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In a fight Tobey would win because he would put some dirt in their eyes.
Haha bro that's funny that's and so true 😅
Nah, that’s only when his Bully Maguire persona is in control
🤣🤣🤣🤣
factttttsssss
What if there’s no dirt in the area?
The way tobeys Spider-Man tried stopping the train with his legs was insane
Fr, that should have hurt him a bit, but he recovered super fast
@@afrolintln7677 he has self heal
@@zoxyy.1x ik but it's still impressive considering how much force was applied to them, it was literally breaking the wood, he legs endured all of that and afterwards he just massaged his leg for like 3 seconds and was fine, that's pretty impressive for Spiderman it seems to me at least lol
@@afrolintln7677 I'd say the most impressive is when he took goblins bomb to the face with no long lasting scars unlike harry
@@zoxyy.1x he doesn’t have a healing factor and it did hurt he just doesn’t get hurt easily like a normal human.
I just like how Andrew plays spider man. He truly fights like a spider. The sewer scene when he created the web to sense Dr. Connor is amazing
agreed. especially in that scene at the school where he wraps the lizard in webbing. the way he crawls around him is so spider like
@@speedwagon9754finally someone noticed that
Yeah. He's the most comic accurate spiderman out of them all. Specially on TAS 2. They really showcase his spider sense ability and hoe he outwit his opponent. He's the most calculated Spidey among them. And I like how he crawl specially when he fights, the special effects team really embedded on how the Spider really moves.
@@RhenZilla fr. Like people just be hating on that movie
Yeah Andrew os the best
You cant beat Bully Maguire
He'll put some dirt in there eyes🤣
See ya chump
Maguire is the best spiderman
@@yxungillz1243 "WHAT THE HELL!"
He a goat 🐐
Bully maguire is the strongest and you can't convince me otherwise
Yes, He Literally Defeated Thanos With Stones By Just Dancing
Spoderman stronger, like the time he Bitch slapped The presence
@@chudrocks8485 now who's this spoderman? sounds like a new guy in the gods neighborhood
🧢
@@IsmailKhan-vc1zf you don’t know spodermen? what type of cave u been livin bru?
Tobey’s strongest feat is actually holding a building that was pulled by the mini sun. That was after his throat was crushed by Dock ock’s arms.
and got hammer fisted by sandman and its like nothing happened when goblin jr came hahahahah
That's not a full building lol it was a wall it wasn't close to his train scene
@@aroundtheclock1587 but that wall was being pulled in by a mini sun. You can see in the scene prior that the mini sun was pulling cars down the street from blocks away. The force he was withstanding that close to the sun is insane.
@@keganjensen2605plus MJ was actually being pulled by the mini sun and yet spidey was able to withstand her from not getting pulled in... if Tobeys spidey was that STRONG early on then imagine how strong he is in NWH but that's not to mention how strong Andrew and Toms spidey became in NWH
@@aroundtheclock1587 I'm pretty sure it's superior .
Tobey took the most damage and got knocked down to the floor, but he KEPT coming back. True Spider-Man.
Boing boing boing
Well Tom Holland's Spiderman was hit by a speeding train
@@kwakhopani1798 and comes back
Toby stopped a train
@Jay Rodriguez Tom Holland's saved a boat and lifted a building off him, the strongest is tom Holland I believe most liked/most popular is Toby miguires
I’m gonna go with the Spider-Man who uses fist for the majority of his fights.
tobey all the way
@@gesienalubbe6404 definitely
The guy never mentioned the fact that tobeys spidey held onto those webs for like a straight minute after probably having bruises on his body from his fight with doc ock and held onto them until the train completely stopped... toms spidey was saved by iron man (AGAIN)
@@scott.truesdale and I feel like you can't just judge these things by the weight of the item. You'd have to take into account exactly way things are being lifted or stopped. The ferrie isn't dangling in the air, so to count all its weight like he does doesn't make sense to me lol
@@erykpoyton2799 It’s literally because he’s keeping the ferry afloat from sinking, technically in this situation it is floating because if he were to let go it would immediately sink into the water. Also, they aren’t saying that Tom did it by himself, yes he did get help from Tony but he still held it together temporarily and that’s a massive display of strength. I still think Tobey would win just from experience alone but Tom is super strong too.
The thing is that andrew's spiderman didnt had a scene to show off his strength unlike tobey and tom. He fought electro, so we got to see his speed dodging lighting, im sure if tobey was fighting electro, he would too move at the same speed, same goes for tom. All are equal in my opinion, its just that they were all in different situations to show off different skills. They are all spiderman in the end.
Didnt he pick up a police car
@@ohyeayeahello3501 yeah but it wasnt his full strength cuz he lifted it casually.
Electro and his lightning aren’t as fast as actual lightning tho but he is the fastest
@@anonymoususer7716 he is lighting. I dont see how he is not as fast.
@@aubhrochakravorty3331 he isn’t, around 150,000 feet per second which is no where near as fast as normal lightning, but he is the fastest without a shadow of doubt
Tobeys spiderman had already been in a fight with doc Oc before stopping the train and was already exhausted but he also had just regained his powers again after temporarily loosing them. So Tobeys spiderman was by no means at the peak of his strength when stopping that train.
He also got hit by a train too
@@jaycole4390 Same could be said for Tom's Spider-Man well except that he got hit by a bullet train which is way worse
@@Skyzenmusic He got hit by a bullet train right before holding the boat together?
@@travisk9897 no those instances were in two different movies
@@djnoved1 Yeah I know lol. I was asking him the question to invalidate his argument.
Someone else said Tobey was in a fight and got hit by a train before trying to stop it so we can't assume that was the limit of his strength but someone then said that Tom was hit by a bullet train too so I was asking them if that happened right before he was holding the boat together because otherwise it means nothing
Toby: stongest
Garfield: most agile
Holland: smartest
Morales: most diverse
No toby weakest
I could agree with this, especially that Andrew Garfield is the most agile. But idk, I can’t really say Tom’s is the smartest, I think he’s just given more resources to display it. But all in all I can agree with this.
Finally someone that agrees with me about Andrew's.
For some reason no one ever mentions his feats when he fought electro for the first time and saved pedestrians, plus he has the best swinging
Tobey is the smartest dummy Andrew just don’t give a fuck and Tom just a nerdy kid
Andrew be like :can't touch this
Tobey definitely has to be the strongest out of them no way home proved it too by the way
how
@@mashedtomatoes1180 Tobey stopping Tom
@@andRzzZ06 in Toms defense the positioning of that little struggle did give Tobey the upper hand but yeah i definitely get what your saying
Not close Tobey was using his whole body to stop him and Tom only had his arms plus Tom was injured with broken ribs and a gunshot on his shoulder
@@mashedtomatoes1180 tom in the position that helped by gravity and tobey position were resist gravity
Tobey may also be the most durable. In the extended cut he gets hit by a train and swings right back into action seconds later.
Tom got hit by a bullet train though
@@Antlersz and got knocked out
@@idontwant2beasoldiermama241 yeah which travels faster than a NYC trains which they go 80 miles per hour which is still impressive for Tobey to jump back in the fight
Andrew also got hit by a speeding cop car
@@joshuaignacius9765
He also got shot in the leg by a random cop and he seemed like he was heavily injured by it tho
for some reason, no one ever talks about how Tobey's Spider-Man was able to tank multiple hits by a giant sand monster, while being choked by venom. nevermind being hit by a train, (which is also insane), he got pounded by a giant sand fist. also, he took a explosion to the face by green goblin and had no marks lol. Tobey is the strongest, and most durable. but don't get me wrong, I love all the Spiderman lol~ I literally can't complain about any of them, they are all so cute and lovely~
Not only that but almost all debates about the 3 live action spidermen leave out all the damage they took in their movies and keep using the same feats over and over kinda getting stale
Tom got hit by a faster train took hits from thanos who was choking him.
@@kurt6708 I know tom has incredible feats as well it's just the writers alway's power him down in his movies because of plot
@@kurt6708 yeah him getting hit by that train was pretty impressive. however that was kinda his limit tbh. also, him getting hit by Thanos, you're forgetting he was wearing an actual suit of armour, and plus everything Thanos hit him, he kinda just stayed down for a bit so.. the only good point you made was the train hitting Tom. This still doesn't convince me he's stronger. Yes the train was faster than the one that hit Tobey but, ITS STILL A TRAIN. Tobey got hit and didn't even have a scratch or bled, he just went right back into the fight lol~ either way tho I still love all of them. I can't wait for the movie, did you see the new trailer? if not, I'm about to spoil something so stop reading just in case you don't wanna be spoiled. anywho, in the trailer, you actually see Tom trying to catch a pumpkin bomb that's literally about to explode right in his naked face. It reminded me of the first Spider-Man where Tobey literally tanked a pumpkin bomb explosion to his face too. so I'm excited to see that happen lol I don't know~ I'm pretty sure Tom will be okay, cuz even tho I believe Tobey is more durable, I wouldn't mind saying he's like, almost right below him in durability. heck maybe in this new movie, we'll see him tank more stuff. that would convince me lol~
@@arisen8721 lol yeah (^～^;)ゞ I see the same stuff too~ I can't wait for this new movie! it's gonna be too awesome lol! who are you most excited to see out of the three Spiderman?
