Very glad you kept the safety message in the video. I’m super careful except when I’m not. I do woodworking because I love it. I’ve had some similar lucky situations. If you’ve watched Ted Lasso you know that “Football is life!” In my case, my kids and my partner “are life!” And “skiing is life”. Many of our woodworking tasks have some pretty big risks and accidents can happen quickly so being present and aware and in the moment are all aspects of our Hobby/work that must be front of mind all the time.
I'm just starting woodworking with my son. Three years ago we lost our oldest son who was mom's boy. My remaining son has always been a dad's boy and I didn't have much in common with him. We are using this season to connect through woodworking and I am so grateful for the time we spend out in the shop. The downfall is that I am terrified of most of the equipment out there. I have been consuming hundreds and hundreds of hours of TH-cam videos on (table saw, especially as we have an ancient one with practically zero safety features on it) safety in the shop. Thank you for not editing out your accident because it is now something I will put on my checklist when I go to the saws. Hopefully, I get over my fears sooner than later. I'm glad you weren't terribly hurt!
I'm glad to hear that you have discovered a way to bond with him and I truly think that woodworking will be a great opportunity for that. I'll tell you what.......you are NOT the first person to tell me about their fears of different power tools and for many people, it is a very warranted feeling. I'm going to make a video in the next couple of days designed for YOU and everyone else who shares those fears. I hope that it will help. I will ensure that I provide you with the link when I publish it....just in case you're not a subscriber. Thanks for sharing and watching.
@@angrybeaverwoodworks I appreciate that so much! Thank you! One thing that always seems to happen to me, and I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong, is that my miter saw (of all things) kicks back at me. It doesn't do it when my husband or son use it and I'm not really sure why it seems to want to eat my hand specifically. Our table saw is just a death trap and we're working on saving up for a new one. I keep seeing that darn Saw Stop and love the idea of it. We'll keep socking away pennies for that and in the meantime, I'll learn as much as I can about safety on the demon we currently own! My son has Asperger's and sometimes gets distracted, so I'll be teaching him what I learn as well!
@@angrybeaverwoodworks And one more thing. It was a fireman in who's arms my oldest boy died. Let me tell you, that you are not appreciated nearly enough. God bless all of you.
Thank you for the video and sharing your knowledge. 6:20 Complacency and inattention can strike at any time unfortunately. Kudos to you for admitting your mistake and sharing with others. I am glad to see luck was on your side and you didn't suffer a serious injury.
Many years ago, ok 40, I was trained as a volunteer EMT and firefighter and I truly appreciate your safety message here. Awesome footage of the blade pulling and throwing that aluminum rule -- very happy for you that there was no injury! But, whoa, I can see how easily a surprise like that could perhaps cause one to jerk the hand away from a thrown piece but maybe right into greater harm, e.g. the spinning blade. Food for thought. As for the cleats -- 4 spots in my tool room have cleats with about the same spacing as you show and they work for me so far. 2 of my existing spots had pegboard over studs and I ran the cleats right over the pegboard -- so I can still use my old pegboard hooks for some things, like hammers and hand saws.
Just came across your channel. Thank you for all your information. I am a retired firefighter from Georgia. Scene safety and keeping mindful of how we are involved in the situation is first and foremost in our line of work. Your segment on the accident and safety concerns was most appreciated. Accidents will happen. Praise God you were not injured. I am currently in the process of redoing my shop. Organization is my main concern. I too have a small shop that I work out of but the French Cleat system will be my main focus on redoing the shop. Thank you again for your information into this. It was most helpful.
Great video. I worked with heavy equipment for many years and have had to pull a few people from equipment because they became to complacent. Some lost fingers. Others lost a limb. Hopefully this unedited video will show people what can happen if they stop paying attention. I came here for the French Cleats, but left with much more. Thanks for sharing.
One thing I appreciate about TH-cam Woodworkers is that they are humble and don't edit out their "fumbles." I've seen so many "near disasters" by proficient woodworkers, it just reinforces how dangerous this is. I am brand new to woodworking. Quite frankly, I'm nervous every time a blade spins. Anyone who gets hurt can never say they weren't warned! I think you should shadow box your ruler and end every video with a thumbnail and link to this safety lesson)
Glad you showed the effect of being careless with tools! I've been in construction about 50 years and still have my original eyes and fingers, but have seen on job sights some of the most horrible blood gushers and fingers fly as well as hands and feet nailed to boards! A friend was killed by his router bit that shot through his chest because he didn't check the wood for existing screws! Same can happen with a table saw.....Love the video!
Good for you sharing your safety message. I’m a safety professional and people don’t understand how important it is. You and your brother stay safe out there 👍🏼
I watched a guy walk up to me on the back stage of a theater set with all four of his right hand fingers dangling off the back of his hand by skin only. It was a real life horror movie and I went into shock just seeing it. I can't begin to say how grateful I am for your integrity on this platform. You really earned a huge deposit at the trust-bank of Michael Amos. You are the real deal, sir.
Thank you for being honest and helping us learn from your mistake. Please be more careful, we only got one of you and we need you for when we make our mistakes.
Thanks for the safety part. My daughter (Mother of three) has started crafting. I got her a 12" chop saw and your video will go a long way to reinforce her beliefs that "dad" was right with his warnings. Thanks again. Oh yeah, also thanks for the cleat instructions.
I appreciate you leaving in the safety issues. It makes things real and makes us all check ourselves when it comes to safety. Glad you didn’t lose a finger or worse.
