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I would disagree with you and Adam, re Hate Comments. My nature is to FIRST find out.......IS THE PERSON SINCERE OR NOT SINCERE. (Many critics are sincere and mean well or are just expressing their 2 cents, while others are just phony haters who are trying to be mean to feel power or whatever.) ONCE I DISCOVER IF MY CRITIC IS SINCERE, I examine if the Criticism is ACCURATE or NOT accurate. ex: imagine someone saying "I HATE METALLICA....CUZ THEIR GUITARS ARE DISTORTED"! That would not be great criticism, cuz, that's uh....kinda their thing! I LOVE CRITICISM....as long as it's SINCERE. Sometimes you learn things you didn't think of.
To hear you and Adam discuss issues with juggling TH-cam with other life commitments makes me feel so much better. The last 12 months I’ve been struggling to find a “work-work” balance so to speak so it’s just nice to hear that I’m not alone with this! 🙂 Thanks!
Adam Neely is an artist with the mind of a scientist. When he talks about machine learning or topics that involve mathematics, I have the feeling that he understands what he's talking about and is not the slightest bit intimidated by it. Brilliant guy and a great interview!
Yes! His diction, his clear and smooth way of speaking, and his great voice along with the great knowledge he has makes him a great person to learn from.
Even Sir Paul McCartney forgets his lyrics sometimes or makes a error. These are songs that he has written and played for decades and have become iconic hits. He laughs it off and bounces back and recovers seamlessly. Roy Orbison was nervous and had stage fright being on stage his entire career every time he stepped on stage but has a way of not really showing it. Elvis Presley called Roy the King. Lionel Richie said on American Idol once that he and other performers are great magicians as he appears to have a flawless performance and yet he says every show is almost never perfect each night.
I love the intimate feel of this conversation. It's not Mary interviewing Adam, it's just two friends discussing their daily problems in their jobs, wich is really enjoyable to watch (my favourite part was, when Adam forgot, they were recording at 1:00:07). And with this ambience of just talking about their jobs as any other person would and often does, it sheds a very real light on doing music professionally. From this talk I don't get the drugs, sex and rock'n'roll vibe, with partying every night and not worrying about anything else then performing. It's a feeling of realness, wich makes it seem so achievable to become a professional musician. But it's just not as magic and sparkly as one might think.
Mary, you are a quality legit musician singer-songwriter. Always believe that regardless whatever anyone says. You have a pleasant soothing singing voice and a pleasant voice altogether.
Someone once told me, “God has given you certain Talents. If you don’t use them, it’s a sin.” That’s really a really heavy weight, but I enjoy you two Because you are using them and growing those Talents. That you are able to talk about it is a bonus. At more than twice your age, I have a little perspective. You are brilliant young people. (Oh, and I’m Subscribing Mary; been following Adam for @ a year.)
Watching this on the day it comes out is a bit surreal since this was obviously recorded weeks ago. Adams gig vlog is already out on his India trip... Plus SXSW is cancelled. Still, awesome interview! Thanks for amplifying great musicians on TH-cam!
he's right though. YOU MUST TURN OFF YOUR BRAIN WHEN DOING MUSIC. IT MUST BE FROM THE HEART. And I say that as a Logician who thinks our hearts are gonna lie to us most of the time!
Several comments really stood out. The first was around 34 minutes, when you were discussing playing live. There is no substitute for playing in front of people, who are paying to see you. You gain valuable experience, and wisdom from winning a crowd. The other was toward the end, when Adam said to be original. Too many people play/perform music that they think others enjoy, and it comes off as hollow. Play what you love, with passion, and an audience will find you.
At 33:53 - being comfortable in your own skin, on stage. This is helpful for me because I grew up in a very intensive performance environment as a young classical violinist before going off onto solo jazz guitar and original work - I have never had a problem being comfortable onstage, but could never feel anything for applause either, still can't. . It's just a traditional foley FX to let you know the song is over. So if you have trouble feeling at ease, I suggest that means you're still open enough to receive praise when it comes and thats a good thing, dont' lose that.
Around 34:05 mark a question arises (and not for the first time in my life): why would a person even take the bl**dy stage if he/she is not feeling comfortable with it?? I can remember my own experience as a vocalist for a death metal band (not a very musical occupation, I guess, but still...). I was literally CRAVING for each and every gig. This energy you get from the crowd is SO awesome! You fully dedicate yourself to the performance, and you get so much back from the people! And the best part of it was turning a less-than-enthusiastic audience into a chaotic headbanging moshing mess (in 20 minutes or so) - that happened from time to time. Those were the days... My point is this: if a musician is feeling really uncomfortable on stage but still wants to reach out with his/her music to whoever may find it good enough to listen to - the way out is to run a studio project. And I'm not talking about the usual anxiety caused by the very first gig (or a couple of those), that's a different story. But if it takes months or even years to get used to being on stage - something is wrong about it, IMHO. P.S.: Excuse me for being emotional, this thing I was ranting about just gets to me every time I stumble upon it... All in all - a great interview! I really enjoyed watching it. But that was highly expected since I've been a Neely fan for three years or so by now :-) P.P.S.: Also sorry for my clumsy English, I'm from Russia (if that matters).
