Could The Veil KILL Voldemort | Harry Potter Film Theory
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@supercarlinbrothers do you think each piece of soul creating a horcrux was equal in size and strength, or did Vs soul split in half each time creating lesser and lesser powered horcruxes?
I think the worst thing for Voldemort would be stuck with Dumbledore talking to him for the rest of eternity. Like just Dumbledore being Dumbledore. Talking about random candies, talking about the power of love and Voldemort having to sit and listen not being able to leave. Ever. That would be hysterical
😂😂😂
And Dumbledore is just there willingly to "keep Tom company" despite Voldemort's constant remarks to "please leave" 😂
Now I'm imagining Dumbledore singing the power of love by huey Lewis and the news to Tommy boy for like a year straight
@@nathanmacrae9199 Off-key too 🤣
In Limbo, Voldemort would forever have to pass under a horizontal stick without touching it or falling down. And the stick keeps getting lower and lower. And there would be constant calypso music playing.
You are telling me dumbledore or the trio could just collect the horcruxes and throw it through the veil 😭💀
If they could get into the most secure part of the ministry building
They first time they got in someone probably cleared the way to make sure they found the prophecy. By the time they had Horcruxes the ministry had been controlled by Voldemort for over a year.
@Studio732JRL Your manners are what's embarrassing.
i mean, was the ministry not built around the veil? it seems like many of its functions and HOW it exists is considered a mystery to the ministry. I wonder if they didnt do that because they did not know the ramifications of doing so?
Gilderoy lockhearth, throw him through the veil, Dolores Humbridge, throw her through the veil, voldemort´s nose throw it through to the veil, its said leeviosaaaa, throw it through the veil, the minister of magic...
I believe the Veil is *absolutely* deadly enough to qualify as a horcrux destroyer. It destroys your body on the most fundamental level and transfers your soul to the great beyond. So if you throw a physical object in there, that object will undoubtedly be rendered "beyond repair", which is the condition for the destruction of a horcrux (sans Harry under special circumstances, where it's the act of the Killing Curse severing the soul's connection to the body that kills the bit of Voldemort inside). Which means if you throw Voldy in there before all his 'cruxes are gone, it should reduce him to the same lesser mean misty existence as his rebounding curse after attacking Harry in '81, but afterwards, his soul is still mangled enough to stick him in Limbo. Thoughts?
Edit: I should correct myself on how the killing curse works, cuz clearly it does more than just remove your soul - that's what the dementor's kiss does, and you're still able to live on as an empty thoughtless husk after that one. So clearly it has to destroy your body's ability to do body things, like it just shuts down your brain on the spot or destroys an important part of it. But if so, how is Harry able to come back from Limbo? He shouldn't even have a viable living body left for his soul to inhabit anymore. So either the Killing Curse doesn't really irreversibly destroy you on the spot but rather just shuts down all processes in your brain, in which case Harry is able to come back solely because he has a stronger soul tether than Voldy, or the killing curse does simply remove the soul itself entirely and it's the dementor's kiss that doesn't.
"Destroy beyond physical repair" might not be true for physical objects. It says it does this for living things but until someone has tried it we will never know.
@@takumi2023 true, true, but it seems to me like it should work at least for a horcrux, an object with a piece of soul inside. I mean, venom shouldn't really affect a non-living object, yet basilisk juice does just fine for stuff infused with Essence of Voldemort.
Mmmm I think he'd just be free to remake his body again with horcruxes still.
@@OTGGaming0594 that's exactly what I said. If he's killed in any way while his horcruxes still exist, what happened to him the night he tried to kill baby Harry happens again.
@@noblegas8485 i think there would be one mayor caveat to voldys soul being preserved by the horcruxes... could he escape from the other side of the veil in this form?
i could imagine him getting thrown through the veil with horcruxes still intact would be a fate even worse than eternal limbo.
picture this: seven tethers from seven horcruxes extend from his soul. normally they would prevent the soul from getting pulled to the afterlife (the other side of the veil) upon death.
btw a similar thing can happen naturally to your "intact" soul via unresolved matters, which is how you get a ghost.( voldy himself said he was less than a ghost, a soul that did not pass on to the afterlife and condensed into shape, but in his case not an "entire/intact" soul.
now "force" his prime soul to be in the afterlife via the only known (one way ) passage to the afterlife aka the veil. the passage through the veil would split his soul from his body and disintegrate the body.
