Is This The Glock Killer?? Sig P365 X Macro PART 1
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 1 มิ.ย. 2024
- Sig is hot on Glock's tale and it's GREAT for the industry! There is a lot of innovation in the firearm industry due to the steep competition amongst all the firearms manufacturers. Stay tuned for the next video where I shoot both and compare them.
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Contents of Video:
0:00 - Intro
0:29 - P365 Comparison
0:50 - Grip Angle
5:30 - Back Strap
11:39 - Trigger
17:22 - Capacity
18:14 - Optic Ready Slide
29:57 - Compensator
32:40 - Conclusion - แนวปฏิบัติและการใช้ชีวิต
Sig -
17 rounds
Optics ready
Night sights
Integrated comp
Glock-
10rd (15 if you spend money on after market mags)
No optics cut
Cheap Plastic sights
Not sure what we are comparing.
And 15 round mags that have had many documented failures
@@Rambo17401 And my local gun store wants 850 bucks for the Sig. Got my 43x at Bass Pro for 450.
Guns
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Glock 43x ($450)
Night Sights $75
Optics Cut $200
One Shield Arms 15rd mag $42
Metal Mag catch (for shield arms) $29
Compensator $300
Total $1,026
@Omar Slim I havent had any issues with mine though I am aware some people were having some problems.
I’ll preface by saying I’ve been a Glock fan for years and own several models along with other brands as well. With all due respect, the notion that Sig copied Glock is almost laughable. Sig changed the game when they released the P365 and have continued to offer new variants since, with modern features that have set industry standards and market trends. Glock has always been slow to change and offer innovation. If anyone should be looking to copy another brand, I’d say Glock would be wise to start copying Sig. Sig clearly isn’t here to take part, they’re here to take over and don’t seem to be slowing down one bit.
Sig Sauer didn't "copy" GLOCK with their all metal frame Classic P-Series pistols but "SIG NH USA" most certainly did in every way from the striker fired design to the polymer frame. To say anything is a "GLOCK Killer" is pretty obtuse and comical. They all come and they all go eventually. So far nobody has been able to replicate what makes a GLOCK great yet! IMO, Sig should go back to Sig Sauer and start making their classic legacy pistols full production instead of limited runs once again. It's what put them on the map P-220, P-226/Mk25, P-228/M11A1, P-229 etc etc etc. This polymer fad will pass and then everybody will be scrambling for the next big "GLOCK Killer" that never happens.
"GLOCK Killers" like Springfield Armory XD/XDm, S&W M&P and all variants etc etc. They didn't "kill" anything....in fact you can't hardily give them away these days.
@@JohnDoeEagle1 Let me say again that I’m a Glock fan and they make my favorite pistols. There are many guns now days that compete with or surpass Glock in terms of reliability, accuracy, ergonomics and standard modern features, to the point where saying Glock is the best at anything is a subjective opinion. You said “Glock killer,” not me. I’m simply making the point that Sig didn’t copy Glock in this case by lowering the bore axis, a goal for any handgun design, and that if Glock wants to maintain their dominance, they’d be wise to catch up to what other manufacturers, Sig especially, are offering as standard features for the same or less money. Glock is well known for being slow to change and it’s only a matter of time before they’re overshadowed by companies that are striving to push innovation. I’ll support my assertion by pointing out the P320 government contract, civilian sales numbers of guns like the 320 and 365 and the fact that Sig is constantly offering new and fresh variants of these guns.
@@JohnDoeEagle1 actually H&K made the first polymer striker fired pistol in 1970 "vp70" and several after that glock didn't even start for 9 more years, if I were to entertain your argument I'd say that sig copied the styer m9 pistols not the "block"
@@JohnDoeEagle1 no one has been able to replicate what makes Glock so great? No one is replicating Glock, they have all surpassed Glock. Most of the major pistol manufacturers produce pistols with better ergos better triggers and better magazine releases. Walther, Sig, S&W, HK, Steyr, CZ all superior to what Glock offers.
Glock makes an excellent pistol the problem is they never evolved.
I've never been a glock guy. But I have to tell you having a glock channel give another brand's model a good review is very commendable.
I have both P365X Macro and G43X MOS, both have red dots shoot great but I prefer the Macros feel over the G43X
They are better guns, and lenny canr sell more shit. That is what he hates anout Sig. Buy the way Sig is spying on his videos.
Can u put extended mags and custom both of them?
Honestly Glock has been left behind with the x-macro. Sig listened to what people want: Full dust cover w/ picatinny, a flat face trigger, slim frame full size grip, optics ready for the holosun k footprint, and *17+1* capacity. I dont think Glock will have an answer for this for another 5 years.
@@jlinka79 Hard to believe your 365 went back 5 times. If that’s true than it’s your fault for holding on to it, and/or not demanding a replacement.
@@jlinka79 So what's Glocks answer to the P365 X-macro? You didn't answer the question.... Also dont believe you had to send back "your 365" 5 times (why would you keep a gun that keeps breaking?) pretty sus of a comment
@@shadezactual2657 Good point.
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@@esnos19 i think you buttdailed
People have been complaining for years that Glock needed to do something about magazine capacity, but sadly Sig beat Glock to it.
Sadly? SIG has always been second to none. Why do you think the US Navy Seals preferred the p226 to the 92fs. The bean counters made the change to Glock. The same as my Dept went from S&W to them. They are cheap for Law Enforcement Departments to buy compared to SIG or HnK or S&W.