THANK YOU for showing the ease in which a person can be seriously injured; even killed, by mistakes w a chop, table, circular, jig, sawzall etc. Great to see you still have all your fingers brother, and that left side chunk of now sharp as a razor aluminum flew so far so fast we couldn't see where it went or how it got there, either. As a former paramedic, I've stood next to a lot of firefighters in my time, and treated a number of them too. I hear you loud and clear, and if more ppl understood the dangerousness of many of the things they do, there'd be a lot less death and injury in the world. Before my four kids each got their driver's license, I told every one of them this: "go outside and run as fast as you directly into a tree, oh, and with your arms down, by the way. What, you think that's stupid and you don't wanna? The average person runs about 20 miles an hour, and you're scared to do that. Interesting thing about speed is that as it increases, you could run double that speed -40 mph- the impact isn't double, it's squared and the impact is actually 1,600 times more powerful." Suffice it to say, none of them - and one of them is now 43 - have had either a speeding ticket or an accident due to speed. Thank you again for showing the ease of potential injury, and if you aren't deeply respectful and carry a healthy dose of fear whenever you stand in front of a table or chop saw, I don't want you in my shop, and frankly, you ought to get out of the job before you're maimed or killed; I don't want to clean up the mess, either.
Fellow Fireman (retired U.K.) here. Vital to show how easy it is to have an accident with power tools. All it takes is a momentary lack of attention or a distraction and you’ve lost a finger or two. My comment is about using the mitre saw using your left hand on the saw and right on the wood. I’m right handed and try to always cut from the other side. My right hand on the saw, it just feels way more comfortable, I feel cramped if I’m on the other side and there is a danger of moving your right hand too close to the blade being right handed. Keep up the good work brother.
Ty for your service, God Bless and stay safe..... you now have another subscriber!!! I just started getting into woodworking ( due to remodeling a bathroom) I'm a Master Electrician of 30 yrs and also was the Safety Director for a Power Line Company so.... I truly know how quickly small accidents can turn into something BIG!!
Huge respect for leaving in your mistake! I'm not a first responder, but my degree is in public safety / emergency management and I work in Business Continuity, so I'm always thinking about "what can go wrong here?" I'm always trying to learn from other people's mistakes so I don't have to learn from my own. It's a mark of maturity to offer your own mistakes for others to learn from. {buys you a virtual beer}
Thank you for including your nearly tragic accident in this video about French Cleats the way you did. For me, it really drove home the point about maintaining a "clutter free" work environment in a workshop and most especially anywhere near power equipment. - New Subscriber
Thank you for the kind words. I was stuck on whether to include that segment or not. But many people say that they are glad that I did. I sometimes struggle with the "clutter free" approach. I get caught up in the moment and I'm sure that many other's do as well. I'm sure that it is something we all need to focus on more often. Thank you for subscribing - More content coming soon
Subscribed; stopped by for your French Cleat take but staying because First Responders have my heart, several on both sides of my family. You guys and gals have been there for me too on 3 occasions (just aging medical, not shop related at least yet). I appreciate your occupation so I'll hang around for your side hustle, or encore, or whatever the beaver is angry about, thanks again!
I'm so glad you are okay! I felt like I was watching an OSHA violation with you were using the table saw for cutting the cleats. It's safer to use a pushing tool and not your hands when making those cleat cuts.
Thanks for the sharing. I’ll try your second option for the French cleats. I appreciate that you show this « mistake », instead of hiding it like most of the others. Safety first ! I always wear safety shoes in my workshop. 😉 Bons copeaux (from France)
I’m grateful to you for sharing your accident. I will keep it in mind, especially when I start getting bored a couple hours into making the same cuts again and again.
Excellent video, information. You were very lucky, you could have been severely injured. It happens to a lot of people. I have one rule, check before cutting.
Respect for not editing out the mistake @ the saw. All who've worked with tools have had a moment like that. Growing up in an area that was predominantly AG and wood mill, along with most of my family in the trades. I know the price folks pay from either not paying closer attention, to not respecting the equipment they're using. Some lost body parts, some have permanent disabilities, & others lost of life. Folks may roll their eyes having to listen to the "safety talk" on a video, I believe it's best to be reminded. Had the blade kicked everything back out (which usually happens), you and anyone near you could have been seriously injured or killed. I'm glad the worse you got was a little damage to your equipment and a small embarrassing but very teachable moment.
Thank you for the kind words. Yes, it could have been really bad. The safety talk went a bit too long, but many people are thankful. Glad you enjoyed the video.
Thank you so much for your service as a firefighter and for being honest about the complacency that can lead to very serious injuries. Are you happy with your choice of French Cleats, or would you have installed the double bevel instead?
Thank you so very much for not editing this out. Im just starting and want to do the French cleat system on one of my walls. Just bought my first miter saw and getting ready to purchase my first table saw, to be honest it does scare me as I know NOTHING about it. Have wanted to get into woodworking since I was very young. Now I. Have recently retired and questioning myself. Again, Thank you.
Thank you for the kind words. I'm glad that you liked the video. I encourage you to look up videos with PROPER techniques for your tools. Their are great channels out there that can help you.
I did the double bevel. I attached my bottom row of cleats. Then I took a cleat, set it in the bottom row, then put another cleat on top of the second one. Finish nailed the third cleat to the wall. I continued this process all the way up the wall. In fact I didn’t even measure the bottom row. I eyeballed where it should go, put a screw in one end and used my level to put a screw in the other end. I have 3 columns of 4 cleates perfectly spaced. I can easily go lower or higher from there. I have an 8” piece of cleat I saved to set up my table saw to rip more. You are correct when doing the double bevel method the sacrificial fence is very important. As for the mishap. First I am glad you didn’t get hurt. I got concerned about clutter by the saws a couple months ago. I set up a small tool temporary table ( garbage can with 2’x2’ scrap of plywood on top) next to the table saw and next to the miter saw to prevent tool clutter too close to the spinning blade.
I'm glad that the double bevel method has worked out for you. I'm sure that you will love it. I was thinking about designing some kind of tool caddy to keep tools away from spinning boards. Might do a video for that in the future. Let me know how those cleats work for you.
