Yo thank you so much dude! And hes for sure my favorite (until Ermac comes out at least). I haven't fought against many Smokes though. Which I'm glad for cuz he seems super obnoxious to fight against haha. But oooooh good call on the cancel frame data, thank you!! Imma pin your comment
He's the reason I got super into this game for sure. I enjoy the kameos and stuff a lot tho too but definitely would have a lot less fun if not for Smoke. And thank you for saying that, I greatly appreciate it!
Amazing video as always! This, plus your other Smoke guides should be required watching for anyone entering the world of crayon munching. I'm literally going to study this daily before KL matches, lmao. The thing about the whiffed B2 cancel turning into B23 may single-handedly improve my online W/L ratio, I'm a very B2 addicted Smoke player 😔 You forgot about the #1 rule for Smoke players, ABYT: Always Be YOLO Teleporting 🤓☝️ Now seriously, one thing I'd add is that a lot of Kameos have some form of BnB combo that ends in invisibility without sacrificing much damage, like the ever-reliable Spinvisible Technique with Lao. Sub-Zero in particular has one I like a lot that goes F12/F32/B2 cancel into 32, 212 Sub-Zero freeze then DB2 EX and air 112. This leaves Smoke invisible after a knockdown, allowing you to get one invisible mix and possibly another combo on hit. I like to do that one after the opponent has less than 2/3 of their healthbar, the two consecutive combos can get you the round if the mix is successful. Now that I think of it, when to go invisible is almost a topic on its own. I remember watching a Justnasty match in the online ProKomp qualifiers where I started noticing there's some risk on going invisible too much/too early, because the opponent may start picking up on your habits while invisible and that makes it a lot easier for them to deal with it, specially when doing blockstring into invisibility rather than using the combo ender way because that's far more punishable. I remember AF0xyGrampa mentioning the thing about the screen movement while invisible, back in the days when people thought Smoke/Sareena was this game's MK9 Cyrax (good times). The thing about using lows to bait upblocks while invisible is 1000IQ, will definitely try it next time I see someone trying to upblock during invisibility. In general I feel I need to work more in my invisibility, I still have some trouble doing the Smoke/Scorpion setup you showed in a TH-cam Short 🤔 I have finally gotten my cancels down again, your videos and that sweet UMK3 costume they've released made me go with Smoke again this season. I thought I was going to do Peacemaker for a while, but the crayons spoke to me like the Green Goblin mask. Crayon Munching March going off a good start 👍 (NRS, Season of the Crayon when?) If you're looking for video topics, have you considered doing a video on difficult Smoke match-ups (similar to the one Shujinkydink made for Quan Chi)? Feel like that could be interesting, going over different strategies to deal with them. Wouldn't mind seeing more Smoke/Sektor gameplay, that's an underrated pairing I need to get more practice with 🧐. A Kameo Klass for Sub-Zero/Khameleon might be interesting too, given that team is starting to become more popular these days. Take care 👍
Sorry for the late reply, been super busy since this video went up. Gonna be traveling today and stuck in a car for like 9 hours so I should have no problem responding to your comment during the trip!
Thank you for the support and dope comments as always! Haha I appreciate it. I honestly need to review it before my KL matches too lmao. But yooo I'm glad that tip was helpful to you! I honestly wasn't sure at first if that'd be something that everyone would think would be super obvious. But when I realized I only JUST started doing it, I knew it'd probly be worth putting in the video lmao. And I also remembered you saying during the Khameleon stream that whiffed B2 becoming B23 is your most common misinput online lol I'm also a very addicted B2 player so you're in good company. LOL honestly I barely yolo teleport, but I am always yolo teleport canceling. Its pretty much a guarantee that when I jump, its what I'm going to do lmao. As a Sektor player tho, I should probly me yolo teleporting way more haha You are very right about the kameo invis bnbs. I wasnt sure how in depth I wanted to go with kameo options so I mostly just kept it solo other than with the F3->cancel->1114 hit confirm stuff. I probly should have mentioned comboing into EX smokeball during that section. Actually now that I think about it, I'm pretty sure I planned to mention it but totally forgot to put it in my script lmao. Its awesome that you referenced the Spinvisible Technique thing lmao. I had so much fun with that section of the Lao Kameo Klass. Yesss the Sub Kameo into EX smokeball is really fun. One of these days I'll actually try some other kameos during KL sessions. And yes I agree. I might make a separate invis focused video. Cuz there really is a lot of nuance to when to actually go invisible like you said. Especially since you might be able to get risky and go invis right in their face without issue sometimes if they aren't ready for it. I usually don't do it off of block strings but lately I've had a lot of success just calling Sektor and doing a quick EXDB4+F since most people just hold block and wait for the missile. I gotta watch JustNasty more