I love the elite. But yeah. The elite sucks. Day 1 on 4 controllers i had SLIGHT but noticable delay and drift. I bought a gamesir for 30 bucks and its better. Xbox needs to step up ASAP.
@@pandamonium0_042 it's mainly the bumpers that fail. They're incredibly weak. Depending what games you play they can fail quicker, for example Gears of War, RB being reload will see that bumper fail much sooner. I remap games like those bumper controls to the upper back paddles to extend the integrity of those bumpers.
The "wired 1000 Hz yay!" comes from the fact that official Xbox controllers have been stuck at 125 Hz for some time now. Most other controllers are better than that, but still usually lower than 1000 Hz, especially wireless.
Wolverine v3 tournament is $99 with same specs/features just not wireless. Most definitely grabbing one ☝️ $199 for the V3 Pro isn’t worth it IMO but to each their own
I can agree to that. I bought the Wolverine Ultimate (the original) and it's what I'm rolling with for now. I'm a sucker for controllers so I might buy this,
I just ordered the tournament. My dog broke my right thumb stick on my gamesir g7. I fixed it with a staple, but it kinda janky, but it'll work until the new one comes.
Agreed, I was mind blown by the Flydigi Apex 4, never used the Vader, there isn't a comparison, and I've had lots of them including razer, turtle beach, elite, elite v2, various scuf's (ewe 100%), and a battle beaver (playstation style)..
Agreed I got mine this week and I think its at least as good as and in some areas better than my Scuf Envision Pro. Certainly insane value and features for PC.
they literally cant use magnetic thumbsticks anymore. the V2 had it, but in case you forgot the modules are Hall Effect. the magnet on the thumbstick top would break the modules functionality below. you see the same issue with controllers that have both hall effect sticks and triggers. whenever the trigger is fully depressed the thumbstick next to it starts to cut out or not function properly.
@@its.skamara-sp this isnt an issue on the wolverine v3. it doesnt have hall effect triggers. just normal and a physical mouse button that slides in and out
@@IIlicit Wym? The wolverine V2 has issues with the the plastic from the triggers interfering with bumpers being able to be pressed. It was an issue with every controller
I have both versions of the wired Wolverine controllers for the Xbox and they have held up to years of PUBG. Original has slight drift but the V2 doesn't. I always map the L3 and R3 inputs to the bottom triggers so I don't have to push in the sticks.
Hey Techne. Are the sticks Hall effect? I only use hall effect now and once you do you will never go back. The precision is night and day. If this controller is hall effect its 100% a buy for me
Glad to see they went w/ Hall effect sticks. It's boggling that some companies are still not doing this as the norm. I hope Razer will consider making a Pay$tation version as I do like having the touch pad and gyro motion control support.
Hopefully they release a PS5 compatible version shortly. I hate the rear buttons on the older Razer pro controllers and like these better. Actually my favorite was their now discontinued Raiju Tournament Edition. That was perfect IMO.
been saying for years that controllers need to stray away from membrane buttons and spring loaded joy sticks. this controller looks amazing. will be buying one to see its potential
as an Xbox Controller expert, you should know that the robber on the Xbox elite has issue with the edges and clue that gives up over time. and maybe why razor didnt add it to the front
Hello and best regards from Germany. I have been using the controller with cable on a Windows 11 PC since yesterday and have a very good impression of this device. All the controls make a very high-quality impression and I personally think the controller is the best of its kind. Of course, I have only been able to test a limited number of other products myself.
it’s not mention on the video but you can two finger grip the Razer better than normal controllers. Maybe it doesn’t feel as good on a three finger grip.
The V3 reminds me a lot of the xbox 360 controllers with the more roundedness this has. Kinda like a "what if" scenario if they had a 360 elite controller made
They couldn't use magnets for the removeable thumb sticks because hall effect sticks use magnets for movement. But they definitely could have used the default stick connector like scuff does.
