Isn't it interesting that in a country like the US, where it's legal to carry in most situations, the police are relatively friendly, especially out in the country, while in a country like the UK where you're barely allowed to have a pen knife, let alone any self defence, the police is always very hostile? I wonder why...? It's almost as if they're not afraid of people at all.
@@CristiNeagu Oh yes...the good old US where the police are much friendlier than the UK police. Unfortunately statistics and many youtube videos prove you wrong.
@@kikii1 You're biased. Which statistics? Show me a source on how friendly or unfriendly the police is in the US and the UK. Which videos? It's pretty hard to find a video of a friendly interaction with police in the UK, but the internet is filled with very wholesome interactions with the police in the US.
@@CristiNeagu Haha that's hilarious. You think there's statistics on friendliness? Let me educate you...have a look at the many unfriendly US cop videos rather than the friendly ones you purposely search for. For statistics, have a look at the crimes committed by US police, including deaths. They are WAY more dangerous than the UK police. Oh and to try to use your brain and search for the source yourself. I have put you in the right direction, you just need to do a little work to find the facts. Biased is what you are, whereas I deal in statistics rather than delusion.
That cop was getting more and more angry as he realised you knew more than him he's ego couldn't take it , brilliant, he doesn't have the power he thinks he has and he lied about the helicopters
Cop started off bragging about how much he knew about drone flying then ended up saying he hadn’t flown one for a while they are so full of it. He was trying to get his id tag to identify him
They are trained from their first day never to admit that they're wrong, and never to allow anyone to disobey any order that they give, whether the order is lawful or not.
How stupid is it to harass a drone pilot when you don`t even know the law ? There needs to be some training to stop the officers embarrassing the force, the drone operators never get arrested because the police just seem clueless , for a professional that is his/her job to know the law it just looks bad in these videos. Also can we please have any officer with gang tattoes made to wear long sleeved shirts , again looks so unprofessional.
cops are lawyers all day...and they make laws and run parliament...then act like judges.. you are breaking the law? all in one...but educated like my 18y old son..
@@louisnealon6811 But their US vs them attitude stinks, they "are" public servents, but generally their egos and privilege is the first thing we encounter.
Scary how little the people flying them and this chat group know. Here are all the different laws you can fall foul of and be charged with from simply flying a drone: Air Navigation Order 2009, Article 138, 166 & 167 Public Order Act, 1988 S4 & S5 Protection From Harassment Act 1997 S2 Sexual Offences Act 2003 S67 Terrorism Act 2000 S58 and others Act likely to cause Breach of the Peace Public Nuisance Obstruction
@@aremedyfrosty That is not true. 18-22 weeks classroom training before at least 3 months on the job training. Hairdresser 2 year college course (16-18 year olds)
@@hairyferrit with the lack of knowledge of most police officers they must spend 20 weeks learning how to lie and misinterpret law and the other 2 weeks trying and failing to know the basics
Watching these videos it’s always the same… “ you are just being annoying aren’t you” , “ you’re just trying to cause an argument “ “ you’re being difficult” , and it’s always because you wont answer their questions . They can’t stand it !
"Innocent until proven guilty in a court of law" - If the police were forced to assume everyone was innocent until proven guilty they wouldn't be able to arrest anyone .
@@marklatimer7333 Everyone is innocent when arrested. The police don't arrest guilty people. We wouldn't needs courts if this were the case. They arrest people that they suspect are guilty. Current, credible evidence allows them to do this. The innocent party does not have to prove innocence - the accuser has to prove guilt. The suspect remains innocent (although suspected of being guilty) until proven guilty, or not guilty, in court. Not guilty does not mean innocent.
@@scotttchviski6706 I agree that's what the book says, but the handcuffs hurt the same weather you are innocent or guilty - the cell still smells of urine even if your conscience is clean. Being arrested is a deprivation of rights which should surely not happen to an innocent? Please don't the impression I think everyone should be let off, good grief no, lock the bu99ers up and throw away the key, I was just pointing out in the original comment that Innocent until .... is a stupid expression in the real world .
The Courts must rule on how many times a Police Officer can "Ask" for something before it automatically becomes a demand. They should not be able to stand there and ask for about 20 times and still claim "I'm just asking", when every time the answer is no.
An offence of harassment needs a "series" of events ie. two or more. It would need to be a public order offence of "causing harassment" of which asking something twenty times should qualify.
@@thefoxhat6163 Harassment, as a charge on its own requires a "series" of events, - two or more. But asking 20 times at the same event would certainly cause me alarm and distress.!
They put on the clown suit and the circus begins. Bring your own balloons. When you come for a battle of wits, leave your gun in the car and bring your brain instead.
Whoever thought those two thick coppers would be safe enough to carry firearms? Can’t imagine 2399 was at the front of the queue when intelligence was handed out. Nice one NNY, schooled them all nicely.
@C Bod "an English soldier devised the Scout motto: Be Prepared. He published it in Scouting for Boys in 1908. (Two years later, in 1910, the Boy Scouts of America was founded.)"
If only the police would lose their huge superiority complex and stop thinking that the public are beneath them. The job hardly requires a high intellect, as proved by the majority of these audits.
@@Mark-delta5 They do a gret job. These auditors show the police for the scum they are. A good, honest police offer wouldn't bat an eyelid at them because they aren't doing anything wrongnothing, but since the police force is full of criminals, bully scum bags, this is the reason auditors bring us videos showing us this.
"You won't fly your drone over the police HQ there's an helipad" few minutes later after being put in check by drone assist, "ok no problem have fun flying the drone over our HQ"... perfect example of think before you speak!
