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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 3 ส.ค. 2023
- China and Indonesia have always maintained to have no territorial disputes in the South China Sea, but that might change. It began with a changed attitude between the two country's navies after an encroachment of Chinese fishing vessels into Indonesia's Exclusive Economic Zone, and it escalated after Indonesias started drilling oil in disputed waters.
FULL TRANSCRIPT + SOURCES:
docs.google.com/document/d/1B...
MAIN SOURCES:
Indonesia Leans Further Toward US Amid Growing Maritime Dispute With China (VOA):
www.voanews.com/a/indonesia-l...
Remote Military Outpost will Help Indonesia Resist Chinese Maritime Expansion (VOA):
www.voanews.com/a/indonesia-m...
China Demanded Halt to Indonesian Drilling Near Natuna Islands: Report (The Diplomat):
thediplomat.com/2021/12/china...
EXCLUSIVE China protested Indonesian drilling, military exercises (Reuters):
www.reuters.com/world/asia-pa...
To deter Chinese sea claims, Indonesia puts its fishers on the front line
news.mongabay.com/2020/01/nat...
Did the Natuna Incident Shake Indonesia-China Relations? (Yosof Ishak Intitute):
www.iseas.edu.sg/images/pdf/I...
The Natuna Islands: 'Malaysian in geography', Indonesian in sovereignty (Astro Awani):
www.astroawani.com/berita-dun...
#natunaislands #southchinasea
Words and claims based on historical or traditional by any countries will only create war. Imagine if Mongolia claimed China based on history?
You are basically saying if you occupy a land, and that's yours regardless of the means and the prior ownership.
Well... Israel ...lol
@@evisonliao8802 you thought the world is ruled with justice and harsh language? too bad this world is ruled with might rather than justice, remember the sayings of oppenheimer from bhagavad ghita when he created nuclear weapons? "i am become death the destroyer of the worlds" this world is ruled by a mighty tyrant who used nuclear weapons to subjugates nation who doesn't have it, mahabharatta,ragnarok and armageddon is not a myth but future history of mankind in the last great war ever fought.
Most territories claimed base historical😅
@@malakatan3235 then historically we indonesian kicked mongolian and chinese asses back to their khan.
that disputed area claimed by 3 countries. Indonesia, China and Vietnam. But couple months ago Indonesia and Vietnam reach new understanding that Vietnam recognized that waters as Indonesian.
It's actually beneficial to Vietnam that way. When you think about it, having stronger indonesia,WHILE avoiding the risk of actually protecting those water AND being part of the same organization union of ASEAN their businesses can still operate together with indonesians while the Indonesian government keeps legitimacy and take responsibility along with risk.
Lies again? TV Series Thick Sperm
The waters around Natuna islands lie within the Indonesian exclusive economic zone. Those waters are Indonesian. There is no dispute. It is that China continually disregards this.
这片海域是中国的
We filipinos support indonesia and vietnam we should unite against modern imperialism be it usa china australia russia etc
Australia? And who is the etc?
@@parkerburrus289 france, UK, spain are ones that come to mind, france still controls territory in south america which is thousands of kilometers away from any historically valid territory, basically a colony
This really should have been the litmus test for ASEAN Centrality.
However, that ship has sailed and probably sunk already.
ASEAN is just a waste of energy.
@@alesh2275Cold war destroyed the possibility of forming the asean of federation sadly even the maphilindo federation failed
@@parkerburrus289Australia is the biggest bully in the south pasific
Let's just propose to rename the south china sea into asean sea.
Or ASEAN's Economic exsclusive zone😃
They already did that in indonesia people Are not going to say South china sea but North Natuna Sea... In the first place if people think because the Sea have China name then is belong to China then Indian Ocean is belong to India it's ridiculous...
@@yellow13foxtwo then Indonesia is India's Islands 🫠🤣
@@Enseaclopedia yeah can you imagine if India start Claiming Indian ocean belong to them because the Name is "Indian Ocean" 🤭
In the Philippines, we don’t call it South China Sea but we instead call it to West Philippine Sea.
The thing is, messing around with Indonesia as of now is a huge risk to China.
- Losing one of their biggest trade partners.
- Losing Billion in investment money with no return.
- Losing access to -Maluku- Malacca Strait (Selat Malaka); means either China losing fast access to Saudi's oil, export to Europe, and ability to fast network with the current developing African nations.
- Pushing Indonesia closer to the western's side.
This is why China doesn't go full on ballistic, claiming territories like they did with the Philippines and Vietnam.
On the other hand, being very rich and feeding Indonesia it's money and being a good superior partner will and slowly make indonesians be more friendly to china. And eventually gullible and grateful enough to give up it's claim and be a Chinese obidient country for china😂😂😂 lest indonesians kept their integrity. Or be some side Concubine of China's Earth Empire 😂😂😂. Though I think china wants Indonesia bro at least maintain a resemblance of independence and freedom while having a collar on their neck.😢
Malacca straits not Maluku straits
@@TheAnonymousKnightOfJusticeChina is better off than the West monopolizing ex-colonizers
@@TheAnonymousKnightOfJustice more or less china aim at indonesian bureaucrazy that still can be bribed with their enormous power of political gain.. as in example Pres. Jokowi have stated for foreign chinese mining companies to build smelter in indonesia, somehow those still can imported millions tons of raw material ...
I dont think so about that, my guess is there are too many individual in our government playing for each side, either its for the China or Western, thats why they are not too afraid playing around in Natuna.
It's worth noting and repeating over and over again, since no one seems to notice its importance (even among Indonesian watchers): UNCLOS is basically the entire legal basis to Indonesia's "inner sea territory" and its recognition as archipelago state. Which is why even if it doesn't directly influence Indonesia, if there's case of UNCLOS violation, Indonesia would be one of the first responder to condemn such violations, as what happened later with respect to Phillipine, which angered China (event after this video's timeline).
UNCLOS is basically one of key pillars to Indonesia's territorial sovereignty, and China only realized this Indonesia's "red line" in the last few years, which is why lately they switched strategy from blatant disregard of UNCLOS to trying to be more accommodating and instead opt for its reinterpretation favorable to itself.
