Imagine any other profession, where you in contact with people and can help or harm them in a serious way. And then then "professional" is just winging what he does: - A surgeon guessing which tool is the right one to cut into your brain - A fireman reading the manual how to attach the hose while a building is on fire - A soldier trying to remeber, if the safety distance of his handgrenade was 50 or 150m to allied individuals - A electrician changing a fuse, hoping it will the the 6A and not the 10A one In any other field of work, we wouldn't accept someone with such responsibility and power, acting upon guesswork. And yet here we see thousands upon thousands of videos of UK and US policemen, learning on the job while giving people orders and a hard time. For fucks sake, raise your standards and education, its fucking nessessary.
It's a disgrace that they don't know the law, yet come up and bark in front of people expecting them to believe what you say is gospel Distracting you from your work is a problem you and your goons have. It's called attention deficit disorder. ADH. Yet this fool has No excuse team. And he was the biggest fool who had nothing but excuses. Unreal how they can wing it every day. I hope if i am up in court, that my barrister is not winging it like this cop.
What an embarrassment to the seniors at the piggery. If they see this, he's fired. A complete & utter nob. He had no clue what he was doing, but it didn't stop him pushing his luck nor pushing his cluelessly incorrect guesswork that he hoped you'd accept as authority. I can imagine his words as he left the other piggies: "2 ticks lads. I'll just go sort this basturd with the Jumbo Jet out. I'll make up some stupid laws & let him think I'mm doing him a favour by only giving him a warning". Wouldn't surprise me.
You were clearly guilty of distracting a police officer going about his normal duties of fabricating laws and procedures that don't exist. What a damaged and fragile ego he has.
@Martin Sanders He had no alternative. I'd like to think if it was me I'd have told him to p1ss off and go find out instead of trying to assert his non existent authority. We put up with so much crap from these people.
A buzzing distracts them while they also claim good salaries for working on motorways. Sounds like these cops aren't suitable for police work with that terrible attention span
@Martin Sanders They are like Marmite then. Just because some cops behave worse than him it doesn't make him good, in my judgement it would just make him less bad. We have so precious few freedoms and every interaction like this is an attempt to erode or remove a freedom . If the officer didn't know this subject there is no excuse for taking this man's time up by blagging away as if he did. All too often we cave in just for an easy life. I appreciate your reply and point of view. Hope you continue to hang on to the right to have the latter.
You just about managed to 'lion tame' that officers savage ego there, as he floundered and babbled his way back from suspecting you of a crime and wanting to arrest you, as soon as you presented him with facts and actual drone law he was lost, making us almost feel sorry for his crippling ignorance as we eventually discover that he is " just a traffic cop" with an unfortunate urge to arrest folk.
He is being deprived of his freedom of movement in the fact that they do NOT have any reasonable suspicion of a crime being committed. They MAY have thought so at the beginning but after reading the legislation and seeing the weight of his drone then they should let him go. Definite grounds for taking this to court.
We went from "you've commited an offence" to "I suspect you've commited an offence" to "I'm a traffic officer, I'll go get another officer, who fly drones to se if you have commited an offence" - these guys are a joke.
Imagine calling a cop for help and this guy turns up. He would ask the criminal for the law he has broken beecause he is traffic and knows nothing about rapr, burglary etc!
But you missed the best bit, where he went from "I'll go get another officer who fly drones to see if you have committed an offence" to DOH, you haven't committed an offence and I have just made a complete plonker of myself for all the internet to see.
From a long time drone operator I must say you handled that very well indeed, it's a pity that all police aren't aware of the regs and would save a lot of time if they were trained, I do like how he didn't like being asked questions but was more than willing to ask you questions, well done for keeping calm and to the point
Exactly right it's not what you think or guess it's just does it contravene a law. See my remarks that explain this I have seen lots of Videos like this it makes me weep It's easy read the law learn it apply it.
A cop in america would’ve just pepper sprayed him as soon as he didn’t comply, I wish American cops were atleast like this man and could admit to his fault after being proven wrong, instead of refusing to except it and not getting in trouble for when THEY break the law
Suspicion of walking on the cracks in the pavement, urinating in a public convenience, possession of an offensive wife and wearing a loud shirt in a built up area... guilty as charged.
I know he would terrorise a child with his look, demenour and behaviour. And we are paying for him to know nothing! If he is just traffic he should stop at a red light and stay there!
Why did he need 2 of his buddies with him just to have 'a chat'? P.S. The only Criminal Offence was the cop interrupting the operator of an airborne device !
Needs jail time, they all do. The appropriate Authorities are working on putting these folks where they belong, be it body bag, the ground or behind bars. They're not safe to walk the streets with the rest of humanity.
Desperate. He continues to tell you that you can't do it because he's concerned about health and safety. My gf is a health and safety professional. He's supposed to be a cop. I don't think he was reasonable at any point tbh. He was arrogantly ignorant throughout. They should be able to do the job they're being trained on without getting distracted. I worked in construction for decades and I don't recall asking people to be quiet so I could concentrate. All part of the learning process. 😂
"I don't want to look like a wolly or something on youtube" lol! Typical constable who is clueless on the law regarding drones and caught himself out... he backtracked quickly when he realised he was talking to someone who wasn't just going to bend over for him and knew the law and their rights. You dealt with this well Julian as you always do.
The officer was perfectly correct, and in accordance with CAA guidance wanted to establish the legality of the flight. Had the frauditor identified the drone as sub-250g then that would have been the end. However the frauditor needed a conflict for his sad video, so escalated by refusing to answer a polite simple and appropriate question
@@dansroadtripz1195 Yawn, you really are one very limited little man. Only little girls use the term "Frauditor". Since when are people obliged to answer questions if they aren't breaking the law.
