Carrying a Gun with a Live Round in the Chamber?? Massad Ayoob answers the question. Critical Mas 55

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  • @BossinDawson253
    @BossinDawson253 ปีที่แล้ว +1125

    "The 1st shot is a lot more important than the 15th shot"
    Well said

    • @stateniland
      @stateniland ปีที่แล้ว +17

      that's why I always carry a REVOLVER

    • @snek9353
      @snek9353 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@stateniland That's why I always carry a 1911.

    • @alexdarcydestsimon3767
      @alexdarcydestsimon3767 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      ​​@@snek9353 1911 looks nice.
      Is it drop safe ?

    • @snek9353
      @snek9353 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@alexdarcydestsimon3767 Mostly, some completely, it depends.

    • @donelladavis171
      @donelladavis171 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      True.....even in multiple attacker scenarios.

  • @hob976
    @hob976 ปีที่แล้ว +789

    My pistols click tight into Kydex and that's enough trigger protection for my hip. In our home, my wife knows that every pistol fires when you draw it and pull the trigger - so there's no shaky, extra steps when she's protecting her life. There's no small children to worry about. I'm content with our setup.

  • @rubbersole79
    @rubbersole79 ปีที่แล้ว +569

    "There's a reason they call it a handgun, and not a handsgun." - This man is a legend.

    • @MrLandslide84
      @MrLandslide84 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Exactly! You can bet for sure the other guy has it loaded and pointed already.

    • @kizzthis9983
      @kizzthis9983 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      dont quit your day job. yawn....

    • @steves1608
      @steves1608 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      This guy, MA, has been around too long, knows too much and has too much experience for me NOT to take what he says seriously.
      Mine are chambered.

    • @marcosvidal4940
      @marcosvidal4940 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      probably the reason is random and completely unrelated to what he said

    • @vincedibona4687
      @vincedibona4687 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I am not saying anything other than this: it doesn’t take two hands to rack the slide on most modern handguns. Again, do not read anything else into this but what I stated. I absolutely carry with one in the pipe. But everyone needs to know you can do it one-handed and practice doing that one handed. What if your gun has a malfunction and your non-dominant hand is busy? Rack it by catching the rear sight on your belt, waistband, pocket, even your thigh and shoe. Again, this should be common knowledge and a practiced function.

  • @skyybandit7317
    @skyybandit7317 ปีที่แล้ว +388

    I never heard of this guy before, but I’m also a new gun owner. And just like that, he answered two of many questions I have being a new gun owner. Yes, he will be my go to guy when I have more questions. Thank you sir.

    • @zipper978
      @zipper978 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      He is a legend. how have you not hear of him?

    • @ИгорьИжщенков
      @ИгорьИжщенков ปีที่แล้ว +24

      @@zipper978
      I first heard of Masaad Ayoob back in the early 1980s.
      I’ve been reading his books and articles since then.

    • @johny9516
      @johny9516 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      You can’t go wrong following Mas.

    • @365xmacronocomp
      @365xmacronocomp ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I haven't heard of him either but yes he just answered my question too and I'm new to this as well

    • @incredible3214
      @incredible3214 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      For new gun owners: Paul Harrel.

  • @ActiveSelfProtection
    @ActiveSelfProtection ปีที่แล้ว +1042

    Massad Ayoob called me his friend in public. I think I have peaked! :)
    Great video, Mas. Thanks for making it!

    • @gowilsoncombat
      @gowilsoncombat  ปีที่แล้ว +142

      I was wondering if you would notice! It is an honor to be called a "Friend" by Mas!

    • @monsolympus7823
      @monsolympus7823 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Watch your ASP!

    • @ScrappyXFL
      @ScrappyXFL ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@monsolympus7823 LOL name kinda says it all "Self"

    • @josephpacchetti5997
      @josephpacchetti5997 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Hello John.

    • @timmygunz7103
      @timmygunz7103 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Ahh he used the verbal judo on you

  • @samuelbellamy4218
    @samuelbellamy4218 ปีที่แล้ว +487

    "There's a reason they call it a hand gun not a hands gun" I like this guy.

    • @ACommenterOnYouTube
      @ACommenterOnYouTube ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Same dumb analogy as to why you park in a driveway OR drive on a parkway.

    • @bubbalong7646
      @bubbalong7646 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's a pistol. As opposed to a rifle.

    • @mkvnwk
      @mkvnwk ปีที่แล้ว +4

      There's a reason they call it cocking the hammer and not thumbing the hammer.

    • @bubbalong7646
      @bubbalong7646 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mkvnwk Cocked and locked.

    • @Old940
      @Old940 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      In the military it's not a gun, it's a weapon

  • @mldiode
    @mldiode 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +79

    I’ve been a,”wheel man” for years as was my Dad. So true as you say about the revolver as an alternative choice. When I first concealed carried I asked my Dad what his thoughts were on my decision. He wisely said to me, “When you take possession of a firearm you always have to have in the back of your mind where it is and who is around you. It is your utmost responsibility.”

    • @jamallabarge2665
      @jamallabarge2665 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Your Dad is or was a wise man.

    • @glenallencox966
      @glenallencox966 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Situational awareness ….. I carry, and no one gets within 40 feet of me without my knowing it. The only exception would be in a store, and even then I keep a high awareness of my surroundings. I have carried for most of my adult life and this is second nature. As with you, I was taught this by my father and older brothers.

    • @jimjones-pz1tt
      @jimjones-pz1tt 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      Unless you're Alec Baldwin.

    • @brimac58
      @brimac58 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Your Dad is a wise man.

    • @tomwinner5350
      @tomwinner5350 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I do not like the change or the responsibility. I would like being a victim far less. Truth is I’m just too old to fight now and I’ve got a girl who still looks to me to protect her. The problem is whatever situation I find myself in now a gun is present. So I educate and learn to be careful.

  • @rcrobertson9563
    @rcrobertson9563 ปีที่แล้ว +542

    This is by far the best explanation and answer to the round-in-chamber question

    • @ACommenterOnYouTube
      @ACommenterOnYouTube ปีที่แล้ว +59

      here is another one, the criminal ALREADY HAS a round in the chamber ...

    • @makatron
      @makatron ปีที่แล้ว +21

      ​@@ACommenterOnTH-cam you win this comment section

    • @mbenjamin292
      @mbenjamin292 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Amen

    • @russr
      @russr ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Yeah except for that AR information, there's no way you're going to get an AR to fire by hitting the rear of it or dropping it.
      The dimple caused by chambering around is also never going to cause it to fire.
      You could chamber the same round 100 times and it's still not going to go off.

    • @RoyWOGwin
      @RoyWOGwin ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@ACommenterOnTH-cam❤❤

  • @Jonathan906
    @Jonathan906 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    I like that you were thoughtful enough to present the revolver as an alternative.

  • @johny9516
    @johny9516 ปีที่แล้ว +1616

    If you’re comfortable with one in the chamber, carry on, if you’re not, carry on. Welcome to America!

    • @zacharyolds1639
      @zacharyolds1639 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      😂 yea 🎉

    • @tnsquire3195
      @tnsquire3195 ปีที่แล้ว +72

      Yes - but let’s not pretend you are really carrying without one in the pipe.

    • @RJ-qq8kb
      @RJ-qq8kb ปีที่แล้ว +7

      LCR .357

    • @morganlawless2714
      @morganlawless2714 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      The land of the free and the home of the brave❤️🇺🇸

    • @wendya.presley7316
      @wendya.presley7316 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Could there be a case where having 1 in the tube could get me in trouble? I see cops freak out on TV if there's 1 in the chamber of a carrier compared to empty

  • @jimmymiller77
    @jimmymiller77 ปีที่แล้ว +104

    This guy is such a wealth of information. I could listen to him for hours. Each time I learn something new. Thanks so much for sharing your knowledge. Jim

    • @vincedibona4687
      @vincedibona4687 หลายเดือนก่อน

      His name is Massad, not Jim.

