When I consulted a "PREVENTIVE" cardiologist two years ago for a second oopinion, I could not believe what I was being told. This heart "expert," knowing I was a full blown type 2 diabetic with an LAD stent in place, told me that I should NOT even mention the words "ketogenic diet" in his office. Then he proceeded to recommend high dose statin therapy, PCSK9 inhibitors and a plant based (HIGH CARB) diet for me. The more he spewed his vegan ideology, including the dangers of red meat and saturated fat, the more I was thinking, "is this guy trying to kill me"? The silver lining for me was that I started my journey of improving my metabolic health with the advice of doctors like Ben Scher and Eric Westman. AMEN.
5:00 "And then I got really upset..omgosh, this works better than anything I've seen! For weight loss, for managing metabolic health - which is connected to cardiac health. WHY have I not heard anything about this? And then this sort of set me off on this mission...We need to make sure people know about this." "And not everyone needs to be on a ketogenic diet, but this needs to be a treatment option every doctor knows about because of how well it can work, and how much it can help people." - Dr. Bret Scher
Keto pretty much eliminated my cronic depression. When there are really bad times I can feel it tugging on me but it doesn't overwhelm me or disable me like in the past.
Deep respect and admiration for Drs. Eric Westman and Bret Scher. I want to believe that most doctors are well-intended and don’t have a nefarious intent. The dilemma we’re faced with is more of a case of good people under the influence of bad ideas.
Dr Scher is amazing! He has been shifting around the internet as he tries to find a solid spot. I have been following him for years. Another Dr that tries to be more Evidence based, even though he knows and trusts the anecdotal evidence. Always a pleasure and he has had some amazing guests. Dr Ken Berry, well you really get an idea for how large Dr Berry really is!
Great show! This way of eating saved my sister from diabetes and all that goes with it. I am 80 and never developed those medical issues. I discovered this eating style long ago and it has served me well. Glad to see doctors are incorporating ketogenic lifestyle into their practice.
Back in 1983/1984 when two doctors won the Noble Peace prize for their research on statins. One of the doctors made the statement, “By the 2000’s we will have eliminated heart disease.” How’s that working?
I think under RFKjr he will facilitate more studies in low carb diets which have been purposely unfunded by big pharma. It will still take a few years but I think we've hit a deflection point in Americans health starting next year.
@@jimrutherford2773 You must be living under a rock. The food revolution has started already. These 2 doctors are a result of what's been going on for years.
Thank you. I enjoy discussions like this. I was fortunate to find low carb videos when looking at diets for diabetics after being diagnosed. It was comments below the videos by people telling of their own experience that encouraged me to try it. It's now been 3 years since I started low carb and I am metabolically healthy and at my ideal weight (without even trying). About 1 month after starting low carb I visited a hospital dietician with my food diary and was told that I was not eating enough carbs and that I would lose muscle. I cancelled my follow up appointment and sent through my blood test results at the 3 month marking showing I had remitted my diabetes. At the one year mark I saw an exercise physiological who said that I was not losing muscle.
@@jan_ellison_baszucki Thank you. The way I feel is helping me to stick with it. It's a bit weird, after being overweight/obese for about 3 years, to feel overweight if I put on a few kilos! It's good to know what to do about it too.
I love these conversations! I am metabolic ally healthy, all lipid numbers are great EXCEPT LDL! My Kaiser doc is hounding me to get on statins. I hope Kaiser will get on board with the new research on LMHRs!!
Bret was one of the Keto people I found with Diet Doctor. Too many influencers but I've been tempted to blow some money to see him after my heart attack.
Excellent recording Dr. Westman, Thank you! And Thank You Dr. Bret Scher, hope to hear more talks from you in the future!! I’m going to get your book, Your Best Health Ever.
