Thank you! It's very useful to know that Weighted is a legacy option and Delay is not supposed to be used with a pen tablet. I never use the stabilizer, but now I'm more tempted to experiment with it.
Thank you!! I’m newish to digital art, I’ve done it off and on for a few years, but recently got a nice tablet and I’m trying to get better and learn more. I kept getting frustrated because nothing I did was helping my lines look clean. I’m a traditional artist, and didn’t expect the switch to be so hard, but this has helped a lot!
Thank you! My Wacom device always has problem using "Weighted" at the begin of lines, which I thought it my own problem before your video. By the way, Huion tablet can use "Weighted" without problem. But I prefer "Stabilizer" and "dynamic brush tool" compared to "weighted".
I got used to using the basic smoothing and when I need a bit more care for a line I use the dynamic brush tool. I like using the shortcuts, because I don't use many tools, but I am frequently wrong about where is my hand on the keyboard...
I can't believe that I haven't noticed until now that the "Delay" can be switched off. One thing I didn't like in stabilizer is how it homogenize the line dynamics and make the lineart look too boring. Maybe it'll be better with "delay" off.
Glad it was helpful! About the canvas, nowadays, I often use 4K 3840x2160px landscape ; it scale perfectly to most online websites having a 16:9 ratio. My webcomics page are about the same size in width, but extended in vertical to match the vertical ratio, big colored book format, pages in 450ppi.
Should we request to remove weighted and keep only stabiliser and basic and none option. The stabiliser can only have sample count slider and the finish line and stabilise sensors can also be check on by default. Some users have said that they get confused due to so much options so this was a suggestion to address that
Hey, I think it is a good idea to keep it as a legacy option because I saw streamer preferring to use the weighted option because it was better setup out of the box and "stabilization" with the delay option was like a "no go". Also, I'm realizing many users use the Dynamic Brush Tool to stabilize; it's easier to discover in the toolbox on a first run. But if Krita was my own software only and I had to cleanup the thing, I would do that: keep only stabilizer/basic/off behind a single slider with easier values , put Delay Off by default. Make 20 positions for various sample counts on a slider or drop down in the same vein as Paint Tool SAI, and put that by default on the top toolbar. (0, 1 (basic), 2, 3 .... 20). But I'm a bit extreme , I know 🤓
I can't believe this came out just literally after I've already finished my line art that had a LOT of curved lines. Lmao fml. Nonetheless thank you for the tutorial!
When do you usually use this feature? , for me i try to avoid it and train my ability to control my lines you also inspired me to start my own drawing in ink training arc xD to Master my line confidence on paper
The most common use case is for inking comic/anime ink lines: it can help in getting the thin lines smooth and dynamic and reduce little shakiness. It also helps in general very low quality pointing devices or tablet with noisy or badly shielded detection of events and coordinate. On my side, because I often paint more than I draw on computer, I use it with the final long brush strokes with "rigger" type of brush, but because my style starts to get more and more fragmented into many dirty brush strokes and I like to show them as raw as I can, I rarely use it.
Alors cet outil agit avec un centre de gravité et orbite autour si je me souviens (je ne l'utilise jamais, une vieillerie de version de Krita qui a plus de 15 ans et est resté là, car à l'époque les dev acceptait beaucoup de "pourquoi pas" sans avoir encore même une idée de ligne éditoriale ou de cible utilisateur ou utilisatrice). C'est un outil assez difficile à utiliser et je n'ai jamais trouvé d'application pratique. Le stabiliser, quant à lui, est plutôt sur un lissage de chemin.
Great video, I had no idea about weighted being a legacy option. One question, if you're not using the stabilizer do you leave it in "basic" or "none"?
Thank you. The default is "Basic" , in Basic mode Krita trim a bit the events in case your tablet gives too many inputs and smooth the coordinates for an optimal line. In "None" it's directly the coordinate of the tablet (for the best or the worst).