  • @stevefowler2112
    @stevefowler2112 ปีที่แล้ว +80

    This gentleman is literally the best authority and most eloquently equipped to speak about firearms on the planet (an old U.S. Recon Marine vet.).

  • @mickmcloughlin1646
    @mickmcloughlin1646 ปีที่แล้ว +69

    Retired LEO. Our department had us carry S&W Model 4006s, with a decocker. First round fired was DA. I liked this feature a lot. My carry weapons now are either an M&P 9mm, or a Colt 1911 9mm with the safety on, always one in the chamber as Massad suggests. The S can really hit the fan in an instant. You must be able to react in an instant. Thank you sir. Your videos are absolutely the best out there hands down. Anyone that's new to shooting should learn from this man. Wishing you all peace.

    • @smokinhalf
      @smokinhalf ปีที่แล้ว +3

      To bad da/sa with decocker is now made in such few models. I love them. I would like a smaller carry handgun in this setup.

  • @manuelgonzalezjr113
    @manuelgonzalezjr113 ปีที่แล้ว +232

    As a former L.E.O. I have carried a round in the chamber of my Glock 40 since We transitioned from revolver to semi-auto in 1991. And still have a round in my chamber . Always ready, always Vigilant. Stay safe everybody.

    • @samson9775
      @samson9775 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I was issued my glock 22 in 94. I always carry with a loaded chamber. No longer in law enforcement.

    • @tullo5564
      @tullo5564 ปีที่แล้ว

      That'd mean light primer strikes, sooner or later since the spring won't handle it for long

    • @FlashBang33
      @FlashBang33 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      ​@@tullo5564 Springs aren't worn by being compressed, springs lose tension when they're worked repeatedly. You could have a round in the chamber for 50 years straight and it'll still go bang when you pull the trigger

    • @steveo1413
      @steveo1413 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      ​@@tullo5564 completely false.

    • @iDiglett
      @iDiglett ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@tullo5564A glock’s striker isn’t even under spring tension until you pull the trigger 😂

  • @markrenn1151
    @markrenn1151 ปีที่แล้ว +122

    I LOVE this guy. I have every book he has written. Way back in the early years you had to buy from Paliden Press, or Delta Press. His get even books are funny as hell. I used his technique for firing from both hands. Stress firing and so on. I've bought his books from 1980, the year I graduated and joined my USMC. Ronald Reagan sent us to Beirut and then we got sent to South America to train Contras. I'll never forget Oct. 1983, carrying dead Marines out of our Barracks. This man taught us all and we all love, and will always love him. Semper Fi Brother. All my love. You ARE the man.

    • @gordonstroup882
      @gordonstroup882 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      "ABSOFUKINLUTELY!"

    • @scottcalvert2537
      @scottcalvert2537 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Semper Fi Brother.

    • @patrickhart4299
      @patrickhart4299 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I had a friend who in the infamous Picture of a marine standing atop the rubble of your barracks, Johnny (name withheld) due to Johns not haven given Permission I am sure you must know of him, my Brother NEVER AGAIN will my Marines be unprepared for an enemy attack.

    • @MM-mg7ob
      @MM-mg7ob ปีที่แล้ว

      You were in Beirut when the barrack bombing occured in october 1983?

    • @knifelore1647
      @knifelore1647 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you for your service, from an Army Grunt!

  • @tylerhaugen6953
    @tylerhaugen6953 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    This is the kind of no nonsense and thorough explanation a person new to concealed carry needs. Thank you.

  • @muzzlevelocity4397
    @muzzlevelocity4397 ปีที่แล้ว +104

    Once again, I am better informed from an eight minute video from Massad Ayoob than I could have imagined. I was already certain that 'one in the pipe' was better for handguns, but I am now well informed about why not to do so for my long guns. One of the trainers from a shooting course that I took was a local deputy also. He stated that in law enforcement, a pistol without a round in the chamber is known as a 'dead man's gun', and I believe that they are in a position to know such things.

    • @itsapittie
      @itsapittie ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Going back many decades to my military training, I have pretty much always been aware that most rifles and shotguns aren't genuinely "drop safe" and typically don't put a round in the chamber until I'm ready to use it. However, a handgun and a long gun serve different purposes. The handgun is what you're going to have when everything has suddenly gone to shit and you have to return fire right now or die. For the most part, long guns (in civilian usage) come into play when you have a few seconds to respond (someone breaking into the other end of the house, for example). Military is a little different because most soldiers don't have a handgun and they have the rifle literally in their hands. Even so, we were taught to carry with an empty chamber in lower-risk situations. When contact with the enemy is imminent it's worth the risk of putting one in the chamber with the safety on but it definitely increases the risk of an inadvertent discharge. Mas's advice is spot on.

    • @Ou81269
      @Ou81269 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      “Dead man’s gun”. That pretty much says it all about carrying without a round in the chamber.

    • @aj897
      @aj897 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I had no idea that modern ARs shouldn't be stored with one in the chamber, I always keep it empty but now I know for sure not to put one in there

    • @patrickhart4299
      @patrickhart4299 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @Repent and believe in Jesus Christ and pass the ammo, my brother God helps those who help themselves.

  • @silverfox5319
    @silverfox5319 ปีที่แล้ว +134

    Massad without a doubt is the holy grail of firearm knowledge. Regardless of the subject matter his presentations include various scenarios and all available options to consider for the firearm owner. I always enjoy watching his videos.

    • @conga205
      @conga205 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I agree. And I'm not one to "sit at the knee". This man's base of knowledge is both immense and interesting.

  • @johnsunlight
    @johnsunlight ปีที่แล้ว +178

    Another option for people who aren't comfortable carrying a striker fired gun with a round in the chamber is to get a DA/SA gun with an external hammer, and carry it with a loaded chamber but with the hammer down. The long, heavy DA first trigger pull makes a lot of people much more comfortable, and the follow up SA shots are easy.

    • @drizler
      @drizler ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Sadly those are few and far between these days and it’s too bad.

    • @MrMre11878
      @MrMre11878 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      That's why I carry an HK P30SK SA/DA, I feel much safer with a round in the chamber, even carrying appendix.

    • @BasedHyperborean
      @BasedHyperborean ปีที่แล้ว +13

      People who aren't comfortable carrying striker fired guns just need to learn how they work and why they're basically the safest option.

    • @Quantaviousdingleberry
      @Quantaviousdingleberry ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @@BasedHyperborean they are very safe. They are definitely not the safest option though.

    • @mtnride4930
      @mtnride4930 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@drizler I carry a CZ P-01 with a decocker love that gun

  • @1950Archangel
    @1950Archangel 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I LOVE Mas Ayoob! He's SUCH a good teacher! Watch everything he posts!

  • @carlrball
    @carlrball ปีที่แล้ว +94

    Truly one of the best advisors on firearms usage in the world today!

  • @chrisgunsandguitars1403
    @chrisgunsandguitars1403 ปีที่แล้ว +191

    As usual Mas did a great job explaining how it may be difficult to rack the slide under stress or attack. I’ve always looked at it as driving without a seatbelt and thinking you will have time to put your seatbelt on before the crash.

    • @KentuckyMan
      @KentuckyMan ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Excellent example buddy.