The one thing you didn't mention is that these controllers are using hall effects thumb sticks (huge win). As someone who has been using Razer (Wildcat and Wolverine V1.) their mouse click buttons have been my favorite feature on controllers and I've never looked back since (switched to Gamesir T4 Kaleid). While I'd love to own another Razer controller, especially now that they have a wireless version, I'm not willing to spend $200+ on controllers anymore especially since I switched to PC gaming more now. P.S Those M1&2 buttons are one of my missed features from other controller brands I've used (Elite v1, Scuff, Gamesir(current))
I have had the Wolverine V2 for a few years now & been serving me well. Stayed away from the Chroma version because I hated the extra button placement and felt I didn't need them, although I've come to realize I would totally use them if they were inset on the grips like this. Am a claw grip player and I very heavily use the M1 & M2 extra bumpers up top, curious to see how I change my hold with the extra 4 on the back. Hall effect sensors plus all of those extra customization options on the rear PLUS WIRELESS are the cherries on top, this looks like the perfect Xbox controller at least for me. Thanks for showing the software, none of the other reviews I've seen had done that and that really sealed the deal to see how much depth there is versus the basic V2 (that can't even adjust deadzone!) A little disappointed about the lack of that rubber grip coming all the way around that's going to feel like a downgrade but in all other facets seems like the controller is a proper upgrade to the excellent V2!
oh man, those back buttons look really good. i;ve been waiting for someone to do back buttons/paddles that are similar to the elite series2, bc those are the best IMO
Had Scuf Instinct Pro for years and play often and never had any problems. Until other controllers get the same mouse click triggers and have 4 paddles I won't switch. And dang, this one has it....I do love my scuf and hope it last for years to come
Just ordered the scuf a few days ago, only reason I got it because razer didn't make a wireless (or I didn't know at the time) and the elite controller always breaks in under a year. Would you say the scuf is still worth it though?
@Ironz._. I love my scuf and would definitely still recommend it. Not sure how much I would like the back buttons on this Razer but I really like the ones on my scuf. I use all 4 in every game I play from FPS games to Elden Ring. Another pro is the removable batteries. I know this is a con to some people but I can always swap rechargeable packs so I never have to use a wire to charge but even if I ran out of batteries I could play wired too.
If I'm not mistaken, Razer still doesn't include the option to invert the left and right sticks and you can't remap all the buttons, only the 6 M buttons, it's true that in many games you can customize that, but there are also many that don't allow you to customize too much, in that aspect the Xbox Elite is the best, it even allows you to customize the buttons with letters and keyboard combinations. I wouldn't buy it just for this reason
Looks like Razer fixed all the issues I had with the V2 Chroma. I do use the M1 and M2 with the V2 Chroma, I programmed them to be the mouse click trigger stop since the V2 didn't have that option on the trigger stops. Great review, keep it up Brotha.
Isnt the reason this is the 1st Razer wireless Xbox controller because Xbox had a specific license for wireless controllers until the start of 2024 and no 3rd parties were able to legally make any till now? So not realy weird at all, more of a constraint issue from Xbox themselves.
the fact that in 2024 razer still releases controllers that doesnt let you remap the triggers, face buttons or L3 and R3 is just wild especially for a $200 controller
the fact you didnt mention the sticks have hall effect and won't drift over time really explains why microsoft has gotten away with selling these crappy sticks for this long
Thank god its hall-effect. If I was looking for a new controller, I would almost definitely pick this one up. It took so many years for a well-known and good quality company to make a hall-effect stick controller because of all the politics and intentional planned obsolescence. It has been absolutely unacceptable what these OEM manufacturers have been doing to limit this innovation coming to market and intentionally not changing it so you buy more controllers. They have even gone far enough to not even allow you to easily fix the worn out and problematic joystick issues that the analog technology had. There were so many solutions and they never once implemented ANYTHING to keep you throwing out controllers and buying new ones. Thank you Razer.
cheaper brand to keep in mind for you "gullikit king kong pro 3 max controller" almost 50% less priced than the razer but same offering. except for exchangeable paddles and buttons.
I wonder if the reason for the ball and detention system on the razer thumb sticks is due to the Hall effect sensors. More magnets to hold the thumb stick might mess with those sensors.
One problem i'm noticing with the V3 pro is that the thumbstick mechanism wears out as its plastic. Your stick caps will wobble over time. I had mine for a week and have noticed this already. It's really annoying.