This calculation is funny... How could you rate a falling ferry higher than a train at full speed
You’re right, multiply the mass of the train with passengers in it by the maximum speed, what is the momentum.
Sam Raimi’s Spider-Man took the most punches
And that equals strength how?
@@wet0wl He wasn’t saying it equals strength, did he? Tobey’s durability is actually too much for Tom to put him down, whereas Tom’s durability isn’t high enough to withstand too much punches from Tobey who has much better striking (not lifting), hell Andrew would see both of em in slow motion.
@@or_no. Tom was hit by a bullet train and was well a few hours later. He also fell quite a few stories at the end of FFH
@@or_no. Tom was shot by bullets and was ok. He took hits from thanos, the winter soldier, and cole obisidian.
@@megaavonaco9954 He got slammed by Thanos and didn’t even look like Thanos was trying at all with him, he was just annoyed, Tobey has taken a punches from a sandman taller than a building, getting thrown to cars, walls and even buildings and green goblin threw a goblin bomb at a group of people in the first movie and they disintegrated but when goblin threw it on Peter right on his face, he lived
*When I started the video all I could think of was the Train Scene. To this day, that scene still stands as arguably one of the greatest moments in Cinema History.*
I'll EXCELSIOR! to that:)
I was thinking about the train scene at first then thought of the boat scene in homecoming
Facts
Yeah... Let's not put comic book movies in "all time cinema history" please.
Comic book movies are fun and entertaining, but they aren't true cinema at their cores. When 90% of your movie is done in a studio with green screens... That's not really cinema... Is it? Not to mention the carbon copy formula that almost every comic book movie follows in terms of story beats.
@@jayvardy that's true of movies now, but back in 2000 what was it 4? When Spiderman 2 came out, that was unheard of for an average non-superman hero.
My thoughts are tobey is the strongest and most durable physically. Andrew is the most agile and acrobatic. And Tom is the most tech savvy and possibly the smartest when he reaches their age
Tom is the strongest but tobey is the best
@@tennisball757 he isn't, some science guys used math to calculate which is stronger, tom for sure is the most tough, he was hit bit a bullet train, but tobey is the strongest
@@ninjacortadordecebola1215 Tom would beat tobey in a fight
@@ninjacortadordecebola1215 did he hold the ferry just after he got hit by train
@@ninjacortadordecebola1215 nah but he held a ferry together which is a better feat even if it was just for a second
TOBEY : the strongest and most experienced
ANDREW: most agile with superior spider senses
TOM : smartest and most potential
He has the most potential but he's not that smart like giving away the strongest tech on earth to a guy you just met tomorrow was smart
Tom did give away tony glasses to a stranger just to be with mj
@@syken8201 daaamn you got me there lmao
But he is pretty tech savvy
@@nasbofficial7796 what happens in the end he gets the glass back he doesn't destroys it and he gets the girl too i think destroying Edith would have been a really good twist. (spoilers ahead for falcon n the winter soldier) either way who wants to see spiderman become iron man like
falcon i really hated that falcon became captain not because hes black obviously,
Cause he's falcon i dont like how represented The name Captain America
As some sort of president changed throughout years i just know that steve rogers is the captain of America and falcon is falcon we just like it that way, biggest thing i like about spiderman that he is always being himself. And also that first cap in falcon and the winter soldier is really fun to watch coz of his anger and rages it would have been fun to see him become a villain or an anti hero but not cap for sure. I think im done
@@syken8201 That's not about smartness that's about him being gullible and he'll learn from that....
which uncle ben would win in a fight
Unfortunately none
Mcu ben would win;)
Im trolling:)
Well considering that Ben in the MCU would most likely be younger based on May’s age so him I guess.
Og raimis uncle Ben bro With great power comes great responsibility remember that Bully Maguire Remember that
Martin sheens uncle Ben
Strength: Toby
Speed: Andrew ( Lightning Scene )
Spidey Sense: Andrew ( Dodges Lightning )
Most Popular: Tom
Most Underrated: Andrew
OG: Toby
This should have a shit tone of thumbs up 👍🏾
I don't think tom is the most popular.
@@Xlen-omega He is newer so more people would know the techier and more modern Spider-Man.
Tom gets Spider-Sense
Tobey = Physically brute, relays on Physical Strength (Stops a train), Swings elegantly, extremely good spider-sense (especially the one where his powers came back to save MJ from a car.)
Andrew= The most agile, aggressive like swinging, Uses his webs more often in fights, and especially the spider-sense he relays on it a-lot (all spidermen can do the same.)
Tom = Has the potential to be a good spider-man once he learns that he can be his own without starks help.
Literally beat vulture in sweatpants
he started to learn that when his suit was taken by tony on his first solo film. he beat vulture with a hoodie and his web shooter.
And vulture was just an old dude in a wing suit. Not some electricity spewing mad man, or an enhanced psychopath or venom or even an 8ft+ reptile monster. Tom's got lot to learn and that is his journey.
He did more than beat he stopped the weapons on a avengers plane with just sweatpants
@@mareyartemis3419 sweatpants = Tobey and Andrew's suit. You're talking as if he didn't use his web shooters or help from "the guy in the chair". So far MCU's iteration of Spider-Man hasn't done greater feat than Tasm or Raimi Spider-Man. It's his journey. He's only gonna face off more menacing villains in nwh.
Let me explain
1. Tom webbed up the entire ferry. So it wasn't entirely him holding it. U can see as soon as the webs break iron man arrives.
2. This one is a bit complicated. See, if u look closely Tom was not holding a hanging ferry. It's ridiculous to say he was holding so much weight. If u have read physics u would know that a force have 2 components horizontal and vertical. If u consider the passegers, cargo and vehicles in it, they all were contributing to the vertical component of the force, but Tom was stoping it in horizontal direction. The horizontal force is very less.
Despite of all this, even with the help of his webs he wasn't able to hold it longer than 10 secs. Also he was not holding it. It was still separting.
He was even finding it hard to lift some pieces of roof in the same movie
Tom definitely could hold the ferry longer but the web says otherwise
@@murshooo69 Thing is that was just webs and the AI telling him all the best points to shoot though , not his physical strength. When those several webs break and he just uses his own strength with two webs , the ship is still shown to be falling apart till Iron man arrives . At best Tom can be assumed to have slowed it down a bit since he was trying , but the halves didn't stop moving away let alone come closer by his strength .
Yeah I was coming to say this in a similar vein. Folks blatantly misrepresent things in fake of the MCU all the time though
Also, Toby's train scene is physically logical while Tom's boat scene is entirely movie magic.
A boat in that state isn't a boat. It won't float. The entire thing will sink within seconds, with or without spiderman holding it. Just watch clips of how battleships sank after a topedo exploded underneath it and you'll see. The ship is lifted off the water and break in half after landing back. It then sinks within seconds.
@@humanman9920it would still take ridiculous amounts of strength to even slow down the ferry. Even if he didn't 100 percent hold the ferry together with only his strength, this feat is still many times stronger than anything Tobey Maguire's spiderman has ever done.
The airport scene can’t be used to gauge Holland. It was a “friendly” fight. Tony later said “if cap wanted to lay you out he would have”
Was thinking this too
It wasn't a serious fight, Spiderman always pulls his punches. Everyone there had some kind of history. Except for black panther(like bitch who the fuck are you).
Didn't think of this. So true.
Lol no Spiderman would have whooped Cap's ass.
Spiderman is stronger than cap. Cap has fighting techniques that holland still doesnt have, but as far as strength goes, holland or Spiderman over class caps
Toby: seems to rely so much to his strength so he may probably be the strongest.
Andrew: in my opinion he's probably one of the smartest spiderman, in a fight he uses his abilities so much and makes use of them very well.
Tom: he seems to be the most strategic unlike Andrew's who uses his wit against technological stuff like what they fight most of the time Tom seems to be a mix of both wit and brut, an example is when restraining ant-man tying his legs is both use of strength and wit. if Toby was against that he would throw planes at him and if andrew was there he would probably thinker with his suit.
