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The Realities of Owning an OLD Sailboat (Ep. 45)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 2 มี.ค. 2024
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In previous videos, we searched for our perfect boat. TWO WEEKS AGO, WE FOUND HER! This week we're on our 1976 Tayana 37 (CT37) Taiwanese build designed by Robert Perry. She boasts a teak deck, roomy quarters, and needs a lot of work, and the projects have begun! sirenwilliams@thesirenslog.com
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The dog has the right attitude... Not bothered at all... It's a cool boat... Just get it home...
The dog is great for your channel.
Your hard work will pay off in the end. Stick with it. Thanks for the episode 🙌
Thanks for watching!
Paint scrapers are for sale at the paint store.
I build wooden boats in Australia 🇦🇺 and we put hard sealant tubes out in the the sun or in a bucket of hot water before use to make it more easy to use out the gun!!!
Nice! I will remember that!
Not even started the refit yet and I’m loving your videos 😂
Thank you.
Thanks man!!!
Please be very careful using acetone inside your boat. TH-camrs Barefoot Doctors' catamaran burned to the waterline because of an acetone vapour build up in the bilge!
And a spark
Noted! Thanks for the reminder.
The only way to stop that boat from burning is to keep her in a vat of ice !!!!! That girl is so pretty ..lol
Definitely need good ventilation when you're using any type of paint removers and Siren, you should really try to get yourself some protective gloves for your hands. That stuff is horrible on your skin. I know I've literally burnt my fingers touching some paint strippers just by accident when stripping furniture. Best of luck though, I know this all has to get very frustrating. You seem to have more patience than most would.
Thank you!! Well, I knew I would be stripping that paint when I bought the boat, I just didn't realize they'd literally painted it not knowing that the sump pump didn't work, and just painted it closed. For a true paint stripper, I'm absolutely wearing gloves and I have a decent respirator too for stuff like that. This stuff was super mellow, not really strong (even though I had plenty of ventilation). Thanks for being here for it!@@melissaboutwell2001
Put sealant in a bucket of hot water for 5 mins, it'll be much easier.
Thanks! I ended up buying an electric caulk gun. It works lovely! And it’ll be a nice asset for the future on this deck.
The outboard segment had me dyin laughing 🤣❤
get yourself a battery powered muiltitool and remove the strip either side get yourself some scrap decking remove the broken bits clean and cut a bit out the scrap to fit, glue down and chalk, will last until you can do the whole thing but will stop the water getting in
Thanks! I have a multi tool and very well may do something like that. Was hoping just to tighten up the deck quickly like this just for the rain on the way without getting into a big project but once it’s home we need to figure out if we want to “patch it better” for a while while we tackle the rigging or just let it go until we can pull it. I’m probably going to want to patch it again.
It took me about 5 days solo to completely remove my old teak decks and fill all the screw holes with epoxy. On my tayana 37
Then it took 2,000.00 in treadmaster diamond and 500.00 in epoxy and 2 weeks to put it down.
It came out amazing. That was 2008. It's still great. I did the desert sand color but I would do the teak color if I did it again.
The only bummer about it is surfboard wax will stain it. It's a bitch to gether off then
You’re totally right about that and that’s something we will be dealing with too!! Haha I don’t travel anywhere without like 5 boards. lol
@@TheSirensLog the fiberglass deck under the teak is supper thick laminate. You do not need to add fiberglass
Also the core is a checker board with resin between each piece so if water gets in to a part it won't travel far.
After 18 years with treadmaster I would do it again. Just not wax my boards on deck
@@evinwhiteson4902 Good plan.
Thanks for that. Yeah a few people had mentioned we may have a different core but… I was just going to confirm with Bob himself and see what the early ones were cored with because we are a first year Tayana.
I’ll help y’all change the deck when y’all get ready to rip it off and replace it. As for your plumbing problems, does it have a macerator unit for your “solids”? I don’t think a bilge pump would handle that crap… Amazon has a few of those listed under $400 that are familiar names to me. Especially Jabsco. Y’all could probably use regular TP too! Until then, it’s the old handicap toilet hanging off the stern with a classy shower curtain around it lol
We do have a macerator. It is on the pump out not the toilet. I don't know if it works. I have to get 3 miles offshore to test it. YES, HELP ME DO THAT JOB. Ideas like that is why I love you.
Hahaha We’d LOVE your help and we love having you around so much Jeremy. We love you. Still half considering salvaging the teak and gluing it down.
@@TheSirensLogThat teak would be so gorgeous restored! I love beautiful woods on a boat or anywhere, really.
For your grate take a Olfa knife and cut the paint in joint on the grate pull the grate with a rope
The rope is a great idea. I am trying that one today.
Don't be disheartened. In the beginning with a new boat a lot of things break but after a few years you know what has to be done and it is not such a big issue. A compost toilet us maybe much cheaper and simpler. A shower can be taken at the marina.....