I wish you also have tested the D-Pad input precision. There are so many controllers nowadays which have horrendous D-Pad precision, resulting in misinputs (e.g. pressing left may sometimes also register pressing up).
This is what I want to know. Someone replied to be on Twitter saying they are like the highest tension on the Elite. I'm worried to buy it and not be happy. Once you play on max tension going back is awful
m$ is not gate keeping anything besides HZ on these things ...razar made a smart choice u can simply buy caps that go over your sticks for way cheaper than a kit from M$..real serios gamers are not going to swap out sticks ..u pick a size and that it all the others go to waste..we dont need the extra fluff from the elite that comes broken in the box half the time all players...serious gamers need to do is get the tournament version of this pad which is 100USD at a later date
Everyone commenting Flydigi fail to mention they have a bunch of QC issues . They advertised 1000hz but still has input lag when tested , and the back button layout is horrendous. Not the best but still doesn’t outperform a stock DualSense controller apart from Hall effect sticks and mechanical buttons.
As a competitive brawlhalla player, I really loved their wired controllers! Not shocked this product is doing well. Hard to wanna shell out $150ish dollars every time, but the only controller i saw with clicky mouse buttons on abxy. Hope this keeps those!
try using all 4 fingers, index on top trigger, middle finger on bottom trigger . frees up you r pinky and other finger to all sit on a button comfortably and more user friendly . just a suggestion
100%, the Turtle Beach Stealth Ultra is fucking garbage. It's a little cheaper and does come with a charging dock, but the controller itself is very cheaply made and has a lot of issues.
@StardustLegacyFighter what controller would you say is best for use on xbox, I have the razer v2 and the v1, victrix, elite series 2, thrustmaster and scuf
@@esportsmiyagiI'd say it has to be this one atm, since it can't be beat when it comes to specs and quality. The Victrix Pro BFG is a decent alternative, but it lacks clicky buttons and you need to buy hall effect modules separately.
The chroma pro v2 or whatever it was called had the same rear button layout as the og Wolverine. On the og the rear button layout was actually comfortable since the controller was smaller and didn’t have those wide haunches like on the chroma v2. Glad to see the v3 fixed that and add the features I wanted in a pro controller. Hall sticks, mech face and rear buttons, and a rear button layout that isn’t flaccid by design. Totally agree with you in the missed point of extending that rubberized grip to the front. Bummer. Will be adding this to the collection for sure. Thank you sir ❤
Looks really good but it’s a shame that there is no 1000hz wireless, only wired. There are 80 dollar controllers that can do 1000hz polling wirelessly. Cmon Razer.
I've been really graving for the razer wolverine to come out with a wireless model... but that price is just too steep. I guess I'll either wait for black friday sales or re-think if I actually care about wireless.
It’s getting harder and harder to recommend these controllers when brands like Flydigi are gaining popularity in the Western market. I recently bought a Direwolf 2 for just 30 bucks, and it has all the features you’d want in a controller, all while being so affordable.
@@kenzilbaptiste2519 Yes, chase. Flydigi, 8bitdo, Gulikit, Machinike, Beitong are inovative companies. And nowaday they create new trends which "big companies" follow. Antidrift sticks, mechanical buttons, controllers with display, microswitches under triggers, etc. - all new trends came from Chinease companies. So, if we talking about trash - Razer product quality is a trash, overpriced trash. Im deep in this topic and all testing by myself, so I know what Im talking about it.
Technically, big companies like Razer are Chinese companies lol. They charge more and use the same manufacturers in China. $200 and will still say Made in China on the back of it.
This controller will eventually go on sale as the rest do, however after owning the wired version it was very underrated because this seems literally like a pro version of the v2, I’m gonna save for this because my only gripe about the v2 was it being $150 and only being wired
Razor controller feels and looks amazing. The mouse click response and how lite it is gets a lot of cool points from me. Core elite 2/elite 2 with the trigger stops and paddles on doesn’t feel as great as the razor color. Elites also break down fast af. I ran thru elites that bumper buttons fail within a year. It doesn’t feel like this will be the same
Unless I missed it I didn’t hear you say anything about the tension in the joysticks. Any idea how they compare to other controllers? Are they really loose or nice and stiff? Can’t really find info on this anywhere
I just set mine up today. Major major unbelievable stick drift right out the box and these are supposed to be halls! My soul is broken man! 💔🤣 And I've had every other razor before this. Good luck everyone 🤙
@@ColtonGuindonnope, have the same exact issue, if you have the deadzone set to 0, you have stick drift, switching it to 1 seems to fix it but its pretty ridiculous that you have to do that in the first place, hopefully a firmware update can fix the issue, because the controller feels amazing otherwise
Willing to bet these last longer than any Elite controller.