normally the soul would disperse in the afterlife with only the resurrection stone being capable of condensing enough to conjure it back into shape at the edge of the afterlife, but still behind the (metaphorical in this case) veil.
not so much with voldy: the MULTIPLE tethers on his soul might be strong enough to keep his soul from dispersing even on the other side of the veil. the tethers of his horcruxes reaching through the veil and wrapping around the remnants of his prime soul, not allowing it to disperse, but still not capable from pulling it back through the one way ticket of the veil. his soul essentially chained to the edge of the afterlife pulled against the veil for eternity or until all (or maybe just enough) tethers are cut by destroying the howcruxes.
i imagine him standing there on the other side of the veil in the ministry of magic, silvery chains extending from the veil and wrapping around his "body" where the tethers from the horcruxes reach in through the veil. unable to move more than a couple of feet from the veil but also not able to step back through it into life
(or the a bit more humiliating version: he is chained face first against the veil, head smushed against the border to life and cant even move an inch because the tethers pull so strong in the direction of life but it just doesn't work...)
Only now made the poetic connection that Voldemort's ancestor, Antioch, was the brother who killed himself for love, yet Voldemort's afraid of death and doesn't love.
Wow. Moldy Voldy is so ironic
Also ironic that the one hallow he would have despised was the resurrection stone, a very strongly prided family heirloom
Nah it was the second brother, Cadmus.
Antioch was the first brother with the wand. He doesn't have any confirmed descendants.
And the third Ignotus is the ancestor of Harry.
11:30 Dumbledore says you must first destroy the horcruxes and then Voldemort. But what if you kill the Voldemort prime, then his soul is left wondering the world, and then you destroy the horcruxes? That has to do the job, too.
No, bc he doesn't need horcruxes to exist in mist form, he just need them to not pass away..if they destroy all horcruxes while he was in mist form he could still come back and make more
@@ghazalmirani1445 is that true? him having the ability to exist in that mist form is all thanks to the horcruxes anchoring him to the realm of life. if all of them were gone, I would argue he would at best slowly dissipate if not just immediately be erased
@@lonelyprince0I believe that if someone managed to destroy all the Horcruxes before Voldemort regained a body, the moment his spirit wasn't possessing something, it would've moved on to his unpleasant afterlife. (I put that qualifier there because he might have possessed snakes and the like during that time.)
@@lonelyprince0 well that was the reason dumbledore gave to harry to seek horcruxes first..maybe he was wrong..I don't know
@ghazalmirani1445 the way I saw that was so harry can grow to accept death since otherwise he would fight the idea that he needs to die too for old no nose to finally meet his end
I think that Voldemort would basically become TSA for the afterlife. Life is the normal everyday, Limbo is the Airport, and the Afterlife/Great Beyond is like a vacation. So I could see Voldemort asking people for their names, then asking them to please remove a physical form to step through the soul detector. And then having to wish everyone a pleasant day, while the masses shout at him to hurry it up because they are very busy people and they haven't got all day!
I feel like yes, if you pushed Voldemort into the veil, he would technically be dead, but since horcruxes literally act as an anchor to the mortal plane, he would be one of the few people that could cross back over
I don't think he'd cross over at all. Him being anchored to the world would basically stop the soul from crossing through the veil, while his body did.
I think technically it could have killed the human body of Voldemort if he happened to be in that room during that battle and fell through it, but it wouldn't kill the pieces that were in items around the country so he wouldn't be gone for good. His followers might be able to find the other pieces and bring him back, but would it be able to kill that individual piece? Or you know if the kids were to bring all the pieces back to that room and just yeet them through there maybe
Now that’s an interesting character concept, someone anchored to both life and death and how they traverse their life and world.
The first horcrux has more of his soul than any of the other horcruxes. The last piece in his regenerated body is the smallest, weakest soul fragment because of all the times it was torn in half to make horcruxes. So I could see the first, the diary, having more power than any other piece of Voldenmort's soul, and also actually being the closest to a normal soul, it had the most potential of regenerating Voldemort.
Yeah, I always really disliked the idea of the diary being special due to being a Diary. It makes the most sense to me that the thing that makes the diary special, is simply the fact it was the first and has the most, the purest soul out of every item. I believe it makes sense for a horkrux, no matter what item it is to be a sort of a "snapshot" of the person at the time, and it doing what it can to find a soul to use in order to manifest said snapshot into the world of the living.
