Mr Karotiko i guess if he doesn’t wobble, ice climbers can do real cool stuff, although win rate would be lower. If I get hand off’d and desync combo’d till death, I won’t even be mad. Doubt he can pull it off tho
When people discovered regular combo was Ultimate which grab mechanic has changed. Most of the people were just Wobbling (Melee) and Chain-Grabbing (Brawl).
@@monoko1234 a Big difference is the fact that most of the chaingrabs in Brawl required skill. They still we're boring to Watch, but at least wasn't free
That's not what he was saying. You only lose to luigi if you try and have fun in the match up, you either do that or play defensively, or in a boring way and win, but that's no fun. Like god damn are you guys stupid?
I didn't deny him saying that. Also that is exactly what he insinuated already when he said that. If the other playing is playing badly i.e. goofing around or trying to have fun they they'll lose to Luigi. Pretty sure everyone who read it understood that. chill, man
Nah, Falco is his worst MU by far. Or maybe Marth? Nononono It's gotta be Fox. Shiek REALLY does suck tho.... Oh and Puff is aids. Falcon meme's all over us, Peach and Samus camp us out.... Sooooo IC's and Pika aren't bad I guess?... Moral of the story, don't bitch about the Weege. He got it rough lmao
No one is saying he doesn't have it rough. He's just not fun to play against, he's slippery and floaty and has an rng side b. not to mention a panic nair so you gotta shorten combo strings. just becomes a spacing slap war.
K R Nah man, Iceys are the worst to play against at least to me. And guess what? It's just like you. It's an OPINION. But going about this objectively, who has better punishes and options, Fox or Luigi? Case closed.
Useless story time: Had something similar to this, but it was with Kirby. So after a whole night of throwing many friendlies with Kirby, I finally start actually playing the game (I didn't do any B-Throws and F-Throws or anything Kirbycide related). The person I go against is a Falco player. So I generally get the idea to get his ability. I walk up to him, take his ability near the edge of the stage, but he was mashing buttons so after he came out he FF'd to death. Ended the emulation and says, "You're an asshole." Why do people get mad over friendlies? If you really wanna play hard against someone, go on ranked. Lmao. It's there for a reason.
I have to say I love your videos. Seriously, every time I watch these it makes me want to go online instantly (in smash 4 anyway). It's like motivation, so that I don't end up like that one unfortunate player at the end.
+MaxSpeed I feel the same. After watching this, I booted up Dolphin to see if, even with my dead graphics card, I could still run Melee netplay. Sadly, it ran at 33%, so I guess I'll have to go your route and go back to playing Rosa in Smash 4 instead.
Amazing work man. I always share your videos with as much people as I can, because they are so well-made! Keep up these clips that basically sum up Melee.
ZeldaGamer08 Tbh I have met some people over the internet who somehow found a way to sound dumber then that and they're basically completely sober I guess.
I love how when Heew said he was taking it too far the other guy immediately said why did you think he was incorrect. Like cmon he was just saying calm down.
5 people are Verge. Heeeww, you should try something: Just record a shit ton of random Brawl Minus gameplay. You will get so much good footage. If you don't know, Brawl Minus is a Brawl mod (playable on Dolphin and Wii) that uses this philosophy: "If every character is broken, the game is still balanced." Dong bless ya Heeeww
When the smash bros designers made Luigi's side special they said "Mario has an amazing side special, so let's keep up the trend." "Better nerf greninja!" "What?" "Nothing."
I actually agree with the guy saying Stadium should be banned. I don't even play Melee seriously and it makes no sense to me whatsoever that that is a tournament-legal stage.
+drew13600 Probably because a stage shouldn't be tournament-legal if you can literally randomly glitch through the floor and automatically have no hope to get back on stage. Sorry if that puts a damper on your cute attempt at being a pretentious shitbird about this game for no reason.
+Eli M i mean same melee its self is a glitchy game so idk why you're complaing cuz stadium has been legal for so long that i doubt they'd take it out, plus im pretty sure thr keep it for the sake of more variety instead of playing on a flat stage or a stage with 3 platforms. And like the other guy said if you dont play melee competitively then why even complain about it? the stage its self is fun and i like it, yes the ceiling is low and the floor might kill you but its been like that forever
To be fair I'm a competitive player and I think that stadium should be banned. Fox shine infinites against the wall. Glitching through the floor. That one spot on the right side during transitions that you can't wave dash over and the shitty camera that doesn't let you see where you are on the left side when you are going for recovery. Fuck those things.
