I appreciate all your hard work and diligence when it comes to all these controllers. You could have left it at the first review, or the follow up. But you continue to deliver, and update through the life of the controller. Where was I? Oh yeah, thank you!
I love mine it’s not the sticks it’s the friction rings that rub off on the sticks. The rings are the only issue I have had and it’s blown out of proportion
@@epicmike3915. I think Turtle beach used cheap thumbsticks because the Gamesir uses quality hall efffect sticks. They feel exactly like the xbox series controllers
Thanks for this review. Brutally honest. We need that. I just returned my controller today for a replacement. Major connectivity issues. I use this controller and my Audeze Maxwell and I do think the dongles compete against each other. Thanks again for your great videos. Keep it up.
I spent 3 hours trying to get this controller to connect. I prefer wired connection and couldn’t get it to connect wired. Once it finally connect it was alright. The mechanical buttons are satisfying as well as the hall sticks, but I ended up going back to the Victrix Gambit.
Wish I could’ve got used to the built in deadzones of the gambit (around 8%), but they just feel too stiff as someone who always runs extremely low deadzone in game
I’m shocked you didn’t mention the anti-friction rings actually causing friction, because they are not smooth or have quality control issues where they wear a groove into the sticks. I have this same issue on my Gamesir SE
I only have to complaints about this when u use the grips and you try to press the button with the two squares on it you move your stick to and sometimes takes a while for Xbox to turn on after u turn on controller apart from that still 10/10
I had numerous issues with the Scuff Envision so I returned it and got this controller. I don’t regret it at all and it has been near perfect on PC. Only thing I don’t like is the select button and having to reach over the left thumb stick to hit it.
I've had this controller for a while now, playing every day for several hours and had no issues, it's plugged into my Xbox via a rear usb, I've had no disconnections or any if the issues ppl have had. I have slightly greased the sticks/friction rings to avoid that issue and so far it's been perfect. Edit/update,, returned due to random extreme stick drift spinning my camera aroudn randomly, calibration did not fix this..returned the controller. Unsure if this was software or hardware related
Great follow up! I am one who just started having left bumper issues where it sometimes it's non responsive or clicks multiple times as if it's lagging. Very frustrating being mechanical. I'm in the process of contacting turtle beach via their email form for the warranty repair. Aside from that no other issues thus far.
Owned mine for a month before returning. The left stick grind became noticeable after a day or two of usage and was just too annoying. The software being so buggy (random wired disconnects) was also just a pain. Might give it another try if they fix these issues
Hey i bought the controller because of your review like i said in your first video but iv only had the dongle not connect once but what im trying to say is i still love the controller its still my favorite game pad but i am glad you brought to light what to be aware of.
hi friend as always beautiful video details, I bought this controller to use it on the PC, aesthetically beautiful, light, and the best for analogue ones, you can manage it much better in anti-recoil situations, I found a some problems the PC software is buggy, then I connect the wired Astro headphones via 3.5mm Jack, from the controller display when you go to audio mix, and you want to raise the game audio more and lower the voice chat does not respond at the command, the only thing that can be managed is the audio in general, then as soon as you place the controller in the charging base with the headphones always connected, it gets wet and the microphone of the headphones no longer makes it work, I have to Turn your PC off and on again. Have you encountered the same problems as far as you know? Thanks in advance @@GamerHeavenOfficial
😅I also have dual sense edge, scuf envision pro and each of them has a pro and a con, I personally think the scuf envision pro is more valid for PC, what do you think? ps: I'm Italian if you can write to me in Italian I would be grateful, otherwise I'll have to go and translate 😂@@GamerHeavenOfficial
You couldn't of said it better Cap, everything in a nut shell, hopefully some one listens, and if they do we would have the #1 controller on the market in a perfect world.
when this controller first came out i went to Amazon to order it but the Amazon reviews were speaking directly to all of these QC issues so i held off. glad i did.
Personally just two days after getting it (Released in Australia two days ago), my only issue I had so far was thumbstick and trigger registration being busted. But after a few board resets and recalibrations, it works perfectly fine. Nothing else so far, but if that's literally all I get, then I'm in a rare camp in which mine is not even majorly faulty. Kudos to TB from me for making resetting the board easy to do.
Bought it, used it for a day. I use a wired headset and for some reason, it made my mic terribly quiet. The handles were also to thin for my preferences. Went back to my elite series 2 and will continue to use those until a elite series 3 comes out.
4:39 No, it's not the heat or anything like that. It's also not because the Xbox can't handle multiple dongles. It is simply because the radio connection is lost. Your headset also uses the 2.4 GHz band, as does Xbox Wireless, Bluetooth and old WiFi. If you then place the dongle at the back, the signal has to be reflected off the wall or radiate "through" the console (although it is more likely to go past it) instead of from the front directly to the controller. More wireless dongles = more problems. The Trutle Beach Controller's wireless protocol is simply poorly protected against interference.
I know I just left a lot of comments but I want to say that I appreciate your honesty and it looks like you got another hater down low so dance on him because the more haters you got it means you’re doing it right
So basically we just need to continue using our elites and just get a core when it breaks because every other controller is shit 🤦🏾♂️ Microsoft just fixed your dam quality control issues
@@SwagSo7fly7 no we do not if you are on pc there options xbox game sr se g7 1000hz polling rate. It makeing pro controller look bad . Only problem is it’s missing hair triggers that’s it.
I just picked up the Stealth and the + button location is a killer. I accidentally brushed the + button and it left me standing still to get killed in game. Also, had the controller un-pair from the USB dongle once. So far, those are my only gripes with the controller. Build is good, nice and solid. Thanks for the review prior to me purchasing.
I've had the controller for about 2 months now and haven't had any issues arise, in my personal opinion it's a great controller. The only thing I would change is the positioning of the pause buttons
Thanks for saving me the scratch on buying this, I’m 4 elites in now and all same failure point, I’m done getting them replaced. I think I’ll use my King Kong and get the goku
Turtle Beach and quakity control. The sky is blue. Had a Recon and had muktiple issues with it. One straight out of the box that made all the onboard audio controls absolutely pointless and then two that started after about 3 weeks. It'll take a hell of a lot for me to buy another of their products. Hall effect sticks arent good if there are multiple other big issues.
What have you come across that would be a great controller for the PC and on the subject any headsets you’ve favored as well… Got high end Turtle Beach for both and they have both been total ass
@@Silentkittey Razer Kaira X is the headset I have. It was cheap and offered great sound and a great mic. GameSir seems to be the way to go for controllers, although I have a Dualsense Edge atm. My 8BitDo Ultimate is still working currently as well.
I’ve been through 2 scuff instinct pros ,3 elites series 2 controllers which I found that the Xbox series elite 2 controllers have about a six month to a year shelflife basically stick drift with them, four months and the scuffs with the removable plate. The buttons start to stick fast. I also owned a fusion pro to power a spectrum big big won I’ve tried so many different controllers I’m done paying two to $300 for these premium controllers that don’t even offer anti-drift or guaranteeing 1000 Hz pulling rate as of right now on PC I’m rocking the game sr se Inside of the software you got your thousand hertz update without having a overclock on X input. Also it has Hall effect analog sticks hands-down right now in my opinion that is the best controller on the market and it only cost $44.
I’m a pretty casual gamer now a days with my job and I still manage to burn through Controllers regularly due to stick drift so I’m only looking into “Pro” controllers to try and escape the continuous annoying circle that I’m in. I was and still am surprised how fixing the stick drift issue isn’t considered one of the staples of these high price controllers and how everyone is ok paying more money for a few fancy buttons and different color schemes. Seems to me like fixing the stick drift issue so buying a new controller every few months (regardless of price) should be higher on everyone’s list, would at least make the $200 price tag more worth the investment. Found this channel looking into the Turtle Beach cause of the better joysticks. Watched the controller show down and was pretty much sold on it… then I found this video and my fears were immediately confirmed. I have a pair of their stealth 700 headsets and had to warranty them 3 times in as many months for connectivity issues with the dongle and the app. Now on my 4th pair and a little over a year in everything seems to be working fine (fingers crossed) but the head piece adjustment is getting a little loose. Was wondering how the connectivity of this controller would be and how it would work with another dongle hanging out of the Xbox and I guess the answer is “not great” I’ll either end up with controller issue or it’ll bring back issues with my headset that’s now out of warranty. After looking into this maybe it’s time we consider Turtle Beach is not the great company it once was. At least maybe not in my eyes. Seems like all their products lately are having the same type of issues with breaking down fast or not connecting. I know this is a longer post and I could go on on how disappointed I am in the lack of effort companies seem to be putting into fixing issues that kill controllers in their “pro” models in what’s seems more like a money grab by flashing bells and whistles in front of us than anything else but maybe that’s a post for somewhere else
Had mine for a week now and so far no problems and I love it. Bought it for the klick function on the triggers. Helps this old as with saving some thousands of a second playing COD. I choose between this, the Elite and the Scuf. And the Scudmf was just to much dollars.
i ordered like 5 elite series 2, three had unresponsive A and select button and two had problems with the sticks they were super hard to click. bought the stealth ultra and im blown away i love it
You are the most comprehensive controller reviewer (and genuinely hilarious) but I noticed recently you are pulling back on many “great controller” reviews and releasing follow-ups showing they aren’t great. Would it be more beneficial to wait longer before posting the initial review?
