your chest place = Italy (at the post office, bank etc...) I don't like this about Italy... I love the fact that you don't have to do that in Japan
Wo, what happened with the italian lawyer show with details about moving there and retiring to paradise affordably...thanks for sharing your experiences...here things have changed and is take it or leave it...Spain is an option too..is understable about language barrier seriously in the US immigrants get paid less and don't even pay the language....ordeals are harsh not paying for work is unacceptable
It sounds scary specially for seniors, this game changing isn't good, where in the world do you live, this happens here too, there's drastic poverty at points of life, everyone trampling over the next..most definitely keeping things is becoming the thing but as you get older things become more acceptable. Yes the siesta time is their thing. We are seing appointments here at the US too. You must visit the market and pack food in your back pack. The question is, would you have stability in living, health insurance which is a gamble at the states..if this is also a case my God...loneliness can happen
Besides Aldi and Lidl, when I was in California Food 4 Less also did not have people to bag the groceries and supposedly that was how you saved money but it didn't seem like it was that much cheaper really. Then again when I worked at a grocery later on that actually had baggers, the baggers actually made chump change anyway. So, maybe that really is all you save by not having those guys.
I just watched your 2 latest videos and I totally get what you are saying. I moved to Bari 3 months ago because both my parents and ancestors are from Bari. I have watched ALL of your videos and the ones you do with Marco for 2 years before coming here and I can agree 90% with everything you say in both videos even though my circumstances are different from yours. I am a 67 year old American woman, retired. Living a dream of Jure Sanguinis and doing it alone. Everything from the Leases to the language barrier are difficult. Best of luck to you on your upcoming move. I've really enjoyed your work! Thank You!
That’s awesome. I’m looking to do the same thing. I lived in Italy in my late 20’s and can’t wait to retire there soon. My dad was stationed in Bari during WWII and befriended a six year old girl named Antoinette. I still have her photo. I know that many people in Italy are named some version of Antoinette or Anthony so wouldn’t be able to find her! 😁
Sorry man it seems you are some one who makes the move and think later. It took you more than a decade to realize you have made a mistake. Here is a Friendly unsolicited good faith advice. When you came back to US you will regret it again so don’t destroy all bridges behind you because
This year , I am celebrating 40 years as an expat .
Lots of ups and lots of downs . Regrets ? None .
Totally agree with your explanation about the expat bubbles
In Italy you can return anything you bought that you don't like BUT you won't get your money back. You'll have to take another thing of equal value, or more (then you'll have to add a bit of money). This happened to me a few times. Even today while buying a new sink for the kitchen we were told that we have 100 days to change our minds, if we don't like it we can take it back and then they'll give us something else. But now by law they don't have to give you your money back.
You approach and address these topics so well, Rafi! They are extremely hard to explain to people without them having experienced what you are talking about. I think you do an awesome job of bridging that gap!🙌🏽
I loved this video. I’m retired and living in Ecuador and although the work part doesn’t apply to my life anymore, everything you say is 100% true. Language, expat bubbles, assimilation, difficulty, the romantic vs. the reality. I love being rooted where I am now but the first three months were incredibly trying psychologically and emotionally. It never gets “easy” like our home country but we adjust and change. It changes your entire life, outlook, and future. That’s the tremendous reward. Thank you for articulating this so well.
Yes, please, would like a video on why we should move abroad! We're retiring to Turin, in a couple of years and would love your perspective...Cheers!
Thanks so much for the feedback!
Much appreciated:)
Regarding Turin specifically I’d have to take to think a little bit. But I’m curious what attracts you to that city specifically
@@RafaelDiFuria We like the weather (love cold weather), proximity to other major European cities, the Alps and architecture. Again, though, would like your perspective and thoughts on Turin...
Good choice,, Turin is the most beautiful city in the north
Loved this video! Making the move in July and you always make me stop and really think about different things I may forget.
