So if Cadmus created the mirror first then the stone, then I think he also created the archway in the Department of Mysteries! First the mirror to see his hearts true desire (kind of checking to see if he could eventually get over his lost love). Second the stone to try and bring her to him. And third the arch to take him to her.
I think scb have a theory from a few years ago that the threes Peverells all created an item before they created the hollows. The first brother created the mirror and as a means to get what he saw inside he created the wand. The second brother created the veil and to access the dead he could hear through it he created the stone. The third brother created the pensieve and while using it he realized how convenient it can be to be invisible so he created the cloak.
The fact that this came out at the same time as the "If Neville were the chosen one series" makes me wonder. Im not talking about in this new scenario, but heres a thought. Do you think if Neville looked into the mirror in the original lore that he would see his parents like Harry? His parents arent dead, but they can't be the parents he needs.
Neville from the beginning of the book? I could see that. Though, if I had to guess what Year 1 Neville's Greatest Desire was, I would say it wasn't for his parents to not be vegetables in a hospital. No, I would think it would be similar to Ron's Greatest Desire. I think Year 1 Neville's Greatest Desire was to make his parents proud; to become every bit the Wizard his Father was and live up to his Father's Legacy. I believe if Year 1 Neville would have looked at the Mirror of Erised, he would have seen himself as a powerful and confident Auror, if not Head Auror. But I think Neville is the poster boy for why the Mirror of Erised is so dangerous and bad. Neville would have never gotten anywhere close to being a confident Auror if he had seen it in the Mirror because, as Dumbledore said, he would have just wasted away staring at the Mirror. But because Neville never saw the Mirror, he actually achieved his heart's greatest desire. By the end of the series, he had become a very confident wizard who fights against dark magic. He had, basically, become an Auror, just without the title and pay. But also, through his journey, he found a new desire: Herbology. And I think that's the true danger of the Mirror of Erised. The Mirror of Erised locks you into what your current heart's desire is. In doing so, it prevents you from discovering new desires. One of the greatest strengths of humanity is our adaptability and flexibility. The Mirror of Erised locks the viewer into one course and, thus, robs them of their adaptability and flexibility. Or in other words, The Mirror of Erised robs the viewer of their humanity.
I think not quite the same, but similar. For Harry it was simply the presence of his parents and extended family that he really wanted. For Neville it's his parents specifically being active patents of him - more about the actions
Would be really interesting meeting a boggart. Like... how many people are actually aware of their greatest fear? How do you quantify fear? How many actually have a THING they are scared of, rather than let's say being ostracized, alone, abandoned, never receiving their Hogwarts letter etc. How would a boggart even try to become something like loneliness?
Maybe friends or family giving you the cold shoulder? I guess most abstract fears have physical components to them. Like, I'm scared of death and loneliness and losing control, but those can be manifested in a lot of ways. Natural disasters, illness, people ignoring me...
1st: boggard does not target the greatest fear, it targets any fear that current victim is aware of. 2nd: loneliness? IMO, you are afraid it, only if you have it. So it will probably transform to yourself. But more interesting question would be: how exactly you fight it, how exactly ridikkulous make it laughing matter!
About half a year ago I realised exactly what would be shown due to it coming close to home. The death of a specific loved one. Basically the same as Molly
That's a question I've always had. In the book, the fears are always of some concrete thing. But there are many other fears. And what if your greatest fear is a desk with papers on it?
Personally I think the mirror was even more dangerous for Harry than Ron. What Ron seen in the mirror was possible, he could use that image as inspiration to one day acquire that desire. Harry on the other hand can never have what his heart desires. The only way he can see his parents at his side is gazing into the mirror. The fact he comes back night after night shows how it had already sunk its hooks into him but Ron didn't return with him again.
What Ron saw was basically recognition, being seen for his accomplishments. He was the last of many brothers only because his mother really wanted a daughter, so he is stuck between several older brothers who have a lot more going on than he does and the one child his mother actually wanted, he is the "mistake" and he doesn't want to be seen as such. He elaborates it in the way a kid just starting school would, all in a school environment, but ultimately it's the desire to be seen and recognized for the cool important things he can do, instead of being set aside because he doesn't tame dragons or isn't a girl.
SCB: We have a theory about who created an ageless magic artifact in the HP Universe. Fans: It's the Peverells isn't it. SCB: It's the Peverells. ... Fans: Never change guys.
I think it would make for a lame story if they did in fact create all those ageless artifacts, especially because if they were THIS good, it would've been more widespread and they would've gotten credit in modern times for it. I have no problem with Dumbledore's theory that the brothers created the Hallows, but i believe it makes way more sense to think that the Peverell's simply observed/studied those ancient artifacts (the Veil, the Mirror and the Pensieve) and took inspiration from them to eventually create the Deathly Hallows, which in itself already is an absurd feat.
@@m1xd2323 not necessarily, because each brother has reasons for inventing them. But even if they did it doesn't take away that other inventions didn't come from Peverell's; the sorcerers/philosophers stone, the deluminator, brooms, any number of different creatures.
@@m1xd2323 the main reason this happens is because that's the only likely conclusion with the information we have. If there was more lore about other great wizards with (as powerscalers like to say) the appropriate feats, I'm sure they'd be more than happy to choose someone else. At the end of the day they're making theories with limited evidence. And theory channels can't just say "maybe someone the lore hasn't revealed made the thing". I'd say it's already impressive that they can provide some evidence with somewhat reasonable assumptions (though I do think some of their theories don't quite manage it).
So, if defeating the mirror requires sadness or sorrow when shown the thing that your heart desires most, would that explain why Harry was able to "defeat" it and get the sorcerer's stone in the first book, since what he most desired was his parents but this caused great sadness because they weren't really there (and having the sorcerer's stone wouldn't bring them back, so he wouldn't want to use it, allowing him to get it from the mirror)?
@Jonathan Kelly It's much simpler than that. And it has nothing to do with Harry "defeating" the Mirror of Erised. Dumbledore actually tells us exactly how Harry acquired the Philosopher's Stone. And it has everything to do with the enchantment that Dumbledore himself placed on the Mirror: "Only the person who wants to acquire the Stone, acquire but not use it, can actually retrieve the Stone from the Mirror." Yes it's really THAT simple. Harry's only desire, at that point, was to prevent Quirrell from getting the Stone. He never had any desire to actually use the Stone. That's why the Mirror gave it to Harry. Because he satisfied the requirements of Dumbledore's enchantment.
No, Harry was able to "defeat it" because Dumbledore had designed it so that only soemone that wouldn't want to use the Stone would be able to retrieve it. That makes for a very short list, with possibly 3-4 people at Hogwarts matching that criteria. These guys are just guessing at everything. Sometimes they have solid theories, sometimes they're so far off the mark it makes my head spin.
The despair due to the thing you see is a defence against the mirror in general, because it's a reminder that what you see is not real. I think it's similar to boggarts in the regard that simple laughter does not destroy it and simple sadness/despair wouldn't break the mirror, but pure anguish would probably incinerate the mirror if this theory is true.
A huge flaw that always bothered me about Dumbledore's set up to get the Stone. "Only someone who wanted the stone but not use it could get it". If Quirrel wanted the stone not to use, but to give it away (to his master), it should still have worked for him.
I've always thought the same!! The argument that giving it to Voldemort was still "using it" never clicked for me, although someone gave a different reason that did make more sense - to me, at least - the idea was that, since Voldemort's essence was within Quirrel, and Voldy was the one who wanted to use it, that created a barrier to Quirrel actually obtaining the stone. He gets halfway - sees himself holding it, like Harry does, rather than seeing himself making the elixir of life or handing it to Voldemort - but he's not able to get to the finish line and pull it from the mirror.
Also I can’t believe that anybody who would try and get the stone for Voldy would be pure enough to not have a small part of themselves that would like to use the stone for themselves. Maybe people like Bellatrix or Barty jr but if wanting to give it to Voldy so he can use it counts then that stops them as well.
Ever since I've read the first book, I've thought that Dumbledore's explanation of how Harry got the stone was a lie. It doesn't make sense for several reasons. First, as @JockenN pointed out, Harry didn't want the stone for himself, but neither did Quirrell. Second, Erised is an enchanted mirror that shows what you desire. That's what it does. So how is it also a safe that can only be unlocked by the pure-of-heart? That's a totally different function. And how did Dumbledore put the stone in the mirror? Either you can just insert objects into the mirror, a function which somehow no one else had discovered (and surely a lot of people would want to go into the mirror, or else pass messages or objects into it), or else a spell was used to make the mirror serve a function for which it was not originally intended. So I think Dumbledore used a spell to hide the stone in the mirror, and set it so that only he, Harry, and perhaps a few trusted others could retrieve the stone. The reason he _lied_ about this is because he didn't want Harry to know he was the Chosen One yet.