I just bought this yesterday. Had been eyeing it, and your reviews convinced me. And my ognseries controller just started to drift bad enough to affect gameplay. I'll get it Tuesday, hopefully mine works fine!
I love my stealth ultra hands down best controller I have and have ever used. The friction rings are garbage only issue and rub off onto the sticks. Controller needs better friction rings
I picked up this controller per your original review, and thankfully I haven't had any issues with it. I think I speak on behalf of my fellow stallions/stallionettes that we really appreciate these follow-up reviews to keep us informed about controllers we might be in the market for.
Turtle Beach released firmware updates for the controller and transceiver on the Jan 24th to address the disconnectivity issues. Hopefully it's better now.
It feels like he’s nitpicking here, it’s a solid controller and leagues better than the Microsoft’s own elite. And didn’t he just complain about it having its own dongle that has a FASTER input, that is to say much less input lag, than the Xbox wireless even has? Odd. Seems like he’s determined to tear this controller down. It’s a monster option IMO compared to what’s available.
I'm really digging these post review thoughts. Like a lot of products in life, you could love something when you first get it, but as you use it more you can learn to either dislike it or downright hate it; especially with game controllers that are known for having bad long-term reliability a lot of the time unfortunately. As far as the Turtle Beach Stealth Ultra, not to sound snobby, but I would never buy a custom or pro controller at this point that doesn't have gyro. It really is a game-changer for FPS.
Honestly I’d use either a razer wolverine v2 or the elite series 2 just like gamer heaven I’ve had nothing but phenomenal experiences with them and their made specifically for pc and xbox just like razer you can’t go wrong with either tbh
The faulty thing was the thumb stick covers, everything else works fine besides the app development, even that catches fire though. Put a little price of napkin or paper towel under the thumb cover when putting it on the thumb stick, you're golden. They made it 1:1 so it's gonna slip around. Also while the app may be lacking a bit, it's the first of its kind, there's gonna be flaws, I hope people buy it to make more revisions possible for a better one.
I just returned mine Not having other thumbsticks/caps included for this price is absurd. It mattered to me because the sticks are on the smaller side - my little nephew said they felt like sticks on his switch, not a premium $200+ xbox controller The select (or whatever it's called these days) button placement feels like nobody actually tested this controller for very long. I don't mind when controllers move the start/select buttons from the center, but the select button is awkward to hit with this controller's placement. It's too close to the stick. So if/when you add control stick caps/extensions/grips, this problem will only get worse. This is really annoying when most games keybind an in-game map to this button. The bumpers are a textbook example of how "mechanical" doesn't always mean better. Yes, these bumpers are mechanical - but they have NO tactile feedback. Because most people use a hinge design for these bumpers, I think the torque lever that it creates on the button is so amplified that there's barely feedback force left at your finger tips. That's just my theory that could be wildly wrong. Point being, these bumpers definitely click, but there's barely any tactility. They also crafted in some dumb turtle beach logos on the side that break up the very good texturing they built on the side grips - and it creates this really annoying sticky and sweaty spot on your hands. Yet again it feels like nobody tested this for over an hour. The deal breaker for me, which I think is a shame that people are just glossing over is ergonomics. The triggers are shaped more like shoulders. There is no horizontally flat face on these triggers - they are completely contoured. They're shaped in a way that you "squeeze" these triggers in rather than "pull". I think this is a shame, because it forces your grip around squeezing this controller and it becomes uncomfortable in other grip styles. I like my triggers to feel and pull like....triggers.....with my finger on a flatter face of the trigger and pulling it back. I think a good portion of xbox controller users hold their controllers this way too - and this controller doesn't cater to that. It's a shame, because at least it has trigger vibration (I know not everyone cares, but I do). After trying all the high end controllers, I'm back to my Vader 3 Pro then....which isn't perfect either, but it's hard to compromise on design quirks/issues when the other controllers cost ~$200.
That’s to bad you returned it I absolutely love mine. Best controller I have ever played with or own and I have a lot. This controller is phenomenal and I love the way it feels. Think you get a lot of controller for the money. Only complaint I have about the controller is the friction rings
Personally I only use it on PC and have been using it steady for 10 days and agree about battery life and the control panel you down load sucks but other wise Im loving it and have had no issues with it
I returned mine for QC issues. Bad D-Pad, bad bumpers and the right stick would drift wildly after 20 mins or so. Replaced the original and it still did that on Pc. I need a wireless hall effect controller with trigger locks and I don’t know which to get… Help!?
Ok so the problem with the dongle is any dongle which is 2.4ghz they’ll confuse each other like if you’re using the headset and the controller which could disconnect the headset and controller might just keep the headset working might keep the controller working they’re too close together
Nooooo….!! Damn I’m was so hype to finally go get one this weekend. Then I saw the Elite Series 2 was on sale but after my first one got drifty and then the Core drifted after 2 months I just wanted a different option. I hope they can clean this up. Although there is a lot of pointless options. I’m torn
there seems to be problems with every controller these days.. for sub $50 controllers that might get a pass because lets be honest it has to come from somewhere. but these are like $200. there should be well tested, no QC problems at all.
I have 2 of these controllers and I do love them the hall effect sticks are amazing they feel very smooth when playing FPS games. I haven't had any disconnect issues with either of them, but on both controllers the right triggers have broke off after only playing with them for 30 days. Turtle beach customer service has been great and I have received replacements for them since they offer a 1 year 5 million clicks on all the buttons. But I feel the like these trigger locks are going to be a issue. All I play is FPS games and never unlock the trigger locks, but for some reason these trigger locks seem to fail and break causing you to loose the right trigger over time. If you have one of these controllers the design on the triggers has this sharp curve towards the end of the trigger and when pressing these triggers down with the trigger locks locked they aren't flush and have a tendency to go more to the right for the right trigger and left to the left trigger because of the sharp design curve of the triggers at the bottom... All in all amazing controller response time is unbeatable feels great in your hands.
i do agree with you on blue tooth not working and the battery life is not good how ever i still think the controller works very well smooth on fighting games good for shooters and the zero stick drift is nice as well however i still think they could of done better
One of my biggest gripes with the controller is the placement of the back button, it's alright without the included caps on, but with, its just so awkward to press. Especially for a game like trials where you press it constantly to restart. 2nd and biggest gripe is the dpad. Having played allot with the official Xbox Series controller and 8bitdo's ultimate and pro 2 controller I will say the dpad is alright to use, but doesn't feel accurate enough for me to want to use. As someone who is a big fan of the tony hawk games I could not consistently land revert to manuals with this controller whereas the other ones I mentioned those I can do it every time. So while this is the controller I pick up if I'm going to play a game that uses primarily the sticks, like a racing game or third person shooter, I will always opt for an 8bitdo controller when playing a game using the dpad.