    • @cagneybillingsley2165
      @cagneybillingsley2165 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      another option is to have a thumb safety

    • @sktona
      @sktona ปีที่แล้ว +11

      This terrible analogy again…

    • @allangoodchild8989
      @allangoodchild8989 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Takes less then a second to rack the slide with both hands. Takes hand eye coordination to quickly buckle a seat belt, around a second, and a one handed task. Not the best comparison.
      If you always have a habit of racking the slide because it sometimes isn’t chambered I think thats a good thing, saves A Lot more time then pulling the trigger that one time you think its hot when it’s not then racking it after your reaction clears up.
      A safety you have to always be in the habit of flipping off, some guns you flip up most down.
      Someone handed me a five seven and a child walked in front of the barrel, I checked the breach and it was hot, if he had handed it the type of guy that always puts his finger on the trigger he could have lost a child.
      I guess it’s situational If only you are going to be handling a gun and have a perfect safety record then carry it hot or not at your discretion.
      I think it’s more likely the majority of gun owners will have an serious accident then actually help themselves in a self defense situation though.

    • @irishdefense77
      @irishdefense77 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@allangoodchild8989 if you’d ever been in a fight for your life-you would change your thought process on this-and your shorts.
      There is never enough time to rack a round into the chamber of your defensive pistol.Your hands will either be tied up defending against an attack or a gun grab or you’ll be off balance and on your ass.I have been a Trooper for 23 years and EVERY time I had to draw my firearm I never had time to chamber a round.Good thing we were trained correctly and I didn’t have to.

  • @gregggibson3109
    @gregggibson3109 ปีที่แล้ว +85

    As always, I found Mas’ insights informative and beneficial, particularly, relative to “long guns” because I hadn’t heard this commentary before. My “ready rifle” is always “magged up, chamber empty” but I wasn’t aware this was a recommended condition. With regard to my “carry” firearms, I made a move to chambered round DA/SAs about 2 years ago…something I really never anticipated doing since I’d competed with SA “striker fired”handguns for years. The DA/SA not only offers a significant advantage in safe carry, but is a great tool for training & mastering trigger control. That, in fact, was a significant factor in making the decision to move into the DA and I have not regretted that move at all.

  • @fabe202
    @fabe202 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Sir- you are a true genuine expert in the field - I have been folllowing you for a long time. Thankyou for your service and teachings.
    Retired Officer Ron
    Hazleton, Pa

  • @ProdigalSisyphus
    @ProdigalSisyphus ปีที่แล้ว +161

    This man is a wealth of knowledge and I’m glad we live in the Information Age, would never be able to take in his experience and understanding of firearms without it. Another outstanding video!

    • @justvisiten
      @justvisiten ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I also am grateful for the ease of access to information. But some of were "following" Mr. Ayoob in the 70's. He has been a mentor to me for, going on 6 decades.

  • @jamesfitzpatrick1052
    @jamesfitzpatrick1052 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    Mas is a friend of mine, his knowledge here is spot on.....
    When I started to carry, I admit, it was a little intimidating to carry a loaded gun. After some time getting comfortable with it, it feels as normal as carrying a set of keys or my phone.
    YMMV, and that is OK.....
    But at the end of the day, a loaded gun is the only way FOR ME!!
    Thanks as always Mas!

  • @bernardhayes4459
    @bernardhayes4459 ปีที่แล้ว +68

    His ability to articulate solutions to questions is amazing!

    • @ACommenterOnYouTube
      @ACommenterOnYouTube ปีที่แล้ว

      its called common sense

    • @MarkHolmberg
      @MarkHolmberg ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Critical Thinking with Critical Mas

    • @shadowdawg04
      @shadowdawg04 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ACommenterOnTH-cam Guess you don't understand 'articulate' huh?

    • @ACommenterOnYouTube
      @ACommenterOnYouTube ปีที่แล้ว

      @@shadowdawg04 You lack common sense huh ?

    • @shadowdawg04
      @shadowdawg04 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ACommenterOnTH-cam And you know this how?

  • @coyote520
    @coyote520 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is the guy I listen to. He knows the business, the laws, and he knows guns. HIS opinion is the one I most value when it comes to TH-cam.

  • @TheZotman5
    @TheZotman5 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    When brain gets a little scattered, I find and watch a Massad video. His calm, clear, focused and detailed explanations help get my brainwaves back in order. He should be held up as an example of good communication, and rational thinking, even to the non-firearm appreciation crowd.

  • @elderbob100
    @elderbob100 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Massad is the gold standard for armed combat. One serious dude.

  • @sfckrbec
    @sfckrbec ปีที่แล้ว +59

    Great explanation. As a US Army retiree I had a problem with a weapon with no safety, so I cheated. I switched from a pistol with no safety to one that was single action double action. The process of training the heavy first trigger pull transitioning to the light pull for the second shot took a bit of time but for me was well worth it. The heavy pull for the first shot feels enough like a safety to me to make me feel comfortable. Also, thank you for mentioning that AR's are not drop safe, I had to bury a guy who had his LT slam his M-16 in his the back seat of the HMMVW and discharged his weapon into the back of the head of his TC. The fact that these weapons are not safe to throw around is not talked about enough.

    • @fishinfool3795
      @fishinfool3795 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I love decockers on DA/SA hammer fired pistols. I feel much more comfortable CCW this way than cocked and locked.

    • @BasedHyperborean
      @BasedHyperborean ปีที่แล้ว

      @@fishinfool3795 could just carry a modern handgun

    • @ghostshadow9046
      @ghostshadow9046 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@fishinfool3795 Isn't a decocker when gun has ND while appendix carry?🤔🤔🤔

    • @alfonsedente9679
      @alfonsedente9679 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah!
      Lets ban them

    • @QdMaster
      @QdMaster ปีที่แล้ว

      Never heard that about ar's for some crazy reason, but I never keep those chambered anyway, nor do I keep my shotgun chambered... Just always made sense to me to keep the stove empty lol. However my. 40 etc is always chambered with a double action on half cock saftey on...

  • @pudimdecana51
    @pudimdecana51 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Finally a youtube video that answers the proposed question, instead of 15min of “do what you believe suits you best”.
    I don’t even own a gun, but is a pleasure to listen to you lecturing! Thank you

  • @fountainvalley100
    @fountainvalley100 ปีที่แล้ว +176

    I guess it depends if you want to use your pistol as a club or a firearm.

    • @satagaming9144
      @satagaming9144 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      "I drive my car without the seatbelt on, because I trust myself to be able to put it on quickly enough in the event of a crash."

    • @cjykqn
      @cjykqn ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I will be John Wick when the bad guys show up😎

    • @RealMTBAddict
      @RealMTBAddict ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@cjykqn sure

    • @michaell397
      @michaell397 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@satagaming9144 Stupidest thing I've ever read in my life.

    • @nomore8042
      @nomore8042 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      A pistol without one in the pipe is just a hammer !

  • @someguy1717
    @someguy1717 ปีที่แล้ว +75

    Massad did a great job helping me make my decision. I just started taking handgun lessons from a current member of the Wilson shooting team and that's how I wound up here. Thank you Massad & Wilson. You just got another subscriber.

  • @David-nx2vm
    @David-nx2vm ปีที่แล้ว +25

    When I was in the Air Force and we converted from S&W revolver to 9mm semi-auto, our standard carry config was magazine inserted, round in chamber, safety selector off. Of course.

    • @itsapittie
      @itsapittie ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The M9 is a DA/SA so the long first trigger pull acts as a safety mechanism. The way you describe is the most rational way to carry them. I'm not personally uncomfortable with SA striker-fired pistols and I frequently carry a CZ P10c but there's no doubt that SA striker-fired pistols require the highest level of trigger discipline and awareness and I can understand why some people are uncomfortable with a round in the chamber. A DA/SA or DAO is a viable option for those people.