@@DS..69 I like Sig, I’ve just always been a Glock fanboy of sorts. I own a 365XL and a 365X Macro, phenomenal guns. I also have a G17, G19, and a G48, which I dearly love. Glock could’ve done a better job with magazine capacity on their slim lines though for sure.
@@chrisharris9710 yeah. I love my 48. Don’t use my Sigs much for actual carry. Like the PC shield plus and the 48 way more to carry.
@@hombredeflorida4430 not even in the same league.
If shield arms can get the failure to feed issues lined out with the S15 mags Glock 43x will be dope. Be nice if glock would make proprietary metal mags for the 43x/48
I’ve ran glocks my entire adult life. Basically every generation of 19 and 23’s.
Tried a macro out at the local ffl/range and left with a new one. It’s a fantastic little weapon. Great ergonomics, flat shooter, with a good holster it tucks away even under a t shirt and it holds 17 rounds. Sig knocked it out of the park with the macro.
Holsters and magazines are a little challenging to obtain but that’s every new platform. It’ll get better.
@Mtown Bound sounds like a hater
@@mtownboundlol you must be new to guns because it wasnt even this model that went off clown. But nice try
Harry's....
Folks, don't go to a "new and best" gun. I have a G17, bought in 1987, used. Tweaked it until I got it down to about a 11/2 pound trigger and shot it in a lot of competitions. Never let me down. The slide doesn't lock open any more but it never, never failed. I estimate that I fired about 10-15 thousand shots. Still perfect. Buy a reasonable gun, then practice until your finger bleeds. Go to a range and test the 2-3 guns you're interested in. PRACTICE, PRACTICE, PRACTICE.
They run like Toyotas!!!!!
The P365X Macro is a lot better.
Just compare the triggers.
No special glock rail.
Beaver tail larger, no glock bite
Metal sights. Night sites
Take down lever is an "accelator"
Holds 17 rounds
I own both
Yea, that made me laugh when he claimed Sig is copying.
@@masterofreality230 same lol
@@masterofreality230 yea. Sig must have watched his videos and designed based off low bore axis like Glock. Not like the 365 is the same slide height.
Why do you think he made that ridiculous comment? Is he that in love with Glock to never bash them? Why can’t he just admit Glock isn’t some kind of god?
@@JSANCHE5 His job
I’ve been a Glock fanboy for over 20 years. My G17 and G26 are my SHTF “phased plasma rifles” go-to pistols…. Until I got a Sig P356 XL. Sorry, but Glock needs to seriously step up they game, because Sig and the 365 family are coming from their crown. Sig’s basic 365 come with more standard features, that would cost you hundreds of dollars in accessories to equip a Glock.
Sig is becoming my go-to, sorry Glock.
BdogFinal14 The very reason Lenny has made it so big with Glock is the first thing people do when they get one is replace the frame, slide, barrel, trigger and guide rod. Glock is very well known for the worst grip angel on any handgun. The point of aim is horrible. I have a number of Glocks and they are just OK out of 30+ handguns I have. The P 80s at least changed the grip angel to what it should be. IMO
@Clay Pylant 365 XL Macro…?
@@alant5757 you can put an xl slide and barrel on the x macro grip module you can also use the 17 rd mags on an xl. I also like how he said sig copied what glock did with the 43 and 43 x with the x macro, but the sig xl and x both existed prior to this. I think the new sog mags and grip module will be more popular to sig shooters in the long run
@Clay Pylant That's why I went with the 365 XL. I don't care the maker of a gun. I refuse to have one with my little finger hanging off the end of the grip. I am not going to buy a mag to make it fit my hand. For some the grip my be to narrow for their liking. I can't deal with a short grip.
Sit already took the crown. It was a coup d’etat.
I'm a diehard Glock fan but I've been really impressed by what Sig's been doing these last few years. On the innovation front, they're miles ahead of Glock. The 43X can literally fit 15 rounds already, they just don't sell a mag without a thick polymer wall for some bizarre reason, so it's stuck as a single stack unless you buy aftermarket mags. As much as I like Glock, it's time they look at other brands and start doing a little "copying" themselves.
I have to admin, as a die hard Glock fan, Im REALLY diggin the 365 macro. 17 ROUNDS?!?! and optic ready?? Sheesh! Its hard to make a case for Glock at this point.
@@Yaniv.C how about the atrocious build quality and dogshit safety mechanisms
@@TuiziCS Or their rust issues. Just sold my macro and got the 43x MOS because my 2 month old Marco was rusting. Unacceptable for the price
@@Yaniv.C An $850 gun that rusts, I’ll take a gun for half the price that doesn’t.
@@JackFirlowif you shower with your edc it’s gonna rust eventually. 🤡
Sig changed the game with the introduction of the p365. They made a lot of people move from a g19 down to a fully compact gun.
Then why is the Glock 19 still one of the top 5 selling handguns still? Hmmm? Lol
@@tonyrogo227 you act as if that makes his statement incorrect. both yours and his statements are true.
@@williamgray9692 Of course everyone is entitled to their own opinion Bill.
I'm deeply sorry if mine offends you..lol
@@tonyrogo227lmao offended? How did he get offended he just said facts. You are ignorant bro get some common sense
I'm glad to see Lenny still doing videos and keepin on. In an ever changing world and society, it's good to see good video presenters from the past doing QUALITY videos. Well done Lenny, keep up the great work. Thanks!
