I’M BUYING THIS BOAT -1976 TAYANA 37- But we aren’t sailing out of this marina. (Ep. 42)
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In previous videos, we explored several other sailboats, such as the Formosa 51, the Mikelson 50, and even the Ta Chiao CT 54. This week we're looking at a Tayana 37 (CT37) Taiwanese build designed by Robert Perry. She boasts a teak deck, roomy quarters, and needs a lot of work, but if we can get her for the right price, we're willing to take on the challenge! sirenwilliams@thesirenslog.com
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Having the Dickson is nice for northern climes and opens a whole new world to explore. Being cold on the ocean sucks, it's amazing how nice it is to come into a cozy warm cabin after a cold watch.
Totally! Actually we got a phone call today and the broker said somehow it got turned on and was spitting diesel all over the floor bib we didn’t turn it on so, no idea what’s happened unless it was bumped.
I subscribed because I enjoy watching very long projects on boats...chasing rot on this boat will give us all plenty of episodes to watch.
Hahahaha I hope you’re wrong but I know we have our hands full with this one. We will balance work with play, though! Hahah
She is a nice sailboat needs a little fixing for sure
With a re-done deck, probably new chain plates, rigging and possibly new sails, plus a few smaller repairs, this Tayana will be a gorgeous boat again.
It's great to see older boats loved and restored and I'm looking forward to seeing how this project develops! Even projects of this magnitude will consume your lives for a long time but the results will be worth it.
Thank you!! That’s exactly how we feel. I’m a lover of all things old already, just sold my 1915 home for the boat, I still have 3 classic cars, lifetime collector of antiques… I love bringing old things back to life and I have a great appreciation for the old Taiwanese boats. Thank you so much for being here. Truly appreciate it!
I don't have the classic cars but do have a home built in 1908 so can appreciate the labor of love that restorations require. There is a LOT of joy and reward in restoring something of beauty, even if it doesn't always appear to be financially prudent. 👍👍@@TheSirensLog
I agree I'm a sucker for older boats especially those made in Taiwan the craftsmanship is second to none and their wood work is awesome. When looking at Formosas I get lost in the wood work I almost had a 50 ft in WA. Center cockpit oh she was a looker.
WHAT A STUNNER! I hope you get it and I’d love to watch you fix this one up. If you’re going to spend all that time and effort, then there has to be that heart connection with the boat. This one deserves some love. Best of luck.
Thank you Gordon! Subscribe and stick around with us! We love this boat so much.
I cannot wait to see what you two can do with this one. Looking forward for the stories to come. Excited and happy for you two!
Thank you Tundra!! Come visit!!
Love the brass oil lights and great for saving battery on cloudy days.
Totally agree!
the tayana 37 is probably my next yacht…so i’m a huge fan…having completed a major refit on a very similar taiwanese yacht a few years ago i’d advise finding one that has been already done…tearing into decks, chain plates , cap rails, etc, is not in my future…chances are that she needs standing and running rigging among many other very costly items…
id say find one that is mid 1980’s ,has relatively fresh engine that has already undergone complete refit and spend 50-60 k …and you’ll still want to make her your own for another 10k…trust me, this is reality speaking…but i think you’re on right track with this model…cheers!
Oh we know, and agree! But we got a great deal on this one, and that is a newer engine. It’s the yanmar 4JH3 E which is early 2000’s. Runs great, and we can rebuild in the future when necessary. We’d love to have found mid 80’s but we just didn’t and this one was better in a lot of ways we didn’t find in the other Tayanas available. We know what we’re getting into with that deck and with the rigging, and the rigging is the most urgent, by far. We can’t even sail her as she is. Finding one re-done was possible but those had other problems, so…. Pick your poison! Hahah
Lots of Tayana 37 go to external chain plate then your not trying to seal them in the deck something to check out👍👍
Exactly. We already have spoken to the port Townsend place about having them made or we make them ourselves in stainless.
@@TheSirensLog you can also get silicon bronze flat stock (bar) that is impervious to corrosion but portsend foundry has great reputation also where I’m planning to source my chain plates for my Westsail 32
She is a beautiful boat and the years that it was built they had real craftmens.
Si true!
Sounds like you got a boat you love at a price you like with work you can and are willing to do. The rest is just details. Congratulations!
Thank you for being here for it!
Best to you both , solid sea worthy. Nothing that can't be taken care of roll up your sleeves and get to work.
That’s it!! Thank you for watching!!!
Happy y’all found that one!
Thank you!!! 😊
To get a/c to a aft cabin, I ran a 3" flex tube a total of 26 ft with bends and turns. At the end I mounted hi capacity fan to extract the air from the tube. Works great!