Lol, throw planes.
i dont think tom has ever fought anyone fist to fist or thrown a punch but ive only seen homecoming and avengers movies. toby is actually really smart. realized he could take down sandman w water, figured out the symbiotes weakness making a makeshift bell, stopped harry with a quick trap, escaped doc ocks grasp in the bank scene by webbing two tables, messed with goblins glider, was able to catch both mj and the kids when he was given an ultimatum just some stuff i remember
@@ToMAhawKSlIp but andrew excels in split decision making though. In tasm2 that scene in times square where he as only one functioning webshooter and inly milliseconds to decide. He came up with a way to save everyone using only his iq and his wits. And im not disagreeing with you. Tobey is definitely smart, hell every spiderman is smart in their own way but i feel like andrew has a slight edge. Would you agree?
@@Wafrie01 I agree too, Andrew would defeat both of them in a fight because he was lowkey untouchable whenever he fought. he movements captured the full essence of spider-man in motion, the way he used his webs and surrounding, the way he literally had fun while fighting, no other spider-man did it better. And its not even fair to judge andrew in his strength because we didnt see a situation where andrew had to use his strength. It was always his speed and reflexes which were put to the test. I mean the guy dodged electricity by guessing where it would be fired, he pretty much is the fastest and best tactician by a mile
Toby is pretty agile too. Like the time he was fighting Ock and he passed through a tiny hole.
Stopping that train was definitely a more impressive feat....the mass X acceleration of the train required far more force....yes that boat MAY have weighed more, but he wasn't supporting the entire weight of it.
But he held it together, it would have ripped him in half had he not been able to hold it.
@@Zzz-dt2dl and the train wouldn't?
@@miletello1 just watch film theories video on the strongest spider man
The train isn't Tobey's strongest feat. It was him holding a wall that was pulled by a sun which was also pulling cars for the middle of the city for 2 minutes and 28 seconds. And the building was in the middle of the sea, this shows how far away it was.
@@WhiggaOwner42 that scene is a mess I must admit I watched it the other day and it was laughable, the scene just went back on itself, the sun was so powerful it was ripping metal off the dock moving cars from the street and nearly pulling mj into it but by Pete moving her back a couple of feet she can just stand there not phased by it 🤣 like I don’t know, it’s a huge strength feat a old rusty metal docking wall pulled by a made sun which has very flawed gravitational field strength that seems to change every few seconds of the scenes. The train is tobeys best pure strength feat tho in my opinion. a train moving 80mph being so long and so heavy full of people, that’s crazy
Tobey is the strongest in strength like snapping venom webbing and fucking ripping it apart, Garfield is the fastest and the smartest by the time square scene and turning a watch into a web shooter, Tom relies too much on tech and yeah without stark tech he is wayyy too weak
People really forgot that while Tobey getting punches, Andrew took electricity enough to power a whole damn city
They are just fanboys. Each spider-man had faced different situations to show their strengths so it is not relevant to compare them as they had different fight sequences
Thats durablity mister
That’s not strength that’s durability
@@kgibbs5334 exactly
Do remember it’s endurance in that situation and his suit is also electric proof
Tom's Spidey turned a plane wing which is around 90,000 LBs, making him stronger then Tobey's strongest feet, which is stopping an 80,000 LB train. Making Tom's Spidey the strongest on screen Spider-Man. Sorry, but feats are feats.
Tobey
Stopped the train
Lifted a huge wall while under the effects of a miniature suns gravity
Beat doc ock
Saved Gwen and MJ
Beat Osborns
Tanked giant sand man hammer fist
Defeated sandman and venom
All of this on his own.
(Your airplane feat is invalid guiding something yo the ground and straight up stopping momentum and speed are too different things)
Even then lifting that wall to save MJ is miles above that
Open your eyes.
Andrew has got to be my favorite Spider-Man hands down. He may have been a darker less eccentric Peter Parker, but he’s got the best suit and the coolest fight scenes. I also like that he has more of a darker less eccentric side to him. It really shows how hard it can be to be a hero
Even my favorite Spiderman is Andrew Garfield.
Best fight scenes? Lol.
Wtf is this comment LOL. Its about the strongest not the coolest looking 🤣🤣
Gonna cry?
Not to mention the best web slinging scenes
Sigh the Tobeys bias here. By FEATS, Tom's spidey is the strongest. Especially after FFH movie.
You can’t defeat bully maguire
Also toms spider man may have held a ship together but tobey stopped a train so I mean
😤
Tobey:
Defeats:
Goblin
Goblin Jr.
Otto
Sandman
Venom
Strength endurance, grit:
-Held up a huge piece of debris while under the effects of gravity via mini sun
-Held trolly full people while saving MJ
-Tore venom from himself
-Tore venom from Eddie
-stopped a FULL FORCE FULLY LOADED train ON his own, He actually stopped it.
-Fell multiple stories while his powers were fading.
-Tanked multiple hits from a huge funding sandman no armor, no tech.
All while dealing with devastating blows psychologically that life was dealing him.
All this on his own.
You are the fan boy you probably did even watch all the movies just the one with Tom.
Tom:
He as fought two absolute jokes in the marvel universe. Vulture and Mysterio
And repeatedly gets saved by some else (Iron daddy)
Just for fun:
-Fought green goblin and got absolutely bodied
-fought otto and was saved by Iron daddy once again
-while he was blud raged, goblin literally was laughing in his face. Like c'mon bro.
(In Tobey's first movie he fought goblin seriously and gobbie basically cried to buy himself time.)
P.s Tobey was still in high-school at the time.
@@Romello.a true true
Andrew Garfield's ability to catch the vehicle falling from the bridge would require more than 5000 LBS of force to counter it's fall. Because he stops the fall almost instantly when his webbing tenses, he has to counter the force of the vehicle's mass moving downward at the earth gravity's free-fall acceleration rate. I did a rough calc and for the vehicle would reach a Velocity of 16.402 m/s after falling about 45ft (estimate based on nothing but the clip). This equals out to about 37200 Newtons or 8362 lbs of force for a 5000 lb object. Still not the train by far but don't low ball my boy Andrew
Tobey > Andrew > normal people > Tom
@@PunxTV123 I agree
@@PunxTV123 Tom literally beat falcon and the winter soldier. And he took bullets multiple times in FFH. These jokes are starting to become lame. Downplaying him when his character arc is meant to be different and not finished yet.
@@megaavonaco9954 True
Remember though toms spider man got shot with the night monkey suit with a bullet proof vest 😂 yeah he got hit by a train but did he get hit by sandmans fist in his giant sand form full force ? Multiple times repeatedly ? Remember to Andrews spider man got clawed in the chest by the lizard and went crying to Gwen 😭
Actually tom's spiderman is just his suit. Dont compare him with Tobey the greatest.
@Mighty to the Max *two concrete slabs and a ventilation set
@Mighty to the Max bro grow up
Yes because his suit held the ferry together 😀 and not to mention he wasn't even wearing the Iron-man suit when he lifted a whole entire collapsed building off of him from a laying position... Literally the first movie proved that he wasn't just the suit how are you guys still saying this 🤦♂️🤦♂️
Thank you! Don’t disrespect the GOAT!
Tom is the strongest
Tobey Maguire to me is stronger than those other two because for one, he showed his full potential in Spiderman 2 and 3 and he has way more impressive Feats that he uses to fight the villains.
tobey is the goat to me, but just outta pure love from watching him as a kid. his full potential in spiderman 2 was pretty amazing, but in comparison to tom that would mean tom is going to be way stronger by the time he hits like 18. and in 3 the only time he surpassed his own previous strength was when he had the black suit, which is just venom and peter together so of course he’s super strong.
Hell no def not. Andrew was by far the best and strongest fighter.
How are you saying toby is the strongest when you literally watched a video on whos stronger solved mathematically 🤣🤣how are you denying maths
@@riadhulhamim2033 everyone has their math which one you will believes?
@@samuelbrown4764 i think he was the most strategic fighter
These calculations are wrong. You're telling me that a whole train traveling at full speed is only applying 50% more force than a bus that tipped over? Hell no. Also Tom didn't lift the fairy off the ground he just held the two halfs from falling over. He wouldn't be taking on it's full weight. Also he didn't succeed. Ironman had to come save him as he couldn't hold it on his own. Not to mention the other webs were taking weight off of him while the additional webs weren't taking any weight off Tobey. There's just a lot of factors here that aren't taken into consideration at all. Not saying Tom isn't stronger. He might be but these points don't prove he is.
Exactly what I'm thinking.
Exactly. This video is heavily biased against Tobey. FULLY Stopping a moving train is much much more difficult than holding a ferry separating in water for a few seconds.
And since the ferry was in water, it was separating with much less force since the water was resisting the separation of the ferry. They did not even take water resistance into account.