I’m a CNA with Q-map I work with adults with disabilities! How do I get some kind of certification? I have the keto textbook and a great library.! But of course for the state federal programs I work with this would open the conversation about metabolic syndrome! People with disabilities deserve to be healthier! And quite frankly, it wouldn’t be that hard to eliminate side effects of the drugs they mandated to take. Or at least to eliminate comorbidities.! I now know the autism gene (are single peptide polymorph) actually the genetic trigger of methylation within your body MTHFR! So much so that sublingual methyl B12 shows a behavioral change with an hour! How do I get my doctors and the nurses whose license I work under to listen to me? Or at least open the conversation.?
Supposedly us who are carnivores are now narcissists according to vegans and don’t care about the lives of animals. I’m truly an animal lover and I do struggle with this quite often sadly. 😢
Just about all those animals would never have had any physical lives if we didn't raise them for food. Plus, a good amount of their manure can be used to renew and fertilize plants without excessive salts from industrial fertilizers. Blood and bone meal is also widely used as soil amendments as well. Especially on smaller family farms, generations of humans have been able to learn about nature first-hand by watching and participating in these animals' births, developments, lives, and deaths. It continues our involvement in how we've eaten and lived (to a lesser extent) for millennia.
The glp1 help most with appetite and will power. I work with food and manage low carb most of the time but i could not do neatly so well without the weekly injections.
"We need to go up stream". We need to get back to the idea that kids can and are being taught! Kid & parents have been taught that toddlers & children need to have carbs every 2 hours...that sugar is a everyday, even every couple of hours need! Teachers are taught that young children need to have carbs & sugar as rewards several times a day, but protein can just be added to foods and is Not important. Grandparents need to step in and be the first...treats can be protein or play...no carbs or sugar needed! Grandma can be the one who says: "eat your meat, you want to grow up big & strong" instead of "eat your veggies"....and back to "drink your milk" and that is Not chocolate milk.
Promoting vegan as a legitimate option is dubious at best and most likely harmful. Check out a recent episode on the Pottenger’s Human channel for a good list of all the essential nutrients missing from a vegan diet.
Yes, vegan is a choice if morality if people don't want to consume animal products but it has nothing to do with health. You can drink Cola and eat Oreos all day all week and you be vegan but not healthy. People can eat healthy on a vegan diet but it's more difficult and it is not a complete diet because you need to supplement with some b-vitamins (which is very important for cognitive functions). Protein from legumes for instance are not as bio available as meat, eggs and fish for instance.
When I consulted a "PREVENTIVE" cardiologist two years ago for a second oopinion, I could not believe what I was being told. This heart "expert," knowing I was a full blown type 2 diabetic with an LAD stent in place, told me that I should NOT even mention the words "ketogenic diet" in his office. Then he proceeded to recommend high dose statin therapy, PCSK9 inhibitors and a plant based (HIGH CARB) diet for me. The more he spewed his vegan ideology, including the dangers of red meat and saturated fat, the more I was thinking, "is this guy trying to kill me"? The silver lining for me was that I started my journey of improving my metabolic health with the advice of doctors like Ben Scher and Eric Westman. AMEN.
Metabolic Mind is a great channel.
Two doctors who are concerned with really helping people. Thank you. 🐈⬛🐈⬛🐈⬛
5:00 "And then I got really upset..omgosh, this works better than anything I've seen! For weight loss, for managing metabolic health - which is connected to cardiac health. WHY have I not heard anything about this? And then this sort of set me off on this mission...We need to make sure people know about this."
"And not everyone needs to be on a ketogenic diet, but this needs to be a treatment option every doctor knows about because of how well it can work, and how much it can help people." - Dr. Bret Scher
Keto pretty much eliminated my cronic depression. When there are really bad times I can feel it tugging on me but it doesn't overwhelm me or disable me like in the past.
When my depression gets worse, I fast for a few days 👌
Deep respect and admiration for Drs. Eric Westman and Bret Scher. I want to believe that most doctors are well-intended and don’t have a nefarious intent. The dilemma we’re faced with is more of a case of good people under the influence of bad ideas.
Love Dr Bret!
Dr Scher is amazing! He has been shifting around the internet as he tries to find a solid spot. I have been following him for years. Another Dr that tries to be more Evidence based, even though he knows and trusts the anecdotal evidence. Always a pleasure and he has had some amazing guests. Dr Ken Berry, well you really get an idea for how large Dr Berry really is!