I love the elite. But yeah. The elite sucks. Day 1 on 4 controllers i had SLIGHT but noticable delay and drift. I bought a gamesir for 30 bucks and its better. Xbox needs to step up ASAP.
If my current elite fails, may consider getting this
I had my elite for years before fail, but I see everyone saying things like this. Maybe I was just lucky lol
@@pandamonium0_042 it's mainly the bumpers that fail. They're incredibly weak. Depending what games you play they can fail quicker, for example Gears of War, RB being reload will see that bumper fail much sooner.
I remap games like those bumper controls to the upper back paddles to extend the integrity of those bumpers.
@@LouSassol69er yeah, but elite feels so fuckin solid
love razer controllers but that $200 tag is insane especially when you have gamesir controllers for under $50 that out work almost any xbox controller
These gamesir controllers have way less features.
@@anonapache technically they have more
@@anonapacheI have both and gamesir controllers definitely have more features
The price is comedic - for what it offers. Other brands are hammering it
The wolverine v3 tournament esition better than all gamesir controllers.
The "wired 1000 Hz yay!" comes from the fact that official Xbox controllers have been stuck at 125 Hz for some time now. Most other controllers are better than that, but still usually lower than 1000 Hz, especially wireless.
the wired 1000 hz comes from them adding 1000hz .. and the controller can be used on PC thats it
Wolverine has 250hz , a little better but prefer at least 500hz
@@nazarethproductions7095I've heard xbox is limited to 250hz polling rate
Wolverine v3 tournament is $99 with same specs/features just not wireless. Most definitely grabbing one ☝️ $199 for the V3 Pro isn’t worth it IMO but to each their own
100 extra for wireless is ridiculous but i'd need wireless. If it was like 30 more it would be fine.
When is it available?
I can agree to that. I bought the Wolverine Ultimate (the original) and it's what I'm rolling with for now. I'm a sucker for controllers so I might buy this,
I just ordered the tournament. My dog broke my right thumb stick on my gamesir g7. I fixed it with a staple, but it kinda janky, but it'll work until the new one comes.
@An_Enraged_Pig now the one in the video is still pre-order, but the tournament can be bought from razer rn
I feel like you will appreciate the Flydigi Vader 4 pro
Agreed, I was mind blown by the Flydigi Apex 4, never used the Vader, there isn't a comparison, and I've had lots of them including razer, turtle beach, elite, elite v2, various scuf's (ewe 100%), and a battle beaver (playstation style)..
I love my V4P. Literally the best pro controller out so far.
Love LOVE LOVE the Vader 4 Pro
@@DrockzoidsWhat Xbox converter do you use?
Agreed I got mine this week and I think its at least as good as and in some areas better than my Scuf Envision Pro. Certainly insane value and features for PC.
they literally cant use magnetic thumbsticks anymore. the V2 had it, but in case you forgot the modules are Hall Effect. the magnet on the thumbstick top would break the modules functionality below.
you see the same issue with controllers that have both hall effect sticks and triggers. whenever the trigger is fully depressed the thumbstick next to it starts to cut out or not function properly.
This is evacuation what I'm worried about. Especially for the wireless version
@@its.skamara-sp this isnt an issue on the wolverine v3. it doesnt have hall effect triggers. just normal and a physical mouse button that slides in and out
@@IIlicit hmm is the original issue with the triggers and bumpers messing with eachother fixed?
@@its.skamara-sp the wolverine never had that issue
@@IIlicit Wym? The wolverine V2 has issues with the the plastic from the triggers interfering with bumpers being able to be pressed. It was an issue with every controller
I have both versions of the wired Wolverine controllers for the Xbox and they have held up to years of PUBG. Original has slight drift but the V2 doesn't. I always map the L3 and R3 inputs to the bottom triggers so I don't have to push in the sticks.