too. I wonder if maybe I could get a video or 2 out of analyzing his matches and if people would be into that. In Smash, there's a TH-camr that posts super detailed Greninja stuff like I do for Smoke, and I would for sure watch him break down top Greninja player tournament footage so it might be cool to do something similar myself for MK Smoke with JustNasty or BDG. Yea I've heard a lot of players mention the screen movement for invis Smoke. I always thought they were exaggerating a lot but I was able to constantly react to B2 because of the screen shift. Just not in the corner lmao. Hahahah the Sareena/MK9 Cyrax comparison is amazing. Thats exactly how it was too lmao. And thank you! I have yet to encounter anyone that actually tries to UpBlock the invis F32, but it would feel so cool to bait that with a raw low and then do it again to punish the UpBlock lmao. So I hope you find success with it! I agree dude, I'll go multiple matches sometimes without using invisibility cuz I'll be thinking of my meter exclusively in terms of combo damage or breaker. If you watch the match footage i posted today, I think there's a point during one of the sets where I realized I hadn't used invis like at all so I just decided to do it in that moment lmao Ok to be fair, the timing on that Scorpion invis setup is weird. I struggle with it too. Everytime I feel like I have the rhythm down, the last hit of J112 will just randomly miss. Yoooo lets go dude, thats awesome! My cancels have fallen off a little lmfao. At least on player 2 side. I messed up quite a few of them in the match footage that went up today I think. That costume is sick tho, I keep forgetting to grab it lol Peacemaker is fun to do combos with. I've barely played him beyond just doing a like 45% one bar Cyrax combo. He's cool tho. I remember you saying you were stoked for him being a big John Cena fan. Sick that you're back to the crayon cruncher club tho lmao And LOL I love the goblin mask analogy hahaha. Let's go Crayon Munching March. That's actually perfect cuz I was born in March haha. Season of the Crayon goes hard Oooh a Smoke Matchup video could be cool. It would force me to actually learn more matchups and gain a deeper understanding of characters other than Smoke and Sub lmao. Yea ill definitely consider some stuff like that. I just gotta make sure I know what I'm talking about first. The way I think about matchups is weird so ill have to do some labbing and shit. I don't even know what matchups Smoke players consider hard? I would think characters that can combo from armor would be a little more dangerous since canceling is more risky and we have a lot of armor gaps. The only other matchup related thing I've noticed recently is that Raiden's D1 after certain strings can't be punished if i block it cuz Smokes doesn't reach as far smfh And hell yea, Smoke/Sektor is just way too fun. The vid that went up today should give you a bit to check out for that. They're not all my finest moments as I've been a bit rusty but hopefully there's still some stuff you can get from it. I might do it as a regular weekly thing with these Narrated Thought Matches, maybe try out some different kameos in the process too. But if people are interested in it, its pretty easy to put them out and obviously requires far less editing and labbing compared to any of my guide vids. I love the Sub/Khameleon kameo klass idea tho. I've been feeling like a Sub Kameo Klass would be really fun, and Khameleon is pretty sick with him like I knew she would be lmao Thanks for your awesome comments and support as always tho, Ruben! You take care as well!!
concept of your channel is exactly what i have thought mk community needed. Not just showing frames or what is punishable on paper and selling it as a guide, but going deep down into practical real game situations educating both the student and the teacher. thanks sire you've earned yourself a sub.
@@erayerdogan9449 Man I really appreciate you saying that. Thats always been the goal with my channel was to try and teach people as much as I can and provide as much info as possible, both on paper and with visual examples of everything I'm explaining. So im really glad there's an audience for that. And thank you for your dope comment, and support dude! I appreciate it immensely
Thank you! I super appreciate it! And yes, I feel like I see a lot of people talk about Smokes cancels in a really reductive way. Its either "its fake pressure and is always negative" or people think its completely broken and should cost meter. So I wanted to try and teach both sides. Fighting games are so much more fun and cool when everyone knows what they're doing. You can't bait and punish an UpBlock if your opponent doesn't even know they can UpBlock
@@AwesomeBRINKSyea exactly man. So many people go “oh yea his cancels are super negative and easy to do it only takes 10 minutes” bro not only do most online smokes I see not cancel if not only to extend combos but they definitely haven’t seen smokes like yourself or justnasty. Imo he’s top 5 hardest characters to master with a very high skill floor. But well balanced with fair counterplay. I mean these discussion videos prove that. With raiden johnny it’s just “yea he’s broken” or “70% hype meter combos”. Wish there were more characters like smoke. Complete characters without the need of a kameo that have a high skill ceiling with reasonable counterplay to keep them from being broken.