Medicine needs more gentleman like you thanks
Great show! This way of eating saved my sister from diabetes and all that goes with it. I am 80 and never developed those medical issues. I discovered this eating style long ago and it has served me well. Glad to see doctors are incorporating ketogenic lifestyle into their practice.
RFK Jr. should visit with these Doctors 👌
I've never seen Dr Scher so passionate. Totally inspirational... Great interview! Thank you Dr. Westman and Dr. Scher!
Back in 1983/1984 when two doctors won the Noble Peace prize for their research on statins. One of the doctors made the statement, “By the 2000’s we will have eliminated heart disease.” How’s that working?
I think under RFKjr he will facilitate more studies in low carb diets which have been purposely unfunded by big pharma. It will still take a few years but I think we've hit a deflection point in Americans health starting next year.
@@jimrutherford2773
You must be living under a rock. The food revolution has started already. These 2 doctors are a result of what's been going on for years.
Thank you. I enjoy discussions like this.
I was fortunate to find low carb videos when looking at diets for diabetics after being diagnosed. It was comments below the videos by people telling of their own experience that encouraged me to try it. It's now been 3 years since I started low carb and I am metabolically healthy and at my ideal weight (without even trying).
About 1 month after starting low carb I visited a hospital dietician with my food diary and was told that I was not eating enough carbs and that I would lose muscle. I cancelled my follow up appointment and sent through my blood test results at the 3 month marking showing I had remitted my diabetes.
At the one year mark I saw an exercise physiological who said that I was not losing muscle.
Good for you! Such an inspiring story.
@@jan_ellison_baszucki Thank you. The way I feel is helping me to stick with it.
It's a bit weird, after being overweight/obese for about 3 years, to feel overweight if I put on a few kilos! It's good to know what to do about it too.
Great interview and mindset Have a wonderful day Everyone 😊!.
I love these conversations! I am metabolic ally healthy, all lipid numbers are great EXCEPT LDL! My Kaiser doc is hounding me to get on statins. I hope Kaiser will get on board with the new research on LMHRs!!
Two of my favorite metabolic health advocates! Thank you, Drs Westman and Scher!
Also: btw- much appreciation, respect and love to you both! BRAVO!
Dr Bret Sher is such an admirable medic for his work on the metabolic impacts on mental health.
Great interview!
Love watching both of your channels. Thank you so much for all the information you've shared.
Bret was one of the Keto people I found with Diet Doctor. Too many influencers but I've been tempted to blow some money to see him after my heart attack.
A great discussion. The medical community needs to pay attention.
What initially drew me to Dr Scher was his way of evaluating a paper or study.
Thanks Dr. Westman & Dr. Scher! 👍🏼😊
Excellent recording Dr. Westman, Thank you! And Thank You Dr. Bret Scher, hope to hear more talks from you in the future!! I’m going to get your book, Your Best Health Ever.
Dr. Brett!!!👍
I have followed Dr Scher's podcasts since 2020...GREAT information❤
Greetings Dr Westman fellow of the Bariatric society and giving tribute to Dr Atkins. Here is the cutting edge.
Great talk.
good information, thank you
Excellent discussion!
Love the interview great info ❤
Really great talk. Thank you both.
I’m a CNA with Q-map I work with adults with disabilities! How do I get some kind of certification? I have the keto textbook and a great library.! But of course for the state federal programs I work with this would open the conversation about metabolic syndrome! People with disabilities deserve to be healthier! And quite frankly, it wouldn’t be that hard to eliminate side effects of the drugs they mandated to take. Or at least to eliminate comorbidities.!
I now know the autism gene (are single peptide polymorph) actually the genetic trigger of methylation within your body MTHFR!
So much so that sublingual methyl B12 shows a behavioral change with an hour! How do I get my doctors and the nurses whose license I work under to listen to me? Or at least open the conversation.?