I’m a Traffic Officer who doesn’t know much about traffic either. You could smell the smoke coming off his back pedalling, his bullshit flap valve was wide open !! Read the CAA rules and still didn’t understand why he was talking bollox. Well done for educating at least three of the ‘force’ !
He was happy to say he thought you were committing a crime and you were to hand over your personal details when he was reading from the CAA website, as soon as you prove you are lawfully allowed to do what you were doing, they suddenly decided the CAA website isn't good enough and need advice from a drone copper😂😂😂
Gosh the back peddling from that traffic cop was embarrassing. He was trying to throw his weight around and it backfired badly, well done for holding your ground.
Apparently the officer wants you and your drone to refrain from coming within sight of any Attention Deficit Officers (from here on known as ADOs) to decrease chances of the public knowing they are lacking basic knowledge in the job they are there to perform.
A thought he did fairly well No cuffs, no search, no detainment, no ID, he only said he wouldn't be arresting Julian, and most of all never mentioned the terrorist act What more do you want At least he's honest as there all clueless of the law most of the time
@@otlseal9159 You're ignoring the bit where he made up laws that don't exist and used them to demand details. His demeanour was aggressive until he realised he'd made at fool of himself, at which point he started acting all nice and humble to try to save face. Had he been confronting somebody more timid or less knowledgeable, they would have most likely complied with his unlawful demands.
@@DystopianUtopia I couldn’t agree with you more, and quite clearly @otlseal9159 either didn’t watch the video or is one of the cop’s mates (or in his police gang) to suggest the cop did nothing wrong.
Pathetic back pedalling on that officers behalf. He was hoping JC didn't have a handle on the law so he could beat him down. He's obviously gotten away with it for a while now. Good video.
4:50 this was precisely the moment this officer had a ‘sliding doors’ moment. He could have either swallowed his ego, admitted the error, and said ‘thank you sir, goodbye’… OR… pathetically attempt to justify himself and re-apportion the blame away from himself. Fragile ego, and low emotional control. Officers everywhere: The only way to earn respect is to behave with integrity at all times (especially when you’re wrong!) 👍
@@Polecat54941 Yes it's very scary to know these cats are roaming free ready to pounce....and they have all the permissions of the Gov to kidnap, assault and even murder if they so much as get a bee under their bonnet
The copper was a reasonable guy, I'm pleased you started to mellow towards him (although you are right that we shouldn't be prevented or to have to justify what we are doing lawfully). Allowing him to make a call for advice on a sub 250 would have perhaps helped him. Wow, he was a bit dubious but did give you a bit of a show & tell of what they were doing, although got a bit edgy. Funny, whilst chatting with you, his partner made the call and got the advice on the sub 250 🤨
No comment on that officer, but remember the covid days? There were many elements of the police who were enforcing non-existent laws and guidances that were not laws (and went much further than the law itself). They flew drones to shame people walking, which wasn't illegal. Police have to control their tendency to see bad in everyone with the evidence in front of them on any given occasion - and that often means no bad or wrong at all.
unkempt, hands in pockets.. what happened to the neat haircuts and proper uniforms. Its not the first video i've seen with scruffy officersm and thats before we start on their actual knowledge of the law!
"I Don't want to look a wally on TH-cam". A bit too late for that officer. He eventually knew he'd screwed up and tried to explain his way out of an embarrassing situation, only to step deeper and deeper into the cow-shit he'd already trodden.
Great audit! 👏👏👏What an ignorant cop! First talking to you while you’re flying the drone.. then dishing out a lot of stuff not relevant.. for then realising he is being filmed, so a quick change in attitude! ‘I don’t know everything etc’ well find out before interacting! 😂 You were really more polite towards him than he deserved!
have t oaagree he could stand outside sainsbury's witha empty cup and earn a few quid.... infact beggers near me look much better than him and never see any scuffy ones like that any more. he is one of those you could take to saville row spend a fortune and he still looks like compo
"I don't want to look a Wally on TH-cam".......FAIL! If he does not know the law he should check first then come over if necessary - not just blag his way and hope he can intimidate you!
Not a bad bit of standing up for yourself and others but did you actually get the coppers details I.e. his name, rank , shoulder number and what location he works out of. If you did then I’m sorry but I didn’t hear you ask him for them and I didn’t hear his reply. You can also ask him to verify his details by showing you for the camera, his warrant card with his photograph on it (and check that it is in date). I know that it’s a fair bit to remember when you are in a stressful situation but if you don’t he can start telling you lie’s about what you can and can’t do, or even attempt to detain you. I bet that he still feels that he has the power to do the same actions to anyone else that he comes across who isn’t as sure of themselves as you obviously are. Well done for keeping your stance and not being mouthy with him, more people who own or fly drones should follow you’re example.
Constable Knobhead should have checked his facts first or, like he mentioned 20x, call the drone team before contacting you. I still find it disgusting that in the eyes of coppers you are always guilty until proven innocent. There should be a law that citizens could claim 10 GBP/Euro/Dollar for each minute a copper "detains" you while not breaking any laws.
Am sure that copper is the Queens hand and wizard in the Series The Witcher that's maybe why he Don't know The laws of the land ?? keep up the Great work m8
"you've taken up quite a bit of my time" 😂 Who approached who, and held a member of the public there, all the time his colleagues checked there was actually no offence committed, and no reason therefore to hold a member of the public there in the first place. Could he dig a bigger hole for himself?