@@angrybeaverwoodworks I have been building the wall from several months. The cleats work great I have built 16 tool holders. Heaviest are belt sanders or circular saw. Lightest drill bit and drivers. Most interesting dado sets. I typically look at what others have done the figure what works for me. The Dado set holders can stand on the workbench. This way while in use they are near the saw and chippers and spacers aren’t scattered everywhere. The circular saw holder was made to grab and go, I hated wrestling it out of the injected molded box I used for decades…
@@lincolndickerson1293 Very nice. Sounds like you're making great progress. I still have alot of assembly brackets to make for all of my tools, but it's coming along. The heaviest item that I have on my walls is a 50lb dust collection motor. It's held using the 2 cleat method, but so far so good. Keep up the great work and thanks for sharing
i had a similar situation using a drop cloth outdoors to cover the saw between cuts. i had the cloth in the same position as your ruler. i made a pull cut and drew the cloth into the blade. Exact same result, the cloth was torn into two pieces instantly and pulled my hand into the blade guard. needless to say the heart was pumping after that incident. change the undies and back to it.
That must have been very scary. I'm glad that you are okay. I once had a friend's hand get pulled in because he was wearing gloves and it caught the fabric. Very bad stuff. Thanks for watching and commenting.
I have no issues with admitting my own faults and mistakes. Especially if it helps people avoid them. Thanks for sharing and watching..... And for subscribing, lots more on the way.
Great tutorial. I used Gladiator GarageWorks GearWall - a modern variation of the french-cleat system by Whirlpool. Install your slats floor-to-ceiling or counter-to-ceiling AND corner-to-corner. This obviously is more costly and time-consuming, but it creates endless shop organization options.
I had similar wake up call when a router threw a bit. I was too aggressive on the cut to save time and, thankfully, it missed me. I have keep the bit with the bent shaft as a reminder. I suggest you do the same with your ruler.
A router bit ????? That is CRAZY. I can only imagine, especially with the high RPMs. I'm glad that you were not hurt by it. I did keep the yard stick. Might put it on the wall.
@@angrybeaverwoodworks Yeah, it really was scary. I think I will embed the offending bit in clear resin in my workbench to be constant reminder. I also retired the router.
Man oh man, your beaver was really angry this time! LOL Thanks, for sharing the important lesson involved. I have been using axes, chainsaws, and woodworking tool of many kinds since I was about 8 years old, way back in the 50's. The chainsaws and woodworking tools were delayed until the 60's. However, I still have all my fingers and toes even though I almost removed a big toe with an ax when I was 8. It was close.... Anyway, thanks for the pause...
Many occasions, fear is a mind-alerter, not a mind-killer. Everything in proportion. Stay (proportionally) afraid of powertools! Thanks for keeping the footage and scaring us straight, so we hopefully don't have to experience it. Btw, I had a similar moment with cutting a too-short piece of wood on a miter saw. It had too little registering surface on the bed, reducing the moment-arm advantage you usually get. Nearly sucked in my left hand, which was holding the keep-part.
I hope that you didn't get hurt in the process. Many people said that I should mount my broken ruler up on the wall. Thank you for watching and commenting.
Many thanks for the informative video. I've been researching French Cleats on TH-cam for a while now and just came across your video this morning. The 'double bevel' option really interest me in terms of it's simplicity and ease of making / installation. I really couldn't see a down side, so I decided to rig a sample version up this morning and test it out for myself. I've got to say that it was so simple to make and install, but the really impressive part was seeing how secure the cleat holders were. Am I missing something? Are you aware of any negatives over the single bevel design and if not, why would anyone consider anything else? Great video and glad your ok.
I am not aware of any negative towards the dual bevel style. I stumbled on that option at my friend's woodshop. He stated that it was a little difficult to install and maintain level, but maybe he was doing it wrong. Many people have had great success with the dual bevel. I'm glad that you like them. Thank you for sharing and watching
When you were midway in on the safety lesson I clicked the like- thanks! I am a beginner woodworker and I'm afraid of any type of circular saw and I hope I stay afraid of them and just use the bandsaw and jigsaw ... happy with those for what I want to do for now anyway.... I watched that over and over- how the ruler wasn't even in the exact path but got sucked in... wow!
Everyone was a beginner woodworker at some point. I've been doing woodwork for over 20 years and I still wouldn't call myself a master. There is always something to learn. Truthfully, hand-held circular saws are probably the most dangerous tool that people use because it is the most affected by human error. I will be making a video soon about proper use of a circular saw and other saws as well. I hope that you will find them useful. I'm glad you like the video and thank you for viewing.
@@angrybeaverwoodworksYeah any tool with a circular blade I tend to have a bit of a fear about - I have a mini circular saw and any time I took it out with a brave determination, I put it away and said ok forget that tool sure I can do without it anyway lol
I’m in the process of trying to plan out my shop vac and what that entails I would like to have it run to each tool for collection and then an area that I can sweep it up into for the floor.
Howdie great l ain't the only dummy that does dum things were human things happen we are in hurry gotta get it done another project to do thanks for sharing what ya did but life goes on ya got this hopefully we learn from this l,m mecnec not carpenter so will be watching more on tools that can hurt ya like mechanics tools can so thks joined up for more !! Oppss cause they do from Canada 🇨🇦 SK later keep it up 😊
I noticed you mentioned putting in a 240V outlet, which is our standard voltage in Australia. I understand North America uses 110V. Are there situations there that use 240 as well? Where are you based?
American homes and other buildings are often wired with 120V and 240V circuits. many of my small hand tools and other items work with 120V circuits, but I needed to create a 240V circuit for my large dust collection system. It all depends on the items you're going to be using and the power requirements here in the USA. I am currently based in the State of Georgia. I hope this helps
I sincerely apologize for the delay. I've been extremely busy. That is a GREAT question. I have had a few fires over the years that were most likely started due to oily rags. Linseed oil and products containing linseed oil are usually the worst culprit, but other oils may spontaneously combust as well if the conditions are right. I usually will lay my rags outside, flat on the ground, and let them air and dry for approximately 2 days before bagging them. And then I throw them into my yellow metal FIRE containment trash can for another week before putting them in a regular trash can.
Regarding the accident...I did same thing...only with a plastic tape measure!!!...blew shrapnel all over the shop!!! I have same bad habit of laying the measuring device in front of saw.