    • @chrise.cullen1902
      @chrise.cullen1902 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Carried the M9 as well in the USAF, round in chamber on fire. 🇺🇸

    • @DavidLLambertmobile
      @DavidLLambertmobile ปีที่แล้ว

      In the US Army MPs 1990s we used: M9s 9mm 15rd 124gr NATO with a empty chamber, condition lll.

  • @nrj_1957
    @nrj_1957 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    It’s always a breath of fresh air. To hear this man’s explanation of why and his knowledge input. Thank you Massad for your service!

  • @azcactus2008
    @azcactus2008 ปีที่แล้ว +114

    Thank you for this video. I definitely learned some thing about not carrying a long gun chambered from you. Even though I have been a gun owner for over 25 years, there is always more to learn. During a recent Second Amendment rally in Arizona I also learned that gun owners need to stop being so critical of each other, and be more united.

    • @daffidavit
      @daffidavit ปีที่แล้ว +18

      I just learned the same thing about the AR and not keeping a round in it. I noticed in the recent Nashville police cam video, the officer with the rifle didn't chamber his weapon until just before walking into the building. I wondered why he did that. Now I know.

    • @MyGuy42069
      @MyGuy42069 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      That last part of your comment is absolutely incorrect. I don’t want blood thirsty communists or violent criminals to have firearms so I’m going to be critical of them.

    • @azcactus2008
      @azcactus2008 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@MyGuy42069 I didn’t think it was necessary to identify “gun owners“ as being law abiding citizens. Common sense would tell you I am not defending criminals, or evil doers of any kind. Does that clear it up for you?

    • @MadGunny
      @MadGunny ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@MyGuy42069 what are you even going on about? 😂🤦🏽‍♂️

    • @markcoveryourassets
      @markcoveryourassets ปีที่แล้ว +2

      And I can see how doing the same for a stored but near-ready pistol might be safer and certainly consistent for your training. On body, I'm on the chambered side for now... I carry a brace of muzzle loading, dueling pistols as my EDC 😂

  • @Jkitz1003
    @Jkitz1003 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    That part about carrying without a round chambered with the firing pin or hammer back constantly checking if it went off gave me a lot of confidence when I first started to carry some of the best advice I’ve heard for beginners

    • @No_Way_NO_WAY
      @No_Way_NO_WAY ปีที่แล้ว +1

      and if you have money to burn, buy a second one, load it with blanks and put it in the washing mashine for a couple of dry runs. *laughs* if it survives that without dischargin, you can get into a car crash and dont have to fear it going off.
      When i was in the Bundeswehr, they where using the UZI MP. We had a saying: If you are out of grenades and the enemy is in a room next door, full mag in, saftey on and throw it inside and wait til the mag is empty.

  • @Pete-gx4fz
    @Pete-gx4fz ปีที่แล้ว +13

    The most 'at the ready' a pistol can be in is chambered round, hammer back and in a passive restraint holster. That also happens to be the most susceptible to unintentional discharge or being relieved of your weapon. The safest position would be empty chamber, resting striker, and in a level 3 holster with multiple active restraints...and, as you would guess, this is the least effective state of readiness for quick action. Every individual needs to balance the risks against the readiness. I try to balance the risks with the likelihood of the threat. I carry in the safest position because I feel that the ready condition is balanced against my threats. I am a private, law abiding citizen. I don't go to bad parts of town, I have private transportation and I usually go to fairly banal places. Basically, I feel my risk is low to be surprised by an assailant who incapacitates my non-gun hand which necessitates bringing the firearm into action one handed. Accidently shooting my wife, kids or some innocent passerby because I feel the need to be at a high state of readiness for a low-likelihood threat is an unnecessary risk for me. You can disagree with my risk assessment but I don't care since I would live with the consequences. I feel my most likely threat is a routine trip to some place suddenly becoming an existential threat, i.e. active shooter, hold up, etc... Should such a situation unfold, I am either an immediate victim or I have some amount of time to react. If I am traveling alone and I need to use a deserted rest stop in the middle of the night I'm sure I would increase the state of readiness.

    • @gregvetter5070
      @gregvetter5070 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's a great comment. Makes perfect sense to me.
      Peace!

    • @txmxer
      @txmxer 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      THIS! 100x over. So many people are convinced they are going out to an active shooter event when reality is they are more likely to have an AD than a defensive use MOST of the time. At 56, I own guns, prior service, shoot guns, yet NEVER felt like I needed a gun to defend myself or my family. Not saying it cannot happen, but I know personally of multiple people that have been injured/killed by firearms by accident or choice (suicide). I don't know anyone that has used a gun defensively effectively in civilian life.
      I'm not saying that nobody is competent to carry in the highest state of readiness, but from what I know of people that are ACTUALLY in that circumstance (combat veterans), it is an absolute mental toll to be at peak readiness. What that means is so many people believe they need to be a the highest state of readiness, arm themselves that way, but they are not truly in that mindset.

    • @randyrowland6744
      @randyrowland6744 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Good post.

  • @princessalaina4589
    @princessalaina4589 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    All of these instruction videos are worth their weight in gold! Thanks bunches to Massad and Wilson Combat for producing them.

  • @1001CP
    @1001CP ปีที่แล้ว +41

    Always do what you feel comfortable with. I had friends in the Israeli Army and they did their thing and I carried with a round chambered. Mil contractor and on the police dept for 30yrs and always had one chambered BUT you do what id your SOP and TRAIN that way. Just my humble opinion. Stay safe my friends.

    • @ez56789
      @ez56789 ปีที่แล้ว

      If youre in a warzone youre probably owb carrying and retarded to not carry hot. Civy side in a non combat zone country is another story. Use your fuckin head.

  • @oklahomahank2378
    @oklahomahank2378 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    When concealed carry first became legal in my state very few of us were used to carrying. The whole idea was new to us. This is in the late 1980s. At that time only police and private detectives could legally carry. When it was legal I carried with the striker cocked but chamber empty for months. Every night I would check the trigger. It had never fired. So then I had the courage to start carrying with one in the chamber. As he suggests, I also carried a revolver sometimes.

    • @dannyrowe6720
      @dannyrowe6720 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Not bad. For folks who haven't grown up with a gun in their hand, it sounds like a great way to train in trigger discipline

    • @angelwithbrokenwings2456
      @angelwithbrokenwings2456 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@dannyrowe6720 no

    • @dthompsont3796
      @dthompsont3796 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That is exactly what I did. I carried fir months with the chamber empty but cocked. Never once had an issue with it so now I carry loaded ad ready every single day.

  • @darincarter7098
    @darincarter7098 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Mr. Massad Ayoob I completely agree! If you can't make the weapon you carry keep you safe, choose a different weapon or technic! I bought your 1st book years ago and I still read it and share with my family and friends that come to my home to shoot!

  • @rcnelson
    @rcnelson ปีที่แล้ว +40

    This man is the Einstein of gunnery.

  • @JJKrobo
    @JJKrobo ปีที่แล้ว +88

    Thank you for this video. I'm a new concealed carry person and was a bit leery of having a loaded chamber. That was one of my concerns. You made it clear to me

    • @aaronfarr4753
      @aaronfarr4753 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      While I understand your reluctance to carry with a loaded chamber being new to the world of concealed carry. I would highly suggest you go watch all the videos of defensive failures due to not having a loaded chamber. There’s tons available on this platform.
      One of the the best cures for your fear will be watching the video of the store owner and his son both unable to chamber a round in the same gun during the stress of an armed robbery and knowing that this failure got them both killed. Or the same situation in an Oklahoma liquor store almost getting both a mother and daughter killed.
      Think of it this way, not carrying a round in the chamber is the same as not wearing a seatbelt because you are convinced that you will have the time and motor skills to put it on before a crash. No matter how long you have owned, handled and shot firearms, or how much you have trained for life and death situations. During the high stress of a defensive encounter your strength and even unconscious muscle memory can and more often than not will fall you at the most critical moment because your brain is overwhelmed by the shock, you probably will get tunnel vision and your brain will only be able to concentrate on the most simple of automatic actions such as pointing the gun at the danger and pulling the trigger.
      A prime example is to watch videos or look up statistics of shootouts involving highly trained and competent police officers, some of whom are absolute wizards with a gun during training and range time and could shoot a flea off a dogs ass at 50 yards with their service weapon under normal circumstances. However during the stress of a shootout they can fire ten rounds for every one hit and sometimes do entire mag dumps without hitting the person shooting at them once.
      Sometimes even remembering to take a manual safety off is impossible unless you have trained so much that it has become part of your draw and as much of a reflexive action as breathing. This is why Glocks and other point and shoot pistols without manual safety have become so popular for defensive carry. It’s also why I personally consider them so unsafe, you don’t have the intermediate step of removing the safety between holster and shot for your brain to catch up enough to make the critical decision to shoot or not.