Dumb if you did try before checking if it was on the controlled airspace list. Also flying over any land not owned by you can open you up to trespass, civil action. Though most people are unaware that trespass includes airspace.
@@hairyferrit You need to check up on the trespass aspect of flying over property. If you flying low and at a level which would reasonably affect people on the property, then it would be trespass. But that would have to be very low, like below a few dozen feet. If you are flying higher than the roofs, then you aren't trespassing.
@@TheSadButMadLad I did, I work with laws every day of my life. I did not say that every flight would meet trespass, but any flight could be considered for such action. Trespass is civil and has much lower evidence standards than criminal. Also any act of trespass that results in breaching a criminal act such as voyeurism or harassment then opens up criminal trespass action as well.
Copper gets upset because NNH is actually abiding by the the law and the pilots operating protocol. Copper can't get it into his head that he has no lawful right to demand to see the operator ID when no law has been breached, is being breached or likely to be breached.
But that's never stopped a policeman from doing as he pleases because there is never ANY comeback, no slap on the wrist and if all else fails (make something up)
If you refuse the police are, in fact, allowed to confiscate your drone if they have reasonable suspicion that it is being used illegally or you yourself are breaking the law in that area. This is known as “Civil forfeiture.” What's worse, is that you can even face jail time for breaking drone laws. Refusing to show operators number is sufficient suspicion. I love how ignorant people are of the actual laws that police operate under.
@@hairyferrit Refusing to show the op ID is not grounds for sufficient suspicion on it own. It would need more than that. That NNY showed he knew more about the drone laws than the copper shows that he knows the law, so would have ensured that he follows it. Volunteering the info that he had the flyer ID even though it wasn't necessary, again removes any element of suspicion that NNY didn't have an op ID.
He's going to get some stick at the station for this one and rightly so, asking the 'suspect' to explain the relevant law to him, what an eejit, keep them vids coming NNY, love a good audit
The Cop seemed decent but frustrated he couldn't land a decent legal blow. Your very quick witted and knowledgeable on these drone laws. I love the sharp responses.
I really enjoy how you remain calm even when being provoked. One suggestion is whenever the cops start speaking over you and talking fast to just stop talking and wait for them to finish. Then after they finish ask them to repeat themselves from the beginning on the premise that you were talking when they started and didn't hear what they were saying. This will start to infuriate them after a while because most of the time they are not trying to have a conversation. They are simply trying to exert their authority and provoke you into getting angry or into otherwise providing them with justification to use force against you. When you calmly ask them to repeat themselves then you de-escalate the situation but that will still get under their skin.
I couldn't disagree more with your statement. He had some clue as he knew the difference between GPS and ATTI and with all due respect MOST modern drone operators don't have a clue what ATTI is or means or does let alone are able to fly in this flight mode. A point of obvious fact was his lack of updated information about drone rules which became evident and was duly pointed out.
Your operator ID doesn't have to be on top of the drone... the CAA say that it just must be on the main body of the drone, visible from the outside or within a compartment that can easily be accessed without using a tool.
Mine is on the main body under the battery for that exact reason. The battery can easily be removed without a tool. It fully complies with the law but no one can take a sneaky photo and then copy the ID to use on their illegal drone.
@@johnnyfearlesszrx I used to have one on each battery, i got pulled up that the battery COULD fall out and then i would be in breach of rules. My bigger issue was the battery getting hot after around 18 mins and the sticker melting.
This is exactly why it’s never good to talk to cops. Nice chat to interrogation with no provocation except failure to blindly comply with requests (not lawful orders).
Way too many cops, not enough crime. Such a waste of money. Standing around, talking about nothing. Harassing citizens that are not committing any crimes. These cops are too afraid to come up on real criminals. Defunding is necessary
13:25 Cop says he flies the drones for the police, yet is seriously lacking in knowledge about drone laws. Sounds like his training in using the drone just tells him what he needs to know, and he doesn't have to take a full exam to get a flyer ID.
@@leathleyg5995 Yep. Didn't say it was a hard exam, but it is one that you need to pass to get the ID. And to pass you need to have educated yourself about all aspects of flying a drone. Which the cop seems to have failed to do. Though I will let him off a bit when he said that he hadn't flown for a while.
They do not feel any obligation to know or to understand legislation as they know that they will be protected all the way by their seniors and the Courts.
Most of them did their A2 CofC and GVC years ago (written and flying tests), to fly heavy drones. They don't realise how few restrictions there are for sub 250g drones.
Holy Batman utility belts robin, I wonder how far these two plods could run with all that jingly jangly bits hanging off of them. Not content with a pistol and a couple of spare mags, I'm sure they've got an inflatable submarine in there somewhere!
I saw a tiny Policewoman in Australia with so much gear on her, including a tablet computer in a pocket on her trousers, that I would have bet that she could have run more than 30 metres without collapsing.
It allways amazes me how many millions and millions of pounds worth of police motors throughout Britain sat there doing nothing, I know they cannot all be out on the road at the same time but it seems to me there are too many if they are parked all the time.
Emergency helicopter landing area that is not marked ??? Did he mean any suitable field/area anywhere that can be used in an emergency? How are you to know where they will land in an emergency ? I smell BS
All helipads have to be clearly marked and visible from the air and registered with the CAA and obviously have all the necessary planning permissions from local authorities and are all clearly marked on pilots airmaps which come out yearly or in notams, the general rule is its not a helipad unless the above criteria apply and any body claiming your flying over a helipad that is not marked is talking bull,its like the police could say you were driving recklessly on a motorway when you were on your own private land...