Nice!!! I’ll remember that. Did you also install it under the nav station?
Oh! Sorry I don’t know what boat you have. Haha Sounds like it was far enough away though. Good to know I can run it that far.
It was on a old CT48@@TheSirensLog back i the day,
good luck with that one guys ( your sailing that boat back lol ) walt shulz said in a clip i watched last night " you wont find a boat it will find you ! ) all the best
I love that man. And he’s right!!! Even though we were trying to see this one a month ago and plans got messed up and we ended up missing a couple videos through the holidays. Oh well. We saw her this time and she’s a winner.
Yes that’s a Icom HF looks like it’s set up for packet fax mail. Can of worms is close to the target. You should keep the guest quarters small so that they don’t want to stay too long.
Just watched the recent Parlay video which showed two boats that were recently demasted. I think the rigging on this boat needs to be replaced. Love the boat.
Absolutely it does!
Leave the AC where it is and make the other space thenew hanging locker. Easier to build a closet than move an AC
The other isn’t tall enough to support the length of wetsuits and BCs for diving
"Stuff's" about to get real. Love it. ❤
Amen it is!
You guys are buying my boat! Lol! I check yacht world daily to make sure it hasn't sold.. and up pops this video today! Ha! Been watching you guys journey for awhile.. glad to lose it to you guys if I'm going to lose it :) good for yall!! ❤ can't wait to see what you do with her!
Awhh! Hahah We’re sorry!! If it makes you feel any better, the surveyor said we absolutely CAN NOT sail this boat until we get new chain plates and some new rigging, and that’s going to be a whopper of a job. And it fricken leaks, obviously. And a lot of stuff that “worked” in the survey, doesn’t actually work. Hahaha Don’t get me wrong! We love the boat, and she has so many great assets, but man…. Anyone buying this thing needed to have an extra $40k in the bank AND be able to do all the work themselves just to make it sailable and not leak. Nevermind the rest of it. Hahaha And that’s what we have ahead of us! Hahah stay tuned! But yeah, lots of other beautiful Tayanas on the market! Hey there’s one two slips down with exterior chainplates. AND (I’m a broker) we have one listed up the road in Flagler. I’d be happy to show you either of them! Would have to be soon though- we’re pulling out of here pretty quick.
great video and adventure started ! just think of all the fun your going to have
Thank you for being here for it!!!
Lots of work! Good luck
Thank you!!
anderson whiches are the best brand. I am impressed. i shut up now. hope you buy it, it's clearly worth it 🤐
Hahaha Good to know! I don’t have a lot of wench knowledge at all
@@TheSirensLog "Wench" knowledge is second nature to some young women. "Winch" knowledge is earned only by experienced sailors.
I've ran some yanmars with more hours on a charter fishing boat and only had turbo and starter problems. These were 370 horses each and I had 2 but those things are solid if you can confirm they were maintained. Quality engines for sure.
Keep an eye on those Tayana chainplates. They all leak but watch for corrosion and weakness.
Yep. We have other videos where we talk about that. We can’t sail at all until we get the boat north and do a refit.
Good luck. I think you are making a great investment in your future. Sure, the boat isn't perfect, but your budget won't allow for that. You have most of the skills to tackle the projects needed to bring the boat back to what it once was. Have fun & I look forward to following your adventures.
Thank you so much for watching and for the comment, Rick. We truly appreciate your positivity and we agree. We got the boat for a good deal, and we know we have major projects, but we also know that we are capable and have the resources, and it allows for us to make money as we work. We just have to get her 1000+ miles home. Hahaha 😂 And the rigging is absolutely shot. We hope to balance work with play over here. If you aren’t already on our Patreon, even as a free member, feel free to join because we’re ahead over there. Thank you for being here!!
Glad y’all bought it!! It’s going to be worth it and the diesel looked very healthy for the outward appearance,, glad y’all found a diamond that will serve a purpose for a long time 🙏⛵️ just subscribed
Diesel sounds good and it’s only 20 years old so that’s nice!
Finally, a decision.
It’s a big purchase not to be taken lightly.
Well glory be ! I do believe Hell Michigan froze over ! LOL .I didn't think you would find a vessel that pleased you , your husband on the other hand likes almost everything as long as his short list is met ! Well all i can say is I hope you get it ! But the way TH-cam works its probably at your home marina now ! That dingy needs a 1969 6hp Johnson and i know where there is a few of them ! lol
Ha! I would LOVE a 69 Johnson. I had a 70’s Johnson but it was stolen. You’re right about the TH-cam timeline. You should be over on our Patreon, even the free version, to see things in real time. We’re a little bit ahead, for sure. Today is a big day for us over here! 😉
This boat seems to tick most of the boxes for you both, I hope you come to agreement.