The v2 was really good, I’m excited for this 1 even tho it’s expensive. I’m gonna be selling some old gear to get this
Hey Techne. Are the sticks Hall effect? I only use hall effect now and once you do you will never go back. The precision is night and day. If this controller is hall effect its 100% a buy for me
They are thankfully
Waiting for the tournament edition, wired version for $100 will all the same features
Glad to see they went w/ Hall effect sticks. It's boggling that some companies are still not doing this as the norm. I hope Razer will consider making a Pay$tation version as I do like having the touch pad and gyro motion control support.
the Wolverine Ultimate is still one of my fav controller, I might upgrade once it breaks but it's still going strong after 5 years 😂
Hopefully they release a PS5 compatible version shortly. I hate the rear buttons on the older Razer pro controllers and like these better. Actually my favorite was their now discontinued Raiju Tournament Edition. That was perfect IMO.
It’s called the v2 pro
been saying for years that controllers need to stray away from membrane buttons and spring loaded joy sticks. this controller looks amazing. will be buying one to see its potential
as an Xbox Controller expert, you should know that the robber on the Xbox elite has issue with the edges and clue that gives up over time. and maybe why razor didnt add it to the front
Hello and best regards from Germany. I have been using the controller with cable on a Windows 11 PC since yesterday and have a very good impression of this device. All the controls make a very high-quality impression and I personally think the controller is the best of its kind. Of course, I have only been able to test a limited number of other products myself.
Big issue is I only use two paddles so I fear the two other paddles would get in my way.
The fact that you view more buttons as an issue already shows you're a noob..
more at a later date
@@kenzilbaptiste2519 I view it as an issue if they're going to get in the way when I'm playing. Who pissed in your Wheaties?
@@kenzilbaptiste2519Your definitely 5 if your calling people a “noob” 😂
it’s not mention on the video but you can two finger grip the Razer better than normal controllers. Maybe it doesn’t feel as good on a three finger grip.
You’re one of the best tech reviewers, very thorough! And thank you for sound test
The V3 reminds me a lot of the xbox 360 controllers with the more roundedness this has. Kinda like a "what if" scenario if they had a 360 elite controller made
They couldn't use magnets for the removeable thumb sticks because hall effect sticks use magnets for movement. But they definitely could have used the default stick connector like scuff does.
what i love about this is that Razer included already the dongle the xbox ones have them separate
How are the haptics? Are they tight, similar to an iPhone, or loose more similar to the standard Xbox controller?
What's the polling rate for PC? Edit: its 1000 using the cable
xbox and PC wireless its 250Hz
@@zensaiy And what about using the cable on Xbox?
@@RealTroyE23 no difference, 1000Hz is only supported on PC
The one thing you didn't mention is that these controllers are using hall effects thumb sticks (huge win). As someone who has been using Razer (Wildcat and Wolverine V1.) their mouse click buttons have been my favorite feature on controllers and I've never looked back since (switched to Gamesir T4 Kaleid). While I'd love to own another Razer controller, especially now that they have a wireless version, I'm not willing to spend $200+ on controllers anymore especially since I switched to PC gaming more now.
P.S Those M1&2 buttons are one of my missed features from other controller brands I've used (Elite v1, Scuff, Gamesir(current))
I have had the Wolverine V2 for a few years now & been serving me well. Stayed away from the Chroma version because I hated the extra button placement and felt I didn't need them, although I've come to realize I would totally use them if they were inset on the grips like this. Am a claw grip player and I very heavily use the M1 & M2 extra bumpers up top, curious to see how I change my hold with the extra 4 on the back. Hall effect sensors plus all of those extra customization options on the rear PLUS WIRELESS are the cherries on top, this looks like the perfect Xbox controller at least for me. Thanks for showing the software, none of the other reviews I've seen had done that and that really sealed the deal to see how much depth there is versus the basic V2 (that can't even adjust deadzone!) A little disappointed about the lack of that rubber grip coming all the way around that's going to feel like a downgrade but in all other facets seems like the controller is a proper upgrade to the excellent V2!
oh man, those back buttons look really good. i;ve been waiting for someone to do back buttons/paddles that are similar to the elite series2, bc those are the best IMO
Had Scuf Instinct Pro for years and play often and never had any problems. Until other controllers get the same mouse click triggers and have 4 paddles I won't switch.