Being protected from death doesn't really have much value if all it does is make you less than a ghost for the eternity. Buuuut if the purpose of the Horcrux is to manifest the person as they were in life - then they can seek out and bring back the original soul to life. Other Horcruxes also try to communicate with people nearby, they are just not as strong as the diary.
Personal theory, I think Flamel is related to the Peverell brothers. They all deal so much with defeating death it just makes sense. Also if the mirror of erised was made by the Peverell brothers it's kinda poetic it would be used to protect the stone
You guys should do a theory on the different types of Voldemort's soul that exist in each horcrux. Because I do not think that one seventh of his soul would exists in each horcrux. It doesn't say that you cut off a piece of your soul when you commit murder, but rather that you "split" your soul, and I believe it even says "in two". This would mean that the diary was actually be the most complete version of Voldemort soul, and Voldemort prime would be the smallest amount of his soul.
"In two" doesn't necessarily mean "in half", since any sized portion would still make two separate pieces. I would think it is just a similarly small piece every time, such that the "prime" version would always be the largest portion (unless, perhaps, it was torn some hundreds of times). Then again, it all raises the question of how a soul can be quantified anyway. It may be that there is no such consideration when a soul is torn. The soul is weakened (for all existing instances, as some form of a connection clearly still exists between them all) by the damage of tearing apart, but not lessened in size or anything. After all, we know the "prime" version was destroyed by a rebounded killing spell, but that same version was the one that returned (none of his horcruxes spawned a soul to replace him, since all the horcruxes he created prior to that still held their pieces). So the pieces are just anchors and not souls in and of themselves (though the diary one gets its own memories and experiences due entirely to the magic of the diary itself).
It is canonically confirmed that when the soul is split. It is in half. Harry actually has more of Voldemort in himself than Voldemort prime.
@@SgtSupaman I'm not talking about physical size when I say that the earlier horcruxes would be bigger. But rather just that it would be half of his original soul, and the next one would only be a quarter of his original since it is only half of the half, and so on.
Also, there are multiple reasons that his "prime" soul was the one that became "him" again. One is that it's the only one that wasn't bound to something. There was no way for the soul in the horcruxes to leave, and no one knew about them, so it makes sense they weren't used. Also, it's explained that a horcrux is kind of the opposite of a human with a soul, so that could be why when they were destroyed they didn't behave the same way as when Voldemort was hit with the rebounding avada kedavra. It's also possible that they did behave the same way. That when they were destroyed the piece of soul became the same ephemeral thing as we saw in the philosophers stone, but just like the 10 years before the first book, they were just floating aimlessly, unable to "do" anything, but still anchored to "this side of the veil", then with the final death of Voldemort's body, there was no more soul anchored to this side, and all the pieces went to limbo.
Also, while it's possible that the diary was basically just a "picture" and a memory, it's also possible that it was the representation of the 16yr old version of Voldemort's soul, and that all of the horcruxes could have basically done the same thing as snapshots of the soul that was placed in them. After all, if Voldemort had returned in the chamber of secrets, I see no reason why that would have been any different than what happened in the goblet of fire, just with a younger Voldemort, but it would have still been Voldemort.
The Tom's limbo would be an ever ending loop of revisiting his orphanage - the very day his mother left him there. Every single time he will try to see the face of his mother and start any discussion with her.
But every single time he'll be slowed by the "shadows" od those he killed and after every exhausting fight, in the moment he was about to face his mother, he would be thrown back to the very beginning.
I think that the portal is more like a portal to the afterlife. It transports your soul to the afterlife while leaving your body somewhere else (the backrooms?) If voldy were to fall into the veil, he would probably we transported to the afterlife in spite of his horcruxes, similarly to how an anchor probably wounldnt work if someone were to teleport the boat.
His purgatory is a room with a scratch and sniff book where he has to identify every scent to get out
It may not be the best time of year, but do a video connecting Harry Potter to Holy Week (Stone = Palm Sunday, Hallows = Easter, Saturday, etc)
Also it may be that the diary soul had the largest portion of his soul of all the Horcruxes. Half of his soul was in the diary which is why it was so powerful. Every subsequent Horcrux got an exponentially lesser part of his soul as ¼, ⅛, etc.