The start of this is a bit sad to watch, just knowing that the events they're talking about with so much excitement are cancelled or will be cancelled soon bc of coronavirus. Awesome that you've interviewed him though and can't wait to watch the rest of it!
Very good video! The YT to mainstream transitions are still in the infancy stage. Yours and Adams approaches are both on the right tracks. At this point in time there are no rules to how it's done and you two are several of the artists paving the way for yourselves. Your "time and patience" and "10 years for 5 minutes" videos are very relevant Mary. Yes, the grind and frustration are real and overwhelming at times, but remember its not all about the destination, most of the memories are made in the journey!😋 thank you both for the music.
36.10. "I don't want to make you nervous by watching me perform". I've seen you perform live & I know exactly what you mean, it's something you do really well. You stamp your authority on the event at the start. I remember seeing the comedian Jimmy Carr getting up in front of an audience before he was very well known & his first words were "It's OK, I'm not crap". Everyone relaxed!
For rock bands there's a lot to be said for the tried-and-tested "HELLO, [place]! WE ARE [band]!", or even just kicking off with an energetic song. Anything that declares unequivocally that you're there and happy to take up the space and time because you're worthy of it.
Definitely agree with Adam that as an instrumentalist I can hide behind lots of things and still pull off a good performance. Much respect to singers - it is a completely different thing for you guys.
Being both an instrumentalist (although mediocre) and a singer (just a little less mediocre), I'd say that singing - at least in rock/pop music - is a less stressful task. Singing is something I do because it comes relatively easy to me; playing an instrument requires a lot of exercise, complex movements to remember, and yes, at one point it's just muscle memory at work but I'm always stressing about the what-ifs. And you'll have musicians in the audience scrutinizing every single note you play and your technique and your speed like it's some kind of sport. As a singer, if you're not trying to be Dimash you just have your unique voice and style; nobody's going to diss you for it. You can underplay if it's a bad day, or give 120% if you feel like it. You're basically soloing for a couple hours, and if you manage to keep the audience happy they won't care about your pitch or timbre (technique, yes, you'll need that). Basically, I "hide" behind my being the frontman and doing what the heck I want with "my" show. :D
Love this format! Thanks for the great interviews Mary :) your videos make confinement much more inspiring
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Regarding the “playing the show” vs “everything else” aspect on tours, I think legendary guitarist Steve Morse expressed it something like: “oh we could play the show for free, that’s the easy part, it’s the traveling and waiting part we get paid for...” (not saying that musicians shouldn’t be payed for the show, just that it’s all the admin, travelling, waiting and being away from home that’s the gruelling part of touring, if it would just be picking up your guitar and playing it would be easy, but like you say it’s so much more involved with a tour)
1:26:10 man that's something I really needed to hear. I feel like I do this way too often: to dismiss something as being trivial or obvious (and therefore not worth doing) just because it seems natural to me. As someone who struggles with self doubt, I'll try to keep that insight in mind.
It’s the comfort level between you and the audience, and it’s important for you to let yourself find your zone, of which is a comfort level of its own… It’s away of connecting with every person in the audience as well, some will connect much stronger than others and carry their emotions on their sleeves, so to speak… Years ago I was on the road, in that crappy van, crashing on the floor or the couch if lucky… they called it paying your dues… we played a Circuit through several states. Always ending up back where we started. Home for a couple weeks, then right back at it again. My point is, I don’t remember having any money to speak of. So what was I doing it for? I loved every moment of those days. That was the mid to late 70s, like 76 through to about 79 or 80… pay phones where the way we communicated and confirmed gigs. That seems impossible in this day and is impossible these days. When was the last time you saw a pay phone? You know what else is gas was .47 cents a gallon back then and even that was highway robbery… Ear training was the way I learned songs back when I started, I was taught how to do that along with a lot of what know now… I was a sponge back then, even today I learn something new but now it’s more than just the music or theory. Thank you guys… It’s so good to see these videos coming about now. Hope for more to come…
Loved this conversation! You guys always seem to get along and I hope to see more of your collabs in the future. There were lots of interesting stuff in there, but the one that really hit home for me was Adam's answer to your last question. Going for the things in music that seem the most obvious for me usually turns up really well, but for some reason to this day I am often reluctant to do that.
Watching this at the end of 2021 makes me morn the loss that 2020 was. The lost year. There were some fantastic Adam Neely vids that never got made. Here's to 2022. May normalcy break out world wide. The c-word is over for God's sake.
This is crazy watching little over a year later. I’ve recently discovered Adam Neely, and wonder if his TH-cam presence would be less, or similar to now, if the panademic had not hit. #crazy I’m glad reading through the comments that he managed to get to India 🥰
1:15:00 Adam, this content is what I sign up. It doesn't always have to be entertaining, but it should always be real, like this talk. Raw and real, and that's the best kind of videos in my opinion :)
If Mary ever needs extra cash, she was born voice-over work. What an incredible voice. She’s what UK Siri aspires to sound like. I would be ok with that voice delivering Orwellian public address messages.