And dang, this one has it....I do love my scuf and hope it last for years to come
Just ordered the scuf a few days ago, only reason I got it because razer didn't make a wireless (or I didn't know at the time) and the elite controller always breaks in under a year. Would you say the scuf is still worth it though?
@Ironz._. I love my scuf and would definitely still recommend it. Not sure how much I would like the back buttons on this Razer but I really like the ones on my scuf. I use all 4 in every game I play from FPS games to Elden Ring.
Another pro is the removable batteries. I know this is a con to some people but I can always swap rechargeable packs so I never have to use a wire to charge but even if I ran out of batteries I could play wired too.
@daltonburroughs3811 thankyou for the response and info!
I’ve gone through three of them. It will not last.
If I'm not mistaken, Razer still doesn't include the option to invert the left and right sticks and you can't remap all the buttons, only the 6 M buttons, it's true that in many games you can customize that, but there are also many that don't allow you to customize too much, in that aspect the Xbox Elite is the best, it even allows you to customize the buttons with letters and keyboard combinations. I wouldn't buy it just for this reason
You have to try the king kong v3 max its perfect at 80$
Vader 4 pro
Looks like Razer fixed all the issues I had with the V2 Chroma. I do use the M1 and M2 with the V2 Chroma, I programmed them to be the mouse click trigger stop since the V2 didn't have that option on the trigger stops.
Great review, keep it up Brotha.
how?
Isnt the reason this is the 1st Razer wireless Xbox controller because Xbox had a specific license for wireless controllers until the start of 2024 and no 3rd parties were able to legally make any till now? So not realy weird at all, more of a constraint issue from Xbox themselves.
the fact that in 2024 razer still releases controllers that doesnt let you remap the triggers, face buttons or L3 and R3 is just wild especially for a $200 controller
What do you mean?
Can't you remap in the razer app?
@@iBlueClovr nope only the extra buttons can he remapped
@@xKillZone99 on the v3 also?
@@iBlueClovr from the videos I've seen yeah
the fact you didnt mention the sticks have hall effect and won't drift over time really explains why microsoft has gotten away with selling these crappy sticks for this long
By far the best control for the money. Those extra two buttons on the top are really a game changer.c
The D pad is also one of the best I've every used. He glosses over it and makes it sound like a negative.
Thank god its hall-effect. If I was looking for a new controller, I would almost definitely pick this one up. It took so many years for a well-known and good quality company to make a hall-effect stick controller because of all the politics and intentional planned obsolescence. It has been absolutely unacceptable what these OEM manufacturers have been doing to limit this innovation coming to market and intentionally not changing it so you buy more controllers. They have even gone far enough to not even allow you to easily fix the worn out and problematic joystick issues that the analog technology had. There were so many solutions and they never once implemented ANYTHING to keep you throwing out controllers and buying new ones.
Thank you Razer.
cheaper brand to keep in mind for you "gullikit king kong pro 3 max controller" almost 50% less priced than the razer but same offering. except for exchangeable paddles and buttons.
Is the King Kong wireless for Xbox?
@@MadCheese1337 yes gulikit and flydigi is the only controller i will buy it's cheaper but better than this controller.
@@blackthorne2001Out of convenience and as a console player this controller is way more convenient than any Chinese manufacturer
@@Teilzeit02 well yeah but as a PC player this is better (Gulikit,Flydigi) than any consoles controller way cheaper but way better.
The thumbsticks on the tournament edition are not removable. I just sent it back due to that reason. I like the raised thumbstick on the right.
Does it use hall sticks?
Yes
how does this compare to the vader 4 pro. i would love to see the comparison as a pc player
My only negative thing is you can't change profiles on the controller. You have to go to the app.
I love using 2 the tall sticks. I wonder if they will sell additional sticks.
I use the M1 M2 to remap the front bumpers. It is just easier to trigger than the front bumpers.