Love the controller despite sending one broken back, don’t love the battery, don’t love the bug on the different stick settings, precision and fast actually are reversed on the controller screen, when you check the app they are different to the screen
Brand new this controller was on another level. However, for me it was a flash fire and I’ve gotten cold. I won’t be using the Stealth Ultra to game. I play on Xbox w/ a desk so I used this wired because of disconnects and battery. A let down, but not a deal breaker. The left stick grind, software, view/start button placement retired it for me. I did wrap the stick stem with foil tape once the plastics of the anti-friction rings and stick started degrading, but found it a short term solution. It was only a couple days before smooth was back to grinding…. I don’t feel like I’m heavy handed on the sticks either. I also had some unexplained software issues. One where the D Pad would be sending input. Once where it was stuck on down, and another stuck on right. Playing around disconnecting/reconnecting with Xbox did stop this, however, it has recurred and seams more frequent. The D-Pad did not react the same when using the plus button to enter the display menu. I’ve also had issues where I’ve tried to calibrate the sticks and triggers and no input or recalibration would happen. In the Xbox app or through the controller’s menu. The dead zones also had to be increased fairly quickly. I started pretty zero’d out. (Zero’d in controller menu & .02 in game (Destiny 2’s radial dead zone setting)). Last night after a d-pad episode I recalibrated and was running .06 and could see drift @ .05. This is the same setting I use on my 8 month old elite 2 & instinct pro. This might not be apples to apples because I’m not sure what the baseline level is being adjusted in game, but a definite downgrade. This whole purchase only gave me glimpses of what’s possible. I’m a controller fanatic like I suppose most people here are. And I’m back on my ole elite 2 after hot affairs with stealth & instinct. So disappointed that we’re still stuck on not which model/brand is the best, but which toy isn’t broken as much at the time.
I know it's going to be hard because he's probably the reason he bought it in the first place but try to experience it on your own before you get let down.
This is the first time hearing people tap the button their xbox controller lol i usually always held it down i didn't know you could just give it a quick tap 😂
Hey bud just wanted to say thanks for all the controller reviews. Much appreciated. And also; I know this doesn't have anything to do with this video but wanted your opinion on what you think is the best and fastest controller i could get: the Victrix Gambit, Thrustmaster Eswap Pro, Razer V2 Chroma, or the Gamesir G7 SE. Do you know which is fastest and your opinion on best overall controller. Thanks
Can't say I've accidentally hit the screen control button but I can see how it could happen, my biggest actual issue is the Select button - especially with caps on the sticks I find muscle memory tapping it I always end up hitting the stick, immersion breaking having to consciously tap it directly for map menu etc After that, I question longevity of the sticks on the anti friction rings which after a few hours use feel no better than a worn standard controller (esp when comparing to the slick elite feel) Contrary to your update issues on console app, I actually found the PC app very finicky but Xbox seems to work quite well. All in all, loving the hall effect and mechanical buttons but I dare say the market is still in need of that holy grail of controllers this one is a solid shot, the best attempt yet infact but isn't quite it. Maybe the elite series 3 will be the one, if it doesn't use hall effects and mechanical switches however I'll certainly be awaiting the Stealth Ultra 2.
Stealth Ultra looks great and everything, but freaking $280?! I got Dualsense, 8bitdo Pro 2 and Ultimate, Vader 3 Pro, bunch of accessories - everything for less than $200 and I'm more than happy with it.
So I bought one and I like it, but there's a few issues that stop me from LOVING it. So I'm on deployment right now, so right now I'm only using it on PC, but some of the experiences you had mirror mine but I have stuff worth sharing. 1. When using Bluetooth to your phone, you want to make sure to pair BOTH the controller AND the app connection in your Bluetooth settings, otherwise it will drop because the controller is trying to pair to something else. 2. I was experiencing Disconnect issues when hardwired like you were even on PC, I reset the controller and updated the firmware and I since haven't had that problem (again however, I'm on PC, not xbox) 3. Yeah I don't like the PC App ether, it's better using the phone app or just doing the settings straight on the controller screen. 4. My biggest gripe with this, it's the customization is missing what is the MOST important setting for me which is the ability to swap stick inputs. I play my Fps games in southpaw (using right stick for movement and left stick for aim/look) a many newer games are increasing leaving out this option. I had replaced my Elite V1 control that finally broke with this, expecting to do the same thing I did, which was create a profile with the sticks swapped and be able to switch on the fly. I did find a work around though. The first party xbox app works on this, just limited and doesn't support the back buttons. So I made a profile and loaded that into the control.... the only downside is I have to go INTO the app to switch back, unlike the elite controller where I could just switch profiles on the fly...once (or IF) they add this as a feature... the controller for me is perfect
200 dollar controller and the first thing i noticed was how light it was. Didn't feel like a controller worth 200 bucks outside of the screen. I slapped my G7 back in and immediately felt how responsive it is in comparison to the stealth.
I got the controller day one and out of the box it didn't power on whatsoever. held the button and did a hard reset nothing but i took it back to best buy and exchanged for a new one and it works perfectly. This controller and the scuf instinct pro imo are the best out there I've had 5 elites since they came out and every single one has had horrible problems. I did have a problem with the last update with the turtle beach and it made my sticks and triggers not respond but after a hard reset everything was back to normal. I also run mine wired because the wireless is very inconsistent.
Fortunately, after 2 weeks of use (mainly Battlefield and UFC) I did't experience any inconvenience. The only thing that doesn't work is the Xbox Wireless Bluetooth connection. In my opinion it is a very good controller.
I was thinking about getting it but once I really looked & compared it & it was a big NO for that price. Analyzing this ur better off getting the elite 2 & just adding the turtle beach audio adapter. It turns regular headlphones into gaming headphones. The Turtle Beach adapter takes the audio technica mx50s to the next level. U can also add the adapter to any xbox controller but its even better when u have it on the elite 2...The elite 2 has more features...With this ur basically paying for the screen which I'm down if it was maybe $125, but for $200 u get more bang 4 ur buck with the elite 2 & the turtle beach audio adapter
I tried my best to like this controller but it’s flawed i couldnt disable the rgb lights and that caused the battery to last for a few hours and i ultimately returned it for that reason
I've seen a few comments on Amazon UK mentioning stick drift issues as well as sticks just not responding, also loads of connectivity issues, as well as just general qc problems. I was about to purchase one for myself until I saw a comment on your previous video's for this controller stating it had some serious issues so I held back, checked Amazon & now seeing this 3rd video I've decided that for the money I'll just stick with the Elite Series 2 as tbh pound for pound although it's pretty dated now I still feel the Elite Series 2 is still the best pro controller available on Xbox & I'm hoping the Series 3 (if it ever releases) will be even better...
Just bought this, right trigger wasn’t registering, tried to calibrate on the controller but still wasn’t registering, tried the app to calibrate and still wasn’t registering, tried factory reset and still nothing… wish an elite 3 would just be released!
It's a shame to hear that the Bluetooth is so poor as i was intending on using it with my Steam Deck and my Tablet for gaming and Bluetooth would be the only way to connect to those.
I gritted my teeth and bought....the Xbox Elite 2. I NEARLY bought this one, but products that extremely new might have quality control and/or connectivity issues. I'd say say the the Elite 2 COULD be the same, but i guess its better than this.... And this Turtle Beach one clicks a little too loud for my liking...
@@michaelpetrocelli8871 I know. But sadly only the Elite and this Turtle controller seem to have what I want. (back paddles, Bluetooth/wireless connectivity, AND rechargeable all in one) Hopefully Turtle Beach gets a revision soon, or another third party controller comes along soon...
Ya this guy is great when it comes to going over the controllers and features but truth is when u have over 20 elite controllers and a wall of custom controllers its hard to be able to test durability in the short time he does these reviews. Also when it comes to controller reviews there is no rush to be first like game reviews or movie reviews. Nothing beats the elite series 2 ( when its working ) lol
It doesn't have gyro might be a requirement for being an official licensed controller since I never see that feature on any 3rd party licensed controller that I know. Having said that, I didn't check every controller that I know, just some controller from Gamesir and 8bitdo. What is also kinda annoying which might be tied with the license thing is the fact that I have Gamesir T4K that has 3.5mm audio jack but it doesn't work in X-input mode! I wouldn't be surprised if it doesn't work because of the licensing thing. FYI, the 3.5mm jack does work when connected to the PC with other than X-input mode.
This is annoying. I am trying to find the "perfect" hall effect controller for PC, but it looks like it just doesn't exist. All these faults makes me not want to get it. I tried the Gulikit, but didn't like it.
I really enjoy this conteoller.... And just yesterday it simply refused to turn on. Filed a warranty claim. Probably be weeks till they fix or send another.