And finally, Tom didn't even succeed at it, Ironman saved him. Its like a human pushing a wall for 20 seconds, and not moving it, and then calling it impressive since it requires a lot of force from a human to push away a wall.
Yup the "fairy feat" is so bullshit on so many levels
Every masterpiece has it's, cheap copy
Facts!
This right here. I'm legitimately surprised a lot more people did not bring these factors up.
I understand this youtube clip is supposed to just be fun and entertaining but it pisses me off that they try to explain the physics behind it, not even apply some of the most important factors, then try to explain it in a way where it seems factual.
Andrew Garfield is the strongest without any doubt. He is the quickest and most agile out of the spideys in my opinion.
Uh he is the second fastest but in terms of ap and durability he is fodder
@@Vader255 facts. mans got sliced up n beat to shit by the lizard, which was nice to see bc i like the gritty but come on. maguire got sliced up by venom, destroyed by sandman, n then got right back in it when his opportunity came w harry. andrew prolly woulda had to recuperate, and tom is honestly a solid tank so i think he coulda broke away from that venom, like he’s the most bio human out of them to me with his physical ability, besides maybe maguire. although, he does get minimal damages quite often.
Andrew's scene where he saves the pedestrians from Electro was insane, so imma have to say he's the quickest or he has the best spider sense
@@WokeupfeelingCrimson the fact that you even thought about it this much is actually sad. when will yall realize that spider man is just spider man like why does it matter whos physical feats. were more impressive. its literally just writing. all three spider men are incredibly good. its the people that downgrade one or the other who make it so sad. "andrew prolly woulda had to recuperate" lmfao like how do we know that, writers coulda just had the mf get super serious and have a crazy power up then smack everybody.
@@dhvy i’m sorry that i have a good memory and can remember scenes, my bad. also, no it is completely reasonable to assume based off of their strength and what we’ve seen, that andrew’s spiderman would not be able to tank like the others. yes writing plays a part, but that has nothing to do with me discussing what i’ve seen. also, what’s sad is that you’re this upset over someone’s opinion. some of us enjoy debates, and then others whine about it and insert theirselves into it for no reason.
I'd say Tobey is all 3. His fight with doc shows how agile he was. From being thrown and fitting throw iron grid and dodging the train with the matrix back lean. All of the above. Tobey is the best
His villans weak compared to the other two so no not tobey it's a tie between andrew and tom
Andrew Garfield literally dodged electricity. Aka speed of light
Tom fought thanos. End of discussion if that dont convince you idk what will tbh
@@JorgeFuckingHernandez lol , electricity is not the same as that of light
@@riadhulhamim2033 you mean iron boy jr fought thanos. He would've been dead if iron man didn't send his iron suit to boy wonder
You forgot to mention how much of a beating Tobey can take.
My point exactly
Strongest, not the most resistant
That too
I mean Tom too. He got hit by a bullet train and was well a few hours later
good point
Best Spiderman for me is Andrew's in comes of fight scenes. He's like Jackie Chan, uses all things around him and it's just fun to watch him moving like a real spider
Can agree, he is smart and uses his surroundings to his advantage unlike the others, he also can strategize your weakest points in battle unlike the others, maybe Tom has the tech to do that but that's Tony Stark's tech not Tom.
Also I think Andrew is the most intelligent among them, also he can withstand whole power electricity to light up the New York city. Most durable and quick too
Tom’s Spidey got hit by a bullet train and came out with just some bruises and a limp. And that Peter still didn't have spider senses, that's why he got hit. By feats, by the end of the movie, he’s the strongest.
Tom: gets hit by a train and gets KTFO.
Tobey: Gets hit by a train whilst on another moving train, double momentum, then comes swinging back like nothing even happened.
MCU stans: Yeah Tom seems more tough.
Lol, that’s also ignoring Tobey’s other durability feats which would shit on every standalone Tom feat.
@@or_no. Tom was hit by a bullet train which weighs 715 tons and travels at a speed of 320km/h. The force exerted on Tom would be 5 649 000 000 N (5.6 GN) if the collision distance was 0.5 m and the impact duration was 0.1 sec.
Tobey was hit by a New York City train which weighs 55 tons (when full) and travels at a speed of 90km/h, so 180km/h since the trains were moving towards each other. The force exerted on Tobey would be 137 000 000 N (137 MN) if the collision distance was 0.5 m and the impact duration was 0.1 sec.
Conclusion: Tom was hit by a force 17 times greater than what Tobey was hit by. (Probably even more 17x since the impact duration and collision distance would have been shorter for Tom since the train who hit Tom were moving almost twice as fast as the train who hit Tobey)
@@getburked3739
Venom?!?
Giant Sandman slamming his fist on Tobey repeatedly?@?
Tanking am explosion to the face?!??
Getting shanked through the kidney?!?!?
Falling multiple stories when his powers where gone?!?!
Tobey has the best stats bro just admit it
In the last scene, Tom with rage picked up goblins glider and tried to stab him with it and here comes Tobey swooped in out of nowhere and stopped Tom while desperately still trying to stab goblin with all of his strength and rage but still couldn't budge Tobey's hold.
End of discussion.
This exactly this
And Toms suit was specifically designed not only for extra protection, new technological features to give him an edge in battle, but also to increase his physical strength in combat. Tobey wasn’t even shaken up by holding him back.
Did you forgot that Tom got a full beat down in Happy's appartament and he also took good hits in the final battle, then Tobey managed to stop him due to the position and the look he gave him, he conviced Tom not to do it Tom is stronger
There are some points you missed:
1. MCU peter was injured and had his ribs broken.
2. Peter 2 had better position as he could use both his back, leg and hand muscles.
3. Peter 1 still managed to lower Peter 2 a bit.
I think it's safe to say both Peter 1 and Peter 2 are on same strength level, or maybe Peter 1 is even slightly stronger.
@@Merabharatmahaan2024 Facts
The thing with Andrew is u don’t really know how strong thag dude is at his max. He’s physicall strenght just hasn’t been pushed to the limit. Anytime he did have to do something physical, he didn’t really struggle and at all. U might say Andrew is weak cuz he knly stopped a bus in his movies but did he struggle to do that? No.
They all have their own strengths and strategies its going to be freaking awesome 👌
Tom has no strategy until far from home and is still lame Toby for the win 😎
@@thebluemorpho2962 he gonna put some dirt on everyone's eye
@@thebluemorpho2962 u Tobey fans just don’t like a Spider-Man that’s better. Tobeys the worst IMO Tom Holland just represents spider to well. A shy awkward teenager . He doesn’t look 30 aswell.
@@kurt6708 What does any of what you said have to do with whose the better fighter?
He isn't deadlifting the fairy though, or holding a suspended fairy from above, he's holding the walls from tipping over like dominoes. Still insanely impressive, but need to take into account the fact that they are semi upright halves that he is trying to keep upright. The water does probably make it more difficult I'm guessing since the boat halves will roll easier.
This. These calculations were just wrong. I don't blame the author since it's just a short entertainment video but don't be using physics as if you're taking into account all of the factors and trying to pass it off as scientific fact when it isn't even close.
Exactly my thoughts
@@greencupofdeath We also forgot that there are several webs still attached reducing the load on Peter himself by half by every web (assuming the boat is coming apart uniformly).
@@slowfudgeballs9517 Well those webs started to break and tear apart, so their tensile strength is useless.
@@SantosSimeon Doesn't matter, the webs and even Iron Man himself did far more of the work than Peter himself did and Iron Man was the one who ultimately put the ferry back together in the end as well.
Tobey fans are sum else in this comment section istg💀💀
So we gone forget how Tobey lifted that big ass piece of a building to save mj before doc ock died ?
but that was nothing dude. dont you know what he was lifting looked like
@@eapen7297 While that roof was being sucked into the fusion reactor? Thats more than Tom catching bucky's arm
But we just gon forget that Iron Man helped put the ship back together in Tom's biggest showcase of strength.
In Tobey’s second movie, in the final battle with the fusion reactor the reactor was pulling in cars from miles away and pulling buildings apart and Tobey was strong enough to not get pulled by the 11 million tons of force so Tobey is easily the strongest.
Tobey's spiderman is the strongest,
Tom could not have held the ferry without Iron man's help.
Tobey stopped that train moving at full speed without anyone helping him.
in the video it shows that for the majority of the time it was only toma spiderman not including his webs because they had all broke. and he is also very young. but yes iron man had to come and help because of how immense the weight is
@@GmoneyGaming-ep6vl that's exactly why Tobey's spiderman is stronger....
Tom's Spider-Man held the ferry for only a few seconds, for the majority of the time, it was his webs, also his tech did a lot for him.