Jangan percaya sama hoax bang
Ini channel mau membelokkan opini masyarakat Indonesia.
mereka tidak tau Indonesia lama dijajah menggunakan taktik adu domba dan memecah belah.
dipikirnya Indonesia bisa dengan mudah dijadikan proxy mereka dan berperang di laut cina selatan 😂
dipikirannya mereka Indonesia to lol kayak ukraina 😅
bentrok di laut dengan kapal cina memang beberapa kali terjadi, tapi TNI dan pemerintah Indonesia bisa menyelesaikan masalahnya sendiri 👍🏻
ndak perlu 'mereka' sok sok ikut campur dengan masalah NKRI
@@hellogoodbyestaysavage6283yep 👍🏻
@@hellogoodbyestaysavage6283 bisa menyelesaikan masalahnya sendiri, tapi si panda merah tetep nyari ribut terus menerus di Natuna. Fakta sebegini terang yang disalahin negara lain dianggap pemecah belah, logika mikir dikit lahh wkwkwkwk
@@Lekurishkun jangan lupa ini channel dari belanda
maksudnya apa bikin info yang SALAH soal sikap Indonesia soal ukraina dan rusia di video ini,
soal batas laut, soal unclos dan katanya Indonesia meng-ANEKSASI Natuna
KAU BUTAKAH??
@@Lekurishkun KAU BUTA DAN TULIKAH BLOK?
kalo hidupmu kurang informasi, mending diam aja atau sekolah lagi sono biar ndak ketauan go bloknya 😜
China is playing with fire by testing the limits of the Indonesian people, and I understand how powerful Indonesians can be.
People are brainwashed too easily. As a China citizen, I can tell you clearly that most China people only care about the broken Philippine ship. As for Indonesia, we don't think there is any dispute between them. And your government is also the most supportive leader of the South China Sea Code of Conduct in ASEAN. What I want to say is that the media is deliberately playing off Indonesian stance on China. Smart people should not easily let populist ideas replace rational thinking.😅
No..China is not playing with fire.
It all begun in 2009, with US surrounding China with military bases and carrier groups..
No Superpower allows another surrounding them in their backyard..
It's definitive China will continue doing this until US gets booted out.
Read history, all Superpowers will boss their region
嘿嘿嘿，这牛逼吹的，😂😂😂骑驴看唱本。。。
what could indonesia do to china? war?
@@kimeliyes, because I'm fed up with China's bullcrap
Increasing military strength is the best choice for Indonesia. Navy and air force must be increased many times. war isn't good thing but at least we are ready to face it.
Perang menghadapi Amerika di papua
@@SrionoRealmi-qx6mr Amerika gak tertarik bikin masalah di Papua kalau itu hanya bakal bikin Indonesia merapat ke China. Saat ini yang Amerika butuhkan adalah menjaga posisi Indonesia di status quo atau kalau bisa merapat kembali ke AS kayak jaman Soeharto dulu.
Jangan percaya sama hoax bang
Ini channel mau membelokkan opini masyarakat Indonesia.
mereka tidak tau Indonesia lama dijajah menggunakan taktik adu domba dan memecah belah.
dipikirnya Indonesia bisa dengan mudah dijadikan proxy mereka dan berperang di laut cina selatan 😂
dipikirannya mereka Indonesia to lol kayak ukraina 😅
bentrok di laut dengan kapal cina memang beberapa kali terjadi, tapi TNI dan pemerintah Indonesia bisa menyelesaikan masalahnya sendiri 👍🏻
ndak perlu 'mereka' sok sok ikut campur dengan masalah NKRI
Netizen Indonesia harus pintar men filter informasi dari sosmed yaa👍🏻
@@ignatiusryd2031lu goblok apa gmn . Lu kira opm dkk itu dana nya dr mana . Baca sejarah bos gmn cara us dkk kl mau nya mereka gak di ikut in. Lo kira kenapa mereka masang base keliling indo dr australi singapore skrg terbaru png . Jangan buta se bahaya2 nya china jauh lebih bahaya us
Absolutely! Military strength is one of vital component for diplomacy & negotiation.
KOREKSI INDONESIA TIDAK PERNAH MENG ANEKSASI NATUNA.......NATUNA DARI AWAL MILIK KESULTANAN RIAU LINGGA INDONESIA.......HARAP DI KOREKSI NARASI ANDA BERBAHAYA
Betul... Sejak awal wilayah natuna gak pernah dipermasalahan oleh siapapun termasuk malaysia.
Lah ini china, bermil mil jauhnya bisa bisa ngeklaim 😂😂
Hanya orang bodoh yg tiggl di indonesia yg mengklaim suku atau etnis dia yg paling kuat anda melayu ingat jawa ada sunda ada bugis ada jika anda menolak persatuan indonesia maka anda menggugat suatu bangsa atas suku🦗🤏
@@jeffry8980 bermil mil ? klo bermil-mil itu terdengar masih dekat bro.
Ini bukan bermil-mil tapi ribuan mil.
Media mereka mengatakan Natuna merupakan salah satu pulau yang dimiliki oleh kekuasaan masa lalu Dinasti Song/Ming 🗿
Biasa lah media barat 😂
Terbaik Indonesia, Indonesia memang berani orangnya. Jiwa pejuang. Salam dari Malaysia 🇲🇾.
Makanya orang Malay jgn sok keras dengan orang Indonesia yang mampu merdeka karena menang perang mengusir Jepang dan Belanda bukan di beri Hadiah.China aja di lawan sama Indonesia apalagi cuma Malaysia !
@@sahrulapriza🤡 Tolol anda. Orang baik baik memuji negara dan rakyat anda, anda malah balas dengan hinaan.
@@sahrulaprizamakanya belajar sejarah juga, malaysia itu bukan pemberian semata-mata dari inggris. tapi hasil perjuangan dalam menuntut kemerdekaan secara aman tanpa pertumpahan darah. cara itu lebih baik demi menjaga kedaulatan sultan dan institusi diraja di tanah melayu sehingga hari ini
@@sahrulapriza apa punya pemikiran ni...sudah diberi pujian lagi dibalas dengan provokasi...