Limbo is like waiting at a bus stop which has been discontinued. And you can't use the bench because of an eternally comatose hobo is sleeping on it
I think the DMV analogy is perfect. The only thing I would add is needing to pee, but not being able to find a bathroom.
Veil brings you to the afterlife. Voldy can't go to the afterlife. Clearly the answer is that it makes a funny "Bonk!" noise and he bounces back, growing a cartoonishly large bump on his head.
You have to poop, and are perpetually stuck behind a slow driver on a one lane road, and literally NO way of getting around that slow driver….. forever
Well, the "waiting for his number to be called" bit made me picture Oldy Voldy sitting in the afterlife's waiting room from Beetlejuice, so that's what I'm choosing to go with. Just being annoyed by Beetlejuice for eternity. It's extra funny if you imagine the witch doctor there shrinking his head, too.
I could've sworn you covered something similar to this in another video.
I think it's fitting end for voldemort to be unable to pass fully, it's like he is cursed with eternally experiencing death without ever getting to the life that comes after as a punishment for trying to avoid death.
I also think that the reason the diary seems like the most powerful horcrux is because its the first, so it has half of voldemorts soul in it. As he makes more horcruxes, he's splitting the soul he has left in half so the second one he makes would only have 1/4 of his whole soul in it, etc.
I don't think it works quite as an even split, but also I think in general the diary is special because while the ones connected to him and his Slytherin heritage feel stronger, the diary is special in the sense that it is _his_. Everything about it was set up by him. So all of its powers are specifically designed. It was also intended to open the Chamber, which obviously requires some level of awareness. Ultimately, it is a reflection of his memories as well as his soul, and is able to feed off those who write in it as well to grow stronger. The other Horcruxes were intended to just...exist, but the diary had a _purpose._
Dumbledore when Hermione wants to go to all the classes: here, have a Time-Turner.
Dumbledore when Harry needs to go back in time and save Sirius from Bellatrix: LOL, no.
He has to teach Hufflepuffs muggle studies forever.
“It’s a one way portal to death”… so is messing with my food, but nobody built a government agency around my kitchen. I feel like the veil was something that was going to be more important when it was written and then dumped.
I’m from the U.K. and we don’t have a DMV but the more I hear about it thereafter I feel about the state of our country!
6:14 what a world to live in if harry gathered all the horcruxes and chucked them through the veil except nagini and harry potter: the living horcruxes independent of voldemort.
Ok what we need now is a new, great 7-part what-if, such as what if Hermione had been in Ravenclaw
I was a high school Sophomore when the Second HP book came out but I didn't think I'd have any interest in the overall franchise until the first Lego sets for the first movie was up for magazine purchase. I have a theory that, because Voldemort is practically almost as much a hollow shell of himself as that of a dementor; The veil arch might keep his essence in limbo but won't allow him to pass on into the "void"; he will still "exist" in the living world but not quite in the same way as a dementor or a ghost might stay behind in the land of the living. Voldemort would just be like a "Time Anomaly" that never left either plane of existence.
The limbo reminds me of Percy Jackson and the lightning thief when they go to the underworld
I would really like it if you guys did a second episode of if Neville Longbotom was The Chosen One.
I can see one logical scenario: it turns out that Harry and Sirius have been home caring for Lilly at Grimauld Place; Harry's sacrifice had the same effect that Lilly's had in the canon; therefore the Longbotom family moves into Grimauld Place.
Dumbledore might at least partly reactivate the Order of the Phoenix. As with the Chamber of Secrets, the Order's reactivation might move up.
Neville can only become The Master of Death if the cloak decides that he inherited it from Harry and that's not a big leap.
Frank and Alice are probably in even more danger than they already were. Having Sirius and probably Lupin in residence is not a bad thing.
Bring in limbo would be like being on the interstate with 2 18 wheelers side by side going the speed limit for eternity
I love how he uses the dmv as an example for limbo 😂😂
Is Sirius super awesome in the afterlife since he brought his real body? The exact opposite of limbo Voldomor?
I’m gonna say the worst thing he’d have to do in limbo is cut his toenails like the first and only time he ever did it apparently
A part of Voldemort's soul in the afterlife. I would imagine the spirits of the dead would haunt him forever, sending visions to him through the link of his soul fragments.