I have a 38' Pearson with a 16k ac. In Mobile Al. in August, it was barely big enough. The hatch in the head countertop is meant to be a laundry hamper. My aft head is so equipped. Has a cloth bag snapped into the inside perimeter of the hatch. I thought it gimmicky at first, but it has proved useful.
The SSB radio and Pactor modem would allow you to send and receive text only e-mail (very slow baud rate), and receive GRIB weather files. I have a slightly newer model SSB. Technology has nearly completely overtaken this equipment, but it is a communication device with quite a long range. There is a steep learning curve to operate it.
Oh I like the idea of having the bag in there for laundry. In previous boats I’ve lived on, I’ve used that cubby in the V berth that had the wood lid. But a bag in there seems better, if I can rig a way to put it there
So many people seem to want things from your videos that I don't think you are wanting to put in them. What I've seen is REAL! Real people, looking at real boats and asking/thinking/saying all the stuff that thoughtful, knowledgeable buyers ought to be asking/thinking/saying. Kinda seems like the armchair boatwrights would prefer serious consideration of a boat that needs "lots of work" - like replacing a bilge pump and giving it two coats of paint. Sounds like you bought this one. I wish you joy from the work you do on it, sunny skies, fair winds and storms that you can weather comfortably.
Thank you!!! We appreciate that. Yes we bought her and we looked at so many, even over the years, and the fact is that all boats either need a ton of work now, or they will soon enough. In some of our videos we showed great boats (the Mikelson being one) that definitely needed work and was due for the same things all boats become due for but many people saw it as a terrible boat for needed what any 80’s boat would need. Truth is, we presented this boat a little differently and everyone loved it. What they don’t know is that this boat needs a LOT more work than that Mikelson did- and Hal argues that, but it’s apples to oranges. New engine? Or new deck? Or new rigging? Pick your poison. lol 🤣
Keep the 16 in the salon and put a 5 in the v berth area that will cool the head as well
I was kinda thinking if we moved that 16 to the salon it would cool the whole boat, ya think? She’s only a 37 and a lot of that is bowsprit. Hahaha
@@TheSirensLog If she's a 37, then she's 37 feet long stem to stern. The length of the bowsprit is not included in that number. Correct me if I'm wrong after you take tape measure to her.
I live on my tayana 37 20 years now 1977 hull184.
I am anchored off western sumatra today on my way tomorrow on a 5 day passage to christmas island to seek asylum from the thing that started 4 years ago. Hopefully get a stamp in my passport and leave the next day to singapor.
I will e mail you if you buy this old girl . I know every single inch of these. chainplates need to be re built. Easy job and you thru bolt the new ones all the way through the pod and hull. Bullet proof
Good luck with your journey!! Good to hear from you. Well, hop on our Patreon, things are more real-time, but yeah the chain plates are shot, and I think we will move them to the outside.
I think when you start digging for fixes, your fixing will never end. Surface rot turns into structure rot.
Totally
Beautiful boat, Best of Luck!!!!
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Difficult to judge on a video but I think you'd both feel proud sailing into any anchorage on Her. If the AC placement is your main concern then you really don't ave a concern. Sail to Thailand and replace the Deck or rip it off and go glass. All other issues look fixable. I think its your boat.
We love it!!!! And yeah there isn’t a thing on the boat we can’t make right. I’m moving that AC! Hahah I agree on decks. Is Thailand probably the cheapest place to get teak right now? I was thinking Central America but prices down there are going up so fast.
Central America is certainly much closer . Probably best to do away with wooden deck , maybe keep cockpit ?? you'll sort it out no doubt. @@TheSirensLog
Hopefully by now you would have figured out that the stove and sink are in each other’s spot. You’ll more than likely flood while heeling on the port side and you can’t cook
I’ve seen other Tayana 37s that were the same!
Sailboat data must have that wrong not surprised I’ve seen things wrong on other boats too but generally pretty accurate
It's floating, that's a good sign
Hahah true!
Love the Tayana 37 !!! We owned one back in the late 90's and lived aboard
Nice!!!
Very good candidate and hope they offer is accepted. Then it is all Game On!!
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If you’ve ever watched the sailboat show Magic carpet on TH-cam. He’s doing a whole refit. They use some sandpaper that had ceramic in it I believe it was and he said it was incredible and believe me they did a lot of sanding so that might be something you wanna look into
Oooh yes I’ve heard of them, and I don’t really get deep into the sailing channels, but I know who they are and I like them! I will look into that for sure!!! Thank you!