Awesome video Mary. Adam is an amazing musician. I loved the video that you did with Adam busking in NY. Keep up the great work both of you and also injoy your down time when you need it...👍😎
I needed to take a break form practice, and this is the best break yet! Thanks for taking the time to have and post this conversation. I'm excited to see who else you get to interview.
!!!!HI BRITISH LADY!!!! I hope that you are having a wonderfully fantastic morning, please keep up the amazing work. I may not always agree with you on what you say but you are always professional and polite and it makes this country/Christian music drummer smile. Much love from this 27 year old from Cincinnati Ohio. 🤎
I guess I have to be politely incessant with my request. I would love for you and Adam to be virtual guests in my high school class on the intersections of language and music. Forget me, my students would love to hear from you both. We're still out of school due to COVID, but I want to get the kiddos excited to get back to school and excited to learn about language and music. Tried contacting both of you via your websites. Let me know what you need and we;ll try to make it happen. Thanks in advanced for whatever reply you give :)
I toured with a band almost 20 years ago. We were on the Jäegermeister Tour with Bobaflex and The Autumn’s Offering. The shows were amazing, the tour was arduous. No emails. All phone calls. Transportation! Gasoline! Food! Showers! Parking! GPS malfunction! Sleep! Drunk crew and some band members on the rig. Driving all night. Driving through snow. Sleeeeep.
At 40:05 you mentioned the best diet for the road. Check out the eating blander easily digestable diets for jet-lag. When you're travelling you're changing your circadian clock unnaturaly, so you're GI system becomes somewhat uncoordinated. Thus eating blander food that is easy to digest is advised anytime you're jet lagging yourself. As a circadian biologist I'm constantly surprised that more people haven't figured this out. But the research on the way the organs of their body have their own endogenous circiadina clocks is only 10-15yrs and not taken up yet. Every organ has it's own endogenous clock and when you travel across time-zones your body clocks and brain clock get out of sync - like a drummer and a bass player who aren't listening to each other. And it takes them time (roughly a 1hr shift per 24hrs hours post jet-lag) for them to re-entrain to each other.
The AI thing has always interested me (as it's kinda part of what I do), but for me its biggest drawback is how does it differentiate two different things. Take the game No Mans Sky, it promised millions of unique worlds, and they were unique. But the differences where so minuscule they all felt the same. That's the biggest hurdle AI music will have to get over
1:14:00 ish through whenever Yo, you don't have to be perfect (or arrogant) to like yourself, y'all. Do you only like things that are flawless? FOH, of course you don't! almost everybody loves junkfood even though they know it's junk. Learn to appreciate yourself if for no other reason than that's all you got. Plus enjoying yourself is fun to do and makes every aspect of life easier and better. It's easier said than done but you gotta start by knowing it's okay
Love both you guys. It's cool and surprising to me how many of the TH-cam channels I follow, all from people in different countries, are collaborating. Paul Davies too.
The music industry (which includes touring support services) is broad and it's very "squishy". In most cases it relies on personal contact, recommendation, and "interest" of folks who can be jaded by constant exposure. On the flip side are the "creatives" who often seem to have only one foot in reality and can be hard to deal with. Often they do not want to be shown "reality" as in what all the logistical gears look like when they are turning. You two are amazing and have been around in regular jobs and inside the industry long enough to have seen both sides, and you have built a "third way" (YT). Especially now with the situation we all find ourselves in, YT is one of the most valuable resources out there. It's time to shine that light even brighter. I hope you can find a way to collaborate at distance and show us how it's done :)
I think this video was amazing, great insight into what the life of a musician/youtuber is like. Great respect for the both of you, you guys inspire me so much :))
8:30-ish. "No one's wondering if Google is going to be around in 10 years' time." Perhaps not, but as a certified old guy, I'm inclined to argue that smart, inventive people like you and the people you're interviewing ought to keep that possibility in the back of your minds, individually and collectively, so that you're able to switch platforms / modes/ techniques / whatever means of delivering music is current as changing circumstances require you to do. Ten years ago, you were (I think) still in university, and I'm quite certain I wasn't watching you and other musicians like Larkin Poe on TH-cam. 12:10-ish. I'm inclined to agree with Futs101. I'm sure it's frustrating at times, but (again as an old guy who's watched several transitions in music) this is all still in its infancy, and I'm a little suspicious of those who speak with apparent certainty about where music and the music industry are going to be in a decade. Technological change seems a certainty, but we don't know where that might lead, whether good or bad for individual artists, or even for the industry as a whole.
~44:30 Re: touring. I think it might be partly related to the audience living vicariously through the performer[s] and their romantic notions of what they would do for their art.
Maybe at some point in your Tuesday Talks journey you could interview Steve Tilston, the singer/song-writer/acoustic folk artist. You could get his perspective on his many years of performing and doing solo albums. Great interview with Adam!