But I am very lazy.....
I have a Catalac 8 catamaran since 20 years here in the Netherlands.
Oh totally. People were asking us whether or not we did a survey and I had to explain how boats work. Hahaha Just because something works on a survey after not being used for three or 4 years doesn’t mean it’s going to work properly once you start using it. We expected this.
A comment for the youtube algorithm. Paint removal is never fun but can be rewarding when complete. Thanks for the videos. 👍
Amen to that! Hahah
lol Hall, remember, even if you are not even in the state when something goes wrong.... It's always your fault. ( Dang O-rings any how ) Y'all got this. easy peasy just work one problem at a time.
That’s the plan! Haha Thanks!!!
I am learning these things.
@@haltarpley9237 It's a life time course my brother. Take notes. haha
Pro tip: Set your teak sealants in a pot of hot water on the stove. Once the material/outside is warm, it should come out much easier. Also puncturing a large hole helps when opening up the caulk tube. Id change the fuel filter in the outboard, seems like its getting starved for fuel when your compensating so much with the choke. A carb cleaning wouldn't hurt either. $10 your head needs a new joker valve, its a $6 dollar part at a marine store and a 10min fix. As for the sump pump; just leave it draining into the bilge for now; you have larger problems to address, a sump pump is a luxury at this point. Id make a list and prioritize your necessities. Good luck! -Capt. Lo
Thanks, yeah I just ended up buying an electric caulk gun because it’ll be a good asset for working on this deck in the future anyway. I had continually make the hole bigger inside and the nozzle hole bigger. It was coming out of the tube, but not the end, it was just so thick. Could have been an old batch but it did work with the electric.
Oh the sump pump, Hal figured that out and it’s all put together in a way that is totally not ideal. The reason for needing to get in there though is because they had black water leaking into there and it’s tied into the bilge pump. It’s wreaks in there so it would be nice to get it out but we did move to bigger projects.
Welcome to boat ownership. You will get use to your boat quirks and understand her needs.
😊
Oh we’ve both owned plenty of boats before. They ALL have quirks. lol
Well after watching this video I need a break. Worn out. One thing I am happy about is by watching this I don't want a boat !!!!! Ha Ha Good Luck. Love the video. :)
Buying nice things is a luxury of the rich. I have to buy junk and make it nice. LOL
On the teak grate.....Save yourself from unnecessary labor....I would take a plunge cut with a multitool to the perimeter joint.... since you will need to trim that teak anyways for a loose fitting once you refinish & reinstall the grate. The best multitool blades for the buck is EZARC carbide blade (Amazon 3 pack $25)
If the outboard only runs on choke ....The main jet in the carb is plugged
Water pressure! That boat should have an accumulator tank. It uses a bicycle pump to keep air in it. Once you find it you should find your source for the pressure issue.
It doesn't. It doesn't really have room for one. The old pump was cracked on the intake side and was sucking air.
@haltarpley9237 fixed. That is great. Too bad, no accumulator tank. Pressure would be more consistent.
Thanks for watching!!
@@maritimetees2315 I went with a lower PSI pump. 5gph down to 3.5gph. She pumps smooth now.
Wouldnt a razor blade to cut the seal of the paint work
Yeah we tried that first.
You might not have a perfect boat but you have a perfect dog 🐕🥰
Use a knife to cut the paint and open the seam so you can remove the panel. Your dog is really cute.
Thanks! We tried that first. It wasn’t enough.
Use a mult tool
I will use my multitool as a last resort.
Buy a full manual for the boat, then you should see what supposed to be there, unless someone changed part out.
A manual for a Tayana 37?! Do they even make those?! lol Anyway, yeah it’s a 1967 so everything has been changed out probably many times.
We have one, but Tayana 37s, where commissioned boats. Not production like a Hunter. None of them are the same, and it is more of a list of things to do. Very little on how to do it.
Good effort...keep at it..keep learning...
Ive just discovered your channel and am enjoying watching your adventures, what a beautiful boat hope you make it to the uk one day 🇺🇸🇬🇧
Oh we absolutely will. I lived in Cornwall and used to go back for extended visits. I’d love nothing more than to get back over there with my boat.
🥰👍
Apply heat from a heat gun and a teak deck scraper. Just like you would for thick varnish. Easy Schmeezey
Yeah I talked about that when filming but Hal says I talk too much so I delete a bunch of it then the comment section tells me everything I deleted. 🤣😂 It’s ok. Yeah that was a secondary plan. And yes we tried other things before getting to the point of stripping. TotalBoat did just send us paint stripper and varnish, everything I need to re-do the entire head! So that will happen as soon as we get the boat home.
Too late for you now, but you should RUN from a boat with a teak deck. They always develop deck leaks.
You need to replace the joker valve in the head. $15.
Don't crank the starter so long. You will burn it up. If a diesel doesn't fire right when you first turn the key there is something that needs attention.
