Correction: the T4K (original) also has Hall effect sticks, the difference is that this is for Xbox and not switch. The original T4K review is linked in the description if you want to check it out. Any comments just saying the sticks are hall have been removed because the pinned comment addresses it.
@@RationalFunction gamesir really makes some weird choices sometimes. Another one is to call the premium xbox kaleid, just "kaleid". At least they added Flux to the other cheaper model.
so if you want a switch version your out of luck, thats kinda trash tbh but they did need and xbox version for sure. now i actually have a controller to recommend to people.
-The old Kaleid had hall effect sticks. -The Kaleid flux does not have static lights. It’s the same as the other versions and can be changed in the app. -Kaleid is pronounced like kaleidoscopic. Referring to the lights. it’s literally pronounced wrong in every video I see lol.
Been waiting for this one... It's like they just refuse to include all their features in one model so they can fill out their line SMH. Mechanical switches, hall effect sticks, rubber grips, overclocking capability, trigger / rear buttons locks. Charge an extra $30 and take our $, wireless worth some extra $.
Same here. I've been biding my time as I really don't need a controller, got a gulikit king Kong 2 pro which is serving me well for how rarely I use controllers to play games anyway, but I really really want just one end-game controller that's all the gamesir features combined into one. I could easily buy the kaleid models now and just use the gulikit for wireless but yea.
I wonder if it is on the brands or more on Microsoft side not allowing every company to make wireless. There are literally wireless controllers for every other platform, it doesn't make sense for GameSir to just not make one for xbox too
@@jm_sc they do make wireless controllers? I think the only reason they don't make some of the controllers like kaleid wireless just because they're playing the long game Releasing better and more featured controllers every half a year or so
@@Verchiel_ Kalei doesn't have a wireless version, but their other models do, same with 8bitdo. They don't make wireless because it would be significantly cheaper than the Elite 2, Microsoft don't like that
@@stevensv4864 I don’t do fighting games sorry mate. If it helps at all it’s very responsive for up, down, left, right for what I use it for which is BF1. It controls gadgets etc in that game and it’s instant when I press. The controller is even better now I have overclocked it to 500hz.
i've got a T4 Kaleid and i used a small screw about a millimeter or 2 below the trigger that acts as a physical trigger stop and then within the app i set the upper limit trigger range to 11, it works a treat
@@pelts13 very nice mate. What I did is glue two small pieces of the kids Lego on. Have bought a new Kaleid a week ago go because first one broke. This time I have used little sticky back foam stuff that’s meant for furniture bottom’s.
After watching dozens of reviews here on GamerHeaven and from other reputable reviewers like vCuda, VK, etc. ranging from entry level to high end products. I've come to the conclusion that this might be the best "base" controller you can buy for the money. Sure, it doesn't have trigger stops, 4 back buttons, and a few other nice to haves, but what it does do is get all of the basics right. It's got well calibrated hall effect sticks, decent ABXY micro switches, good hall effect triggers, good back button positioning and a comfortable design. The only slight downfall is it's DPAD, however in my use case it's only a minor annoyance as I only use the DPAD for navigating menus and using items in games, would've preferred an 8 point rolling similar to the Turtle Beach Stealth Ultra but it's passable. As far as sticks, face buttons, and triggers go it seems to hit the nail on the head which not many controllers do at this price category and even some above. Yes, it's not aimed at people looking for a full spec pro controller but I'd say it's a great replacement for a standard pad if you're concerned with longevity and performance and a good step into the 'pro' controller realm for people who don't wanna dive into premium tier controllers.
Also, for anyone wants to know, you CAN overclock the Kaleid and Kalied flux. But i had issues updating the software. The solution was to manually force an update in the T4 Software, by holding the xbox and start menu button when plugging it in, then I had to update it in the nexus software. That fixed my issue and i can finally use the 1000hz, and its on its way to replace my g7se
True. Still they're big so it gives lots of room to hold however you want. On others like the flyDigi Apex 4 I have to shoot with R2 and L2 despite preferring L1R1
great video but the only thing I would suggest is you should of compared it more to the g7 and g7se since it's an xbox controller, most xbox gamers never used or cared about the T4
If gamesir gives us a pro wirelles version of this with rubber grips, a trigger stop system that makes them clicky and perhaps a 2k pollong rage it would be an INSTANT blu for me. Also, in the review i think its not clear that you actualli can change the input mode of your t4k by pressing the home bottom + a, b, x or y. You can change to xinput, ds4, switch or generic controller, and the light in the home button changes accordingly.