I’m late to this party and also quite old. The way that I consume music has changed 4 times in my lifetime. The way I create & produce music has changed 3 times
Regarding negativity in the comments, it may help to look at examples where it could be a lot worse (TH-cam or elsewhere) to put in perspective having a few hate comments from individuals who are in a bad head space just looking to vent on a random someone who seems to have it together in life. If you had a random drunk at a performance would you bring them up on stage and let them dictate the energy of the room or would you ignore them to entertain the people who want to be there because they love what you do? Any public figure would tell you it comes with the territory. I watched a documentary recently about Miles Davis were at the height of his popularity he was beaten up and arrested for not being compliant in an accusation of 'loitering' in front of the theater he was performing at. It's not fair, its no less personal, but some perspective in times of doubt may help. I don't envy anyone this aspect of being a public figure, it is why it is the default comfortable state for everyone not to be. But some find themselves having to be one and with that comes the opportunity to share a gift with others and that's what really matters.
This was a great interview with a lot of food for thought for the aspiring musician. +1 for mentioning Pomplamoose. I love their song "Be Better At Listening".
Everyone freaks out about AI in music but the first time its really been used in anger was in the software that split the John Lennon audio from piano so that they could finally release Now and Then so its off to a good start. as for performing on stage I can play something fine on my own it is another level with a camera even though you can edit but to play live is another level. Huge respect to those who feel that comfortable. Or just join a punk band and make no excuses that you cant play haha
I like your channel and I really enjoy adam, he is really genuine guy and a conversation with him can 't be nothing less than interesting. I didn 't knew that he is a chess player, i will challenge him if i got the chance. Aw, i love you too.
It totally shocked me, that there is so much hate in the comments-section on TH-cam and it leaves me with the question: „What‘s wrong with people?!?“ I am an Artist but have „only“ a humble following of a couple thousand nice people on Twitter (yes, the domain right besides hell), but am still unimportant and unknown enough, that there isn‘t much trolling and hate yet. And I am totally thankful for that, because my psyche wouldn‘t be so strong to handle that and being severely disabled because of my MS and being in the autism spectrum, I am an easy target - I guess. I am so sorry, that you guys have to go through that. :(
I’ve been homeless twice in my life. My own space is wherever I’m sitting/standing/sleeping. I’ll never be homeless again and I can visualize my huge, warm, comfortable bed anywhere. That said, I’ll always take a loss to stay at a 5 start hotel.
I think the answer to AI music staying static is like saying that Windows XP was the end-all of tech. Algorithms and core processing will continue to evolve becoming ever more sophisticated. We are still very embryonic on the development curve thus far. (Showing me age) What did Bachman Turner Overdrive sing/say? You Ain't Seen Nuthin' Yet... :-D Ummm... but Adam... yes, you can stream TH-cam video live. Your peer Rick Beato does it all the time. I just saw bloody Jimmy Bruno (
I have a tiny TH-cam channel with only about 5000 subscribers and I still fixate on the negative comments. It's a tough thing to deal with. I can't imagine how somebody of your popularity deals with it. BTW, I discovered you in the "How to sing harmony" video from That Pedal Show. Wonderful singing and playing. It's still one of my favorite episodes from TPS.
Live playing feeds the soul of an artist like no other medium can. TH-cam is great but an artist must be wholistic in their practice and life. Taking time to go live can only enhance TH-cam content.
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I would disagree with you and Adam, re Hate Comments.
My nature is to FIRST find out.......IS THE PERSON SINCERE OR NOT SINCERE.
(Many critics are sincere and mean well or are just expressing their 2 cents, while others are just phony haters who are trying to be mean to feel power or whatever.)
ONCE I DISCOVER IF MY CRITIC IS SINCERE, I examine if the Criticism is ACCURATE or NOT accurate.
ex:
imagine someone saying "I HATE METALLICA....CUZ THEIR GUITARS ARE DISTORTED"!
That would not be great criticism, cuz, that's uh....kinda their thing!
I LOVE CRITICISM....as long as it's SINCERE.
Sometimes you learn things you didn't think of.
1:16:23 she laughed the lick almost
Damn, good catch :D
Oh wow. Alert Adam immediately.
Wow
holy shit
Ha ha ha ha haa ha haaaaaa
To hear you and Adam discuss issues with juggling TH-cam with other life commitments makes me feel so much better. The last 12 months I’ve been struggling to find a “work-work” balance so to speak so it’s just nice to hear that I’m not alone with this! 🙂 Thanks!
You've been killing it David, love your content and your music. Keep it up! :)
"Is this how 2020 is going to look ? Just litterally touring the world ? -- Yeah, right now it is ! " -- aaaand right NOW it isn't...
=(
Oof
Ouch, watching this now feels weird. When everybody had plans and hopes for the year...
Adam Neely is an artist with the mind of a scientist. When he talks about machine learning or topics that involve mathematics, I have the feeling that he understands what he's talking about and is not the slightest bit intimidated by it. Brilliant guy and a great interview!
Martin Lotz, that is a great description of Adam, holy shit!
Replace artist with gamer and you’ve described MatPat! 😂
Naj Renchelf loooool imagine thinking matpat seems scientific
Yes! His diction, his clear and smooth way of speaking, and his great voice along with the great knowledge he has makes him a great person to learn from.
Axs how does he not ?