I literally just returned it I honestly don't like the thumbsticks and the back buttons are to close imo and last it's very very light to me and I kinda don't like that ...idk I mainly think it's a turtle beach issue I just don't like their controller
I don't play FPS games, I only play mainly 3rd person games, such as RDR2, GoW, the Jedi series or the classic non-3rd person must have Cyberpunk. And yet, hesitating, I sent him away. Finally, sticks with zero drift and zero dead zone. all buttons, bumpers and dpad are mechanical, clickable like a mouse. The quality of workmanship is top, everything fits perfectly, nothing creaks. The pad is very comfortable and handy when playing for a long time, and it charges very quickly. However, there are disadvantages: - compared to elite 2, the pad seems toy-like - nothing is made of metal, everything is plastic and the controller itself is light (240g vs 350), there is no premium feeling of the product in the hands - no BT connection for Xbox and PC, only via dongle (despite the description that it works via BT) - photo in review no. 3 - the battery does not work for 30 hours, I have the LEDs set to static with minimum brightness and the screen off time is 3 minutes, and sleep time is 5 minutes - with these settings the controller works for a maximum of 10-12 hours. To sum up, despite its flaws, it is the most responsive and precise pad I have ever used. So much so that skill challenges in some games that I found difficult to complete went smoothly using this pad. Precision, responsiveness of the mouse, comfort of the mouse. That's why, having a lot of reservations, I still give it 4* because its innovation and performance are unprecedented. Additionally, headphones connected to the cable via a jack sound very well, and there are many options for personalizing the settings. Finally, the screen built into the pad - GREAT, changing settings or profiles directly from the pad, without an external application, is great. An innovative product that requires corrections. Now update: After updating the software, the pad had a problem connecting to the dongle, I kept having to pair it again, but then the connection was stable. Lots of small flaws started to annoy me, that it didn't work in a somewhat transparent way like the original Xbox or PS pads. I used the pad with a PC, I don't have an Xbox, only a PC and a PS5, so I don't know how it works with the console, The turning point of the decision to return it was its design defect (I thought it was a defect in my unit and I would replace it with another one, but no) - the pad rubs the stick pin against the ring around the pad when the sticks are deflected - as if someone was filing a tree trunk around. A lot of people complain about it, we can see the wear and grind of the sticks. Additionally, the pad is indulgent and toy-like in the hands, it does not give the impression of a premium product, but rather a toy with more LEDs. I'm waiting for elite 3, hopefully with hall effect sticks and triggers as well as buttons and bumpers with microswitches
I wish the elite controllers didn’t disintegrate with use. Drift, broken buttons, buttons that don’t register inputs, and rubber peeling away (fixed on elite 2.) It’s the only reason I’m looking at this one.
I need to get a controller today what would you recommend now then because I was just about to buy this controller after your first review but now I'm not sure
Even plugged directly into my pc, there seems to be issues where I’ll get more input lag if I have a headset also plugged into the controller. The dongle also has terrible connectivity. Even plugged into a usb port on top of my pc (sits on the floor right under my desk) it seems to hold a connection but will sometimes not make correct movements based on button clicks or thumb stick movements. They also haven’t updated the firmware since I believe January, so 5ish months ago. I think all of the fixes can be made just by firmware updates and software fixes. Bluetooth connectivity is also an issue for me.
Had mine pretty much since launch. I have some drift on the sticks, although nowhere near as bad as my Elites, it’s there. The D pad is failing, the button presses sometimes don’t register and it loses connection occasionally. It seems Turtle beach have already disowned it as it hasn’t had an update in 4 months. I still prefer it to an elite though, however it’s a £$99 controller at best.
Mine wouldn't connect to my Series X wired or with the dongle. I saw another guy on TH-cam saying he hooked his up with a USB extension cable to make his work so I tried that and magically it works. No explanation why that worked but now so far so good
Tried it out but it kept disconnecting so pretty much useless at that point, ended up returning it. Also it seems like it could be nice but jeez does it feel cheap.
Sup controller captain, have you heard of easysmx new controller the X10? I think it´s a great controller for it's price, but I really want to hear your input on it, keep up the good work!💪
@GamerHeavenOfficial from the videos I've seen people completely ignore the rear buttons, they never talk about how they feel and if they're mechanical of not
This thing tends to disconnect from my Xbox like once a week and my wired headset works like shit only plugged into this controller... Makes me sad since I spent 200 hundy on it .
To be fair, I owned mine for 28 days before it fully died on me. Luckily I was able to get a full refund on it and have since placed an order for the Flydigi Apex 4 instead.
There's always first impressions and long-term playability. Even QC issues can make that initial impression different between multiple consumers. Kevin did his due diligence to follow up. Completely transparent the whole time.
@@Tommyvang187 I tried the controller day one and it just did not feel good. I could not change deadzones and the thumbsticks are actually trash. I have had basically every pro controller there is and this one was one of my least favorites
I got mine at launch everything was fine then all of a sudden my R3 button started clicking off the slightest motion which is a problem since I play COD 95% of the time so I'm constantly trying to melee in the middle of gun fights. I've never dropped it. so I thought it might have been user error, went back to my elite 2 and no meleeing in the middle of fights but now stick drift is back and I prefer the mouse click feel of the SU controller
Had this for a week now. Seen every problem mentioned. The biggest issue was that i was playing warzone and couldnt hit my shots. Too far left too far right. Figured out why. I had my headset 3.5 jack attached via headset. As soon as i removed it the controller become accurate again. Can only put this down to latency or some bug. I normally play on 6/6 sense but even put down to 3/3 and was still a noob.
Side niche I don’t see an option to change the face buttons to anything, looks like you can only swap the rear buttons .. I usually change the face buttons to the d pad buttons so I can quickly take my thumb off the right and not have to stop moving by taking off my left
I returned my TB Ultra after a few days of using it. My right stick would get stuck in game to the left. I would have to move the stick to get game movement to center again. Plus I would have ghost actions without pressing any buttons. Horrible QC issues for sure 🤦🏽
I appreciate all your hard work and diligence when it comes to all these controllers. You could have left it at the first review, or the follow up. But you continue to deliver, and update through the life of the controller. Where was I? Oh yeah, thank you!
Yup, the not turning on after holding the X button AND plugging it in is what made me return it.
I also hated the “click through” feel of the DPad.
Not returned yet, but same here. Just broke down after my TV powered off the console. Gotta admit this thing felt hilariously cheap for 200 bucks.
I’m always hearing complaints about turtle beach products having QC issues. This controller seemed really good but I wasn’t willing to risk it.
Good don't risk it. The thumbsticks are complete ass and you can't change then.
I love mine it’s not the sticks it’s the friction rings that rub off on the sticks. The rings are the only issue I have had and it’s blown out of proportion
@@epicmike3915. I think Turtle beach used cheap thumbsticks because the Gamesir uses quality hall efffect sticks. They feel exactly like the xbox series controllers
@@garrettstrutz7421sounds like you’re justifying you’re purchase by commenting on every single post lol 😂
@@j.b.7133i mean this guy just milks this controller for views and blows all these problems way out of proportion
Thanks for this review. Brutally honest. We need that. I just returned my controller today for a replacement. Major connectivity issues. I use this controller and my Audeze Maxwell and I do think the dongles compete against each other. Thanks again for your great videos. Keep it up.
I spent 3 hours trying to get this controller to connect. I prefer wired connection and couldn’t get it to connect wired. Once it finally connect it was alright. The mechanical buttons are satisfying as well as the hall sticks, but I ended up going back to the Victrix Gambit.
Wish I could’ve got used to the built in deadzones of the gambit (around 8%), but they just feel too stiff as someone who always runs extremely low deadzone in game
I’m shocked you didn’t mention the anti-friction rings actually causing friction, because they are not smooth or have quality control issues where they wear a groove into the sticks. I have this same issue on my Gamesir SE
I only have to complaints about this when u use the grips and you try to press the button with the two squares on it you move your stick to and sometimes takes a while for Xbox to turn on after u turn on controller apart from that still 10/10
I had numerous issues with the Scuff Envision so I returned it and got this controller. I don’t regret it at all and it has been near perfect on PC. Only thing I don’t like is the select button and having to reach over the left thumb stick to hit it.
I've had this controller for a while now, playing every day for several hours and had no issues, it's plugged into my Xbox via a rear usb, I've had no disconnections or any if the issues ppl have had. I have slightly greased the sticks/friction rings to avoid that issue and so far it's been perfect.