Hey, yes, but it depends the brush. The studies I drew today and posted on social media (masto/insta/facebook) had a stabilizer at 42. It removes a slight shake I sometime have. But once I colored, I turned of the stabilization.
what s the difference betwwen the stabilization option and the dynamic brush? Btw why stabilization is active on the eraser aswell? i want a normal eraser dont tell me i have to unselect the stabilizer option every time i use the eraser 🥶
Hey, the dynamic brush dynabrush is mostly an engine around weighted and 'gravity' point. The stabilisation is more a method of smoothing input coordinate. Yes, stabilisation is global to the "type of tracing". In Krita their is no "Brush tool", it's a freehand tracing tool with a brush icon. And eraser in freehand tracing mode is similar to the brush. That's a deep architectural issue of Krita since more than a decade; one that favor painting workflow over drawing workflow.
I can try, but I never used this one in 14 years of Krita because the controls with the drag is really like having a truck at the tip of my stylus 😆 , I'll probably put this one in the category of "here for mouse user or for legacy reason". 😃 But because of this, I might be totally biaised, I'll look, maybe the tools received dev and update I haven't noticed that make it worth using it now.
A heretical question: does the brush stabilizer make it viable to paint with the mouse? (my kid has my drawing tablet these days, but sometimes I’d like to draw digitally, too ☺)
Good question. Coloring line art scanned with a mouse is totally possible (I probably spent more than 3 years when I started digital with a mouse and Ps 5.5 on Windows 98). The mouse feels a bit like a spray can (the one for graffiti). A bit of smoothing on the line can probably help a bit. I can't hurt, that's sure.
The main problem about painting with a mouse is the lack of pressure sensitivity. A mouse can be very precise even without a stabilizer, but you'll always lack control over the line dynamics and opacity. Btw the pioneers of digital painting did indeed paint with a mouse, and have been doing this for about a decade until the graphic tablets became affordable.
@@DavidRevoy yeah ok…so the brush I use before didn’t work they act like basic brush and try to use other brush,but they all act basic so I was just wonder if you know how to fix it
@@Mia-od6bs I'm not sure what "acting basic" mean exactly here, but if I try to guess, I understand "no pressure input" from the tablet, and so, working "basic" like a mouse would do (no size variation, or no opacity variation). If it is this case, check your tablet driver and be sure to use the latest probided by your brand for the last update of your operating system. Also, the latest Krita version. Aligning all of this and a reboot can already clean up the situation and see if the hardware works as intended. I also don't know your system, but if you are on Linux, test also the appimage version provided by krita.org within an X11 session. (Krita is not ready for Wayland).
Oh yes, it's a known bug reported in 2022: the Mypaint brush engine has its own stabilizer in the options and its not compatible with the built in Krita stabilizer. The bug is here: bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=452811 , add your voice to it if you can.
I think you have to explicitly set Krita in the setting to not use graphic card; but I haven't played with this option since a long long time. Last time probably was around 2016 when I had a laptop with a very bad intel GPU and turning all to CPU only was to my advantage for performances. It's a checkbox in Display tab afair.
Oh yes, for sure, there are a lot of overlaps and duplicate in the "what tool can solve what problems?" Krita's list of feature 😃 I was never a big fan of Dynamic Brush (never used it for anything in 14 years of Krita, to be honest), but good to hear it is used!
Krita needs to make more tablet friendly that's a luxury from going from pc to tablet relax drawing I don't care if they need to charge just get it done they could be a real competitor. I pay for csp because it's faster when working on my tablet than krita.
hehe, yes; I'm French. And my accent is the result one get when learning English by playing mostly PC video games untranslated and early forums in 2000s ;-)
@DavidRevoy ça se saurait si l'accent français en parlant anglais était classe. Un effort de prononciation fait partie de l'apprentissage de la langue. Tellement terne l'accent français...
what do you mean weighted is the best stabilization method. Stabilizer is overkill even for line art. Stabilizer is good when you want to make stitches and stuff like that. Honestly I think you have an issue with your tablet, Krita does not behave like that.