@ConManliness who invited uncle uh-oh
Even Sir Paul McCartney forgets his lyrics sometimes or makes a error. These are songs that he has written and played for decades and have become iconic hits. He laughs it off and bounces back and recovers seamlessly. Roy Orbison was nervous and had stage fright being on stage his entire career every time he stepped on stage but has a way of not really showing it. Elvis Presley called Roy the King. Lionel Richie said on American Idol once that he and other performers are great magicians as he appears to have a flawless performance and yet he says every show is almost never perfect each night.
I love the intimate feel of this conversation. It's not Mary interviewing Adam, it's just two friends discussing their daily problems in their jobs, wich is really enjoyable to watch (my favourite part was, when Adam forgot, they were recording at 1:00:07). And with this ambience of just talking about their jobs as any other person would and often does, it sheds a very real light on doing music professionally. From this talk I don't get the drugs, sex and rock'n'roll vibe, with partying every night and not worrying about anything else then performing. It's a feeling of realness, wich makes it seem so achievable to become a professional musician. But it's just not as magic and sparkly as one might think.
Both Mary and Adam are amazing people. I can't imagine how anyone could think otherwise. You two are an inspiration to me endlessly.
Mary, you are a quality legit musician singer-songwriter. Always believe that regardless whatever anyone says. You have a pleasant soothing singing voice and a pleasant voice altogether.
Someone once told me, “God has given you certain Talents. If you don’t use them, it’s a sin.” That’s really a really heavy weight, but I enjoy you two Because you are using them and growing those Talents. That you are able to talk about it is a bonus. At more than twice your age, I have a little perspective. You are brilliant young people. (Oh, and I’m Subscribing Mary; been following Adam for @ a year.)
Interesting to watchi this in the context of post-2020!
Watching this on the day it comes out is a bit surreal since this was obviously recorded weeks ago. Adams gig vlog is already out on his India trip... Plus SXSW is cancelled. Still, awesome interview! Thanks for amplifying great musicians on TH-cam!
Adam is right, you're crushing it Mary. Also, Adam is crushing it, too. You two are THE best.
he's right though. YOU MUST TURN OFF YOUR BRAIN WHEN DOING MUSIC.
IT MUST BE FROM THE HEART.
And I say that as a Logician who thinks our hearts are gonna lie to us most of the time!
Several comments really stood out. The first was around 34 minutes, when you were discussing playing live. There is no substitute for playing in front of people, who are paying to see you. You gain valuable experience, and wisdom from winning a crowd. The other was toward the end, when Adam said to be original. Too many people play/perform music that they think others enjoy, and it comes off as hollow. Play what you love, with passion, and an audience will find you.
Hope live shows come back
A great talk. Even outside of music. Absolutely amazing! Thank you both. Everyone should listen to this talk.
Live performances as "ritualized empathy" is exactly the kind of observation that make Neely's channel so amazing.
At 33:53 - being comfortable in your own skin, on stage.
This is helpful for me because I grew up in a very intensive performance environment as a young classical violinist before going off onto solo jazz guitar and original work - I have never had a problem being comfortable onstage, but could never feel anything for applause either, still can't. . It's just a traditional foley FX to let you know the song is over. So if you have trouble feeling at ease, I suggest that means you're still open enough to receive praise when it comes and thats a good thing, dont' lose that.
1:21:26 Adam’s and Mary’s answers to this question are pure gold for a 21 year old unsure where he’s going in life. Thank you 🙏
17:00 Hey Adam, please come to Brazil
Acknowledge your flaws, improve on them, like yourself for the effort made. THANK YOU ADAM! This self-acceptance thing makes sense now!
Around 34:05 mark a question arises (and not for the first time in my life): why would a person even take the bl**dy stage if he/she is not feeling comfortable with it??
I can remember my own experience as a vocalist for a death metal band (not a very musical occupation, I guess, but still...). I was literally CRAVING for each and every gig. This energy you get from the crowd is SO awesome! You fully dedicate yourself to the performance, and you get so much back from the people! And the best part of it was turning a less-than-enthusiastic audience into a chaotic headbanging moshing mess (in 20 minutes or so) - that happened from time to time. Those were the days...
My point is this: if a musician is feeling really uncomfortable on stage but still wants to reach out with his/her music to whoever may find it good enough to listen to - the way out is to run a studio project. And I'm not talking about the usual anxiety caused by the very first gig (or a couple of those), that's a different story. But if it takes months or even years to get used to being on stage - something is wrong about it, IMHO.
P.S.: Excuse me for being emotional, this thing I was ranting about just gets to me every time I stumble upon it... All in all - a great interview! I really enjoyed watching it. But that was highly expected since I've been a Neely fan for three years or so by now :-)
P.P.S.: Also sorry for my clumsy English, I'm from Russia (if that matters).
The start of this is a bit sad to watch, just knowing that the events they're talking about with so much excitement are cancelled or will be cancelled soon bc of coronavirus. Awesome that you've interviewed him though and can't wait to watch the rest of it!
Their India tour completed a couple of weeks ago. Though SXSW has sadly been cancelled.
There are some gems in here for performers and producers. Thank you Mary!!!
Watching Mary Spender videos is well spent time.
1:18:40 Adam talking about his bond with his bass literally made me look at my guitar and cry.