Yes I think I can do that. Recorded some matches with commentary last night and imma edit a few together and should have that up on Friday! I'm gonna be out of state until next week so hopefully that'll give you something to watch until I can get my next guide out. Gonna do a Stream for Janet on Wednesday next week too when she drops.
Great vid man, it was everything i was hoping for yessiirrrrr. The tips on F32 were super useful. I always knew it could be upblocked, but not a lot of the people i versed in kombat league did lmao. Until i started to climb the ranks i faced a lot of smokes and other pol who started upblockimg and it got super annoying, so i’m gonna practice doing the 1114 after the F3 cancel and see if it can combo into sareena. If not i might try a different kameo like scoripion. Its funny tho cuz now whenever its a smoke mirror i’m gonna use that knowledge check i got on myself with the F32 upblock lol. Really sucks about how many people hate on smoke without actually bothering to learn his counters. Super annoying. Great vid as always man 💯💯🤙🏻🤙🏻. Btw, what are your thoughts on peacemaker? Been learning him, i enjoy his combos but have trouble with the timing of some of his moves man. But I’m enjoying him. Honestly it’d be dope if you would drop a tier list for the season 3 meta. Would you consider it?
Yooo thanks dude, thats awesome to hear!! And yes I do not experience a lot of people actually UpBlocking it on KL. It was my General Shao practice partner that made me aware of how doable it is to UpBlock online (we usually have ~90ms Ping when we play too) so I knew that had to be the first tip lol And ummm I think if I remember, F3 into cancel 1114 doesn't work into Sareena, but I wanna say 11 Sareena works, or maybe its just 1 like with Sektor. But yea I get a lot of mileage off of the F3 into 1114 so I hope you get the same out of it! Scorpion is also really good tho. I gotta start using him more so you can't go wrong if you try him out. And hell yea, don't let other Smokes get away with F32 for free Worddd but that tends to be how a lot of people are in competitive games like this. Having been a part of both the Smash community and the MK community, they both seem to be the worst at it lmao. But thank you as always for your support and dope comments! As for Peacemaker, his combo structure is really fun to mess with. I was labbing some Cyrax stuff with him and getting insane damage. He's not my kinda character though but he's really fun to mess with. I'm still waiting for Ermac. But I'm unsure of how good Peacemaker is yet. I've barely played against him. Its sick youre enjoying him tho dude! And oooh a tier list could be cool actually 🤔 Id have to learn more about some of the characters. I've been so far down the Smoke tech rabbit hole lately that I realized I dont know shit about most of the not top tier characters. But I definitely will consider it! Appreciate the suggestion!
Yooo thanks dude. And lmao forreallll, that should took sooo long. Also searching through my Kombat League footage to see if I could find examples of things I was tryna show was probly the most time consuming part smh
This is EASILY the most comprehensive smoke guide on youtube. It's an absolute shame that it won't reach as many people as the top mk youtubers. I am SO tired of people calling him top tier. This character has been completely neutered. If you have the time, please watch my 25 minute video of insane rambling asking for reasonable changes to smoke. One being b2,3,4 to be changed to b2,4,4 so you don't DIE because someone stepped back 3 inches.
Yo I super appreciate you saying that dude, thank you! And yea I mean, it'd be cool if my videos had more reach, especially with all the misconceptions I see about the character lmao. But I'm just happy that I have any kind of audience that finds my stuff informative or entertaining lol. I super agree tho. Definitely not top tier. I think he's a solid character with defined strengths and weaknesses personally, with a couple weaknesses that I dont get the point of(like the B23 thing you mentioned). And oooh I will definitely check out your ramble video about Smoke!
@AwesomeBRINKS This video was very well put together and organized. I have a hard time deciding the order I want to give the information in. Your video does a very good job at clearing things up and providing an unbiased view of the character to help both sides. I understand his strengths: his invisibility, a hit-confirmable special (although input execution can kill you here), the reach of B2, and F4 being +8 on block. But his weaknesses are so numerous that it's amazing what we can do with this character. But it's clear why he isn't seen in any competitions anymore. At this point...I almost wish B2 was 20 frames and hit mid JUST so I can effectively use it as a whiff punish tool. I'm hit out of B2 when people didn't even intend to CONSTANTLY.