Why are they so scared of a camera and of course a drone now near their police stations. It is not illegal is it. So what exactly is their problem. Is it because they cannot control what it sees. They are always close by, yet when you are burgled they are too busy to attend. It never ceases to amaze me the way they act as if it is the crime of the century flying a drone/ taking vids or pictures. Keep it up NNY and show them up every time they act stupid.
Actually one of the most interesting and informative "audits" I've seen. Yes the copper was a little pushy but he got nothing but educated and didn't let his ego resort push him into an abuse of some obscure legislation. Great video
PC Tackleberry........"You're supposed to have a pilots licence" I think that was a bit of a presumption that you haven't. Is he one of those dangerous plods that knows a little bit of the drone law but not the important bits, they're dangerous cops. Ask one of them on your next audit what the Q stands for in LGBTQ+.
Driving licence is nothing like a drone licence (operator ID). The "drone license" can be gained without any proof of competence, whereas a driving licence cannot. Part of the police drone team, not even correct about flying over private property 🙄
So a drone liecense is like a warrant card? No formal training needed, no proof of competance needed, hey presto, here have a warrant card.. At least with a driving license an independent test is carried out....
To get an Operator ID: No there’s no proof of competence To get a Flyer ID (which this size of drone doesn’t need): Yes you need to take a test on drone laws
You were right to call him out his “you are guilty until you can prove you are innocent” mindset! Cop “You’re not correct” NNY “No, YOU’RE not correct” Cop “Well, show me then”
Well that police officer wasn't the sharpest knife in the drawer was he. A classic example of a little knowledge being a dangerous thing. But because I wear a uniform, I am right and you are wrong. Ego and lack of intelligence is a dangerous combination.
Somebody in 'authority' should make plod aware that there is no such thing as 'police property'. They are provided with buildings and equipment to use by the taxpayers. They do NOT own anything. Not the land, buildings, cars, helicopters, guns, uniforms or anything else.
@@silverstreetmoto1458 The public doesn't legally own it. You might think that morally, you can go anywhere you want on land and property that's maintained and funded from the public purse. Sadly, real life isnt like that, there's a registered owner, - the police, so its considered private. Its not when it suits, its all the time.
@@leathleyg5995 the police do not privately own the stations or the land or anything associated with policing ..it is all supplied by the public .policing itself is at the publics pleasure and only allowed by the public to actually do their job ..they are public servants ..public land is owned by the public
@@patrolmanracv That sounds so "sovereign citizen".... And as such ...totally wrong. Do a check, a Land Registry search. You will find that the legal owners of police stations are the local Police Commissioners Office, not the general public. They're classed as private property, the public's access is via a permission, not by a granted right. Trespass can be enforced by any police employee on police property, not that they're always aware of it though.
These police should know the law , because they don’t seem to understand it , need retraining, lest they were half decent great video stay safe retired lifeboatmen
Wow , best answers ever 👏 well done. Imagine their "evidence" if there was no camera, if they constantly lie about what they say like that. The bearded guy is talking to NNY to keep him occupied
18:20 NOTAMs are not updated because of an emergency helicopter coming in. NOTAMs are created in advance of an event, not at the time of an event. And they require up to 90 days notice. Emergency helicopters never know when they are going to be up. When flying a drone you need to be listening out for any other aircraft and to land ASAP when you hear one. A helicopter is a noisy aircraft and would give enough notice for the drone pilot to land.
Nny top guy !! Straight on it no messing. Hardcore which I like alot. So carry on with the top content. 1 thing tho micheal when your droning n you can sniper up on a group of fed so they can hear the routersof the drone,wind em up bro. Keep up the good work my SOLJA
Do it more bro. Who agrees?? Wind the nob eds up Micheal,spin that drone 30feet away that's sufficient. Wot we saying peeps r we in agreement 🤝 ✌️ Safe to our proper community 👍
It was awsome watching these know it all cops get totally owned by you! They were both laughing when they returned to the car but this was just to hide their embarrassment for being verbally slapped in the face by NNY. 😂🤣😂
Ham head beardy is just looking for a arguement he would not know shit from clay and he sure isn't clay, Wonderful vid beautiful country side cheers bob from down under.
I wouldn't give the hairy inky guys any respect. They show poor judgement about their looks and so are likely to have poor judgement about everything else. Just noticed the desecrated flag which confirms his ugliness. What a waste of police time - and vehicles.
Been watching you for a while to see if you get better. You certainly have, and tied Mr. Ignorant Plod up in knots. Very, very well done and kept your cool while he was getting tongue-tied and flustered. I've now subbed to your channel and look forward to more excellent content.
Why would you fly your drone over police installations/buildings ? What is the point ? We all know that coppers know shit about drone legislation so why get involved in some unnecessary and time consuming argument ? I would think, and I am a drone pilot too, that most pilots try to stay well away from people in general and the police in particular when flying their drones.
Having watched this now. This officer did not like it when you challenged him he said he knew about the legislation. In the end he admitted that he had not flown a drone recently. So much for the helicopter landing.
The best and most respectful thing you can do for yourself when you meet the police is SAY NOTHING as they only want to find the smallest thing to charge you with anything.
THREE police cars recklessly parked on double yellow lines when there was no emergency and nobody breaking the law. Nice of you to talk to them but you don't need to.
The little baldy cop was funny, I think he thinks he is action man but he is more like gadget man 🤣😂 what would have made this video even better would have been to see him run with all that gear on
Didn’t tell you he was filming. He was trying to capture information. That’s a GDPR breach but nothing is ever done about it. It’s actually a breach of privacy under international human rights law. That cop who admits he doesn’t know the law. Then lies. What absolute clown Oh I can’t bear to watch these vile abusers. Just trying to stitch him up.