@43:00 Some of my most favorite memories of gigging was in Los Alamos, Ca. Every time we had a place too stay by the time our show was over.
Very good video!
The YT to mainstream transitions are still in the infancy stage. Yours and Adams approaches are both on the right tracks. At this point in time there are no rules to how it's done and you two are several of the artists paving the way for yourselves. Your "time and patience" and "10 years for 5 minutes" videos are very relevant Mary. Yes, the grind and frustration are real and overwhelming at times, but remember its not all about the destination, most of the memories are made in the journey!😋 thank you both for the music.
how come this video is uploaded today, and the blue writing next to your name says 2 days ago?
@@rollacoastaride1937 Probably a patreon early access thing or something.
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Thanks Mary. Thanks Adam. We are the lucky ones......
3:18 "I'm talking at SXSW..." ah, dang. Sorry.
oof
A lot of things he mentioned are going to be canceled.
. . .are cancelled.
Oopsie
I hope he turns it into a video instead!
36.10. "I don't want to make you nervous by watching me perform". I've seen you perform live & I know exactly what you mean, it's something you do really well. You stamp your authority on the event at the start. I remember seeing the comedian Jimmy Carr getting up in front of an audience before he was very well known & his first words were "It's OK, I'm not crap". Everyone relaxed!
For rock bands there's a lot to be said for the tried-and-tested "HELLO, [place]! WE ARE [band]!", or even just kicking off with an energetic song. Anything that declares unequivocally that you're there and happy to take up the space and time because you're worthy of it.
Definitely agree with Adam that as an instrumentalist I can hide behind lots of things and still pull off a good performance. Much respect to singers - it is a completely different thing for you guys.
Being both an instrumentalist (although mediocre) and a singer (just a little less mediocre), I'd say that singing - at least in rock/pop music - is a less stressful task.
Singing is something I do because it comes relatively easy to me; playing an instrument requires a lot of exercise, complex movements to remember, and yes, at one point it's just muscle memory at work but I'm always stressing about the what-ifs. And you'll have musicians in the audience scrutinizing every single note you play and your technique and your speed like it's some kind of sport. As a singer, if you're not trying to be Dimash you just have your unique voice and style; nobody's going to diss you for it. You can underplay if it's a bad day, or give 120% if you feel like it. You're basically soloing for a couple hours, and if you manage to keep the audience happy they won't care about your pitch or timbre (technique, yes, you'll need that). Basically, I "hide" behind my being the frontman and doing what the heck I want with "my" show. :D
Time capsule. Lockdown happened right after this.
Great insights. I'm a fan of these two.
Love this format! Thanks for the great interviews Mary :) your videos make confinement much more inspiring
Regarding the “playing the show” vs “everything else” aspect on tours, I think legendary guitarist Steve Morse expressed it something like: “oh we could play the show for free, that’s the easy part, it’s the traveling and waiting part we get paid for...” (not saying that musicians shouldn’t be payed for the show, just that it’s all the admin, travelling, waiting and being away from home that’s the gruelling part of touring, if it would just be picking up your guitar and playing it would be easy, but like you say it’s so much more involved with a tour)
1:26:10 man that's something I really needed to hear. I feel like I do this way too often: to dismiss something as being trivial or obvious (and therefore not worth doing) just because it seems natural to me. As someone who struggles with self doubt, I'll try to keep that insight in mind.
I have to concur with Adam about the hiding part behind the instrument vs. singing and playing. So much great info shared, thanks a ton!
It’s the comfort level between you and the audience, and it’s important for you to let yourself find your zone, of which is a comfort level of its own…
It’s away of connecting with every person in the audience as well, some will connect much stronger than others and carry their emotions on their sleeves, so to speak…
Years ago I was on the road, in that crappy van, crashing on the floor or the couch if lucky… they called it paying your dues… we played a Circuit through several states. Always ending up back where we started. Home for a couple weeks, then right back at it again. My point is, I don’t remember having any money to speak of. So what was I doing it for? I loved every moment of those days. That was the mid to late 70s, like 76 through to about 79 or 80… pay phones where the way we communicated and confirmed gigs. That seems impossible in this day and is impossible these days. When was the last time you saw a pay phone? You know what else is gas was .47 cents a gallon back then and even that was highway robbery…
Ear training was the way I learned songs back when I started, I was taught how to do that along with a lot of what know now… I was a sponge back then, even today I learn something new but now it’s more than just the music or theory.
Thank you guys…
It’s so good to see these videos coming about now. Hope for more to come…
Loved this conversation! You guys always seem to get along and I hope to see more of your collabs in the future. There were lots of interesting stuff in there, but the one that really hit home for me was Adam's answer to your last question. Going for the things in music that seem the most obvious for me usually turns up really well, but for some reason to this day I am often reluctant to do that.
So much helpful information for new musicians (myself included)! Awesome interview. And I loved the Contrapoints shoutout.
There's really nothing arrogant about liking or even loving yourself. It's basic in order to truly empathize and love other people.
This young lady is doing a great job and I like her!!! she is humble and very concise!! I am a subscriber and I applaud her!! THUMBS UP!!!