Eh. the Project M and Smash 4 places are fine. Brawl chat is, well.... Brawl. And l don't know about the Melee one because l can't get out of the mindset of "Why play Melee when there's Project M?". l played Melee once or twice, and l think did decently. They weren't shitty or anything, but l'm sure they could tell l was new to Melee.
He's alright, but he isn't the best. Don't expect to win any majors with him tho. But what do I know? I just saw one of the best Little Mac almost get JV3'd by Mew2King
He's alright, but he isn't the best. Don't expect to win any majors with him tho. But what do I know? I just saw one of the best Little Mac almost get JV3'd by Mew2King
"Luigi only wins if the player going against him is bad"
He just burnt himself
Shots were misfired.
VERGE SAID LUIGI WAS WACK
I MISSED A FRAME PLS DONT KILL HIM HES JUST A BOY
It was on twitter anyway sooo
+Heeeww I'll whack you boy
+Giantfirering Cole He killed a VERGE in.
+ProtoCake im not the only one that try to see things like that :D
+Heeeww Verge means penis in french heh
"Luigi only beats you if you play bad" -- Irony-man, 2016.
Lunar Dusk
"Irony man" earned my upvote
Lunar Dusk FeelsBadMan
"Luigi isn't fun to fight"....Yeah...said the Ice Climbers player
Mr Karotiko i guess if he doesn’t wobble, ice climbers can do real cool stuff, although win rate would be lower. If I get hand off’d and desync combo’d till death, I won’t even be mad. Doubt he can pull it off tho
When people discovered regular combo was Ultimate which grab mechanic has changed. Most of the people were just Wobbling (Melee) and Chain-Grabbing (Brawl).
@@monoko1234 a Big difference is the fact that most of the chaingrabs in Brawl required skill. They still we're boring to Watch, but at least wasn't free
@@TDG386 handoffs in brawl were so EASY and free in brawl, literally got it first try. Ultimate is a whole ‘nother story though fr.
@@ImCookieSparx i should have put "they requiere skill in comparison to melee"
"Luigi only wins if the other player is playing bad"
There you go
then he realizes he called himself trash and then adds "or playing aggressive"
You know, kind of like every other match in the game. You'll usually lose if you're playing badly.
"Luigi's so lame, he only wins if the player using him has a higher level of skill and consistency than the other"
That's not what he was saying. You only lose to luigi if you try and have fun in the match up, you either do that or play defensively, or in a boring way and win, but that's no fun.
Like god damn are you guys stupid?
I didn't deny him saying that.
Also that is exactly what he insinuated already when he said that. If the other playing is playing badly i.e. goofing around or trying to have fun they they'll lose to Luigi.
Pretty sure everyone who read it understood that.
chill, man
He played FOX and SHEIK and he's complaining about Luigi?
Does he realize how hard you have to work as Luigi to beat those two?
My thoughts exactly lol
Sheik is arguably Luigi's worst MU
Nah, Falco is his worst MU by far. Or maybe Marth? Nononono It's gotta be Fox. Shiek REALLY does suck tho.... Oh and Puff is aids. Falcon meme's all over us, Peach and Samus camp us out....
Sooooo IC's and Pika aren't bad I guess?...
Moral of the story, don't bitch about the Weege. He got it rough lmao
While we do seem to disagree with which ones are the ABSOLUTE worst we can easily agree on that final note you gave lmao
No one is saying he doesn't have it rough. He's just not fun to play against, he's slippery and floaty and has an rng side b. not to mention a panic nair so you gotta shorten combo strings. just becomes a spacing slap war.
K R Nah man, Iceys are the worst to play against at least to me.
And guess what? It's just like you. It's an OPINION.
But going about this objectively, who has better punishes and options, Fox or Luigi?
Case closed.
'doesn't sound like a gg'
'its not'
well at least thats clarified
when you let luigi get you that salty
you have lost on more layers than one
carroway amen
>luigi is not fun
this is probably a guy who thinks falcon is un-hype
+theqman24
Falcon isn't hype.