The sig has a magazine capacity of 17 vs the glock 43x of 10 in factory mags. 7 more rounds in the factory mags is a definite plus
Thank for giving your opinions. I enjoy hearing you pros and cons. I got my 1st Glock last year. It took me 20 years to get one. I wasn’t a fan, a 3rd gen 19 slide bite me good (1911, LC9, shield shooter). The gen 5 back strap is a game changer for me
Again, even with you “Glock-glasses” on, you explain the pros and cons so well
Really like that you went the extra mile on some of the tech aspects. There seems as no other videos showed the removal and adding of the back straps.
Some mentioned backstraps but never show a replacement of straps with gunsmithing tools .
Thank you for going the extra mile Lenny . I have watched several of your videos and enjoy the presentation . I also purchased a battle belt for duty and used your video to make the proper adjustments .
Just wanted to say thank you and keep making videos please .
I was thinking about getting the G43x mos but he just sold me on the Sig. BIG TIME!👍
I have viewed several reviews on the 365 X Macro but this is the most thorough. Great job Lenny. Looking forward to the range video. Appreciate the time you put into making the video and highlighting the features.
Most thorough? More like most bias lol
Nice that you put both of these units head to head. I love both of them for different reasons. I have a 365X SAS on my motorcycle mounted in the saddlebagbag. Easy to grab and pocket with a sticky holster and take anywhere while we are out riding. My EDC is the 43X MOS with a red dot on it.
They both work well and i honestly like the way the Sig shoots a little better.
This, is the best review. Hitting all the points I want to hear. I haven’t heard anyone else go in this much detail. No excess yapping. Just speaking with purpose. Made it nice to watch. No long pauses and slow talk 😂
Years ago I was in sales for a moment. I learned a lot during that time that I try to keep in mind. Though Lennie is a solid Glock-guy (as am I), he is giving SIG kudos for their product. One of the things we should keep in mind is to never insult the intelligence, or choices of the customer. Just because you are selling Chevys, it's not a good idea to knock Toyotas. Thanks for a great video and for keeping an open mind regarding the competition. Ultra-Mega-MAGA
Just bought a 43X and saw it today, a Sig Macro was in store also, felt awesome, 17 rounds, amazing design. I’m very impressed with what Sig is doing personally.
Why did you end up going with the 43x? Im between the 2
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To be honest, the 43X was already purchased, and I was there to pick it up when a Macro was in the store as a new arrival, the guys behind the counter was trying to convince me to send back the 43X and buy the Macro, put it in my hand and it felt great, the thing is it was $800+ and I didn’t want to spend that kind of money in which I had got a great deal on the Glock anyway and have a few Glocks and was pretty confident in it.
I believe in the buy once cry once element, buy exactly what you want if that’s your only option, but if you have intentions on having other options buy what’s convenient for you at the time, until you can grab the other.
@@wailers1999 I am with you Brother, the SIG products are a bit pricey, and manufacturers are prudent to upcharge for quality. Now that it is November of 2023, I am happy to report that the SIG Macro prices are coming down to a more reasonable price point. As they introduce new/upgraded offerings, the slightly older ones will lose the super-shine.
I recently found your channel and love your videos. Your in depth videos are so very informative.
Thank you so much from this newbie!
I have both and simply put, I love both. They are both great CCW weapons. Great video!
Great in depth review on both handguns and nice to see that you are reviewing other brands. I own the 365 Spectre with the Holosun 507 series.
I tried both and you can't go wrong with either, we're conparing titans here. Love the honesty of the host and well I picked up the g43x at the end my hand liked it best but to be honest I wanted both!
New subscriber here! Wanted to let you know I enjoyed watching, listening & learning from your very informative presentation.
Thanks for taking the time and effort to make videos available to us out here who may need to acquire the kind of knowledge you provide without having to invest an inordinate about of time and/or money in order to sort things out in a timely fashion.
I'm confused. SIG has developed a modular system where different slides, grips, and features can be interchanged to meet the individual's needs. Putting a longer or shorter grip on the SIG P365 .380 or the P365/P365X/P365XL 9mm, etc. seems more like "tailoring" rather than "copying." There is no national one size hand standard.
Some folks are happy with 5 rounds, others want 17+ rounds. We're all different.
Cheers
I know exactly what you mean. I own a decent number of handguns of varying sizes, calibers and capacities. I bought this Macro recently and it's okay. I mainly bought it for the Holosun green dot sight since the slide is ready for it to be mounted. My son loves these sights but I'm having trouble acclimating to them. Raising the gun doesn't always put the dot in view and sometimes I seem to lose the dot after a few recoils and have to reorient it. Strangely I don't notice doing this with iron sights if I do it at all, and I tend to be in the 8 and 9 circles even at 25 yards. In spite of all this, my go to handgun is the S&W 686P, with the 7" barrel. What I love about that revolver is that even with 7 rounds, I got several speed loaders and have myself reloading very quickly. Nowhere as fast as with magazines obviously, but still pretty effectively, I think. Best part is distance. Close range it's too easy to destroy the center of any target obviously. Take that target all the way out 50, 60 yards and I'm still nailing center mass for the most part. Haven't been able to set up a target past that yet, but I think it works as the perfect gun for close up, all the way out to where a rifle takes over. Amazing firearm for it's type and age.
confused? then stay confused. lol
Appreciate you stepping out of the Glock box. I was a fan boy for years (still am) but sig s onto something and I have a few now and actually prefer them for concealed carry
Lenny, I have to say: you have outstanding videos!! Seriously, you have always put out extremely informative and highly detailed content. While I am not a 'Glock guy' per se', I do--very much--enjoy watching your material.
Great video and informative review of both the Sig and the Glock. Thank you!
Great review and comparison. Thank you so much for sharing this with us all. Much appreciated.