Comparing it to Tobey's who took a lot of damage, fell off a speeding train and still got up like it was nothing, caught passengers thrown off the train (just a few examples of his durability and reflexes).
There's no way Tom's Spider-Man can be stronger than Tobey's, if we're only talking bout raw physical strength and durability and not tech help
@@blackleg3964 but that’s still a better feat then tobey’s train scene even though it was only a couple seconds it took way more power and energy from Tom
@@GmoneyGaming-ep6vl Not all the webs broke.... Some were still attached. Spiderman is strong enough to compose his mass... The webs were getting constantly pulled, only
@@GmoneyGaming-ep6vl fool 🤣
First off, the buoyancy(the force the water applies as the ferry is drifting sideways)of the water in which the ferry is, secondly the ferry was still seperating slightly and finally the angle the ferry makes with the gravity vector, it's way way less than the actual weight that you're assuming he lifted
Well if you factor and break down the equation of mathematics and laws of gravity and wind speed and trajectoryl lmao. Marvel has made it clear they gave Tom's version a big power upgrade compared to the other version accept it move on
Plus the fact the train is way lighter than the ferry. Train is hollow for the most part and only has heavy base. The ferry was solid steel that was full of passenger's and vehicles
@@overheatedeskim054 That's true but it wasn't really clear if he even made a difference, because it was still seperating and Tony stepped in way to quick for us to know if he actually held it together
@@overheatedeskim054 for getting this kind of speed you need a huge amount of energy. Train's motion energy is fucking crazy. And accepting the fact that train was accelerating all the time means that you need even more energy to stop it.
This is definitely much more impressive than scene with ship which is hold by water, lol
@@overheatedeskim054 the train weighed eay more than the ferry lol, tom didnt even hold the ferry he was losing grip signifying he wasnt strong enough and that hes not ready yet and tony had to step in. Homecoming was LITERALLY a movie about him learning to be spiderman and how to be stronger without the suit, without the suit he lifted the whole building and got out proving hea ready. Tobey was already able to hold together a ferry or lift a building or holding a train. Tobet is the older spiderman and experienced and strongest
7:20 this video is heavily biased against Tobey. FULLY Stopping a moving train is much much more difficult than holding a ferry separating in water for a few seconds.
And since the ferry was in water, it was separating with much less force since the water was resisting the separation of the ferry. They did not even take water resistance into account.
And finally, Tom didn't even succeed at it, Ironman saved him. Its like a human pushing a wall for 20 seconds, and not moving it, and then calling it impressive since it requires a lot of force from a human to push away a wall.
Yes! And did you see how many webs Tom used to try and stop the ferry from falling apart? It only took Tobey 14 webs. Clearly his organic webs are stronger, and he has a theoretically limitless supply?! Plus, it seems like people are overlooking how powerful Sandman can be.
@@mightyninjamartin5837 He’s in his own tier above electro tobey could never take flint down
@@shockvalue5086 Not alone, no. And with Venom there too, forget it.
tobey slowed down the train first, he did not fully stopped it and he also used multiple webs for that and there were also those things at the end of the track that help stopped the train. those few seconds were more impressive because the ferry was heavier than the train and in far from home tom's spidey prevented a bell tower from falling for more than 30 secs
@@MM-ii7ei tobey stopped the train fully. Period. Pu**y Holland just held it for a few seconds and gave up lol. Had to be saved by his Iron papa.
Considering that leading up to stopping the train, Tobey had only very recently regained his powers, been knocked around quite a bit by Doc Ock (whose tentacles SEEM to be stronger than Tobey), was hit by a train going one direction while on a train going in the opposite direction (compounding the amount of force it actually hit him with), fell about 50ft onto tarmac, slid along that tarmac at high speed before pulling himself back onto the train and generally exerted a high amount of energy throughout the fight, I think it's safe to assume that wasn't the full potential of his strength. There were a lot of factors that contributed to him losing consciousness so I don't think it's accurate to suggest that stopping the train used up all of his strength. Not to say that automatically makes him stronger than Holland, although it's also worth mentioning the fact that Tobey can't run out of webbing, which might give him the edge in a fight
I think no way home is big enough proof that in an actual fight Tobey just bitch slaps both Andrew and Tom.
This is such a hard argument because we're talking about the same soul character here, in different universes. That's like comparing chocolate icecream to vanilla icecream to strawberry icecream to see which one tastes better.
One thing I can say though, each Spider-Man we've seen has their own slightly different fighting techniques and strengths. Tobey's Spider-Man seemed to be a great offense fighter. When it came to defense, he got tossed around a bit by his foes at times. Andrew's Spider-Man seemed to be an amazing offense fighter as well. No doubt, he doesn't seem as physically strong as the other Spidermen, but seeing his fights, he was ALWAYS in control of the fight. Even if his foe was stronger, he always knew what he was doing and was able to toss around his foes most of his fights, which is why he won within minutes of fighting them. Tom's Spider-Man seems to be a great defense fighter. He can get knocked but he always finds a way to counter attack his enemies and hurt them. So for me personally, I couldn't say who would actually win in a fight. The Spider-Man character is amazing and powerful in all universes lmao
I agree
True
great statement
I loved your take. I agree in principle to all you said. I'd add that both for Andrew and Tobey, they themselves are the only superheroes each of them knows. Tom however has been to outer space and fought next to Tony and Steven, Captain Marvel and Thor and everyone else, he also manhandled Winter Soldier AND The Falcon while pulling his punches.
I can't wait to see what he does next.
why is this a hard argument 🤔. we know what each spiderman can do, we've seen their feats, we all know toby is the best 😉🙂😎
In Civil War Tom’s Spider-Man was casually fighting other highly trained Nd experienced superheroes like it’s nothing. He literally caught Bucky’s arm mid battle Nd complimented it 😭 Tobey’s Spider-Man would’ve gotten knocked tf out of tht was him. Tom is clearly the better fighter since his feats support it, Andrew Nd Tobey on the other hand are closer in skill with combat tho. But since Andrew’s Spider-Man is more agile and quicker it wouldn’t be too far fetched to argue tht he’s a great fighter too. It’s the nostalgia clouded everyone’s eyes so they jus assume Tobey’s Spider-Man is stronger without even acknowledging the feats.
Nostalgia is a pain to speak against 😆
This is wrong on so many levels, Bucky’s striking feats are so shittt lmfao…
Anyway I’ve debunked many other ppls comments and made my own explaining why Tobey would no sell Tom and especially B-Bucky LMFAOOOOO, you should check em out.
Bro you are WAAYYYY off that train does not weigh 45,000lbs. 1 empty train cab weighs around 30tons, and in that scene I count 6 cans also you have to assume it is loaded with people. Also taking into consideration the train is moving Atleast 80mph bro the amount of energy for tobey to stop that train and for the allotted time would be 187million Joules WELL beyond Tom’s 10 second hold in which he couldn’t have actually saved those people without iron man
Have you seen the size comparison of the ferry compared to the train bro? The ferry in the film was 31 392 000 newtons while the train that tobey stopped was only 182 000 Newton’s, the weight is now where even close
The non biased people know that Tom's Spider man is the strongest. But the nostalgia power is too strong, it seems.
Tobey spidy is actually the strongest spiderman physically. He is a more mature spidy. It's like tom and andrew are younger spidy so they are not strong enough as tobey. It’s simple. They are different versions.
You realize that Tom Holland failed with the ship right? Like he literally wasn't successful in saving it.... So how can you use that as an accomplishment of strength? He did not hold the ship together.... Stark came and welded it back together.
And physical strength isn't just how much pounds you can lift.... It's also about what your body can endure. Andrew Garfield's Spider-Man got electrocuted all through his body by Electro and while it knocked him down for a brief period, he was able to fight Goblin within minutes of it happening and pretty well dominated the fight against Goblin. Gwen being in the middle of it was the only thing keeping Goblin competitive.
I honestly feel like Garfield would school Holland in an actual fight.
I Still Think Tom Will Win Against Andrew
Strength: Andrew Lifted A Car
But Tom Lifted A Whole Airport Tunnel,
Which Is 10 Times More Heavy
Durability: Andrew Survived Electric Attacks, But Tom Survived A Bullet Train Hitting Him, He Survived A Whole Building Crash, And The Building Fell On Him, And At The Same Night Survived A Fall From The Plain Which Is Just Too High And Still Was Fighting With Vulture
Intelligence: Andrew Used Some Help With The Conputer To Make A Web Shooter And A Suit, But Tom Just Straight Up Impressed Stark, Gave Stark The Idea To Defeat Ebony Maw, Which Even Doctor Strange Couldn't Trick Him With His Magic And Stark Couldn't Think How He Will Defeat Him
Speed: Now This The One Where Andrew Easily Wins Against Tom, Andrew Literally Just Dodged And Saved A Group Of People In Under 1 Second, I Even Think He Is Faster Than Quicksilver From Mcu
Just because Tom didn’t successfully reconnect the ferry doesn’t delete the fact that he still had to hold both halves.