Y’all have made good progress in understanding this boat systems (fuel system, bilge and sump “Y” or “why” connection ; ) Know this is a bit frustrating, but sure gets better every day, that teak grate is coming around nicely!
It's just a boat. LOL
40 plus years of wood boat ownership speaking........In my town a gallon of asphalt roofing cement costs about $20. It's messy to work with, but it's proven to seal leaks, above the waterline and below. Only temporary and if leak is small below waterline. With a putty tool, or even a bit of plywood, pat the stuff liberally into the leak area and in a wide area surrounding. Press it into the holes and seams. Especially in hot Florida, it will form a tacky surface in a few days. It can be applied to a wet surface, just be sure to press it into the holes and cracks so it sticks good. The stuff is horrible messy, but that's what makes it so good for sealing leaks...it sticks to everything, especially your hands. Added benefit, it kills all bacteria that it touches, no more rot forming if you have tarred properly. Can be thinned with cooking oil to get it to soak into the wood better. Linseed oil is often used, but it's also high priced, special for boat owners...and what is Linseed Oil? It's flaxseed oil, the non food grade of flax seed oil. Cooking oil. Asphalt roofing patch is the modern easier to use version of the tar that wood sailing ships were famous for, and why sailors were often referred to as "tars" or " jack tars". Can be used on leaky decks where you will need to walk, add a layer of cloth, like canvas on top, tacked down and try not to step on it to much till it's hardened up a bit in the sun. Sikaflex and the like is good for sealing windows and port lights. But it's always overpriced in marinas. About 35 years ago, I caulked some of the seams of a wood boat with Sikaflex. It's tough stuff and holds very well...to its self, but not to the wood. A year later I had to pull it out and replace with white lead type caulking. Taking it out was easy, loosen an end and pull, it came out in one long string, all 45 ft. It stuck to its self good, but not to the planking. At 66 years old, I still have a wood boat, that's has been thoroughly tarred top side. No leaks, and it's where there is lots of rain. Hope this helps.
But can you sand it?
Why would you want to? Seal thing off till you are ready to take on the large project of deck/ cabin top replacement, then remove and replace.
@@jimjames5416 because we aren’t 100% positive that we want to throw that teak away. Many people salvage the old teak and glue it back now after refurbishing it, along with new pieces where needed. This very well may be something that we do so I don’t want to use anything but the correct product, something that we can sand, in the event we choose to go that route. The other temporary option is to leave it where it it’s, screwed down, redo a good portion of the seams and sand it and make it “look nice” and also stop leaking for another year, two max, until we can take on the bigger project of removing it. This isn’t the only big project we have with this vessel and we need to be realistic about which projects are more pressing, and unfortunately the deck is secondary to some other things.
Take an oscillating tool with a thin blade and run it into the groove of that shower grate. All four sides. Then you should be able to get the grate up.
Check all your tap washers,pull shower tap shrouds off run taps see if leaking down the wall etc
You have to cut the caulking canister tip, and then puncture the seal inside the tube to get caulk out. Did you do that. First day is like watching a train wreck.
Of course we did. I think it is in the video. The caulk gun was cheap. I bent it when I tried. We have since bought a heavy duty one.
Fuel, Check into stabilizing your new fuel.
1) Old gas sitting to long will evaperate and leave a residue In the carburetor. If its not fresh It's bad.
2) The carburetor has a float bowl. and jets and needle valves. These parts need to be cleaned from the residue of old gas. this is why the carbs must be empty when the motor goes into storage.
3) Remove the spark plugs and read them i.e. is the ceramic cone Tan or Black in color also check for the proper plug occording to the code listed on the plug. The chart will list the proper spark gap required. these little things you should know.
4) Don't presume the previous owner did anything right. Don't expect other poeple to follow the maintinace procedure correctly.
5) Also check the air filter.
6) Also check the oil level and the Oil condition.
Note: when the Oil level is low, some motors have a built in safe guard to shut the motor down.
Well you guys are certainly trying. Hopefully there are more smiles than tears. Try you best to get lot of ventilation in the boat when working with any chemicals. Working with them in any enclosed space can be dangerous. To get than grate in the heads out try a very fine blade on a multi tool and just open up the seem a bit. Wishing you guys the very best. Good luck.
Re : Decks , I have to agree with a the gentleman that commented below, he mentioned roofing cement but, I would also suggest tar even after you redo the decks. YT - Acorn to Arabella sealed his entire deck with tar. It is easily available and reasonably priced. Also, it has a history in wooden boats. Just a thought on the sink in the galley , is there and accumulator in the water line or just the pump ? Just a couple quick thoughts but, I have to warn you , I've only had one cup of coffee. All the best, Hal
love your show hope you keep the dog
We think we are going to.