Love it - great vid - thanks for sharing yr SNAFU - in all a great vid with a real lesson but - never underestimate the power of tools used wrongly .. so you have two rulers ... but all 10 fingers
Thank you. I hope that you are ready for the release of the French Cleat Tips and Tricks video. It is loaded with ALOT of additional information. That video will be published within the next few days. I hope that you watch and enjoy. Thanks for sharing
I don't think that you should have any issues. I would suggest trying out a small test section and testing with a heavy object. See how it performs. And I would also recommend paying close attention to any areas with knots in your lumber. This may cause a fault in that area. Let me know how it goes. Thanks for watching and commenting
Only wear gloves when using some hand power tools. Stationary tools (table saw, miter saw, router table, etc.) where your hand position is constantly changing in relation to the bit/blade should not include gloves. Too easy to catch the glove and be pulled into the tool.
Personally I think his rails are way too close together, waste of wood and money. I would suggest eliminating every other one, if you do so and decide later you want them that packed you can add the missing ones. If you are not sure about french cleats at all, try just putting in one rail first, do one very close to the ceiling, equivalent of the top rail in his example. That 'zone' is the most underutilized for most. There are always bulky things that would be nice to have out of the way but in plain sight - in my garage that includes a drain auger, clock, hat collection, tube benders, thermoses, spare speakers, 4' light tubes, etc --- just goofy stuff that is hard to store and easy to forget. Finally, if you have one and you're not sure if your floor is level, use a laser level to install the first run, then spacers thereafter.
I have mine set up almost the same as his. You're able to rearrange things alot better. And I think that spacing the cleats together like that makes it easier to design things. You don't have to worry about adding a spacer block on the back..... Just my thoughts.
I think that having too much space between cleats is a waste of wall space. The more cleats, the more options vertically where to hang items. Also, the cleat below can help support the tool fixture with having to put a spacer on the lower edge of the fixture.
Good video, but a quick note: be careful of your background music choices. The comical music you played during your serious explanation of safety completely belied the entire point. But thanks for being honest and sharing that info, nonetheless.
@5:35 You really shouldn't be using any power tools with loose fitting clothing. It's almost like wearing a necktie and operating a router, or a plainer.
I appreciate the video but please please lower the volume of the music or dont add any, doesn't seem neccessary to have music playing in the background while you're explaining things.
Get some sort of push blocks/sticks etc or you're gonna lose a finger, fingers, or a hand on that table saw!!! I read about a firefighter that had a kickback and the wood dragged his hand across the blade and SHREDDED his hand. No work of several years, and several hundred dollars worth of surgery, and physical/occupational therapy still has limited use of his right hand.
Yep..... Had to throw it in a the trash and get a new one. Some people suggested that I mount it on the wall....lol. Thank s for watching. Lots more on the way.
Very glad you kept the safety message in the video. I’m super careful except when I’m not. I do woodworking because I love it. I’ve had some similar lucky situations. If you’ve watched Ted Lasso you know that “Football is life!” In my case, my kids and my partner “are life!” And “skiing is life”. Many of our woodworking tasks have some pretty big risks and accidents can happen quickly so being present and aware and in the moment are all aspects of our Hobby/work that must be front of mind all the time.
I think that I went on TOO LONG of a rant, and I apologize for that. But thank you for the support and kind words.
I'm just starting woodworking with my son. Three years ago we lost our oldest son who was mom's boy. My remaining son has always been a dad's boy and I didn't have much in common with him. We are using this season to connect through woodworking and I am so grateful for the time we spend out in the shop. The downfall is that I am terrified of most of the equipment out there. I have been consuming hundreds and hundreds of hours of TH-cam videos on (table saw, especially as we have an ancient one with practically zero safety features on it) safety in the shop. Thank you for not editing out your accident because it is now something I will put on my checklist when I go to the saws. Hopefully, I get over my fears sooner than later. I'm glad you weren't terribly hurt!
I'm glad to hear that you have discovered a way to bond with him and I truly think that woodworking will be a great opportunity for that. I'll tell you what.......you are NOT the first person to tell me about their fears of different power tools and for many people, it is a very warranted feeling. I'm going to make a video in the next couple of days designed for YOU and everyone else who shares those fears. I hope that it will help. I will ensure that I provide you with the link when I publish it....just in case you're not a subscriber. Thanks for sharing and watching.
@@angrybeaverwoodworks I appreciate that so much! Thank you! One thing that always seems to happen to me, and I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong, is that my miter saw (of all things) kicks back at me. It doesn't do it when my husband or son use it and I'm not really sure why it seems to want to eat my hand specifically. Our table saw is just a death trap and we're working on saving up for a new one. I keep seeing that darn Saw Stop and love the idea of it. We'll keep socking away pennies for that and in the meantime, I'll learn as much as I can about safety on the demon we currently own! My son has Asperger's and sometimes gets distracted, so I'll be teaching him what I learn as well!
@@angrybeaverwoodworks And one more thing. It was a fireman in who's arms my oldest boy died. Let me tell you, that you are not appreciated nearly enough. God bless all of you.
Thank you for the video and sharing your knowledge.
6:20 Complacency and inattention can strike at any time unfortunately. Kudos to you for admitting your mistake and sharing with others. I am glad to see luck was on your side and you didn't suffer a serious injury.
Many years ago, ok 40, I was trained as a volunteer EMT and firefighter and I truly appreciate your safety message here. Awesome footage of the blade pulling and throwing that aluminum rule -- very happy for you that there was no injury! But, whoa, I can see how easily a surprise like that could perhaps cause one to jerk the hand away from a thrown piece but maybe right into greater harm, e.g. the spinning blade. Food for thought. As for the cleats -- 4 spots in my tool room have cleats with about the same spacing as you show and they work for me so far. 2 of my existing spots had pegboard over studs and I ran the cleats right over the pegboard -- so I can still use my old pegboard hooks for some things, like hammers and hand saws.
Thanks for taking the pause in this video. My dad was a fire fighter as well and I can relate to the experiences. We all need a reminder.
Just came across your channel. Thank you for all your information. I am a retired firefighter from Georgia. Scene safety and keeping mindful of how we are involved in the situation is first and foremost in our line of work. Your segment on the accident and safety concerns was most appreciated. Accidents will happen. Praise God you were not injured. I am currently in the process of redoing my shop. Organization is my main concern. I too have a small shop that I work out of but the French Cleat system will be my main focus on redoing the shop. Thank you again for your information into this. It was most helpful.