And even if you don’t want to count that, Tom still lifted the roof of the building off of him.
No matter how you look at it, we’re shown that Tom is stronger than Andrew.
@@Mohammed-gc1xt I wouldn’t say he’s faster than quicksilver. His spider sense just gave him the time to think everything through and properly save those people. But Andrew could keep up with quicksilver like Spider-Man in the old comics.
@@Albino_Basilisk a ya no
The problem everyone seems to forget is the ferry scene wasn’t actually a feat of strength it’s actually confirmed his webs were stretching while he was trying to hold on which in of itself means he wasn’t actually using his strength as people think he is
Aka it’s not a actual feat and if tobey were in the same position the same result would happen were the webs stretch as his full strength isn’t being displayed
So ya everyone stop treating the ferry scene as his best strength feet, his best ones are when civil war with the brigade as he was struggling with that, and his feat in homecoming where he lifts the rubble that’s it neither one of those tops the train so tobey is the strongest still, Andrew I say is the fastest out of all of them, and Tom is the most acrobatics but that’s it
Plus based on Otto fighting peter in no way home Otto seems to man handle mcu peter even with the iron spider which increases his physical attributes yet Otto still seems to be playing with him, yet he had a field day trying to even hold tobey down
@@ATalesTruth- if you read my comment I also said “And even if you don’t want to count that, (which in this case you’re not) Tom still lifted the roof of the building off of him”
So he’s still stronger than Andrew which is the whole point of this
We're missing a few things. Let's take the last movie where toby stops Tom Holland from killing green goblin. He blocked that glider with ease and with a straight face. while Tom Holland was trying his hardest. Also the train and ferry comparison. I think the train was more intense then the ferry. Holland had webs helping him hold the ferry together. Toby had to use raw power from the jump.
Tobey didn’t hold it with ease he was struggling you can hear him grunting not to mention Tobey used webs with the train
"It's not about how hard you hit. It's about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward. How much you can take and keep moving forward." Tobey is the winner hands down.
I can’t wait to see how strong they are together in NWH
I cannot wait for Tobey's brute strength and experience neither Andrew's speed and acrobatic movements in NWH...
Tobey Maguire still rocks 😎 The childhood of almost everyone❤
Honestly I would say Tobey. You have to measure after taking away the toys and go by natural ability. Tobey is the only one of the 3 that can sling webs naturally. The other 2 are devices that do it. Take those away and there is now a very, very big difference.
Does no one know what strength means?
Who says we have to measure by taking away their gadgets? Trying to find anyway to make Tobey win without any credit to Tom or Andrew.
You shouldn’t take away their gadgets…that’s their Spider-Man. It’s not who is strongest natural…it’s just who is the strongest Spider-Man.
Tom Holland did just fine after Tony took away his suit. Still incredibly strong to lift the ruble of an entire building on top of him!
Also, his gadgets are NOT what make him strong, it's his raw physical strength and his brain which allows him to use his tools in the best way
I think Andrew is the best. His performance as Spiderman was perfect. And I wish he had gotten a third film. Plus, his suits were just so cool. Especially the one from the first film.
Bruh his suit in the first one was terrible
I do think Andrew was the best, but I agree that the first movie suit was terrible. But when it comes to the second movie, that is probably the best suit we’ve ever seen on film.
Agree
@@lilak687 i prefer tobey's but dont say andrew's 1st suit is terrible,its actually Amazing but too far from comic(based on fans)
His Spider-Man is perfect but his Peter is meh and also his movies are meh
Tobey Maguire is the strongest Spiderman out of 3 Andrew Garfield is the second strongest and Tom Holland is 3rd strongest but keep in mind they are all legends.
Tom Holland’s Spider-Man has definitely been shown he’s physically the strongest Spider-Man but Tobey’s would definitely beat Tom and Andrew’s Spider-Man due to, like said in the video, his experience of having and using his powers. But Tom’s Spider-Man will eventually grow to be 10x better than Tobey’s, given the show his intelligence and strength. Now all he needs is more fighting experience.
I kind of agree toms spidey is physically stronger than the others and Tobey most likely would win in a fight between the other two right now but I don’t think if you give toms spidey time he will eventually beat Tobeys spidey. I mean in my opinion since tobeys spidey is able to beat toms and andrews spidey right now it wouldn’t matter if Tom was given time to progress and learn they would all progress and learn never too old to learn to tricks or new things to do with your powers Tobeys spidey knew how to use his powers very early on in the first movie.
Tobeys is strongest lol
He failed to hold the boat and tony had to save him meanwgile tobey caught a speeding train, trains weigh ALOT and not to mention the train was speeding fast adding velocity and that adds so much resistance
@@dezgaming8871 the splitting ferry was outputting way more force than the speeding train. Also, you have to remember the age difference. Tom’s spidey was holding that ferry together full of vehicles and people for a while at the age of 15 lmao with freshly new powers. Tobey’s stopped that train as an adult Spider-Man. With years of training under his belt. Tom’s Spider-Man will definitely be strongest by the Tom he’s an adult. You can’t really compare an adult spider verses a kid Spider-Man.
@@TubeMotivations the suit in homecoming had nothing helping him when he was briefly holding the ferry together
I still think Tobey due to how long he last in holding the train where Toms was a view seconds as well as one was a constantly moving train and the other was a boat slowly splitting apart but if I where to say which is stronger it would be Tobey Andrew then Tom due to the difference in strength shown when catching a car or well webbing one up
And Tobey actually stopped the train, tom had to have iron man push the boat back together
@@ColtonWelty what’s the age difference though. Tom Holland is still a kid while Tobey is already in college. Not to mention that the 2 situations were very different. Tom didn’t have buildings around him to reduce the weight.
@@Troublesome_96 Although right now Tobey is stronger, Tom is younger so he might grow to be stronger.
@@ColtonWelty yup
Isnt there a video that showed the boat was heavier and way harder to stop than the train(using physics) that proved toms spider was the strongest?
One point more. Tom's spider man in homecoming lifted a building which fell on him. In the comics Peter Parker also achieved a similar feat, and in both the cases the building's weight was confirmed to be 100,000 tons. I calculated the force to be 10^9 N or 224 million pounds of force which is pretty impressive and much more than the force needed to protect the ferry.
Tom’s spidey held a 3600 ton ship together for a few seconds and survived a train hitting you at max speed. He easily stopped cull obsidian (which he’s as strong as Hulk), and Bucky’s Metal arm, tanked some Thanos punches and the cargo plane that he redirected is heavier than the NY train. But he’s weaker than Tobey, sure guys *facepalm*
All of what you showed shows how Toms high ends are inconsistent asf. I mean really? You were tryna use holding off Cull and catching Bucky’s arm to prove consistency for him, fail. Him holding off Cull is a terrible outlier since IM himself who was making Thanos bleed was kinda struggling with Cull, who isn’t twice the strength as Hulk either lol. Russos confirmed Thanos was holding back on Titan, we could see this from Spidey surviving him lol, even then it was Iron Spidey and he was getting hurt by slams which barely cracked the ground. The fact that he nearly died to a bullet train (having around 300ish tons of force) hitting him shows he can’t actually survive a non-holding back Thanos in any way, shape or for. He didn’t redirect a plane lol and just b4 he was struggling to lift a few tons cooler which collapsed on him lol. He didn’t hold the ship together for 99% of the time, he only did for the last few seconds when his webs ripped and he didn’t even pull it together, IM had to save his ass. This was also debunked since the ship sinking in the water meant he wouldn’t have been holding together that same mass, much less.
Tobey no sold a train hitting him too when he was hanging off of another train moving fast as well, double the speed and momentum would mean that feat of him no selling the train alone is above the train Tom got KTFO to lol. He’s also tanked 6 straight punches of Giant Sandman which shook the whole city block lol, Tom dura comes nowhere near as good as Tobey’s. Ignoring all that, Tom doesn’t have a single striking feat to put Tobey down or even have superior striking, none of Toms striking feats come close to Tobey kicking off Giant Sandman’s whole hand which tanked the impact of its own 10k+ ton punches and even rocking the entire Sandman body sideways.
@@or_no. Finally, someone says this "Tobey no sold a train hitting him too when he was hanging off of another train moving fast as well, double the speed and momentum would mean that feat of him no selling the train alone is above the train Tom got KTFO to lol."