We are starting to think we just may. He’s so good on the boat and he’s starting to behave. Lol
I’ve stripped so many pieces of old furniture and cabinetry and hands down I will never go back to chemical strippers since using a professional heat gun! It’s the best investment if you have multiple projects plus it’s always handy for McGuivering!
We have heat guns and I may bring that out for the deck, but the head is fully sponsored by Total Boat and they’ve sent us everything to do as soon as we’re somewhere it makes sense to start that.
For the future you can use plastic wrap over that stripper to keep it moist. They also make some kind of scrubby pads to remove the paint, they're blue with white scrubby stuff on the bottom, at least they were 40 years ago when I used some citrus based stripper. Good luck with that floor grate I'm betting the is paint down in the crack that is going to give you fits. Maybe a broken hacksaw blade will help. Keep the good stuff coming.
Thanks yeah I’d mentioned the plastic wrap in the video but didn’t have any and wasn’t leaving the boat again. lol Yes, the paint has definitely gone down the sides of the grate. Everyone keeps commenting to just razor blade the seal but… lol That’s the first thing we did but you’re right, it’s deeper than that. I had hoped the striper would get in there and help but it’s so thick I quickly saw it was probably not going to be the right tool for the job. I’m going to use a proper paint stripper, Total Boat sent us everything I need to overhaul the entire head, and then if I can’t get it up using a few other techniques, I’ll use my multi tool to run down the edges but that’s a last resort. Thank you!!!
Haha, projects galore. Love the increased speed editing stuff. Never had an issue with those sikaflex tubes. Or the hole was too small (you should cut it of the tube and not pinch a hole like you did, or the stuff went bad. Asking for replacement seems logical. Love the way you show the learning experience! 😊
It was a very cheap caulk gun. We bought a new heavy duty one.
Yeah, did doggy chew on your cap? 🤣 @@haltarpley9237
No I kept cutting more off thinking the hole was too small, to a point where the hole was too big to even do the seams and it still wasn’t coming out! I bought an electric caulk gun. On the next tube, I’ll keep that hole small so I can really get it down in there better. I had to caulk over the top, shove it down, then spread it flush…. Kinda a mess. lol I’ll do better next time now that I have a sweet tool.
I think you were perfectly ok Hal, it was just an obvious change. No worries, my lips are sealed from now on 😶 @@haltarpley9237
I just joined your channel, why, I don't know! I've been where you are, and I've been where you are going. The only advise I can give to you is when things are going good and everything is working, go like mad and enjoy every second!
Totally! And we do. Thanks for being here for it!
You're going to have to mechanically force the panel up. If you damage it a little just sand & finish it. That panel should fit kinda loosely. A ¼" gap around it is fine..
Actually an oscillating multi-tool from HF might be just the thing to get the panel out..! A cordless one is less then 40 and would be very handy for lots of chores around all that teak..
I have a multi tool that I bought a couple years ago for the boat, and that will be the next move IF we can’t easy it up. Those grates are very expensive and custom, and while I could likely repair it myself, I want to avoid breaking it or damaging it. At one time, I’m sure it did fit loosely, which is why I’d like to get the paint off and then see how tight it is. I have a couple more things to try to get it up and then I’ll love to something more intrusive. Thanks!
Sooo. Paint remover is just going glue that floor panel down tighter..! Take a box cutter type razor knife and cut open the seams. Worse case, use a mini skilsaw to open up the joints. Its wood, you can build it up after yoi get it out.
We started with the obvious things before creating a paint stripping project. They didn’t work. I do have a multitool I bought a couple years ago for the boat, and I’ll use that if I have to. But in sure you’re right, if the “removed paint” runs down into the cracks and dries, but perhaps not if I get it up fast enough?
0:05 It never should have been painted.. the teak has to breath.. it's all swelled up tight. And the paint coats have glued it together toghter then the original wood. Worse case, cut the teak panel out very carefully, then trim the opening with strips of teak attached with marine epoxy for the panel to rest on.. don't get in a hurry, take your time..
Of course it shouldn’t have. I thought about doing a video talking about teak and why you shouldn’t paint it, especially on an interior and especially in a head, and especially if it’s a wet head. It’s just asking for rot. Of course when I said in another video that I’d have never painted teak in a head like that, I received backlash for putting down someone else’s “ideas”. lol OH well! People have bad ideas everyday.
Hehe... Experience is the best teacher, even if it's from someone else.. u got this..!!
@@martyheaton7442 haha Thanks Marty! I never ever would have done this. Haha I’ve been doing brightwork for 20 years, though not in at least 6 or so years… I can’t see the appeal in painting teak anyway. People AwlGrip it, but…. I’m not one of those people. lol And this looks like latex.
Waving a hand from Northeast Maryland McDaniels marina SVE fellowship bathroom great should have a vacuum pump should be on the panel for shower. Have fun be safe.
Yes but that’s what we were saying, it doesn’t work anymore so we have no way of getting the grate up. We did eventually get it. Stay tuned and thanks for watching!