I wonder if the reason for the ball and detention system on the razer thumb sticks is due to the Hall effect sensors. More magnets to hold the thumb stick might mess with those sensors.
This one or Tournament edition?
Scooping the Tourney edition of this one, 99 bucks for everything except the wireless ability.
One problem i'm noticing with the V3 pro is that the thumbstick mechanism wears out as its plastic. Your stick caps will wobble over time. I had mine for a week and have noticed this already. It's really annoying.
I wish you also have tested the D-Pad input precision. There are so many controllers nowadays which have horrendous D-Pad precision, resulting in misinputs (e.g. pressing left may sometimes also register pressing up).
Any chance the sticks have tighter tension than the stock Xbox controller, or are they as ‘loose’?
This is what I want to know. Someone replied to be on Twitter saying they are like the highest tension on the Elite. I'm worried to buy it and not be happy. Once you play on max tension going back is awful
Vader 4 Pro is a goated controller for
Microsoft should take notes from this controller for the Xbox Elite 3 when it comes out.
m$ is not gate keeping anything besides HZ on these things ...razar made a smart choice u can simply buy caps that go over your sticks for way cheaper than a kit from M$..real serios gamers are not going to swap out sticks ..u pick a size and that it all the others go to waste..we dont need the extra fluff from the elite that comes broken in the box half the time
all players...serious gamers need to do is get the tournament version of this pad which is 100USD at a later date
Crazy how behind they are compared to flydigi and gulikit.
Everyone commenting Flydigi fail to mention they have a bunch of QC issues . They advertised 1000hz but still has input lag when tested , and the back button layout is horrendous. Not the best but still doesn’t outperform a stock DualSense controller apart from Hall effect sticks and mechanical buttons.
As a competitive brawlhalla player, I really loved their wired controllers! Not shocked this product is doing well. Hard to wanna shell out $150ish dollars every time, but the only controller i saw with clicky mouse buttons on abxy. Hope this keeps those!
so you can still only remap the back buttons and the extra top bumpers but not face buttons or analogs i see
Definitely going to be picking one of these up and the new Nacon 6 button as well
Love the controller reviews. Honestly that $100 one might be worth picking up once it comes out
they fixed the back buttons thank gooooood!!!!! the only thing that held me back from getting the controller
try using all 4 fingers, index on top trigger, middle finger on bottom trigger . frees up you r pinky and other finger to all sit on a button comfortably and more user friendly . just a suggestion
Would you suggest this over the turtle beach controller, and what controller would you say is best for Xbox?
100%, the Turtle Beach Stealth Ultra is fucking garbage.
It's a little cheaper and does come with a charging dock, but the controller itself is very cheaply made and has a lot of issues.
@StardustLegacyFighter what controller would you say is best for use on xbox, I have the razer v2 and the v1, victrix, elite series 2, thrustmaster and scuf
@@esportsmiyagiI'd say it has to be this one atm, since it can't be beat when it comes to specs and quality.
The Victrix Pro BFG is a decent alternative, but it lacks clicky buttons and you need to buy hall effect modules separately.
I’ll wait to get a used one for cheap. I still have some Wolverine Ultimates stocked up. Best controller ever!
The chroma pro v2 or whatever it was called had the same rear button layout as the og Wolverine. On the og the rear button layout was actually comfortable since the controller was smaller and didn’t have those wide haunches like on the chroma v2. Glad to see the v3 fixed that and add the features I wanted in a pro controller. Hall sticks, mech face and rear buttons, and a rear button layout that isn’t flaccid by design. Totally agree with you in the missed point of extending that rubberized grip to the front. Bummer. Will be adding this to the collection for sure. Thank you sir ❤
How's the D-Pad?
I enjoy platformers and fighting games.
Amazing
Looks really good but it’s a shame that there is no 1000hz wireless, only wired. There are 80 dollar controllers that can do 1000hz polling wirelessly. Cmon Razer.
Does it still have the drifting issue?
This or the scuf instinct pro?
Can you overclock it?
I've been really graving for the razer wolverine to come out with a wireless model... but that price is just too steep. I guess I'll either wait for black friday sales or re-think if I actually care about wireless.
no charging port?