14:00 This officer believes he can make up laws and that the public have to prove him wrong. You're saying he needs a licence, yet you won't show anything to prove it. The burden of proof lies with the prosecution officer. Not with the defence.
You're supposed to have a reasonably grasp of the law to wear police uniform but hey ho each to their own constable.
like it..... as if the police know about the law!
@Don't Shoot You do not understand English irony obviously. What a pathetic excuse of a human being you are. “As miserable as sin”
legal activities.. that inc being an absolute idiot for trying to justify audit actions??..
“You’re just being annoying” translates into I can’t bully, intimate or incriminate you, so I’ll revert back to a petulant, spoilt child.
Solution...
always carry a bag of sweets with u to placate them 😂🤣
Most people do ,only a very small amount don't
From the get go the bloke with the camera was being a twat. You need a operators ID to fly any drone with a camera.
In all interactions with the police, the number one thought in your mind must always be: The police are not your friends.
Well said, trust none of them!
Isn't it interesting that in a country like the US, where it's legal to carry in most situations, the police are relatively friendly, especially out in the country, while in a country like the UK where you're barely allowed to have a pen knife, let alone any self defence, the police is always very hostile? I wonder why...? It's almost as if they're not afraid of people at all.
@@CristiNeagu Oh yes...the good old US where the police are much friendlier than the UK police. Unfortunately statistics and many youtube videos prove you wrong.
@@kikii1 You're biased. Which statistics? Show me a source on how friendly or unfriendly the police is in the US and the UK. Which videos? It's pretty hard to find a video of a friendly interaction with police in the UK, but the internet is filled with very wholesome interactions with the police in the US.
@@CristiNeagu Haha that's hilarious. You think there's statistics on friendliness? Let me educate you...have a look at the many unfriendly US cop videos rather than the friendly ones you purposely search for. For statistics, have a look at the crimes committed by US police, including deaths. They are WAY more dangerous than the UK police. Oh and to try to use your brain and search for the source yourself. I have put you in the right direction, you just need to do a little work to find the facts. Biased is what you are, whereas I deal in statistics rather than delusion.
That cop was getting more and more angry as he realised you knew more than him he's ego couldn't take it , brilliant, he doesn't have the power he thinks he has and he lied about the helicopters
They all seem to be hopelessly deluded about having some grain of interlect 😅😆😄
Cop started off bragging about how much he knew about drone flying then ended up saying he hadn’t flown one for a while they are so full of it. He was trying to get his id tag to identify him
You're deluded, that officer was a extremely calm guy. Compare this video tall all his other videos and you'll see.
They are trained from their first day never to admit that they're wrong, and never to allow anyone to disobey any order that they give, whether the order is lawful or not.
They are losing the public support they once had
How stupid is it to harass a drone pilot when you don`t even know the law ? There needs to be some training to stop the officers embarrassing the force, the drone operators never get arrested because the police just seem clueless , for a professional that is his/her job to know the law it just looks bad in these videos. Also can we please have any officer with gang tattoes made to wear long sleeved shirts , again looks so unprofessional.
I think the "professional" drone pilot s got a surprise with the new regulations on small drones, and often miss quote or just don't care
cops are lawyers all day...and they make laws and run parliament...then act like judges..
you are breaking the law? all in one...but educated like my 18y old son..
Agreed, Alan! The tattoos are horrendous. So unprofessional. They should, indeed, be covered. Well, at least he wasn't chewing gum!
@@louisnealon6811 But their US vs them attitude stinks, they "are" public servents, but generally their egos and privilege is the first thing we encounter.
they proberbly ex forces so having tattoos doesnt impack thier judgment.
It's scary that most of these videos shows how little our UK police knows about the law.
Scary how little the people flying them and this chat group know. Here are all the different laws you can fall foul of and be charged with from simply flying a drone:
Air Navigation Order 2009, Article 138, 166 & 167
Public Order Act, 1988 S4 & S5
Protection From Harassment Act 1997 S2
Sexual Offences Act 2003 S67
Terrorism Act 2000 S58 and others
Act likely to cause Breach of the Peace
Public Nuisance
Obstruction
So they'll just make it up as they go along.
As Officer PC2399 was doing.
@@aremedyfrosty By the look of his hair he should've taken the hairdressing.
@@aremedyfrosty That is not true. 18-22 weeks classroom training before at least 3 months on the job training. Hairdresser 2 year college course (16-18 year olds)
@@hairyferrit with the lack of knowledge of most police officers they must spend 20 weeks learning how to lie and misinterpret law and the other 2 weeks trying and failing to know the basics
“You are just being annoying aren’t you”
Annoying because you know everything I should know and you are making me look very silly.
Watching these videos it’s always the same… “ you are just being annoying aren’t you” , “ you’re just trying to cause an argument “ “ you’re being difficult” , and it’s always because you wont answer their questions . They can’t stand it !
With the reply, " it being annoying legislated as being unlawful?"
Way to stand up for yourself. Well done!
“Innocent until proven guilty”, not with this Jack boot wearing police force your not.
"Innocent until proven guilty in a court of law" - If the police were forced to assume everyone was innocent until proven guilty they wouldn't be able to arrest anyone .
@@marklatimer7333 true, but that rozzer was asking him to prove he wasn’t guilty. Starting from a ‘you are guilty’ stand point is just wrong.
@@thedad7313 They all do that because they rely on you admitting guilt because they don't have any else you would be nicked already .