LOVE this review and I respect your integrity. The Gamesir page on TikTok advertises the Kaelid controller as 1ms out of the box which is indeed FALSE and does a great job selling the controller as such. I see so many people in their comments during the live who end up buying the controller due to his dishonest information about the controller (im a victim). As soon as I received my controller I began testing it excited about the 1ms input delay which i came to find out it was not true (4ms). I wish I came across this review before buying and hope more people watch this review. Not a bad controller but as a competitive player these things can be deal breakers. Also not saying the Kaelid is not a good controller. (YOU CAN STILL OVERCLOCK TO 1000hz USING THEIR SOFTWARE BUT HEADPHONE JACK WILL BE DISABLED) which was another dishonest statement the Gamesir page on TikTok was using to sell to customers in their live. (which goes live very frequently)
There's instructions on Gamesir's Support -> Tutorial section on how to increase the Kaleid polling rate to 1000hz, it has to be done on a PC I believe. My Kaleid is getting here tomorrow hopefully it works!
@@kazuto5061 I wasn't able to figure out how to get it to work and every time I try to do the button combo I'm supposed to do before the firmware update makes it so I have to restart my PC to try to get it to detect my controller as it says a USB device malfunctioned. I think I'm just gonna give up and use it as is
@@goodcat3437 damn I rly want that 1000 hz, I hate the g7 se because of the plate moves a lot when u play, if somehow you could do it please let me know , thank you
oh my god i love you for this review i was wondering if the new kaleid had anti friction rings but in your opinion whats better the g7se or the new kaleid
I unfortunately got a defective unit /: couldn’t calibrate them due to the triggers not being able to be fully actuated to the “255” on the nexus app, had actual stick drift out the box (had to up the Deadzones to 20), and couldn’t change the polling rate.. kinda bummed but ordered another one GameSir was really kind and tried to help best they could through emails but unfortunately couldn’t fix the issue. Anyways, great video Kevin! 🖤
Gamepad tester is only showing 0.0002 on the sticks because of the software deadzone. If you retest it after changing the deadzone in gamesir Nexus you can see the actual values. Found this out with my G7.
Your videos helped me over clock my gamesir g7se to 1000hz, thank you so much!! Do you happen to know how to get it back down to 500hz so that maybe I have a chance to use the headphone jack?
@@xKillZone99 thanks for the response! how do you like the new Kaleid so far? I did so much research and decided to get the T4 Kaleid and then I realized they released this new black one. Should I just order this new one and return the old one? (Old one is still in shipping)
@brody8857 I like it alot, I have the g7 and g7se, I use the kaleid for xbox gaming so I've never used the T4 but they're probably identical I would imagine
@@xKillZone99 I only game on pc. But yeah I’ve watched a few reviews and this new kaleid seems like an upgrade over the older t4 even tho they are quite similar. I’m just going to order the new one and test both out to see which one I like better.
Man you reviewed all of these gamesir controllers if you have to classify them which one is the best in all aspects? For wired and for wireless i want to use it on my gaming rig especially on fifa and aaa titles or story modes that has less shooting in the game cuz nothing approach to my gaming mice logitech g 502 hero form any controller in terms of shooting
My gripe with the T4K is more of a design flaw. Because of the design of the controller when I use it my finger constantly hits LB/RB unintentionally. I don't have this issue with any other controller. If it wasn't an issue it'd be a cool controller. There needs to be better spacing between the triggers and the bumpers or give the controller a bit more width at the top. It's far to easy to accidentally acuate the LB/RB buttons.
I'd like to leave some questions about upgrades to the new Kaleid. Weather the 3.5mm headphone jack works with X-input and if the face buttons(ABXY) are less wobley than the T4k
from what I know, this model is/was also known as the K1 Kaleid (idk why they omitted the K1 from the name because it really helps differentiate itself from the T4 controllers)
I have the older t4 kaleid. I liked it a lot but stopped using it bc I missed the short trigger pull of my elite series 2 with the actual trigger stops vs the digital ones on the kalied. If they just introduced that 1 feature I would probably buy the new version and leave my elite series 2 behind.
Very informative; however, I'm still conflicted between this, the G7 (SE) and 8bitdo controllers. Will you be reviewing the new 8bitdo Ultimate C controller anytime soon?
I did recently seitch back to the T4 from the Vader 3 pro due to preferring the switches if the face button. But also been using the G7 on mobile and now prefer those membrane switches.
Sorry this is late, happy memorial day, thank you for your service captain. And I'm looking forward to the mobapad huben video. Not demanding, just saying.
I would only use this as a backup or a main controller on the xbox because the flydigi apex is unmatched right now but the only reason to even use the gamesir is because I wouldn't need an adapter.
Hey guys can anyone help me? I’ve been wanting to buy a controller that has Hall effect sticks and flat face buttons that also has quiet triggers and bumpers can anyone recommend me some?