I have to give you a bunch of cred for showing that ruler accident. It can happen really fast and to anyone. Thanks for that reminder.
My channel is based on the idea of NEVER hiding flaws, mistakes, or accidents. Thank you for the kind words. I'm glad that you like the video.
Great video. I worked with heavy equipment for many years and have had to pull a few people from equipment because they became to complacent. Some lost fingers. Others lost a limb. Hopefully this unedited video will show people what can happen if they stop paying attention. I came here for the French Cleats, but left with much more. Thanks for sharing.
Thank you for the kind words. I'm glad that you liked the video
One thing I appreciate about TH-cam Woodworkers is that they are humble and don't edit out their "fumbles." I've seen so many "near disasters" by proficient woodworkers, it just reinforces how dangerous this is. I am brand new to woodworking. Quite frankly, I'm nervous every time a blade spins. Anyone who gets hurt can never say they weren't warned! I think you should shadow box your ruler and end every video with a thumbnail and link to this safety lesson)
Thank you for being real and sharing the mistakes and safety also, I think we all need to be constantly reminded of safety first.
Thank you for watching and for the kind comment. I'm glad that you enjoyed it
I appreciate you not editing the accident out of the video. Great safety reminder for others. Glad you didn't hurt yourself. New subscriber here.
same here
Thanks for the cleat alternatives. Never thought about it. I'm in the midst of planning my workshop before I dig in 😊
Glad you showed the effect of being careless with tools! I've been in construction about 50 years and still have my original eyes and fingers, but have seen on job sights some of the most horrible blood gushers and fingers fly as well as hands and feet nailed to boards! A friend was killed by his router bit that shot through his chest because he didn't check the wood for existing screws! Same can happen with a table saw.....Love the video!
I'm truly sorry to hear about your friend. It's sad that accidents like that happen. Thank you for sharing
Good for you sharing your safety message. I’m a safety professional and people don’t understand how important it is. You and your brother stay safe out there 👍🏼
I watched a guy walk up to me on the back stage of a theater set with all four of his right hand fingers dangling off the back of his hand by skin only. It was a real life horror movie and I went into shock just seeing it. I can't begin to say how grateful I am for your integrity on this platform. You really earned a huge deposit at the trust-bank of Michael Amos. You are the real deal, sir.
Thanks for covering the intermission. Glad to hear this discussed. We all need prompting. Thanks for covering safety first!!!
Thank you for being honest and helping us learn from your mistake. Please be more careful, we only got one of you and we need you for when we make our mistakes.
Thank you for the kind words. And thank you for watching. I will gladly continue to show my future mistakes
Thanks for the safety part. My daughter (Mother of three) has started crafting. I got her a 12" chop saw and your video will go a long way to reinforce her beliefs that "dad" was right with his warnings. Thanks again. Oh yeah, also thanks for the cleat instructions.
Thanx for the safety reminder. I'm glad you're OK.
Thank you for the kind words. Hope you enjoyed the video
So glad you were not hurt or injured. Stay safe and have fun building the french cleat accessories now.
Yes....There are going to be ALOT of accessories and brackets to make now. You'll see more of that in the near future.
Got a different lesson than I thought I would but very worth it. Thanks for keeping the safety message included.
I appreciate you leaving in the safety issues. It makes things real and makes us all check ourselves when it comes to safety. Glad you didn’t lose a finger or worse.
I'm glad that I still have my fingers as well. Thanks for watching
THANK YOU for showing the ease in which a person can be seriously injured; even killed, by mistakes w a chop, table, circular, jig, sawzall etc. Great to see you still have all your fingers brother, and that left side chunk of now sharp as a razor aluminum flew so far so fast we couldn't see where it went or how it got there, either. As a former paramedic, I've stood next to a lot of firefighters in my time, and treated a number of them too. I hear you loud and clear, and if more ppl understood the dangerousness of many of the things they do, there'd be a lot less death and injury in the world.
Before my four kids each got their driver's license, I told every one of them this: "go outside and run as fast as you directly into a tree, oh, and with your arms down, by the way. What, you think that's stupid and you don't wanna? The average person runs about 20 miles an hour, and you're scared to do that. Interesting thing about speed is that as it increases, you could run double that speed -40 mph- the impact isn't double, it's squared and the impact is actually 1,600 times more powerful." Suffice it to say, none of them - and one of them is now 43 - have had either a speeding ticket or an accident due to speed.
Thank you again for showing the ease of potential injury, and if you aren't deeply respectful and carry a healthy dose of fear whenever you stand in front of a table or chop saw, I don't want you in my shop, and frankly, you ought to get out of the job before you're maimed or killed; I don't want to clean up the mess, either.
Thanks for the reminder! Safety first!!
Fellow Fireman (retired U.K.) here. Vital to show how easy it is to have an accident with power tools. All it takes is a momentary lack of attention or a distraction and you’ve lost a finger or two. My comment is about using the mitre saw using your left hand on the saw and right on the wood. I’m right handed and try to always cut from the other side. My right hand on the saw, it just feels way more comfortable, I feel cramped if I’m on the other side and there is a danger of moving your right hand too close to the blade being right handed. Keep up the good work brother.
Ty for your service, God Bless and stay safe..... you now have another subscriber!!! I just started getting into woodworking ( due to remodeling a bathroom) I'm a Master Electrician of 30 yrs and also was the Safety Director for a Power Line Company so.... I truly know how quickly small accidents can turn into something BIG!!
Huge respect for leaving in your mistake! I'm not a first responder, but my degree is in public safety / emergency management and I work in Business Continuity, so I'm always thinking about "what can go wrong here?" I'm always trying to learn from other people's mistakes so I don't have to learn from my own. It's a mark of maturity to offer your own mistakes for others to learn from.
{buys you a virtual beer}
Thank you for the kind words. I'm glad you liked the video. I try to focus on mistakes and flaws and showcase how to avoid and/or repair problems.
deja vu with the ruler, did exactly the same but i ended up at A&E with a split thumb, luckily all good again. lesson learned.