I would add the book that records all the names of witch and wizard candidates for Hogwarts. And the Sorting Hat. As much as we know about these artifacts, and the fact that they were around much later than the veil, mirror, and pensieve, we still don't know much about them.
@@ginnyjollykiddexcept we do know that the sorting hat at least was created by the founders. It’s directly mentioned in one of the books that the sorting hat was Godrick’s. Idk about the book and quil, but those are also most likely created by the founders.
@@nondominis4359 actually I believe that there is already theory about that on the channel. I am not sure but i kinda recall that while Sorting Hat was Godrick's invention, the Book and Quill were Helga's.
I wonder if it's possible to theorize about people's Mirror of Erised visions and their Boggarts, similar to theorizing about Patronuses. I think Snape's Boggart is a shampoo bottle. It's "pretty obvious".
Gonna be honest, I prefer the theory you guys made a while ago indirectly addressing this. Where, yes, the Peverill brothers made other, more rudimentary versions of the hallows. But there, it was the first brother, Antioch, who made the Mirror of Erised, Cadmus who made the veil in the Department of Mysteries, and Ignotus who made the pensive. The mirror shows you your hearts deepest desire, and the Elder Wand is a way to achieve that desire. The veil is a one way trip to death, and the Resurrection Stone is a way to bring someone back from the dead (duh). The pensive is a way to go back into the past and exist completely invisibly, and then cloak allows you to do that in the present.
This also explains why Dumbledore had the mirror and how he knew the Peverell brothers created the hallows. He had been collecting and studying their other inventions.
this was such a brilliant and heart-wrenching theory. the second Peverell brother’s desperate search for a way to bring his beloved back hurts in all the right places, and everything he possibly created in his many attempts to do so is just so sad. my favorite theory yet!
That’s a great point about the Mirror and boggarts. There’s nothing in the books about just how long a boggart lives, but since they’re non-physical like a ghost they might very well be immortal and if magically harnessed in a device like the Mirror i could see them staying forever.
House- hat stall of Slytherin and Hufflepuff Patronus- Sloth Boggart- I was recently bit on the face by a dog I was pet sitting, so seeing that dog lunging at my face is probably my boggart right now Mirror- me on my animal sanctuary, finally happy, cuddling all the animals I’ll rescue, not a care in the world
Ron got his heart's desire in one of the later books didn't he? Or close to it anyway. He was a prefect and might have become Head Boy if he hadn't dropped out between his sixth & seventh years, and he was on the Quidditch team and won the cup, even if he wasn't captain. Won the House Cup too.
Hey, this got me thinking about the Cloak of Invisibility and how it was made. What if it has Thestral hair woven into its fabric? Think about it. Dumbledore was able to see through it because he saw his sister die.
Unlikely, otherwise it would be a pretty useless cloak. Besides, Snape couldn't see through it despite being a Death Eater for many years. Also, Dumbledore had been studying it for quite some time and likely knew how to recognize it. Though, it may be a blend of Demiguise fur and Thestral hair...
This is explained in the Fantastic Beasts book. The demiguise is a magical creature that can make itself invisible when it feels threatened. The invisibility cloak itself would be made of demiguise hair.
to ron it had meaning bcause he came from a big wizarding family and being the youngest boy too he alway got handmedowns, etc, never had anything he could call only his coming from such a big family.. he wanted to make a name for himself and have his own big accomplishments and attention on him whereas in his big family he often got lost in the shuffle. Its why you also see a bit of underlying jealousy sometimes with Ron and Harry where harry instantly stepped into the wizarding world getting lots of attention and fame, Rons desire makes sense when coming from the perspective of a young boy being overshadowed and lost in the shuffle. (but yea it is a bit funny at surface level like silly ron just wants to win the cup and be head boy at school lol)
To be fair, it isn’t really just the house cup. Ron was the youngest Weasley boy. Bill was a successful curse breaker, Charlie was a dragon expert, Percy was prefect and later worked in a higher position in the Ministry of Magic, and Fred and George were two of the most popular kids at school due to their mischief and positions on the Quidditch team. Even Ginny was special in a way; she was the only girl. Ron doesn’t see himself in the mirror as just holding the house cup. He’s head boy, captain of the Quidditch team, and (most importantly) CONFIDENT. He doesn’t just want to win some trophy, he wants to stand out. To be worth something.
"Instead of showing you the thing you fear the most, it shows you the thing you love the most... that can be just as dangerous" The opposite can be said about both. Boggarts can be good if you decide then and there to vanquish your fear once and for all. The mirror could be used for guidance, or something to work for and keep your eyes on. I love how in the series objects aren't just bad or just good, they're all of both. It depends on the person to take it to one extreme or the other.
Didnt you theorise that the mirror was created by the same brother as the elder wand? The mirror to show you what you want, and then the tool to get it?
Some of this sounds like Harryʼs reaction to his Patronus lessons. Part of him didnʼt want to stop having the visions the Dementors gave him because his worst memory was also his only accessible memory of his parents. And I just realize *as I type this* that if heʼd actually mentioned that to Lupin, Lupin would have borrowed Dumbledoreʼs Pensieve that year to show Harry more memories of his parents.
Looking back on your original video on who created the Pensieve, the Mirror of Erised, and the Death Veil being the creators of the Unforgivable Curses I actually think that Antioch would have created the Death Veil to somehow discern how to truly make someone dead. That would align with him creating the killing curse more so than the mirror would have shown him just knowing the spell and using it.
New video idea: A theory on why Voldemort and his crew didn’t just cast Avada Kedavra all at once during the Battle of Hogwarts. They should’ve easily and instantly won that fight.
I'd say it has something to do with how taxing it is to cast an unforgivable curse. People don;'t just throw them around,, it's that thing where you have to mean it and have a specific level of carelessness for humanity. Though I guess some death eaters would've been able to get there. Okay now I do want a theory video
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Also, they where a bit of political party, they didnt want to kill off all wizards, only a few
I think it’s because that wouldn’t have made it so exciting. There was a lot more suspense going on in the battle of Hogwarts that probably wouldn’t have happened if Voldemort just started with Avada Kedavra. If everyone just throws around Stupefy, Expelliarmus, etc, there’s more suspense. I think in both the book and movie there’s more suspense about who wins
Voldemort wanted to defeat and rule them, not to murder them. The reason he started the battle was to get Harry out of safety. If he wanted them all dead, he couldve easily done so after the battle when he brought Harrys presumaly dead body back to Hogwarts.
Here is a theory of mine i just thought: ollivander have an horucrux First, the ollivander shop is open gor more than 2000 year, it of course can be a family business but for such a long time it seems almost impossible i think, also its seems to work well with the tineline of the first person to make horucrux It can also explain why voldemort didnt kill him after he failed to explain harry's wand, act of mercy he usually doesnt show yo anyone who isnt a death eater, he cant In fact it may even explain why voldemort kidnap him in the first place, which always felt weird for me because when he did that, he didnt knew his wand and harry's wsnd shared core (which is weird but a fact i think) And it can also explain what ollivander ment when he said voldemort made horroble but great things Opinions ?
Perhaps, the same way a Boggart is defetead by not fearing what you fear... the mirror is defeated by not wanting what you want... Hence the usage of it to conceal the Stone. He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named can't help but want it. So, the mirror would never budge to him.
It feels like these videos are just getting reduced to “here’s an old magical object and since most people only know the 3 brothers, let’s say they did it”
I think this is very possible and I think a way to defeat it would be realizing that that thing is something you cannot obtain which could lead to despair and sadness
I consider myself a connoisseur of deep Potter lore, but this boggart trapped as a mirror theory blew my mind. It has been a kind time since that's happened to me! Keep the deep cut content coming!
I'm not sure I agree with this theory with the 2nd brother, but i do like the point/idea that maybe the mirror is a transfigured boggart. but lets say you are right and it was planned as such. many things magically come in three. lets say for Brother 2 it's the Mirror, Arch Veil, Stone....what are the other 2 object for the other 2 brothers?
I love the science of magic these two put into words. Its one thing to say ''the wizard did...'', but the carlin brothers tell us a bit more of the how and why.