    • @mastersequence5838
      @mastersequence5838 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Your holster is your safety. Buy a good one! Completely cover that trigger guard.

    • @aaronfarr4753
      @aaronfarr4753 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@mastersequence5838 most half assed reply award goes to you. You get 50 points for saying buy a quality holster but you still end up at zero because you started out at negative 50 by saying your holster is your safety 🤪

    • @aaronfarr4753
      @aaronfarr4753 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@PocketDelicious True a quality holster is important and I said it’s part of the complete package.

    • @whereRbearsTeeth
      @whereRbearsTeeth ปีที่แล้ว

      @@aaronfarr4753 your response is one of the dumbest comments I’ve read in a while.

  • @kitsune303
    @kitsune303 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Wow, you've changed my mind on both the condition of my long guns and my EDC handgun. I was exactly backwards. So very authoritative and well explained. Thanks.

    • @davids5006
      @davids5006 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah my long guns stay chambered. Oops

    • @US2A
      @US2A ปีที่แล้ว

      Here is the thing, I'm assuming he's talking about factory pistols, so many people customizing them your losing the drop safe. Know body talks about that

  • @kelrik9968
    @kelrik9968 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I'm currently in the middle of reading a pretty good book about preparing/training for self defense, and one of the points the author makes over & over is that for a technique - regardless of what type of weapon - to really be valid, the trainer should be able to explain WHY it works, not just say "well, it's the way I train in my class." So this video popped up randomly on my YT and first thing after relaying the question, he immediately goes into both the "why" and the "why" it used to be done differently. I'm already familiar with the Massad Ayoob name & firearms training, so it really is no surprise. Just demonstrated the point the author was making quite nicely.

  • @DvCM
    @DvCM ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Thank you, Mas. When I have been pushed to explain why I carry with a chambered round, I've said that the time it takes to draw and chamber a round is too long and it makes a warning noise, too. It sounds like I'm making excuses for being weak and slow and probably shouldn't be carrying at all. Well, I am an LOL (little old lady), so they have a point there, but I prefer to remain among the quick than be dead. Thanks for the 'ammo'.

    • @realPromotememedia
      @realPromotememedia ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Seriously though? I mean how many times does a little old lady or civilian need to be a Wild West gunfighter reactive shooter? An owner in a liquor joint with an Under counter pistol, sure. Walking down the street you’ve got to be quick on the draw? I doubt ever. In fact, any one or all three stages of pulling a gun, priming it and pointing it are probably the best deterrents and negate 999/1000 shots ever being fired. I’d really like to hear a real life civilian scenario where you had to be fast on the draw *and fire* to survive. Doesn’t happen. I’m excluding military and unlawful scenarios, like you’re buying drugs. Normal regular people like me only

    • @srobertweiser
      @srobertweiser ปีที่แล้ว

      @@realPromotememedia I know, right? Weak, little old ladies are never victimized by predators. I guarantee there's never been one single documented case. You're absolutely right, she should just disarm herself right now and hope the police are on the spot when she needs them. She's probably buying drugs anyway.

    • @jasonpearce6322
      @jasonpearce6322 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@realPromotememedia I have investigated multiple shootings where the person attacked didn’t have time to chamber a round. One in particular a road rage incident in the city i work. Me and three other offices responded to a shooting in the roadway. A crash occurred and the person hit jumped out of his car and began punching the old man in that ran into his car in the face through his open window. The guy then started choking and punching him. The old man pulled a 1911 in condition one from a inside the waistband holster with one hand and shot the guy in the chest. After the first shot the guy spun and the second shot hit him in the back and he fell dead in the road. No way he could have done that without a round in the chamber.

  • @justyouraveragejoe7359
    @justyouraveragejoe7359 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Mr. Ayoob, thank you for clearing that up for me. My best friend told me the opposite, which left me questioning myself. Enjoy your channel, and thanks for your time and sharing your knowledge.

  • @elwoogie1963
    @elwoogie1963 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Retired cop here, always keep a round chambered in the handgun, especially my ccw, empty chamber in the long gun (either rifle or shotgun). My reason is the handgun is the quick reaction weapon, however in home defense and a long gun can be retrieved in time, chambering a round is the only warning a perp is going to get. IMHO a pump action is perfect for this, loud and unmistakable.

  • @richpena2668
    @richpena2668 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video. Im 70 years old, been around guns a long time and every time I watch one of your videos I always learn something from you. So thank you, keep them coming.

  • @Sheepdog1314
    @Sheepdog1314 ปีที่แล้ว +73

    as a former police officer I can only say: I needed to have my side-arm ready at all times. And totally agree on the long-gun empty chamber.

    • @ez56789
      @ez56789 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      As a civy, do you disagree that situational awareness and avoiding high risk situations, ie, if you feel you need around chambered where youre going, you probably shouldnt go there in the first place?

    • @BasedHyperborean
      @BasedHyperborean ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ez56789 yeah that's blatantly stupid. Load your gun.

    • @chazz6348
      @chazz6348 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ez56789
      Avoiding the risk is absolutely the first thing to do

    • @glmorten
      @glmorten ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@ez56789 Always best to have it and not need it then to need it and not have it. Thats my opinion anyways.

    • @Jonathan906
      @Jonathan906 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@ez56789 Crime often happens in low risk situations

  • @TheAxe4Ever
    @TheAxe4Ever ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I have to be honest, I used to be really concerned about carrying my firearm with a loaded chamber when I switched to appendix carry. I had no problems and never gave it a thought with strongside carry. I did it for years and never did I have an ND or any other mishap. But there was something g about carrying appendix that made me nervous. That mental block. I carried chambered of course, but it seemed like I would sweat it all day. Especially when sitting down or bending over. I could just feel the muzzle in spots that just don’t feel natural for a muzzle to be. It came down to my lack of training and practice after I switched. Whenever you introduce a new tool or system, you should seek out a good instructor and train for that specific system or piece of gear and practice your ass off. Now, a year into carrying appendix position and it’s all good now.

    • @1992djg
      @1992djg ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Appendix is hard because it goes against the basic rules of firearms you will have a barrel pointed at yourself and you have to trust yourself and the firearm 100%

  • @nicosheers1112
    @nicosheers1112 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    It's always great to get your advice. This issue has bothered me for a while, thank you.

  • @grahamsoar
    @grahamsoar ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good stuff... will come back here!! Always worry about a fault or discharge on my 1911 carrying loaded

  • @DDDYLN
    @DDDYLN ปีที่แล้ว +33

    Thank you for this video. My carry pistols are drop safe, with manual lever safeties. I did not know that modern AR-15's were not drop safe. This was very informative.

    • @logan5326
      @logan5326 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yes; they are not!
      Be careful out there. 👊🏻

  • @jamesrandall3192
    @jamesrandall3192 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Such great information from Massad. Have been reading his articles for years. Thanks a million for sharing your expertise.