❤ Thos the the doctor's i started with. They changed my life ❤
Supposedly us who are carnivores are now narcissists according to vegans and don’t care about the lives of animals. I’m truly an animal lover and I do struggle with this quite often sadly. 😢
Agreed, I wish I could eat plants without being sick...
Just keep in mind that big ag, large-scale farming kills more animals per calorie than eating beef.
I grew up on a dairy and crop farm in WI. I have zero qualms about eating meat. It was and is a way of life.
Just about all those animals would never have had any physical lives if we didn't raise them for food. Plus, a good amount of their manure can be used to renew and fertilize plants without excessive salts from industrial fertilizers. Blood and bone meal is also widely used as soil amendments as well. Especially on smaller family farms, generations of humans have been able to learn about nature first-hand by watching and participating in these animals' births, developments, lives, and deaths. It continues our involvement in how we've eaten and lived (to a lesser extent) for millennia.
There are plenty of small animals killed who have their habitat in the large fields of monocrops.
Thanks for the excellent podcasts of you both!!!!! And for this awesome interview !
The glp1 help most with appetite and will power. I work with food and manage low carb most of the time but i could not do neatly so well without the weekly injections.
BBB&E and stopped statins after heart attack. Now reducing med. Never felt better.
Notice Dr. Scher said he tried this himself. Then introduced it to his patients.
A line seems to be forming and you guys have got to elbow your way to the forefront. MAHA
"We need to go up stream". We need to get back to the idea that kids can and are being taught! Kid & parents have been taught that toddlers & children need to have carbs every 2 hours...that sugar is a everyday, even every couple of hours need! Teachers are taught that young children need to have carbs & sugar as rewards several times a day, but protein can just be added to foods and is Not important. Grandparents need to step in and be the first...treats can be protein or play...no carbs or sugar needed! Grandma can be the one who says: "eat your meat, you want to grow up big & strong" instead of "eat your veggies"....and back to "drink your milk" and that is Not chocolate milk.
Thanks for this. Can we get a link to the NJOM study and those numbers please? Thank you.
My cholesterol went up to over 400 on a carnivore diet. But I felt fantastic.
Herbivore here. Low carb for me is about 80 to 150 grams a day. I do strenuous weight training. Oops, I ate a couple small candy bars today...yum!
HDL is what I live by. Coconut oil better than statins by far.
It’s not about individual foods. The focus is offf
So Drs what do we do??
Eat whole foods: meat, eggs, fish, butter, cheese,vegetables. Avoid sugar and carbs.
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Fasting blood sugar is a worthless test? Heresy! I'm actually relieved. Mine has gone up on lchf. Best regards.
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"There's a pill for that" mentality!
Are we not considering triglycerides -- maybe I need to finish listening.
Brett is buff. See that?
Bazuki group. Their son is a gifted cervant.
Promoting vegan as a legitimate option is dubious at best and most likely harmful. Check out a recent episode on the Pottenger’s Human channel for a good list of all the essential nutrients missing from a vegan diet.
Yes, vegan is a choice if morality if people don't want to consume animal products but it has nothing to do with health. You can drink Cola and eat Oreos all day all week and you be vegan but not healthy. People can eat healthy on a vegan diet but it's more difficult and it is not a complete diet because you need to supplement with some b-vitamins (which is very important for cognitive functions).
Protein from legumes for instance are not as bio available as meat, eggs and fish for instance.
@@johannas.l.brushane2518 vegan kill more animals. it’s not ethical. it’s delusional
Why does Dr Bret Scherr prescribe stayins..? Would he take them ? I lost a ,ittle respect for him when he said that.
I think they would do it for free if their rabbi is telling them to do it.
How many would have chemo if it prevented cancer? Especially if it runs in your family. W's analogies make one question his rhetoric....& More
As long as the guidelines and especially the anti meat propaganda continues there is not much hope.
Is BiPolar disorder a thing.???
Yes, it is absolutely a legitimate diagnosis, and there are many who suffer with it.
I lived alongside it all my life, my mother and then 3 of my siblings. It's very real
Brain based diseases. ???