Interesting. A cop, who deals mainly with traffic, doesn't know very much about what happens with traffic. Sensors, how trucks are picked out for inspection, etc. Yeah, wouldn't trust this one further than I could toss a jukebox regardless of how quickly he can change his tune - which he did several times. 🤦♀😜
Even if you were the senior no all about laws at the police training college, and you quoted the actual laws, they would still say they know more about it than you do. For some reason they actually believe that no one but no one knows the laws more than they do. people are getting more educated on the laws and they will not accept that is happening.
I mean he was humble once exposed, but the fact he needed exposing and approached in the way he did.... The issue here is the same issue with all these situations - it's police officers giving orders without already knowing the law, because they assume the public will take their word for it. It's such a dangerous mentality on both sides.
If flying a drone over their heads is a "safety issue" for his colleagues they need to update their H&S risk assessment. Ironic he has NO EXCUSE TEAM emblazoned across his chest.
He suspected you of 'flying a drone in a public place!' 😳😲😁 Whatever next will he consider a crime? - Walking your dog in a public park! Driving your car on a public road. Cycling past a public residence. Walking along a public footpath. Kicking a football in a park. Flying a kite in a field on a windy day! Going shopping in a public place?? I could go on and on but I think I made my point already.😁👍 You've actually given him a very useful practicle, public service training exercise and clearly he failed miserably!
@@MrKevC It feels like just existing is sailing close to the wind of being on the wrong side of the law? I mean not so long ago we weren't allowed out of our homes, or to get married or have a funeral for a loved one or visit an elderly family member in care etc. I fly my drone out in the middle of nowhere, bothering nobody, minding my own business but after watching videos like this it makes me feel like I'm still doing 'something wrong'.⚠️😲😳 When a none drone flying member of the public watches a video like this and they see me flying one, they instantly think I'm acting nefariously!
@@pdtech4524 As a Drone operator myself even though it is only small time hobby for me I totally agree with you. Anything nowadays that you get a bit of fun and enjoyment out of they want to screw you over its all about making money and F--k the everyday man. Freedom of speech is being eroded faster than a salt mountain at sea. Do your thing and don't worry about all the other clowns is my advise 👍
Since when were bobble hats 'Standard Issue' for the swine, and since when was flying a drone in public a criminal offence(?) The answer to both these questions is NEVER. Keep flying high Julian 🙂
The badge which states No Excuse Team is is extremely relevant to this encounter. First I wasn't aware that this force are employing tramps, and his ignorance really is what it applies too: No Excuse for gross ignorance. Says it all. Great job, keep up the good work.
IMPORTANT NEWS… The last time police officer acted like this with me I took a look at his eyes and said right.. stop right there do not move sit if you can and called 999 told them I have an officer maybe drink or high on something giving me a hard time doesn’t know what his talking about slurring mumbling plz help his showing his power while working for me the public
The cop based his concern on a simple safety issue, I call his concern based on ignorance. You're a very patient man Julian, I found him to be rather unpleasant.
The cheek of him " i think iv given you enough of my time " 🤣🤣 how backwards can they get ... excuse me you come and interupted the drone pilot hes giving you his bloody time ..... imagine his poor kids when he thinks they may of done something wrong 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
"It would be unlawful for me to start trying to enforce things which don't exist". Exactly. I think he could be forgiven for not knowing all the rules around drones. What is not forgivable is attempting to blag it, claiming that there is a law being broken, and expecting that if he says it, and demands your information, with enough authority, you will believe it and comply. He should have accepted the fact that he doesn't know for sure, before saying a word to you, and he should have sought advice before trying to impose on you. It's also disappointing that his own failure to comply with body worn video and uniform policy is apparently something to be casually dismissed as irrelevant. Funny how he is very concerned with your compliance with the law and regulations, but his own, actual, breaches don't matter. He doesn't seem like a terrible bloke but so much of this still reflects what is wrong with modern policing in this country.
came ouit all billy big balls, got quickly taken down and realised he was out of his depth and then tried backtracking when his "policey man jacket" didn't intimidate you into compliance. nice one.
@@thetruth9210 That's section 10. However, in this case they would quite be within their rights to report him at a later date. But not reporting him, that's section 10
@@thetruth9210 There was one where the auditor was "flying" a drone with an xbox controller, looking up in the sky. There was no drone. Reminds me of the end of year school prank. 2 sheep were let loose. But before that one had a number 2 spray painted on the side, the second a number 5. Took them a long time hunting for the 3 mythical sheep.
He changed he's tune when you told him the laws yet again a clueless police officer who tryed to bully you into giving your details and we have police like him in the force.
the simple fact is they hate being filmed and held to account. they absolutely hate it. now that everyone has a camera phone, hand held camera or drone they can be filmed. big brother is now watching them. how the tables have turned. also people are now more savvy knowing their rights and laws, the police havnt a clue so make it up as they go along and just dig a hole for their egos and feelings.
I wonder have many times this cop has used the line IGNORANCE OF THE LAW IS NO EXCUSE. And in the end he still made himself look like a complete idiot.
This is not intended to be rude but that officer has similar facial expressions as you. Not a bad thing, but similar. He soon came down a peg or two when he realised that you knew the drone laws and he didn't.