@@sahrulapriza comment terbodoh, malu cuy
Indonesia is the Great Country of Southeast Asia!
please dont' make too much fuss about it.
Indonesia does not like flexing. We just want to keep humble and trade.
@@gendoruwo6322 STFU, we literally the strongest country in the region. Nothing wrong if someone happy with that, don't be a KAREN
Good on Indonesia for defending what is rightfully theirs. Do not let China bully you out or they will only get worse.
China is really pushing it this time. Indonesia has always been a neutral party when it comes to the conflict between China and other Southeast Asian countries like Vietnam and the Philippines over the Nine-Dash Line because we’re so concerned about our bilateral relations with our largest investors, but now they’re encroaching on the North Natuna Sea then Indonesia has no choice but to move closer to the side of our ASEAN neighbors.
Jangan percaya sama hoax bang
Ini channel mau membelokkan opini masyarakat Indonesia.
mereka tidak tau Indonesia lama dijajah menggunakan taktik adu domba dan memecah belah.
dipikirnya Indonesia bisa dengan mudah dijadikan proxy mereka dan berperang di laut cina selatan 😂
dipikirannya mereka Indonesia to lol kayak ukraina 😅
bentrok di laut dengan kapal cina memang beberapa kali terjadi, tapi TNI dan pemerintah Indonesia bisa menyelesaikan masalahnya sendiri 👍🏻
ndak perlu 'mereka' sok sok ikut campur dengan masalah NKRI
@@hellogoodbyestaysavage6283 ngepet lu
@@sakhimithaliu2272 ndak perlu emosi bang. 👍🏻 anda nanti kliatan kampungan soalnya.
tolong anda 'berpikirlah'
gunakan fakta dan hati hati dengan informasi yang dipotong potong seperti di video ini. karena jelas jelas 'mereka' ingin membelokkan opini publik.
@@hellogoodbyestaysavage6283 if you've been to Natuna and the surrounding islands then you'd know the woes of the locals who have to deal with the Chinese patrol. It's them who the government need to worry about, not you, idling about in front of your screen. The government wouldn't build structures in the North Natuna Sea and the president wouldn't have made the visit if everything was fine. It was a big gesture because Indonesia needs to let China know that we're not backing off on the matter. Diplomatic moves are made in secret between the two countries but it's also important for Indonesia to signal to the world that it's not going to back down on what's been ratified under international laws.
@@arivanuaranu I AM from Natuna
Itu milik Indonesia,,saya sebagai warga natuna dan masyarakat natuna siap perang ,,bila negara asing mengusik nya,,,
Jawa kami udah gak tahan pengin perang siap dikirim ke pulau terpenci
Kalau mau perang......
Harus bnyak per sedian rudal dlu. Karena zaman sekarang klo perang mainnya Rudal bukan pistol😂😂😂
@@yogasetiaonemalaysia negara kafir
Para bocil epep sudah komen.,
😂😂
@@user-hl7tf1qr3ssalah semua....
While China is Indonesia largest trading partner.
China also knows not to push their luck as more than half of all their export and Import goes through the Malacca strait. And if Indonesia starts blockading Chinese ships it would hurt themselves more.
We also own 2 deep sea routes in the eastern side of the archipelago. If we use an embargo and ban chinese cargo ships, while their small cargo ship can go in malaysia's side of malacca strait, their big ship that should use the deep sea route should go around papua new guinea and to north australia then go west.
@@Enseaclopedia i don't think they will able to pass through malaysian side either. Don't forget that indonesia is de facto leader of asean. Asean countries will do their bussiness by first looking at indonesia.
Before indonesia's standoff with china where photo of president jokowi stand on top of indonesia's warship taken, other south east asian countries that conflicting with china take the compromising policy to avoid conflict with china. After that standoff hapened, vietnam, philipine and malaysia change their policy to confronting chinese government. In this topic, vietnam and philipine directly confronting china
So, if indonesia blocading indonesia's side of malaka strait, malaysia will likely to block their side too
Not if the war is escalated significantly, no one knows if China will invade Indonesia just to take over the mallaca strait, in this case China will definitely win
@@Enseaclopedia or they'll buy Thailand and build kra canal, it'll doom the mallaca strait as an important trade route
@@_martian101 No they wont, the U.S. Navy would love for the PLAN to be stupid enough to try that
China is really sneaky on this issue. On one press con, China MFA didn't dispute Indonesia's Natuna island status but at the same time said it has fishing right in waters near Natuna as they called it "a traditional fishing ground". For now, China is a bit backing off in that area only to realise if they push Indonesia too hard, Jakarta would have no option but to become fully pledged US Allies like the Philippines. But you never know. China can also use their investment in Indonesia to suppress Jakarta on this issue.
riezan : Are you a Indonisian? If yes, you might be interested in Zheng He. Zheng is highly respected and even worshipped by many countries. Yet according to Chinese books, you should not, because the Chinese books reported that whenever Zheng visited you, he demanded that your king to go to the sea shore to meet him. Upon meeting, your king kowtowed and prostrated him. Do you believe this kind of protocol to be history?
NAH
@@michelle-nm2jk : Say something, please. Do you believe Zheng He's voyages to be history?
@@legpol What's the relevancy of zheng he & present geopolitical tension here??
There no claim china in natuna, but sometime china fisher took fish in natuna zee, thats why sometime indonesia navy patrolly in natuna(zee) sea
Sometime, China thinks that only they have Tradtions, Ancestors & Civilisational History on this planet
No..China doesn't think that..
China knows the culture of ASEAN..you are talking about countries that lived together for 6000 years human history..