Surrand wrap will help prevent the stripper from drying out prematurely
Yes I didn’t have any. And I caked it on thick enough that the important areas didn’t dry out much anyway! Thanks!
New old boat, always broken. winch, contact corrosive, either in the winch motor, controller or connector.
Shower grid, use a multitool in the gap.
Gallley fosset - Air is in the lines, hence why its spraying. Maybe a pump issue /needs to be serviced, in the line from the watertank.
Head - Use a bucket if nesseracy. Until the issue is fixed.
Sikaflex tube, maybe gone bad. Happened to me with a brand new tube. Silicone is temporary fix. (not permanent).
Got a feeling that these are just the start, what you gonna find.
Refit/servicing/repairing aren´t cheap on a boat. Takes 3-5times longer. Boat yoga. :)
Love the dog. :)
Totally! Some of the things you mentioned we had already tried or was aware, etc. But yes, it’s a boat. lol always something!
For that stripper the reason you put something over it like cooking plastic wrap is to keep it from drying out. The chemical that removes the paint is in the moisture part and if it evaporates it looses its stripping power
Yraaahhhh we know. Didn’t have any and we were leaving the boat again. Seems like all day is errands. Haha and then you get back only to find out you need something else across town. I needed to get that project started immediately so I went for it and the thicker areas didn’t dry out anyhow.
Thanks for watching!!
@@TheSirensLog I’d have done the same thing in that situation 😂
Wax paper works great - easier to work with than plastic, and the serrated edge on the box makes cutting to size easy. The "safe" strippers really do need 12-24 hours to work, especially with multiple layers of oil based paint. Also if you have latex over oil based, it likely needs a second application since the latex will lift first and pull it away from the lower layers.
I assume that to be exactly what happened because I would assume (and not to be rude, but you learn a little about people when you move onto a boat they owned) she used a latex paint over the satin finish varnish that has been on that teak since 1976. Nothing appears to have been sanded. I kinda had that thought, that it may be something like that with the stripper because of that that but wasn’t sure. In my experience, latex usually peels off oil based paint, but this isn’t peeling off but… it’s old varnish under there so it is more porous I’m sure.
Hello from your VW channel! This reminds me of that movie Captain Ron. lol You guys are living a cool life that's for sure!
Hahaha Nice!!! You found us!!! Glad to have you here, Jamie!
This boat has been setting for a period---Out in the ocean rocking about all that shit in the fuel tank will rock and roll and clog your filters--garanteed!!!----Mikey
I'm just sitting here wondering if by chance you didn't get a survey done before you bought the boat considering all the problems that are popping up. I also thought that maybe the previous owner hard wired the anchor windlass into some other wire other than the one at the switchboard that says anchor windlass or that there is a fuse somewhere that needs replacing...48 years of other peoples wiring sure can be a nightmare.
We got a survey and did a sea trial. It's a boat. Things break on brand new ones.
@@haltarpley9237 Ah ok , so the things you are addressing were known about beforehand...I was getting a bit worried , thanks.
@glenndavis479 Yes and No. Somethings we knew but a lot of this worked during the survey. Some of our problems are just learning 20+ year old systems. Boats break. All of them. New boats break 6 months after buying them. Watch early Sailing Zatara videos. They bought a brand new Beneteau and things broke instantly on it. You just have a warranty on a new boat. Usually 1 to 2 years on systems. A boat is a floating short with metal components floating in salt water getting beat on by the sun daily.
Many times on boats when they’ve been sitting unused for some time and someone comes in for a survey, things “work”, but then after some use, they immediately break. That’s to be expected. A survey doesn’t give you the whole picture, it gives you an idea. We both have enough experience in the maritime industry to know to expect further problems after the survey, but that’s why we wanted a few weeks with the boat before sailing it around the state. We needed that time to break her in again so these things have a chance to break if they’re going to.
@@haltarpley9237 Yeah I do understand that Hal , been there done that...here's hoping the surprises are few and far between.
Owning a boat, break out another thousand
Just about every day around here.
You guys have gotten yourselves into a major project! I think more than you have anticipated. I'm glad it's you guys and not me! To do this while living on board suggests you guys are masochists.
You guys need a temporary place where you can stay until the boat is liveable.
Hahahahah This isn’t really any worse than we expected at all. This is all just basic boat business and things we are fully capable of. This isn’t either of our first boats. We’ve both worked in the maritime industry for our adult lives and have owned boats and still do own multiple. Definitely not more than anticipated. And hey- when you live and travel on a boat and things go wrong, you can’t get off the boat because it isn’t livable. Been there. I’m not getting off this one either.
Why didn’t you run round the edge with a sharp implement first to try, then fit an L shaped tool into the grating and pull, two L shaped tools even better
I did all the obvious things first and then moved to this.
You guys are doing fine
Install a hammer arrester...
Hi your having fun! I'd prefer to be doing what your doing though!