Watching this at the end of 2021 makes me morn the loss that 2020 was. The lost year. There were some fantastic Adam Neely vids that never got made. Here's to 2022. May normalcy break out world wide. The c-word is over for God's sake.
This is crazy watching little over a year later. I’ve recently discovered Adam Neely, and wonder if his TH-cam presence would be less, or similar to now, if the panademic had not hit. #crazy
I’m glad reading through the comments that he managed to get to India 🥰
1:15:00 Adam, this content is what I sign up. It doesn't always have to be entertaining, but it should always be real, like this talk. Raw and real, and that's the best kind of videos in my opinion :)
Two of my favorite creators in a fantastic and enlightening tawk!
I'm glad Adam brought up freddiew and Corridor Digital. Those were my two favorite youtube channels in the 2010-2013 era of youtube.
If Mary ever needs extra cash, she was born voice-over work. What an incredible voice. She’s what UK Siri aspires to sound like. I would be ok with that voice delivering Orwellian public address messages.
Absolutely fascinating discussion. Thank you both for the time put into this.
Awesome video Mary. Adam is an amazing musician. I loved the video that you did with Adam busking in NY. Keep up the great work both of you and also injoy your down time when you need it...👍😎
I needed to take a break form practice, and this is the best break yet! Thanks for taking the time to have and post this conversation. I'm excited to see who else you get to interview.
Hi Mary, enjoyed the first part (of three) of your (alter egos or future self’s) history of Queen Jane (Lady Jane Grey) on tv yesterday.
!!!!HI BRITISH LADY!!!!
I hope that you are having a wonderfully fantastic morning, please keep up the amazing work. I may not always agree with you on what you say but you are always professional and polite and it makes this country/Christian music drummer smile.
Much love from this 27 year old from Cincinnati Ohio. 🤎
I guess I have to be politely incessant with my request. I would love for you and Adam to be virtual guests in my high school class on the intersections of language and music. Forget me, my students would love to hear from you both. We're still out of school due to COVID, but I want to get the kiddos excited to get back to school and excited to learn about language and music. Tried contacting both of you via your websites. Let me know what you need and we;ll try to make it happen. Thanks in advanced for whatever reply you give :)
2nd watch of this ,a year later . Good stuff . Thank you Mary ,Thank you Adam .
I was there for the mumbai gig of shubhgazer at g5a!!it was surreal!!
I toured with a band almost 20 years ago. We were on the Jäegermeister Tour with Bobaflex and The Autumn’s Offering. The shows were amazing, the tour was arduous. No emails. All phone calls. Transportation! Gasoline! Food! Showers! Parking! GPS malfunction! Sleep! Drunk crew and some band members on the rig. Driving all night. Driving through snow. Sleeeeep.
At 40:05 you mentioned the best diet for the road. Check out the eating blander easily digestable diets for jet-lag. When you're travelling you're changing your circadian clock unnaturaly, so you're GI system becomes somewhat uncoordinated. Thus eating blander food that is easy to digest is advised anytime you're jet lagging yourself. As a circadian biologist I'm constantly surprised that more people haven't figured this out. But the research on the way the organs of their body have their own endogenous circiadina clocks is only 10-15yrs and not taken up yet. Every organ has it's own endogenous clock and when you travel across time-zones your body clocks and brain clock get out of sync - like a drummer and a bass player who aren't listening to each other. And it takes them time (roughly a 1hr shift per 24hrs hours post jet-lag) for them to re-entrain to each other.
The Art of Asking ♥
So much fascinating information here. Terrific!
Finally someone records a remote interview on both ends. Thanks!
This longer content is great!
Please do that video of teaching Mary jazz. I haven't been able to find it if it does exist already. I would love to see the process! 🙃
The AI thing has always interested me (as it's kinda part of what I do), but for me its biggest drawback is how does it differentiate two different things. Take the game No Mans Sky, it promised millions of unique worlds, and they were unique. But the differences where so minuscule they all felt the same. That's the biggest hurdle AI music will have to get over
1:14:00 ish through whenever Yo, you don't have to be perfect (or arrogant) to like yourself, y'all. Do you only like things that are flawless? FOH, of course you don't! almost everybody loves junkfood even though they know it's junk. Learn to appreciate yourself if for no other reason than that's all you got. Plus enjoying yourself is fun to do and makes every aspect of life easier and better.
It's easier said than done but you gotta start by knowing it's okay
I loved listening to this and a jazz lesson by Adam neely with mayr spender would be an amazing video!!
Love both you guys. It's cool and surprising to me how many of the TH-cam channels I follow, all from people in different countries, are collaborating. Paul Davies too.
The music industry (which includes touring support services) is broad and it's very "squishy". In most cases it relies on personal contact, recommendation, and "interest" of folks who can be jaded by constant exposure. On the flip side are the "creatives" who often seem to have only one foot in reality and can be hard to deal with. Often they do not want to be shown "reality" as in what all the logistical gears look like when they are turning.