I think the brightwork is the last thing you need to worry about on that boat. CHAIN PLATES, and all the associated, WOOD chainplates are attached to, RIGGING, and DECK REPLACEMENT or GLASSING THE DECK are the big jobs. Don't fall in love with a boat that needs so much work that it exceeds your budget. Add another 50 percent over an above your anticipated expenses you didn't see coming. Ask me how I know.
Oh we know as well. I actually deleted a bunch of video for the video because I was told I was going on and on about the big jobs on the boat. Can’t please everyone. We know we are in for some big work. Stay tuned.
Remove the large a/c and put in 2 smaller lower power units.. one fwd and one in main cabin.
Nothing there to scare you really... The cockpit hatch will be easy... the teak isn't structural so making a new lid to recover will be a breeze... I'd buy it... Good luck with the offer...
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I like your new boat!! Enjoy!😊
Thank you!!!!
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Byes you should buy it looks absolutely amazing
Stay tuned!! Please subscribe and thank you for the comment. You should hop over to our patron even on the free version, because it’s more real-time. We love this one.
Sound quality no back ground noise when speaking, we all forget at times.
Di you mention the price?
This should cover some sandpaper..
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Oh my goodness Rick!!! Thank you!!! Thank you to the moon and back!! We will absolutely put this toward working on our teak. You are too kind. Thank you so much for being along for this crazy ride and helping us give life to a old boat.
Looks like a well built boat, I like it.
Thank you!!
Good luck 😊
Thank you!!! Hop on our Patreon! We’re ahead of TH-cam over there!
Absolutely buy it ❤️❤️
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34:09 LOL, yes you do! Good luck and Godspeed on the refit. Hopefully will not be too many surprises. Wind vane in the pilot berth was a score, that berth is a nice size. I like the look and blue water capabilities of canoe stern but the critic’s argue that the design is not up to “modern” standards (I.e. sugar scoop or fold down swim platform) Just wondering your thoughts. Congrats on the purchase and look forward to your sponsorship deal!
hahahah Thank you! Yeah, honestly, swim platforms and sugar scoops are REALLY practical for our lifestyle- surfing, diving, swimming, and having a dog on the boat. However, it's hard to find a classic boat that we like with something like that unless you get into some of the 90's models Taiwanese boats, and they'e just the right mix. Of course, getting one in our price range is tough, and they're not everywhere. We had a Taswell listed with our brokerage but its $200k. Gorgeous though! But that's ok. We love this boat and we will make it work!
@@TheSirensLog Did a quick YT search for the Taswell, and yes, gorgeous. I have an affinity for Pilothouse designs, enamored with the Fisher 37 with a similar canoe stern. I’ve seen a few where owners have added swim platforms but the execution to me leaves a lot to be desired. So in my mind I envisioned a platform that could be broken down and stored onboard when not at anchor … thinking hyperlon tubes and teak grates that set in a collapsible frame… there is probably a good reasons why I have never seen something like that, I’m just an armchair sailor, admire you two for making it happen…
Thank you! Yes, I've envisioned the same, many times over, actually. Something lovely and teak, maybe folding so it fits in the lazarette and removable from the hull or however it attaches. It would be a tricky thing to design but surely could be done. We do a lot of surfing and diving, so I expect we may one day play with that idea. Love those Fishers too!!!! @@RicCross
One fact: The journey to Guatemala and Honduras is approx. 800nm from Fl. Crossing the Gulf Stream is tiring, for that reason you must go down to Cuba Cabo de San Antonio, you register in that small marina for the days you want to rest but you go to the ship channel, a group of islands to the east of Cayo Punta outside , there you can spend the night inside the canal,Eyes YOU WILL NOT BE IN NEW YORK and from the cape to the south 190⁰ straight as you go you will arrive in Guatemala, be careful with the atolls of Belize, otherwise you will go to Guatapeor
Haha nice! Hopefully we will get there sooner than later! We aren’t taking off long term right away.
There’s another Tayana 47 in Deltaville I would suggest that you look into Coelan wood treatment for the bright work.
Too late. We bought this one. Haha
Ac can go under vberth. I’m sure that water pickup is closer and you’re probably need ac for sleeping more then anything.