Nah, the default of "Stabilizer" were ruined by someone who added "Delay" feature to the panel and succeed at imposing it to be activated by default. It spoiled the perception of stabilizer for many artists. Delay is an option of tracing that was for mouse like 3D software (Zbrush, then Blender). So, the reflex of any user after that was to boycott it once discovering it with the Delay option because it feels wrong out of the box (I saw two live-streaming of Krita artists, they went "nope" after putting "stabilization" on) while the "weighted" has better default that feels more made for inking/drawing. But Stabilizer is more accurate and was written to match other software stabilization (Csp/SAI). It's better in line smoothing, in finishing lines, and so in predictability. It needs just the good sample count value :) I inked many comic pages with it, and was around when both features were developed. (edit: but I'm open to feedabck from dev about it, I can be wrong and I accumulated probably many biased ideas and inacurate dev-storys with time, deformed by my memory or part of me who simplify things to store souvenirs more efficiently)
@@DavidRevoy I never noticed this check box next to delay with my dark theme. this was invisible to me if I was not looking for it because of what you said now. It does feel like SAI and such not sure why this is so hidden but the behaviour is almost like entirely different method. Thanks for point it out for me.
Thank you! It's very useful to know that Weighted is a legacy option and Delay is not supposed to be used with a pen tablet. I never use the stabilizer, but now I'm more tempted to experiment with it.
I've only recently switched to digital from pen and paper and nothing I tired technique wise fixed my wobbly lines. Thanks so much for this info
I'm in that same stage right now , having wobbly lines , recently shifted to digital from pen and paper
Thank you!! I’m newish to digital art, I’ve done it off and on for a few years, but recently got a nice tablet and I’m trying to get better and learn more. I kept getting frustrated because nothing I did was helping my lines look clean. I’m a traditional artist, and didn’t expect the switch to be so hard, but this has helped a lot!
Great video David, thank you.
I like to use the dynamic brush, since it has a good stabilization as well ✨
Good to know! I'm curious if demos exists of good inking with the Dyna Brush tool. I'll take a look.
this literally made my whole day, I was struggling so much with my line arts and this changes everything THANK YOU SO MUCH
Thank you for the information. I am brand new to Krita and was some what frustrated trying to draw smooth lines. 😊😊
Nice since I need to get back into drawing using krita.
same here
Thank you, David
My god, how did I know about this before. Thank you!
Thankyou so much ❤
💜💜💜☺
Rage quit and shut down my PC 15 mins ago. Saw this video about stabilizer and now I am going to switch on my PC again 😂
Thanks for explaining ! Very useful !
Oh, thanks!
I always used weighted, but turning on the cursor makes stabilizer way better
Thank you! My Wacom device always has problem using "Weighted" at the begin of lines, which I thought it my own problem before your video. By the way, Huion tablet can use "Weighted" without problem. But I prefer "Stabilizer" and "dynamic brush tool" compared to "weighted".
Just in time!!, Thank you so much!!✨✨
Perfect!
I got used to using the basic smoothing and when I need a bit more care for a line I use the dynamic brush tool. I like using the shortcuts, because I don't use many tools, but I am frequently wrong about where is my hand on the keyboard...
excelent video, thank you for sharing!
Great video! Very helpful!!
Thanks thiss will help me tons.
I can't believe that I haven't noticed until now that the "Delay" can be switched off.
One thing I didn't like in stabilizer is how it homogenize the line dynamics and make the lineart look too boring. Maybe it'll be better with "delay" off.
Very helpful video. I've been using weighted but I will try stabilizer.
What canvas size/resolution do you recommend? I work in 2000*2545 300px
Glad it was helpful! About the canvas, nowadays, I often use 4K 3840x2160px landscape ; it scale perfectly to most online websites having a 16:9 ratio. My webcomics page are about the same size in width, but extended in vertical to match the vertical ratio, big colored book format, pages in 450ppi.
Should we request to remove weighted and keep only stabiliser and basic and none option. The stabiliser can only have sample count slider and the finish line and stabilise sensors can also be check on by default. Some users have said that they get confused due to so much options so this was a suggestion to address that
Hey, I think it is a good idea to keep it as a legacy option because I saw streamer preferring to use the weighted option because it was better setup out of the box and "stabilization" with the delay option was like a "no go". Also, I'm realizing many users use the Dynamic Brush Tool to stabilize; it's easier to discover in the toolbox on a first run.
But if Krita was my own software only and I had to cleanup the thing, I would do that: keep only stabilizer/basic/off behind a single slider with easier values , put Delay Off by default. Make 20 positions for various sample counts on a slider or drop down in the same vein as Paint Tool SAI, and put that by default on the top toolbar. (0, 1 (basic), 2, 3 .... 20). But I'm a bit extreme , I know 🤓
I can't believe this came out just literally after I've already finished my line art that had a LOT of curved lines. Lmao fml. Nonetheless thank you for the tutorial!
THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!
THANK YOU
Thank you so much sir
When do you usually use this feature? , for me i try to avoid it and train my ability to control my lines you also inspired me to start my own drawing in ink training arc xD to Master my line confidence on paper
The most common use case is for inking comic/anime ink lines: it can help in getting the thin lines smooth and dynamic and reduce little shakiness. It also helps in general very low quality pointing devices or tablet with noisy or badly shielded detection of events and coordinate. On my side, because I often paint more than I draw on computer, I use it with the final long brush strokes with "rigger" type of brush, but because my style starts to get more and more fragmented into many dirty brush strokes and I like to show them as raw as I can, I rarely use it.
Merci pour ce tuto ! Quelle est la différence entre cette option et la "brosse dynamique" directement inclue dans la boite à outil ?
Alors cet outil agit avec un centre de gravité et orbite autour si je me souviens (je ne l'utilise jamais, une vieillerie de version de Krita qui a plus de 15 ans et est resté là, car à l'époque les dev acceptait beaucoup de "pourquoi pas" sans avoir encore même une idée de ligne éditoriale ou de cible utilisateur ou utilisatrice). C'est un outil assez difficile à utiliser et je n'ai jamais trouvé d'application pratique. Le stabiliser, quant à lui, est plutôt sur un lissage de chemin.
thank you
Great video, I had no idea about weighted being a legacy option. One question, if you're not using the stabilizer do you leave it in "basic" or "none"?
Thank you. The default is "Basic" , in Basic mode Krita trim a bit the events in case your tablet gives too many inputs and smooth the coordinates for an optimal line. In "None" it's directly the coordinate of the tablet (for the best or the worst).
ok, but how do I make the lines thin?
The longer and the thinner makes it more difficult. It's often necessary to break down long lines into multiple segment to improve dexterity.
I have a question, do you yourself use a stabilazer when drawing? Thank you!
Hey, yes, but it depends the brush. The studies I drew today and posted on social media (masto/insta/facebook) had a stabilizer at 42. It removes a slight shake I sometime have.
But once I colored, I turned of the stabilization.
Merci!
I didn't find the tool options 😢 in dockers please someone help me
You can add it from settings > dockers
what s the difference betwwen the stabilization option and the dynamic brush? Btw why stabilization is active on the eraser aswell? i want a normal eraser dont tell me i have to unselect the stabilizer option every time i use the eraser 🥶
Hey, the dynamic brush dynabrush is mostly an engine around weighted and 'gravity' point. The stabilisation is more a method of smoothing input coordinate.
Yes, stabilisation is global to the "type of tracing". In Krita their is no "Brush tool", it's a freehand tracing tool with a brush icon. And eraser in freehand tracing mode is similar to the brush. That's a deep architectural issue of Krita since more than a decade; one that favor painting workflow over drawing workflow.
thank you
nice vid.
thank u!
thanks
Talk about the dynamic brush please!
I can try, but I never used this one in 14 years of Krita because the controls with the drag is really like having a truck at the tip of my stylus 😆 , I'll probably put this one in the category of "here for mouse user or for legacy reason". 😃 But because of this, I might be totally biaised, I'll look, maybe the tools received dev and update I haven't noticed that make it worth using it now.
A heretical question: does the brush stabilizer make it viable to paint with the mouse? (my kid has my drawing tablet these days, but sometimes I’d like to draw digitally, too ☺)
Good question. Coloring line art scanned with a mouse is totally possible (I probably spent more than 3 years when I started digital with a mouse and Ps 5.5 on Windows 98). The mouse feels a bit like a spray can (the one for graffiti). A bit of smoothing on the line can probably help a bit. I can't hurt, that's sure.
The main problem about painting with a mouse is the lack of pressure sensitivity. A mouse can be very precise even without a stabilizer, but you'll always lack control over the line dynamics and opacity.
Btw the pioneers of digital painting did indeed paint with a mouse, and have been doing this for about a decade until the graphic tablets became affordable.
Hey, I have questions about the brush if you have time for that
Sure! what do you want to know?