Just stumbled across your channel. Got a sub from me. Some great stuff. Not always about giving them a hard time but also about education for the ones that are clueless. Keep up the good work. 👍🏻
Very interesting interaction. Police accuse you of being in the wrong despite them not knowing the legislation. They then change their tune initially once they realise they’re being recorded and furthermore when they realise their ‘knowledge’ may be lacking somewhat. Good job by the auditor. Nice calm conversation. Remember , legislation states that it’s up to the Police (state) to PROVE that the accused has done something illegal. That’s important to remember whenever a police officer asks you to ‘Explain your understanding of the guidance’ etc. (You’re not legally obliged to explain your ‘understanding’). Remember the all important phrase of a police caution …. “You are not obliged to say anything…”. Firstly correct their wording by stating it’s not ‘Guidance’ but ‘law’, and then turn the question back on them and rather than give your ‘understanding’, ask them to state exactly what legislation applies. What offence have you been suspected of committing etc. Police are tasked with enforcing laws, not feelings etc. Also, Police rarely want to ‘just have a chat’. They’re trying to gather evidence, construct a case AGAINST you. There are no ‘chats’.
"NO EXCUSE TEAM", can I presume Police can now adorn their uniform with any badges that they wish? I hope the senior management can have this addressed, not a good message to the public to whom they serve, is it?
Why don't they understand the difference between; 1. 'suspect you of an offence (don't know what)' and 2. 'suspect you of an offence (insert statue here)'?
Imagine any other profession, where you in contact with people and can help or harm them in a serious way. And then then "professional" is just winging what he does:
- A surgeon guessing which tool is the right one to cut into your brain
- A fireman reading the manual how to attach the hose while a building is on fire
- A soldier trying to remeber, if the safety distance of his handgrenade was 50 or 150m to allied individuals
- A electrician changing a fuse, hoping it will the the 6A and not the 10A one
In any other field of work, we wouldn't accept someone with such responsibility and power, acting upon guesswork. And yet here we see thousands upon thousands of videos of UK and US policemen, learning on the job while giving people orders and a hard time. For fucks sake, raise your standards and education, its fucking nessessary.
Great comment
It's a disgrace that they don't know the law, yet come up and bark in front of people expecting them to believe what you say is gospel
Distracting you from your work is a problem you and your goons have. It's called attention deficit disorder. ADH. Yet this fool has No excuse team. And he was the biggest fool who had nothing but excuses. Unreal how they can wing it every day. I hope if i am up in court, that my barrister is not winging it like this cop.
Copper knew after 7 minutes he was in the wrong, but his way to big ego forbade him to walk away. So he kept digging deeper the hole he was in.
Did you notice his badge "NO EXCUSE TEAM" What the hell does that mean HE GIVES NO EXCUSES .
That's the problem with being arrogant.
Digging the hole with his little gnome spade.
I disagree I think he was fair, actually tried to do what he thought was right on this occasion, not rude just not as informed as he could have been.
@@stevegrew6758 What he thought was right? He didn't think anything.
I suspect you of breaking the law.
What law?
I don't know.
What an embarrassment to the seniors at the piggery. If they see this, he's fired. A complete & utter nob. He had no clue what he was doing, but it didn't stop him pushing his luck nor pushing his cluelessly incorrect guesswork that he hoped you'd accept as authority. I can imagine his words as he left the other piggies: "2 ticks lads. I'll just go sort this basturd with the Jumbo Jet out. I'll make up some stupid laws & let him think I'mm doing him a favour by only giving him a warning". Wouldn't surprise me.
You were clearly guilty of distracting a police officer going about his normal duties of fabricating laws and procedures that don't exist. What a damaged and fragile ego he has.
Just to get money off the plebs😢😢😢😢
He didn't get to the bottom of why he did not inform that he was videoing.
@Martin Sanders He had no alternative. I'd like to think if it was me I'd have told him to p1ss off and go find out instead of trying to assert his non existent authority. We put up with so much crap from these people.
A buzzing distracts them while they also claim good salaries for working on motorways.
Sounds like these cops aren't suitable for police work with that terrible attention span
@Martin Sanders They are like Marmite then. Just because some cops behave worse than him it doesn't make him good, in my judgement it would just make him less bad. We have so precious few freedoms and every interaction like this is an attempt to erode or remove a freedom . If the officer didn't know this subject there is no excuse for taking this man's time up by blagging away as if he did. All too often we cave in just for an easy life. I appreciate your reply and point of view. Hope you continue to hang on to the right to have the latter.
Cop "I suspect you of committing an offence even though I don't have a clue what I am talking about"
You just about managed to 'lion tame' that officers savage ego there, as he floundered and babbled his way back from suspecting you of a crime and wanting to arrest you, as soon as you presented him with facts and actual drone law he was lost, making us almost feel sorry for his crippling ignorance as we eventually discover that he is " just a traffic cop" with an unfortunate urge to arrest folk.
He must have pinched the uniform he's Clueless about the law. I liked the way he tried to be nice at the end.
He is being deprived of his freedom of movement in the fact that they do NOT have any reasonable suspicion of a crime being committed. They MAY have thought so at the beginning but after reading the legislation and seeing the weight of his drone then they should let him go.
Definite grounds for taking this to court.
A cupid stunt in action
yet again just shows how many brain cells they have get back to nicking speeders
The cops are an embarrassment ! They ain’t got a clue
We went from "you've commited an offence" to "I suspect you've commited an offence" to "I'm a traffic officer, I'll go get another officer, who fly drones to se if you have commited an offence" - these guys are a joke.
Imagine calling a cop for help and this guy turns up. He would ask the criminal for the law he has broken beecause he is traffic and knows nothing about rapr, burglary etc!
Then toss in a few threats..
The best part was when he had to go on the defensive about his uniform.
But you missed the best bit, where he went from "I'll go get another officer who fly drones to see if you have committed an offence" to DOH, you haven't committed an offence and I have just made a complete plonker of myself for all the internet to see.