I like how Lenny tries to be as fair as possible, but sometimes says he has his Glock glasses on lol.
Glock can you please bring back c models bring back 357 sig to Gen 5 in slimline and double stack ;) remove those fs from all new models make a 5.7 Glock it’s time to innovate again !
That’s all sig is doing just spicing up there line up every 11 months or less to give the new or common shooter something to gravitate towards
As usual, great review and great explanation between these two pistols, Lenny!
Lenny, You are the man! Your videos are always very informative, with a lot of great insight. Thank you for your content. I wish yall had a store in Houston.
Great review! Carried a Glock many years on the street but I'm sold on the Sig P365 for a concealed carry weapon. Its just an awesome weapon all the way around!
17+1 for the sig vs 10+1 for the 43x is a big deal! I also wish glock did integral compensators! But good on you for mentioning the pros and cons of both!
I have loved Glock for a long time. I carried my g19 for the last 7 years. I just picked up the X Macro a month ago and have about 600 rounds through it and love it. I can shoot blocks well but the grip angle and girth of it never felt great in my smaller hands. The X with the largest back strap feels amazing.
100% and Sig is a modular design so what he's saying makes no sense. Glock finally made a cut slide option and they charge so much more for it. Sigs sights are bad ass too, trigger, match barrel I mean Sig is literally better then the Block in ever aspect and every part! Think how much Glock would charge for all u get with the X Macro!? Cut slide, night sights, metal mags, cut slide, flat face trigger, match barrel they would charge $1700!!
I have a 43X and a 48 but carry my P365xl. The best part about about the sig is the modularity. I'm going to wait on the Wilson Combat X Macro grip module
Innovation drives competition. Time for glock to upgrade its magazine game and size game.
And grip angle, and everything else about that outdated brick
Glock has been resting on it's laurels and dragging it's heels for DECADES, relying on military contracts and "pseudo-military" tactical wannabes. EVery time they change a SCREW they issue a new "generation".....and STILL ship with PLATIC SIGHTS AND MAGS....not hating on them as they'll never see a dime of MY money...just an honest observance
Both guns are really nice. I wish Glock had a double stack 9 as small as the 365. The 10+1 is why the p365 is my EDC. Glock is my choice for full size carry. G22
I love my Gen5 G22 .40 cal but it's tough to conceal..
I may need a Gen5 G27 next or try a G43X MOS
I also picked up the Sig 365XL Spectre Comp recently..
Beautiful firearm from Sig's Custom Works Division..
The Spectre includes a barrel and trigger shoe coated with gold titanium nitride that has held up so far..The titanium nitride coating doesn't seem to affect my performance so far..
The laser stippling looks amazing and helps with muzzle flip..The slide serrations and integrated compensator kick ass and set this apart from the other models...
Throw in Sig's upgrade to the Optics and you are ready to roll..
*I picked up the Romeo Zero to try but I'm enjoying the sights as is and haven't mounted the red dot yet*
Not to be morbid, but how old is Gaston Glock? It will be interesting to see where the company goes once he goes.
@@fordhouse8b Since he just turned 97, it's safe to say that nothing will change when he goes.
@@gordo965 Why would you say that? Her might be 97, but as far as I have read, he still has the ultimate say in approving what direction product design takes. Once his particular points of view are not longer guiding the company, it is anybody’s guess where the company will go, and what kind of designs will be encouraged and approved.
I appreciate that your comparison appeared to be fair and unbiased!
Hey Lenny McGill, good to see that you’re making videos again, haven’t seen one for a while, I have the Sigg P3 65 XL which I bought about four years ago, not really thinking about buying the new mackerel ( lol) macro , up to a little more than two maybe I don’t even think it’s been three years ago, I had never considered a glock, I was kind of one of those anti-Glock guys, of course in the past two years I’ve come to love them, and I now own,
10 glocks two 26s , A Glock 20 and a Glock 21, a Glock 22, and two Glock 17’s, and two Glock 19’s, my Glock 27, so that is how much I’ve come to love them, what I love about them mostly is their simplicity, and their dependability, I still love my SIGs I have a Sigg 226, , a Sig 220 , a Sig 229 legion , p238 , I love those pistols too , it’s just that now in the past couple years I’ve become a Glock fan boy too , maybe I’ll get one of the macros? Just not in my budget now,
I used to carry a Sig 225 back in the 80's and early 90's. I cannot believe how much lighter the newer guns are... and how much higher capacity they have, for less size and weight!
i had the original classic p225. about the only thing that gun and the striker fired guns of today have in common are their horrible triggers.
You know Glocks are obsolete when Glock Store is showcasing Sig products. - Recovering Glock Fanboy
Unbelievable right? Who knew I needed to get to a Glock channel to learn about a Sig. Next week’s episode will focus on the Rattler and Romeo 1pro
Lenny I respect your review of the Sig. Honest, straightforward. You’ve been and continue to be a great ambassador for Glock but I’m getting the feeling that you may be considering starting a SigStore. Continued success my friend. I joke with love.
I really like your practical advice. For example. Grip means everything. Anyone can point a gun and fire it one time and hit the target. You're a follow up shot however in a combat situation will be much different if you do not have a good grip on your gun. If you've only got two fingers on your gun versus all of your fingers. That makes a huge difference. Nobody ever points this stuff out. You do. Thank you. This is exactly why I love my Glock 19 X.
Sig and M&P are both great…. But Glock is My favorite 😊
There are 15 round mags available for the 43x. With that said, the Sig 365xl is a nicer shooting pistol that offers an external safety option, an option that Glock refuses to offer the customer.