Fuel tanks are under V berth. They’re not supposed to be, she wasn’t designed that way, but the yard did it to a bunch of the CT37s
This was always one of my all time favorite boats Bob Perry designed I think
Same! It’s probably his best in my opinion
The dream boat
Two boxes of Contractor garbage bags, Park the boat next to a Dumpster, bring your coveralls! Get good and Drunk---------next month you won't have Time or Money!?-------Mikey, Belfair, Wa
Lol I’m going to empty the boat when I get there but I’m not disassembling the boat. Hahah
I know you have a passion for classic yachts, just wondering if you would consider a slightly newer design? There is a 1981Gulfstar 39' Sailmaster for sale in Gulfport - asking $50K. I know this is more than you want to spend, however, this boat has a low hour diesel (1,200 hours), looks to be in exceptional condition, and gives you more room, light, and sailing performance than the Tayana. Best of all, you don't have to do any major rebuilds or spend tons of money and time replacing teak decks or chainplates, you can actually go sailing and enjoy life in your time off! In the long run, it would be far cheaper to own than the Tayana. Gulfstar was at the top of its game in 1981 and building perhaps the best mass production boats in the world during the early eighties.
Yes! When you say “newer” and mean 80’s, I like you. Hahhha The Mikelson we were looking at was an 87! That’s why I liked it because it was newer and better built than it’s predecessors. I don’t think people realized that. But yeah the Gulfstars are fantastic! But… we got a steal of a deal on this one. 😉
She's a looker, love all the wood work. Looks like a great opportunity.
Thank you!!! Stay tuned!
Beware of the chain plate knees. The wood underneath the fiberglass are known to rot, especially with a leak like you have going on. Best wishes.
Thanks! Yep, we’ve already priced out new chain plates to go on the exterior, we’d move them. It’s all in the works now!
Teak decks that are bad scare me… Guy at my marina paid 43k to repair his…
Repair? Or replace? I would never pay that much to repair- I’d do that stuff myself anyway. But it is expensive. To replace is double that.
That windvane is a $5-8k item--good score!------Mikey
Yep! Stoked on that!!!
A 37 min video for a 37 ft boat… I saw what ya did there. Haha… I also do love the commitment you both have to your crafts; both making videos and working on boats.
Thanks so much for being here for it!!!
Love your post. You both are great. As a PC native, one day we would love to meet you guy's. The Best of luck always.
Thanks so much for watching!! Absolutely! You guys still live around here?
Wow, i think your getting closer owning your own sail boat. Best if luck with your decision. What ever you buy do make sure to have the funds to get it into the condition that you both want it in. I bought a fixer upper, & then the interest rates went through the roof & i now have an awesome boat that just sits on the mooring.
So frustrating. Good luck & keep up the good work 👍
Oh man that’s frustrating and we know that feeling!!! Yeah we got a good deal on her so we have some money to put into her, and we can also get her home and continue to make money this summer while we continue work. Lots to do!!
At 19:00 you just found your hanging locker/closet !
Noooo!!!! Hahaha It won’t fit up there and we need that space. It has no other option than to be under the nav station.
Lol@@TheSirensLog
Go with external chainplates if at all possible. And titanium if you can. Those two chainplates that appear in the video gotta go. If the exposed sides of the plates look that bad, the reverse sides will be worse and the portion of the plates piercing the deck, worse still. As a boater I love the teak. As a surveyor, I hate teak. Missing bungs warn of water below and in the FRP below. Any rust in the rigging shows the inner wire is chafing and rusting. Chainplates and rigging gotta be done soon. I would not sail it very far before you do. On the decks, I don't know your resistance to pain, but good luck!! I've surveyed a couple of Tayanas over the years. Lovely boats with the nickname "Leaky Teakies".
Hahaha Oh we know. She’s the right boat for now and she needs love. We knew right off the bat we’d have to deal with the deck and replace all the rigging and chain plates. We’re going to move them to the outside. Stay tuned!
The condition of those chain plates doesn’t give me a good feeling about how that engine has been treated for the past 3700 hours.
I agree with you there. I think they were running that engine a lot and not sailing but i don’t know if it’s because they knew the rig was shot or if they just weren’t sailors. There are several things around the boat that lead me to believe the current owners weren’t sailors at all and were just Diesel Dan’s.
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Will add this though- that engine looks good and sounds good, and we got a sweet price on the boat. A very fair price, I’d say. So if we HAD to put a new engine in here one day, I wouldn’t be that upset about it.
I would pull the deck and glass it over. Do the work yourselves to keep cost down. That should take care of your leak. Then your going to have to address the rig, you don't want to loose the rig. Then the steering cable needs to be inspected, it probably needs to be replaced. Lots of work but it is doable if you have funds so I would borrow more money than is needed to buy the boat. Get it home and get cracking, good luck 😀.