@@marklatimer7333 Everyone is innocent when arrested. The police don't arrest guilty people. We wouldn't needs courts if this were the case.
They arrest people that they suspect are guilty. Current, credible evidence allows them to do this.
The innocent party does not have to prove innocence - the accuser has to prove guilt.
The suspect remains innocent (although suspected of being guilty) until proven guilty, or not guilty, in court. Not guilty does not mean innocent.
@@scotttchviski6706 I agree that's what the book says, but the handcuffs hurt the same weather you are innocent or guilty - the cell still smells of urine even if your conscience is clean.
Being arrested is a deprivation of rights which should surely not happen to an innocent?
Please don't the impression I think everyone should be let off, good grief no, lock the bu99ers up and throw away the key, I was just pointing out in the original comment that Innocent until .... is a stupid expression in the real world .
Keep up the great work young fellow. You are a very amicable. Knowledgeable, Eloquent .
The usual thing, giving out directives without knowing the legislation on a 249g drone.
The Courts must rule on how many times a Police Officer can "Ask" for something before it automatically becomes a demand.
They should not be able to stand there and ask for about 20 times and still claim "I'm just asking", when every time the answer is no.
That is harassment.
An offence of harassment needs a "series" of events ie. two or more. It would need to be a public order offence of "causing harassment" of which asking something twenty times should qualify.
If its continually repeated, usually 3 times is enough. After that, its probably harassment.
@@thefoxhat6163 Harassment, as a charge on its own requires a "series" of events, - two or more.
But asking 20 times at the same event would certainly cause me alarm and distress.!
A definition of insanity. Repeating exactly the same action over and over and each time expecting a different result.
“We were just nearby” if this were true every time they attend an audit they would be everywhere!
Well most of them seem to think they're god so that's how they're everywhere. ; )
They put on the clown suit and the circus begins. Bring your own balloons.
When you come for a battle of wits, leave your gun in the car and bring your brain instead.
Never nearby a real crime ..
Whoever thought those two thick coppers would be safe enough to carry firearms? Can’t imagine 2399 was at the front of the queue when intelligence was handed out. Nice one NNY, schooled them all nicely.
The police guy pictured is like a Swiss Army policeman - a tool for every occasion !
@C Bod
"an English soldier devised the Scout motto: Be Prepared. He published it in Scouting for Boys in 1908. (Two years later, in 1910, the Boy Scouts of America was founded.)"
@C Bod I think they are (pink) scissors, but I'm willing to be proved wrong !
He’s the biggest tool.
..and all connected to the biggest tool
@C Bod The pink ones are to play around with his colleague!!
Nothing like doing the officers job for him. I would have asked for my weekly paycheck and some vacation time.
What makes him think an ID and license are the same thing? They can be however, a citizen card is not a driving license.
Very concerning when there’s armed officers trying to implement laws that they don’t know. Then doesn’t know that you’re innocent until proven guilty.
Yes be careful not to break that 75 tonne transmitter with your 250 gram drone.
The ink in his arms has gone to his brain, forgive him.
What brain?
Agreed lol 👍👍👍
If only the police would lose their huge superiority complex and stop thinking that the public are beneath them. The job hardly requires a high intellect, as proved by the majority of these audits.
Thing is they weren't it's more the price filming being an arrogant wanker.
It's coz the public are we are stupid
Probably because during training they are brain washed into believing they are better than the public, the keepers of the law and order
It`s comforting that firearms units are always "close by" when an auditor is carrying out legal activities !
It's a police station.. ffs get a life.
These bloody auditors go around trying to justify their sad lives..
Go get a proper job...
@@Mark-delta5 Oh dear. what's your problem?
@@jimmyccam I've no problem at all.
These so called auditers go around for nothing more than to wind folk up.
Oh aye. I will sleep a lot better.
@@Mark-delta5 They do a gret job. These auditors show the police for the scum they are. A good, honest police offer wouldn't bat an eyelid at them because they aren't doing anything wrongnothing, but since the police force is full of criminals, bully scum bags, this is the reason auditors bring us videos showing us this.
"You won't fly your drone over the police HQ there's an helipad" few minutes later after being put in check by drone assist, "ok no problem have fun flying the drone over our HQ"... perfect example of think before you speak!
Dumb if you did try before checking if it was on the controlled airspace list.
Also flying over any land not owned by you can open you up to trespass, civil action. Though most people are unaware that trespass includes airspace.
@@hairyferrit You need to check up on the trespass aspect of flying over property. If you flying low and at a level which would reasonably affect people on the property, then it would be trespass. But that would have to be very low, like below a few dozen feet. If you are flying higher than the roofs, then you aren't trespassing.
I heard the bit when he was back peddling and he said it was more of a putting green than a heli pad. 23:00
@@hairyferrit you need to stop commenting. You are a disgusting liar.
@@TheSadButMadLad I did, I work with laws every day of my life. I did not say that every flight would meet trespass, but any flight could be considered for such action. Trespass is civil and has much lower evidence standards than criminal. Also any act of trespass that results in breaching a criminal act such as voyeurism or harassment then opens up criminal trespass action as well.
Copper gets upset because NNH is actually abiding by the the law and the pilots operating protocol. Copper can't get it into his head that he has no lawful right to demand to see the operator ID when no law has been breached, is being breached or likely to be breached.
But that's never stopped a policeman from doing as he pleases because there is never ANY comeback, no slap on the wrist and if all else fails (make something up)
Remember, after ID is obtained, it counts as a “call”. More calls each year, equals more money to their department. “ We’ve been so busy”
@@gregkasza1925 achieveing what though? Police stats look terrible and getting worse.