@@JustinKeithDThank you!! I always put a lot of effort into my scripts and trying to organize the info a certain way so im glad to hear it worked out lmao. Agreed. Though I'm wondering if we are rating the significance of his weaknesses a little differently from each other lol. Yoooo i feel that about B2. I got swatted out of it so many times. I actually think it would be cool if it just fully low crushed or somehow was immune to pokes. Itd be neat as an option to hard read a D1 and its obnoxious getting antiaired by D1s for doing it.
@@AwesomeBRINKS hell yea! i learned a lot and it’s brought me up a couple ranks with a little practice. i was having a kameo crisis before and i thought sub would’ve been his perfect kameo for my style but he felt boring to use, sektor offers so much more and he’s hella fun! btw after flame thrower i always f4 for guaranteed plus frames/pressure. i might make some videos on combos with sektor since it doesn’t seem like many people use him
@@anthonyaquino123 Sorry for the late reply but im glad you were able to rise up a couple ranks!! Thats always the goal with these videos is to help people improve and learn, so hearing that kinda feedback is just really cool dude. Haha Sub is sort of a boring kameo. Hes really good with Smoke imo, but he's not as exciting as like a Sektor or Scorpion. Yessss i also do F4 after flameburner a lot. Its possible for them to mash before the F4 connects, but a lot of people are scared after the restand and tend to hold block and let you get away with doing F4 there lol. And yoooo you should totally show off some Sektor combos. I actually was thinking of doing the same recently but I've got too many other videos planned I wanna do first lol
I love your content! I just got into mortal kombat and your Smoke guides have been really helpful. Do you have any tips for getting crayon bits out of teeth? After I play Smoke I get a bunch lodged in there and they’re a pain to try and floss out.
Yooo thats awesome to hear!! Thank you! I'm glad they could be helpful to you!! LMAOOOO nah I haven't found anything super useful yet tbh. Usually a good hearty mouth rinse after a long session will take care of most of them 🤣
@@ethemighty1869 Yes, when referring to the inputs in MK games, people refer to them by numbers that are universal, since some of us use Xbox controllers, some use Playstation, etc. 1 = Square or Xbox X 2 = Triangle or Y 3 = Playstation X or A 4 = Circle or B
@@iantoller7641 Do you mean like in the same combo or just in like block pressure sequences? To do multiple ones in a combo, you have to do EX ones after the regular one. I'm not sure what you mean about using a kameo to do it though.
@@AwesomeBRINKS I meant like say I do a combo mid combo I do regular vicious vapers hit the f12 1+3 into sektor net isn't that the only way to do another vicious vapers
@@iantoller7641 You can do multiple in a row but you have to spend meter if its in the same combo. So you could do F32 vicious vapors cancel into 212 exVVC 212 exVVC 32 32 J112 for example. The damage isn't worth the meter, but its a fun thing you can do at the end of a game to get a long combo into a brutal or something lol
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Great guide man, Smoke is one my favorite characters and also one of my least favorite characters to fight against in this game.
Also Smoke's cancel frame data would be useful here, got it from Shujinkydink
Smokes Cancel Frame Data:
1 = -7
11 = -5
1114 (3rd hit) = -7
d1 = -12
f1 = -5
f12 = -6
f1224 (3rd hit) = -2
f1224 (4th hit) = -6
2 = -3
21 = -10
212 = 0
b2 = -3
3 (1st hit) = -5
3 (2nd hit) = -5
d3 = -10
d34 = -7
f3 = -4
f32 = -5
4 = -5
d4 = -6
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Yo thank you so much dude! And hes for sure my favorite (until Ermac comes out at least). I haven't fought against many Smokes though. Which I'm glad for cuz he seems super obnoxious to fight against haha.
But oooooh good call on the cancel frame data, thank you!! Imma pin your comment
Smoke might be the only reason I keep playing this game. He's actually fun to use. Great guide, much appreciated!!
He's the reason I got super into this game for sure. I enjoy the kameos and stuff a lot tho too but definitely would have a lot less fun if not for Smoke. And thank you for saying that, I greatly appreciate it!
smoke main here
Hell yea welcome! You are in good company lmao
Pussay
Question bro what projectiles does vicious vapers beat?