Thats the plan! We’re cash buyers though, and we got the boat at a price we can do the work, and continue to work and make money while also working on the boat. The deck needs to come up and we can’t even sail on those chain plates, and that steering cable needs to be replaced asap. The surveyor pretty much confirmed all of those things as well. Might be motoring home!
Hi guys , the chain plates can be moved to outside of hull with out Changing rigging length.
3700hr on engine is no problem just get an oil analysis (cheap).
Engine runs 👍
HF radios require perfect installation to work but nobody needs one any more. Vhf and a starlink is way better.
Davit set up is great and unusual to have on T37! Bonus!
Is deck cored ? If not then deck may not be an issue . Some of these teak decks are thicker!!! Maybe sand and recaulk?
Any leaking inside???
Hull is solid on these!!!
Is coach roof fiberglass or wood ? Is rotted wood just a cover?
Fixed up these are well sort after so a good boat to buy.
Furler looks very small , not for reefing only rolling up.
Any unused rigging looks like that but it’s big size!
Strong looking steering mounting /sheaves etc .
They sail well.
FYI wood in head may be heavily stained but live with it !
Bigger boat bigger problems this is still a lot of boat!
Hope price is ok !
Agreed run boat home the way it is and you can fit under the marathon bridge save many miles!!!!
Cheer Warren
HF radio still has its uses if someone cares enough to learn how to use it properly and doesn't require "perfect" installation. In an emergency, the standing rigging can be quickly and easily converted into an antenna system. Where VHF will get you tens of miles of range and is great for local communicatons, HF will get you hundreds, even thousands of miles of range without having to rely on someone else's network of equipment like starlink. The biggest advantage to starlink is its data speeds under optimal conditions. There are still maritime nets on hf that seek to connect ocean going vessels with the mainland, offer assistance, etc. One mistake I think many offshore sailors make is discounting HF because it's currently gone out of style. That Icom 706 is still a highly desirable radio.
@@bryanirwin5473 HF does have its uses , look at the round the world OGR race at the moment , the boat Maiden is getting daily weather forecasts from England and sharing with the rest of the fleet. Maiden is a metal boat that makes the grounding required for HF work properly , most of the other 12 boats are unable to get HF working . It really does require a lot of knowledge to set up and maintain an HF setup on a boat at sea.
( this race has technology limited to 80’s so no starlink etc).
In an emergency a simple conversion of rigging to an antenna is never going to happen at sea unless you have some special trick that nobody else knows about.
Cheers Warren
Thanks to both of you guys for the comments.
Hal has a license to operate that radio and knows them very well, so we’re good there and happy to have both.
The rigging and deck are both done and we knew that before really looking at the boat, and the plan would be to get those projects done this year, and to move the chain plates out.
@@TheSirensLog great , look fwd to finding out if offer accepted . FYI the wood block fiberglassed over that chain plates are currently bolted to are prone to rot …. Just fyi not that you don’t expect it!
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@@Cheers_Warren Thanks! Yeah we still have to cut the knees and everything out of there when we move the chain plates to the outside.
Most pleasure boats the engines rust out before they wear out. Just look at the sails to see the balance. Motoring sailors are a real thing.
Totally and I think they were. Brand new sails in bags never used. Early 2000’s engine with high hours. lol
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That sounds exactly like it..🤣
Avoid balsa core deck designs..
Hope u guys get it 🤞🤞
We did!!! Stay tuned!
Not bad little TLC
Yup!
I like it but Chain plate and bulkhead issues scare me. Typical of a boat this age and price there will be more than meets the eye in repairs. I see dollar signs popping in the air like bubbles.
Yep yep. We know. Chain plates are toast for sure.
Lots to do and buy. What is the objective? Work or sail?
Both!!
Great boat😅
Thank you!!!
Your going to throw a lot of money at that one 😅
Yep, but we got it at a good price
At the end of the day it's up to you, you know your ability's, your budget etc. Maybe also look at some other brands of boat just for comparison?.
Yeah, I’m also a broker so we know a lot of boats, and I’ve worked on a lot of boats and I’ve shipped a ton of boats over the years and I’ve had my heart set on a Taiwanese leaky teaky for a really long time. We know the hell we’re getting into. 🤣😂
Been waiting for a Sounding Hammer & Pinless Moisture Meter to appear in one of your Buyers Surveys. (snake cameras are cheap as well).
Stay tuned.