Sticking with my g7se. Not a fan of the dark color scheme. I don't like finger prints. My dream game sir controller for xbox would be. hal effect sticks, tactile buttons, grips from g7, clear plastic from T4, I'm fine with 2 rear buttons, don't need wireless as I play on a monitor, but would love physical trigger stops. Currently I hot glue the ends of zip ties on my triggers to make a trigger stop.
Do we know if this one will have the ability to OC at some point, or are we stuck with yet another Gamesir controller that has 75% of the features we want, but not all?
Ok so I watched the video on the original T4 Kaleid and was sold on it, but decided to check this video out just in case this new Kaleid was better. But I guess it seems the OG is still a bit better?
other than the mechanical buttons, i dont see why this is so expensive compared to the g7 se they have? the value of the g7 se is hard to beat and they are basically the same controller in features
Just bought a g7 se couldn’t ask for more decent price good for shooters was interested in the cosmetic look of the kalid but turnd out the g7 had much better in the input speed and if you are lucky and have low ping man you cankill
thank you for wonderful videos, I play dragon's crown and other beat'em up games, sometimes street fighter, diablo4 like games, should I choose t4 cyclone pro or direwolf2 ? I like the Dpad of direwolf2 but the ciruclarity test is better on T4/g7 se?thank you
They should've given it another name to save on confusion. Just call it the gamesir another lateral move. All we want is the gamesir stealth pro ultra, minus the screen.
I'm asking myself the same question. My classic xbox controller got stick drift so I've been scouring the internet for my next gamepad. I think after watching tons of reviews and reading tons of reddit posts, I'm going to go with the "OG" T4 Kaleid. It just has all the features I want which sucks because this newer Kaleid should be an upgrade but lacks the nice face buttons of the old one.
I am very experienced in hall effect controllers, and my choice today, and for the last year, has been the T4 Kaleid. KK3 Max is at the same level, with the plus of having 4 rear buttons, but for some reason my daily driver is the T4 Kaleid. My Apex 4 is on the way, so I cannot comment on it yet.
my g7 still works fine, I've had a issue where my trigger activates without me pressing it. But I fixed it by just holding the rt button with full force for like 40 seconds.
I bought t4 kaleid and headphone jack is not working on x input when i switch to ps4 input mod headphone jack works what is the problem can you help my? Am i missing drivers or what?
hey bro i wonder something i have the kaleid and g7 se kaleid arrive just a few days ago, after i try it have a bad point justonly one and its microswitch dpad for fighting games, it is really hard to do combos, with g7 se is so easy.. but let me tell you what is good bc is a lot.. 1000hz native windows 10 500 hz with audio vibration feels much more stronger and deep even in level 3 it is better than the g7 se in level 4.. RGB for more fps :v i think im gonna sell this kaleid and buy the flux one bc i think is just the same but with membrane, doesnt it?
the difference between the flux and the other is mainly just rgb and membrane buttons aswell as the software doesn’t seem to recognize the flux, however i don’t own any gamesir controllers so don’t take my word for it
dunno but it seems the price went 20€ up with this "upgrade version.".. it's 65€ now for Kaleid and no more T4 Kaleid in store which was 40€ when I check couple months back. sure 60€ is cheap for a these specs, but it was around 40€ when I checked it out couple months back. I regret so much not buying the T4 Kaleid then.
PLEASE HELP! I have only had this controller for 1 day I have the one that's not the flux and not the original t4 I'm having one major issue if i turn my series x off with it the second my console turns off it immediately powers it back on only work around i have found was to turn the console off and immediately unplug controller or it will turn my series x back on every single time and when i plug the controller back in to turn my console on the xbox button on the controller won't turn the console back on is this a firmware issue will it be solved with an update or should i return it and get a different one??? If i wasn't having this issue and they had paddle locks like the g7 se this pad would get a 10 out of 10 for me.
I bought the Kaleid for Xbox after enjoying the T4 for PC for a long time. The Xbox Kaleid has no turbo button functions like the T4. Huge bummer. Do you know if there’s any Xbox controllers that have turbo button functions???
Im looking for a new PC controller, xinput preferably with xbox layout, but I need to know which one is the most wuiet controller, the Xbox series controllers have a very loud and clickity claky noise, I have been using my switch pro controller which is super quiet, but id prefer an actual xinput and xbox layout for PC
I had the same issue with the flux... i tried everything gamesir said giving them licenses in my pc etc etc but game nexus didnt recognised the flux even i tried with a 2nd flux but the result was the same, finally i had to refund both because i was interested in the 1000hz ft
I have and am currently using the original T4K and I'm running it overclocked at 1000Hz polling rate directly through the T4 software. I even used the same software you are using to check it was actually overclocked and it is. Does this mean the new Kaleid is polling rate locked at 250Hz or can it also go up to 1000Hz through the app like the previous T4K can?