I tried to discuss with you about drones, no you didn't you threatened him for flying a drone in public you melt
From a long time drone operator I must say you handled that very well indeed, it's a pity that all police aren't aware of the regs and would save a lot of time if they were trained, I do like how he didn't like being asked questions but was more than willing to ask you questions, well done for keeping calm and to the point
I think that police dogs are better trained than police men / women
He states he doesn’t know the Law. But his opening Gambit was that you were not allowed to fly a drone!
Exactly right it's not what you think or guess it's just does it contravene a law. See my remarks that explain this
I have seen lots of Videos like this it makes me weep
It's easy read the law learn it apply it.
A cop in america would’ve just pepper sprayed him as soon as he didn’t comply, I wish American cops were atleast like this man and could admit to his fault after being proven wrong, instead of refusing to except it and not getting in trouble for when THEY break the law
".... in public" .....what a maroon...🙄😂
What a pillock that cop was - no idea, and, being a pillock, no idea that he had no idea.
Great work, thank you.
He had the fucking nerve to say he's given you enough of his time
He is just ridiculous. No concept of irony at all in this idiot.
He’s obviously a Wally.
@@interestedparty00 Definitely a Wally.
Yep, he's a turd
I noticed that too!! fucking cheek of it
We also have strong suspicions that you’ve been breathing in a public place sir
Also, dude looks like Joe Wilkinson if he ACTUALLY lived in a skip.
Suspicion of walking on the cracks in the pavement, urinating in a public convenience, possession of an offensive wife and wearing a loud shirt in a built up area... guilty as charged.
@@julianchamberlain5399 possession of an offensive wife 🤣🤣
@@julianchamberlain5399 and finally looking at me in a funny way.
@@mickmcloughlin5816 Not my joke, but a good one for those not old enough. th-cam.com/video/BO8EpfyCG2Y/w-d-xo.html
I know he would terrorise a child with his look, demenour and behaviour. And we are paying for him to know nothing! If he is just traffic he should stop at a red light and stay there!
The absolute definition of "floundering".
👍🤣🤣🤣🤣
I love the backflip in approach as he begins to learn he F@@@ed up.
Why did he need 2 of his buddies with him just to have 'a chat'?
P.S. The only Criminal Offence was the cop interrupting the operator of an airborne device !
Policing by feelings rather than law ,a familiar tale
You should have offered to put your drone on the weighbridge. 😂
🤣
This officer needs to be retrained and have a written warning put on their records.
Needs jail time, they all do. The appropriate Authorities are working on putting these folks where they belong, be it body bag, the ground or behind bars. They're not safe to walk the streets with the rest of humanity.
@Gordon Gekko A bath, a shave, a good smarten up and an insight of the first principles of the law, before being let loose amongst the community.
@@thermion7869 Beards are trendy,did you watch game of thrones and Vikings.
@Gordon Gekko And a different job which needs less brain compute power.
There is no re-training stupid or thug imo!
Desperate. He continues to tell you that you can't do it because he's concerned about health and safety. My gf is a health and safety professional. He's supposed to be a cop.
I don't think he was reasonable at any point tbh. He was arrogantly ignorant throughout.
They should be able to do the job they're being trained on without getting distracted. I worked in construction for decades and I don't recall asking people to be quiet so I could concentrate. All part of the learning process. 😂
"I don't want to look like a wolly or something on youtube" lol! Typical constable who is clueless on the law regarding drones and caught himself out... he backtracked quickly when he realised he was talking to someone who wasn't just going to bend over for him and knew the law and their rights.
You dealt with this well Julian as you always do.
He made himself look like a "wally" or something on TH-cam.
The officer was perfectly correct, and in accordance with CAA guidance wanted to establish the legality of the flight. Had the frauditor identified the drone as sub-250g then that would have been the end. However the frauditor needed a conflict for his sad video, so escalated by refusing to answer a polite simple and appropriate question
Too late ...
@@dansroadtripz1195 Yawn, you really are one very limited little man. Only little girls use the term "Frauditor". Since when are people obliged to answer questions if they aren't breaking the law.
I’m a Traffic Officer who doesn’t know much about traffic either. You could smell the smoke coming off his back pedalling, his bullshit flap valve was wide open !! Read the CAA rules and still didn’t understand why he was talking bollox. Well done for educating at least three of the ‘force’ !
You were too nice to that cop in the end, he was clueless
He was clueless at the beginning.
And trying to get the auditor to stitch himself up!
He was happy to say he thought you were committing a crime and you were to hand over your personal details when he was reading from the CAA website, as soon as you prove you are lawfully allowed to do what you were doing, they suddenly decided the CAA website isn't good enough and need advice from a drone copper😂😂😂
“ I don’t think you’re allowed to do this! Now can you tell me what the law is please?” What a joke 😔
Sounds like a Mr. Bean sketch!
Gosh the back peddling from that traffic cop was embarrassing. He was trying to throw his weight around and it backfired badly, well done for holding your ground.
Why are the public required to educate the police in the law ?
This poor Wally officer is way out of his league !
because they are thick as pig shit...who will Lie without a Moments Notice.....Policed by over sensitive, Law Breaking/abusing Pansies
TBH the office was very good. Sound
Apparently the officer wants you and your drone to refrain from coming within sight of any Attention Deficit Officers (from here on known as ADOs) to decrease chances of the public knowing they are lacking basic knowledge in the job they are there to perform.
What an embarrassment of a cop who is absolutely clueless🙁.
A thought he did fairly well
No cuffs, no search, no detainment, no ID, he only said he wouldn't be arresting Julian, and most of all never mentioned the terrorist act
What more do you want
At least he's honest as there all clueless of the law most of the time
He’s a traffic cop. Why would he know about douche bags like this with his drone.