Yep, I keep threatening to buy one but just haven’t. Of course, we know boats and have worked on and around boats for decades, but we aren’t doing an actual professional survey ourselves. The idea, as knowledgeable buyers, is to go through the boat as best we can within the small time frame that we have (usually an hour, maybe less, maybe more) and get a solid understanding of they systems and everything happening with the boat, especially in terms of leaks and rigging, etc. of course, on the Tayana, it’s very easy to see that the rigging needs full replacement and the deck has caused damage and leaks. I don’t *need* a moisture meter to tell me that. I know that. In fact, I’d be silly for thinking that I could pull out a moisture meter in hopes of it telling me there’s no moisture and my teak deck is fine. It’s not fine. It’s a 1976 teak deck- they’re never fine. lol So yeah. On that Mikelson, we didnt need to do that because we had a survey on that boat that was done a couple of weeks prior and that was lightly mentioned in that video so we already knew that there was moisture around those fittings. This happens on all boats anyway, and its not a good reason not to buy a boat unless one is just looking for something “new” and plans to sell it before it needs any real work (but even a brand new boat with a warranty will need ongoing work). For us, we can do this stuff, none of this is new for us, and we plan to find the right boat and keep it, so the idea is to find the right boat and then decide if she’s worth the projects we will have immediately. Even if the boat was $100k more and those projects were done, she’d still need other things and eventually she’d need heavy work again. That’s just owning a boat long term.
@@TheSirensLog I've had several boats and lived aboard. (and VW Vans) I'm a carpenter & welder by trade. I'm looking for a ketch rig at present, and some I've viewed so far have been needlessly destroyed by owners ripping into and not having time or talent to refit/reassemble. Did your surveyor mark out the specific damaged areas? Will you be doing the repairs? I'm 70 now and am willing to fix/upgrade only what's actually broken. (I'll impress later, by polishing the bronze & ss when all else is in a serviceable state). Those new fangled diagnostic tools are the ones I use to precisely outline the areas of water damage ''before'' drillin & rippin into entire cored decks, hulls, bulkheads, and cabin sides. I've also missed hidden , not at all visible damage due to the area drying out in a period hot, dry, weather. Now if able, I run a garden sprinkler on the deck or Rv roof for a few hours, then let topsides air dry before testing for moisture from the interior. The other tool I found very helpful is a Wire Tracer, > www.amazon.ca/wire-tracer/s?k=wire+tracer < for when you get around to rewiring your (colour-uncoded) Tanya or most any other old boat, VW-Rv, car or house with rats nest wiring. (I use the Sperry)
Its an Icom 706 MKII G amateur radio. You need a ham radio license to use it.
I am FCC licensed. It's a requirement for ocean endorsements.
We got that
I just installed a 10,000 BTU system on a Contest 38s which has an aft cabin as well as the traditional salon and v-berth forward. We are in the BVI, and 10,000 BTUs is more than enough. I used a 16,000 BTU unit for the salon/galley/workshop/ quarter cabin area of my Hans Christian 48 and in the Caribbean it was just fine.
I mention this only as a guide for anyone thinking of adding a/c to their vessel. Good luck and good sailing.
Thank you!! That was a point I made to Hal as well. I really think MAX 12k is all we would need. If it doesn’t fit under the nav station we will get a smaller one
Having an over sized AC is better and works better it doesn't have to work as hard and if done right it will use less energy because it will shut off when it get to temp if it's undersized or the "right" size when hot it can barely keep up and run constantly using power.
I believe you've found a vessel you and Hal agree on.......that you'll make into a fine bluewater boat........i look forward to the process
Thank you Steve!!!
Giday people's, hmmmm, she needs new rigging, u both want to sail and to do that safely, she needs some love and $ input. The decks have me worried only on the cost to replace. Well goodluck 🇦🇺👍have fun.
Hey! Thanks for watching again! You’re totally right. The rigging is shot. Hahaha I didn’t go into it (Hal said it was fine) on video but that boat needs new rigging quick and those chainplates are bad. We did a survey to confirm some things and find all the other million little things and he said the same. And the exact same thing I said about the deck. He said it isn’t causing major internal structural damage so ride them out and replace decks sooner we than later so that’s the plan. I’d prefer to replace with teak but…. We all know what that costs!! 😂
i didn’t realize you bought her…congrats !…she does seem to have good bones….can’t wait to see what you do with her….cheers!
Thanks!
Have you noticed that you are a redhead? You will really like as much shade as you can possibly get. Because of your fair skin.
I was also a professional surfer and surf coach for the majority of my life. I also worked freelance on yachts and sailboats since 2009. lol I’ve spent my entire life in the sun and I do get pretty dark. However, I’ve also had my battles with melanoma. It just is what it is! It’s who I am.