Said noone ever.
+theqman24 He isnt. But Luigi is so much fun.
I don't think Falcon is hype, but Luigi is still fun as fuck to play and watch.
+theqman24 Falcon is the lord of hype.
+Wanka He's pretty overrated IMO. I can only stand "OMG KNEE DISRECPECT!!!! THAT FALCON PUNCH!!!!!!!!!!!!" for so long.
EVERY YEAR IS THE YEAR OF LUIGI
(3:05) "At least Samus out plays his opponent...", His? HIS?!
GET THE TORCHES AND PITCHFORKS!
what's funny people though Samus was a male.
@SonoftheSun
yes funny much indeed so
+SonoftheSun Becuase it's funny to misgender transgender people, amirite?
Amie Mallich Wut?
What's a man to a king?
What's a king to a god?
What's a god to a Luigi?
The answer is simple: an ant.
What’s a Luigi to a Luigi
Dam that deep
Useless story time:
Had something similar to this, but it was with Kirby. So after a whole night of throwing many friendlies with Kirby, I finally start actually playing the game (I didn't do any B-Throws and F-Throws or anything Kirbycide related).
The person I go against is a Falco player. So I generally get the idea to get his ability. I walk up to him, take his ability near the edge of the stage, but he was mashing buttons so after he came out he FF'd to death. Ended the emulation and says, "You're an asshole."
Why do people get mad over friendlies? If you really wanna play hard against someone, go on ranked. Lmao. It's there for a reason.
Kirbycide is the best made up word I have ever heard. It is also very true to his fthrows and bthrows.
"How"
"What did I say that was wrong"
*Well for one, Samus is a girl*
LMAO
Next you're going to tell me im not playing as zelda!
Yeah, people keep telling me that my smash 64 main is actually named lel or lunk or something like that. Stupid 7 year olds.
Abate simulator: 2015
Also Luigi mains can misfire on command, confirmed.
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
how?
Andrew Lopez Oh no. You're not taking it seriously, right?
In Project M tho @_@
No no, that's a common misconception of the masses.
Luigi mains can't misfire on command.
Luigi himself KNOWS when to misfire.
Poor boy's salt level reached critical mass.
"Luigi only wins if the other player is playing bad"
top notch
Fucking played himself
Here is what I got from that person:
If you play as Luigi and don't try, you lose.
If you play as Luigi and try, you win.
eeesh my IQ was dropping reading that scrubs Johns
I didn't know the Dead Sea was on netplay.
I have to say I love your videos. Seriously, every time I watch these it makes me want to go online instantly (in smash 4 anyway). It's like motivation, so that I don't end up like that one unfortunate player at the end.
+MaxSpeed I feel the same. After watching this, I booted up Dolphin to see if, even with my dead graphics card, I could still run Melee netplay.
Sadly, it ran at 33%, so I guess I'll have to go your route and go back to playing Rosa in Smash 4 instead.
+OnlyFriendlyGuy Mine finished downloading....but was missing some files ;-;
+Edwin Gaxiola Is it related to the Visual C++ Redistributable? If so, be sure to install any OS updates. Fixed the problem for me on my PC.
"Luigi only wins if the other player is bad"
.....So you're bad sir?
Amazing work man. I always share your videos with as much people as I can, because they are so well-made! Keep up these clips that basically sum up Melee.
he...
goooooot duuuuuunked on
+Hawelo92 I'm not sorry.
Same lmao
Sans? Did you sense your theme "sans." play?
+Flowey The Flower Please don't bring that stuff into these kinds of videos.
Tuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuubs Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaas spoken
"Luigi is like Puff, he only wins if the other player is playing bad or overly aggressive."
Hungrybox would like to have a word with you.
* And I thought For Glory was bad.
It is
for glory is far worse than this
If it had a chat it would be far worse.
But since it doesn't he has a point XD
But this has a chat
It's worse
He's a pretty wacky character tho
In an amusing, cool way.
WHO SAID HE'S WACK
1:21
*OH DEAR GOD, YOU SMACKED NANA OUT OF EXISTENCE.*
Every misfire and shoryuken is hype.