I’ve only seen the overclocking option on the game sir Nexus application but I’ve never seen it in the T4 app, maybe I’m missing a tab or setting. I’ll get back to you on that.
@@GamerHeavenOfficial Definitely look into it. My T4k is 1000hz, and I've heard there's away to get slightly more than 1000hz on the Xbox Kaleid. I was looking forward to seeing you test the polling rate of the Xbox Kaleid at 1000hz.
When I used a silicon sleeve thumbstick cap on the left T4 stick it would rub up against the casing when I would roll up/right direction, there just wasnt enough room. Is this any different on the new ones?
do u think scuf gonna release a ps5 controller with a custom format like the scuf impact with he sticks in the next vew months because that would be insane especially beacuse of bo6 coming
You can Update the app and controller manual on PC and use 1000hz. You find updated on gamesir. And you can aktivated the 1000hz then on PC and use on xbox.
anyone know of the optimal app/ingame settings for max aim assist in halo would be? Stock settings seem like I basically don't get aim assist anymore in the game with the kaleid/g7se
Lol shouldve got this instead of the G7 SE. G7 is just a touch too small for me. Xbox Series controllers feel wonderful in my hands, and it's mildly uncomfortable switching to the G7 SE.
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Correction: the T4K (original) also has Hall effect sticks, the difference is that this is for Xbox and not switch.
The original T4K review is linked in the description if you want to check it out. Any comments just saying the sticks are hall have been removed because the pinned comment addresses it.
Are you gonna review a new 8bitdo Xbox controllers and upcoming 3-Mode Ultimate?
@@RationalFunction gamesir really makes some weird choices sometimes. Another one is to call the premium xbox kaleid, just "kaleid". At least they added Flux to the other cheaper model.
so if you want a switch version your out of luck, thats kinda trash tbh but they did need and xbox version for sure. now i actually have a controller to recommend to people.
@@Dami19XX how is that a weird decision, 90% of people who buy this controller play on pc.
-The old Kaleid had hall effect sticks.
-The Kaleid flux does not have static lights. It’s the same as the other versions and can be changed in the app.
-Kaleid is pronounced like kaleidoscopic. Referring to the lights. it’s literally pronounced wrong in every video I see lol.
Been waiting for this one... It's like they just refuse to include all their features in one model so they can fill out their line SMH. Mechanical switches, hall effect sticks, rubber grips, overclocking capability, trigger / rear buttons locks. Charge an extra $30 and take our $, wireless worth some extra $.
Agree completely. I'd much rather have the rubber back and build quality of the G7 with the hall effect sticks of the other ones.
Same here. I've been biding my time as I really don't need a controller, got a gulikit king Kong 2 pro which is serving me well for how rarely I use controllers to play games anyway, but I really really want just one end-game controller that's all the gamesir features combined into one.
I could easily buy the kaleid models now and just use the gulikit for wireless but yea.
I wonder if it is on the brands or more on Microsoft side not allowing every company to make wireless. There are literally wireless controllers for every other platform, it doesn't make sense for GameSir to just not make one for xbox too
@@jm_sc they do make wireless controllers?
I think the only reason they don't make some of the controllers like kaleid wireless just because they're playing the long game
Releasing better and more featured controllers every half a year or so
@@Verchiel_ Kalei doesn't have a wireless version, but their other models do, same with 8bitdo. They don't make wireless because it would be significantly cheaper than the Elite 2, Microsoft don't like that
Bought a Kaleid for Xbox a week ago. Love it.
Miles better than the Elite 2 I was previously using.
Just a shame it has no trigger stops
what about dpad in fighting games
@@stevensv4864 I don’t do fighting games sorry mate. If it helps at all it’s very responsive for up, down, left, right for what I use it for which is BF1. It controls gadgets etc in that game and it’s instant when I press.
The controller is even better now I have overclocked it to 500hz.
@@michaelcrimp8193 i haven seen reviews were say it its bad even worse for fighting vs normal dpad flux
i've got a T4 Kaleid and i used a small screw about a millimeter or 2 below the trigger that acts as a physical trigger stop and then within the app i set the upper limit trigger range to 11, it works a treat
@@pelts13 very nice mate. What I did is glue two small pieces of the kids Lego on. Have bought a new Kaleid a week ago go because first one broke. This time I have used little sticky back foam stuff that’s meant for furniture bottom’s.
FINALLY I HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS VIDDDD
2 more paddles and trigger stops and it would be perfect. the smoked face plate looks sooo good with the rest of the black imo
After watching dozens of reviews here on GamerHeaven and from other reputable reviewers like vCuda, VK, etc. ranging from entry level to high end products.
