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I couldn’t watch the video due to that very annoying permanent music!

deja vu with the ruler, did exactly the same but i ended up at A&E with a split thumb, luckily all good again. lesson learned.

Thanks for the cleat alternatives. Never thought about it. I'm in the midst of planning my workshop before I dig in 😊

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I own the Woodpeckers 12" and 18" Triangle square *SET.* Flawless victory.

Just came across your channel. Thank you for all your information. I am a retired firefighter from Georgia. Scene safety and keeping mindful of how we are involved in the situation is first and foremost in our line of work. Your segment on the accident and safety concerns was most appreciated. Accidents will happen. Praise God you were not injured. I am currently in the process of redoing my shop. Organization is my main concern. I too have a small shop that I work out of but the French Cleat system will be my main focus on redoing the shop. Thank you again for your information into this. It was most helpful.

Yeah, too many people buy $200 woodpecker squares so they can do nothing more than build a bunch of jigs and fixtures and never really get around to building much else.

Thank you for the video and sharing your knowledge. 6:20 Complacency and inattention can strike at any time unfortunately. Kudos to you for admitting your mistake and sharing with others. I am glad to see luck was on your side and you didn't suffer a serious injury.

Ty for your service, God Bless and stay safe..... you now have another subscriber!!! I just started getting into woodworking ( due to remodeling a bathroom) I'm a Master Electrician of 30 yrs and also was the Safety Director for a Power Line Company so.... I truly know how quickly small accidents can turn into something BIG!!

Can I make a 45 degree cut with it?

I've done stupid shit too. Lost the end of a finger using a compound saw 'carelessly'.

Some dust/dirt in the filter is actually important for better filtration . Just google filter cake and read the longer German wikipedia article with a translator. The filter cake is responsible for 60 to 90% of the actual filtration happening. I'd rather strain the motor than my lungs

Great video, you made it so easy.

Surface plate and three alleged squares: Put the heads of the squares on the surface plate with the blades pointing up. Take each pair of squares (i.e. a b, b c, and c a) and put them back to back and shine a light from behind. If no light escapes between the blades of any pair, all three are perfect. This test actually works with any alleged right angle: 123 blocks, angle plates, etc, If you have a known good reference, you can use a single check, but this is a bootstrap. With a known good reference and a test indicator on a stand with a bumper at the bottom, you can get very good numbers. You use the reference to zero out the test indicator with the bumper up against the base of the stand. Then test it against the alleged square and you can read off any discrepancy directly. The surface plate also lets you test the blades for straightness. Rockler and Woodcraft sell small 9x12 ones for $20-$30.

This is great, thank you. For all the designs I’ve looked at you are the only one who took into account a low profile and so much more importantly, especially on a mobile cart, securing the wood. Subscribed!

Use a marking knife if you want a real accurate line

I agree that iGaging produces tools that are generally well-made at a good price. (But there are a few clunkers.) Many people confuse accuracy with precision. Accuracy is hitting a mark exactly. Let's consider a trip to the rifle range. Accuracy is hitting the bullseye in the exact center. Precision is shooting a group, hopefully with the intention of hitting the exact center every time. But if the shooting technique is poor or the sights off, then the grouping may be off-center (precise but inaccurate), or all over the board (imprecise and inaccurate due to poor manufacturing or poor technique, or both). Thus, in the perfect world one hits the center exactly every time. But in the real world,, we hit the center occasionally, but hopefully the grouping is tight and close to center, and that shows that our technique is precise and the rifle manufacturing process had good tolerance. So in choosing a tool, choose one that is precise enough (i.e. the manufacturer's tolerance) to produce the most accurate results required, with the best technique that you can practice.

Does it really make sense to check the accuracy of a square using the edge of a piece plywood? Do we need anything with an accuracy of greater than 1/128 or even 1/64 for woodworking? I think the marketing dudes are laughing all the way to the bank. I have a Stanly tri square that I bought for $2.50 1970. Using these methods, they test "dead on."

Somehow, carpenters somehow managed to make fine furniture 500 years ago without squares accurate to 25 microns.

Fellow Fireman (retired U.K.) here. Vital to show how easy it is to have an accident with power tools. All it takes is a momentary lack of attention or a distraction and you’ve lost a finger or two. My comment is about using the mitre saw using your left hand on the saw and right on the wood. I’m right handed and try to always cut from the other side. My right hand on the saw, it just feels way more comfortable, I feel cramped if I’m on the other side and there is a danger of moving your right hand too close to the blade being right handed. Keep up the good work brother.

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you have either sold your soul to the devil or you actually dont know what the heck you are saying. After watching your video I actually click on your link to buy the set of Grizzly. they are not just a little out of square, they are extremely out of square. WFT dude, so what if i click on your link, I am returning it!!!!!! this is the first and the last of your video I watch. I am so pissed, I dont know who I am pissed at, me, you or grizzly.

This is my first time viewer and enjoyed the video. I am building a French Cleat System that will be combined w/ our current Elfa Garage Organization System that we got 10 yrs ago, which worked well for storage of small tools and stuff. However, since starting my new adventures in woodworking last year, thus getting power tools, their accessories, built JIGs and having residual wood from prior projects, space had decreased exponentially, plus things have become disorganized. Agree w/ you that having the most used tools visually presented in front than in a drawer, cut the time used to look for them. Thanks for the pep talk of not overthinking and just do it as it will make a huge difference in the shop. I am starting building mine this weekend. Keep up the good work!🙂

I guess you’re not still posting videos.