"Atleast Samus actually plays out HIS opponents"
*sigh*
All I can do is sigh XD
Guys, Guys, this guy IS smoking crack. He called Samus a boy. 3:05
Finally someone else noticed that Verge made the mistake of calling Samus a boy...
He actually was sort of because he was drunk lol
ZeldaGamer08 Well. That explains a lot.
Poke Miner Yep it does. And also why he said really stupid this in general
ZeldaGamer08 Tbh I have met some people over the internet who somehow found a way to sound dumber then that and they're basically completely sober I guess.
I love how when Heew said he was taking it too far the other guy immediately said why did you think he was incorrect. Like cmon he was just saying calm down.
5 people are Verge.
Heeeww, you should try something: Just record a shit ton of random Brawl Minus gameplay. You will get so much good footage.
If you don't know, Brawl Minus is a Brawl mod (playable on Dolphin and Wii) that uses this philosophy:
"If every character is broken, the game is still balanced."
Dong bless ya Heeeww
*plays as top tier characters that are in the S tier*
*loses against Luigi*
another reason why Melee's broken.
Wouldn't that make the game balanced? If a low tier can beat a high tier?
luigi is mid tier.
leon the badass No
Luigi is SS tier
@@theobserver4214 What do you mean, that's literally how a balanced game works
Heeew and Abate are the reasons why I unironically main Luigi. This video was the catalyst.
Oh anthers. They invented salt.
how can people hate in this wonderful game : (
It's wack.
+Logan Bird nice memeing pal
It's wonderful... But it's _very far_ from perfect.
+DatGameh Go spread your evil somewhere else. We don't like YOUR kid around here lol.
+Victor Martinez tbh the mechanics are perfect for competitive play.
But the character balance is poop. lol
"Luigi only wins if the other player is fucking bad"
- Guy who got beat by luigi like 100 times in a row.
"Luigi only wins if the player fighting him is bad"
Well by that logic, he just called himself bad. GG
The Undertale music fit the moments perfectly. Love it!
Luigi has always been my one of my favorite characters
The salt is real with that guy
When the smash bros designers made Luigi's side special they said
"Mario has an amazing side special, so let's keep up the trend."
"Better nerf greninja!"
"What?"
"Nothing."
Playing against Luigi is like playing against Captain Falcon. If you lose against one, odds are, you'll lose against the other.
3:05 "But at least Samus actually out plays his opponent" "his opponent" "HIS opponent"
" *HIS* opponent"
i cri
MAJOR LEAGUE TRIGGERED.
I'm assuming they meant the player, not Samus herself.
0:48 was the least sensical thing I have seen all week.
I actually agree with the guy saying Stadium should be banned. I don't even play Melee seriously and it makes no sense to me whatsoever that that is a tournament-legal stage.
+drew13600 Probably because a stage shouldn't be tournament-legal if you can literally randomly glitch through the floor and automatically have no hope to get back on stage. Sorry if that puts a damper on your cute attempt at being a pretentious shitbird about this game for no reason.
drew13600 Lol ok.
drew13600 Just another thing that makes Melee a Perfect Game amirite?
+Eli M i mean same melee its self is a glitchy game so idk why you're complaing cuz stadium has been legal for so long that i doubt they'd take it out, plus im pretty sure thr keep it for the sake of more variety instead of playing on a flat stage or a stage with 3 platforms. And like the other guy said if you dont play melee competitively then why even complain about it? the stage its self is fun and i like it, yes the ceiling is low and the floor might kill you but its been like that forever
To be fair I'm a competitive player and I think that stadium should be banned. Fox shine infinites against the wall. Glitching through the floor. That one spot on the right side during transitions that you can't wave dash over and the shitty camera that doesn't let you see where you are on the left side when you are going for recovery. Fuck those things.
I've never played on smash ladder and after watching a few of your videos I feel better because of it.
Eh. the Project M and Smash 4 places are fine. Brawl chat is, well.... Brawl. And l don't know about the Melee one because l can't get out of the mindset of "Why play Melee when there's Project M?". l played Melee once or twice, and l think did decently. They weren't shitty or anything, but l'm sure they could tell l was new to Melee.
Wow, a video showcasing Luigi without the "Luigi's Mansion" theme playing? Pretty sure that's against Nintendo's rules, Heeew...