I love this theory. I also loved your theory about the unforgivable curses. I would love to hear more from you about the cration of the Hallows and their prototypes.
I feel like the mirror would have been made by the first brother. He would have had the vanity to think of something like this. You know seeing yourself in all your "Ture Glory", and maybe finding the easiest way to get to that point or at least what that would look like.
i think the way you can achieve what the mirror is showing you is by being indifferent to it, e.g. harry got the philosopher stone because he was indifferent to it and did not intend to use it
One thing to consider is that in the chamber of secrets, when Harry looked into the mirror he did not see his family but a way to defeat Voldemort. He cared more for dealing the man that killed his family than seeing his family instead.
I like that analogy of dating, it was my husband who got me into Harry Potter(I wasn’t aloud to watch it as a kid) and we grew closer because of it. I’m a hufflepuff and he’s technically Slytherin but he would have chosen griffindoor Edit: spelling
lol so your husband is basically Harry? (the hat wanted to choose Slytherin for harry , thought he would make a good Slytherin, but harry 'chose' to be in Gryffindor and the hat allowed him to choose their own fate.)
12 year long fan here! Hi! Love the channel and it's the main reason i still have/use TH-cam haha I remember you guys talking about the pensive and veil before and I think they theorized they were created by the brothers. They also talked about the unfortunate curses being created by them. Now the mirror too. Perhaps also the hallows. My point here is that it'd be really cool to kind of combine all of the 3 brothers theories into one big theory and explore them.
I thought you guys did a theory where the pensive, the veil and the mirror were prototypes for the Cloak, the resurrection stone and the elder want respectively?
I love this theory and it's the second time you guys presented it. To me this is Canon that the peveral Brothers created the Hallows and the mirror, veil, and the pensive
These three objects need a name similar to The Deathly Hallows so henceforth I bestow them the title; The Binding Truths. The major difference with these is i personally believe all three brothers created all three of these objects, though it was a different brother leading the way towards its creation. The eldest brother took the lead in the creation of the mirror to better see into his potential future. The middle brother took the lead in the creation of the veil to better see beyond his present. The youngest and wisest, took the lead in the creation of the pensive to gain insight into his past.
I've come up with a What If that I think would be very interesting. "What If Harry Potter Was A Squib". Would Dumbledore know when he was a baby? Would he tell the Dursleys? Would the Dursleys treat Harry better knowing he wasn't magical? Would Dumbledore still bring Harry to Hogwarts to learn about Magic and teach him to defend himself? Would Harry still have some of Voldemort's powers such as parseltongue? Would Harry still get a wand and would his original wand choose him?(Even though he wouldn't be able to use it). Would it be public knowledge that "The Boy Who Lived" was a squib? Would Harry still be put in Gryffindor? Would Filtch be kinder to Harry cause they're both squibs? Would Harry have more Astronomy, Herbology, History of Magic, Potions, Care of Magical Creatures, Divination(Maybe?) or Study of Ancient Runes classes instead of classes that involve using magic. Would Harry be taught how to fight without magic like with a sword, using potions or having pet magical creatures? Would Harry still go into the chamber of secrets and save Ginny? Would Harry still runaway from home and call the knight bus or meet Sirius? Would Harry still need to save Sirius from the Dementors? Would Harry still be enter into the tri wizard tournament? Would Voldemort still take Harry's blood and return? Would Harry be able to save himself and Dudley from the dementors? Would Harry still be allowed at Hogwarts when Umbridge becomes Headmistress?
@@starblitzz7283 No. I want to see the Carlin bros take on this and see what they do with the story. I won't stop until I see them make a video on this topic or see a reply from them so I know they've seen it and I can stop.
I have no Idea where you and Jonathon come up with these theories! It's incredible! I never thought about how that could be possible, but when you say it, and basically spell it out for us, it totally makes so much sense! (Can you tell I was born blond? LOL Luckily, my hair darkened into a brown ) Can't wait for more theories and more of Neville's story.
I discovered that reverse spelling myself about 5 years after its publication while revisiting it. I was trying to figure out how theses words would Ben be pronounced and noticed some of the letters seemed to be in the wrong order, like the s following the h in wohs and then I started to notice some of the words were words in reversed so I decided to tru writing out the whole thing and was intrigued by my discovery. Then I immersed felt horrified and guilty because I realized I had written in my sister’s book without thinking but she didn’t care she was just likewise intrigued by my discovery and congratulated me.
If I had to guess, I would say from one of The Marauders during their final year at Hogwarts. Seeing as they were leaving Hogwarts, ostensibly, for good, there would have been no need for them to keep it. Also, the Map being a Map of Hogwarts specifically, they probably figured it would do more good to future students at Hogwarts than with them. Also, they, probably, figured their kids would go to Hogwarts one day and, being their kids, would, more than likely, end up in Filch's Office at least once. They, probably, intended to tell their kids about the Map. And I had to put money on who messed up and got caught, I would put money on Sirius Black. Why? Because as everyone who knew him from back in the day have said, he was the reckless one of the group.
You actually made me think of a different bogart-related question. Are they naturally hostile? Is their ability just a defense mechanism, or can they do serious harm. I know they can kind of emulate a dementor's kiss, but would they actually succeed in getting the soul?
What I wonder is how what one sees in the Mirror changes over time. We know what 11 year old Harry and Ron see. But what would they see the day they drop their kids off for the Hogwarts Express in 19 Years Later?
I’d rather not have the Peverell brothers be the inventors of every important mysterious object in the franchise (first the veil in the DoM and now the Mirror of Erisad. I like to think these artifacts are just so ancient and mysterious even modern wizarding knowledge can’t figure out their origin. It makes the history and world feel larger.
I agree. I would say the mirror is the most plausible for them to have invented. It is more modern then the pensive and the archway. Like, those two feel like Stonehenge old, while the mirror, and the three Hallows, feel for me medieval times old.
They weren't. And even if they did create several, they didn't create all. The Map, broomsticks, magic carpets, the deluminator, trunks that fit everything, etc.
I have no idea how you guys come up with these that is so amazing I was so shocked I never knew what that phrase meant written on the mirror until you said it it was just basically English but backwards
It's kind of interesting that one of the things Ron sees in the mirror that ends up becoming true is being Head Boy [I think. He and Hermione were Prefects in Half-Blood Prince. Did they make it to Head Boy/Girl qt all?]
House: Hufflepuff Patronus: Black stallion Boggart: PROBABLY my dead family...or bees. Loathe them. As to the dead family thing, though, SORRY, no spell's going to make that funny. I'm pulling a Molly Weasley on that one and I'm not ashamed of it.
If the mirror can only be defeated by "sadness and despair", it doesn't mean that it's invincible. Just like when boggart that shows you are most afraid of, you counter that very thing by turning into something you laugh at, the mirror can be countered by allowing yourself to feel the pain of knowing that you'll never get EXACTLY what you want. You defeat the boggart by letting go of your fear through laughter and you defeat the mirror by letting go of a desire that's been consuming you through pain. And I don't mean the kind of destructive pain where you wallow in self pity but the kind that comes with letting go of the illusion of control: you accept that you may never get what you crave, and thus you break its hold over you. You can still work towards becoming Quidditch captain or whatnot, but you let go of the feeling of being "incomplete" without achieving said goal.
It took me 20+ years to discover that Erised is Desire backwards. I am German and here its called Nehergeb. And I always wondered what a strange name. And only a few months ago I discovered it was Begehren backwards (German for Desire). Struck me like a lightning. I am a simple man...
I've recently understood, that if you only see yourself in the mirror, you are the happiest person in the world. Who knows, maybe the mirror on your wall is actually the Mirror of Erised, enchanted to look differently...?
Here is a small theory that doesnt change much but i think its cute When riddle ask slughorn about horucruxes he used some veritaserum I think its just make perfect sense He defenetly was capable of brewing that, if he wasnt a good potioneer slughorn wouldnt like him so much He of course also had the motive and the time to brew it And he even gave slughorn a pineapple before asking, which he could easily had a tasteless colorless ans smelless potion to
If they would start making Percy Jackson videos, I would scream of joy. The problem with Percy Jackson is, bc the movies are the definition of awful and therefore not popular at all, not that many people know about the Riordanverse. Which is sad bc if there would be nearly as many content creators doing content about that as there are for Harry Potter my life would be nearly perfect.