I've come to the conclusion that this might be the best "base" controller you can buy for the money. Sure, it doesn't have trigger stops, 4 back buttons, and a few other nice to haves, but what it does do is get all of the basics right. It's got well calibrated hall effect sticks, decent ABXY micro switches, good hall effect triggers, good back button positioning and a comfortable design. The only slight downfall is it's DPAD, however in my use case it's only a minor annoyance as I only use the DPAD for navigating menus and using items in games, would've preferred an 8 point rolling similar to the Turtle Beach Stealth Ultra but it's passable. As far as sticks, face buttons, and triggers go it seems to hit the nail on the head which not many controllers do at this price category and even some above. Yes, it's not aimed at people looking for a full spec pro controller but I'd say it's a great replacement for a standard pad if you're concerned with longevity and performance and a good step into the 'pro' controller realm for people who don't wanna dive into premium tier controllers.
been waiting for this one, thanks for the comprehensive review(s)
My pleasure!
Also, for anyone wants to know, you CAN overclock the Kaleid and Kalied flux. But i had issues updating the software. The solution was to manually force an update in the T4 Software, by holding the xbox and start menu button when plugging it in, then I had to update it in the nexus software. That fixed my issue and i can finally use the 1000hz, and its on its way to replace my g7se
Still no 4 button gamesir controller. Sad days...
True. Still they're big so it gives lots of room to hold however you want. On others like the flyDigi Apex 4 I have to shoot with R2 and L2 despite preferring L1R1
The T4 Pro has 4 rear buttons, kinda, I hope they aren't using that case because they are designing a better one.
@@AndresAlvarez-dq2ft Yeah T4 pro looks good, is there big difference between kaleid flux and t4 pro?
great video but the only thing I would suggest is you should of compared it more to the g7 and g7se since it's an xbox controller, most xbox gamers never used or cared about the T4
Good point
If gamesir gives us a pro wirelles version of this with rubber grips, a trigger stop system that makes them clicky and perhaps a 2k pollong rage it would be an INSTANT blu for me.
Also, in the review i think its not clear that you actualli can change the input mode of your t4k by pressing the home bottom + a, b, x or y. You can change to xinput, ds4, switch or generic controller, and the light in the home button changes accordingly.
The Kaleid and Kaleid Flux are for PC/Xbox the Kaleid T4 is for PC/Android/Switch and has 6-axis gyro!
LOVE this review and I respect your integrity. The Gamesir page on TikTok advertises the Kaelid controller as 1ms out of the box which is indeed FALSE and does a great job selling the controller as such. I see so many people in their comments during the live who end up buying the controller due to his dishonest information about the controller (im a victim). As soon as I received my controller I began testing it excited about the 1ms input delay which i came to find out it was not true (4ms). I wish I came across this review before buying and hope more people watch this review. Not a bad controller but as a competitive player these things can be deal breakers. Also not saying the Kaelid is not a good controller. (YOU CAN STILL OVERCLOCK TO 1000hz USING THEIR SOFTWARE BUT HEADPHONE JACK WILL BE DISABLED) which was another dishonest statement the Gamesir page on TikTok was using to sell to customers in their live. (which goes live very frequently)
Loving the 1000hz on T4k, never going back.
this one does 1000hz also
There's instructions on Gamesir's Support -> Tutorial section on how to increase the Kaleid polling rate to 1000hz, it has to be done on a PC I believe. My Kaleid is getting here tomorrow hopefully it works!
Let us know
Did it work?
@@kazuto5061 I wasn't able to figure out how to get it to work and every time I try to do the button combo I'm supposed to do before the firmware update makes it so I have to restart my PC to try to get it to detect my controller as it says a USB device malfunctioned. I think I'm just gonna give up and use it as is
@@goodcat3437 damn I rly want that 1000 hz, I hate the g7 se because of the plate moves a lot when u play, if somehow you could do it please let me know , thank you
@@goodcat3437 I just ordered one today. Don't give up. I can't go back from 1000hz. I use the G7SE.....
Don't see me upgrading my awesome G7.
oh my god i love you for this review i was wondering if the new kaleid had anti friction rings but in your opinion whats better the g7se or the new kaleid
I unfortunately got a defective unit /: couldn’t calibrate them due to the triggers not being able to be fully actuated to the “255” on the nexus app, had actual stick drift out the box (had to up the Deadzones to 20), and couldn’t change the polling rate.. kinda bummed but ordered another one
GameSir was really kind and tried to help best they could through emails but unfortunately couldn’t fix the issue.
Anyways, great video Kevin! 🖤
I’m sorry to hear that Cody. Thank you.
Gamepad tester is only showing 0.0002 on the sticks because of the software deadzone. If you retest it after changing the deadzone in gamesir Nexus you can see the actual values. Found this out with my G7.
Interesting.