Amazing video as always! This, plus your other Smoke guides should be required watching for anyone entering the world of crayon munching. I'm literally going to study this daily before KL matches, lmao. The thing about the whiffed B2 cancel turning into B23 may single-handedly improve my online W/L ratio, I'm a very B2 addicted Smoke player 😔
You forgot about the #1 rule for Smoke players, ABYT: Always Be YOLO Teleporting 🤓☝️
Now seriously, one thing I'd add is that a lot of Kameos have some form of BnB combo that ends in invisibility without sacrificing much damage, like the ever-reliable Spinvisible Technique with Lao. Sub-Zero in particular has one I like a lot that goes F12/F32/B2 cancel into 32, 212 Sub-Zero freeze then DB2 EX and air 112. This leaves Smoke invisible after a knockdown, allowing you to get one invisible mix and possibly another combo on hit. I like to do that one after the opponent has less than 2/3 of their healthbar, the two consecutive combos can get you the round if the mix is successful.
Now that I think of it, when to go invisible is almost a topic on its own. I remember watching a Justnasty match in the online ProKomp qualifiers where I started noticing there's some risk on going invisible too much/too early, because the opponent may start picking up on your habits while invisible and that makes it a lot easier for them to deal with it, specially when doing blockstring into invisibility rather than using the combo ender way because that's far more punishable.
I remember AF0xyGrampa mentioning the thing about the screen movement while invisible, back in the days when people thought Smoke/Sareena was this game's MK9 Cyrax (good times). The thing about using lows to bait upblocks while invisible is 1000IQ, will definitely try it next time I see someone trying to upblock during invisibility. In general I feel I need to work more in my invisibility, I still have some trouble doing the Smoke/Scorpion setup you showed in a TH-cam Short 🤔
I have finally gotten my cancels down again, your videos and that sweet UMK3 costume they've released made me go with Smoke again this season. I thought I was going to do Peacemaker for a while, but the crayons spoke to me like the Green Goblin mask. Crayon Munching March going off a good start 👍 (NRS, Season of the Crayon when?)
If you're looking for video topics, have you considered doing a video on difficult Smoke match-ups (similar to the one Shujinkydink made for Quan Chi)? Feel like that could be interesting, going over different strategies to deal with them. Wouldn't mind seeing more Smoke/Sektor gameplay, that's an underrated pairing I need to get more practice with 🧐. A Kameo Klass for Sub-Zero/Khameleon might be interesting too, given that team is starting to become more popular these days. Take care 👍
Sorry for the late reply, been super busy since this video went up. Gonna be traveling today and stuck in a car for like 9 hours so I should have no problem responding to your comment during the trip!
Thank you for the support and dope comments as always! Haha I appreciate it.
I honestly need to review it before my KL matches too lmao.
But yooo I'm glad that tip was helpful to you! I honestly wasn't sure at first if that'd be something that everyone would think would be super obvious. But when I realized I only JUST started doing it, I knew it'd probly be worth putting in the video lmao. And I also remembered you saying during the Khameleon stream that whiffed B2 becoming B23 is your most common misinput online lol
I'm also a very addicted B2 player so you're in good company.
LOL honestly I barely yolo teleport, but I am always yolo teleport canceling. Its pretty much a guarantee that when I jump, its what I'm going to do lmao.
As a Sektor player tho, I should probly me yolo teleporting way more haha
You are very right about the kameo invis bnbs. I wasnt sure how in depth I wanted to go with kameo options so I mostly just kept it solo other than with the F3->cancel->1114 hit confirm stuff. I probly should have mentioned comboing into EX smokeball during that section. Actually now that I think about it, I'm pretty sure I planned to mention it but totally forgot to put it in my script lmao.
Its awesome that you referenced the Spinvisible Technique thing lmao. I had so much fun with that section of the Lao Kameo Klass.
Yesss the Sub Kameo into EX smokeball is really fun. One of these days I'll actually try some other kameos during KL sessions.
And yes I agree. I might make a separate invis focused video. Cuz there really is a lot of nuance to when to actually go invisible like you said. Especially since you might be able to get risky and go invis right in their face without issue sometimes if they aren't ready for it.
I usually don't do it off of block strings but lately I've had a lot of success just calling Sektor and doing a quick EXDB4+F since most people just hold block and wait for the missile.
I gotta watch JustNasty more too. I wonder if maybe I could get a video or 2 out of analyzing his matches and if people would be into that. In Smash, there's a TH-camr that posts super detailed Greninja stuff like I do for Smoke, and I would for sure watch him break down top Greninja player tournament footage so it might be cool to do something similar myself for MK Smoke with JustNasty or BDG.
Yea I've heard a lot of players mention the screen movement for invis Smoke. I always thought they were exaggerating a lot but I was able to constantly react to B2 because of the screen shift. Just not in the corner lmao.
Hahahah the Sareena/MK9 Cyrax comparison is amazing. Thats exactly how it was too lmao.
And thank you! I have yet to encounter anyone that actually tries to UpBlock the invis F32, but it would feel so cool to bait that with a raw low and then do it again to punish the UpBlock lmao. So I hope you find success with it!