Not to take away from the very important points made in the video - an acceptable tolerance will change depending on the application, Woodpecker's tools aren't going to magically make you a better woodworker (and sadly I speak from experience on that point) - but it's a little disheartening that you admit around the 3:25 mark that your thumbnail image for this video is misleading/clickbait. C'mon.

I’m grateful to you for sharing your accident. I will keep it in mind, especially when I start getting bored a couple hours into making the same cuts again and again.

I do not have any Grizzly tools in my shop. I guess their 'industrial' grade tools are pretty good. Their 'hobby' tools are very hit and miss. Some are good, some need to be sent back, and that to me is a deal killer. I don't want to have to work on a tool I purchase in order to get it working correctly. Harbor Freight is worse. As for Woodpecker tools, I don't have any yet. However, I will be getting some. In part this is because I won't buy knock offs. Having been part of a family owned business that produced high end products and seeing knock offs on the market means I will want to buy from the people who designed and made the tool, not the copy cats.

I appreciate you not editing the accident out of the video. Great safety reminder for others. Glad you didn't hurt yourself. New subscriber here.

Curious, what are the longest boards you've tried running through it?

Well, I'm Going To watch the comparison video.

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Whats tough is being raised in a cabinet shop then going into the tile installation business. I apply the same accuracy in cabinet building to my tile installations, from the prep work to the finished job.

Get some sort of push blocks/sticks etc or you're gonna lose a finger, fingers, or a hand on that table saw!!! I read about a firefighter that had a kickback and the wood dragged his hand across the blade and SHREDDED his hand. No work of several years, and several hundred dollars worth of surgery, and physical/occupational therapy still has limited use of his right hand.

Great video and lots of good information to take in. I’ve been a drummer for almost 50 years. I have owned many pro level drum sets and a collection of over 20 snare drums. 3 of the 4 sets I currently own I have BUILT MYSELF! I bought raw drum shells and did all the processes to make a functional drum. I did so, at the time, with all box store tool. Combination squares are very important to the process, and at the time I had only an Irwin square and a few rulers. I dare anyone to find any imperfections on my drums. A couple of years ago I took up woodworking and have built numerous furniture pieces, that’s when my problems began. I still do not own any measuring tools over $60, and I build some decent stuff. It’s all about skill. I still can’t justify $180 for a square, not to say that I won’t treat myself someday. Thanks!

Is cost for Accuracy or Consistency? If the Grizzley squares are DIN 875-1 as they claim then there shouldn't be, as you mentioned, "mixed reviews". Maybe price isn't a reflection of accuracy but the labor for additional quality assurance to ensure consistency? I noticed the same issue of mixed reviews with IGaging as well. Because you received one that is square doesn't mean I will. Of course, it's also possible that it's not a mfg issue but fakes being sold on Amazon.

Accurate to .001 MAKES NONE SENSE AT ALL!!,, AND you could have got the exact set under a name other than Grizzly for 1/3rd that price.. Grizzly puts their name on them as does many other companies.. If you want to drop actual knowledge,, try this: 1 degree is approx .017 PER INCH that's 17 thousandths PER INCH,, So in a 10 inch span, 1 degree is almost 3/16" out (actual number .170) ,, You can NOT tolerance an angle with measurements with out including all factors... Perhaps an actual understanding would be of use here....

Funny video with lots of provoking thoughts about accuracy vs. cost. Thanks for sharing.

Many occasions, fear is a mind-alerter, not a mind-killer. Everything in proportion. Stay (proportionally) afraid of powertools! Thanks for keeping the footage and scaring us straight, so we hopefully don't have to experience it. Btw, I had a similar moment with cutting a too-short piece of wood on a miter saw. It had too little registering surface on the bed, reducing the moment-arm advantage you usually get. Nearly sucked in my left hand, which was holding the keep-part.

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This is the first of your videos I’ve seen. Well done. Thank you.

Nice vid. The tables are aluminum - no rust, but the paste wax does make wood slide easier.

Love your video, man. I've been woodworking for more than 30 years and I still only consider myself "pretty good." You are absolutely spot-on right when you say the only thing that matters is the ability to cut or drill accurately. I own a number of squares of various types, but honestly the ones I use 99 percent of the time are a six inch machinist square, a six inch Starrett combination square and a tape measure. As for Woodpeckers, I don't believe anything they claim and I don't buy from them any more.

I watched a guy walk up to me on the back stage of a theater set with all four of his right hand fingers dangling off the back of his hand by skin only. It was a real life horror movie and I went into shock just seeing it. I can't begin to say how grateful I am for your integrity on this platform. You really earned a huge deposit at the trust-bank of Michael Amos. You are the real deal, sir.

Subscribed; stopped by for your French Cleat take but staying because First Responders have my heart, several on both sides of my family. You guys and gals have been there for me too on 3 occasions (just aging medical, not shop related at least yet). I appreciate your occupation so I'll hang around for your side hustle, or encore, or whatever the beaver is angry about, thanks again!

i like your value based approach to tool reviews. I don't use my tools to make a living. I have a Makita track saw. It is a fine tool and makes extremely nice cuts. But, it does lack all of the polish and system integration of the Festool saw. As I get older the Festool approach is more and more appealing.

Bro just so you know the handle screws are spring loaded. They did make a great design you didn’t need to unscrew anything. Just lift up on the plastic handle and reposition so they don’t come in contact with one another

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Good job on the safety emphasis.

Sawl dust?

What type blade did you use to get that clean of a cut? Did you notice any wobble in the sled on the rail?