@@Venom-rr1vg you agree or nah?
@@or_no. agree
@@or_no. I never understood how the ferry scene was a feat. I thought it was obvious that he didn't hold it up, only that it was sinking slowly. Plus if they really intended that to mean he held it up even for one second, then they never would have had Ironman come save him.
Did you forget that in the ferry scene in Homecoming that Iron Man showed up and saved everyone? Tom only lasted a couple minutes until Tony showed up. Tobey’s only handicap was his first attempt using his webs until they broke and realized he had to go all out.
Not minutes, seconds
Not to mention Tobey just had a fight with Doc Ock so he was already hurt while doing that.
Yes that is true however according to the math in the video the ferry is over 5x the amount of force exerted on Tom than Tobey faced with the train. And Tom didn’t pass out while experiencing all that stress
@@ash_5644 I mean you can’t blame Tobey for passing out. Before stopping the train he had a whole fight with Ock. Even got thrown off the train lol so using all his strength for both of those scenarios can be exhausting. Him passing out is acceptable. I know I would lol 😂
@@ash_5644 The math is off. Tom webbed up the ferry so he wasn’t holding it together all by himself. By the time all the webs broke Iron Man was already there.
Keep in mind that Tobey's feats of strength were mostly in his arms.... Also keep in mind that the Legs are significantly stronger than arms.
Toby is still my favorite
You forgot about Toby was withstanding the gravity of a star in the second movie
Ehh it was only metal that was getting sucked in I think it was more of a magnetic pull then gravitational
@@joshuawright3287 but still
@@raymondlabelle2879 no no Joshua wrights right he would have been unaffected by it as it was purely magnetic, if you put your hand between magnets you won’t feel the pull
@@PugintheStrudel yeah but if the magnets are at least a ton and you’re under it i think you would feel it
@@raymondlabelle2879 well considering humans aren’t magnetic I highly doubt you’d feel it
tobey: most experienced, a good leader with the hardest battles in terms of will (bully maguire had to reject the symbiote lmao, dude was mentally the strongest)
garfield: most agile and spider-like, very lean build good for moving fast
holland: the youngest and strongest.
if holland were to get garfield and tobey's spider men to mentor him, he would surely be the goat. but for now even though he's insanely strong, he's very young and dumb lol
I honestly dont think holland is the strongest. Tobey stopped a derailed train. A subway train weighs 85,000 lbs. and it's moving prob 65 mph uncontrolled. It would be 970,000.0 Newtons (N) = 218,064.67 Pounds-Force (lbf). Holland was trying to hold a split ship when the ship was still mostly vertical and moving slow. He couldn't hold it. Holland is stronger than Garfield, but not stronger than Tobey.
Tom's spidey is designed to have minimum of 6 to 9 movies that's why he has the longest origin story compared to Tobey and Andrew.
Tobey was able to hold off Goblin's strength when he was almost impailed in the final fight while Tom was being tossed like a rag doll by Goblin. Plus Tobey was able to hold back a fully enraged Tom, that just cemented Tobey as the strongest.
@@kli2887 you're totally right, the only issue is we couldn't see all of his strength cuz the train was nothing in terms of what tom faced in the first movie.
Favorite feat of strength by any Spiderman ( not saying best ):
Tom stopping Winter Soldiers punch with one hand, effortlessly.
People arguing whose the strongest Spiderman when No Way Home is probably going to make them equal
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Or they make the older Spider-Man even stronger then Tom saying Tom will get as strong as them when he gets their age
I think there going to make Tom because he is the new Spider-Man 😒 honestly I’m scared for this movie because I love Tobey and I hope they won’t damage his character or make him a bad guy like ik how dumb Toms Spider-Man series is
@@thebluemorpho2962 I think everyone with common sense would agree with you
@@thebluemorpho2962 i hope tasm spidey also doesn't get shoved aside to make way for tom
Andrew is by FAR the fastest spiderman, dude effortlessly and consistently dodged lightning bolts. Plus, Tobey hold the train for MUCH longer alone than Holland wich held that ferry for barely 5 seconds without the help of the webs.
Edit : No way home basically comfirmed tobey is stronger
not fast enough to save gwen :D
@@sorrybroo8303 To be fair he was stopping a clock tower, fighting green goblin while at the same time trying to save Gwen
No way home also proves that andrew has faster reflexes than Tom
@@sorrybroo8303 Man was pinned, had nothing to have him leap off of like Tobey did and he had no practice to those situations, and Gwen had a head start to the golden gates, but Andrew basically proves he could save people from falling with MJ in NWH.
Andrew is my favorite. I like his Spider-Man and Peter Parker both equally in TASM and in TASM2 I like his Spider-Man more then his Peter Parker
I think MCU Spidey is automatically the strongest after fighting the Team Cap in Civil War and Thanos in IW and Endgame
He was seen as an insect by Thanos and had the Iron Spider suit which was an indefinite amp in all stats lol. Fighting cap who, in that same movie could just about curl a 5 ton helicopter, isn’t that impressive.
@@or_no. So You Were Expecting Spider-Man To Beat Thanos? Lol, None Of The Spider-Men's Could Beat Thanos,
And Captain America Was Clearly About To Lose If It Was The Far From Home Version Of Spider-Man, Beacuse In Civil War He Did Not Had Spider-Sense And He Was Fighting Big Heroes For First Time
mcu spiderman is gay, so automatically he's not strong.
Tony told Tom if cap didn't hold back he would of kicked Tom's ass
@@Wickedersombody Peter is physically stronger then Steve but less experienced
Tobey Maguire's Spiderman was able to catch an enraged Tom Holland's blow when Holland tried to kill the Goblin. This is a Holland who intended to kill with the blow, and who would have given the thrust his everything. Yet Maguire held him in place. Therefore, they are relative.
Tobry .. definitely.. he stopped a highly fast moving train by himself for god sakes
Exactly
His webs stopped it
@@robertcoggeshall3071 it’s his strength
His webs did most of the work while he held onto them, which is still impressive. You can see when he shoots the multiple webs out, they slowed the train to a crawl, allowing him to hold onto the webs to make sure they didn't break. He tried stopping the train with his feet and you see where that got him.
@@robertcoggeshall3071 He still held onto the webs and even dented the train
In the comics Spiderman is about 45 times stronger than Captain America.
(25 Tons vs 1200lbs respectively) I have no idea what their relative strength levels are in the cinematic universe though.
if this is MOBA
tobey: tank/fighter
andrew: agility/assasin
tom: crowd controller/intelligence
Tobey’s spiderman is expirenced and has extreme strength, Andrew’s Spider-Man has the best agility, and Tom’s Spider-Man has the least expirenced, but maybe the most powerful as he grows in his life
Andrew also seems like the smartest and most recourseful tbh. When faced with tougher enemies he uses his intelligence to beat them, mainly with electro.
Andrew is the smartest too.
You did not consider the fact that the suit told him where were the critical points to attach his web to the ferry in order for it to be easier to hold together. Also, there is no indication that he actually did held it together as the webs continue to stretch until the very end. It wasn't until the help of ironman arrived that the ferry stopped coming apart and even was put back together.
You should compare only the feats of strength that we have data about. Like the bridge he caught in civil war (which you didn't go into detail). The capabilities of the super soldiers in the MCU aren't as impressive as their current comics variants and Spider-Man has always been around 5 times stronger than Captain America, so that's not a good comparison either.
Also, it doesn't really matter that he is still a kid (around 17 which is almost peak by the way). Because we don't know how much stronger he will get, if any stronger at all. We can just use the information that we have. Based on that, it's not easy to determine if Garfield's is stronger than Holland's, but it's clear as day that Maguire's (at least by the time of Spider-Man 2) was leagues above any of them in terms of strength.
I really wish they made Spider-Man 4 and The Amazing Spider-Man 3
Well we now know that Tobey’s spidey is stronger than Tom’s
The iron spider suit definitely adds a strength bonus as we’ve seen crazy strength feats by iron man too. So the evidence unfortunately points to Tom being the weakest as with the suit he was still overpowered by Tobey in his regular suit. I think OP is right that Tobey is strongest/durable. Andrew is the most agile being able to dodge lightning, and Tom is the smartest/Tech savy since he had his billionaire sugar daddy sponsor him. Tony literally invented a new element and time travel. That trumps anything any scientist in Tobeys world. Not to mention he BUILT THIS IN A CAVE WITH A BOX OF SCRAPS!!!!