I agree dude, I'll go multiple matches sometimes without using invisibility cuz I'll be thinking of my meter exclusively in terms of combo damage or breaker. If you watch the match footage i posted today, I think there's a point during one of the sets where I realized I hadn't used invis like at all so I just decided to do it in that moment lmao
Ok to be fair, the timing on that Scorpion invis setup is weird. I struggle with it too. Everytime I feel like I have the rhythm down, the last hit of J112 will just randomly miss.
Yoooo lets go dude, thats awesome! My cancels have fallen off a little lmfao. At least on player 2 side. I messed up quite a few of them in the match footage that went up today I think. That costume is sick tho, I keep forgetting to grab it lol
Peacemaker is fun to do combos with. I've barely played him beyond just doing a like 45% one bar Cyrax combo. He's cool tho. I remember you saying you were stoked for him being a big John Cena fan. Sick that you're back to the crayon cruncher club tho lmao
And LOL I love the goblin mask analogy hahaha.
Let's go Crayon Munching March. That's actually perfect cuz I was born in March haha.
Season of the Crayon goes hard
Oooh a Smoke Matchup video could be cool. It would force me to actually learn more matchups and gain a deeper understanding of characters other than Smoke and Sub lmao.
Yea ill definitely consider some stuff like that. I just gotta make sure I know what I'm talking about first. The way I think about matchups is weird so ill have to do some labbing and shit. I don't even know what matchups Smoke players consider hard? I would think characters that can combo from armor would be a little more dangerous since canceling is more risky and we have a lot of armor gaps.
The only other matchup related thing I've noticed recently is that Raiden's D1 after certain strings can't be punished if i block it cuz Smokes doesn't reach as far smfh
And hell yea, Smoke/Sektor is just way too fun. The vid that went up today should give you a bit to check out for that. They're not all my finest moments as I've been a bit rusty but hopefully there's still some stuff you can get from it. I might do it as a regular weekly thing with these Narrated Thought Matches, maybe try out some different kameos in the process too. But if people are interested in it, its pretty easy to put them out and obviously requires far less editing and labbing compared to any of my guide vids.
I love the Sub/Khameleon kameo klass idea tho. I've been feeling like a Sub Kameo Klass would be really fun, and Khameleon is pretty sick with him like I knew she would be lmao
Thanks for your awesome comments and support as always tho, Ruben! You take care as well!!
Smoke is such a fun character, but I feel so crippled bc I can’t nail the vapor cancel
concept of your channel is exactly what i have thought mk community needed. Not just showing frames or what is punishable on paper and selling it as a guide, but going deep down into practical real game situations educating both the student and the teacher. thanks sire you've earned yourself a sub.
@@erayerdogan9449 Man I really appreciate you saying that. Thats always been the goal with my channel was to try and teach people as much as I can and provide as much info as possible, both on paper and with visual examples of everything I'm explaining. So im really glad there's an audience for that. And thank you for your dope comment, and support dude! I appreciate it immensely
I love how you covered both options for smoke players and opponents. Really good guide, keep up the good work 👍🏾
Thank you! I super appreciate it!
And yes, I feel like I see a lot of people talk about Smokes cancels in a really reductive way. Its either "its fake pressure and is always negative" or people think its completely broken and should cost meter. So I wanted to try and teach both sides. Fighting games are so much more fun and cool when everyone knows what they're doing.
You can't bait and punish an UpBlock if your opponent doesn't even know they can UpBlock
@@AwesomeBRINKSyea exactly man. So many people go “oh yea his cancels are super negative and easy to do it only takes 10 minutes” bro not only do most online smokes I see not cancel if not only to extend combos but they definitely haven’t seen smokes like yourself or justnasty. Imo he’s top 5 hardest characters to master with a very high skill floor. But well balanced with fair counterplay. I mean these discussion videos prove that. With raiden johnny it’s just “yea he’s broken” or “70% hype meter combos”. Wish there were more characters like smoke. Complete characters without the need of a kameo that have a high skill ceiling with reasonable counterplay to keep them from being broken.
Hey brinks could you just drop us some gameplay vids as we wait for your next tutorial
Yes I think I can do that. Recorded some matches with commentary last night and imma edit a few together and should have that up on Friday! I'm gonna be out of state until next week so hopefully that'll give you something to watch until I can get my next guide out. Gonna do a Stream for Janet on Wednesday next week too when she drops.