Sick of Police culture in The US. I’m heading out & sandy beaches all I see!
I have words that for some reason only come out in German, and I have a lot of trouble remembering the English word. It's always fun listening to people who are new to Europe find out stores aren't always open here. When you talk about the "expat bubble" it reminds me of American who live on the military post instead of on the economy. Even after 2 or 3 years they never stop treating the country their living in like a foreign place.
Instead of writing another dissertation, I'll say it like this: most people who say they want to be expats don't really want to be expats. They just want to live out the fantasy of being in their favorite movie. They want the fantasy, not the reality. If you're going to survive, you have to not just be willing to deal with the reality, but actually WANT it. People need to ask themselves if they want to be tourists or the real deal. It's ok to be a permanent tourist as long as you realize that you will never assimilate into the culture being said tourist. If you can't afford to be a permanent tourist, i.e., you're not wealthy enough to ignore having to assimilate into the culture, your life is going to be very, very frustrating and lonely.
Well. Fucking. Said.
You also have to be wealthy to assimilate into the culture. Either way it's going to cost living in Italy, big time.
@@TheRomanPilgriminPerson You don't have to be wealthy at all to assimilate. Learn the language and customs, and live like everyone else lives. It costs just as much as any other western country as an expat, and just like any other nation, you can't just show up and expect everything to be fine. You need to be able to support yourself, and that means living within your means. Obviously no one moves to Italy for a career or great job opportunities, so you must take that into account as well. If you think you have to be wealthy to live in Italy, then you don't really want to assimilate; you want to live like you live in your own country and just change the scenery.
Excellent point!
You are definitely right.
Those who go to another country to live there generally go there for various reasons but essentially for three:
- for economic reasons; he finds a job there or the job he has at home forces him to go elsewhere (abroad) and stays there for convenience. He may consider staying there for a few years, saving up and returning home. Instead, he can start a family and stay. In the first case he will be an expat, in the second, if with his family he integrates into the social world, he will become an immigrant, otherwise he will remain an expat;
- for residential tourism; he will very often remain an expat. He will spend months in the new land and then return to his homeland. He will learn rudiments of the language, of local customs, essentially to operate more easily in everyday life. And so over the years. He will hardly integrate. A classic example is that of the numerous English who bought a house in Spain forming self-referential enclaves separated from the Spanish reality. Not learning even a word of Spanish, without real contact with the land that hosts them and often despising it;
-because he is fascinated by the new country and believes that his life can have a qualitative advantage; if the initial flirtation fades and feels that there are too many difficulties or changes in established habits (often referred to as "culture shock"), he will remain an expat and eventually leave, otherwise he will become an immigrant and over time may apply for citizenship (with all the burdens and benefits it might have).
I like non-return policy, that can eliminate consumerism, which is a huge problem in America. People here dont value tome and money
Lots of good, practical info. I'm still moving. :>)) I've lived in NYC so this does not seem so foreign to me but I still love NYC so... I always smiled with Europeans said they had 'seen' the US because they had visited NYC. Nope. Until you spent time in the Midwest or South you don't know. Great video. TY
I think I’m going to rent an Airbnb for the first three months in Italy. That will help me ease into everything, look for a place….. I don’t want expat bubble but would be nice to meet one or two expats to help …
We definitely got a great deal by giving you Italian citizenship.
A western expat reasons not to: 1 No pension contributions, 2 sooner or later you will become homesick, isolated, lonely because you'll miss, 3 miss family and home, 4 miss your language. 5 bureaucracy, 6 some countries do not give you right to own a home with residence, 7 if you have children born abroad their home nationality can be compromised, 8 children documentations will require double attestations, one from home country once again from expat country 9 you will eventually get tired of their different system, 10 you will always be a foreigner and it will never be your real home
I love the reality videos like this but also the "why you should move to Italy" videos. :)
Yes, would like to hear more about “why you should move abroad”!