Edit/update,, returned due to random extreme stick drift spinning my camera aroudn randomly, calibration did not fix this..returned the controller. Unsure if this was software or hardware related
Great follow up! I am one who just started having left bumper issues where it sometimes it's non responsive or clicks multiple times as if it's lagging. Very frustrating being mechanical. I'm in the process of contacting turtle beach via their email form for the warranty repair. Aside from that no other issues thus far.
This is the kind of video I've been looking for. Thanks! No bias. Just pure experience.
Owned mine for a month before returning. The left stick grind became noticeable after a day or two of usage and was just too annoying. The software being so buggy (random wired disconnects) was also just a pain. Might give it another try if they fix these issues
I had the same issue and had to also return it.
Thats exactly what happened with the Turtle Beach Recon.....I would not buy this crap
Hey i bought the controller because of your review like i said in your first video but iv only had the dongle not connect once but what im trying to say is i still love the controller its still my favorite game pad but i am glad you brought to light what to be aware of.
Glad to see you still here watching Vergil, have a good day buddy
hi friend as always beautiful video details, I bought this controller to use it on the PC, aesthetically beautiful, light, and the best for analogue ones, you can manage it much better in anti-recoil situations, I found a some problems the PC software is buggy, then I connect the wired Astro headphones via 3.5mm Jack, from the controller display when you go to audio mix, and you want to raise the game audio more and lower the voice chat does not respond at the command, the only thing that can be managed is the audio in general, then as soon as you place the controller in the charging base with the headphones always connected, it gets wet and the microphone of the headphones no longer makes it work, I have to Turn your PC off and on again. Have you encountered the same problems as far as you know? Thanks in advance @@GamerHeavenOfficial
😅I also have dual sense edge, scuf envision pro and each of them has a pro and a con, I personally think the scuf envision pro is more valid for PC, what do you think? ps: I'm Italian if you can write to me in Italian I would be grateful, otherwise I'll have to go and translate 😂@@GamerHeavenOfficial
I got mine at launch, play on pc.
Agree battery life is around the 15 hour mark.
I haven’t suffered any disconnect issues.
It’s been flawless for me
I absolutely love mine only issue is the friction rings. The sticks and rings don’t like each other very much
You couldn't of said it better Cap, everything in a nut shell, hopefully some one listens, and if they do we would have the #1 controller on the market in a perfect world.
I appreciate that.
when this controller first came out i went to Amazon to order it but the Amazon reviews were speaking directly to all of these QC issues so i held off. glad i did.
The left joystick breaking down from the friction ring is the biggest I had.
Same shit for me, and only with 5 hours of use...
Personally just two days after getting it (Released in Australia two days ago), my only issue I had so far was thumbstick and trigger registration being busted. But after a few board resets and recalibrations, it works perfectly fine. Nothing else so far, but if that's literally all I get, then I'm in a rare camp in which mine is not even majorly faulty. Kudos to TB from me for making resetting the board easy to do.
Bought it, used it for a day. I use a wired headset and for some reason, it made my mic terribly quiet. The handles were also to thin for my preferences. Went back to my elite series 2 and will continue to use those until a elite series 3 comes out.
i did the samething .
4:39 No, it's not the heat or anything like that. It's also not because the Xbox can't handle multiple dongles. It is simply because the radio connection is lost. Your headset also uses the 2.4 GHz band, as does Xbox Wireless, Bluetooth and old WiFi. If you then place the dongle at the back, the signal has to be reflected off the wall or radiate "through" the console (although it is more likely to go past it) instead of from the front directly to the controller. More wireless dongles = more problems. The Trutle Beach Controller's wireless protocol is simply poorly protected against interference.
I know I just left a lot of comments but I want to say that I appreciate your honesty and it looks like you got another hater down low so dance on him because the more haters you got it means you’re doing it right
So basically we just need to continue using our elites and just get a core when it breaks because every other controller is shit 🤦🏾♂️ Microsoft just fixed your dam quality control issues
@@SwagSo7fly7 no we do not if you are on pc there options xbox game sr se g7 1000hz polling rate. It makeing pro controller look bad . Only problem is it’s missing hair triggers that’s it.
i love youre channel by the way big praise
Thank you
I just picked up the Stealth and the + button location is a killer. I accidentally brushed the + button and it left me standing still to get killed in game. Also, had the controller un-pair from the USB dongle once. So far, those are my only gripes with the controller. Build is good, nice and solid. Thanks for the review prior to me purchasing.
I've had the controller for about 2 months now and haven't had any issues arise, in my personal opinion it's a great controller. The only thing I would change is the positioning of the pause buttons
Thanks for saving me the scratch on buying this, I’m 4 elites in now and all same failure point, I’m done getting them replaced. I think I’ll use my King Kong and get the goku
That opening gave me some intense Totally Rad Show Nostalgia. Great stuff!
Turtle Beach and quakity control. The sky is blue.
Had a Recon and had muktiple issues with it. One straight out of the box that made all the onboard audio controls absolutely pointless and then two that started after about 3 weeks.
It'll take a hell of a lot for me to buy another of their products. Hall effect sticks arent good if there are multiple other big issues.
What have you come across that would be a great controller for the PC and on the subject any headsets you’ve favored as well… Got high end Turtle Beach for both and they have both been total ass
@@Silentkittey Razer Kaira X is the headset I have. It was cheap and offered great sound and a great mic. GameSir seems to be the way to go for controllers, although I have a Dualsense Edge atm.
My 8BitDo Ultimate is still working currently as well.
I’ve been through 2 scuff instinct pros ,3 elites series 2 controllers which I found that the Xbox series elite 2 controllers have about a six month to a year shelflife basically stick drift with them, four months and the scuffs with the removable plate. The buttons start to stick fast. I also owned a fusion pro to power a spectrum big big won I’ve tried so many different controllers I’m done paying two to $300 for these premium controllers that don’t even offer anti-drift or guaranteeing 1000 Hz pulling rate as of right now on PC I’m rocking the game sr se Inside of the software you got your thousand hertz update without having a overclock on X input. Also it has Hall effect analog sticks hands-down right now in my opinion that is the best controller on the market and it only cost $44.
I’m a pretty casual gamer now a days with my job and I still manage to burn through Controllers regularly due to stick drift so I’m only looking into “Pro” controllers to try and escape the continuous annoying circle that I’m in. I was and still am surprised how fixing the stick drift issue isn’t considered one of the staples of these high price controllers and how everyone is ok paying more money for a few fancy buttons and different color schemes. Seems to me like fixing the stick drift issue so buying a new controller every few months (regardless of price) should be higher on everyone’s list, would at least make the $200 price tag more worth the investment.
Found this channel looking into the Turtle Beach cause of the better joysticks. Watched the controller show down and was pretty much sold on it… then I found this video and my fears were immediately confirmed. I have a pair of their stealth 700 headsets and had to warranty them 3 times in as many months for connectivity issues with the dongle and the app. Now on my 4th pair and a little over a year in everything seems to be working fine (fingers crossed) but the head piece adjustment is getting a little loose. Was wondering how the connectivity of this controller would be and how it would work with another dongle hanging out of the Xbox and I guess the answer is “not great” I’ll either end up with controller issue or it’ll bring back issues with my headset that’s now out of warranty.
After looking into this maybe it’s time we consider Turtle Beach is not the great company it once was. At least maybe not in my eyes. Seems like all their products lately are having the same type of issues with breaking down fast or not connecting. I know this is a longer post and I could go on on how disappointed I am in the lack of effort companies seem to be putting into fixing issues that kill controllers in their “pro” models in what’s seems more like a money grab by flashing bells and whistles in front of us than anything else but maybe that’s a post for somewhere else
Had mine for a week now and so far no problems and I love it.
Bought it for the klick function on the triggers. Helps this old as with saving some thousands of a second playing COD.
I choose between this, the Elite and the Scuf.
And the Scudmf was just to much dollars.
Do you still have the controller? Any issues just bought mine today
@@alejandrozamora1169 still got it and it's working perfect.
i ordered like 5 elite series 2, three had unresponsive A and select button and two had problems with the sticks they were super hard to click. bought the stealth ultra and im blown away i love it
Still all good ?
@@joshplews475 yep still love it, but i was also so disappointed by the elite maybe im to easy to please now xD
You are the most comprehensive controller reviewer (and genuinely hilarious) but I noticed recently you are pulling back on many “great controller” reviews and releasing follow-ups showing they aren’t great. Would it be more beneficial to wait longer before posting the initial review?