I guess you get that from Sue but you tan nicely for being a red. I've seen your older videos too.@@TheSirensLog
Pactor modem under the Ham radio gives it away
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If you have 1976 money I suppose this boat is as good as any. the question is do you have the tenacity and resources to fix the old girl up. teak and marine plywood are like gold The deck is a massive project the damage caused by the leaky chain plates is likely fat more extensive then you realize, I wound not go blue water sailing without modern reliable navagation communication. Did anyone look at the condition of the engine oil??? sometimes it will tell the story of neglect. In my opinion this is a 6 month minimum repair project.
Youre 6 months is very optomistic. Mine took 20 years. And many things 3 times again. But in exotic ports all around the globe
That’s just boat ownership. It doesn’t end.
Yeah we know! And we do have the resources. We aren’t sailing her anywhere until this rigging is out of here.
Wiring nightmare!! Bad Deck issues!! just subscribed. It's going to be interesting if they accept your offer.
They accepted! See the video after this one. New videos every Sunday.
We all knew you would end up with a 'leaky teaky'! I am sure you will figure it all out. Congratulations!
Of course we were going to end up with a leaky teaky!
2 smaller air units may be the way to go
Water will soak and spead for a good distant as it rots it acts like a spunge and hold more and more water and does more damage.
Totally. That’s what wood is good at.
I love this Perry design, built in Taiwan in 1976 and believe you both seem to like her also, but I'd be leery about offering more than 21,000 USD. The engine is fine, the A/C unit could be moved aft, possibly in the aft lazarette, the decks will cost $8,000 to replace and rigging plus new sails another $11,000. After your finished you'll have approximately $42,000 in. There is a 78 Hood 43, glass with teak decks and new sails for sale at $53,000; so look before you deposit. Thanks again and enjoy.
Well, the boat is worth a lot more than $21k, but we didn’t pay the asking price, I’ll say that. Just those wind vanes alone are around $8k and our is in mint condition. The boat has a new set of sails still in the bags in the lazarette. The deck and the rigging are the major projects, definitely, but we can tackle those. To replace the rigging and chain plates and have someone else do it would be well over $20k, but we can do the rigging ourselves. We will also move the chain plates to the outside of the hull. The teak deck would be 35k to have someone remove and do fiberglass, but that’s also something we will definitely do ourselves. When we are done, we will likely have over $50k in between what we paid, the cost of redoing the deck and the rigging, plus all the odds and ends to do around the boat, and at that point it’ll be worth probably at least $90k. There are some selling for $85k now that aren’t in as good of shape as this one will be when we are done.
I just stumbled across this blog and since we once bought a Tayana 37, cutter rigged, back in our younger days I'm excited to see how the progress goes. Ours was a project boat also, but definitely not this much of a project.
Well we’re glad to have you here with us!
If the bilge isn't too shallow. run the AC duct under the sole? Maybe the loops are for a lee cloth.
Hmmm maybe! Actually we found a compartment we can empty out that goes really deep in the V berth. The fuel tanks are up there so a lot of that space is taken, but it might work.
nexus is a good brand auto pilot
Thanks! I hope so cause that’s what we got! Lol
We always installed AC units under a berth. Personally I would never have a canoe stern. Real estate on a boat is too valuable to give up for the sake of a pointy butt. We crossed the Pacific on a Passport 50, I found no advantage in the canoe stern. My Bob Perry designed Islander 41 was just as fast and more comfortable with more usable space.
Totally agree, and believe me, we’d hoped to go bigger but the budget kept shrinking and we needed to insure we had plenty of money left in the bank to do work because it doesn’t matter what boat you buy, there will always be work. There is no space under our berths unfortunately.
That's a ham rig and tuner for the backstay antenna. You need to get licensed by FCC .
Yeah Hal has the radio operator unlimited I believe it is. I never got mine years ago when I was working on yachts and was doing a lot of that stuff.
fingers crossed for you guys
Stay tuned!
Had A 40 foot North American perry design he was on Facebook till about a year ago. this boat is gorgeous. Will definitely hold its value with some hard work, but so long anything under 20 Gs and it’s a steal…. take it down south for cheap labor probably get the new deck 20 s???? i’m just a dreamer from Michigan mines are fiberglass the NV I have for the wood will never die…ps I would fit perfectly in the Pilot berth …….
Hahah You coming along?!? We didn’t get it under $20k but…. We did get a good deal. I would LOVE to redo the decks down south somewhere but teak is so expensive now that might be super hard. It would probably cost us $85k. Dunno!
Thanks!
Oh Rick thank you so much!!!!! Happy to have you here!!!