Peverells Patented Powerful Products 1. Elder Wands (Bonus: Avada Kedavra Spell) 2. Resurection Stone 3. Cloak of Invisibility 4. Mirror of Erised 5. Veil of the Dead 6. Pensieve
What would happen if a ghost travelled through the Vial in the department of mystery’s? , or Voldemort with Horcruxs in tact? Would the ghost die or be made to choose again between death or being a ghost. Would Voldemorts body be destroyed and his soul live on?
Kind of like your video on the Knight Bus being a transfigured Zouwu, I like the idea that some magical artifacts were created using magical creatures.
I think the notion of using pre-existing components from nature or modeling from them is very sensible. Since these creators were geniuses it could be that we could only begin to guess at the paths they took to achieve what they did. Simplicity is best when possible, so transfiguring a magical creature may have been a practical and effective route, but they could also have begun with a lot of simple and very different strategies that they were able to marry into their greater designs. It might be fun for fan fiction if there were many (more than a singular, lesser design such as the mirror for the stone) failures or prototypes that crop up and have great affect on the community from time to time, sort of like the Elder Wand leaving a clear path through history.
Actually, there is a way, I suppose, to beat the Mirror of Erised: Contentment. Dumbledore says that the happiest man in the world would see himself just the way he currently was. If you'll recall, Harry's sort of "emptiness" in his life was that he didn't really have a family he could call his own, as the Durselys weren't actually nice to him and the rest of his family was dead. However, at the end of Deathly Hallows, Harry has a wife and three children, so, presumably, if he looked into the Mirror at the end of the last book, he'd just see himself as he was. That actually parallels the third brother of the tale, who was able to evade death for years with the Cloak but in the end willingly let Death take him and gave the Cloak to his son..
In a previous therory, you thougth that the first brother made the mirror of erised and the second brother made the Veil in the department of mysteries.
HEY BROTHERRR! I had I very good story idea for your “What If” series. It’s not Harry Potter but Star Wars (which I know you guys still love). What if Qui-Gon Jinn’s survived the Duel against Maul aka What if Anakin was Qui-Gon Jinn’s Padawan
I like the idea that it's some sort of transfigured boggart. As for defeating it, I think you COULD, but I think...I think it'd be very painful and difficult. I'm not sure how worth it it'd be, you know? In the short term, I think the best thing you could do would be to just turn away from the mirror. That being said, I think there are some people who are more susceptible to it than others, the same as with boggarts, or Imperius, or the Resurrection Stone, or Elder Wand. And thinking about it, I'm not sure I'd WANT to stand in front of the Mirror of Erised. It...that's a LOT to know about yourself, you know?
If the mirror is a boggart, the showing of your deepest desire could be a defense mechanism. It has already been transfigured and its last defense is to make sure those who stand in front of it will not destroy it with laughter. So, it picks the most solemn thing it can pull from your being and places that in front of you, as an eternal distraction.
What if the First Brother created the Veil and then the Elder Wand. The Second Brother created the Mirror then the Resurrection Stone. The Third Brother created the Pensive then the Invisibility Cloak. Then finally what if the 3 brothers working together created the Eye?
@@morrigankasa570 ah. What makes you think they worked on that? (Don’t read that in a harsh tone, I’m genuinely curious, tell me your arguments please :) )
@@jonasfilmstudio Because the Eye is as unique and powerful as those 6 other items. We don't officially know it's full power and how it was made similar to those other items. Also, the 1st brother was combative and the Eye could potentially give an edge in combat situations. The 2nd brother desires his true love and who knows the Eye could possibly see into someone's mind and find the loved ones in someone's mind. Finally; the 3rd brother was Wise and valued Wisdom, the Eye can see through things and even Invisibility Cloaks which can allow you to gain more Wisdom.
I believe that Ignotus wrote the Invisible Book of Invisibility, although Antioch and Cadmus made contributions to it. The Eye is what is required to actually read the book. However the Eye itself I believe is actually a Demiguise Eye.
I think this theory works better with the Veil in the Department of Mysteries. The people brought back with the stone are even described as being separated from us “as if by a veil.” I think Cadmus created the Veil. As he was probably one of the first to try to recall the dead based on the age of the story.
hello supercarlinbrothers, this is kevin mange and i want you to know what i feel after seeing this video, what i’m feeling right now is my heartstrings pulled. my heartstrings are pulled because is on this video in it’s theory based heart’s desire/i loved desired and that involves with what house i would end up in and head to the mirror if i can. when i do end up to the mirror this is me explained of i loved desired: ravenclaw: if i am a ravenclaw and i end up looking in the mirror i desired to be a slytherin showing that i had made friends with draco, pansy, crabbe, goyle and flint. slytherin: if i am a slytherin and i end up looking in the mirror it’s totally different, i’d desire my family smiling in the fact that i am a good person and not what i wanted so much just to live up to the slytherin’s motives because in slytherin’s motives isn’t me, not racist mean mad angry person. But on this theory based on wasting away what your looking at it do more than hurting me i would just stare and be happy for what i see than be upset because if i would be upset and destroy what is me then i would destroyed me more than ever and i will always be like that, destroyed, never knowing who i am and always would be by myself despite the house i’m in and apparently that will never change, just being by myself never knowing where i do lay and as my hearts terrified in terms of a boggart i wouldn’t mind you theorizing that based on my me explained. thank you!
As much as I love the SCB's theory videos I wonder whether there is any artifact left that they haven't explained yet as the three brothers' inventions. Maybe Harry's glassess 😜
So if Cadmus created the mirror first then the stone, then I think he also created the archway in the Department of Mysteries! First the mirror to see his hearts true desire (kind of checking to see if he could eventually get over his lost love). Second the stone to try and bring her to him. And third the arch to take him to her.
That's plausible. And indeed, sad as it is, the veil claims Sirius Black, proving that the veil is a gateway to death.
I think scb have a theory from a few years ago that the threes Peverells all created an item before they created the hollows. The first brother created the mirror and as a means to get what he saw inside he created the wand. The second brother created the veil and to access the dead he could hear through it he created the stone. The third brother created the pensieve and while using it he realized how convenient it can be to be invisible so he created the cloak.
1. Boggarts
2. Thestrals
3. Dementors
Jason - I was honestly thinking that too.
I think they made a theory on that like a few weeks ago
The fact that this came out at the same time as the "If Neville were the chosen one series" makes me wonder. Im not talking about in this new scenario, but heres a thought. Do you think if Neville looked into the mirror in the original lore that he would see his parents like Harry? His parents arent dead, but they can't be the parents he needs.
Neville from the beginning of the book? I could see that. Though, if I had to guess what Year 1 Neville's Greatest Desire was, I would say it wasn't for his parents to not be vegetables in a hospital. No, I would think it would be similar to Ron's Greatest Desire. I think Year 1 Neville's Greatest Desire was to make his parents proud; to become every bit the Wizard his Father was and live up to his Father's Legacy. I believe if Year 1 Neville would have looked at the Mirror of Erised, he would have seen himself as a powerful and confident Auror, if not Head Auror. But I think Neville is the poster boy for why the Mirror of Erised is so dangerous and bad. Neville would have never gotten anywhere close to being a confident Auror if he had seen it in the Mirror because, as Dumbledore said, he would have just wasted away staring at the Mirror. But because Neville never saw the Mirror, he actually achieved his heart's greatest desire. By the end of the series, he had become a very confident wizard who fights against dark magic. He had, basically, become an Auror, just without the title and pay. But also, through his journey, he found a new desire: Herbology. And I think that's the true danger of the Mirror of Erised. The Mirror of Erised locks you into what your current heart's desire is. In doing so, it prevents you from discovering new desires. One of the greatest strengths of humanity is our adaptability and flexibility. The Mirror of Erised locks the viewer into one course and, thus, robs them of their adaptability and flexibility. Or in other words, The Mirror of Erised robs the viewer of their humanity.
I think not quite the same, but similar. For Harry it was simply the presence of his parents and extended family that he really wanted. For Neville it's his parents specifically being active patents of him - more about the actions
I don’t think Neville would have found the mirror since Dumbledore would have never given him James’ invisibility cloak
As soon as you mentioned "a gateway to the dead," it actually made me think more about the veil in the ministry.
Same here :)
They have a theory about this too! Awhile back they made one about how the second brother may have made the veil as well
@@isabellarust3476 indeed i believe it does exist
I think it was something like "the veil explained" around 6 years ago
They even use the exact same quote, specifically focusing on the word “veil” in that theory too.
I thought the same thing
Would be really interesting meeting a boggart.