The outboard is probably clogged with ethanol gel ,happens when it sits. fuel is,squeezing thru the gel and just enough to run with
choke on. Remove and Clean carb .......( is fuel cap vent open?)
That long pin you saw in the,caulk gun is to poke down the nozzle to break the seal. Fast cure caulk goes bad fast .the whole tube may be,solid! The 2900 will seal a leak even if not a full cure but try the cheap PL brand at home depot, same stuff!
Wax paper over the stripper stops it evaporating and work for longer.
Try getting a 'hook scraper' it has a large triangle on the sharp end! Then try to find the screws,holding the frame down and remove the entire floor with frame.
Re Wiindlass , looks like there was an old,/dead foot pushbutton switch in the,deck???
Great edit and,music choice
Cheers warren
Yeah, Hal was doing the “poor man’s carb job” with it and has that handled. Thank heavens.
I popped the caulk tube on camera, that wasn’t the issue. I guess some comments are saying you have to soak them in warm water first. Didn’t know that! Haha I bought an electric caulk gun and it’s working lovely. If we do decide to rip up the seams and rehab the deck, it’ll be a great tool. I wanted to use the “correct” products in the event we decide to redo the seams in the deck and live with it for another year, OR if we decide to salvage the teak, this product is sandable. That’s why I wasn’t keen on Hal’s idea to use something different.
A reefing hook is what you’re talking about, and I do have one. I didn’t bring it on deck because I honestly didn’t think I’d be doing “that much” hahaha and didn’t think I’d be pulling any seams. I was hoping to focus on the ones that were already loose. Of course, we know how that goes.
I didn’t have cellophane to put over the stripper and I didn’t to get moving on that and after running errands all day, I refused to leave again. lol The thick areas stayed thick overnight though! Happy for that. I’m going to strip that entire head with stripper soon. (TotalBoat has sent us everything we need for that whole job, so that’s a whole video in itself)
There was never a push button on deck for the windlass unfortunately. That’s what I was saying in the video- that style would be ideal! Having to plus something up everytime, a thing that can get lost or go overboard, isn’t ideal but hey, better than pulling chain.
Rockin Roll ❤ love the Channel 😊
I am surprised Hal didn’t realize she didn’t pop a hole in the seal
That's because neither of us are as ignorant with caulk as you think we are. The first thing I did was pop that hole. I'm pretty sure I even did it in the video.
@@TheSirensLogyea I saw that and I don’t think your ignorant in any way but sometimes that plastic tip doesn’t get it done or you got screwed and it’s dried out. Lol did mean to come across like a asshole txt sometimes just comes out wrong. Peace , and be safe on your first trip.
Did you pop the seal in the caulking tube?
Yes she did. It is in the video.
Sure did. I ended up buying an electric caulk gun. Works beautifully.
Those toilets have a Macerator and this may need service or replacement. Of course rubber hoses and clamps have a usable life span before deterioration takes place.
Macerator. Thank you for a new word in my vocaulary. 👍
Our macerator works beautifully but it’s only connected to the tank via the pump out hose. It’s still a manual toilet from the head to the tank. Hal found a rebuild kit on the boat and rebuilt it and it’s working better now. We still have the smallest tank ever though! Something like 10 gallons.
The stiff wire attached to the bottom of the caulk gun is for breaking the seal on the caulk tube...
I had already done that.
There's an interesting seal inside the tip at the base of the nozzle. 😅
She literally busted it on camera. 2:50
There's a long kinds rod on your caulking gun to poke in the nozzle and penetrate the inner seal
LoL 😂
Wow ! I had my first boat a 35’ sail boat for 12 years , you guys have problems and you need to put them in priority and finish each job completed before moving on or your going to have a a load of problems half done all the time, the grate in the head just comes up , use a hacksaw blade around the outside of the grate and work it up , try to check your bilge pump circuit first , switch, fuse, wires before you check the pump , good luck P.S. I was a mechanic for 50 years and the boat repairs were easy for me , hope your are fairly easy also .
Thanks, yeah we are completing jobs, we just can’t not move to the next more pressing thing when there are many things to do. It doesn’t mean important jobs are being abandoned, it just means we don’t have time to run to the store everytime we dig into something and realize we need something. Better to move back to another project until we have a few things we need that day and then go at once. We’re doing a lot more around here than we’d ever have time to film. Projects are getting completed, but some things are being prioritized over other for sure.
We know the grate “just comes up” but it doesn’t because it’s painted and swollen and I don’t want to break it. Not sure if you’ve ever replaced one of those but they aren’t cheap to have made. So! I have taken that job carefully and slowly and we did try numerous “obvious” ways of getting it up before going to greater lengths.
Tender’s outboard needs a carb rebuild, sure you already know that. But hey it runs
All call tubes with a removable tip need to have the seal broken in side the tube newer guns have a piece on the side that swings out to beak the seal..