  • @christopherjones8149
    @christopherjones8149 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I personally carry with one in the chamber, with most shootouts kicking off in under.01 seconds, there's not a lot of time to rack one I'm the chamber.

    • @OOICU812
      @OOICU812 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not to mention needing the need to involve your other hand that might be needed for some other purpose.

    • @CaptainYesz
      @CaptainYesz ปีที่แล้ว

      I heard things happen under 0.0001 seconds. You can never be too safe.

  • @indianboy72
    @indianboy72 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have been Watching this man since the ‘80’s. When I would get Shotgun news on the regular. He was also in gun’s and ammo a lot. I’ve enjoyed and Learned from your writings for years. Thanks for being such a wealth of knowledge.

    • @Rmstrjim
      @Rmstrjim 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I remember reading countless articles Mas wrote in the 90's in various magazines and have always appreciated his no-nonsense approach to disseminating some of the most useful information for practical firearms use available anywhere. This man is truly a treasure. ❤

  • @royjones59344
    @royjones59344 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I've been around guns my whole life and own several AR's but never gave any thought to storing them loaded. I've taken all the rounds out of the chambers thanks to this video. Great content

  • @jaimesoto7557
    @jaimesoto7557 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    As usual, you are one hell of a source for the information needed out here, thank you.

  • @cmibt
    @cmibt ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I was hesitant to carry with one in the chamber until I read a cool trick from someone that worked for me: buy some snapcaps or dummy rounds and carry with one of those in the chamber. That will help you break the stigma of having one in the chamber and you can then move to live ammunition. Worked for me and now I'm comfortable carrying my P01.

    • @diztens4678
      @diztens4678 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Great simple idea I don't know why I never thought of this

    • @mtnride4930
      @mtnride4930 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Love my P-01 cajunized, stainless guide rod, cerakoted, lok grips and new sights

    • @AndyDrake-FOOKYT
      @AndyDrake-FOOKYT ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Like massad said...carry it around the house empty for a while and if you never hear it go 'click' you'll feel a lot better about it.

    • @napsguns
      @napsguns ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@simonkeen9776 that's the point of the snap cap, you'll see the mark on it eventually, even if you don't keep track of the hammer/striker

    • @napsguns
      @napsguns ปีที่แล้ว +1

      the idea being of course to never see a mark on it

  • @patbullard9276
    @patbullard9276 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I cover the bases both ways. My two carry pistols are an S&W 642 revolver pocket carried fully loaded and a G27 holstered and fully loaded. In the past I was carrying with empty chambers but thanks to Massad and other trusted experts I was converted.

  • @175Larry
    @175Larry ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great advice! Makes imminent sense. Confirms all my training (32 years in LE). Thanks.

  • @vinconco
    @vinconco ปีที่แล้ว +31

    For my wife and I kids changed the equation so we carried revolvers when the kids were very small. By the time they were big enough to defeat the double action pull, they were safety trained. My wife still carries a revolver in a "carry purse",

    • @readinessforge
      @readinessforge ปีที่แล้ว

      Same, our staged guns were her a DA/SA 38 special and mine a 1911 Government all of our carry striker fire guns go in the safe at night, to his point we keep the ARs aircraft staged loaded with the bolt locked back

  • @wa1ufo
    @wa1ufo ปีที่แล้ว +26

    If a really bad guy or guys have gotten into your house they are listening to find your location. If you need to rack your pistol to chamber a round it could give away your position. You don't want that! Thank you for another great video!

    • @lobsterwithhisshouldersbac8368
      @lobsterwithhisshouldersbac8368 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Or they’ll hear the rack and leave. You watch too many movies.

    • @why3011
      @why3011 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@lobsterwithhisshouldersbac8368 that's also a trope, so you must watch TV too

    • @user-ex9zm7bg3x
      @user-ex9zm7bg3x ปีที่แล้ว

      Good luck with that@@lobsterwithhisshouldersbac8368

  • @gradybird3336
    @gradybird3336 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Mas, I've been a fan for years. I have a female friend who just bought her first handgun and obtained her carry permit. I sent her this video just in case she got nervous about carrying one in the chamber. You truly are a guru!

  • @lr22same47
    @lr22same47 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    You never disappoint, thank you for your insights.

  • @Snookynibbles
    @Snookynibbles ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Among the two more popular prescribed defensive handguns are the Glock model 19 filling the automating pistol roll, and the Smith & Wesson Model 686 with a 4” barrel (chambered in .357 magnum, but typically loaded with 38 Spl ammunition). You won’t go wrong with either.

    • @6582rg
      @6582rg ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Love the 686. I used to carry a 586 on-duty until 1988 when I changed to Glock. Fine revolvers for sure.

    • @makatron
      @makatron ปีที่แล้ว +1

      G19 is the corolla if guns, if you don't go nuts modifying it, it'll be reliable.

    • @g.t.richardson6311
      @g.t.richardson6311 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Revolver for me

    • @aj897
      @aj897 ปีที่แล้ว

      Rather carry 9mm or .40 than 38 Spl

    • @aj897
      @aj897 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@makatron Built my G19 from the frame up, it's modified and reliable lol
      Edit: Ammo and lubrication matter more to reliability than people think too

  • @HauteModesty
    @HauteModesty ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I’ve always been nervous about negligent discharge even though I’ve been regularly training for over 3 decades. I think it’s a mental confidence that I needed and believe it or not, visualization and meditation has helped me become more confident at the thought that having a round in the chamber is safe as long as I follow the most important rules of gun safety and that is keep your fingers off the trigger until ready to shoot and make sure before that happens that I have the muzzle pointed at what I intend to destroy. Thank you for the video!

  • @rxotmfrxotmf8208
    @rxotmfrxotmf8208 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Boy, Mr. Massad Ayoob is giving really good advice, and backing up his advice with facts and statistics. Thank you, Sir!

  • @Batko10
    @Batko10 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I'm in 100% agreement with this video. As a former police officer in NYC in the 1970's and 1980's my duty weapon was a S&W Model 10, .38 caliber, 4 inch barrel revolver. So, I was a revolver guy all my life until my son went on the job. Like virtually all law enforcement agencies, his department switched from revolvers to semi-autos long before he joined. After practicing with his duty weapon I decided to get a GLOCK22 (.40 cal). I never had any innate fear of carrying with one in the chamber after a few practice sessions and getting familiarized with the weapon. My holster covers the trigger and, as Massad pointed out in the video, GLOCKs and all quality modern semi-autos are drop safe. My AK-47 is stored unloaded with 5 loaded 30 round mags next to it. It only takes a second to load a mag and pull the charging handle if a rifle is needed.

  • @wendya.presley7316
    @wendya.presley7316 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    This has helped me so much w edc, had no teacher besides Massad, may have very well saved my life and kept me outta prison

    • @GeauxRussGeaux
      @GeauxRussGeaux ปีที่แล้ว +4

      You should go out into the world and seek qualify instruction from multiple sources.

    • @markcoveryourassets
      @markcoveryourassets ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I know what you mean. A salesman tipped me off with a major safety issue before I even purchased. From my experience, I do recommend you spend a few bucks and do an NRA inside the home training and their outside the home, too. There are many other classes out there. I just happened to like that one. Even when I learn something, unless I keep hearing seeing and doing it, it will fade from muscle and noggin memory. Plus it's just fun to experience different scenarios and meet folks. Fun ans safe shooting to you, brother.