It's only political purposes China does this.. it's what all Superpowers do..overlord their backyard
As Chinese descendants, I'd say chinese have nasty tendency of greed once the person have taste of easy money/power or any shortcut to money/power, worsen with unhinged vanity over the power trip. Few and fewer hardworking chinese that are respectable as they have dignity and pride over result of their years of hardwork
dalam sejarah china tidak bisa menduduki wilayah Indonesia, pada masa kerajaan pun bangsa mongol china di pecundangi di tanah nusantara oleh Kerajaan Majapahit.
begitupun di era sekarang ada banyak kejadian kelam di Indonesia terutama tentang pembantaian etnis China di Indonesia pada era presiden ke 2. bahkan di beberapa tahun terakhir china melecehkan beberapa negara asean mereka hanya bisa diam tapi saat masuk wilayah Indonesia mereka tidak bisa berkutik.
jika china memusuhi Indonesia ini menjadi kerugian besar karena Indonesia mitra dagang terbesar mereka. dan pasokan sumber daya batubara china dari Indonesia. ini sama saja china bunuh diri
@@user-sc6bf3vz2h ini fakta kah bro? Gmn ceritanya kerajaan majapahit mengalahkan pasukan mongolia yg begitu bar bar?
@@miagarudacuycoybuku sejarah ada, tinggal baca. Tentang Singosari
Indonesia, guide your Natuna Islands very well. We have lost Bajo de Masinloc (Scarborough Shoal) in the Philippines from China only 10 years ago because we didn't care enough.
Natuna is not an under developed remote island 😂
i live in Natuna
there are a lot of City and citizens in Natuna
you should finds lots of video of Natuna on yt
don't worry about it 🤙🏼
People are brainwashed too easily. As a China citizen, I can tell you clearly that most China people only care about the broken Philippine ship. As for Indonesia, we don't think there is any dispute between them. And your government is also the most supportive leader of the South China Sea Code of Conduct in ASEAN. What I want to say is that the media is deliberately playing off Indonesian stance on China. Smart people should not easily let populist ideas replace rational thinking.
What China do to u?
Natuna is Base of Navy indonesian military
@@dyyymimolyChina claimed the EEZ of the Filipino
Asean should support this claim by Indonesia. It is rightfully theirs. Stand strong, Indonesian brothers and sisters! 👊 🇮🇩🇵🇭
Thankyou my bro Philippines, love u and peace from Indonesia 🇮🇩❤️🇵🇭
Filipinos support indonesia. NO TO CHINA
Indonesia support china 🇲🇨🤝🏽🇨🇳
@@bl4ckb3llbalek ke beijing sana lu wumao
@@Sledgeofhand loh ngapain? Org support koq ya bebas apa hub nya mesti ke beijing?
We love China....
@@bl4ckb3llbendera lo aja masih salah dongo!
and little bit interesting detail:
the oil company that indonesia make contract to drill there is Zarubezhneft russian federation state company, basicly rusia (which is chinese close ally) acknowladge that its indonesian teritory, and if china try to sabotage the drilling, they risk the live of rusian citizen that work there too,
indonesia is not that strong in military, but smart.
benar sekali, Indonesia walaupun tidak bisa mengimbangi china tapi secara politik cerdas, Indonesia non blok dan berteman dengan siapa saja dan mempunyai wilayah strategis.. jika ada masalah dengan Indonesia tidak akan menjerumus lebih sampai angkat senjata.. sudah pasti negara lain akan menentang dan membela Indonesia
so... you see why we given that drilling bloc to a Russian company? 🤣
We support you, Indonesia!!!! ❤️❤️❤️
Mymen ❤
China playing with danger, ethnic chinese will disappear in South East Asia.
Ok
Thanks
Finally, thank you for bringing up this topic because other youtuber don't count Indonesia when they're talking about territorial dispute within South China Sea
It is, some how western media don't wanted to talk about it. It's impossible they didn't know this. Or there's conspiracy theories where both west (US/EU) [Gold Mines] and east (CN)[Nickel Mine] have some aggrement where all of them have an aggrement to squeeze Indonesia natural resources through corrupt political elite.
Bukn ny ngk d anggep tpi mmang natuna jrang ad dlm konflik, utra dri natuna lbh sring d msukin nlayn cina, tpi jrang yg smpe laut ntuna
@@ontowiryo4952gunakan lah kosa kata bahasa Indonesia dengan baik
Because Indonesia has no dispute in south china sea dude....
@@chvhndrtntlr3482 indeed we don't, but china does and they take miles from their territory into indonesia controlled zone.
Sejak kejadian itu lalu di akhir tahun 2019 pemerintah china resmi mengharamkan coast guard-nya untuk memasuki teritori indonesia. Sudah clear!!!
Kami negara netral, sejauh jalur mediasi masih bisa disepakati disitu masalah selesai.
Jangan pecah belah negara-negara asia!!
*OMONG KOSONG* , nyatanya Januari 2023 Kapal Coast Guard China terbesar wira wiri di laut Natuna. Kemungkinan media Indonesia sengaja gak memberitakan aja karena nanti malu sendiri ternyata China sama sekali tak gentar dgn gertak sambal Indonesia.
@@benmaximilan14 tidak sampai masuk laut natuna utara kapal CCG beda tahun 2019 sudah masuk radar wilayah kedaulatan RI makanya diberi peringatan secara lisan.
@@mamunarifin7684 Fakta di berita nasional Indonesia memang kapal coast guard *terbesar di dunia itu sudah masuk Laut Natuna Utara* . Ngaku aja susah amat sih…
@@benmaximilan14 tidak sampai masuk teritori bung! Namanya coast guard ya berjaga di perbatasan dan sebaliknya indonesia jg gitu berjaga di perbatasan. Kalo pun ketemu ya selagi masih di luar batas ZEE hanya bisa saling mengawasi. Btw ladang gas tengah laut natuna hampir di titik terluar ZEE.
@@mamunarifin7684 Masuk bang, ini pernah dibahas dalam diskusi CSIS
4:42 Incorrect. Indonesian government has publicly condemn Russian invasion on Ukraine since the war started in February 2022.
But because Indonesia is one of the founders and leaders of Non-aligned movement, Indonesia is remain neutral, not choosing any of both sides, only chose peace. That's why Indonesian president is the FIRST and ONLY of world's leaders who met Zelensky (29 June 2022) and Putin (30 June 2022) during war in Ukraine, and he offered himself as brigde for peace discussion. The rest is up to Ukraine, NATO and Russia.