If you refuse the police are, in fact, allowed to confiscate your drone if they have reasonable suspicion that it is being used illegally or you yourself are breaking the law in that area. This is known as “Civil forfeiture.” What's worse, is that you can even face jail time for breaking drone laws.
Refusing to show operators number is sufficient suspicion. I love how ignorant people are of the actual laws that police operate under.
@@hairyferrit Refusing to show the op ID is not grounds for sufficient suspicion on it own. It would need more than that. That NNY showed he knew more about the drone laws than the copper shows that he knows the law, so would have ensured that he follows it. Volunteering the info that he had the flyer ID even though it wasn't necessary, again removes any element of suspicion that NNY didn't have an op ID.
He's going to get some stick at the station for this one and rightly so, asking the 'suspect' to explain the relevant law to him, what an eejit, keep them vids coming NNY, love a good audit
Nah - they will just be as clueless as them. Force is packed with incompetence.
@@MikeSmith-rd9fi sadly I think your are right. Literally no one is bothered anymore.
That was hard work! Police get schooled on drone rules and regulations.
The drone expert wasn’t really much of an expert was he. Started off reasonably well and ended up looking like a fool.
Like a tool.
The Cop seemed decent but frustrated he couldn't land a decent legal blow. Your very quick witted and knowledgeable on these drone laws. I love the sharp responses.
Ya just know there will come a point where the cop goes from friendly to hostile tone 🙈
You can say that again ..lol 😆 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
at 4:58
@@eddievandriver2273 He was the creep who clearly called. What a fake two faced p***k. Hate people like this.
Started off OK. Then the cop started getting stroppy. Proof that you can never trust the beggars. They are not your friends.
Well done, innocent until proven guilty, that rocked and reminded him.
Crikey, that drone officer isn't exactly the sharpest tool in the box is he.
An absolute dim wit haha
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In my opinion he is as thick as a submarine door
Fking scary!
Just making it up as he goes along.
" you wasn't going to shoot me and throw me in the cage was you ?? " 😂🤣 don't be daft , they'll just dump your carcass in woodland instead 😉 😁
I really enjoy how you remain calm even when being provoked. One suggestion is whenever the cops start speaking over you and talking fast to just stop talking and wait for them to finish. Then after they finish ask them to repeat themselves from the beginning on the premise that you were talking when they started and didn't hear what they were saying. This will start to infuriate them after a while because most of the time they are not trying to have a conversation. They are simply trying to exert their authority and provoke you into getting angry or into otherwise providing them with justification to use force against you. When you calmly ask them to repeat themselves then you de-escalate the situation but that will still get under their skin.
Embarrassing a drone cop who is totally clueless in his specialty,
I couldn't disagree more with your statement. He had some clue as he knew the difference between GPS and ATTI and with all due respect MOST modern drone operators don't have a clue what ATTI is or means or does let alone are able to fly in this flight mode. A point of obvious fact was his lack of updated information about drone rules which became evident and was duly pointed out.
Your operator ID doesn't have to be on top of the drone... the CAA say that it just must be on the main body of the drone, visible from the outside or within a compartment that can easily be accessed without using a tool.
Mine is on the main body under the battery for that exact reason. The battery can easily be removed without a tool.
It fully complies with the law but no one can take a sneaky photo and then copy the ID to use on their illegal drone.
Does smashing the case of the drone count as not using a tool to gain access to the operator ID? ;-)
@@TheSadButMadLad are you using a tool to smash it?
That means the police can't open a compartment to see it then because they're all a load of tools
@@johnnyfearlesszrx I used to have one on each battery, i got pulled up that the battery COULD fall out and then i would be in breach of rules. My bigger issue was the battery getting hot after around 18 mins and the sticker melting.
Your attitude is so argumentative, the cops were being so polite and courteous, you were just being awkward for the sake of it, why?
This is exactly why it’s never good to talk to cops. Nice chat to interrogation with no provocation except failure to blindly comply with requests (not lawful orders).
Perfect example of why you should never talk to police - they are no there to help you in any way.
Way too many cops, not enough crime. Such a waste of money. Standing around, talking about nothing. Harassing citizens that are not committing any crimes. These cops are too afraid to come up on real criminals. Defunding is necessary
I take it your from the US?
The recent shooting in Texas shows that you're right about Cops being afraid to catch REAL criminals!!
@@Hannah-pk6iq think he is last time I checked they want more officer 😂
13:25 Cop says he flies the drones for the police, yet is seriously lacking in knowledge about drone laws. Sounds like his training in using the drone just tells him what he needs to know, and he doesn't have to take a full exam to get a flyer ID.
All 40 multiple guess questions you mean?
@@leathleyg5995 Yep. Didn't say it was a hard exam, but it is one that you need to pass to get the ID. And to pass you need to have educated yourself about all aspects of flying a drone. Which the cop seems to have failed to do. Though I will let him off a bit when he said that he hadn't flown for a while.
They do not feel any obligation to know or to understand legislation as they know that they will be protected all the way by their seniors and the Courts.
Most of them did their A2 CofC and GVC years ago (written and flying tests), to fly heavy drones. They don't realise how few restrictions there are for sub 250g drones.
@@TheSadButMadLad I agree, apart from the letting him off bit.
Look at the state of that 'drone' orrifcer. Imagine been related to him. The shame. He is supposed to be an expert. Out of his depth. Well done NNY.
The number of Coppers that are desperate to escape the hole they have dug by continuing to dig and even deeper hole is astounding
Holy Batman utility belts robin, I wonder how far these two plods could run with all that jingly jangly bits hanging off of them. Not content with a pistol and a couple of spare mags, I'm sure they've got an inflatable submarine in there somewhere!