If you were picking from the G7se and the kalied, which one would you pick?
t4k now, the g7 SE is better for shooting game in my options
Your videos helped me over clock my gamesir g7se to 1000hz, thank you so much!! Do you happen to know how to get it back down to 500hz so that maybe I have a chance to use the headphone jack?
Or is the over clock irreversible
the dpad on the new xbox kaleid is arguably the best controller D-pad I've used especially with emulation and fighting games so far
How does it feel? Is it like a clicky one? The Xbox series controllers have a hard clicky one but I assume it’s not mechanical.
@brody8857 it's mechanical so the dpad is clicky and very responsive
@@xKillZone99 thanks for the response! how do you like the new Kaleid so far? I did so much research and decided to get the T4 Kaleid and then I realized they released this new black one. Should I just order this new one and return the old one? (Old one is still in shipping)
@brody8857 I like it alot, I have the g7 and g7se, I use the kaleid for xbox gaming so I've never used the T4 but they're probably identical I would imagine
@@xKillZone99 I only game on pc. But yeah I’ve watched a few reviews and this new kaleid seems like an upgrade over the older t4 even tho they are quite similar. I’m just going to order the new one and test both out to see which one I like better.
It seems like companies are really mudding up the difference between haptics and rumble.
Man you reviewed all of these gamesir controllers if you have to classify them which one is the best in all aspects?
For wired and for wireless i want to use it on my gaming rig especially on fifa and aaa titles or story modes that has less shooting in the game cuz nothing approach to my gaming mice logitech g 502 hero form any controller in terms of shooting
My gripe with the T4K is more of a design flaw. Because of the design of the controller when I use it my finger constantly hits LB/RB unintentionally. I don't have this issue with any other controller. If it wasn't an issue it'd be a cool controller. There needs to be better spacing between the triggers and the bumpers or give the controller a bit more width at the top. It's far to easy to accidentally acuate the LB/RB buttons.
Thanks for sharing this
I'd like to leave some questions about upgrades to the new Kaleid. Weather the 3.5mm headphone jack works with X-input and if the face buttons(ABXY) are less wobley than the T4k
What's your recommendation for xbox, g7, g7 se or kaleid? Im just confused with their complete lineup.
G7 SE imo
from what I know, this model is/was also known as the K1 Kaleid (idk why they omitted the K1 from the name because it really helps differentiate itself from the T4 controllers)
I have the older t4 kaleid. I liked it a lot but stopped using it bc I missed the short trigger pull of my elite series 2 with the actual trigger stops vs the digital ones on the kalied. If they just introduced that 1 feature I would probably buy the new version and leave my elite series 2 behind.
Thank you for sharing Rusty. That elite 2 does spoil us..when they aren’t broken 😉
Very informative; however, I'm still conflicted between this, the G7 (SE) and 8bitdo controllers.
Will you be reviewing the new 8bitdo Ultimate C controller anytime soon?
G7se
I did recently seitch back to the T4 from the Vader 3 pro due to preferring the switches if the face button. But also been using the G7 on mobile and now prefer those membrane switches.
T4 have turbo function?
Sorry this is late, happy memorial day, thank you for your service captain. And I'm looking forward to the mobapad huben video. Not demanding, just saying.
My pleasure Minty. I would love to review that MOBA
I would only use this as a backup or a main controller on the xbox because the flydigi apex is unmatched right now but the only reason to even use the gamesir is because I wouldn't need an adapter.
How do you get the apex 4 to work on Xbox? Adapter like wingman or mayflash magic x?
The fact that it's made for Xbox means it's gonna have full compatibility with all pc games. Without having to scour the internet for drivers I mean.
In the Philippines me have the K1 Kalied which is the non gold one. I have it and I love it.
Hey guys can anyone help me? I’ve been wanting to buy a controller that has Hall effect sticks and flat face buttons that also has quiet triggers and bumpers can anyone recommend me some?
Sticking with my g7se. Not a fan of the dark color scheme. I don't like finger prints. My dream game sir controller for xbox would be. hal effect sticks, tactile buttons, grips from g7, clear plastic from T4, I'm fine with 2 rear buttons, don't need wireless as I play on a monitor, but would love physical trigger stops. Currently I hot glue the ends of zip ties on my triggers to make a trigger stop.
The question is: is there an upgrade in performance when jumbing from t4k to kalied or it's just related to buttons and moding them ?
Do we know if this one will have the ability to OC at some point, or are we stuck with yet another Gamesir controller that has 75% of the features we want, but not all?