Unfortunately for Indonesia, both Ukraine and Russia snubs Indonesia's offer. Zelensky would not stop untill Ukraine can reclaim all of Ukraine's territories including those who were illegally annexed by Russia in 2014, while Putin himself also would not want to stop untill he can install a pro-russia puppet regime in Ukraine or completely annexing every bit part of Ukraine.
@@TrasLrasgo bloknya otak kau itu
gatal sekali mau tam par muka kau
Kalo pemerintah bersekutu dengan salah satu pihak justru akan memperburuk situasi yang sudah ada.
Mendukung aukus akan menjadikan Indonesia sbg proxy sekutu barat
Mendukung cina juga memperburuk hubungan Indonesia dgn papua nugini dan australia kkarena kedua negara ini adalah sekutu barat
Itulah faktanya hingga sekarang pemerintah Indonesia tetap netral dan malah lebih waspada karena adanya aukus
To lol kau
@@TrasLrasIf you think about World War, of course we would join the fight against whoever making trouble with us. World War is different war with Cold War.
But if you think about cold war, you clearly underestimated Indonesia, it's the opposite. Nobody would messing with a neutral country like Indonesia today, considering we have the world's most important straits, world's most important resources and have a quite strong navy. Whoever against us in cold war, will get the biggest lost.
@@TrasLrasAukus will not dare wage war against China
Aukus is paper tiger just like NATO😂
@@mochamadfarid5721 Palestine and other Arab countries are the paper tiger
We Indonesians are full of wars or invasions and invasions The fighting spirit of the Indonesian people should not be doubted anymore
We are ready to fight to the last drop of blood
Yet most of the province and island still occupied by the javanese communist government.
Indonesia has created a national defense program called trident defense by the Indonesian defense minister and is now realizing this
@@hanspetra7949 A tactical against separatist? Lmao
We'll see what the next government will do
@@hanspetra7949 Next government will debunk jokowi populist infrastructure. Rupiah will stay top 10 lowest currency and 48% without a job. Separatism movement will soar in every corner
5:55 that's badass ngl, other ASEAN countries wouldn't even dream of confronting china like that
Of course. They are the highest number of population in ASEAN. Others won't stand a chance as china is one of the biggest country and has the highest population. I think after India and rusia, Indonesia is the only country who has the highest population who share borders with china. The same numbers of population with the USA. If the USA can confront china, logically Indonesia should be able too.
@@eclipse221077 we don't share any borders with China
@@Himmler_SS So china claim is false upon this border dispute.
@@eclipse221077 No false..Chinese invented paper and map the region out before everyone else..
But don't worry.. it's just political.. it's not invasion
@@Himmler_SSbut Chinese claim EEZ of Indonesia as theirs
Our President still maintaining good relationship with China while he ordered his generals to start training with the US military, the massage are very clear as daylight : We prefer to be friend with China but if China chose to continue the disputes We won't hesitate to switch side. Turn on dime for our own advantages was an old game play by our ancestors, back when the Chinese still ruled by the mighty Mongols 😁🤙
@@night-corephilippines4171 asking america to help you is like asking bunch of wolves to protect you from hyenas, it will bite you in the ass one day, the only way for phillipines not become ukraine 2.0 is by standing side by side with their neighbouring states.
Indonesia trully.need to make it'S maritim power to be upgrade , both quality and quantity🙄
@@dualsoul7398this is true, the navy is in a sorry state, but to be fair the army and air force is well equipped with new acquisitions
@@dualsoul7398 yes we need to consolidate our power to become thallassocratic empire but what we have is just bunch of stupid rats in suits in the government who invest our power on "landbased" army when our territories is mostly "waters" because it is an archipelago nation,if animals could speak we will be laughed at by basically every animals in the animal's kingodm.
Indonesia started exploited Natuna gas & oil reserves this year, ignoring China protest. We don't care about China investment because most of their biggest investment was on the mining sectors. The Chinese need our resources as much as we need their investment, if they withdraw their investment from Us it would be a blessing. Those mining factory & smelters that the Chinese already build would be ours, as for the debts there's a row of western financial institutions ready to bailout as long Indonesia free from China influence. The Malaca straits are the choke point for China trades, Indonesia shifting side to the west would devastated for China and we know they won't risk it. 😁
Chinese ships have never been seen again in the waters of the North Natuna Exclusive Economic zone, good work for the Indonesian army and also the government, if China plays with Indonesia, Indonesia will only have to stop supplying coal to China, that way China's industry will be disrupted, their economy will suffer.
Their ancestor give heavy defeat & expelled China yuan dynasty from their country. Today China come again but this time they not claim the land instead they claim the sea.
Let's pray for Indonesia to repeat the glory history again & make their ancestor proud
Yuan are mongols
Because of this, Indonesia is modernizing its military strength, strengthening sea, air and land defenses, .. standing up against Chinese aggression in the South Natuna Sea..
Can you continue to make videos about this conflict between China and Indonesia on the Natuna Sea? Thanks for the great video!!
Just go to war coward
Jangan percaya sama hoax bang
Ini channel mau membelokkan opini masyarakat Indonesia.
mereka tidak tau Indonesia lama dijajah menggunakan taktik adu domba dan memecah belah.
dipikirnya Indonesia bisa dengan mudah dijadikan proxy mereka dan berperang di laut cina selatan 😂
dipikirannya mereka Indonesia to lol kayak ukraina 😅
bentrok di laut dengan kapal cina memang beberapa kali terjadi, tapi TNI dan pemerintah Indonesia bisa menyelesaikan masalahnya sendiri 👍🏻
ndak perlu 'mereka' sok sok ikut campur dengan masalah NKRI
Netizen Indonesia harus pintar men filter informasi dari sosmed yaa👍🏻
@@hellogoodbyestaysavage6283 terima kasih, akhirnya ada yg komen seperti ini..ini media belanda. anggota EU. bahas sejarah kita aja masih belepotan. geng mereka memang lagi fokus ke LCS. tapi saya rasa gak lewat natuna. tapi lewat sebelah timur. kalau pemerintah lamban ngurusnya, wilayah itu nanti bisa lepas. mereka bakal pasang base disana. lcs cuma gertakan cina supaya geng biru gak terlalu mendekat wilayahnya. dan china gak akan pernah nyerang kita. karena sejarah dagang antar negara sudah berlangsung ratusan tahun
@@hellogoodbyestaysavage6283apaan? Indonesia dijajah gara2 khilafah... gara2 port besar nusantara dikuasai orang Islam melayu kaya cirebon, betawi, banten,aceh,johor... sampai sekrang pun mereka yang suka bikin ribut di negara...