I wonder what would have happened if nicolas flamel went through the veil while holding the philosophers stone🤔
He has to teach everyone he's killed, Defense Against the Dark Arts...and theyre all forever bad at it.
Awesome as always guys i think voldemort is doomed to wait forever for the SCB video
Does the primary piece of Voldemort’s soul hold extra abilities beyond his sense of self? If I recall, when he describes his existence, he notes that he had to move from animal to animal, as his existence within them greatly shortened life span. If the issue with Horcruxes is that the continuation of the soul is dependent on the container, shouldn’t the death of the first animal he inhabited have destroyed the piece of soul?
still waiting for a "Merlin's pants!" joke with the MeUndies ads
I've always wondered if the veil could send ghosts to the afterlife.
I like to imagine him sitting with a school desk. Nothing around him other than a box of stamps. 😊 He has to sort them of course, without using magic. And every time the box is almost empty, new piles of stamps appear. Sometimes the box just fills itself. Sometimes an owl comes with them. Once a hovering hair dryer appears, which blows a lot of stamps in his face. Sometimes something invisible drops a whole bag of them on top of him, so he has to get down on his hands and knees on the floor to find every single one. etc...
For him to not have the ability to be able to use magic. But still watch it. At the same time that he has to do a normal human task feels very right to me. 🙂
And the fact that he is alone forever feels appropriate, because then he has no one but himself to manipulate. Sorry, this was a bit long. But it's fun to think about. At least I think so. ❤
Tom Riddle, there would be nothing left after being defeated. Nothing. The Veil/portal to the Rift would not have done any differently. It's funny that the Veil is portrayed in this way when those that are of weak constitution and mental aptitude would be overburdened by the massive power that the Veil has, and thus, yes, would suffer greatly/perish. Remember, such magically charged objects will impart said power on all in the vicinity (including on the environment), and for the Veil, it's done passively like an _open air circuit generator._ By comparison, *_Elder Scrolls_* only do the same when being perused.
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"How do you know this?"
Quite simply, there are any structures like this, everywhere; there is one under a Manchineel tree in the swamplands west of my hometown. Its' magical charge has dwindled significantly, thus it is basically inert, but it was at some point, a portal to the Rift/Void/'Limbo'/Purgatory. The academy I attend also has one, but it's a display-only structural replica at 1:500 scale, made from iron instead of limestone.
The veil is certainly some kind of portal between life and death. However, Sirius was hit with Avada Kedavra and therefor already dead when he fell through it. I suppose I could be remembering wrong, but I had a whole argument with friends about what spell Sirius was actually hit with before falling through the veil and we did check the book. I swore that it was just stupefy and my friend swore it was Avada Kedavra. I remember being really upset because it said Avada Kedavra in the book, but I had not remembered it that way. Now I have to go check the book again... I hope I can find it!
Anyway... I'm not really sure the veil did anything other than act as transport for his soul to the realm of death. Still... I suppose it is possible that whether alive or dead anything that goes through the veil will be sent to the realm of death. If that is the case, I still think one would have to force Voldemort himself, along with ALL of the horcruxes through the veil to fully kill him.
BTW I am still really upset by Sirius' death. First, because Sirius is my favorite character. And second, because the way he died is so confusing and unexplained that it's just infuriating. I'm honestly more upset with how he died than the fact that he died! By a very large margin!
Voldemort trapped on Kings Cross Station, able bodied, with the PA system calling out "Paging Tom Riddle to Platform 9&3/4" but the pathway never opens.
hes at self-checkout and it keeps resetting his order at the last item in a 24/7 shop
Question: why was the Dursley house never protected by the fidelius charm? I haven't read The Author's full explanation, if any of what restrictions there are on the spell itself but Petunia could be the secret keeper. Voldemort and his followers could be right outside the house but wouldn't be able to see it. The only reason the don't use it is because The Author didn't make/introduce the fidelius charm until book 5 and the Weasley's wouldn't have been able to get harry in book 2
I actually was wandering this a few days ago
What if Dippet was still headmaster when Riddle came to apply for the DADA post the second time? Would he have been accepted? What happens if he was?
I’ve only watched the movies and I’m JUST learning the veil killed Sirius 😳
I always wondered why his body just floated away like that 😂😅
If Tom Riddle had known the ring was the resurrection stone the only person he could have possibly called back was Merope.