I have the after market 15rd, I hate it.
@@GotoTechReviewsChannel why?
Ended up selling it. I could never quite get that 15th round in. The P365 X Macro is a fantastic EDC and was what I wished the 43X had been.
This dude is strangely super entertaining to watch. Fun comparison video, I want to pick up that macro.
Great review!
I just got my 43x MOS about 3 weeks ago... first time I got to shoot it I fell in love with it! Great little gun.
I like how he goes on about how accurate the trigger weight gage he uses is….then proceeds to shake the pistols and uses things like “eh it’s in that ballpark” 😂
❤👍🤣🙌
Always, a very thorough review Lenny.
Very thorough and well done. Thanks.
Capacity is the real Glock killer when talking about compact guns
Yes! Someone should release a 15 mag! No, wait…
I rather have undeniable reliability.
@@mcunhabr Nice bulge bud
@@AmericaTerrapin I haven't had any issues with my sig
@@bask1876 I’m sorry if it sounds like I am saying Sig isn’t reliable.. it wasn’t my intention. I just know my Glocks and all of my other friends glocks have never failed. I have never shot or owned a Sig, so my comment is extremely bias.
Will glockstore make a larger aftermarket backstrap for the macro? That would be great.
love your videos great information and no bullshit either. keep it up my friend love it!
Thanks for vid! I’m about to install sight on my x macro. Romeo x.
I own the subcompact p320, stand p365 and just got my p365x macro on friday and put 400 rounds through it yesterday. Great gun. I think I will enjoy it more with the romeozero elite. I carry my p320 have shot about 2000 rounds through it and have became very familiar with it. My p365x macro was firing lower than I expected and I didn't love the sights but that being said it could just be me being unfamiliar with them, over compensating because now all of my fingers fit on my grip and the compensator might have been messing with me a little bit. All in all I love the pistol. Can't wait for put a serious amount of rounds through it and get that optic on there. I have never owned an optic on a pistol besides my AR pistol but I am really excited about it.
Also if anyone is curious the Sig p320 subcompact and the P365x macro are the same exact size with full slide length and length of the grip. The slide is just much thinner on the p365x macro. Need to find a nice IWB holster with a cutout for the optic.
Shane, I purchased my Sig X MACRO added a Sig Romeo Zero Elite and Streamlight TLR-7A light. I paired it with the T-REX holster that accommodates both red dot and light. Also added a sidecar for the extra mag. Added a T1C wedge for comfort and now carry my brand new X Macro comfortably. Good luck.
Long time Glock fan and user. Where glock dropped the ball is the capacity of the 43x and 43. I own a 43 and it's a whopping 6+1. A g26 is just a little wider and almost double the rounds. Sig hit this one out the park.
Thanks Lenny! Great review.
The first awe-factor that I came across when I held the xmacro was the sight acquisition. So buttery smooth and natural to the presentation during ADS
Let me start by saying I don't own a Glock, but obviously they have their following for a reason! I don't think you could go wrong with either. Pros and cons to each. The 17 rd mag on the 365 X Macro was the selling point for me!
They must give you some great discounts or paychecks to sit here with a straight face and compare these two models. I own both and just got back from the deer lease from shooting the Xmacro paired with the Holosun 507k in green and to be honest it’s going to be my main carry after some abuse on the range. The 43x has been a safe Queen for about two years now. Shooting the 43X at the range was fine, but when I trained with it and started to actually use it in fighting condition (tighter grip) the 43x started to chew on my hand. Neve would have noticed this without actually training vs shooting at a range.
Outstanding Information... Thanks
This was a fun video to watch. I own a Glock 43x MOS with a Holosun EPS carry, and the Sig X Macro, also with the EPS carry. For whatever reason, the Sig blows the 43x out of the water, for me anyway. I got the 43x first, and I loved the slim grip. When I got my hands on the Sig, I knew I had to have it. I wasn't disappointed. I also have a 48 and a 19 MOS. They all will remain in my stable.
P365X is the top carry gun. U get a flush 12rd(14rd if u use mag guts) with flat face trigger. I get a full grip with the X and u keep the small compact conceal weapon. Same size as original 365 but lil longer frame so no 10rd mag 12 and 15rd. But flush 14rd with mag guts.
I was trying to decide on a new 22 pistol, something that was optics ready for a practice gun. Occasionally to suppress as well, but mainly a practice gun to have a counterpart to my 19 and 365x that has an optic. Guess what Glock doesn’t offer? An optics ready 22 pistol. Have to go aftermarket for an optics ready slide, which is almost as half the cost of the pistol. If you want to suppress it, you gotta buy a threaded barrel.
So I went with a Sig 322. Size wise it’s in between my 19 and 17. Fits the bill for a optic and suppressor ready gun. Kinda sad Glock can’t catch up.
Linny my friend. I’m damn near 70 years old and been scouring the stores and Internet for a handgun “I want to shoot for FUN” versus what I was assigned for 30 plus years as a work tool. Two days ago, I rented a 43X and a Sig 365 Uncompensated for evaluation purposes. 43 Hurt my hand the recoil was overly excessive to my hand grip. Granted, I am not in the best physical shape, Also I’ve been sick the last 15 years And just now decided I want to shoot for fun and sport yet at the same time have a close-up defensive gun just in case. As soon as I shot the SIG 365 I knew I found the right handgun. After about 10 rounds through the SIG I went right back into the main store and they sold me a Sig Sauer 365X with the factory compensator. I’m in love what can I say? ❤
Helpful video. I like the formate as well. I almost felt like we were sitting around the kitchen table talking guns.