@@AwesomeBRINKS Awesome am new to the game just started playing 3 days ago but I have been falling the competitive scene via COTR and the kolloseum
Great vid man, it was everything i was hoping for yessiirrrrr. The tips on F32 were super useful. I always knew it could be upblocked, but not a lot of the people i versed in kombat league did lmao. Until i started to climb the ranks i faced a lot of smokes and other pol who started upblockimg and it got super annoying, so i’m gonna practice doing the 1114 after the F3 cancel and see if it can combo into sareena. If not i might try a different kameo like scoripion. Its funny tho cuz now whenever its a smoke mirror i’m gonna use that knowledge check i got on myself with the F32 upblock lol. Really sucks about how many people hate on smoke without actually bothering to learn his counters. Super annoying. Great vid as always man 💯💯🤙🏻🤙🏻. Btw, what are your thoughts on peacemaker? Been learning him, i enjoy his combos but have trouble with the timing of some of his moves man. But I’m enjoying him. Honestly it’d be dope if you would drop a tier list for the season 3 meta. Would you consider it?
Yooo thanks dude, thats awesome to hear!! And yes I do not experience a lot of people actually UpBlocking it on KL. It was my General Shao practice partner that made me aware of how doable it is to UpBlock online (we usually have ~90ms Ping when we play too) so I knew that had to be the first tip lol
And ummm I think if I remember, F3 into cancel 1114 doesn't work into Sareena, but I wanna say 11 Sareena works, or maybe its just 1 like with Sektor. But yea I get a lot of mileage off of the F3 into 1114 so I hope you get the same out of it!
Scorpion is also really good tho. I gotta start using him more so you can't go wrong if you try him out.
And hell yea, don't let other Smokes get away with F32 for free
Worddd but that tends to be how a lot of people are in competitive games like this. Having been a part of both the Smash community and the MK community, they both seem to be the worst at it lmao.
But thank you as always for your support and dope comments!
As for Peacemaker, his combo structure is really fun to mess with. I was labbing some Cyrax stuff with him and getting insane damage. He's not my kinda character though but he's really fun to mess with. I'm still waiting for Ermac. But I'm unsure of how good Peacemaker is yet. I've barely played against him. Its sick youre enjoying him tho dude!
And oooh a tier list could be cool actually 🤔 Id have to learn more about some of the characters. I've been so far down the Smoke tech rabbit hole lately that I realized I dont know shit about most of the not top tier characters. But I definitely will consider it! Appreciate the suggestion!
@@AwesomeBRINKS of course man love the discussions 🥂🥂
@@therealshumbucket for sure dude!
Les goo another guide
sick vid Brinks, could see why it took so long to edit!!!
Yooo thanks dude. And lmao forreallll, that should took sooo long. Also searching through my Kombat League footage to see if I could find examples of things I was tryna show was probly the most time consuming part smh
This is EASILY the most comprehensive smoke guide on youtube. It's an absolute shame that it won't reach as many people as the top mk youtubers. I am SO tired of people calling him top tier. This character has been completely neutered. If you have the time, please watch my 25 minute video of insane rambling asking for reasonable changes to smoke. One being b2,3,4 to be changed to b2,4,4 so you don't DIE because someone stepped back 3 inches.
Yo I super appreciate you saying that dude, thank you! And yea I mean, it'd be cool if my videos had more reach, especially with all the misconceptions I see about the character lmao. But I'm just happy that I have any kind of audience that finds my stuff informative or entertaining lol.
I super agree tho. Definitely not top tier. I think he's a solid character with defined strengths and weaknesses personally, with a couple weaknesses that I dont get the point of(like the B23 thing you mentioned).
And oooh I will definitely check out your ramble video about Smoke!
@AwesomeBRINKS This video was very well put together and organized. I have a hard time deciding the order I want to give the information in. Your video does a very good job at clearing things up and providing an unbiased view of the character to help both sides.
I understand his strengths: his invisibility, a hit-confirmable special (although input execution can kill you here), the reach of B2, and F4 being +8 on block. But his weaknesses are so numerous that it's amazing what we can do with this character. But it's clear why he isn't seen in any competitions anymore.
At this point...I almost wish B2 was 20 frames and hit mid JUST so I can effectively use it as a whiff punish tool. I'm hit out of B2 when people didn't even intend to CONSTANTLY.
@@AwesomeBRINKS also let me know if you'd ever like to run some mirrors!
@@JustinKeithDThank you!! I always put a lot of effort into my scripts and trying to organize the info a certain way so im glad to hear it worked out lmao.
Agreed. Though I'm wondering if we are rating the significance of his weaknesses a little differently from each other lol.