At least a partially trained policeman's attack dog !
He was certainly up shit creek without a paddle
Inflatable girlie
I saw a tiny Policewoman in Australia with so much gear on her, including a tablet computer in a pocket on her trousers, that I would have bet that she could have run more than 30 metres without collapsing.
UK 'gun culture creep' - where armed sausages are routinely deployed to deal with a member of the public performing a legal activity.
Prelude to the dozy Pcso's being armed with tasers.
@@ianhill4585 Always has been - anything the US cops have, then the childish UK cops sooner or later have to copy them.
A old bloke I knew who had spent a few years as a POW in WW2 would say that giving an insecure man/woman a gun and a uniform is never a good idea.
Shocking really, A drone pilot for the police force yet doesn't know the legislation surrounding the use of one in public.
Not shocking, typical. They don't understand basic laws to start with.
It allways amazes me how many millions and millions of pounds worth of police motors throughout Britain sat there doing nothing, I know they cannot all be out on the road at the same time but it seems to me there are too many if they are parked all the time.
shutup
At least they didn't leave the engine running like they normally do.
DJ Audits did one recently and out of sight from everyone without a drone was a line of 13 large vans. I wonder how much they were worth.
What a jOKE you need nothing!!
He needs training !!!!and to LEARN THE LAW!!!!!!!!!
I like your honesty.
Emergency helicopter landing area that is not marked ??? Did he mean any suitable field/area anywhere that can be used in an emergency? How are you to know where they will land in an emergency ? I smell BS
All helipads have to be clearly marked and visible from the air and registered with the CAA and obviously have all the necessary planning permissions from local authorities and are all clearly marked on pilots airmaps which come out yearly or in notams, the general rule is its not a helipad unless the above criteria apply and any body claiming your flying over a helipad that is not marked is talking bull,its like the police could say you were driving recklessly on a motorway when you were on your own private land...
Half-baked training is as useful as no training at all 🤣
Why are they so scared of a camera and of course a drone now near their police stations. It is not illegal is it. So what exactly is their problem. Is it because they cannot control what it sees. They are always close by, yet when you are burgled they are too busy to attend. It never ceases to amaze me the way they act as if it is the crime of the century flying a drone/ taking vids or pictures. Keep it up NNY and show them up every time they act stupid.
Yep, if they can't control it, then their mental image of being in control of the public falls apart and their whole reason for existence disappears.
That cop might not be the smartest tool in the box but an absolutely quality interaction, brilliant job N.N.Y.👌
Its SHARPEST NOT SMARTEST! jeez get right.
"i am a drone pilot, but i haven't been for a while, i dont know all the laws, but i do know that im a thick twat" well said that plod
He needs 'thick twat' written as a permanent tattoo
Actually one of the most interesting and informative "audits" I've seen. Yes the copper was a little pushy but he got nothing but educated and didn't let his ego resort push him into an abuse of some obscure legislation. Great video
PC Tackleberry........"You're supposed to have a pilots licence"
I think that was a bit of a presumption that you haven't. Is he one of those dangerous plods that knows a little bit of the drone law but not the important bits, they're dangerous cops.
Ask one of them on your next audit what the Q stands for in LGBTQ+.
and he claimed to be a police drone operator, .................... sheesh
It's called the Dunning Kruger Effect. Having a bit of knowledge and thinking they know everything.
@@TheSadButMadLad yup and never accepting they could be wrong
The letter people. That’s what I call them.
Driving licence is nothing like a drone licence (operator ID). The "drone license" can be gained without any proof of competence, whereas a driving licence cannot. Part of the police drone team, not even correct about flying over private property 🙄
So a drone liecense is like a warrant card?
No formal training needed, no proof of competance needed, hey presto, here have a warrant card..
At least with a driving license an independent test is carried out....
To get an Operator ID: No there’s no proof of competence
To get a Flyer ID (which this size of drone doesn’t need): Yes you need to take a test on drone laws
You were right to call him out his “you are guilty until you can prove you are innocent” mindset!
Cop “You’re not correct”
NNY “No, YOU’RE not correct”
Cop “Well, show me then”
That’s right. The burden of prove is on the accuser not the accused
So the police can now just stop, get out, and give an opinion to a law abiding citizen when they're doing nothing wrong.
They've become a joke.
Corporate thugs now basically.
@@user-pf5xq3lq8i Correct
they just hate when you poke their ignorance EGO ...well done educating while keeping it private. innocent till proven guilty 😂
Well that police officer wasn't the sharpest knife in the drawer was he. A classic example of a little knowledge being a dangerous thing. But because I wear a uniform, I am right and you are wrong. Ego and lack of intelligence is a dangerous combination.
Ironically,I'm eating Percy pig sweets whilst watching this.
Somebody in 'authority' should make plod aware that there is no such thing as 'police property'.
They are provided with buildings and equipment to use by the taxpayers. They do NOT own anything.
Not the land, buildings, cars, helicopters, guns, uniforms or anything else.
Absolute rubbish.
My thoughts too,how can publicly funded buildings etc be deemed private when it suits them
@@silverstreetmoto1458 The public doesn't legally own it. You might think that morally, you can go anywhere you want on land and property that's maintained and funded from the public purse. Sadly, real life isnt like that, there's a registered owner, - the police, so its considered private. Its not when it suits, its all the time.
@@leathleyg5995 the police do not privately own the stations or the land or anything associated with policing ..it is all supplied by the public .policing itself is at the publics pleasure and only allowed by the public to actually do their job ..they are public servants ..public land is owned by the public
@@patrolmanracv That sounds so "sovereign citizen"....