I just bought this yesterday. Had been eyeing it, and your reviews convinced me. And my ognseries controller just started to drift bad enough to affect gameplay. I'll get it Tuesday, hopefully mine works fine!
I love my stealth ultra hands down best controller I have and have ever used. The friction rings are garbage only issue and rub off onto the sticks. Controller needs better friction rings
First impressions are always valuable (and inevitable). It's a community experience to learn about long-term issues that don't seem apparent at first.
I picked up this controller per your original review, and thankfully I haven't had any issues with it. I think I speak on behalf of my fellow stallions/stallionettes that we really appreciate these follow-up reviews to keep us informed about controllers we might be in the market for.
Turtle Beach released firmware updates for the controller and transceiver on the Jan 24th to address the disconnectivity issues. Hopefully it's better now.
I have 0 disconnect issues
It feels like he’s nitpicking here, it’s a solid controller and leagues better than the Microsoft’s own elite. And didn’t he just complain about it having its own dongle that has a FASTER input, that is to say much less input lag, than the Xbox wireless even has? Odd. Seems like he’s determined to tear this controller down. It’s a monster option IMO compared to what’s available.
Why would they respond the reception has been overwhelmingly positive@@cakerer
My stealth has worked flawlessly..I must be lucky
Mine 2 awesome controller. The only thing I would prefer are better friction rings or sticks I think it’s the friction rings tho
I'm really digging these post review thoughts. Like a lot of products in life, you could love something when you first get it, but as you use it more you can learn to either dislike it or downright hate it; especially with game controllers that are known for having bad long-term reliability a lot of the time unfortunately.
As far as the Turtle Beach Stealth Ultra, not to sound snobby, but I would never buy a custom or pro controller at this point that doesn't have gyro. It really is a game-changer for FPS.
pc wise whats the best controller out there for someone who mainly plays destiny 2 which has some serious connectivity issues with my dualsense edge
Honestly I’d use either a razer wolverine v2 or the elite series 2 just like gamer heaven I’ve had nothing but phenomenal experiences with them and their made specifically for pc and xbox just like razer you can’t go wrong with either tbh
The faulty thing was the thumb stick covers, everything else works fine besides the app development, even that catches fire though.
Put a little price of napkin or paper towel under the thumb cover when putting it on the thumb stick, you're golden. They made it 1:1 so it's gonna slip around.
Also while the app may be lacking a bit, it's the first of its kind, there's gonna be flaws, I hope people buy it to make more revisions possible for a better one.
This controller looks like one of those fan made controller images you would see as kids back in the early 2010s.
I just returned mine
Not having other thumbsticks/caps included for this price is absurd. It mattered to me because the sticks are on the smaller side - my little nephew said they felt like sticks on his switch, not a premium $200+ xbox controller
The select (or whatever it's called these days) button placement feels like nobody actually tested this controller for very long. I don't mind when controllers move the start/select buttons from the center, but the select button is awkward to hit with this controller's placement. It's too close to the stick. So if/when you add control stick caps/extensions/grips, this problem will only get worse. This is really annoying when most games keybind an in-game map to this button.
The bumpers are a textbook example of how "mechanical" doesn't always mean better. Yes, these bumpers are mechanical - but they have NO tactile feedback. Because most people use a hinge design for these bumpers, I think the torque lever that it creates on the button is so amplified that there's barely feedback force left at your finger tips. That's just my theory that could be wildly wrong. Point being, these bumpers definitely click, but there's barely any tactility.
They also crafted in some dumb turtle beach logos on the side that break up the very good texturing they built on the side grips - and it creates this really annoying sticky and sweaty spot on your hands. Yet again it feels like nobody tested this for over an hour.
The deal breaker for me, which I think is a shame that people are just glossing over is ergonomics. The triggers are shaped more like shoulders. There is no horizontally flat face on these triggers - they are completely contoured. They're shaped in a way that you "squeeze" these triggers in rather than "pull". I think this is a shame, because it forces your grip around squeezing this controller and it becomes uncomfortable in other grip styles. I like my triggers to feel and pull like....triggers.....with my finger on a flatter face of the trigger and pulling it back. I think a good portion of xbox controller users hold their controllers this way too - and this controller doesn't cater to that.
It's a shame, because at least it has trigger vibration (I know not everyone cares, but I do). After trying all the high end controllers, I'm back to my Vader 3 Pro then....which isn't perfect either, but it's hard to compromise on design quirks/issues when the other controllers cost ~$200.
I have no issues with this controller whatsoever and all I play is warzone on a daily basis
That’s to bad you returned it I absolutely love mine. Best controller I have ever played with or own and I have a lot. This controller is phenomenal and I love the way it feels. Think you get a lot of controller for the money. Only complaint I have about the controller is the friction rings
@@garrettstrutz7421 same here best ive used wish PS had a control just like this one
Personally I only use it on PC and have been using it steady for 10 days and agree about battery life and the control panel you down load sucks but other wise Im loving it and have had no issues with it
Same for me
I returned mine for QC issues. Bad D-Pad, bad bumpers and the right stick would drift wildly after 20 mins or so. Replaced the original and it still did that on Pc. I need a wireless hall effect controller with trigger locks and I don’t know which to get… Help!?
Ok so the problem with the dongle is any dongle which is 2.4ghz they’ll confuse each other like if you’re using the headset and the controller which could disconnect the headset and controller might just keep the headset working might keep the controller working they’re too close together
Looked great.. Sounded great.. BUT… Sent my back after 20 min of gameplay..
Yeah dude, I couldn't justify the price after all that hype. Returned.
Kaleid for PC is still King for me.
Nooooo….!!
Damn I’m was so hype to finally go get one this weekend.
Then I saw the Elite Series 2 was on sale but after my first one got drifty and then the Core drifted after 2 months I just wanted a different option.
I hope they can clean this up. Although there is a lot of pointless options.
I’m torn
there seems to be problems with every controller these days.. for sub $50 controllers that might get a pass because lets be honest it has to come from somewhere. but these are like $200. there should be well tested, no QC problems at all.
I have 2 of these controllers and I do love them the hall effect sticks are amazing they feel very smooth when playing FPS games. I haven't had any disconnect issues with either of them, but on both controllers the right triggers have broke off after only playing with them for 30 days. Turtle beach customer service has been great and I have received replacements for them since they offer a 1 year 5 million clicks on all the buttons. But I feel the like these trigger locks are going to be a issue. All I play is FPS games and never unlock the trigger locks, but for some reason these trigger locks seem to fail and break causing you to loose the right trigger over time. If you have one of these controllers the design on the triggers has this sharp curve towards the end of the trigger and when pressing these triggers down with the trigger locks locked they aren't flush and have a tendency to go more to the right for the right trigger and left to the left trigger because of the sharp design curve of the triggers at the bottom... All in all amazing controller response time is unbeatable feels great in your hands.
holy fvck dude i forgot that youre a VERY great critic im so glad that youre channel is back how did you get the hacker dealed with?????????
i do agree with you on blue tooth not working and the battery life is not good how ever i still think the controller works very well smooth on fighting games good for shooters and the zero stick drift is nice as well however i still think they could of done better
One of my biggest gripes with the controller is the placement of the back button, it's alright without the included caps on, but with, its just so awkward to press. Especially for a game like trials where you press it constantly to restart. 2nd and biggest gripe is the dpad. Having played allot with the official Xbox Series controller and 8bitdo's ultimate and pro 2 controller I will say the dpad is alright to use, but doesn't feel accurate enough for me to want to use. As someone who is a big fan of the tony hawk games I could not consistently land revert to manuals with this controller whereas the other ones I mentioned those I can do it every time.
So while this is the controller I pick up if I'm going to play a game that uses primarily the sticks, like a racing game or third person shooter, I will always opt for an 8bitdo controller when playing a game using the dpad.
I returned this controller in less than 2 weeks. The sticks start to lean, and the amount of lag the controller has is actually insane.
You don't have to use the dongle. I connect it to the Xbox with Xbox wireless (I wasn't aware other people couldn't do it?) and my PC with Bluetooth.