Great review. I have a G43, G43X, Hellcat Pro and now a p365 Macro. I like all 3. I went to the hellcat pro, as I wanted to use factory mags. The new Sig is really nice, and I've had zero functions with all 3.
Problems to count until 4?
whats your fav? I'm in the Market and G43 p365 and S&W shield plus are what i have to chose between.
@@brownhaddl3y After having all 3, they have good quality, reliability and aftermarket support of holsters, etc. Generally, I like the G43X, however, while the Sheild 15 magazines have been generally good, I preferred a factory 15 round option over aftermarket, which lead me to the hellcat pro. When the Sig 365 Macro came out and I held it, it became my favorite and the others as spares. It's a tough choice between my Staccato and 365 Maco for CCW. Lastly, the only issue with the 365 Marco was the magazine availability, however they are now in stock, and I have two on the way.
@@EW-cp1gohellcat pro over sig macro? If someone already owns a hellcat pro should they get a macro instead ?
Having both. I tend to carry the hellcat over the sig. I like the stainless steel hellcat mags and have heard of instances of Rust on the Macro. I also have a light and RDS on the Marco and nothing on the Hellcat. I prefer it slick. ,@@arturopuebla4924
I've come back full circle. Started out Glock, then explored all the popular slim/micro 9's. 3 years later, here I am back on the G19 and G43...
Great review. Thanks
Lenny, where is Part II? I've searched your channel and I can't seem to find it. I enjoyed watching your comparison of the two, and was looking forward to seeing you finish it off. Thanks.
Just got my P365 XMacro and shot it this past week. It does remind me of the Glock 43X (my current carry). Not sure I like the comp. Not noticing a big difference in muzzle rise and with certain ammo, the flash out the top of the comp can be distracting. Can't beat the 17+1 rounds though. So, I'll likely take my P365 XL Specter (non-comp) slide and put it on the XMacro frame. Should be PERFECT!
Interesting idea!
I can’t stand Sig, but that setup with the Spectre is pretty rad, not gonna lie. I’d run it that way, too, as the comp can blind you all while decreasing velocity.
let us know how it goes with the switch!
That middle line in the comp will break after 8k rounds my guess
Exactly what I am thinking… but I may even try out the 17 round mag with baseplate instead. I love the laser engraving on the spectre so much I’d hate to lose it
I like the Glock's safety systems more:
* Glock striker is only half cocked when loaded/chambered - generally not enough energy to ignite a primer if all other safeties fail. That is why the Glock has a tougher trigger pull, its the cost of this failsafe.
* The firing pin/striker safety is independent from the sear on the Glock, vs having the striker safety on the same striker protrusion as the sears (Single point of failure). If the sig's striker breaks at the rear lug, all in battery safeties are defeated and the gun will discharge. Extremely unlikely that this happens because it is a strong part, but does require proper manufacture (MIM part).
* Glock has a safety ledge that prevents the cruciform from depressing and releasing sear when the trigger is not pressed to the rear. This would prevent the sear from slipping under a drop on the top of the slide or other failures.
* Has an inertial trigger safety (the two piece trigger) that prevents the trigger from depressing on impact due to momentum. Sig has a different sear release mechanism for the trigger that makes it safe without a trigger safety, and also has a secondary sear if the first slips or breaks.
* Both have solid in battery safeties, so that the trigger cannot release until the gun is properly locked.
From the operator perspective, I like the Sig more:
* Safer maintenance: No trigger press to disassemble.
* Smoother trigger: Trigger does not have to cock the striker
* Modular Fire Control Unit: Replace banged up grip frames, or upgrade to different types of frames with different mag options
I don't think the Sig is unsafe, and I don't think the Glock is hard to use/operate. They're both great choices.
Thank you sir for this. Biggest problem I have seen. Especially with a M&P compact. It feels wrong for a large guy like me. It feels unsafe to even hold the gun as much fire it.
Good presentation Lenny. I have to say I lean more Sig than Glock these days based on some of their recent, great offerings. Will stop by the store here soon. 👍
I have Sig 365, 365XL, g43x and g48. Sig has more advantages on concealment due to its size. But the shooting experience, I prefer g43x and g48 mos. More soft and less recoil.
The 43X recoils less than the P365XL for you? I guess it really is subjective, the 43X is quite a bit more snappy for me.
@@stephen_crumley Agreed. 43X is more snappy (muzzle rise) than 365XL, but better recoil control than 365XL. G48 MOS is a little bit batter than 365XL in all aspects but rounds capacity. Less than 4in barrel pistols, it is all about to same, just personal preference.
As for accuracy, this gun is accurate if you put the effort into it.
At a distance of 25 yards, shooting the Sig P365, I had to pay extra attention to the "Shooting Dynamics" for Precision Accuracy!
First, my grip had to be high upon the back strap of the pistol, held very tight. Second, both "Sight Alignment" and "Trigger Control" had to be precise and smooth. By strictly following these stages, I finally was able to produce both a Five shot group of 2" along with a Ten shot group of 3.5" both from 25 yards, using Blazer 115gr fmj 9mm. All shooting was done using Two hands, standing unsupported (slow fire)!
Firearms of any kind are only as "accurate" as the hands in which they're held.
Great vid. Thanks.
Great stuff and honest review.
Pretty sure CZ has the best bore access ratio on the market but maybe I'm cz-centric I own both Glocks and CZ's
You're right though. CZ has the best bore axis (outside of the Alien) on the market
Yeah, when he said that, I just eye rolled. He obviously doesn't get out much.