Like... how many people are actually aware of their greatest fear? How do you quantify fear? How many actually have a THING they are scared of, rather than let's say being ostracized, alone, abandoned, never receiving their Hogwarts letter etc. How would a boggart even try to become something like loneliness?
Maybe friends or family giving you the cold shoulder? I guess most abstract fears have physical components to them. Like, I'm scared of death and loneliness and losing control, but those can be manifested in a lot of ways. Natural disasters, illness, people ignoring me...
1st: boggard does not target the greatest fear, it targets any fear that current victim is aware of.
2nd: loneliness? IMO, you are afraid it, only if you have it. So it will probably transform to yourself. But more interesting question would be: how exactly you fight it, how exactly ridikkulous make it laughing matter!
About half a year ago I realised exactly what would be shown due to it coming close to home.
The death of a specific loved one.
Basically the same as Molly
That's a question I've always had. In the book, the fears are always of some concrete thing. But there are many other fears.
And what if your greatest fear is a desk with papers on it?
Yeah, I'm scared of heights, I have no idea how that would translate into a Boggart or what a Riddikulus would do.
I'm rather ashamed to say I haven't cleaned my mirror in years. It reflects badly on me.
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I have parents that had us clean all the mirrors like every month. They weren't even really dirty
Good one 👏🏻
Personally I think the mirror was even more dangerous for Harry than Ron. What Ron seen in the mirror was possible, he could use that image as inspiration to one day acquire that desire. Harry on the other hand can never have what his heart desires. The only way he can see his parents at his side is gazing into the mirror. The fact he comes back night after night shows how it had already sunk its hooks into him but Ron didn't return with him again.
What Ron saw in the mirror happened, with thanks to umbridge
What Ron saw was basically recognition, being seen for his accomplishments. He was the last of many brothers only because his mother really wanted a daughter, so he is stuck between several older brothers who have a lot more going on than he does and the one child his mother actually wanted, he is the "mistake" and he doesn't want to be seen as such. He elaborates it in the way a kid just starting school would, all in a school environment, but ultimately it's the desire to be seen and recognized for the cool important things he can do, instead of being set aside because he doesn't tame dragons or isn't a girl.
SCB: We have a theory about who created an ageless magic artifact in the HP Universe.
Fans: It's the Peverells isn't it.
SCB: It's the Peverells.
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Fans: Never change guys.
I think it would make for a lame story if they did in fact create all those ageless artifacts, especially because if they were THIS good, it would've been more widespread and they would've gotten credit in modern times for it. I have no problem with Dumbledore's theory that the brothers created the Hallows, but i believe it makes way more sense to think that the Peverell's simply observed/studied those ancient artifacts (the Veil, the Mirror and the Pensieve) and took inspiration from them to eventually create the Deathly Hallows, which in itself already is an absurd feat.
@@m1xd2323indeed!
@@m1xd2323 not necessarily, because each brother has reasons for inventing them. But even if they did it doesn't take away that other inventions didn't come from Peverell's; the sorcerers/philosophers stone, the deluminator, brooms, any number of different creatures.
@@m1xd2323 the main reason this happens is because that's the only likely conclusion with the information we have. If there was more lore about other great wizards with (as powerscalers like to say) the appropriate feats, I'm sure they'd be more than happy to choose someone else. At the end of the day they're making theories with limited evidence. And theory channels can't just say "maybe someone the lore hasn't revealed made the thing". I'd say it's already impressive that they can provide some evidence with somewhat reasonable assumptions (though I do think some of their theories don't quite manage it).
LOL. Exactly. Everything leads back to the Peverells for SCB and their fans. Except that they don't. Not really.
So, if defeating the mirror requires sadness or sorrow when shown the thing that your heart desires most, would that explain why Harry was able to "defeat" it and get the sorcerer's stone in the first book, since what he most desired was his parents but this caused great sadness because they weren't really there (and having the sorcerer's stone wouldn't bring them back, so he wouldn't want to use it, allowing him to get it from the mirror)?
Yes! That’s exactly what I thought after the video as well! Shame they didn’t bring that uo
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It's much simpler than that. And it has nothing to do with Harry "defeating" the Mirror of Erised. Dumbledore actually tells us exactly how Harry acquired the Philosopher's Stone. And it has everything to do with the enchantment that Dumbledore himself placed on the Mirror: "Only the person who wants to acquire the Stone, acquire but not use it, can actually retrieve the Stone from the Mirror." Yes it's really THAT simple. Harry's only desire, at that point, was to prevent Quirrell from getting the Stone. He never had any desire to actually use the Stone. That's why the Mirror gave it to Harry. Because he satisfied the requirements of Dumbledore's enchantment.
@@MerkhVision They didn't bring it up because they don't know. They're just throwing around wild guesses.
No, Harry was able to "defeat it" because Dumbledore had designed it so that only soemone that wouldn't want to use the Stone would be able to retrieve it. That makes for a very short list, with possibly 3-4 people at Hogwarts matching that criteria.
These guys are just guessing at everything. Sometimes they have solid theories, sometimes they're so far off the mark it makes my head spin.
The despair due to the thing you see is a defence against the mirror in general, because it's a reminder that what you see is not real. I think it's similar to boggarts in the regard that simple laughter does not destroy it and simple sadness/despair wouldn't break the mirror, but pure anguish would probably incinerate the mirror if this theory is true.
A huge flaw that always bothered me about Dumbledore's set up to get the Stone. "Only someone who wanted the stone but not use it could get it". If Quirrel wanted the stone not to use, but to give it away (to his master), it should still have worked for him.
giving it to his master is using it, just not for it's function
I've always thought the same!! The argument that giving it to Voldemort was still "using it" never clicked for me, although someone gave a different reason that did make more sense - to me, at least - the idea was that, since Voldemort's essence was within Quirrel, and Voldy was the one who wanted to use it, that created a barrier to Quirrel actually obtaining the stone. He gets halfway - sees himself holding it, like Harry does, rather than seeing himself making the elixir of life or handing it to Voldemort - but he's not able to get to the finish line and pull it from the mirror.
Well, Voldy couldn't actually touch the stone in the state he was in; Quirrel would have had to make the elixir to bring him back.
Also I can’t believe that anybody who would try and get the stone for Voldy would be pure enough to not have a small part of themselves that would like to use the stone for themselves. Maybe people like Bellatrix or Barty jr but if wanting to give it to Voldy so he can use it counts then that stops them as well.
Ever since I've read the first book, I've thought that Dumbledore's explanation of how Harry got the stone was a lie. It doesn't make sense for several reasons. First, as @JockenN pointed out, Harry didn't want the stone for himself, but neither did Quirrell. Second, Erised is an enchanted mirror that shows what you desire. That's what it does. So how is it also a safe that can only be unlocked by the pure-of-heart? That's a totally different function.
And how did Dumbledore put the stone in the mirror? Either you can just insert objects into the mirror, a function which somehow no one else had discovered (and surely a lot of people would want to go into the mirror, or else pass messages or objects into it), or else a spell was used to make the mirror serve a function for which it was not originally intended.
So I think Dumbledore used a spell to hide the stone in the mirror, and set it so that only he, Harry, and perhaps a few trusted others could retrieve the stone. The reason he _lied_ about this is because he didn't want Harry to know he was the Chosen One yet.
I LOVED the theory about the creation of the Mirror, Veil and Pensieve. Can't wait to watch this video!
I would add the book that records all the names of witch and wizard candidates for Hogwarts. And the Sorting Hat. As much as we know about these artifacts, and the fact that they were around much later than the veil, mirror, and pensieve, we still don't know much about them.
@@ginnyjollykiddexcept we do know that the sorting hat at least was created by the founders. It’s directly mentioned in one of the books that the sorting hat was Godrick’s. Idk about the book and quil, but those are also most likely created by the founders.
@@nondominis4359 actually I believe that there is already theory about that on the channel. I am not sure but i kinda recall that while Sorting Hat was Godrick's invention, the Book and Quill were Helga's.
I wonder if it's possible to theorize about people's Mirror of Erised visions and their Boggarts, similar to theorizing about Patronuses. I think Snape's Boggart is a shampoo bottle. It's "pretty obvious".
This is fantastic
I feel like Snape's boggart is something he's already seen in person: the love of his life with his greatest enemy
@@blackpoe66no, her death.
@@blackpoe66 Its a joke
This would be such an awesome video!
Gonna be honest, I prefer the theory you guys made a while ago indirectly addressing this. Where, yes, the Peverill brothers made other, more rudimentary versions of the hallows. But there, it was the first brother, Antioch, who made the Mirror of Erised, Cadmus who made the veil in the Department of Mysteries, and Ignotus who made the pensive.