Orang Sunda-Bali itu tau sejarah karna rajanya tidak takluk dan tidak pindah ke Islam..
Dan jawa itu bukan orang2 majapahit, mereka itu orang jawi melayu arab. Karna majaphit menggunakan huruf kawi, sedangkan orang jawa itu menggunakan huruf jawi.
Dulu orang Sunda dan Bali bilang orang jawi...
Kita gapernah bermusuhan dengan barat cuma islam aja yg memusuhi barat.
Is it just me or have contents about Indonesia been more popular than ever these past days?
Funny, that Malaysia/Singapore/Brunei don't have any problem respecting the boundaries nor they actively trying to provoke Indonesia (including protest) about North Natuna Sea. It is always China (that just ssooooo far away) that keep this provoking attitude.
I think the whole ASEAN should be more concern about this. I mean, if China able to take Natuna Sea, then it is not impossible it would do the same to other ASEAN waters. especially, Indonesia is the biggest country in ASEAN.
Vietnam, Malaysia, Philippines, and Brunei also have the problem with china in south china sea. the latest news I heard, Vietnam banned new barbie movie because in that movie, they mentioned something about south china sea (including sea near Vietnam) are belong to china.
No, Indonesia no longer has any border disputes with singapore and the area in western malaysia. We have disputes in ambalat, eastern malaysia, Eastside of the Borneo.
Everytime fisherman crossing illegally they're arrested by the coast guard no matter which country they're from. The most recent is vietnamese. But only china have fishermans guided by their navy/coastguard ships while illegally crossing. Ofc they'll get tension in the area.
China is the one whose weird. They're claiming sea that's far away from their land. Of course countries nearer to that sea would be angry.
Support Indonesia from Australia
south china sea belongs to vietnam, philippines, malaysia, brunei, vietnam, indonesia
*_HIDUPLAH INDONÉSIA RAYA!!!_*
Indonesia already test china limits after that problems.
I remember Jakarta make new rule to banned coal export.
That effect china crisis energy and effect other too like korea and Philippines
and that time only australia and india that has match indonesias coal production and china has sour relations with both country lmao our foreign policy is pretty smart
Indonesia is the most important strategic chain of islands. China is greedily finding ways to grab Natuna to begin with, then more and more. We can see that Natuna islands are in the Exclusive Economic Zone of Sarawak, Indonesia. China's claims of ownership has absolutely no legal basis.
As indonesian *IF YOU ARE NOT STRONG YOU CANT DEFEND YOUR HOMELAND*
Lets make good relationship with indonesia.
We love peace
9 dash line doesnt even have coordinates
That's why Indonesia is buying 2 Type 31 (UK) and 6 FREMM and 2 secondhand Maestrale (Italy).
If PRC going to launch military invasion to Natuna Islands, guess we Chinese-Indonesians must prepare ourselves from potential huge wave of Sinophobic violence here, as we mught learn from Rooftop Koreans as well.
The most likely scenario of large scale Sinophobic violence would be preceded by mass riots in front of PRC embassy.
I don't think it would happened again most of Indonesian can distinguished who is who and it's totally nonsense to do that. The PRC itself never cared for Chinese Indonesian and other overseas Chinese in the world, When crisis happened in Indonesia in 1965 and 1998 they didn't offer any help towards Indonesian Chinese. So I don't think the native Indonesian would think the Chinese Indo as agent of communist or so.
@@PissMenn i'm sorry to disappoint, most Indonesians still cannot distinguished mainland chinese and us overseas chinese who already lived here for generations.
Want a proof? Glodok was on high alert on security during Ahok drama back in 2017.
And then there was a failed terror bombing plot targetting Taman Aggrek, Central Park, and Neo Soho malls in Grogol during 2019 election, those three malls having a huge visit number from Chindo community, the perpetrator was a lecturer from IPB.
Not to mention random stone throwing incidents targetting Chinese restaurants here during peak COVID back in 2021.
Do you still think Indonesians could distinguish mainland Chinese and overseas Chinese? I don't think so!!!
I dont think China have intention to disturb indonesia. They know exactly what the consequences if they make Indonesia as their enemy. Military forces yes china much powerful than indonesia however china will suffer more than indonesia if they confront us
ASEAN must be united and grow as a Regionl Defence Organization (ASEAN Defense Forces) and start their own Nuclear Weapon
Thats a top video on the Natunas, additionally Indonesia renamed an area as North Natuna Sea, elections are coming soon, with all that going on in this region and China's aggresive posturing, could a military figure emerge as next Indonesian President?and that may play out differently....
People are brainwashed too easily. As a China citizen, I can tell you clearly that most China people only care about the broken Philippine ship. As for Indonesia, we don't think there is any dispute between them. And your government is also the most supportive leader of the South China Sea Code of Conduct in ASEAN. What I want to say is that the media is deliberately playing off Indonesian stance on China. Smart people should not easily let populist ideas replace rational thinking.
Kami yakin rakyat indonesia siap memghadapi bagi mereka yang mengganggu kedaulatan.... Hidup ato mati...
Support Indonesia from Philippines
they absolutely stealing Indonesia's Human Resources and Work Places
that is better than US and their allies stealing indonesia natural resources for near half of century, both US and china is not even an option for indonesia to survive, same flavour but different colours.
you have 63 fisherman ships and 3 guard ships?
okay, we will bring our fisherman ships on java sea to natuna sea too..
Karena Jawa adalah 🔑
North Natuna sea is Indonesian teritory,that is absolutely true, China is not archipelago state.Indonesia Will keep it always.