I think Styer has the best bore access ratio
@@kuttinupjay330i over CZ's inverted rail pistols? I'd be shocked
Styer has the best I think also
A Sig feature Lenny didn't mention is the ease of changing the grip module. Have you already got a P365 XL? Then just buy a different grip module, pop out the fire control unit by removing one pin and drop it in the new grip! (Try to keep up Glock)
Looking forward to the new SS/GS , Sig Sauer & Glock Store, opening in Texas!
Who wants to switch back and forth all the time? That's stupid. I want a dedicated gun for each purpose. So i go on vacation, and want a small gun for concealed carry and a larger gun for home defense (hotel, condo). You really expect me to swap the FCU into large frame, and then swap it back each morning when I go out? That's just absurd. Id rather take 2 guns dedicated for each purpose, and worst case scenario, I've got 2 guns in case one breaks, gets lost or stolen, or I need to arm another person with me. This whole FCU frame swap bs is nothing but a gimmick for gullible people that are easily influenced by marketing.
@@Watchdog_McCoy_5.7x28 I don't think I mentioned switching out grip modules daily, I just pointed out that it was an option. If a person decides to change the frame size on the P365 later, they don't have to get another gun or bother with trading theirs in....
I agree switching daily or even monthly is a bit ridiculous but I also think the ability to easily change the frame size is a good feature.
@@texas66 I don't hate the concept entirely, but I don't see the point in buying multiple frames without having an FCU for each frame. I don't want to swap frames each time I decide to use a different size gun, whether it be daily, weekly, monthly, etc. That's not even the worst thing about Sig either. They released a gun that fires when dropped, and drop safe guns have been made for decades upon decades already. Then instead of recalling them like a company that has integrity should do, they instead offer a voluntary "upgrade", as if the version that fires without pulling the trigger is still an acceptable alternative if you don't want to bother sending it in. That's downright disgusting. Their qc problems are getting ridiculous as well. The MPX (or was it the MCX?), the p320, the p365 breaking strikers (in a carry gun no less, marketed as a gun that you carry everyday in case you need to defend yourself from being killed). Then there's the Sig Cross that again would fire without the trigger being pulled. Then they just recalled some ammo that wasn't loaded properly and could cause a squib which is very dangerous as well. Innovation is cool, when quality control isn't sacrificed in the process. I'm a quality control engineer in the nuclear industry, so I have a little experience in quality control and I speak from experience. Sig is just cutting corners in an attempt to takeover the market, and putting real lives in danger in the process. There's not a chance in hell I'd ever buy anything made by Sig in these days. I value my life, and those around me, and therefore I can't justify having any Sig products around me, and they aren't allowed on my personal shooting range either (after a friends p320 fired when sitting on the table without anyone even touching the gun, and then the Sig Cross he had would fire when you touched the bolt handle) unless they were made before Sig USA got involved. Maybe I'd be a bigger fan of the FCU concept if a company that values quality over profits and market shares started making them, instead of a company that has someone pulling strings for them to get government contracts. How do you suppose they beat Glock by 100 million dollars (or whatever ridiculously cheaper amount it was) in the last handgun trials? They sacrificed quality control, and they jacked up the prices for consumers as well to offset them basically giving away the guns to the government. You can't be that much cheaper without cutting corners, and my experience in quality control is what gives me the expertise and discernment to see what's going on. Sig has spread themselves too thin by expanding into other markets too fast (guns, optics, ammo, etc.), and they allowed their reputation for excellent quality to drop, all in the name of that Almighty Dollar, and that's unforgivable imo, whether they make innovative products or not, it's irrelevant to me because I lost trust in the products working as they are supposed to. Most people aren't enthusiasts like myself, and will get talked into jumping on the wagon by their local gun store salesmen that could care less about selling you a quality product, and by youtube shills that are bought and paid for to advertise Sig products as if they are the gold standard, when the evidence says otherwise. The FCU is still a gimmick that serves as nothing more than a selling point. Of all the people I know that have a Sig that uses an FCU, not a single one ever actually uses it as it was intended. They still go and buy another complete gun instead of swapping frames, because like I said before, they don't want multiple frames sitting around that are useless when the FCU is in another frame. The only legitimate swap I could see is where you can swap the hangun FCU into a carbine, but then it's still the same problem where you can only shoot one or the other, and the price savings from not having to buy another FCU is still not enough to make it a great choice when you can buy a complete gun for just a few hundred bucks extra. It's an idea that sounds great, but isn't actually as useful in the real world as people think it will be. Then to top it off, the qc is garbage, so why would I want to go buy an FCU, and multiple frames, for a gun that's made by a company that can't even make a gun that doesn't fire without pulling the trigger... Sig of old is long gone, and the old Sigs I have are excellent, and I would never sell them, but I'm not buying anything they make nowadays, where quality is nothing but an afterthought to this company. They should be ashamed to even use the Sig name, because they aren't representative of what Sig was before they stopped making guns over in Germany. They are merely riding the coattails of the glory days when Sig was a top tier manufacturer. Sorry about the rant, but I'm absolutely disgusted with the present day version of what was formerly one of the greatest gun manufacturers in the world. It's actually a problem because of America and the lazy, entitled attitudes of American employees. Im a Glock fan admittedly, but i won't buy a Glock made in the USA either, because Americans have gotten lazy and make terrible products. The only Glock that ever gave me any problems whatsoever was a g43 made in America, and it's sitting in the safe collecting dust because I can't in good conscience sell it to anyone knowing it's a hunk of junk. Have a good one though, and do as you please. I just truly want people to make informed decisions and not get suckered into marketing gimmicks and poor quality because they see everyone else doing the same thing. ✌️
@@texas66 it’s so damn easy I wouldn’t mind switching it daily it’s just that easy. Takes less than a minute. But what I do is I have two different slide assemblies, the xl and the x. Instead of having two separate guns for “summer carry” and “winter carry” I just change the slide assembly I don’t even need to swap out the fcu unless I want to change grip module but I stick with the normal xl grip module.