Thank you for sharing this.
You are very welcome.
Thank you for including your nearly tragic accident in this video about French Cleats the way you did. For me, it really drove home the point about maintaining a "clutter free" work environment in a workshop and most especially anywhere near power equipment. - New Subscriber
Thank you for the kind words. I was stuck on whether to include that segment or not. But many people say that they are glad that I did. I sometimes struggle with the "clutter free" approach. I get caught up in the moment and I'm sure that many other's do as well. I'm sure that it is something we all need to focus on more often. Thank you for subscribing - More content coming soon
WOW!!!! Thanks for keeping the accident in.
You're welcome. I've had good and bad feedback from the accident scene, but it's all good.
Subscribed; stopped by for your French Cleat take but staying because First Responders have my heart, several on both sides of my family. You guys and gals have been there for me too on 3 occasions (just aging medical, not shop related at least yet). I appreciate your occupation so I'll hang around for your side hustle, or encore, or whatever the beaver is angry about, thanks again!
This is the first of your videos I’ve seen. Well done. Thank you.
I'm so glad you are okay! I felt like I was watching an OSHA violation with you were using the table saw for cutting the cleats. It's safer to use a pushing tool and not your hands when making those cleat cuts.
Good job man. Way to keep it real. Hope I never need you to come pick me up.
I hope not either. Thank you for the kind words and for watching.
Your honestly is impressive and so is the presentation of setting up the French cleats . . .
Thanks for the sharing. I’ll try your second option for the French cleats.
I appreciate that you show this « mistake », instead of hiding it like most of the others.
Safety first !
I always wear safety shoes in my workshop. 😉
Bons copeaux (from France)
Good Luck and you stay safe as well. I think that you will enjoy the outcome of your french cleats.
I’m grateful to you for sharing your accident. I will keep it in mind, especially when I start getting bored a couple hours into making the same cuts again and again.
Good video! Helpful advice on cleats!
Thank you. I hope that it helps
Thanks for the safety confession. Respect there.
You're welcome
Excellent video, information. You were very lucky, you could have been severely injured. It happens to a lot of people. I have one rule, check before cutting.
Good to show this, thanks
You're welcome. Thanks for tuning in
Respect for not editing out the mistake @ the saw. All who've worked with tools have had a moment like that. Growing up in an area that was predominantly AG and wood mill, along with most of my family in the trades. I know the price folks pay from either not paying closer attention, to not respecting the equipment they're using. Some lost body parts, some have permanent disabilities, & others lost of life. Folks may roll their eyes having to listen to the "safety talk" on a video, I believe it's best to be reminded. Had the blade kicked everything back out (which usually happens), you and anyone near you could have been seriously injured or killed. I'm glad the worse you got was a little damage to your equipment and a small embarrassing but very teachable moment.
Thank you for the kind words. Yes, it could have been really bad. The safety talk went a bit too long, but many people are thankful. Glad you enjoyed the video.
Thank you for being REAL!!!
You're welcome. Thank you for watching and for the kind words.
Close call. We’ve all been there. Reality checks are never fun. Hopefully the hard way isn’t the way we learn everything. Keep moving forward. 👍👍
I very much appreciate your humility and keeping it real.
Thank you so much for your service as a firefighter and for being honest about the complacency that can lead to very serious injuries. Are you happy with your choice of French Cleats, or would you have installed the double bevel instead?
Legend! Cheers mate! Good advice.
Thanks. Glad you enjoyed it.
Brilliant mate, good idea to givethe safety warning
Thank you. I've had good and bad feedback from the safety warning, but it's ok. Thanks for watching
Always, safety first. I'm glad you weren't hurt.
Soooooo am I. Could've been bad. Thanks for writing and watching
Thank you so very much for not editing this out. Im just starting and want to do the French cleat system on one of my walls. Just bought my first miter saw and getting ready to purchase my first table saw, to be honest it does scare me as I know NOTHING about it. Have wanted to get into woodworking since I was very young. Now I. Have recently retired and questioning myself. Again, Thank you.
Thank you for the kind words. I'm glad that you liked the video. I encourage you to look up videos with PROPER techniques for your tools. Their are great channels out there that can help you.
@@angrybeaverwoodworks Thank you so much. Have a good weekend..
@@silverfox-59 you're welcome. You too
I did the double bevel. I attached my bottom row of cleats. Then I took a cleat, set it in the bottom row, then put another cleat on top of the second one. Finish nailed the third cleat to the wall. I continued this process all the way up the wall. In fact I didn’t even measure the bottom row. I eyeballed where it should go, put a screw in one end and used my level to put a screw in the other end.
I have 3 columns of 4 cleates perfectly spaced. I can easily go lower or higher from there.
I have an 8” piece of cleat I saved to set up my table saw to rip more.
You are correct when doing the double bevel method the sacrificial fence is very important.
As for the mishap. First I am glad you didn’t get hurt. I got concerned about clutter by the saws a couple months ago. I set up a small tool temporary table ( garbage can with 2’x2’ scrap of plywood on top) next to the table saw and next to the miter saw to prevent tool clutter too close to the spinning blade.
I'm glad that the double bevel method has worked out for you. I'm sure that you will love it. I was thinking about designing some kind of tool caddy to keep tools away from spinning boards. Might do a video for that in the future. Let me know how those cleats work for you.
@@angrybeaverwoodworks I have been building the wall from several months. The cleats work great I have built 16 tool holders. Heaviest are belt sanders or circular saw. Lightest drill bit and drivers. Most interesting dado sets. I typically look at what others have done the figure what works for me. The Dado set holders can stand on the workbench. This way while in use they are near the saw and chippers and spacers aren’t scattered everywhere. The circular saw holder was made to grab and go, I hated wrestling it out of the injected molded box I used for decades…
@@lincolndickerson1293 Very nice. Sounds like you're making great progress. I still have alot of assembly brackets to make for all of my tools, but it's coming along. The heaviest item that I have on my walls is a 50lb dust collection motor. It's held using the 2 cleat method, but so far so good. Keep up the great work and thanks for sharing
@@lincolndickerson1293 th-cam.com/video/L0sYZuZN-Ys/w-d-xo.html May give you so other ideas if you haven't seen it yet.
i had a similar situation using a drop cloth outdoors to cover the saw between cuts. i had the cloth in the same position as your ruler. i made a pull cut and drew the cloth into the blade. Exact same result, the cloth was torn into two pieces instantly and pulled my hand into the blade guard. needless to say the heart was pumping after that incident. change the undies and back to it.