I have but one thing to say to the guy who said Luigi's wack, and then started talking more trash when losing.
"JOHNS!"
"I got my feelings hurt and remembered that muh bodies hitting the floor doesn't make up for the fact he struck a nerve"
"It's a formality I will love of up to" IM DYING
Somebody find this guy and make sure he gets a ton of requests from masked luigis
That song made me question many things. including whether or not I actually know what wack means...
Wait you're a luigi main?
Finally, I'm a luigi main myself, haven't been able to find a youtuber who is a luigi main, subbed :)
My all time favorite vid
W H O S A I D L U I G I I S W A C K
checking in all these years later to see if luigi is still wack
The one or two frames at 1:15 where you can see 'Verge' isn't blacked out
Not gonna lie, I was half expecting a Megalovania to burst out of nowhere.
That guy is gonna have a heart attack with the salt overdose.
There are enough Johns in this video to run a country.
I love the characters that this guy is throwing out
fucking young-link man, what even
You either play to win or you play to have fun; there's no in between
This is probably the best smash video ever made tbh...
For half a second I thought this was Eminem
How tf can an ICs player get mad at a Luigi? Luigi is waaay cooler.
Still a masterpiece
Oh hey old me what're you up to
@@Shadrakeouch, you got ignored by your old self 😔
@@Johnny300- LOL
thanks for replying to this that was great XD
Yay! Another video! Again great job Heww! :D
Good old anthers ladder
A FELLOW BUSH BOY! wait... THE LEADER OF THE BUSH BOYS!!! :o
+BushBoyFalcon It can be like the worst of For Glory, but with chat
Heeew Luigi is wack is like saying
Fox can't talk. Because what did the
Fox say ? He said Luigi is number one !
Can we talk about how covering misfire is super easy and if you get hit by it you deserve it 100% of the time
the song is exactly how i feel who shit talks about my smash 4 main, little mac.
He's alright, but he isn't the best.
Don't expect to win any majors with him tho.
But what do I know?
I just saw one of the best Little Mac almost get JV3'd by Mew2King
He's alright, but he isn't the best.
Don't expect to win any majors with him tho.
But what do I know?
I just saw one of the best Little Mac almost get JV3'd by Mew2King
you'd probably die if you ate all the salt he made
Left some frames in showing the wack caller's name in. Other than that, MAGESTIC.
" it's more like a boring samus but atleast samus actually out plays his opponent "
I love salt
0:51 you know the rules and so do I
"but atleast samus out plays his opponent"
3:05 dis boi thinks that Samus is a boy.
Inhales*........BOI!!!!!!
Geeeeeeeeeeet dunked on
At least I can say right now that I was here since 15,000, quick before luigi kills me.
I looked at that guy's profile and this series of friendlies was the second to last game he played.
I love your vids so much I would donate to your patreon if it existed.
Thanks dude that means a lot, but I don't post often and a Patreon would make me feel like I'm cheating my fans. You guys don't deserve that.
+Heeeww yeah totally. It was just the highest praise I could think of to communicate my opinion of your stuff.
tfw heeeww uploads a new video and you scream in joy
3:06 Verge thinks that samus is a male. *sigh* people...
You = best Smash channel on TH-cam
"But it's a formality that I will upheel" uh, uphold? loooool
cant believe luigi mario is actually sans undertale im crying and shaking rn
1:14 if you pause at the right time you will see that the other guy's name is Verge
Looks like we got ourselves a Salty Susan
I didn't know Marth runs a Space Fair! Why does no one tell me these things? I would play at the space fair all day long with marth
Please do more! I love your content.
“Idc about winning” I JUST WANT TO COMPLAIN!
If any of ya did not know the music at beginning, it’s “Who said we’re wack?”
This is why, you never talk smack about anyone before a match.
Oh my God that guy at the end 😂 dude you want some fries to go with all that SALT?
I hear that Undertale song at 1:17.
You like Sans, don't you Squidward?
Falco -> Icies -> YLink -> Sheik -> Fox
HURR WHY CAN'T I WIN IT'S ALMOST LIKE I'M AIMLESSLY HOPPING BETWEEN CHARACTERS INSTEAD OF TRYING TO ADAPT
That chat log: saltier than Don Juan Pond.
Shoutouts to the undertale music tho