@@otlseal9159 You're ignoring the bit where he made up laws that don't exist and used them to demand details. His demeanour was aggressive until he realised he'd made at fool of himself, at which point he started acting all nice and humble to try to save face. Had he been confronting somebody more timid or less knowledgeable, they would have most likely complied with his unlawful demands.
@@DystopianUtopia I couldn’t agree with you more, and quite clearly @otlseal9159 either didn’t watch the video or is one of the cop’s mates (or in his police gang) to suggest the cop did nothing wrong.
I'll give the Policeman a pass, he answered you honestly and the other two hung back whilst he politely chatted with you.
Pathetic back pedalling on that officers behalf. He was hoping JC didn't have a handle on the law so he could beat him down. He's obviously gotten away with it for a while now. Good video.
This is absolutely ridiculous, you almost feel sorry for him - if it wasn't for him being in a position of power and clueless at his job
No excuse team ( no excuse for their stupidity?)
Excuses cannot be made for wilful ignorance compounded by cultivated idiocy.
almost being key here, they are terrorists, one cannot excuse criminality with a defense of just doing their job.
The odditurd can't help sucking off the piggies.
He’s a traffic cop ffs what would he know about drones.
4:50 this was precisely the moment this officer had a ‘sliding doors’ moment. He could have either swallowed his ego, admitted the error, and said ‘thank you sir, goodbye’… OR… pathetically attempt to justify himself and re-apportion the blame away from himself. Fragile ego, and low emotional control. Officers everywhere: The only way to earn respect is to behave with integrity at all times (especially when you’re wrong!) 👍
It's an offence for plods to rape ,abuse ,but they still do it !
Trust has gone
Brilliant walk of shame, slovenly walking away with hands in pockets! Admits finally there is NO OFFENSE but still goes on to offer "advice" !
It really comes to something when we have to tell the Police how to do their job.
They have the lowest IQ of any profession so we can't expect them to know anything.
@@Polecat54941 Yes it's very scary to know these cats are roaming free ready to pounce....and they have all the permissions of the Gov to kidnap, assault and even murder if they so much as get a bee under their bonnet
" You may have committed an offence", I'll phone a friend to make sure!, what a laugh!
I hope they aren’t looking for a pay rise this year. They need to pay for their education….
JC should bill them for his time educating the dunces
' i can only pass on what i feel' says it all, police by ego and not law
If the police get any thicker they will each need their own carer.
The copper was a reasonable guy, I'm pleased you started to mellow towards him (although you are right that we shouldn't be prevented or to have to justify what we are doing lawfully). Allowing him to make a call for advice on a sub 250 would have perhaps helped him. Wow, he was a bit dubious but did give you a bit of a show & tell of what they were doing, although got a bit edgy. Funny, whilst chatting with you, his partner made the call and got the advice on the sub 250 🤨
He was not reasonable at the beginning
It seems it's an offense to do anything legal these days... Ridiculous 🙄
No comment on that officer, but remember the covid days? There were many elements of the police who were enforcing non-existent laws and guidances that were not laws (and went much further than the law itself). They flew drones to shame people walking, which wasn't illegal. Police have to control their tendency to see bad in everyone with the evidence in front of them on any given occasion - and that often means no bad or wrong at all.
@@MrMesospheric hence in justian law or civil law you are guilty before proven innocent!!!
_"do you want the specific act and section ?"_
No, I'm happy for you to just make s__t up officer.
Oh dear, I was almost embarrassed for him. You should send the police an invoice for the training course.
He just kept droning on, didn't he... and he was closer than 50 metres and over 250 grams too !... 🙄😂
I can't believe the level of policing in this country has sunk so low!
unkempt, hands in pockets.. what happened to the neat haircuts and proper uniforms. Its not the first video i've seen with scruffy officersm and thats before we start on their actual knowledge of the law!
And it took him FIFTEEN YEARS to reach even that low standard 😂
I can
That`s what happens when you have a policy to let ANYONE into the police force. including the likes of rapists and murderes
I can see my remarks.
"I Don't want to look a wally on TH-cam". A bit too late for that officer. He eventually knew he'd screwed up and tried to explain his way out of an embarrassing situation, only to step deeper and deeper into the cow-shit he'd already trodden.
Thanks for the morning giggle. 😂👍👍
Great audit! 👏👏👏What an ignorant cop! First talking to you while you’re flying the drone.. then dishing out a lot of stuff not relevant.. for then realising he is being filmed, so a quick change in attitude! ‘I don’t know everything etc’ well find out before interacting! 😂
You were really more polite towards him than he deserved!
I thought that copper was a homeless person! He certainly looks like he is, what a scruffy specimen!
I thought it was a Mr.Bean spoof and had to re-check I was on the right channel!
have t oaagree he could stand outside sainsbury's witha empty cup and earn a few quid.... infact beggers near me look much better than him and never see any scuffy ones like that any more. he is one of those you could take to saville row spend a fortune and he still looks like compo
What a Wally 🙄 😂
You've been served, time for the walk of shame 😝😂
"I don't want to look a Wally on TH-cam".......FAIL!
If he does not know the law he should check first then come over if necessary - not just blag his way and hope he can intimidate you!
Not a bad bit of standing up for yourself and others but did you actually get the coppers details I.e. his name, rank , shoulder number and what location he works out of. If you did then I’m sorry but I didn’t hear you ask him for them and I didn’t hear his reply. You can also ask him to verify his details by showing you for the camera, his warrant card with his photograph on it (and check that it is in date). I know that it’s a fair bit to remember when you are in a stressful situation but if you don’t he can start telling you lie’s about what you can and can’t do, or even attempt to detain you. I bet that he still feels that he has the power to do the same actions to anyone else that he comes across who isn’t as sure of themselves as you obviously are. Well done for keeping your stance and not being mouthy with him, more people who own or fly drones should follow you’re example.