    • @wendya.presley7316
      @wendya.presley7316 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@markcoveryourassets agreed definitely a great idea, I work @ my local police station, I'm gona sign up for training and get my conceal permit

  • @DonTruman
    @DonTruman ปีที่แล้ว +37

    I asked a pistol range owner about this. He was open carrying, and he said he doesn't keep a round in the chamber. His reasoning: thinks he can rack it very fast (though Massad makes good points that might not work so well in a real situation) and then an interesting one: if someone were to take the gun from him they'd try to fire it, it wouldn't work, then they'd probably look for a safety, then rack it, and in that time he'd have time to either attack him or flee.

    • @mattk1358
      @mattk1358 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      That's a pretty dumb reason because if you're worried about the guy taking the gun you should just get one with a safety and still keep it loaded because you can still operate it one-handed. I would go to so far as to say this doesn't make any sense at all.

    • @thedude5449
      @thedude5449 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      That man is a doofus.

    • @richieewinns
      @richieewinns ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Well the problem there is he is open carrying. It is tactically inferior to open carry in public vs. conceal carrying. That isn't opinion, but simple fact. The only times I'd open carry is on private property, at the range training, or within my own home.
      1. Advertising what you're packing.
      2. Not all businesses allow open carry hence 30.07.
      3. thugs will know to target you first.
      4. Theft unless you carry an active retention, but c'mon, at that point you're dressed as a peace officer and hardly an outfit for the movies.
      5. Impeded draw within tight spaces or your vehicle.
      If you ask me, that is just mental gymnastics to convince himself carrying openly without one in the chamber is good enough when in fact, it ain't. Plenty of self defense scenarios occurred and not one I've seen someone draw and rack then aim. It was always draw and shoot.

    • @paul1858
      @paul1858 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      ​​@@richieewinns "it is tactically inferior!" 🤓🤓

    • @johngross8300
      @johngross8300 ปีที่แล้ว

      That’s dumb.

  • @labdwakin
    @labdwakin 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Mr Ayoob, thank you SO MUCH for verbalizing this in a public format! I've been preaching this for YEARS.

  • @KTMitchell1953
    @KTMitchell1953 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I always learn something from watching Massad's videos. His information is concise and always offers a thought provoking perspective on all things related to firearms. 👍

  • @beckderm
    @beckderm ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Do what is comfortably for one self.

    • @c.h.u.d
      @c.h.u.d ปีที่แล้ว

      You can be comfortably dead ☠️☠️

  • @CuttinEJ
    @CuttinEJ ปีที่แล้ว +31

    My first experience with this subject was as a young boy hunting. We didn’t load until we had crossed all the fences and creeks. This mentality was reinforced when I joined the Marine Corps. There are times and places and circumstances where it is appropriate to be locked and loaded. There are also times when it is not appropriate. In today’s world the times, places and circumstances where an empty chamber is appropriate are rapidly shrinking. I still err on the side of caution when that is most appropriate, but I also train for immediate action, one hand and weak hand shooting. I’m glad you mentioned the reason why the Israelis train the way they do. While it does demonstrate that it can be done, it also requires serious training to be performed reliably. I find myself carrying with a round in the chamber much more now than I ever did at any point in my life, but there are still times, places and circumstances where clear is more appropriate than locked and loaded.

    • @GodGunsGills
      @GodGunsGills ปีที่แล้ว +6

      There's no place to be not locked and loaded in today's world

    • @CuttinEJ
      @CuttinEJ ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@GodGunsGills in my own home, with the doors locked and my grandkids running around. There are some relatively safe places where you have no reasonable expectation of threat or danger. Almost anywhere out in public nowadays is a different story.

    • @TakeTheRide
      @TakeTheRide ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@CuttinEJ if people knew that someone was going to break into their home, then it probably wouldn't happen. You just never know.

    • @CuttinEJ
      @CuttinEJ ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@TakeTheRide, all I’m saying is that sometimes the threat level is so low that it’s ok to relax a little bit. I’m not an absolutist. I don’t insist on anyone following my personal choices. I just think there are arguments to be made for both sides. And, as I mentioned previously, the places in public where I find an empty chamber appropriate are rapidly shrinking.

    • @TakeTheRide
      @TakeTheRide ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@CuttinEJ I do agree with you. The world is just getting so weird and the psychos look like the average Joe. The criminals and the psychopaths are bolder then ever before. Whole families with innocent children being shot in their own home by a stranger. It seems unfathomable but it does happen.

  • @Akula114
    @Akula114 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    For quite a few years I have read and benefited from Massad Ayoob's writings of firearms safety and responsible use. This man never ceases to amaze me with his insight and brilliant reasoning. Sure, having a protective firearm is good for the responsible citizen. But having Masaad Ayoob's relentless intelligence is vital.

  • @williamgoe3657
    @williamgoe3657 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Agreed 100%, my idea was that if I need to draw and shoot someone, I need it to be as easy as possible. I do have a safety on my Beretta, but I practice flipping off the safety on the way from my gun hidden to fire position. I do this every time....every time. Great Vid, Massad!

    • @gabem6863
      @gabem6863 ปีที่แล้ว

      Great idea. Need to start doing the same with my handguns.

  • @zackaryhaddon5445
    @zackaryhaddon5445 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This was the most comprehensive and concise reasoning and explanation I’ve seen yet. Looking forward to learning more from this quality channel - thank you!

  • @allenbolen9705
    @allenbolen9705 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have a single and double action auto. The first shot is the long double action pull. It’s easy to stage it to single action if you anticipate trouble. Practice the double and single action trigger pull!

  • @themightycrixus1131
    @themightycrixus1131 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Mr. Ayoob is such a resource. Thank you so much for all these informative videos

  • @tonyv8925
    @tonyv8925 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Excellent points given. My home defense firearm is live round in the chamber...it is drop safe. If I were to EDC I would carry live round in the chamber...time is the essence of life or death, you may only have a few seconds, under stress, to bring your firearm into action. Thank you for this video.

  • @MrRebelss
    @MrRebelss ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Absolutey agree. I've carried since '84 with a round in the chamber, and depending on which sidearm I'm carrying that day, the safety is OFF.
    When the poo hits the fan, unless you practice every day, no way will you be able to jack one in the chamber, much less take the saftey off., when the threat is in your face with a firearm. Yoiu can't ask the perp to "Hold on; I need to load a round"...May I add I always carry in a retention holster, and you should practice hitting that"button" and drawing your EMPTY sidearm from it in one quick, smooth motion. 30 years in law enforcment, high-end government security, and years of training has me carrying safely. Face it, you're carrying to neutralize the threat, and if you're worried or concerned about having a live round in the chamber, you probably should look for another means of protection.

    • @txmxer
      @txmxer 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      How many threats have you neutralized in 40 years?

  • @bobailanjian3700
    @bobailanjian3700 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Mas brings common sense to the table better than anyone out there. Perfect collaboration of knowledge and experience.

  • @salimoneus
    @salimoneus ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Have followed these practices for many years, glad to hear them reaffirmed by one of the best. Great vid!

  • @jrf5418
    @jrf5418 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I can here Massad, Bill and Ken all day long, awesome conversations and wisdom. Thank you.

    • @akhan3682
      @akhan3682 ปีที่แล้ว

      Except can't spell

    • @jrf5418
      @jrf5418 ปีที่แล้ว

      You got it didn’t you? Spell check but Thanks for the lesson, much appreciated. Hope I spelled everything ok.

  • @LukeinTX
    @LukeinTX ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Excellent video. I always carry locked and loaded. You’re not ready for combat if you don’t. When the bad guy sees you draw he’s going to try beat your first shot, you can’t let him have that.

    • @Jaco3688
      @Jaco3688 ปีที่แล้ว

      The bad guy will usually give you a sporting chance to rack the slide

    • @BBaldwin
      @BBaldwin ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Jaco3688Nonsense. Carrying with an empty chamber is irresponsible.