Indonesia under Widodo's policy are playing very smart in the world. I'm starting to love this country
We called it "Joko Widodo 4D chess move" in Indonesia. In my opinion he's the best president of our country so far.
No one helping Indonesia when Sipadan-Ligitan Island claimed by Malaysia in 2004, Western says Indonesia doesn't have asset on the Island despite beeing geographically near to Indonesian ZEE, if the war broke as Indonesian i will gladly support those who never backstab my country in the past
The case is resolved in International tribunal court I think. And people who live there is Malaysian too they speak Malay accent.
@@PissMenn it resolve not in my country favor despite geographically those island near indonesian coastal line, and the execuse is just because malay had observation tower in the island, not only that, there are also a lot of evidence of Australia giving fund to west papuan rebel terorist group alongside with dutch
@@PissMenn pfft you clearly know nothing, do you think there are not many indonesian speak the same accent as malay ?,
Congratulation, as Indonesian youtuber who very concern about this, your video is one of the best so far. Keep up the good work
Thank you ❤
We want to be friend with any nation. But if one dare to disturb our sovereignty, we will fight. We might lost but we will fight. We fight till our last blood drop. Indonesia has countless history on territorial dispute, even today we still have several mainly with malaysia. But this, this ain't a dispute. Natuna sea belongs to indonesians and it is also recognized under the UN. This is not a dispute, this is a confrontation. We thank china for their investments in our country but if they push to far, don't ever think that we would just be standing still and do nothing because we will fight. Indonesia has no allies and we can't have one based on our constitution yet if the situation worsening, then america, BRING IT ON....
ASEAN along with South Korea, Japan, Australia and US should be united to stop this bully once and for all.
We don't want USA, China is Indonesian big brother & the biggest business partner to Indonesia.
Dont need south Korea, they think they're better than any other asian countries, i've been to south korea before they look down on Asean race they think that we are below them
The 9 dash line quite conveniently crossed every neighboring EEZ.
Indonesia has always been neutral in the conflict that occurred in the Natuna Sea, but Indonesia is currently strengthening its military and Indonesia's defense is always ready under any circumstances and China, America, France, Germany, Japan and Russia are Indonesia's friends.
Indonesia's Natuna Island's Sea is demarcated according to UNCLOS. If China successfully destroys UNCLOS limits, say goodbye to Natuna's waters and natural resources. Natuna's waters falls way inside of China's dash claim which China is now patrolling inside Indonesian waters surrounding Natuna. And those dash claims of China does not have coordinates, they are just arbitrary lines on their map that moves and expands everytime they issue a new map, that means they are free to expand it, as they already have.
our country is experiencing gentle colonialism this time, instead the Indonesians themselves, will never know what imperialism means, only certain people can see it like Bung Karno or Bung Tomo. We were entrusted by Soekarno saying that imperialism had not died yet, but only dying [imperialism] at the UN in 1960. That is what we are facing now with _them_
Very meaningful, Impressive
China really want to know firsthand how communists dealt in Indonesia
Underated channel frfr.
The statement at 04:42 is completely wrong, as the Indonesian government has condemned Russia from the very beginning for annexing Ukrainian territory.
Correction ,Not south china sea
But , North Indonesia Sea 🇮🇩🤝
North Natuna sea exactly
Indonesia are a very laid back people . As long you don't mess us we are cool with everything . Yeah , china is stronger than us . But to win the war ....we don't neccesarily diing it for our self ...winks ..😊
Indonesia will always fight in their territorial sea unlike in the Philippines where chinese are not being challenge by their coastguard and navy
destroy the chinese boat
Perekonomian Indonesia telah dijajah Cina selama 9 tahun terakhir ini.
Important that ASEAN countries work together to protect its territorial water. Doing collaborative air and navy exercises in the North Natuna Sea and the rest of South East Asia. Create an ASEAN dash line south of Hainan island. In any case no international court recognises the nine dash line.
For now ASEAN is a cooperation organization between Southeast Asian countries, not a military alliance organization. We need more reasons to make ASEAN countries want to make ASEAN not only a cooperative organization but a unitary organization like the EU
Natuna island n water it's our territory, no question n no claimed area
my indonesian brother, we support you! china is a bitch! ❤ from manila 🇵🇭
what if Beijing claim Natuna is Indonesia's and Indonesia is a part of China's since ancient time :3
@@michaelwang6125 , From ancient times to the present, Natuna has never belonged to any other ancient kingdom apart from the early Malays (natuna area) until they moved to the Netherlands and then to Indonesia 🙏
@@michaelwang6125 when the hell indonesia used to be part of china's
your mother slanted eyes
Love your content man. The way you speak make me understand the content on your video. people really need to watch your content. So educative and easy to understand the issue in the world.
4:44 : You got the wrong info, Indonesia agree on UN about condemm RU-UA Wars.
the government may condemn but the people mostly support russia, we don't cares about US and their allies since they are a nations full hypocrites who wished nothing but to see indonesia fails.
this channel is on to something
very sketchy video
@@27_syndicateshquad78 probably trying to make another proxy wars between China and Indonesia,such a typical western like tactics, hopefully some wars will be fought on their very own lands so that they tasted what is like to live in a war torn country.
Why mostly big nations wanting more and more?
That's how theyre big and stay big
Because it's China. And they want the whole world.
Greed already infected them😓 ...i hope Indonesia stay humble🙂 wouldn't get affected too
@@dualsoul7398 Indonesia is the only country that have oneness of God as it's main country ideology, we will always be humble or we will get humbled by the God like most tyrant nation on earth.
That should be vietnam , malaysia, indonesian or philipin sea
We should propose to rename south china sea to asean sea.
Since kingdoms era. We have been dealing with their encroachment. Pitting one kingdom in SEA against another is one of their strategy.
IMO, the Indonesian government should take it one step further by giving some rudimentary military training to all able-bodied citizens (male and female), to gently remind China that each and every one of us are not afraid to escalate if China tried to push their luck. They may have superior military armament, but we are not the kind of people they can push around.
Semoga Indonesia maju
Why not call it 'Champa Sea'. Thats what local people named it before the Europeans.