Love the controller despite sending one broken back, don’t love the battery, don’t love the bug on the different stick settings, precision and fast actually are reversed on the controller screen, when you check the app they are different to the screen
Also can’t use right trigger setting on bumper as keeps unregistering the input when holding down
Brand new this controller was on another level. However, for me it was a flash fire and I’ve gotten cold. I won’t be using the Stealth Ultra to game.
I play on Xbox w/ a desk so I used this wired because of disconnects and battery. A let down, but not a deal breaker.
The left stick grind, software, view/start button placement retired it for me.
I did wrap the stick stem with foil tape once the plastics of the anti-friction rings and stick started degrading, but found it a short term solution. It was only a couple days before smooth was back to grinding…. I don’t feel like I’m heavy handed on the sticks either.
I also had some unexplained software issues. One where the D Pad would be sending input. Once where it was stuck on down, and another stuck on right. Playing around disconnecting/reconnecting with Xbox did stop this, however, it has recurred and seams more frequent. The D-Pad did not react the same when using the plus button to enter the display menu.
I’ve also had issues where I’ve tried to calibrate the sticks and triggers and no input or recalibration would happen. In the Xbox app or through the controller’s menu.
The dead zones also had to be increased fairly quickly. I started pretty zero’d out. (Zero’d in controller menu & .02 in game (Destiny 2’s radial dead zone setting)). Last night after a d-pad episode I recalibrated and was running .06 and could see drift @ .05. This is the same setting I use on my 8 month old elite 2 & instinct pro. This might not be apples to apples because I’m not sure what the baseline level is being adjusted in game, but a definite downgrade.
This whole purchase only gave me glimpses of what’s possible. I’m a controller fanatic like I suppose most people here are. And I’m back on my ole elite 2 after hot affairs with stealth & instinct.
So disappointed that we’re still stuck on not which model/brand is the best, but which toy isn’t broken as much at the time.
Man i just unboxed mine and you totally destroyed my hopes and the joy on my face hahahahaha
I know it's going to be hard because he's probably the reason he bought it in the first place but try to experience it on your own before you get let down.
This is the first time hearing people tap the button their xbox controller lol i usually always held it down i didn't know you could just give it a quick tap 😂
Hey bud just wanted to say thanks for all the controller reviews. Much appreciated. And also; I know this doesn't have anything to do with this video but wanted your opinion on what you think is the best and fastest controller i could get: the Victrix Gambit, Thrustmaster Eswap Pro, Razer V2 Chroma, or the Gamesir G7 SE. Do you know which is fastest and your opinion on best overall controller. Thanks
Can't say I've accidentally hit the screen control button but I can see how it could happen, my biggest actual issue is the Select button - especially with caps on the sticks I find muscle memory tapping it I always end up hitting the stick, immersion breaking having to consciously tap it directly for map menu etc
After that, I question longevity of the sticks on the anti friction rings which after a few hours use feel no better than a worn standard controller (esp when comparing to the slick elite feel)
Contrary to your update issues on console app, I actually found the PC app very finicky but Xbox seems to work quite well.
All in all, loving the hall effect and mechanical buttons but I dare say the market is still in need of that holy grail of controllers this one is a solid shot, the best attempt yet infact but isn't quite it.
Maybe the elite series 3 will be the one, if it doesn't use hall effects and mechanical switches however I'll certainly be awaiting the Stealth Ultra 2.
Stealth Ultra looks great and everything, but freaking $280?! I got Dualsense, 8bitdo Pro 2 and Ultimate, Vader 3 Pro, bunch of accessories - everything for less than $200 and I'm more than happy with it.
So I bought one and I like it, but there's a few issues that stop me from LOVING it. So I'm on deployment right now, so right now I'm only using it on PC, but some of the experiences you had mirror mine but I have stuff worth sharing.
1. When using Bluetooth to your phone, you want to make sure to pair BOTH the controller AND the app connection in your Bluetooth settings, otherwise it will drop because the controller is trying to pair to something else.
2. I was experiencing Disconnect issues when hardwired like you were even on PC, I reset the controller and updated the firmware and I since haven't had that problem (again however, I'm on PC, not xbox)
3. Yeah I don't like the PC App ether, it's better using the phone app or just doing the settings straight on the controller screen.
4. My biggest gripe with this, it's the customization is missing what is the MOST important setting for me which is the ability to swap stick inputs. I play my Fps games in southpaw (using right stick for movement and left stick for aim/look) a many newer games are increasing leaving out this option. I had replaced my Elite V1 control that finally broke with this, expecting to do the same thing I did, which was create a profile with the sticks swapped and be able to switch on the fly. I did find a work around though. The first party xbox app works on this, just limited and doesn't support the back buttons. So I made a profile and loaded that into the control.... the only downside is I have to go INTO the app to switch back, unlike the elite controller where I could just switch profiles on the fly...once (or IF) they add this as a feature... the controller for me is perfect
My ONLY complaint is the d-pad started squeaking. Otherwise I honestly have no complaints
200 dollar controller and the first thing i noticed was how light it was. Didn't feel like a controller worth 200 bucks outside of the screen. I slapped my G7 back in and immediately felt how responsive it is in comparison to the stealth.
Thank you for this follow up
My son jusr returned his second controller. He's done! Getting an elite.
I got the controller day one and out of the box it didn't power on whatsoever. held the button and did a hard reset nothing but i took it back to best buy and exchanged for a new one and it works perfectly. This controller and the scuf instinct pro imo are the best out there I've had 5 elites since they came out and every single one has had horrible problems. I did have a problem with the last update with the turtle beach and it made my sticks and triggers not respond but after a hard reset everything was back to normal. I also run mine wired because the wireless is very inconsistent.
Sorry to hear you had an unsavory experience, I would be very frustrated
Fortunately, after 2 weeks of use (mainly Battlefield and UFC) I did't experience any inconvenience. The only thing that doesn't work is the Xbox Wireless Bluetooth connection.
In my opinion it is a very good controller.
My controller was working fine for 5 months, but now the RB stopped working. Is there a fix for this? Since I don't live in USA I can't return this.
I was thinking about getting it but once I really looked & compared it & it was a big NO for that price. Analyzing this ur better off getting the elite 2 & just adding the turtle beach audio adapter. It turns regular headlphones into gaming headphones. The Turtle Beach adapter takes the audio technica mx50s to the next level. U can also add the adapter to any xbox controller but its even better when u have it on the elite 2...The elite 2 has more features...With this ur basically paying for the screen which I'm down if it was maybe $125, but for $200 u get more bang 4 ur buck with the elite 2 & the turtle beach audio adapter
I tried my best to like this controller but it’s flawed i couldnt disable the rgb lights and that caused the battery to last for a few hours and i ultimately returned it for that reason
Why I can not connect my social media to my controller, I try every possibilities and I just feel it's a big scam
I've seen a few comments on Amazon UK mentioning stick drift issues as well as sticks just not responding, also loads of connectivity issues, as well as just general qc problems.
I was about to purchase one for myself until I saw a comment on your previous video's for this controller stating it had some serious issues so I held back, checked Amazon & now seeing this 3rd video I've decided that for the money I'll just stick with the Elite Series 2 as tbh pound for pound although it's pretty dated now I still feel the Elite Series 2 is still the best pro controller available on Xbox & I'm hoping the Series 3 (if it ever releases) will be even better...
Just bought this, right trigger wasn’t registering, tried to calibrate on the controller but still wasn’t registering, tried the app to calibrate and still wasn’t registering, tried factory reset and still nothing… wish an elite 3 would just be released!
Later this year, supposedly, this will happen. Hopefully!
It's a shame to hear that the Bluetooth is so poor as i was intending on using it with my Steam Deck and my Tablet for gaming and Bluetooth would be the only way to connect to those.
To this day I’m still using my wired Razer Wolverine Tournament Edition
I gritted my teeth and bought....the Xbox Elite 2. I NEARLY bought this one, but products that extremely new might have quality control and/or connectivity issues.
I'd say say the the Elite 2 COULD be the same, but i guess its better than this....
And this Turtle Beach one clicks a little too loud for my liking...
Ironic that you talk about QC issues and went with the Elite 2 which is one of the most notorious controllers out there for shit QC.
@@michaelpetrocelli8871 I know. But sadly only the Elite and this Turtle controller seem to have what I want. (back paddles, Bluetooth/wireless connectivity, AND rechargeable all in one)
Hopefully Turtle Beach gets a revision soon, or another third party controller comes along soon...