He FORGOT. The BOAT didn’t stink bc of Tony’s help at the end lmaoo this is a joke Obviously Toby is the strongest. In the movie the Green goblin wasn’t phased by his weak punches literally laughing. Toby is the Strongest in Raw power. Can’t change my mind. He even stopped Toms Rage kill attempt. And did it with ease on his face 🤧
Facts
Bro in the ferry scene from homecoming Peter got bailed out by Iron Man and his flying bots pushing the ship together from breaking. The warehouse scene from later on in the film is more impressive of his strength since he relied on his own shear willpower to escape from underneath the ruble.
He held the fairy together through his own strength for several minutes before Tony showed up
@@christianphrenger7902 Yeah you're right, but he was STRUGGLING to do so, also he had his fancy stark tech suit that had a bunch of do dads. At least in the warehouse scene he was wearing his normal home made suit that had little to no tech in it whatsoever (except for his web shooters). All that strength from that scene came from him alone, there was no Mr. Stark to bail him out lol.
@@christianphrenger7902 He kept two floating pieces of the ferry from splitting at a slight slower rate.
I can manhandle a 3500 lb boat in the water at dock. The ferry feat really isn’t overly impressive and like was noted he was failing and bailed out
@@BC08 Yeah Again He Literally Gives You The Amount Of Force That Would Require Which Is More Than Tobeys Feat…
@@christianphrenger7902 He’s wrong on both calculations.
Came here after NWH, man Tobey doesn't even struggle abit
Bro stared into Tom's eyes 💀
@@AnimusVolare And Tom's Spiderman was trying as hard as he could lmao
Well it's kinda obvious why he doesn't struggle... Because of physics and geometry... Not strength....
He literally used the shape of a Triangle to stop Peter pushing down, coupled with the fact that holding something above your head and pulling down like he was doing, is pretty damn easy to stop.
The strongest person on the planet could be doing something similar, and you'd be able to stop him pushing it down past me, all because of how almost impossible it is to get enough force to overpower that shape tryin to pull down from above your head...
@@mastere6115 Tobey's Peter displayed strength far greater than Tom's. Let's forget about that right?
@@mastere6115 tom was helped by gravity when he pushing down the stab meanwhile tobey resist gravity when he try to held the stab
someone resist gravity looks more impressive than someone who helped by gravity
at this time their position almost no matter
I know I'm a month late but I just wanna point out something regarding Tom's Ferry feat. That being that I don't think it's all that reliable. I'm saying this because looking at the pace of which the two pieces of the ferry were separating, comparing the speed of separation before and after Tom's Spider-Man is trying to hold them together, there doesn't seem to be any actual difference. Now, unless I'm completely blind, this would suggest that he actually wasn't accomplishing anything in that scene, and as such it isn't a reliable feat.
This isn't to say that Tom might not be the strongest Spider-Man, but I personally think a much more reliable scene to gauge his strength would be the warehouse scene. I say this because there, we can infer that that is his maximum effort given the way he acts during the scene, yet it should still be much lighter than the ferry he held together only hours prior. This actually supports my case.
I don't think Tom's Spider-Man held the ferry together at all and he didn't even seem to slow down its rate of separation. The scene of him lifting the collapsed warehouse is, in my opinion, a much better example of his strength as we can assume that it's his maximum effort and has a lot less to consider, making it much simpler to measure as well.
Well its not him stooping it its the fact he didn’t get ripped in half
@@tonychandler5417 but if he had held on for much longer, he most definitely would have. People treat it as if he was actually able to hold it together, even temporarily, and then coming to the conclusion that he can lift a roughly equal amount of weight to the ferry, but if you watch the scene closely, you'd see that it's not the case. Any of the other Spider-Mans would have been able to do the same before getting torn in half if Iron Man hadn't shown up.
@@l.pricetag.5207 Thank you!! Also, no one is accounting for Tobey lifting a part of a building that was being pulled by the gravity of an artificial sun.
@@dranixrush3306 that too. The weight of the wall itself is impressive but he's fighting against the gravitational pull of a miniature sun that was powerful enough to pull in full cars from several streets length away, along with the entire warehouse itself.
@@l.pricetag.5207 Yeah, Tobey and Andrew are being downplayed bad...
ferry was heavier yes, but Tom held it for a few seconds b4 iron ma came. But props to Tom he held a heavier weight. But tobey had 2 stp a train no help full speed no brakes. For a much longer time. I'm pretty sure Tobey stops the ferry as well for a few seconds
Not to mention that Tom wasn't even stopping the ferry anyway. Its parts were separating at the same pace before and after he tried to stop it.
@@l.pricetag.5207 yeah he wasn’t stopping it, he was holding it together, did you even watch the movie?
@@anustoiusmnss9333 what I'm saying is that he wasn't stopping the two parts from separating. The parts of the ferry were moving apart at the same pace before he was trying to hold it together as they were when he was, meaning that he wasn't holding it together at all. And please stop with this whole "Did yOu EveN wAtCh tHe mOviE?" thing. I see it get said in tons of arguments and it's obvious that everyone has.
But see that's the thing too. I don't think Toby Spiderman would have done any better with the fairy. But conversely I do think that Holland Spiderman would have faired just as well if not somewhat better because of his tech.
@@benjeesilv1596 I think the exact opposite.
I think Toby is the stronger Spider-Man. He really had a lot of things to deal with in all three of his movies. Also, some of the scenes became iconic which is amazing and he knows how to handle himself in a fight or in any type of situation. So, I think Toby is the stronger Spider-Man and I like him as Spider-Man he is the best one between all of three of them. 😀👍
Tobey is the strongest version of Spider-Man because he has Organic Webbing which means his about almost same level of Spider-Noir and Kaine Parker(The Other).
I feel like Andrew Garfield was the most in touch with his powers
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Definitely not
Agreed.
Why do you say that?
Tom’s Spider-Man may be the physically strongest, but he’s taken no where near as many hits as Tobey’s Spider-Man.
definitely not , even tho i’d rather get 3 piece combo’d by green goblin a million times over than getting beat up by thanos 😭
@@dep8730 Good point. I feel like no one mentions that Tom took a full punch from Thanos and tanked it. That punch would have killed any normal person.
@@wet0wl he had the iron spider suit and it was confirmed throughout the whole fight on Titan Thanos held back, Tom caps at bullet train level durability for now which is fodder to Tobey and even Andrew depending on Dura categories.
The problem everyone seems to forget is the ferry scene wasn’t actually a feat of strength it’s actually confirmed his webs were stretching while he was trying to hold on which in of itself means he wasn’t actually using his strength as people think he is
Aka it’s not a actual feat and if tobey were in the same position the same result would happen were the webs stretch as his full strength isn’t being displayed
So ya everyone stop treating the ferry scene as his best strength feet, his best ones are when civil war with the brigade as he was struggling with that, and his feat in homecoming where he lifts the rubble that’s it neither one of those tops the train so tobey is the strongest still, Andrew I say is the fastest out of all of them, and Tom is the most acrobatics but that’s it
Plus based on Otto fighting peter in no way home Otto seems to man handle mcu peter even with the iron spider which increases his physical attributes yet Otto still seems to be playing with him, yet he had a field day trying to even hold tobey down
@@ATalesTruth- I agree with you
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The way Tobey held the glider as Tom tried to impale Norman with it, barely breaking a sweat while Tom was angry as hell and going in for the kill, in my opinion, shows that Tobey is the strongest.
Green goblin was also laughing at Toms punches
@@Hugo350R whereas with Tobey he had to cry like a little.girl to get his guard down
Toms Spider-Man has the best technology Toby's Spider-Man has the best spidey sense Andrew's Spider-Man has the best hairline
I can agree
lmao Andrew;s has the best spider-sense and speed by miles. Tobey has the most endurance and can take most damage
Tobey & Andy. One caught a car & the other stopped a train at ridiculous speeds.
Didnt Tom's caught a speeding vehicle as well
@@magguwe8760 yep
From my thinking
- tobey
Tobey is a great spider man, able to stop a train, defeat villians like goblin, otto, venom and he has great durability. In the nwh fight he able inject the serum even when was already drown by sand man, and him being able use web without shooters is a great advantage, while Andrew and tom need to make and refill the shooters, he doesn't have a problem like that.
So tobey
- strength
- endurance/Durability
- natural webbing.
- Andrew
Andrew is also a strong spider man, he has great speed able to dodge lighting, and destroy a cop car, also hit by bullets and taser, I also think he has the best spider sense able to catch a small glass which very fast.
So Andrew has
- good speed
- powerful spider sense
- tom
So tom is the newest spider man, and also it means great potential, he has great strength able to lift a bridge - like thing, catch a punch from Bucky's metal arm, and has great spidey sense, he also uses suits which grants enchanted capabilities,
So tom
- great strength
- powerful suits
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Tom got the advantage of technology, Tobey got the advantage of Experience and Andrew got the advantage of Brains so, it could always go either way.