I feel like the way people will try adapt to the stance change thing is by using the glass armor ambush during blockstrings or combos to ensure Khameleon has the right move ready when you need it. I saw TheWayneNumber1 demonstrate something like this on Twitter, the fast recharge seems to help with that. I do agree that being able to deal with the stance cycling is what will make or break this kameo for competitive purposes, regardless of the character you're using. For Smoke specifically I want to keep looking into how Khameleon might help with pressure and mix, specially while invincible. As of right now, I think she gives enough to Smoke to be useful even if she's not the absolute best choice for him, as long as you're able to deal with the limited stances, of course. Then again, with Smoke's kameos you usually sacrifice something in exchange for what you get from them, like damage, safety, convertions, setups, etc., which is what makes him such an interesting character and IMO one of the best examples of MK1's design philosophy. Still, very excited to see how the game develops after this. Can't wait to see you try Ermac 👍
Yess i super agree. It definitely seems like the recharge is fast enough that you can easily manage it during strings and stuff. And oooh TheWayne usually posts cool Smoke clips so ill have to check his feed. And yea it really is going to be the most important part of the kameo to get used to. It seems Tremor's switch ended up being too difficult or slow to manage for most players, but I definitely think Khameleon has the potential to be much more widespread, especially with all the stuff the fan lift can give, plus all the other moves. Yup imma definitely keep exploring khameleon for Smoke, and like you said, specifically pressure and invisibility situations. The fan lift cancels invisibility but there will still be setups there, especially with the Mileena OH and how good the range is. I agree with everything you said about Smoke exemplifying the design philosophy of the game. Hes definitely one of the best designed characters in this game and how well he meshes with so many different kameos makes him super interesting to play and experiment with. With all the stuff I've seen from khameleon already, I'm also excited to see where the meta goes. She gives so many weird and unique options, I think you could have several different characters who would all use her differently from each other, compared to how most characters use Lao or pre-patch Cyrax to do the same 1 or 2 things. And niceeee I am stoked for Ermac. I played Spectral Ermac in MKX and im really hopeful that MK1 Ermac gets some weird flashy fly/levitate combos and pressure options but we will see. The direction they're going with Tremor and Khameleon makes me really interested in Ferra and what crazy mechanic she's going to have, as well as the remaining kameos.
Hell yea im glad you had fun too! I can't commit to any kinda regular stream schedule but id definitely like to do it again! Maybe a lab stream or a kombat league/casual matches stream
Yea I can't remember if I said that in the vid but I remember discovering that on stream since it doesn't connect in the corner. The ball roll mix is really good tho, especially with a character like Smoke who can really overwhelm the opponents mental stack with all the stuff they've gotta look out for
@@PewPewShootEmUp nah you're good, it happens lol I posted a Smoke/Khameleon combo short today tho actually. It's a cool but goofy looking combo that I bet you've never seen before lol
I looked that up and it sounds like that's a paid service to get views, which I'm not interested in. But thanks for watching if youre not just a spam bot advertising lmao
Honestly, she is super fun if nothing else. She lets you do things that no other kameo does. And you're right, the pressure is pretty crazy between the Mileena OH, and the Jade Glaive which is just better Sareena blades. But the Fan Lift is the funnest thing about her imo
I main Smoke with Khameleon I used to use Scorpion, and I'm in God rank she's really fun and works really well with him many different meterless and one bar 40-47% combos
I still prefer Sektor, but she's been really fun to explore. The tons of combo variety you get with her is my favorite part, especially since like you said its really good damage. I honestly think the best aspect of her for Smoke is the Kitana form. Being able to combo from Back Throw is really good, and being able to kind of escape if you mess up a cancel is really cool as an option too
@@AwesomeBRINKS honestly all 3 are pretty good the main thing that makes her good is that even if it does switch last second let's say u do F12 1+3, all 3 cab convert, if u do back 2 into kameo 1 mixes, 1 is pressure and 1 is safe. Shadow blade anti airs are now full combos, it's just really fun, yeah sometimes the switches absolutely fuck me, like if i tele with Kitana and it switches to mileena, but it's fun so idc
@@PewPewShootEmUp Yea you are not wrong dude. And yes, I love that all 3 summon moves generally work in the same situations so its not the end of the world if she switches before you input the move. I absolutely love the Shadow Blade anti air conversions though. Literally all of the Fan Lift routes are so fucking cool. Jade is cool just cuz you get better Sareena while still having all the other cool shit from the other forms. Super cool kameo. Super fun with Smoke, I definitely need to use her more online. I just am too attached to my Sektor rockets and flameburner restands lmao
For sure. Its dope how they designed khameleon, and how I think she's going to be utilized differently by many characters. I hope its a sign that they're really thinking about how they want kameos to be and will give us a big overhaul patch in the future that brings the power level of the characters and kameos up to where everyone isn't playing the exact same 1 or 2 ways(and especially rework Raiden. Dude has so many cool moves that are just less rewarding than mashing Storm Cell) I know a lot of figureheads in the community are super doomer about the game and everything, but im super hopeful that the meta is going in a great direction and hopefully they can fix the online in the process
I feel like the way people will try adapt to the stance change thing is by using the glass armor ambush during blockstrings or combos to ensure Khameleon has the right move ready when you need it. I saw TheWayneNumber1 demonstrate something like this on Twitter, the fast recharge seems to help with that. I do agree that being able to deal with the stance cycling is what will make or break this kameo for competitive purposes, regardless of the character you're using.