Yoooo i feel that about B2. I got swatted out of it so many times. I actually think it would be cool if it just fully low crushed or somehow was immune to pokes. Itd be neat as an option to hard read a D1 and its obnoxious getting antiaired by D1s for doing it.
@AwesomeBRINKS I'm going to convince you that this character isn't as complete as you think lmao let me add you haha
I main with smoke, alwais see you videos, thank a lot brink
Thats awesome!! I hope they have been helpful! And you're welcome!!
nice video, you show me a couple of things i didnt know
Thank you!! And niceee thats always the goal with stuff like this!
What stuff was new for you?
@@AwesomeBRINKS punish with S1 and Back R1 with sektor
@@viniciozamoraawesome, im glad you learned something!
You can also teleport again after enhanced invisible bomb. Crucial info u left out.
This is the type of videos I was looking for... Great and useful content. Thanks.
Am kenshi main, but i occasionally play smoke(scorp). Thanks for invisibility tips
@@dred814 Youre welcome! I hope it helped and lemme know if you have any additional questions!
this is the best smoke guide without a doubt i hope ur channel gets the exposure it deserves u have a new sub 😎
Yoooo thats awesome of you to say! I hope so too! But thank you! I hope it was helpful and informative!!
@@AwesomeBRINKS hell yea! i learned a lot and it’s brought me up a couple ranks with a little practice. i was having a kameo crisis before and i thought sub would’ve been his perfect kameo for my style but he felt boring to use, sektor offers so much more and he’s hella fun! btw after flame thrower i always f4 for guaranteed plus frames/pressure. i might make some videos on combos with sektor since it doesn’t seem like many people use him
@@anthonyaquino123 Sorry for the late reply but im glad you were able to rise up a couple ranks!! Thats always the goal with these videos is to help people improve and learn, so hearing that kinda feedback is just really cool dude.
Haha Sub is sort of a boring kameo. Hes really good with Smoke imo, but he's not as exciting as like a Sektor or Scorpion.
Yessss i also do F4 after flameburner a lot. Its possible for them to mash before the F4 connects, but a lot of people are scared after the restand and tend to hold block and let you get away with doing F4 there lol.
And yoooo you should totally show off some Sektor combos. I actually was thinking of doing the same recently but I've got too many other videos planned I wanna do first lol
I love your content! I just got into mortal kombat and your Smoke guides have been really helpful. Do you have any tips for getting crayon bits out of teeth? After I play Smoke I get a bunch lodged in there and they’re a pain to try and floss out.
Yooo thats awesome to hear!! Thank you! I'm glad they could be helpful to you!!
LMAOOOO nah I haven't found anything super useful yet tbh. Usually a good hearty mouth rinse after a long session will take care of most of them 🤣
As a smoke player im watching this with a snack 🍿😂
@@moneyybag_fro Hell yea! I hope it was an enjoyable watch and an even better snack!
Excellent video, 🎉🎉🎉
Thank you!! I very much appreciate it!!
Bro put in work!
Forreal dude, it was a lot of work. Fun work but still a lot. Its nice to hear that it shows tho! Lmao and I hope its helpful for people
Ayyyyyyeeeeee
what do the numbers mean when you are refering to combos is it buttons likes xyba?
@@ethemighty1869 Yes, when referring to the inputs in MK games, people refer to them by numbers that are universal, since some of us use Xbox controllers, some use Playstation, etc.
1 = Square or Xbox X
2 = Triangle or Y
3 = Playstation X or A
4 = Circle or B
@@AwesomeBRINKS thank you :))
@@ethemighty1869 No problem! Lemme know if you have more questions!
Is it possible to multiple vicious vaper cancels right after each other with using a kameo if so how( i swear thats my biggest problem)
@@iantoller7641 Do you mean like in the same combo or just in like block pressure sequences?
To do multiple ones in a combo, you have to do EX ones after the regular one.
I'm not sure what you mean about using a kameo to do it though.
@@AwesomeBRINKS I meant like say I do a combo mid combo I do regular vicious vapers hit the f12 1+3 into sektor net isn't that the only way to do another vicious vapers
I meant to say without the use of a kameo not with my bad
@@iantoller7641 You can do multiple in a row but you have to spend meter if its in the same combo. So you could do F32 vicious vapors cancel into 212 exVVC 212 exVVC 32 32 J112 for example. The damage isn't worth the meter, but its a fun thing you can do at the end of a game to get a long combo into a brutal or something lol
@@AwesomeBRINKS lol thanks I appreciate it I'll work on it more and upload the video I'll tag you in it so you can hopefully teach me more
You should put time stamps