That must have been very scary. I'm glad that you are okay. I once had a friend's hand get pulled in because he was wearing gloves and it caught the fabric. Very bad stuff. Thanks for watching and commenting.
wow, that was scary. glad you are safe.
Thanks for keeping it real.
Dang… just another French cleat video. Thanks for pausing for a minute. I appreciate anyone who admits when their brain farts. Subscribed.
I have no issues with admitting my own faults and mistakes. Especially if it helps people avoid them. Thanks for sharing and watching..... And for subscribing, lots more on the way.
Good job on the safety emphasis.
Great tutorial. I used Gladiator GarageWorks GearWall - a modern variation of the french-cleat system by Whirlpool. Install your slats floor-to-ceiling or counter-to-ceiling AND corner-to-corner. This obviously is more costly and time-consuming, but it creates endless shop organization options.
That's a pretty good idea
I had similar wake up call when a router threw a bit. I was too aggressive on the cut to save time and, thankfully, it missed me. I have keep the bit with the bent shaft as a reminder. I suggest you do the same with your ruler.
A router bit ????? That is CRAZY. I can only imagine, especially with the high RPMs. I'm glad that you were not hurt by it. I did keep the yard stick. Might put it on the wall.
@@angrybeaverwoodworks Yeah, it really was scary. I think I will embed the offending bit in clear resin in my workbench to be constant reminder. I also retired the router.
First time I’ve watched you channel. Nice to meet you.
I'm glad that you are a part of our channel and family. More videos will be posted very soon.
Man oh man, your beaver was really angry this time! LOL Thanks, for sharing the important lesson involved. I have been using axes, chainsaws, and woodworking tool of many kinds since I was about 8 years old, way back in the 50's. The chainsaws and woodworking tools were delayed until the 60's. However, I still have all my fingers and toes even though I almost removed a big toe with an ax when I was 8. It was close.... Anyway, thanks for the pause...
Many occasions, fear is a mind-alerter, not a mind-killer. Everything in proportion. Stay (proportionally) afraid of powertools! Thanks for keeping the footage and scaring us straight, so we hopefully don't have to experience it.
Btw, I had a similar moment with cutting a too-short piece of wood on a miter saw. It had too little registering surface on the bed, reducing the moment-arm advantage you usually get. Nearly sucked in my left hand, which was holding the keep-part.
OMG...i did the same thing with a ruler a while back.
I hope that you didn't get hurt in the process. Many people said that I should mount my broken ruler up on the wall. Thank you for watching and commenting.
Awesome. Thank you for showing that mistake. Glad your okay
Accidents happen fast and they can happen to anybody. Glad to see you're okay.
Yes they do. Thank you for the kind words.
Many thanks for the informative video. I've been researching French Cleats on TH-cam for a while now and just came across your video this morning. The 'double bevel' option really interest me in terms of it's simplicity and ease of making / installation. I really couldn't see a down side, so I decided to rig a sample version up this morning and test it out for myself. I've got to say that it was so simple to make and install, but the really impressive part was seeing how secure the cleat holders were. Am I missing something? Are you aware of any negatives over the single bevel design and if not, why would anyone consider anything else? Great video and glad your ok.
I am not aware of any negative towards the dual bevel style. I stumbled on that option at my friend's woodshop. He stated that it was a little difficult to install and maintain level, but maybe he was doing it wrong. Many people have had great success with the dual bevel. I'm glad that you like them. Thank you for sharing and watching
When you were midway in on the safety lesson I clicked the like- thanks! I am a beginner woodworker and I'm afraid of any type of circular saw and I hope I stay afraid of them and just use the bandsaw and jigsaw ... happy with those for what I want to do for now anyway.... I watched that over and over- how the ruler wasn't even in the exact path but got sucked in... wow!
Everyone was a beginner woodworker at some point. I've been doing woodwork for over 20 years and I still wouldn't call myself a master. There is always something to learn. Truthfully, hand-held circular saws are probably the most dangerous tool that people use because it is the most affected by human error. I will be making a video soon about proper use of a circular saw and other saws as well. I hope that you will find them useful. I'm glad you like the video and thank you for viewing.
@@angrybeaverwoodworksYeah any tool with a circular blade I tend to have a bit of a fear about - I have a mini circular saw and any time I took it out with a brave determination, I put it away and said ok forget that tool sure I can do without it anyway lol
A moment of silence for the ruler... It happens to the best of us, Thank God you have your limbs!😁
Hahahahaha. Now THAT is funny......and true. I really liked that yard stick.
Keep safe sir ... Anyway thank's for the tips
I shall try... Thanks for watching
I’m in the process of trying to plan out my shop vac and what that entails I would like to have it run to each tool for collection and then an area that I can sweep it up into for the floor.
How has the Powertec track worked for you? Thanks!
I absolutely love the powertec tracks. They have been working great.
"I'm gonna get off my soap box, and go change my shorts!". Good lesson, glad you didn't have a catastrophic result!
Howdie great l ain't the only dummy that does dum things were human things happen we are in hurry gotta get it done another project to do thanks for sharing what ya did but life goes on ya got this hopefully we learn from this l,m mecnec not carpenter so will be watching more on tools that can hurt ya like mechanics tools can so thks joined up for more !! Oppss cause they do from Canada 🇨🇦 SK later keep it up 😊
I noticed you mentioned putting in a 240V outlet, which is our standard voltage in Australia. I understand North America uses 110V. Are there situations there that use 240 as well? Where are you based?