@@DavidRevoy yeah ok…so the brush I use before didn’t work they act like basic brush and try to use other brush,but they all act basic so I was just wonder if you know how to fix it
@@Mia-od6bs I'm not sure what "acting basic" mean exactly here, but if I try to guess, I understand "no pressure input" from the tablet, and so, working "basic" like a mouse would do (no size variation, or no opacity variation). If it is this case, check your tablet driver and be sure to use the latest probided by your brand for the last update of your operating system. Also, the latest Krita version. Aligning all of this and a reboot can already clean up the situation and see if the hardware works as intended.
I also don't know your system, but if you are on Linux, test also the appimage version provided by krita.org within an X11 session. (Krita is not ready for Wayland).
@@DavidRevoy thank you for your help
Anyone please test Stabilizer Mode with Ink pen (my paint). It is producing jagged line for me. Other modes work fine.
Oh yes, it's a known bug reported in 2022: the Mypaint brush engine has its own stabilizer in the options and its not compatible with the built in Krita stabilizer. The bug is here: bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=452811 , add your voice to it if you can.
But how do you know that you're running krita off your graphics card in Linux?
I think you have to explicitly set Krita in the setting to not use graphic card; but I haven't played with this option since a long long time. Last time probably was around 2016 when I had a laptop with a very bad intel GPU and turning all to CPU only was to my advantage for performances. It's a checkbox in Display tab afair.
i dont find that option
Hey, check your docker, it's in the "tool option", also, you must have the brush selected to see it.
@@DavidRevoy Thanks, I found it
TANKKKKKKK
Wayland is so not ready for artists alike.. switched to X11, and it works fantastic for my Wacom Intuos Pro Large
Yes... Unfortunately. Same limitation right now for every artist on GNU/Linux. I'm writing an aticle right now on the topic.
wow …
I personally find the Dynamic Brush tool to be better than the stabilizer tool. Krita is what you make out of it.
Oh yes, for sure, there are a lot of overlaps and duplicate in the "what tool can solve what problems?" Krita's list of feature 😃 I was never a big fan of Dynamic Brush (never used it for anything in 14 years of Krita, to be honest), but good to hear it is used!
Krita needs to make more tablet friendly that's a luxury from going from pc to tablet relax drawing I don't care if they need to charge just get it done they could be a real competitor. I pay for csp because it's faster when working on my tablet than krita.
Tablet friendly is part of the road map!
Français ! j'ai reconnu l'accent
thanks!!!!
you have a bit french accent
hehe, yes; I'm French. And my accent is the result one get when learning English by playing mostly PC video games untranslated and early forums in 2000s ;-)
Pourquoi garder un accent français ?
Pour la classe :)
@DavidRevoy ça se saurait si l'accent français en parlant anglais était classe. Un effort de prononciation fait partie de l'apprentissage de la langue. Tellement terne l'accent français...
I didn't find a shit
what do you mean weighted is the best stabilization method. Stabilizer is overkill even for line art. Stabilizer is good when you want to make stitches and stuff like that. Honestly I think you have an issue with your tablet, Krita does not behave like that.
Nah, the default of "Stabilizer" were ruined by someone who added "Delay" feature to the panel and succeed at imposing it to be activated by default. It spoiled the perception of stabilizer for many artists. Delay is an option of tracing that was for mouse like 3D software (Zbrush, then Blender).
So, the reflex of any user after that was to boycott it once discovering it with the Delay option because it feels wrong out of the box (I saw two live-streaming of Krita artists, they went "nope" after putting "stabilization" on) while the "weighted" has better default that feels more made for inking/drawing. But Stabilizer is more accurate and was written to match other software stabilization (Csp/SAI).
It's better in line smoothing, in finishing lines, and so in predictability. It needs just the good sample count value :) I inked many comic pages with it, and was around when both features were developed.
(edit: but I'm open to feedabck from dev about it, I can be wrong and I accumulated probably many biased ideas and inacurate dev-storys with time, deformed by my memory or part of me who simplify things to store souvenirs more efficiently)
@@DavidRevoy I never noticed this check box next to delay with my dark theme. this was invisible to me if I was not looking for it because of what you said now. It does feel like SAI and such not sure why this is so hidden but the behaviour is almost like entirely different method. Thanks for point it out for me.