Thanks for letting me know :) Until that episode comes out here’s a video on why you should move to a Italy in case you haven’t seen it
th-cam.com/video/jSHTIimISYE/w-d-xo.html
Consider a video detailing the expat community. Are they typically easy to find in Italy? Welcoming? Do expats typically stay in one place or move away? I know you are not pro expat but I would like to hear more.
Expat is a fancy word for Immigrant that Americans dont like being called lol
@@offlineraidedActually That’s not true. Look up the difference between both. They relate to the intentions of work and citizenship.
Interesting topic. I think every new country or way of life gives us something new to discover. HOWEVER, that new county or way of life will also take something comfortable away. What was difficult in your native country can become very easy in Italy. Things that are difficult to accomplish in Italy, can be very easy in another country, etc. Moving abroad in the end , is not romantic. It takes lots of effort and yes, you had better know the language before you arrive. It also pays to have money in the bank, because finding work in a new country is not so easy.
Even in America, the squeaky wheel gets the grease. This is why so many customers act out, though not all.
The puff up your chest place = Italy (at the post office, bank etc...)
I don't like this about Italy... I love the fact that you don't have to do that in Japan
And women don't dare do this in Italy. If women try acting like men in Italy, they will get threatened and slapped down.
Wo, what happened with the italian lawyer show with details about moving there and retiring to paradise affordably...thanks for sharing your experiences...here things have changed and is take it or leave it...Spain is an option too..is understable about language barrier seriously in the US immigrants get paid less and don't even pay the language....ordeals are harsh not paying for work is unacceptable
It sounds scary specially for seniors, this game changing isn't good, where in the world do you live, this happens here too, there's drastic poverty at points of life, everyone trampling over the next..most definitely keeping things is becoming the thing but as you get older things become more acceptable. Yes the siesta time is their thing. We are seing appointments here at the US too. You must visit the market and pack food in your back pack. The question is, would you have stability in living, health insurance which is a gamble at the states..if this is also a case my God...loneliness can happen
Besides Aldi and Lidl, when I was in California Food 4 Less also did not have people to bag the groceries and supposedly that was how you saved money but it didn't seem like it was that much cheaper really. Then again when I worked at a grocery later on that actually had baggers, the baggers actually made chump change anyway. So, maybe that really is all you save by not having those guys.
Love the background 👍🏻please make another video “Why we should move...”. Thanks 🤙🏻
In Italy you have to make an appointment for everything because the Italian banks have cut jobs and there are no more employees!
Do they have online banking in Italy?
yes you can have it.. you can choose between a traditional or online bank account, it's up to you
I just watched your 2 latest videos and I totally get what you are saying. I moved to Bari 3 months ago because both my parents and ancestors are from Bari. I have watched ALL of your videos and the ones you do with Marco for 2 years before coming here and I can agree 90% with everything you say in both videos even though my circumstances are different from yours. I am a 67 year old American woman, retired. Living a dream of Jure Sanguinis and doing it alone. Everything from the Leases to the language barrier are difficult. Best of luck to you on your upcoming move. I've really enjoyed your work! Thank You!
That’s awesome. I’m looking to do the same thing. I lived in Italy in my late 20’s and can’t wait to retire there soon. My dad was stationed in Bari during WWII and befriended a six year old girl named Antoinette. I still have her photo. I know that many people in Italy are named some version of Antoinette or Anthony so wouldn’t be able to find her! 😁
I would love to hear more about why you should move abroad.
Sorry man it seems you are some one who makes the move and think later. It took you more than a decade to realize you have made a mistake. Here is a Friendly unsolicited good faith advice. When you came back to US you will regret it again so don’t destroy all bridges behind you because
Yeah well Locals may Not want to show a newcomer around or help out. My experience is that most to all do Not want to take the time to help.
Can you get a passport if you have a felony?
You may want to consult the website of the authority responsible for issuing passports for people of your nationality
Your voice is...
Get to the point!