I just got my first Sig . P365xl . After buying several guns and learning just about what I want. I hope this my best choice. Wish I had found the Glock store a long ago. I am 73 and a woman. New to the gun world. And found a wonderful trainer
Glad your carrying SIg Sauer stuff, I have an Sp2022 9mm and love it !!!!
I’m new to your channel and also in Nashville… love that orange checkerboard gun in the background.
Sig Sauer basically did what I wanted Glock to do - small pistol 9mm 17 + rounds crazy engineering.... will have to check it out next show.... except I want Glock to make the 43X with a slightly fatter handle that can fit the magazines of gen 4 down magazines... compatibility...
No that makes no sense the whole point of the 43 X is to have the thinnest frame and slide … if you want interchangeability with the mags just get yourself a Glock 26
The XL with that 17rd mag is enough of a glock killer for me, what an incredible package
I bought the Macro, and my favorite set up is the Macro slide, Wilson Combat XL sized grip module, 12 round magazine with my 17 round magazine as a reload!
You're using the macro slide on an XL? The integrated compensater won't line up with the longer barrel? Your using it because its optics ready? @@chrish3274
For me it is about recoil control I would love to see a redesign on the frame to have a useable thumb rest to aid in recoil. I know some folks modify to add this really it a reduction material it would help control the gun
I love my Glock 19 and my sig spectre for smaller carry, both great guns
All of my friends who own the glock and the sig end up carrying the 43x, myself included. We’ve talked about why and it comes down to the natural point of aim from the grip angle and the recoil recovery seems better on the Glock. I use the 15 round shield arms mags and have never had an Issue.
My G-17 is basically a brick on top of an angled brick....and I love it. It's reliable, light enough, fits good in my paws. Maybe my wife will be interested in this new Sig P365 X. Although ...I'm a retrograde, I used to carry a German-made Makarov for many years.
I love makarovs.
I love makarovs
“Maybe my wife’d like it” -Glock 17 owner 🤣 😂 holy mother of based! Also, German Makarovs I know little about, but I bet they’re different, but sweet.
@@OneD33pTX Well, many moons ago I carried a PM in Ukrainian Army, naturally, it was soviet-made. Here, in the States, I sort of wanted to stick with what I new - a PM, but didn't want anything russian, so I got me a German PM. The only difference is quality of German work.
Love my 19 builds ...love my 48 but common ..sig figured it out after few gens on this puppy ..its a amazing carry gun
Have (2) 43x, looking at the macro. Like the video and true honesty. 👍
Glock needs to follow suit like SIG and S&W by having an optics cut on all models.
Not everyone wants optics on their guns.
@@bc_usa Ik but at least it will be an option
I hear you, but considering how bad the MOS system is, I still prefer to buy non-optic ready slides, and send them off to be milled. The only time I’ve purchased an MOS Glock was the 43X and 48, and that was just for the light rail on the frame. I sent both of those off to CHPWS to be milled for the RMR cc and they both turned out great.
People that never owned a Glock like them bone stock orginal look no cuts and nothings wrong with that like bro said just send the slide off to get a proprietary cut for the forever optic on that gun and your good
@@OneD33pTX Optics on a micro carry gun is not needed. In a self defense shooting up close you are going to point and shoot. Usually not enough time to even look at the irons. I train for that.
A Flock pistol in completely stock form other than sights and possibly Wolff magazine springs is always going to be a reliable performer. That said, I’m seriously looking at the 365 series because the stock Sig trigger is so much of an improvement, particularly in the stock 43/43x, to make the switch worth it. Add sights, an after market flat face trigger and possibly S15 mags and it’s cheaper to go with a 365x or xl.
My first gun was a (legacy) Sig p229. I eventually installed the e2 grip on that. I put like 50k rounds through that thing, rebuilt it twice... Loved it, but accuracy wise I was never great with it. Barrel was so high over the grip, just could never master it. Then the p80 came out. So I made myself a g19 with one (got almost everything from here actually), threw an optic on top, put in an apex trigger, polished the crap out of everything that moves... and OH boy can I laser the center of a target with that thing. Then the 365 became MA legal, so I jumped on one, but kinda always hated shooting it. Too snappy, grip never felt right (too small), couldn't really trade it for an xl, it had the same problems essentially, even with the longer grip. The game changer for that thing is the wilson combat grip module, and it's an entirely different gun. Got the XL size frame, keeping the standard size slide, and it feels SO MUCH better. Fills the hand, feels so good compared to the stock grip, but still very concealable.
So, I definitely feel you on the grip size/angle issue. I'm a lover of both Sig and Glock, but glock (and polymer 80) just fit my hand so much better. I feel like even though glock is more modular, Sig is closing that gap VERY quickly, especially with the 365 models. So many aftermarket options popping up. Other thing that they did which is just freaking genius, is the removable FCU and it being the registered part. Made my life VERY nice switching to that wilson combat module. Definitely the way of the future.
Loved my 43x but having bigger hands my pinky was always searching for a spot. I shot the macro and it felt so awesome in my hand I bought it and haven't looked back.