Worst think he’d be doing is clipping Peter pettigrew’s toe nails forever
I have a question that I have never found the answer too. At what point in Tom riddles life did the snakifying happen? Was it just after his resurrection? Because you would think that one of the death eaters would have been like “wait who are you?” Or was it progressive process as he split his soul? I have so many questions.
well i recall from the books that when he showed up years after leaving the school to apply for the defense against the dark arts position (and cursing it and storing away the diadem horcrux in the room of requirement) that is physical form was already changed and he didn't look like the "handsome boy" anymore. that was after creating a bunch of horcruxes already so i think the change was gradual. scb made a video about that and their theory was that the snakification was a result of his time as a soul inhabiting snakes while hiding away in the albanian forest. the malming of the soul was a result of physical deterioration but he didn't snakify until he lived in snakes for years. this theory makes the most sense to me.
New theory idea! What if Diary Tom had succeeded????
Without knowing *exactly* what the veil is, this question can't be answered.
Also, if both body AND soul are lost in the veil, then the resurrection stone shouldn't've been able to recall Sirius's soul
Diary Tom Riddle has also absorbed some of Ginny's soul.
I was under the impression that limbo was a neutral place
Imagine Voldemort waiting in the lobby of the limbo. I imagine that place has Beetlejuice sitting there with his shrunken head. Then here comes a football team running past them. 😂
3:25 .. if it was the veil they took Sirius life, does that mean he survived the curse ?
If he still had horcruxes, maybe his soul vapors would come out the other side.
What If idea - What if Aunt Petunia had been accepted to Hogwarts?
Dumbledor should have lured Voldemort to the veil to try and send him through it while they were there. Or perhaps the reason he didnt is because he was sure that it wouldnt have killed Voldemort.
Maybe it could destroy Voldemort's body and soul but that wouldn't affect the existing horcruxes, who would have the possibility of pulling a TR diary and try to regenarate.
Here's how I see it: If one of Voldemort's horcruxes were thrown into the veil, the fragment of soul within that horcrux would be permanently stuck in the land of the dead, BUT that does not mean Voldemort would get to experience a normal afterlife through that piece of his soul because that piece of his soul, like all the other pieces, is maimed. The ability to enjoy the afterlife is dependent on the soul being whole. So basically, the part of Voldemort's soul on the other side of the veil would be like that suffering demonic fetus thing Harry saw in King's Cross while the rest of Voldemort in the land of the living would just continue going about his life, and although Voldemort suffers the consequences of having a fragmented soul, the living part of him is oblivious to the specific suffering of the fragment of him in the land of the dead.
You describe Voldemort in King's Cross as being in limbo but Voldemort isn't suffering because he's in limbo, he's suffering because his soul is fragmented, as evident by Harry temporarily occupying the same realm and not suffering.
What is happening to Voldemort in Limbo: Reliving the destruction of each of the horcruxes and himself, not having enough time or relief to understand what he needs to do to pass on to the afterlife.
The funny side: souls passing through Limbo get to sightsee the dark wizard that thought he could beat death, with a nearby plaque that had put up by a certain mischievous poltergeist from Hogwarts: No one gets out of life alive.
So what if voldemort realized at 16 that the gaunt ring was the resurrection sins and managed to use it before he committed many of his real crimes
Writing this as I watch the video, so I hope it's not answered here, but I'm wondering if Voldemort could come back as a ghost. Based on what Sir Nicholas said to Harry, I think it's absolutely something that he would choose.
Voldemort limbo is reading the cursed child :P
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Can ghosts see thestrals??
Don't see why not.
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I figure a horcrux or two through the Veil, then shoot Big V. He'll have as much tying him to the realm of the dead as the world of the living. Perpetual limbo, until those horcruxes start getting found and popped. Definitely take him out of the game.
Does voldermort have any hair? If so can poly juice potion be extracted?
Still waiting on what would happen if the stone was in the mirror of arasaid but the mirror was broken before Harry could get it out..... changes alot imo
He’d be chewing on a well done steak forever.
Voldemort, a witch doctor, and Betelgeuse walk into Limbo...
Hmmm... What if a non-living horcrux was tossed through the veil's arch and the soul was removed and the item purified? 🤔
What would happen if the master kf the elder wsnd went though th vsil. Would it make the wand useless ?
was binge watching j vs ben to get ready to the same with my sister and BOOM a new theory! let’s go, brotheeeers!