The mirror shows you your hearts deepest desire, and the Elder Wand is a way to achieve that desire. The veil is a one way trip to death, and the Resurrection Stone is a way to bring someone back from the dead (duh). The pensive is a way to go back into the past and exist completely invisibly, and then cloak allows you to do that in the present.
This also explains why Dumbledore had the mirror and how he knew the Peverell brothers created the hallows. He had been collecting and studying their other inventions.
13:04 "Using something somebody loves against them, I don't know what's worst than that" That was deep,and hit oddly hard 😮
this was such a brilliant and heart-wrenching theory. the second Peverell brother’s desperate search for a way to bring his beloved back hurts in all the right places, and everything he possibly created in his many attempts to do so is just so sad. my favorite theory yet!
That’s a great point about the Mirror and boggarts. There’s nothing in the books about just how long a boggart lives, but since they’re non-physical like a ghost they might very well be immortal and if magically harnessed in a device like the Mirror i could see them staying forever.
House- hat stall of Slytherin and Hufflepuff
Patronus- Sloth
Boggart- I was recently bit on the face by a dog I was pet sitting, so seeing that dog lunging at my face is probably my boggart right now
Mirror- me on my animal sanctuary, finally happy, cuddling all the animals I’ll rescue, not a care in the world
Ron got his heart's desire in one of the later books didn't he? Or close to it anyway. He was a prefect and might have become Head Boy if he hadn't dropped out between his sixth & seventh years, and he was on the Quidditch team and won the cup, even if he wasn't captain. Won the House Cup too.
Hey, this got me thinking about the Cloak of Invisibility and how it was made. What if it has Thestral hair woven into its fabric? Think about it. Dumbledore was able to see through it because he saw his sister die.
Unlikely, otherwise it would be a pretty useless cloak. Besides, Snape couldn't see through it despite being a Death Eater for many years. Also, Dumbledore had been studying it for quite some time and likely knew how to recognize it.
Though, it may be a blend of Demiguise fur and Thestral hair...
This is explained in the Fantastic Beasts book. The demiguise is a magical creature that can make itself invisible when it feels threatened. The invisibility cloak itself would be made of demiguise hair.
They finally completed the trilogy. First the veil, then the pensive, now the mirror
Omg were they created by the 3 brothers just a theory 😮😮😮
@@audiobookcentre1780that is what they originally thought, the swapped the brother for the mirror from their original theory
I always find it funny that Harry has a deep meaning desire and Ron wants to win the house cup
to ron it had meaning bcause he came from a big wizarding family and being the youngest boy too he alway got handmedowns, etc, never had anything he could call only his coming from such a big family.. he wanted to make a name for himself and have his own big accomplishments and attention on him whereas in his big family he often got lost in the shuffle. Its why you also see a bit of underlying jealousy sometimes with Ron and Harry where harry instantly stepped into the wizarding world getting lots of attention and fame, Rons desire makes sense when coming from the perspective of a young boy being overshadowed and lost in the shuffle. (but yea it is a bit funny at surface level like silly ron just wants to win the cup and be head boy at school lol)
Also, unfortunately trauma in such a young age can mature you prematurely. 💪🏼👊🏼
To be fair, it isn’t really just the house cup. Ron was the youngest Weasley boy. Bill was a successful curse breaker, Charlie was a dragon expert, Percy was prefect and later worked in a higher position in the Ministry of Magic, and Fred and George were two of the most popular kids at school due to their mischief and positions on the Quidditch team. Even Ginny was special in a way; she was the only girl. Ron doesn’t see himself in the mirror as just holding the house cup. He’s head boy, captain of the Quidditch team, and (most importantly) CONFIDENT. He doesn’t just want to win some trophy, he wants to stand out. To be worth something.
"Instead of showing you the thing you fear the most, it shows you the thing you love the most... that can be just as dangerous"
The opposite can be said about both. Boggarts can be good if you decide then and there to vanquish your fear once and for all. The mirror could be used for guidance, or something to work for and keep your eyes on. I love how in the series objects aren't just bad or just good, they're all of both. It depends on the person to take it to one extreme or the other.
Didnt you theorise that the mirror was created by the same brother as the elder wand? The mirror to show you what you want, and then the tool to get it?
Yeah, I guess they’re two separate theories
Haven't even started watching yet I know this video will be great. Easily my favourite channel on YY
Fun fact
Im from Poland and the mirror name is different in our books
It’s calles Ain Eingarp
If you flip it it reads Desires in Polish
House: Hufflepuff mirror image: my own wedding boggart: being alone and helpless
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Some of this sounds like Harryʼs reaction to his Patronus lessons. Part of him didnʼt want to stop having the visions the Dementors gave him because his worst memory was also his only accessible memory of his parents.
And I just realize *as I type this* that if heʼd actually mentioned that to Lupin, Lupin would have borrowed Dumbledoreʼs Pensieve that year to show Harry more memories of his parents.
Looking back on your original video on who created the Pensieve, the Mirror of Erised, and the Death Veil being the creators of the Unforgivable Curses I actually think that Antioch would have created the Death Veil to somehow discern how to truly make someone dead. That would align with him creating the killing curse more so than the mirror would have shown him just knowing the spell and using it.
Yeah! Unified theory of Potterdom
@@benjeffries2610 Now that I think about it, to truly conquer Death is more fitting then discerning how to truly make someone dead.
New video idea: A theory on why Voldemort and his crew didn’t just cast Avada Kedavra all at once during the Battle of Hogwarts. They should’ve easily and instantly won that fight.
I'd say it has something to do with how taxing it is to cast an unforgivable curse. People don;'t just throw them around,, it's that thing where you have to mean it and have a specific level of carelessness for humanity. Though I guess some death eaters would've been able to get there. Okay now I do want a theory video
Also, they where a bit of political party, they didnt want to kill off all wizards, only a few
I think it’s because that wouldn’t have made it so exciting. There was a lot more suspense going on in the battle of Hogwarts that probably wouldn’t have happened if Voldemort just started with Avada Kedavra. If everyone just throws around Stupefy, Expelliarmus, etc, there’s more suspense. I think in both the book and movie there’s more suspense about who wins
Because of the chaos. Spells would be flying everywhere, potentially bouncing off each other, which could kill their comrades.
Voldemort wanted to defeat and rule them, not to murder them. The reason he started the battle was to get Harry out of safety. If he wanted them all dead, he couldve easily done so after the battle when he brought Harrys presumaly dead body back to Hogwarts.
I already know this video would be amazing!
Love your channel!
Here is a theory of mine i just thought:
ollivander have an horucrux
First, the ollivander shop is open gor more than 2000 year, it of course can be a family business but for such a long time it seems almost impossible i think, also its seems to work well with the tineline of the first person to make horucrux
It can also explain why voldemort didnt kill him after he failed to explain harry's wand, act of mercy he usually doesnt show yo anyone who isnt a death eater, he cant
In fact it may even explain why voldemort kidnap him in the first place, which always felt weird for me because when he did that, he didnt knew his wand and harry's wsnd shared core (which is weird but a fact i think)
And it can also explain what ollivander ment when he said voldemort made horroble but great things
Opinions ?
Interesting who do you think he killed and what is the horcrux
@@audiobookcentre1780his pet Phoenix
Perhaps, the same way a Boggart is defetead by not fearing what you fear... the mirror is defeated by not wanting what you want...
Hence the usage of it to conceal the Stone. He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named can't help but want it.
So, the mirror would never budge to him.
Yes! Great idea!
Ok that line ending with "maybe that's just ridiculous" was beautifully written. Mad props
It feels like these videos are just getting reduced to “here’s an old magical object and since most people only know the 3 brothers, let’s say they did it”
I think this is very possible and I think a way to defeat it would be realizing that that thing is something you cannot obtain which could lead to despair and sadness
I consider myself a connoisseur of deep Potter lore, but this boggart trapped as a mirror theory blew my mind. It has been a kind time since that's happened to me! Keep the deep cut content coming!
I'm not sure I agree with this theory with the 2nd brother, but i do like the point/idea that maybe the mirror is a transfigured boggart. but lets say you are right and it was planned as such. many things magically come in three. lets say for Brother 2 it's the Mirror, Arch Veil, Stone....what are the other 2 object for the other 2 brothers?
I love the science of magic these two put into words. Its one thing to say ''the wizard did...'', but the carlin brothers tell us a bit more of the how and why.