And as such ...totally wrong. Do a check, a Land Registry search. You will find that the legal owners of police stations are the local Police Commissioners Office, not the general public. They're classed as private property, the public's access is via a permission, not by a granted right. Trespass can be enforced by any police employee on police property, not that they're always aware of it though.
These police should know the law , because they don’t seem to understand it , need retraining, lest they were half decent great video stay safe retired lifeboatmen
apparently hes had training lol
Wow , best answers ever 👏 well done. Imagine their "evidence" if there was no camera, if they constantly lie about what they say like that.
The bearded guy is talking to NNY to keep him occupied
18:20 NOTAMs are not updated because of an emergency helicopter coming in. NOTAMs are created in advance of an event, not at the time of an event. And they require up to 90 days notice. Emergency helicopters never know when they are going to be up. When flying a drone you need to be listening out for any other aircraft and to land ASAP when you hear one. A helicopter is a noisy aircraft and would give enough notice for the drone pilot to land.
More proof that this "drone pilot" cop is seriously stupid.
Michael, you should be getting paid by the Police for spending time educating them!
Nny top guy !! Straight on it no messing. Hardcore which I like alot. So carry on with the top content. 1 thing tho micheal when your droning n you can sniper up on a group of fed so they can hear the routersof the drone,wind em up bro. Keep up the good work my SOLJA
Do it more bro. Who agrees?? Wind the nob eds up Micheal,spin that drone 30feet away that's sufficient. Wot we saying peeps r we in agreement 🤝 ✌️ Safe to our proper community 👍
It was awsome watching these know it all cops get totally owned by you!
They were both laughing when they returned to the car but this was just to hide their embarrassment for being verbally slapped in the face by NNY. 😂🤣😂
You and DJ in a league of your own. Phenomenonal.
Ham head beardy is just looking for a arguement he would not know shit from clay and he sure isn't clay, Wonderful vid beautiful country side cheers bob from down under.
I wouldn't give the hairy inky guys any respect. They show poor judgement about their looks and so are likely to have poor judgement about everything else. Just noticed the desecrated flag which confirms his ugliness. What a waste of police time - and vehicles.
2:00 There appears to be something wrong with their Union Jack.
Been watching you for a while to see if you get better. You certainly have, and tied Mr. Ignorant Plod up in knots. Very, very well done and kept your cool while he was getting tongue-tied and flustered. I've now subbed to your channel and look forward to more excellent content.
Why would you fly your drone over police installations/buildings ? What is the point ? We all know that coppers know shit about drone legislation so why get involved in some unnecessary and time consuming argument ? I would think, and I am a drone pilot too, that most pilots try to stay well away from people in general and the police in particular when flying their drones.
He just had to try and get the last word in with “no crashing” 😏
The speed of your responses is incredible. It’s almost like you know what they’re going to say before they even say it.
The day the cops learn the law then pigs will fly.
You need a pilots licence to fly a pig.
He doesn’t know the drone laws and yet he did a extensive training course paid by public money 🤔
Cops out of their remit
First guy reminded me of Matthew Kelly.
A cop called NICK😂
Having watched this now. This officer did not like it when you challenged him he said he knew about the legislation. In the end he admitted that he had not flown a drone recently. So much for the helicopter landing.
The best and most respectful thing you can do for yourself when you meet the police is SAY NOTHING as they only want to find the smallest thing to charge you with anything.
Cumbria isn't 'all unrestricted airspace', they've got Sellafield and quite a few army ranges
Bae barrow
My dear mums' favourite saying... " I didn't say you were, I said don't " .
THREE police cars recklessly parked on double yellow lines when there was no emergency and nobody breaking the law. Nice of you to talk to them but you don't need to.
Typical hog parking.
The little baldy cop was funny, I think he thinks he is action man but he is more like gadget man 🤣😂 what would have made this video even better would have been to see him run with all that gear on
Shanghai bout 2 watch ;D - Hope that wasn't this cops opening line! As NNY always says . . cordial interactions fi the start helps defuse
PC 2399 so spun around and confused he probably gave himself a migraine.
Like discussing astrophysics with a cat.
Didn’t tell you he was filming. He was trying to capture information. That’s a GDPR breach but nothing is ever done about it. It’s actually a breach of privacy under international human rights law. That cop who admits he doesn’t know the law. Then lies. What absolute clown Oh I can’t bear to watch these vile abusers. Just trying to stitch him up.
"Do I need to have a driving license to drive a remote controlled car? No? NOW FUCK OFF THEN!"
14:00 This officer believes he can make up laws and that the public have to prove him wrong. You're saying he needs a licence, yet you won't show anything to prove it.
The burden of proof lies with the prosecution officer.
Not with the defence.
Yep, this is a the corner stone of Law and they just don't get it. Pathetic
the drive of shame
I wonder if they treat criminals with the same contempt as they do the public
Nope
If a time served , hardened real criminal turned up ...they'd crap themselves ..and dissappear..
The police officer doesn't know drone law but insists on digging..... just stop and listen to Michael hopefully learn something.
the shitty polite attitude works again, 💪 🙂
They got the guns but they do not give them any bullets just blanks that’s what there wife’s say
i love the wide leg tough guy stance ! no one else ever stands like like that, only look how tough i am police little boys
In other words, Your doing what you are legally allowed to do, just to cause an argument.
Armed response for a drone...and they got Glocks I wouldn't trust them with a Glockenspiel! OMG!, this country is DOOMED!