When I think of his Limbo I like to think he’s a teenager again in hogwarts but he’s Filches assistant (janitor) cause he is also a squib and he lives forever in limbo never being able to do magic and forever feeling inferior
Here is my answer to this question. In order to tell whether Voldemort would be killed, I must first explain the nature of death and what causes it to happen naturally, so that I can try to understand how the veil works. Secondly, I must explain how I believe that the veil is connected to death. Lastly, I must explain whether the effects of the veil would be able to kill Voldemort.
I believe that aging is merely a human's body trying to reset itself to when the person was a kid. As such, a natural death would be little more than the de-aging process taking out vital organs in its reset, therefore rendering the body dead. The reason I say this is because aging causes a lot of weakening of previously alive systems. In addition, it is a slow process than can take years to happen. That would mean that death is simply a reset for our bodies while we wait for the manifestation of our new bodies. (I believe that it is similar to what happens with doctor who, but with the body being regenerated into the person's youthful body, and not another form). What this means to me is that death is simply when the key systems fail and end up resetting themselves.
As for the veil, I don't think that it is death, nor do I believe that it was intended to represent death. It seems to me that the veil is simply an accelerated version of the de-aging process that vaporizes the body as its systems reset. The reason I say this is because people cannot pass through from the other side, though their voices can be heard. The veil must have been made to cause death in a humane and caring way. Therefore, I think that the magic of the veil is merely causing the person's cells to mutate back to the way they were before they were born. The reason I believe that is because the body disappears along with the soul, unlike how it would in a more normal death. If there is no body, then something must have happened to it while it was being taken to the soul world. However, regardless of how it operates, the veil must be some sort of killing machine, like a magical gallows or guillotine.
So, would the veil be able to kill Voldemort? As I've already described above, the veil brings about death as a result of resetting the person's body in a way that is similar to aging. But would Voldemort be able to age so much that he just dies? His body would die, but he would not be destroyed while he had the horcruxes. Remember that Voldemort survived his rebounding curse, which destroyed his former body. I believe that while his body would "pass on," he would not. As for the horcrux, I think it would likely pass on, with or without its container. If Sirius passed on with his clothes, I have no doubt that the horcrux container could also go through, taking the soul with it. So, it would work as a horcrux destroyer but not as a weapon that could be used against a horcrux maker.
I have a feeling that if the main Voldemort were to die a permanent death then his horcruxes would have taken on a semi parasitic nature. Lured weak-minded individuals into using them & slowly transforming each of them into a new dark lord. Leading upto a 6 or 7 way battle to see who the true dark lord will be
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What would have happened to Harry if he had passed through the veil? Would he have died or come back to life?
Hmm...not sure if this would be popular or you guys will even see it...but what if Harry accepted Voldemorts offer in the first book of giving up the stone in exchange for bringing back his parents?...Could Harry AND Voldemort conquer death and bring back people from death??
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Maybe if Voldemort Prime went into the Veil he wouldn't die, but would lose himself. Think a Hollow from Dark Souls
seeing harry every were he look but can;t move
Nobody short of Dumby could ever possibly blast Voldemort through the veil. He Fought Dumbledore in that building whilst Dumbledore was master of the Elder wand. The question you need to be asking, is why didn’t Dumbledore destroy Voldemort’s body in that scene? He could have. He was the master of the elder wand and his nonchalant attitude proved that he knew it. He wouldn’t have died, but he would have been less than the meanest ghost yet again. Fight me.
I wonder, what would happen if a ghost were to pass through the veil? :)
What would happen if a ghost went though the veil?
The veil could kill voldimort but only the section of soul you destroyed
Plot twist the philosophers stone is a horcrux (yes I know this is incredibly unlikely)
What Dumbledore says doesn't make sense to me. I see no reason why they couldn't have tried to destroy his body first, and while he is in that less "than a spirit state" after the destruction of his physical body destroy his horcruxes while he's no longer a nuisance. His "spirit" would still be around, sure, but I'd think when all his horcruxes were destroyed he would no longer have an anchor to this world and then his spirit would just be released from this world.
Limbo is the constant anxiety of being next to do your speech
It would have been cool if it auto killed all the cruxes but left his body and one soul piece alive
Ay this is an interesting idea!