Ya this guy is great when it comes to going over the controllers and features but truth is when u have over 20 elite controllers and a wall of custom controllers its hard to be able to test durability in the short time he does these reviews.
Also when it comes to controller reviews there is no rush to be first like game reviews or movie reviews.
Nothing beats the elite series 2 ( when its working ) lol
It doesn't have gyro might be a requirement for being an official licensed controller since I never see that feature on any 3rd party licensed controller that I know. Having said that, I didn't check every controller that I know, just some controller from Gamesir and 8bitdo. What is also kinda annoying which might be tied with the license thing is the fact that I have Gamesir T4K that has 3.5mm audio jack but it doesn't work in X-input mode! I wouldn't be surprised if it doesn't work because of the licensing thing. FYI, the 3.5mm jack does work when connected to the PC with other than X-input mode.
This is annoying. I am trying to find the "perfect" hall effect controller for PC, but it looks like it just doesn't exist. All these faults makes me not want to get it. I tried the Gulikit, but didn't like it.
I really enjoy this conteoller.... And just yesterday it simply refused to turn on. Filed a warranty claim. Probably be weeks till they fix or send another.
Dang I’m really sorry to hear that Alan
I literally just returned it I honestly don't like the thumbsticks and the back buttons are to close imo and last it's very very light to me and I kinda don't like that ...idk I mainly think it's a turtle beach issue I just don't like their controller
OMG Thank you. this saved me 200 bucks.
I don't play FPS games, I only play mainly 3rd person games, such as RDR2, GoW, the Jedi series or the classic non-3rd person must have Cyberpunk.
And yet, hesitating, I sent him away.
Finally, sticks with zero drift and zero dead zone. all buttons, bumpers and dpad are mechanical, clickable like a mouse. The quality of workmanship is top, everything fits perfectly, nothing creaks. The pad is very comfortable and handy when playing for a long time, and it charges very quickly. However, there are disadvantages: - compared to elite 2, the pad seems toy-like - nothing is made of metal, everything is plastic and the controller itself is light (240g vs 350), there is no premium feeling of the product in the hands - no BT connection for Xbox and PC, only via dongle (despite the description that it works via BT) - photo in review no. 3 - the battery does not work for 30 hours, I have the LEDs set to static with minimum brightness and the screen off time is 3 minutes, and sleep time is 5 minutes - with these settings the controller works for a maximum of 10-12 hours. To sum up, despite its flaws, it is the most responsive and precise pad I have ever used. So much so that skill challenges in some games that I found difficult to complete went smoothly using this pad. Precision, responsiveness of the mouse, comfort of the mouse. That's why, having a lot of reservations, I still give it 4* because its innovation and performance are unprecedented. Additionally, headphones connected to the cable via a jack sound very well, and there are many options for personalizing the settings. Finally, the screen built into the pad - GREAT, changing settings or profiles directly from the pad, without an external application, is great. An innovative product that requires corrections.
Now update:
After updating the software, the pad had a problem connecting to the dongle, I kept having to pair it again, but then the connection was stable.
Lots of small flaws started to annoy me, that it didn't work in a somewhat transparent way like the original Xbox or PS pads.
I used the pad with a PC, I don't have an Xbox, only a PC and a PS5, so I don't know how it works with the console,
The turning point of the decision to return it was its design defect (I thought it was a defect in my unit and I would replace it with another one, but no) - the pad rubs the stick pin against the ring around the pad when the sticks are deflected - as if someone was filing a tree trunk around.
A lot of people complain about it, we can see the wear and grind of the sticks.
Additionally, the pad is indulgent and toy-like in the hands, it does not give the impression of a premium product, but rather a toy with more LEDs.
I'm waiting for elite 3, hopefully with hall effect sticks and triggers as well as buttons and bumpers with microswitches
I wish the elite controllers didn’t disintegrate with use. Drift, broken buttons, buttons that don’t register inputs, and rubber peeling away (fixed on elite 2.) It’s the only reason I’m looking at this one.
I need to get a controller today what would you recommend now then because I was just about to buy this controller after your first review but now I'm not sure
Ive had 2 xbox elite controllers before the ultra both broken. The ultra is amazing
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Even plugged directly into my pc, there seems to be issues where I’ll get more input lag if I have a headset also plugged into the controller. The dongle also has terrible connectivity. Even plugged into a usb port on top of my pc (sits on the floor right under my desk) it seems to hold a connection but will sometimes not make correct movements based on button clicks or thumb stick movements. They also haven’t updated the firmware since I believe January, so 5ish months ago. I think all of the fixes can be made just by firmware updates and software fixes. Bluetooth connectivity is also an issue for me.
Had mine pretty much since launch. I have some drift on the sticks, although nowhere near as bad as my Elites, it’s there. The D pad is failing, the button presses sometimes don’t register and it loses connection occasionally. It seems Turtle beach have already disowned it as it hasn’t had an update in 4 months. I still prefer it to an elite though, however it’s a £$99 controller at best.
G7se with 1000 hz for console is king
This is a question for anyone, do you prefer the Razer Wolverine V2 Chroma or the Turtle Beach Stealth Ultra?
Mine wouldn't connect to my Series X wired or with the dongle. I saw another guy on TH-cam saying he hooked his up with a USB extension cable to make his work so I tried that and magically it works. No explanation why that worked but now so far so good
Tried it out but it kept disconnecting so pretty much useless at that point, ended up returning it. Also it seems like it could be nice but jeez does it feel cheap.
Sorry to hear that jj
Sup controller captain, have you heard of easysmx new controller the X10? I think it´s a great controller for it's price, but I really want to hear your input on it, keep up the good work!💪
Good morning Andre yes I have, I do believe they’re sending the X 10 over for a review
@@GamerHeavenOfficial that's great news
@GamerHeavenOfficial from the videos I've seen people completely ignore the rear buttons, they never talk about how they feel and if they're mechanical of not
This thing tends to disconnect from my Xbox like once a week and my wired headset works like shit only plugged into this controller... Makes me sad since I spent 200 hundy on it .
I have similar issues
Pretty much obvious upon trying the controller first day that it was extremely flawed… you gotta do more testing before you release these reviews
To be fair, I owned mine for 28 days before it fully died on me. Luckily I was able to get a full refund on it and have since placed an order for the Flydigi Apex 4 instead.
There's always first impressions and long-term playability. Even QC issues can make that initial impression different between multiple consumers. Kevin did his due diligence to follow up. Completely transparent the whole time.
i dont know about that, mine took a literal month before I noticed the problems.
@@Tommyvang187 I tried the controller day one and it just did not feel good. I could not change deadzones and the thumbsticks are actually trash. I have had basically every pro controller there is and this one was one of my least favorites
I have had it just over a week and it has stick drift loose back button and the connectivity issues
For my use case the g7 se is just better in every way for a quarter of the price
I have both controllers and love the G7 but the stealth is in a whole nother league of its own. Best feeling controllers I’ve ever owned
I got mine at launch everything was fine then all of a sudden my R3 button started clicking off the slightest motion which is a problem since I play COD 95% of the time so I'm constantly trying to melee in the middle of gun fights. I've never dropped it. so I thought it might have been user error, went back to my elite 2 and no meleeing in the middle of fights but now stick drift is back and I prefer the mouse click feel of the SU controller
Oh wow, I hadn’t heard of that issue yet but that sounds frustrating
I dont know about you guys but you should really only get the fly digi Vader there it is the same quality but half the price
For some reason i love this controller and i think it is better than elite2
Had this for a week now. Seen every problem mentioned. The biggest issue was that i was playing warzone and couldnt hit my shots. Too far left too far right. Figured out why. I had my headset 3.5 jack attached via headset. As soon as i removed it the controller become accurate again. Can only put this down to latency or some bug. I normally play on 6/6 sense but even put down to 3/3 and was still a noob.
Side niche I don’t see an option to change the face buttons to anything, looks like you can only swap the rear buttons .. I usually change the face buttons to the d pad buttons so I can quickly take my thumb off the right and not have to stop moving by taking off my left
I returned my TB Ultra after a few days of using it. My right stick would get stuck in game to the left. I would have to move the stick to get game movement to center again. Plus I would have ghost actions without pressing any buttons. Horrible QC issues for sure 🤦🏽
So youre a poetic nerd?! Aka the coolest fucking dude ever?! I loved that intro immediately subbed!