    • @KrownRoyal
      @KrownRoyal ปีที่แล้ว

      You’ve never even been in a shootout calm down

  • @gmhoward
    @gmhoward ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I love the advice about building confidence. Nothing like practicing with an empty weapon and verifying all portions of carry will be completely safe. I know I've gotten a few holsters with a thread caught in them before.

  • @effeojnedib7208
    @effeojnedib7208 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Thanks for your video. I've thankfully never had to draw a firearm, or weapon on a human. But I have been in enough fights over the years to confirm to myself, a round in the chamber, ready to fire with 1 hand. When the poop goes down, it seldom happens as expected and one hand will likely be occupied grappling or defending. Or in this day in time, on the cell phone, calling for help. Also, as I've gotten into my 60's, I find a nice solid walking cane beneficial. I use it on my heavy bag too, when training. It's very possible one of my hands is on the cane during an attack.

  • @Rzagski
    @Rzagski ปีที่แล้ว +19

    My main carry for many years was a commander style 1911. When a buddy of mine observed me carrying he asked if I carried with one in the chamber. When I said no, he replied “ God and John Browning designed that gun to be carried cocked and locked”. Enough said, this simple statement from a retired Marine, NRA instructor, three gun shooter, justice department investigator and private contractor changed my paradigm.

    • @thegreatestmantoevrwlkthep9986
      @thegreatestmantoevrwlkthep9986 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Did you two get married

    • @johnjohnsn7633
      @johnjohnsn7633 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Actually, the M1911 is the version the Army demanded during their Pistol Trials, as they wanted a Safety Lever to allow the weapon to be carried "Cocked & Locked". His first submission, the M1910, was designed to be carried with a Round chambered and the Hammer cocked, depending on the Grip Safety to keep the pistol from discharging except when in the Firer's hand and the Grip Safety being depressed. Browning acquiesced to the Army's demands and added the Thumb-actuated Safety Lever, designating the new version as Model M1911. Despite the Army's "safety" machinations, they ended up mandating carrying the pistol with a loaded Magazine, empty Chamber and Hammer down. 😐

    • @nfaisnfgay
      @nfaisnfgay ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheCreatedOnesThe dude who designed the gun said it should be carried chambered… I’d think the fella would know…
      You’re just a goober, sorry bud.

  • @gunnerbhb50
    @gunnerbhb50 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I carry an Israeli Jericho 941 9mm and i know for a fact that it's drop safe (not me but a buddy dropped it on the range) and its my EDC that i always carry with one in the chamber. Thank you Massad for what you do as I've been following you even when you were writing for guns and ammo.

  • @Supertrack238
    @Supertrack238 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Trigger discipline... if you have that, you'll be confident in carrying "hot". Been carrying for years, and mine has never gone bang all by itself.

    • @US2A
      @US2A ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's other things that make it go bang

  • @eugenebalakirov7614
    @eugenebalakirov7614 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Situational awareness is the most important thing! If you caught by surprise, time is not on your side whether chambered or not.

    • @trueword247
      @trueword247 ปีที่แล้ว

      23+ years in LE here and I tell people this anytime I'm asked.
      Situational awareness is LITERALLY BETTER THAN having a firearm.

    • @sergiolopez571
      @sergiolopez571 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@trueword247I disagree, there’s plenty of cases where situational awareness alone isn’t enough to guarantee your own safety, what happens when your actions/open space are limited for any reason?

  • @bikerbobcat
    @bikerbobcat ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I'm still pretty new to firearms ownership and I learn SO much more from this channel and Paul Harrell than I do any of the excitable gun bros combined. I'm still getting used to my EDC pistol (Ruger Security 9 compact) and carrying with a round in is still weird. I had not, however, heard or considered my home AR to not be drop safe! Learned something new. Going to re-evaluate how I store that. Good video boss. If you're ever in DC, look me up and I'll buy you a pint.

    • @twatmunro
      @twatmunro ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Paul Harrell is a treasure.

    • @chubbycatfish4573
      @chubbycatfish4573 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's not just the AR. Most rifles and shotguns aren't drop safe. And Paul Harrell is the best!

  • @user-fz2ul7wl2d
    @user-fz2ul7wl2d 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This man speaks with so much confidence and experience.

  • @sunhawk61
    @sunhawk61 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    I have been carrying my Glock loaded, round chambered for over 35 years. Never had an accidental discharge, never dropped it. The plan is, ready when you need it now. Have faith in your firearm, have faith in yourself.

    • @etherealicer
      @etherealicer ปีที่แล้ว

      Nah man... no faith. Test it! Drop the gun a dozen times, see what happens. Slap it all over the place with a rubber mallet. Test it yourself. Remember, guns are the only consumer item where no government agency can issue a recall or even a warning. And NRA is certainly not gonna tell you (I mean did they when Taurus guns where accidentally go off and killed people? No, they helped Taurus to keep it quiet.).

    • @ralphholiman7401
      @ralphholiman7401 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same here. If carrying my pistols with a round in the chamber was a problem, at 65 years old I think I would have found out about it by now.

    • @nikdrown
      @nikdrown ปีที่แล้ว

      Word. Except the Glock part lol. But all good

    • @etherealicer
      @etherealicer ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ralphholiman7401 Wrong conclusion. Guns are mechanical... mechanical stuff wears out. So, chance of a failure increases over time. The gun does not get safer because nothing happened to this point.

    • @ralphholiman7401
      @ralphholiman7401 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@etherealicer , I currently carry a Glock 19. Do you know of one single event where a Glock pistol just went off without anyone pulling the trigger? I only ask because I was a federal agent for 21 years, in two different agencies, with over 20,000 agents in them combined, where semi-auto pistols (most of them Glocks) were issued, and carrying the gun with a round in the chamber was mandated, and we had a database of every shooting incident by year, and I don't know of one single instance of a gun just firing, without the trigger being pulled. In fact in my second agency, we had five agents killed when their plane slammed into the side.of a mountain, and when they were recovered, while the plane was in small pieces, all five of their Glocks were undamaged and could have been reissued. And, our guns got shot a lot more than the average owners. Ultimately as this demonstrates, carrying with a live round in the chamber is a confidence issue of the shooter, not a safety or mechanical issue of the gun. The primary safety sits on top of your spinal cord. When you are confident of your ability to safely operate your firearm, you will not worry about it just going off. Massad Ayoob is not exactly going off into crazy town here,. I can't think of one single qualified and experienced trainer (outside of Israel) who advocates carrying a gun without a round in the chamber. I will admit the Israelis do this. But, I was over in Israel for 2 weeks on a training mission several years ago (not firearms related) with the Israeli police. One night I was in a bar with four of them, and I asked them, "Hey, why do you guys carry your guns without a round in the chamber?" Their answer? "Because, they tell us to."

  • @BayAreaCowboy
    @BayAreaCowboy ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great video. You might consider adding to the revolver as Single Action Double Action like a CZ PO1 - PO7 - Beretta 92

    • @Grooove_e
      @Grooove_e ปีที่แล้ว

      DA/SA is my choice for concealed carry. I like striker fired guns and I'm sure they're probably just as safe as hammer fired nowadays. I just like that with my 92 or my PX4 Storm Compact (in a proper holster) and with their firing pin block I can have the saftey off and have 100% confidence they will not go off unless the trigger is pulled.

  • @profit-engine8001
    @profit-engine8001 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I am often amazed by people (even military) who are still afraid to carry their EDC chambered. My EDC has been loaded since the day I bought it over a decade ago, it has been dropped 2-3 times over that period, no problems. Thanks for doing this video!

    • @SS-fb7zd
      @SS-fb7zd ปีที่แล้ว

      @@raytrammell9452 better be woke plenty of minorities in there and they not trying to hear bs