For Smoke specifically I want to keep looking into how Khameleon might help with pressure and mix, specially while invincible. As of right now, I think she gives enough to Smoke to be useful even if she's not the absolute best choice for him, as long as you're able to deal with the limited stances, of course. Then again, with Smoke's kameos you usually sacrifice something in exchange for what you get from them, like damage, safety, convertions, setups, etc., which is what makes him such an interesting character and IMO one of the best examples of MK1's design philosophy. Still, very excited to see how the game develops after this. Can't wait to see you try Ermac 👍
Yess i super agree. It definitely seems like the recharge is fast enough that you can easily manage it during strings and stuff. And oooh TheWayne usually posts cool Smoke clips so ill have to check his feed.
And yea it really is going to be the most important part of the kameo to get used to. It seems Tremor's switch ended up being too difficult or slow to manage for most players, but I definitely think Khameleon has the potential to be much more widespread, especially with all the stuff the fan lift can give, plus all the other moves.
Yup imma definitely keep exploring khameleon for Smoke, and like you said, specifically pressure and invisibility situations. The fan lift cancels invisibility but there will still be setups there, especially with the Mileena OH and how good the range is.
I agree with everything you said about Smoke exemplifying the design philosophy of the game. Hes definitely one of the best designed characters in this game and how well he meshes with so many different kameos makes him super interesting to play and experiment with.
With all the stuff I've seen from khameleon already, I'm also excited to see where the meta goes. She gives so many weird and unique options, I think you could have several different characters who would all use her differently from each other, compared to how most characters use Lao or pre-patch Cyrax to do the same 1 or 2 things.
And niceeee I am stoked for Ermac. I played Spectral Ermac in MKX and im really hopeful that MK1 Ermac gets some weird flashy fly/levitate combos and pressure options but we will see.
The direction they're going with Tremor and Khameleon makes me really interested in Ferra and what crazy mechanic she's going to have, as well as the remaining kameos.
It was fun testing smoke and sub with khameleon over the livestream the other day. You should do it again every once a while
Hell yea im glad you had fun too! I can't commit to any kinda regular stream schedule but id definitely like to do it again! Maybe a lab stream or a kombat league/casual matches stream
Ball roll does combo with the F12 1+3 full screen and back 2 adds mix with ball roll too
Yea I can't remember if I said that in the vid but I remember discovering that on stream since it doesn't connect in the corner. The ball roll mix is really good tho, especially with a character like Smoke who can really overwhelm the opponents mental stack with all the stuff they've gotta look out for
@@AwesomeBRINKS yea didn't see the vid was a couple weeks old till after I commented lol my b
@@PewPewShootEmUp nah you're good, it happens lol
I posted a Smoke/Khameleon combo short today tho actually. It's a cool but goofy looking combo that I bet you've never seen before lol
This is just what i needed in my life. Wow, you need to research S M Zeus!!
I looked that up and it sounds like that's a paid service to get views, which I'm not interested in. But thanks for watching if youre not just a spam bot advertising lmao
i don’t own the kombat pack but thinking of putting some change down for khameleon for my shmoke. feel like the pressure would be insane
Honestly, she is super fun if nothing else. She lets you do things that no other kameo does. And you're right, the pressure is pretty crazy between the Mileena OH, and the Jade Glaive which is just better Sareena blades. But the Fan Lift is the funnest thing about her imo
Amazing vid man 💯💯🥂🥂
Thanks dude! I'm glad you enjoyed the more rambley unscripted vid lol
@@AwesomeBRINKS 👍🏻👍🏻🥂🥂
I main Smoke with Khameleon I used to use Scorpion, and I'm in God rank she's really fun and works really well with him many different meterless and one bar 40-47% combos
I still prefer Sektor, but she's been really fun to explore. The tons of combo variety you get with her is my favorite part, especially since like you said its really good damage. I honestly think the best aspect of her for Smoke is the Kitana form. Being able to combo from Back Throw is really good, and being able to kind of escape if you mess up a cancel is really cool as an option too
@@AwesomeBRINKS honestly all 3 are pretty good the main thing that makes her good is that even if it does switch last second let's say u do F12 1+3, all 3 cab convert, if u do back 2 into kameo 1 mixes, 1 is pressure and 1 is safe. Shadow blade anti airs are now full combos, it's just really fun, yeah sometimes the switches absolutely fuck me, like if i tele with Kitana and it switches to mileena, but it's fun so idc
@@PewPewShootEmUp Yea you are not wrong dude. And yes, I love that all 3 summon moves generally work in the same situations so its not the end of the world if she switches before you input the move.
I absolutely love the Shadow Blade anti air conversions though. Literally all of the Fan Lift routes are so fucking cool.
Jade is cool just cuz you get better Sareena while still having all the other cool shit from the other forms.
Super cool kameo. Super fun with Smoke, I definitely need to use her more online. I just am too attached to my Sektor rockets and flameburner restands lmao
I wish all kameos would be as crazy as this one, helping low tier characters to become viable.
For sure. Its dope how they designed khameleon, and how I think she's going to be utilized differently by many characters. I hope its a sign that they're really thinking about how they want kameos to be and will give us a big overhaul patch in the future that brings the power level of the characters and kameos up to where everyone isn't playing the exact same 1 or 2 ways(and especially rework Raiden. Dude has so many cool moves that are just less rewarding than mashing Storm Cell)
I know a lot of figureheads in the community are super doomer about the game and everything, but im super hopeful that the meta is going in a great direction and hopefully they can fix the online in the process