Yes, plenty to work on. Thanks for the feed back.
Sorry they deface the country's flag shouldn't be wearing the uniform
Constable Knobhead should have checked his facts first or, like he mentioned 20x, call the drone team before contacting you. I still find it disgusting that in the eyes of coppers you are always guilty until proven innocent. There should be a law that citizens could claim 10 GBP/Euro/Dollar for each minute a copper "detains" you while not breaking any laws.
Really well handled, he backed down quite quickly when you stood your ground.
Pigs making it up as they go along. Imagine my shock. I love how you kept your cool and hooked him in.
Am sure that copper is the Queens hand and wizard in the Series The Witcher that's maybe why he Don't know The laws of the land ?? keep up the Great work m8
"you've taken up quite a bit of my time" 😂 Who approached who, and held a member of the public there, all the time his colleagues checked there was actually no offence committed, and no reason therefore to hold a member of the public there in the first place. Could he dig a bigger hole for himself?
The victim is always the villain with cops!
Interesting. A cop, who deals mainly with traffic, doesn't know very much about what happens with traffic. Sensors, how trucks are picked out for inspection, etc. Yeah, wouldn't trust this one further than I could toss a jukebox regardless of how quickly he can change his tune - which he did several times. 🤦♀😜
No excuse team . there’s no excuse for bothering someone for flying a drone legally
Lawfully*
No excuse for being a shit cop.
No excuse for not knowing the law :D
Besides, he's full of excuses.
15:02 am i allowed in for a little tour? classic you could see the coppers cogs grind to a hault as he was called out.
I think the cop should stick to issuing speeding tickets.
Even if you were the senior no all about laws at the police training college, and you quoted the actual laws, they would still say they know more about it than you do.
For some reason they actually believe that no one but no one knows the laws more than they do. people are getting more educated on the laws and they will not accept that is happening.
He tried flipping that after his suspicious assertiveness slowly disappeared, they just can't help but be arrogant.
They work on "bullying", to cover their own ignorance, assuming you're as thick as they are.
maybe he should of checked the law about drones with his expertise before accusing you of commiting an offence ! bunch of snowflakes,.
I mean he was humble once exposed, but the fact he needed exposing and approached in the way he did....
The issue here is the same issue with all these situations - it's police officers giving orders without already knowing the law, because they assume the public will take their word for it. It's such a dangerous mentality on both sides.
If flying a drone over their heads is a "safety issue" for his colleagues they need to update their H&S risk assessment. Ironic he has NO EXCUSE TEAM emblazoned across his chest.
They certainly need more training. It isn't safe having people that easily distracted from operating machinery.
All birds above 20grams now banned from entering police personal airspace.
A little tiny drone verses a roof! A real safety issue!
Yes, but they're aloud to... 😂 Absolute clown country we live in.
Does anyone remember when cops wore a suit and a shirt and tie? This cop looks like he needs a pound for a cup of tea and a hot bath.
He has ‘No Excuse Team’ on his top. He has no excuse for his total ignorance of the law.
Boom. Exactly what I said.
You julian are worth more than 11k subs.
He suspected you of 'flying a drone in a public place!' 😳😲😁
Whatever next will he consider a crime? -
Walking your dog in a public park!
Driving your car on a public road.
Cycling past a public residence.
Walking along a public footpath.
Kicking a football in a park.
Flying a kite in a field on a windy day!
Going shopping in a public place??
I could go on and on but I think I made my point already.😁👍
You've actually given him a very useful practicle, public service training exercise and clearly he failed miserably!
We all are committing an offence we live in the UK hahahahaha
@@MrKevC It feels like just existing is sailing close to the wind of being on the wrong side of the law?
I mean not so long ago we weren't allowed out of our homes, or to get married or have a funeral for a loved one or visit an elderly family member in care etc.
I fly my drone out in the middle of nowhere, bothering nobody, minding my own business but after watching videos like this it makes me feel like I'm still doing 'something wrong'.⚠️😲😳
When a none drone flying member of the public watches a video like this and they see me flying one, they instantly think I'm acting nefariously!
@@pdtech4524 As a Drone operator myself even though it is only small time hobby for me I totally agree with you. Anything nowadays that you get a bit of fun and enjoyment out of they want to screw you over its all about making money and F--k the everyday man. Freedom of speech is being eroded faster than a salt mountain at sea. Do your thing and don't worry about all the other clowns is my advise 👍
Since when were bobble hats 'Standard Issue' for the swine, and since when was flying a drone in public a criminal offence(?) The answer to both these questions is NEVER. Keep flying high Julian 🙂
The badge which states No Excuse Team is is extremely relevant to this encounter. First I wasn't aware that this force are employing tramps, and his ignorance really is what it applies too: No Excuse for gross ignorance. Says it all. Great job, keep up the good work.
Yes the irony…no excuse team…😂😂😂😂
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The last time police officer acted like this with me I took a look at his eyes and said right.. stop right there do not move sit if you can and called 999 told them I have an officer maybe drink or high on something giving me a hard time doesn’t know what his talking about slurring mumbling plz help his showing his power while working for me the public
The cop based his concern on a simple safety issue, I call his concern based on ignorance. You're a very patient man Julian, I found him to be rather unpleasant.
Well he did admit to not knowing all the laws and I’d be happy to say 90% of the population don’t know the law around drones.