It’s getting harder and harder to recommend these controllers when brands like Flydigi are gaining popularity in the Western market. I recently bought a Direwolf 2 for just 30 bucks, and it has all the features you’d want in a controller, all while being so affordable.
I smell broke
Do the triggers have rumble?
Any peripheral that requires a dongle, you're asking for a headache
Can you map keyboard buttons to the controller?
I lke how big companies trying to chase Chinease companies. But with much higher price.
chase ? you acting like they invented pro controllers and the big companies and following ...
also outside of flydigi everything else is trash
@@kenzilbaptiste2519 Yes, chase. Flydigi, 8bitdo, Gulikit, Machinike, Beitong are inovative companies. And nowaday they create new trends which "big companies" follow. Antidrift sticks, mechanical buttons, controllers with display, microswitches under triggers, etc. - all new trends came from Chinease companies. So, if we talking about trash - Razer product quality is a trash, overpriced trash. Im deep in this topic and all testing by myself, so I know what Im talking about it.
Technically, big companies like Razer are Chinese companies lol. They charge more and use the same manufacturers in China. $200 and will still say Made in China on the back of it.
$199 price tag is a bit much. At least they are using HE sticks.
Flydigi Apex 4! Beat it!
@@Psychotoxic86 that's $159. Not any better.
€ 239,- here
@@the12gaugeshottyVader 4 pro is better than the Apex 4 and is only around 80 bucks.
This controller will eventually go on sale as the rest do, however after owning the wired version it was very underrated because this seems literally like a pro version of the v2, I’m gonna save for this because my only gripe about the v2 was it being $150 and only being wired
What about battery life ? How much time u get from a single charge ?
20 hours.
@@garethg8226 tnx
1000 polling rate only works for PC?
Razor controller feels and looks amazing. The mouse click response and how lite it is gets a lot of cool points from me. Core elite 2/elite 2 with the trigger stops and paddles on doesn’t feel as great as the razor color. Elites also break down fast af. I ran thru elites that bumper buttons fail within a year. It doesn’t feel like this will be the same
Do you think the Wolverine V2 Pro (The PS5 version.) will get the same treatment?
on steam you can't change the keys
Way better than any Xbox controller. The reason is simple: NO drift.
I wanna buy one
Unless I missed it I didn’t hear you say anything about the tension in the joysticks. Any idea how they compare to other controllers? Are they really loose or nice and stiff? Can’t really find info on this anywhere
Do the joysticks feel loose, and do you know the brand of hall effect joysticks used?
I really want to get the wired version. I think it’s only $99.
Hello, thank you for the video. Is the dpad good for fighting in your opinion ?
Is this the first third party wireless xbox controller?
I don't think so. Turtle Beach Stealth Ultra is a supported third party controller.
Charge 200 and dont even give customer full grip tape. Not surprised knowing razer lmao
Does this controller have a mute button on it?
Looks pretty good. But you can get pretty much the same thing for $40-50 with the gamesir controller.
I just set mine up today. Major major unbelievable stick drift right out the box and these are supposed to be halls! My soul is broken man! 💔🤣 And I've had every other razor before this. Good luck everyone 🤙
Bullshit.
@@ColtonGuindonnope, have the same exact issue, if you have the deadzone set to 0, you have stick drift, switching it to 1 seems to fix it but its pretty ridiculous that you have to do that in the first place, hopefully a firmware update can fix the issue, because the controller feels amazing otherwise
@@carlosdelgado8617They just released an update.
You gotta try out the Flydigi Vader 4 Pro
the price is crazy.
Do these have the same feedback through RT and LT as the standard series S/X controller?
Yo you did not mention battery life techne or if you did it was very briefly covered in a completely missed it
But does it vibrates ??
Battery life??
Good controller, but it doesn't come close to what Flydigi offers, especially at this price.
Tournament Edition review when? I will get it for £99 wired, dont need wireless for £199. If they are the same thing no quality compromise for price.
Thank GOD they got rid of the old back button layout. That shit was atrocious
Flydigi spoiled me.... Now I expect that quality and price from every controller manufacturer.
can you customize the paddles into a keyboard key?