If you’ll watch in the video, I did that
Old tube get a refund
I’ve owned boats for 40 yrs. Always read the instructions.Poke a hole in the front of the tube ,like it says to.Take the leaky teak deck off before you’r balsa core rots(even more).just saying.good luck.
Yes, I not only poked a hole but also made it bigger, all IN the video. Seems like a lot of people weren’t really watching that part of the video for some reason. The problem was that it’s very thick and you need an electric caulk gun to do that job, or as an other said, soak it in hot water. The plan is to pull the deck, so I’m assuming you’ve just joined us here. Pulling the deck is a big job, and at the time of shooting this video, we’d just bought the boat and simply needed to get it home so we could do the work. We didnt want to quit our jobs to move across the state and do a refit there. It’s just easier to do that stuff with the boat home where we have the tools and time. Thanks for watching!
You have no idea what your doing 🤣@@TheSirensLog
Poke the membrain before you put the tip on the calk
Thank you Captain Obvious. lol 😂 Did that.
Did u poke end of caulk tube open ?
Yes. On camera. In the video.
Hints: 1) heat tube of sealant up in sun or with heat gun. 2) thin putty knife tapped into seating frame of shower floor, or thin knife to cut seal between floor and drain cover.
We tried to get the grate up with methods like that, but it didn’t work. It’s in there pretty good.
Hmm, would maybe heating the grate up draw some of the moisture out, or at least help loosen the paint in the framing while trying to work a box knife blade down in? @@TheSirensLog
Likely, that’s sorta been the plan. I’ve been letting it dry out a bit while we worked on other things and if I can’t get it up on the next round, I will probably try a hair dryer. I think I mentioned that in the video but I may have edited it out. Hal tells me I talk too long in the videos so I edit stuff out but then people always comment to tell me (not you, particularly, just in general) that I didn’t try this or that or I need to do this or I forgot this… and it’s always something I’ve literally discussed on camera but edited it out because I try to keep the videos under 30 minutes. lol We already can’t film everything! We’re working all day everyday and we e been here for two weeks and I have the next 3 or 4 episodes in editing already. That’s how much we are doing. lol But yea, I have a multitool that I will use a bit more aggressively if I need to. Just trying the gentle methods first.
Have you asked your selves what did I get myself into yet ? Ha ha. Well I know that you knew it was going to need work. So I am happy to see your positive attitudes here. You going to get it I know. Do you have board of boat projects yet?
As far as the teak wood, I used to work at a boat dealership and we used teak oil on new boats teak weekly. And then the boss would say never use paint on teak. It would cause it to rot. And it was better to leave it bare than paint it. And he said only use stain or varnish, so you removing this paint could be a really good thing. But that was him and I am not any expert on that so you probably know more than me.
I always hated working on toilets and black water drains and tanks. Good luck with the projects !
And I had move out of my house for week because I had a stopped (tree roots )up main line that had to be dug up under the house and replaced last month.
Oh I found a boat that is old, if next years raise was already here I think I take a close look at it, rather have a newer one but money is a big problem for me. It is a 1999/32ft for 52 grand Beneteau Ocenis 321 pics look good. But you know it may not be as good as what I think.
Oh your boss is 100% correct. You really shouldn’t paint teak, and if you do, it needs to be a specific paint. Once we slow down, I’d love to do a video on why you don’t paint teak and inform people of the reasons, and then maybe make a second video on the different product options you do have and how they work. It seems like a lot of new boat buyers just do whatever is convenient, without realizing they’re damaging the boat in doing so. Right now my bulkhead has basically been soaking up Blackwater and it can’t dry itself out because the paint is holding it in. Kinda gross!!!
Good luck with your boat search if you buy next year!! Prices are dropping.
@@TheSirensLog Oh thanks for the reply. Yeah it been many years ago I was told that.
And just thought about it when you showed yours has been done. Black water problems not good and kind of gross but I am sure you are going to handle that.
Hope your teak is not forever ruined. Years ago I had to cut out floor in my bath that was soaked with black water. When it dried. It still smelled bad. Thanks for the well wishes !
You guys rock,, down to earth friendly folks. Good luck ! I Can’t wait to her sailed !
*Bentley is adorable! It would nice if you could keep the cutie but do you think he could handle very hot & humid climates?*
He’s always lived in Florida so I guess so!
did you have a marine engineer inspect the boat and lift out on the dry to do so many hidden nasty,s under water money well spent , a boat definition of same "a long narrow hole in the water you pour $1000s into to keep it from filling up ""i use sika flex on decks works great n but need to tape edges and that deck does needs some work,multi tool with flat blade will do wonders to get that grate out
Yes we had a survey. As a yacht broker myself, I always recommend a survey.
For that grate, we tried some more obvious approaches first before taking it this far, of course none worked. If we can’t get it up after all this, we will use the multitool I purchased for the boat a few years back. I would just like to see how loose it is after removing the paint from it.