Pretty sure gamesir has a tutorial on their website. It's a little hard to find though
I hope the d pad is clicky and nice
Ok so I watched the video on the original T4 Kaleid and was sold on it, but decided to check this video out just in case this new Kaleid was better. But I guess it seems the OG is still a bit better?
other than the mechanical buttons, i dont see why this is so expensive compared to the g7 se they have? the value of the g7 se is hard to beat and they are basically the same controller in features
Just bought a g7 se couldn’t ask for more decent price good for shooters was interested in the cosmetic look of the kalid but turnd out the g7 had much better in the input speed and if you are lucky and have low ping man you cankill
thank you for wonderful videos, I play dragon's crown and other beat'em up games, sometimes street fighter, diablo4 like games, should I choose t4 cyclone pro or direwolf2 ? I like the Dpad of direwolf2 but the ciruclarity test is better on T4/g7 se?thank you
Don’t worry to much about the circularity test
@@GamerHeavenOfficial thank you!!
Should i get the kaleid or the g7 se ? Please let me know
I like the T4 Kaleid over the G7 SE. So I would say buy the new Kaleid.
They should've given it another name to save on confusion. Just call it the gamesir another lateral move. All we want is the gamesir stealth pro ultra, minus the screen.
Correct 👍🏼
I have the T4kaleid I bought over a year ago, was thinking of grabbing the new kaleid thoughts?
bought my T4 Kaleid 6 months ago and it has survived nearly 1,200 hours of FPS abuse
Wich one is the absolute best out of it all for PC ? There are so many options from gamesir, flydigi, 8bitdo, etc... What is the best controller ???
I'm asking myself the same question. My classic xbox controller got stick drift so I've been scouring the internet for my next gamepad. I think after watching tons of reviews and reading tons of reddit posts, I'm going to go with the "OG" T4 Kaleid. It just has all the features I want which sucks because this newer Kaleid should be an upgrade but lacks the nice face buttons of the old one.
I am very experienced in hall effect controllers, and my choice today, and for the last year, has been the T4 Kaleid. KK3 Max is at the same level, with the plus of having 4 rear buttons, but for some reason my daily driver is the T4 Kaleid. My Apex 4 is on the way, so I cannot comment on it yet.
@@blorbb5398 I ordered the new games Kaleid with the smoked out face and it is awesome I love this controlller
A little hot glue and you just made the best trigger stops
my g7 still works fine, I've had a issue where my trigger activates without me pressing it. But I fixed it by just holding the rt button with full force for like 40 seconds.
I bought t4 kaleid and headphone jack is not working on x input when i switch to ps4 input mod headphone jack works what is the problem can you help my? Am i missing drivers or what?
Same happens with me just use it on ps4 input
hey bro i wonder something i have the kaleid and g7 se
kaleid arrive just a few days ago, after i try it have a bad point justonly one and its microswitch dpad for fighting games, it is really hard to do combos, with g7 se is so easy.. but let me tell you what is good bc is a lot..
1000hz native windows 10
500 hz with audio
vibration feels much more stronger and deep even in level 3 it is better than the g7 se in level 4..
RGB for more fps :v
i think im gonna sell this kaleid and buy the flux one bc i think is just the same but with membrane, doesnt it?
the difference between the flux and the other is mainly just rgb and membrane buttons aswell as the software doesn’t seem to recognize the flux, however i don’t own any gamesir controllers so don’t take my word for it
you also get a hall effect t4k version
dunno but it seems the price went 20€ up with this "upgrade version.".. it's 65€ now for Kaleid and no more T4 Kaleid in store which was 40€ when I check couple months back.
sure 60€ is cheap for a these specs, but it was around 40€ when I checked it out couple months back. I regret so much not buying the T4 Kaleid then.
We need the new Razor Wolverine V3 reviewed, please.
Quick question can you use ds4 windows with the gamesir khaleid? Im using it for cod yy macros
after more time with them, would you say get the "xbox" kaleid, or the T4 for the gyro?
Does anyone know if you can make it so that when you have hair triggers turned on it doesn’t activate the rgb when pressed? Thanks in advance
I followed your buy guide and bought a gamesir but never arrived, still waiting for a refund 3 months after :)
Does this new updated Kaleid still have the same turbo function you demonstrated in your t4k review? Please if anyone knows the answer lmk.
PLEASE HELP! I have only had this controller for 1 day I have the one that's not the flux and not the original t4 I'm having one major issue if i turn my series x off with it the second my console turns off it immediately powers it back on only work around i have found was to turn the console off and immediately unplug controller or it will turn my series x back on every single time and when i plug the controller back in to turn my console on the xbox button on the controller won't turn the console back on is this a firmware issue will it be solved with an update or should i return it and get a different one??? If i wasn't having this issue and they had paddle locks like the g7 se this pad would get a 10 out of 10 for me.
I had the same - update it with the t4 app
Thanks so much I really appreciate it fixed the issue I was having immediately! Big Ups!
I bought the Kaleid for Xbox after enjoying the T4 for PC for a long time. The Xbox Kaleid has no turbo button functions like the T4. Huge bummer.