Asean sea should be proper
@@EnseaclopediaSEA Sea.
actually good video
Indonesia people strong 💪 🇮🇩
What are you doing there China? You're too far away from your shores or your 200 nautical miles exclusive economic zone.. Fan here in the Philippines 🌴
The main reasons for war are classic, economic factors, control of natural resources
The price to be paid is very high if China forces itself to confront Indonesia regarding the Natunas
The economic damage incurred after the war will have a huge impact
China are not that stupid, they have always been good at making calculations
They do attack in chains. If theyre done on that, youre next, thats why theyre using diplomacy to invade without waging war but they can get what they want.
Philippines Supports Indonesia
To this day occasionally the indonesan military jets fly low in riau province.
There no claim china in natuna, but sometime china fisher took fish in natuna zee, thats why sometime indonesia patrolly in natuna(zee) sea
China claims what Indonesia calls north natuna sea.
@@romell06i know china claim natune zee sea dispute, but not the island.. thats the reason indonesia make militare base in natuna to patrol natuna zee
Indonesia hold a deeper roots with Asean country therefore china should be wise to know if military conflict happen around north natuna sea, china will be loosing its borderline as a neutral country, against us- australian and ever growing military bas in phillipines. Since Indonesia is mutual partner and stand in neutral between these two i think small part of nine dash line is grey area... china won't force it.. they only test how far indonesian would stand in this conflict
They (Tiongkok) will pay with blood if they push claim indonesia territory, same like Gengis Khan mongol come to Java We warrior country world must know our story.
And i forget to tell you , its not only china who keep stealing fish in this water , all the other South East Asia did it too .
They admit they stealing in Indonesia's teritorry. But Chinese claim the sea, not admit stealing. Big difference.
It’s dealing with facts rationally rather than based yr analysis on emotional issues over the Natuna island’s dispute between the parties concerned; where China & Indonesia have been working on together to work out the ongoing dispute over the fishing activities around those islands. Calling out for hostility is not the way to settle any disputes esp. when these two countries are having good economic relationships to prosper under that cooperative effort. Indonesia has much to develop & gained more from China’s financial & technological prowess which would enabled Indonesia to progress rapidly for its people’s advancement & welfare. Indonesia won’t be in its current economic trajectory without China’s cooperation to help it to move forward.! There will always be some indirect western interferences in any matters in the ASEAN region with concerted efforts to destabilize the peaceful cooperative efforts for economic progress among ASEAN countries with China today. Let’s think on facts, not on emotions.!
nope...China yesterday withdrew and declared that Natuna belongs to Indonesia... China is afraid of Indonesia but not afraid of the US... that's a fact... 😅..we are on a trade route... which threatens to be prohibited from passing... 😅😅😅
yep 👍🏻👍🏻
The Great Blocade in EU4 is not a joke
Why does China so persistently claiming this 9-dash line. What could be the final plan for the area? Is China going to build mam-made sea wall? Or man-made continent at a save distant from the mainland in case the war with US happen? Because if the 9-dash line historical claim was nothing but fishing area, I am sure Indonesia can negotiate for Chinese fisherman fishing quota there. China claim is absurd in all levels. Imagine if your neighbour from the next street block claim your front yard because he sometimes hangout there? Again, what is China final plan?
Vietnam, Philippines, even Indonesia... CCP's greed knows no bounds.
This is why war will bring peace and prosperity to all nations…
When humanity's gone, the earth will be truly at peace
I would support Indonesia anytime...
Hashtag is kinda wrongly spelled
If it was under malaysia teritory would be easy for china to take this island😂
I'm thinking about this as well😂
Not really
Tidak mudah cina untuk memerangi Indonesia,krn ada kekuatan besar dibelakangnya,,yaitu NATO..sbliknya tidak mudah barat memerangi Indonesia krn ada kekuatan besar diblakangnya,yaitu rusia,krn Indonesia adlh negara mitra dunia yg cinta damai.🇮🇩😍
NATO is North Atlantic Alliance. Even Ukraine has not met the requirements to join NATO, let alone Indonesia, the most corrupt country in SEA.
Punya urusan apa nato sama indonesia? Yang paling deket mah paling FPDA nya malaysia, singapura, uk, osi, nz.
NATO? Ahaha
NATO itu musuh asli indonesia , mereka yang selalu memainkan ekonomi kita.
@@Enseaclopedia Kalau China berani blunder fatal di Laut Natuna maka bisa dipastikan pemerintah Indonesia siapapun presiden/latar politiknya bakal resorting merapat ke AS/Sekutu/NATO yang sudah bisa dipastikan merugikan China. Dan hal yang sama berlaku juga kehadapan NATO/AS/Sekutu, mereka berani blunder parah di teritori Indonesia maka bisa dipastikan Indonesia bakal merapat ke China dan itu adalah skenario yg paling dihindari AS/NATO/Sekutu karena Australia + Jepang dan semua sekutu AS di Asia Tenggara bakal kerepotan setengah mati mengingat faktor Selat Malaka.
komen bodoh..!!!
It is the same thing, vietnam took amboyna cay which is inside our eez. We are expecting china to comply to the law of the sea?
Indonesia vs China EPIC
Malaysia win
@@strahnbrad3979Indonesia vs China malah Malaysia😂
@strahnbrad3979 th-cam.com/video/uvTPAVSNnx4/w-d-xo.html You Claim Malasia Lazlyy Malaydesh Malaydesh Malaydesh Malaydesh Malaydesh Malaydesh Malaydesh Malaydesh Malaydesh Malaydesh Malaydesh Malaydesh 🇧🇩🇲🇾
Borneo sabah from Philippines and help USA sabah 🇵🇭❤️🇺🇸 🤜🇲🇾👈👎
@@sleepy3158how iconic during 80 to 90 Malaysia 🇲🇾 begging for PILIPINO TEACHER to teach them how to speak English 😂😂😂
Stop being idiot or proud here ( Malaysia ) is the most weakest ASEAN during WW2 😅😅 can't even fight JAPANESE and BRITISH
@@strahnbrad3979
Malaysia has lost. The Chinese population is getting bigger on the Malay Peninsula😅