Can you say tarp?
Good luck, beautiful boat.
Most likely outboard carbuerator needs dis-assembly, rebuilt, change plug too, lower unit oil. If that fuel is not new, discard, clear fuel available at marina fuel dock --waterpump impeller replace too. STOP SMOKING over top of fuel tank and outboard. Basically this whole boat IS NOT READY TO LEAVE MARINA !!!-----Mikey
Did you shove a long nail into the nozzle? Or take the nozzle off and break the aluminum cover on the tube?
Literally in the video
Couldn't you have just used a utility razor blade to go around the edges of that grate instead of the paint stripper??
We'd already tried that when we got this far. IF we filmed everything, our videos would be hours long, we'd be here filming weeks longer, and we'd have weeks and weeks of videos. We could literally make a 2 hour video everyday to sum up what we do EACH day. Can't show it all, sorry!! hahaha
You have to buy the toxic paint remover the safe stuff doesn’t work that well, remember acetones, and other flammable fumes are heavier than air. Make sure your ventilating the boat well. Ok I will stop being a know it all
Thank you!! Yeah we are loaded up and ready for the head project. TotalBoat has us taken care of to strip with with the harsh stuff. I might have to wait until we get home with the boat though. Running out of time here at the dock. Showers on deck!
I took Tayana 37, completely a part to bare fiber glass , let me know if you have any questions
Thank you!! We appreciate that. What year was yours?
@@TheSirensLog 1980
@@markbuskens6070 Calm down, Mark. People do actually know things.
With that caulk, did you puncture the membrane inside the tube? There is a pin on the applicator for that.
She did. I think she showed it in the video. I actually got in trouble for checking when she asked for my help. LOL
Punctured that twice on camera, at 2:29 and then also commented on the metal pin after I noticed it, and also made mention that there was wet caulk at the end of the nozzle.
Sit unopened tubes of silicone in a bucket of hot water for 20/30 mins
Thanks, yeah I ended up getting an electric caulk gun. It’s not really silicone, it’s much thicker and heavier.
@TheSirensLog yer I've used stuff like it before called mastic sometimes needs a bit of heat. The new gun be better anyway
Love you ¿crocheted? bandana. You make it?
I didn't, actually! I found it pretty cheap and bought 3 of them, all a little different. Couldn't help myself. I love crochet anything. hahaha. However! I have been doing macrame for over 30 years and for some reason, still haven't really done any knitting or crocheting but I would really love to get into that. It's tough. I have too many hobbies and things I enjoy already! Gotta stop adding... hahahah
I am new to your channel and it’s awesome. However you know I’m a jokester. So, why did you guys buy a hot water heater! You don’t have to heat hot water. Isn’t it a water heater? Haha it’s a joke folks. I’ve always said that
lol 😂
You're Killing Me!1 The product is wrong. 3m 5200 comes in Black. This is not a quick and dirty project. It is a massive time consuming project.More Tarps!! Make sure that dinghy and engine operate properly--this is your tow-boat and pickup truck for the yacht-----Mikey
Sorry man, I’m not putting 5200 on my teak deck.
Need to order: 1 lb C4 will solve all your boat issues
I finally saw your toilet--that is the cheapest, lowest quality marine toilet made. The next one up in quality is the Raritan PH2--one of the Best hand pump toilets made. That old Jabsco is about $150, the Raritan PH2 with household size bowl(recommended) is $450, my last one purchased--expect 500-$600 now. Had a Tampax make it through once--do not try that one!!. Have had 10 years of living a board, 50 yrs of boats, many females on board--DO NOT be bashful about advising ladies to NOT discard female products in your toilet!!! Wastebasket in head is important!?------mikey
I have never put a tampon down ANY toilet and don’t plan to start on this one. lol. It’s Hal we actually need to be talking to. I’ve done all I can to convince him not to put toilet paper down it.
Hal has alot of patience, more than me. I can understand why they name boats woman names. They are pretty to look at but always have issues, you will never fix all the issues and it would probably be easier to just take all your money and throw it in the ocean...just sayin
I wouldn't call it patience as much as experience. New boats break. I've bought new boats where the pumps went out, running lights stopped working, and steering cable locked up. All in the first 6 months. Watch early videos on Sailing Zatara. They bought a brand new Beneteau and stuff started breaking on it immediately. A boat is just a floating short. Yes, boats are exactly like women. We still get married.
You’re not wrong. lol
I drive a Semi all over the country. It probably breaks more than a boat. I have actually been looking at sea kayaks. I used to have one many years ago. I know I'm not going to sail accross an ocean. It is good enough for me to just paddle around near shore. I have traveled around the country for 25 years. People are kinda the same wherever you go. The scenery is just nicer in some places. Hal seems like a good guy to go fishing with.
Hahaha totally! Ocean kayaks are fun. We just sold a bunch that Hal had been renting out. Still have a couple.