SCB: "Who created ?"
Me: "It's the Peverell brothers again, isn't it?"
I love this theory.
I also loved your theory about the unforgivable curses.
I would love to hear more from you about the cration of the Hallows and their prototypes.
I feel like the mirror would have been made by the first brother. He would have had the vanity to think of something like this. You know seeing yourself in all your "Ture Glory", and maybe finding the easiest way to get to that point or at least what that would look like.
SuperCarlinBrothers theory starter pack:
'Cadmus Peverell made everything'
When he said "maybe it's just...", I was expecting him to continue with "...a theory... A FILM THEORY!".
i think the way you can achieve what the mirror is showing you is by being indifferent to it, e.g. harry got the philosopher stone because he was indifferent to it and did not intend to use it
One thing to consider is that in the chamber of secrets, when Harry looked into the mirror he did not see his family but a way to defeat Voldemort. He cared more for dealing the man that killed his family than seeing his family instead.
I like that analogy of dating, it was my husband who got me into Harry Potter(I wasn’t aloud to watch it as a kid) and we grew closer because of it. I’m a hufflepuff and he’s technically Slytherin but he would have chosen griffindoor
Edit: spelling
lol so your husband is basically Harry? (the hat wanted to choose Slytherin for harry , thought he would make a good Slytherin, but harry 'chose' to be in Gryffindor and the hat allowed him to choose their own fate.)
Here is my information
House: Hufflepuff
Patronus: Grey Squirrel
Boggart: My biggest fear is heights, so not sure what it could become
12 year long fan here! Hi! Love the channel and it's the main reason i still have/use TH-cam haha I remember you guys talking about the pensive and veil before and I think they theorized they were created by the brothers. They also talked about the unfortunate curses being created by them. Now the mirror too. Perhaps also the hallows. My point here is that it'd be really cool to kind of combine all of the 3 brothers theories into one big theory and explore them.
There's a reason McGonagall called transfiguration one the most dangerous forms of magic.
I thought you guys did a theory where the pensive, the veil and the mirror were prototypes for the Cloak, the resurrection stone and the elder want respectively?
I love this theory and it's the second time you guys presented it. To me this is Canon that the peveral Brothers created the Hallows and the mirror, veil, and the pensive
These three objects need a name similar to The Deathly Hallows so henceforth I bestow them the title; The Binding Truths.
The major difference with these is i personally believe all three brothers created all three of these objects, though it was a different brother leading the way towards its creation.
The eldest brother took the lead in the creation of the mirror to better see into his potential future.
The middle brother took the lead in the creation of the veil to better see beyond his present.
The youngest and wisest, took the lead in the creation of the pensive to gain insight into his past.
I've come up with a What If that I think would be very interesting. "What If Harry Potter Was A Squib".
Would Dumbledore know when he was a baby?
Would he tell the Dursleys?
Would the Dursleys treat Harry better knowing he wasn't magical?
Would Dumbledore still bring Harry to Hogwarts to learn about Magic and teach him to defend himself?
Would Harry still have some of Voldemort's powers such as parseltongue?
Would Harry still get a wand and would his original wand choose him?(Even though he wouldn't be able to use it).
Would it be public knowledge that "The Boy Who Lived" was a squib?
Would Harry still be put in Gryffindor?
Would Filtch be kinder to Harry cause they're both squibs?
Would Harry have more Astronomy, Herbology, History of Magic, Potions, Care of Magical Creatures, Divination(Maybe?) or Study of Ancient Runes classes instead of classes that involve using magic.
Would Harry be taught how to fight without magic like with a sword, using potions or having pet magical creatures?
Would Harry still go into the chamber of secrets and save Ginny?
Would Harry still runaway from home and call the knight bus or meet Sirius?
Would Harry still need to save Sirius from the Dementors?
Would Harry still be enter into the tri wizard tournament?
Would Voldemort still take Harry's blood and return?
Would Harry be able to save himself and Dudley from the dementors?
Would Harry still be allowed at Hogwarts when Umbridge becomes Headmistress?
Peter would probably find out and Voldemort would try to go after Neville instead
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@@nightflame389 Nobody would know he's a squib, not even his parents.
@@starblitzz7283 No. I want to see the Carlin bros take on this and see what they do with the story. I won't stop until I see them make a video on this topic or see a reply from them so I know they've seen it and I can stop.
@@crimtanecreature8903oh my goodness....ur such a child!
Somthing I can't help but think over is how magic would work in a vacuum
Oh yes, thank you oncoming weekend. Another SCB HP theory!
I have no Idea where you and Jonathon come up with these theories! It's incredible! I never thought about how that could be possible, but when you say it, and basically spell it out for us, it totally makes so much sense! (Can you tell I was born blond? LOL Luckily, my hair darkened into a brown ) Can't wait for more theories and more of Neville's story.
I discovered that reverse spelling myself about 5 years after its publication while revisiting it. I was trying to figure out how theses words would Ben be pronounced and noticed some of the letters seemed to be in the wrong order, like the s following the h in wohs and then I started to notice some of the words were words in reversed so I decided to tru writing out the whole thing and was intrigued by my discovery. Then I immersed felt horrified and guilty because I realized I had written in my sister’s book without thinking but she didn’t care she was just likewise intrigued by my discovery and congratulated me.
Great Video! Theory suggestion: Who did Filch confiscate the Marauders Map from?
If I had to guess, I would say from one of The Marauders during their final year at Hogwarts. Seeing as they were leaving Hogwarts, ostensibly, for good, there would have been no need for them to keep it. Also, the Map being a Map of Hogwarts specifically, they probably figured it would do more good to future students at Hogwarts than with them. Also, they, probably, figured their kids would go to Hogwarts one day and, being their kids, would, more than likely, end up in Filch's Office at least once. They, probably, intended to tell their kids about the Map. And I had to put money on who messed up and got caught, I would put money on Sirius Black. Why? Because as everyone who knew him from back in the day have said, he was the reckless one of the group.
I wonder... If a person's heart's desire is to know what his/her heart's desire is, would he/she see the Mirror of Erised in the Mirror of Erised?
Then they never find out what it actually is though
You actually made me think of a different bogart-related question. Are they naturally hostile? Is their ability just a defense mechanism, or can they do serious harm. I know they can kind of emulate a dementor's kiss, but would they actually succeed in getting the soul?
Ooh, good question!
Your videos always make my day guys!❤❤❤❤❤
I wonder what Hermione would see in the mirror... Straight Outsanding grades? Free elves? Krum on a freshly mown lawn? 😁
So to defeat the mirror you need to know it can't give you what you seek and despair?
Y'all never cease to amaze me with the creative theories you come up with. 💚
What I wonder is how what one sees in the Mirror changes over time. We know what 11 year old Harry and Ron see. But what would they see the day they drop their kids off for the Hogwarts Express in 19 Years Later?
What ive always wanted to know is how did the stone end up in the mirror in the first place.
The answer: Dumbledore
I don't know what it was with this video but Ben just dropped the best intro to any video I have seen in a long time! :D
I’d rather not have the Peverell brothers be the inventors of every important mysterious object in the franchise (first the veil in the DoM and now the Mirror of Erisad.
I like to think these artifacts are just so ancient and mysterious even modern wizarding knowledge can’t figure out their origin. It makes the history and world feel larger.
I agree.
I would say the mirror is the most plausible for them to have invented. It is more modern then the pensive and the archway. Like, those two feel like Stonehenge old, while the mirror, and the three Hallows, feel for me medieval times old.
They weren't. And even if they did create several, they didn't create all. The Map, broomsticks, magic carpets, the deluminator, trunks that fit everything, etc.
Amazing video as always! Your Theories always make my day!❤❤❤😊😊😊😊
Motto of the supercarlinbrothers
If you don't know who made it, it must be the peverell brothers
I mean they can’t be proven false
I think that is what I think all the time
I have no idea how you guys come up with these that is so amazing I was so shocked I never knew what that phrase meant written on the mirror until you said it it was just basically English but backwards
It's kind of interesting that one of the things Ron sees in the mirror that ends up becoming true is being Head Boy [I think. He and Hermione were Prefects in Half-Blood Prince. Did they make it to Head Boy/Girl qt all?]
Yes they did.
@@ginnyjollykidd Oh good! I'm glad I remembered that right. It's been ages since I've read HBP.
House: Hufflepuff
Patronus: Black stallion
Boggart: PROBABLY my dead family...or bees. Loathe them. As to the dead family thing, though, SORRY, no spell's going to make that funny. I'm pulling a Molly Weasley on that one and I'm not ashamed of it.