The cheek of him " i think iv given you enough of my time " 🤣🤣 how backwards can they get ... excuse me you come and interupted the drone pilot hes giving you his bloody time ..... imagine his poor kids when he thinks they may of done something wrong 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
They would have gladly wasted hours to take him to custody if they could.
If the mechanics were concentrating on their work, they wouldn't know there was a drone flying round.
Exactly, and if they are distracted by buzzing sounds while under a 40 ton truck they need some R&R time with the H&S executive
Whereas Radio 1 blasting out on their radios is no distraction at all. (Never known any depot without music).
They wouldn't fare well, fixing vehicles on the Ukrainian front line, would they?
"It would be unlawful for me to start trying to enforce things which don't exist". Exactly. I think he could be forgiven for not knowing all the rules around drones. What is not forgivable is attempting to blag it, claiming that there is a law being broken, and expecting that if he says it, and demands your information, with enough authority, you will believe it and comply. He should have accepted the fact that he doesn't know for sure, before saying a word to you, and he should have sought advice before trying to impose on you. It's also disappointing that his own failure to comply with body worn video and uniform policy is apparently something to be casually dismissed as irrelevant. Funny how he is very concerned with your compliance with the law and regulations, but his own, actual, breaches don't matter. He doesn't seem like a terrible bloke but so much of this still reflects what is wrong with modern policing in this country.
Pc plod had no idea.
came ouit all billy big balls, got quickly taken down and realised he was out of his depth and then tried backtracking when his "policey man jacket" didn't intimidate you into compliance. nice one.
You need to learn the the 10 points of the Police Code of Ethics. Honesty being the first. ie. Not making the laws up
@@thetruth9210 That's section 10. However, in this case they would quite be within their rights to report him at a later date. But not reporting him, that's section 10
@@thetruth9210 There was one where the auditor was "flying" a drone with an xbox controller, looking up in the sky. There was no drone.
Reminds me of the end of year school prank. 2 sheep were let loose. But before that one had a number 2 spray painted on the side, the second a number 5.
Took them a long time hunting for the 3 mythical sheep.
@@thetruth9210 I don't think you can commit entrapment as Joe Public. It only goes one way.
@@thetruth9210 It's aysmettric
He changed he's tune when you told him the laws yet again a clueless police officer who tryed to bully you into giving your details and we have police like him in the force.
Officer, you did not only look like a WALLY , you ARE a WALLY
the simple fact is they hate being filmed and held to account. they absolutely hate it. now that everyone has a camera phone, hand held camera or drone they can be filmed. big brother is now watching them. how the tables have turned. also people are now more savvy knowing their rights and laws, the police havnt a clue so make it up as they go along and just dig a hole for their egos and feelings.
I wonder have many times this cop has used the line IGNORANCE OF THE LAW IS NO EXCUSE. And in the end he still made himself look like a complete idiot.
This is not intended to be rude but that officer has similar facial expressions as you. Not a bad thing, but similar. He soon came down a peg or two when he realised that you knew the drone laws and he didn't.
Just stumbled across your channel. Got a sub from me. Some great stuff. Not always about giving them a hard time but also about education for the ones that are clueless. Keep up the good work. 👍🏻
Just subbed your channel too. 👍
@julianchamberlain5399 thankyou I appreciate them all
Arrogant and ignorant with sense of entitlement, a common trait for some people in a perceived position of power IMV
True
Does that Policeman know anything!
He’s got well and truly found out. He should go back to school!!!embarrassing!!
that cop tried to bully you at the start,then he winded his neck in because you stood your ground,well done !
An american cop wouldn’t have even had enough decency to check if he’s breaking the law. Corruption keeps cops outta trouble in america
I wonder if when they are under a lorry working they make sure there are no wasps in the area 😳👊🏴
What an embarrassment to the force. He needs removing from service ASAP. He's a danger to himself and others.
Respect Julian!
Very interesting interaction. Police accuse you of being in the wrong despite them not knowing the legislation. They then change their tune initially once they realise they’re being recorded and furthermore when they realise their ‘knowledge’ may be lacking somewhat.
Good job by the auditor. Nice calm conversation.
Remember , legislation states that it’s up to the Police (state) to PROVE that the accused has done something illegal. That’s important to remember whenever a police officer asks you to ‘Explain your understanding of the guidance’ etc. (You’re not legally obliged to explain your ‘understanding’). Remember the all important phrase of a police caution …. “You are not obliged to say anything…”.
Firstly correct their wording by stating it’s not ‘Guidance’ but ‘law’, and then turn the question back on them and rather than give your ‘understanding’, ask them to state exactly what legislation applies. What offence have you been suspected of committing etc.
Police are tasked with enforcing laws, not feelings etc.
Also, Police rarely want to ‘just have a chat’. They’re trying to gather evidence, construct a case AGAINST you. There are no ‘chats’.
well handled👍👍 apart from you like the beard , i think anyone who is serving the public should be clean shaving and smartly dressed .
"NO EXCUSE TEAM", can I presume Police can now adorn their uniform with any badges that they wish? I hope the senior management can have this addressed, not a good message to the public to whom they serve, is it?
@10.34 - Quite frankly I don't want to look a wally on TH-cam or whatever I may end up on... He scored an own goal there then!
Why don't they understand the difference between;
1. 'suspect you of an offence (don't know what)' and
2. 'suspect you of an offence (insert statue here)'?
And that's the problem if your gonna be a policeman you should know the laws and don't make them up 🤦♂️
Yes spot on my remarks
The "no excuse team" is making excuses for why he doesn't know the "laws" he's trying to enforce