Do you know if there’s any Xbox controllers that have turbo button functions???
Im looking for a new PC controller, xinput preferably with xbox layout, but I need to know which one is the most wuiet controller, the Xbox series controllers have a very loud and clickity claky noise, I have been using my switch pro controller which is super quiet, but id prefer an actual xinput and xbox layout for PC
Is it better than the gamesir se? I had to return that controller because of the analog sticks. Felt off
Off in which way? The sticks on the g7 lineup are shorter than most other sticks. In the original kaleid they were a but higher for example.
I had the same issue with the flux... i tried everything gamesir said giving them licenses in my pc etc etc but game nexus didnt recognised the flux even i tried with a 2nd flux but the result was the same, finally i had to refund both because i was interested in the 1000hz ft
Does only the old kaleid t4k have the gyroscope? Do the newer kaleids have a gyroscope too?
Kontrol freek precision rings do not fit properly on the kaleid controllers. There is no issue with the g7 se. It is really annoying
23:27 does the T4 Kaleid work on Ps4-Ps5 with the adapter?
It has a ps mode it should work without adapter
How does this compare to the G7 SE?
I have and am currently using the original T4K and I'm running it overclocked at 1000Hz polling rate directly through the T4 software. I even used the same software you are using to check it was actually overclocked and it is. Does this mean the new Kaleid is polling rate locked at 250Hz or can it also go up to 1000Hz through the app like the previous T4K can?
I’ve only seen the overclocking option on the game sir Nexus application but I’ve never seen it in the T4 app, maybe I’m missing a tab or setting. I’ll get back to you on that.
@@GamerHeavenOfficial Definitely look into it. My T4k is 1000hz, and I've heard there's away to get slightly more than 1000hz on the Xbox Kaleid. I was looking forward to seeing you test the polling rate of the Xbox Kaleid at 1000hz.
Should I get g7 se or kaleid for Fortnite?
This new kaleid or g7se for pc ?
these are my only two options from gamesir
thanks.
Which gamesir xbox controller is best for sports and fighting games?
Are you sure you’ve tested sticks without default software locked deadzones?
I lost it at “this many plus 10 girlfriends”
Thoughts on the epindon hall effect modules for the victrix?
had the t4k for a while, still don't know how to get the earphone jack to work.
No mention of the missing six axis gyro from the T4?
just bought t4 kaleid the OG one and it keeps on disconnecting from the t4k app can someone help? did the home plus icon button but still the same
kaleid xbox vs g7 se?
Will these support 1000Hz in a future update, similarly to the T4?
Yep, they do as of now. Got 1000hz working on my Kaleid
When I used a silicon sleeve thumbstick cap on the left T4 stick it would rub up against the casing when I would roll up/right direction, there just wasnt enough room. Is this any different on the new ones?
i'm experiencing the same on my t4k i've ordered some kontrolfreeks omni low profile stick extenders hopefully i'll get with them
How the same thing with my Kontrol freaks on my g7se
So which is better the new kaleid or the og
Awe i don't know why they cant have all the features they have on their controllers with 4 rear buttons.I will pay double just to have it all.
GAMESIR KALEID!
I just want a wireless controller like this for Xbox why is it so hard
my controller keeps disconnecting and i’m not sure what’s causing it
do u think scuf gonna release a ps5 controller with a custom format like the scuf impact with he sticks in the next vew months because that would be insane especially beacuse of bo6 coming
Hoy do you connect it to the switch? Mine is not recognized
The app lets you overclock the t4 kaleid to 1000hz. What about the new kaleid?
According to the discord. The new Kaleid will have that feature in the future. Currently you have to overclock it manually from their website.
You can Update the app and controller manual on PC and use 1000hz.
You find updated on gamesir.
And you can aktivated the 1000hz then on PC and use on xbox.
good day. no turbo button on all 3 controllers?
If only they made a 4 button controller.
anyone know of the optimal app/ingame settings for max aim assist in halo would be? Stock settings seem like I basically don't get aim assist anymore in the game with the kaleid/g7se
Why does every cheaper controller maker not like to make good 4 back button designs 😢😢
YO, doesn't the app allow you to change it to 1000 hz?!?!
Lol shouldve got this instead of the G7 SE.
G7 is just a touch too small for me. Xbox Series controllers feel wonderful in my hands, and it's mildly uncomfortable switching to the G7 SE.
daca nu greșesc mai este o diferență neanunțată și anume: Kaleid xbox are 4 motoare vibratoare față de 2 la t4 Kaleid
Next up:Asus rog tessen vs the gamesir PlayStation edition mobile controller
I just wish I could get my T4 to work on Xbox. I tried using a Brook adapter and it handles pretty much anything I use but the T4 wouldnt comply.
Wouldn’t comply. I like the way you talk