American homes and other buildings are often wired with 120V and 240V circuits. many of my small hand tools and other items work with 120V circuits, but I needed to create a 240V circuit for my large dust collection system. It all depends on the items you're going to be using and the power requirements here in the USA. I am currently based in the State of Georgia. I hope this helps
Thanks. Learn something new every day!
As a firefighter how do you recommend we handle oily rags?
I sincerely apologize for the delay. I've been extremely busy. That is a GREAT question. I have had a few fires over the years that were most likely started due to oily rags. Linseed oil and products containing linseed oil are usually the worst culprit, but other oils may spontaneously combust as well if the conditions are right. I usually will lay my rags outside, flat on the ground, and let them air and dry for approximately 2 days before bagging them. And then I throw them into my yellow metal FIRE containment trash can for another week before putting them in a regular trash can.
Regarding the accident...I did same thing...only with a plastic tape measure!!!...blew shrapnel all over the shop!!! I have same bad habit of laying the measuring device in front of saw.
It's a very hard habit to break. Especially when you're caught up in the moment. I hope that you were not hurt.
Love it - great vid - thanks for sharing yr SNAFU - in all a great vid with a real lesson but - never underestimate the power of tools used wrongly .. so you have two rulers ... but all 10 fingers
thank you very much - especially for the "pause" - but for the rest as well
How much space do you have between the cleats? Thanks
I will ensure that I measure them tomorrow when I get back in town and I will let you know.
@@angrybeaverwoodworks Thanks
12 days later, maybe that right thumb didn’t make it after all. 😢
@@kennyknackers6084 I'm still out of town. My plans had to change. I will call my wife today and she can measure it for us.
@@angrybeaverwoodworks sorry mate I’m Australian and was just having a dig , meaning a joke!
good idea to keep the accident
Thank you. I hope that you are ready for the release of the French Cleat Tips and Tricks video. It is loaded with ALOT of additional information. That video will be published within the next few days. I hope that you watch and enjoy. Thanks for sharing
Now you have 2 rulers.
That's true....lol
Instead of plywood 3/4"can i use 1" spruce planck
I don't think that you should have any issues. I would suggest trying out a small test section and testing with a heavy object. See how it performs. And I would also recommend paying close attention to any areas with knots in your lumber. This may cause a fault in that area. Let me know how it goes. Thanks for watching and commenting
Appreciate the video im a beginner
@@aldordoiron1040 you're welcome. Thanks for watching
Are the cleats arched or angled?
They are cut at an angle of 45 degrees.
The cleats will be able to hold more weight, if you screw in the screws a bit higher up 🙂
I split the width based on the backside dimension. That's why they look so low. a stacked double screw idea would've definitely helped as well.
Remember that one time when you didn't wear safety glasses and got a metal sliver in your eyeball.
Yep....I remember that day....lol
Did you the studs in the walls to hang the cleats?
Can you please ask your question again? I want to ensure that I understand your question.
Only wear gloves when using some hand power tools. Stationary tools (table saw, miter saw, router table, etc.) where your hand position is constantly changing in relation to the bit/blade should not include gloves. Too easy to catch the glove and be pulled into the tool.
Very good point. I normally do not wear any gloves, but I could see bad things happening with what you just pointed out. Thanks for sharing
Basically a 4’x8’ sheet covers a 4’x8’ wall area.
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Personally I think his rails are way too close together, waste of wood and money. I would suggest eliminating every other one, if you do so and decide later you want them that packed you can add the missing ones. If you are not sure about french cleats at all, try just putting in one rail first, do one very close to the ceiling, equivalent of the top rail in his example. That 'zone' is the most underutilized for most. There are always bulky things that would be nice to have out of the way but in plain sight - in my garage that includes a drain auger, clock, hat collection, tube benders, thermoses, spare speakers, 4' light tubes, etc --- just goofy stuff that is hard to store and easy to forget. Finally, if you have one and you're not sure if your floor is level, use a laser level to install the first run, then spacers thereafter.
I have mine set up almost the same as his. You're able to rearrange things alot better. And I think that spacing the cleats together like that makes it easier to design things. You don't have to worry about adding a spacer block on the back..... Just my thoughts.
I think that having too much space between cleats is a waste of wall space. The more cleats, the more options vertically where to hang items. Also, the cleat below can help support the tool fixture with having to put a spacer on the lower edge of the fixture.
I've done stupid shit too. Lost the end of a finger using a compound saw 'carelessly'.
Good video, but a quick note: be careful of your background music choices. The comical music you played during your serious explanation of safety completely belied the entire point. But thanks for being honest and sharing that info, nonetheless.
Safety first it's to easy to get complacent.
@5:35
You really shouldn't be using any power tools with loose fitting clothing.
It's almost like wearing a necktie and operating a router, or a plainer.
YES. I don't always practice the best habits. One of these days it'll bite me if I don't change my bad ways. I'm glad that you pointed that out.
I appreciate the video but please please lower the volume of the music or dont add any, doesn't seem neccessary to have music playing in the background while you're explaining things.
Will do. Thanks for the input
Get some sort of push blocks/sticks etc or you're gonna lose a finger, fingers, or a hand on that table saw!!!
I read about a firefighter that had a kickback and the wood dragged his hand across the blade and SHREDDED his hand. No work of several years, and several hundred dollars worth of surgery, and physical/occupational therapy still has limited use of his right hand.
Que the Karen SawStop Safety Officers giving you a lecture of everything you did wrong.
That's pretty funny. They'd go crazy if they knew I was also wearing flip flops
Poor ruler
Yep..... Had to throw it in a the trash and get a new one. Some people suggested that I mount it on the wall....lol. Thank s for watching. Lots more on the way.
@@angrybeaverwoodworks I can't stop talking about French cleats and the brilliant video, my husband is just not getting it.
@@jjish4037 That's funny. Try this newer video
th-cam.com/video/L0sYZuZN-Ys/w-d-xo.html
We all live and die by the whim of the ruler.
I think you need to go get another tattoo freak show.
Omg you messed up…..we all do it. It’s ok. No biggie
Yep.....lol. Thanks for watching