If the mirror can only be defeated by "sadness and despair", it doesn't mean that it's invincible. Just like when boggart that shows you are most afraid of, you counter that very thing by turning into something you laugh at, the mirror can be countered by allowing yourself to feel the pain of knowing that you'll never get EXACTLY what you want. You defeat the boggart by letting go of your fear through laughter and you defeat the mirror by letting go of a desire that's been consuming you through pain.
And I don't mean the kind of destructive pain where you wallow in self pity but the kind that comes with letting go of the illusion of control: you accept that you may never get what you crave, and thus you break its hold over you. You can still work towards becoming Quidditch captain or whatnot, but you let go of the feeling of being "incomplete" without achieving said goal.
It took me 20+ years to discover that Erised is Desire backwards. I am German and here its called Nehergeb. And I always wondered what a strange name. And only a few months ago I discovered it was Begehren backwards (German for Desire). Struck me like a lightning. I am a simple man...
I've recently understood, that if you only see yourself in the mirror, you are the happiest person in the world. Who knows, maybe the mirror on your wall is actually the Mirror of Erised, enchanted to look differently...?
Or, could you do some Half-Blood prince theories? It’s my fav book. Also, are you guys ever gonna do Percy Jackson videos?
Here is a small theory that doesnt change much but i think its cute
When riddle ask slughorn about horucruxes he used some veritaserum
I think its just make perfect sense
He defenetly was capable of brewing that, if he wasnt a good potioneer slughorn wouldnt like him so much
He of course also had the motive and the time to brew it
And he even gave slughorn a pineapple before asking, which he could easily had a tasteless colorless ans smelless potion to
If they would start making Percy Jackson videos, I would scream of joy. The problem with Percy Jackson is, bc the movies are the definition of awful and therefore not popular at all, not that many people know about the Riordanverse. Which is sad bc if there would be nearly as many content creators doing content about that as there are for Harry Potter my life would be nearly perfect.
You make a good point, but I would still love to see one.
That makes so much sense!
10:30 Aye y’all finally (kinda) talked about the Thestral/ deathly hallows theory! You guys should really make a dedicated video about it.
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1. Elder Wands (Bonus: Avada Kedavra Spell)
2. Resurection Stone
3. Cloak of Invisibility
4. Mirror of Erised
5. Veil of the Dead
6. Pensieve
Wow! You keep making me get goosebumps EVRY TIME I realize where your theory is leading! How do you manage to do that?
What would happen if a ghost travelled through the Vial in the department of mystery’s? , or Voldemort with Horcruxs in tact? Would the ghost die or be made to choose again between death or being a ghost. Would Voldemorts body be destroyed and his soul live on?
They already done that
The body doesn't die from the view.
Kind of like your video on the Knight Bus being a transfigured Zouwu, I like the idea that some magical artifacts were created using magical creatures.
I think the notion of using pre-existing components from nature or modeling from them is very sensible. Since these creators were geniuses it could be that we could only begin to guess at the paths they took to achieve what they did. Simplicity is best when possible, so transfiguring a magical creature may have been a practical and effective route, but they could also have begun with a lot of simple and very different strategies that they were able to marry into their greater designs. It might be fun for fan fiction if there were many (more than a singular, lesser design such as the mirror for the stone) failures or prototypes that crop up and have great affect on the community from time to time, sort of like the Elder Wand leaving a clear path through history.
Carlin Bros knocking it out every time. 🔥
Gotta be honest, showing you your family you lost is an almost garantuee to make you cry.
Actually, there is a way, I suppose, to beat the Mirror of Erised: Contentment. Dumbledore says that the happiest man in the world would see himself just the way he currently was. If you'll recall, Harry's sort of "emptiness" in his life was that he didn't really have a family he could call his own, as the Durselys weren't actually nice to him and the rest of his family was dead. However, at the end of Deathly Hallows, Harry has a wife and three children, so, presumably, if he looked into the Mirror at the end of the last book, he'd just see himself as he was.
That actually parallels the third brother of the tale, who was able to evade death for years with the Cloak but in the end willingly let Death take him and gave the Cloak to his son..
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Ben: "But who knows. Maybe that's just..."
My Mind:
"...A THEORY! A FILM THEORY!"
In a previous therory, you thougth that the first brother made the mirror of erised and the second brother made the Veil in the department of mysteries.
HEY BROTHERRR! I had I very good story idea for your “What If” series. It’s not Harry Potter but Star Wars (which I know you guys still love). What if Qui-Gon Jinn’s survived the Duel against Maul aka What if Anakin was Qui-Gon Jinn’s Padawan
I like the idea that it's some sort of transfigured boggart. As for defeating it, I think you COULD, but I think...I think it'd be very painful and difficult. I'm not sure how worth it it'd be, you know? In the short term, I think the best thing you could do would be to just turn away from the mirror. That being said, I think there are some people who are more susceptible to it than others, the same as with boggarts, or Imperius, or the Resurrection Stone, or Elder Wand. And thinking about it, I'm not sure I'd WANT to stand in front of the Mirror of Erised. It...that's a LOT to know about yourself, you know?
If the mirror is a boggart, the showing of your deepest desire could be a defense mechanism. It has already been transfigured and its last defense is to make sure those who stand in front of it will not destroy it with laughter. So, it picks the most solemn thing it can pull from your being and places that in front of you, as an eternal distraction.
13:39 I can’t be the only person who thought he was gonna say “ who knows maybe it’s just a theory A FILM THEORY
Idk how I have not subscribed until now I watch your channel so much
What if the First Brother created the Veil and then the Elder Wand.
The Second Brother created the Mirror then the Resurrection Stone.
The Third Brother created the Pensive then the Invisibility Cloak. Then finally what if the 3 brothers working together created the Eye?
What eye?
@@jonasfilmstudio Moody's Eye
@@morrigankasa570 ah. What makes you think they worked on that? (Don’t read that in a harsh tone, I’m genuinely curious, tell me your arguments please :) )
@@jonasfilmstudio Because the Eye is as unique and powerful as those 6 other items. We don't officially know it's full power and how it was made similar to those other items. Also, the 1st brother was combative and the Eye could potentially give an edge in combat situations. The 2nd brother desires his true love and who knows the Eye could possibly see into someone's mind and find the loved ones in someone's mind. Finally; the 3rd brother was Wise and valued Wisdom, the Eye can see through things and even Invisibility Cloaks which can allow you to gain more Wisdom.
I believe that Ignotus wrote the Invisible Book of Invisibility, although Antioch and Cadmus made contributions to it. The Eye is what is required to actually read the book. However the Eye itself I believe is actually a Demiguise Eye.
I think this theory works better with the Veil in the Department of Mysteries. The people brought back with the stone are even described as being separated from us “as if by a veil.” I think Cadmus created the Veil. As he was probably one of the first to try to recall the dead based on the age of the story.
Question.
What would the alternative Harry in your what if Neville was the chosen one would see in the mirror ?
His family and him as quidditch captain
I think the mirror of erised is the veil in a way
hello supercarlinbrothers, this is kevin mange and i want you to know what i feel after seeing this video, what i’m feeling right now is my heartstrings pulled. my heartstrings are pulled because is on this video in it’s theory based heart’s desire/i loved desired and that involves with what house i would end up in and head to the mirror if i can. when i do end up to the mirror this is me explained of i loved desired: ravenclaw: if i am a ravenclaw and i end up looking in the mirror i desired to be a slytherin showing that i had made friends with draco, pansy, crabbe, goyle and flint. slytherin: if i am a slytherin and i end up looking in the mirror it’s totally different, i’d desire my family smiling in the fact that i am a good person and not what i wanted so much just to live up to the slytherin’s motives because in slytherin’s motives isn’t me, not racist mean mad angry person. But on this theory based on wasting away what your looking at it do more than hurting me i would just stare and be happy for what i see than be upset because if i would be upset and destroy what is me then i would destroyed me more than ever and i will always be like that, destroyed, never knowing who i am and always would be by myself despite the house i’m in and apparently that will never change, just being by myself never knowing where i do lay and as my hearts terrified in terms of a boggart i wouldn’t mind you theorizing that based on my me explained. thank you!
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As much as I love the SCB's theory videos I wonder whether there is any artifact left that they haven't explained yet as the three brothers' inventions. Maybe Harry's glassess 😜
Love your videos SCB keep up the amazing work ❤❤❤