You two are amazing and have been around in regular jobs and inside the industry long enough to have seen both sides, and you have built a "third way" (YT). Especially now with the situation we all find ourselves in, YT is one of the most valuable resources out there. It's time to shine that light even brighter. I hope you can find a way to collaborate at distance and show us how it's done :)
I think this video was amazing, great insight into what the life of a musician/youtuber is like. Great respect for the both of you, you guys inspire me so much :))
8:30-ish. "No one's wondering if Google is going to be around in 10 years' time." Perhaps not, but as a certified old guy, I'm inclined to argue that smart, inventive people like you and the people you're interviewing ought to keep that possibility in the back of your minds, individually and collectively, so that you're able to switch platforms / modes/ techniques / whatever means of delivering music is current as changing circumstances require you to do. Ten years ago, you were (I think) still in university, and I'm quite certain I wasn't watching you and other musicians like Larkin Poe on TH-cam. 12:10-ish. I'm inclined to agree with Futs101. I'm sure it's frustrating at times, but (again as an old guy who's watched several transitions in music) this is all still in its infancy, and I'm a little suspicious of those who speak with apparent certainty about where music and the music industry are going to be in a decade. Technological change seems a certainty, but we don't know where that might lead, whether good or bad for individual artists, or even for the industry as a whole.
~44:30 Re: touring. I think it might be partly related to the audience living vicariously through the performer[s] and their romantic notions of what they would do for their art.
My two favorite TH-camrs.❤️
Thank you so much for doing these, really outstanding
@7:25 lol What a true burn. Never change though, we need people who take music intellectually seriously.
Maybe at some point in your Tuesday Talks journey you could interview Steve Tilston, the singer/song-writer/acoustic folk artist. You could get his perspective on his many years of performing and doing solo albums. Great interview with Adam!
"Live performances and touring, that's on shaky ground, right now."
It really was. Thankfully it's all coming back slowly.
This was great. I would really like to see the two of you collaborate on some music. It could be an interesting outcome.
I’m late to this party and also quite old. The way that I consume music has changed 4 times in my lifetime. The way I create & produce music has changed 3 times
This was very insightful. Your advice is really inspiring and is stuff I definitely needed to hear. Thanks
Regarding negativity in the comments, it may help to look at examples where it could be a lot worse (TH-cam or elsewhere) to put in perspective having a few hate comments from individuals who are in a bad head space just looking to vent on a random someone who seems to have it together in life.
If you had a random drunk at a performance would you bring them up on stage and let them dictate the energy of the room or would you ignore them to entertain the people who want to be there because they love what you do?
Any public figure would tell you it comes with the territory.
I watched a documentary recently about Miles Davis were at the height of his popularity he was beaten up and arrested for not being compliant in an accusation of 'loitering' in front of the theater he was performing at.
It's not fair, its no less personal, but some perspective in times of doubt may help.
I don't envy anyone this aspect of being a public figure, it is why it is the default comfortable state for everyone not to be. But some find themselves having to be one and with that comes the opportunity to share a gift with others and that's what really matters.
This was a great interview with a lot of food for thought for the aspiring musician. +1 for mentioning Pomplamoose. I love their song "Be Better At Listening".
Everyone freaks out about AI in music but the first time its really been used in anger was in the software that split the John Lennon audio from piano so that they could finally release Now and Then so its off to a good start. as for performing on stage I can play something fine on my own it is another level with a camera even though you can edit but to play live is another level. Huge respect to those who feel that comfortable. Or just join a punk band and make no excuses that you cant play haha
I like your channel and I really enjoy adam, he is really genuine guy and a conversation with him can 't be nothing less than interesting.
I didn 't knew that he is a chess player, i will challenge him if i got the chance.
Aw, i love you too.
Loved this! Thanks!
It totally shocked me, that there is so much hate in the comments-section on TH-cam and it leaves me with the question: „What‘s wrong with people?!?“
I am an Artist but have „only“ a humble following of a couple thousand nice people on Twitter (yes, the domain right besides hell), but am still unimportant and unknown enough, that there isn‘t much trolling and hate yet. And I am totally thankful for that, because my psyche wouldn‘t be so strong to handle that and being severely disabled because of my MS and being in the autism spectrum, I am an easy target - I guess.
I am so sorry, that you guys have to go through that. :(
That was enlightening, thanks!
I’ve been homeless twice in my life. My own space is wherever I’m sitting/standing/sleeping. I’ll never be homeless again and I can visualize my huge, warm, comfortable bed anywhere. That said, I’ll always take a loss to stay at a 5 start hotel.
41:30 good advice particularly for young artists, musicians or otherwise
Joseph Saudi respect your hearing
Sounds like Adam needs a Joe Nation who’s in charge of the Vlog Camera!
Also, aspiring musician here... this is a fascinating conversation!
1:00:07 - hi Adam! 😂
You wanted time stamps Mary? 😉
1:13:48 😂
I’m sorry to discover that both Adam and I had our SXSW 2020 experiences taken away from us with a week to spare.
I think the answer to AI music staying static is like saying that Windows XP was the end-all of tech. Algorithms and core processing will continue to evolve becoming ever more sophisticated. We are still very embryonic on the development curve thus far. (Showing me age) What did Bachman Turner Overdrive sing/say? You Ain't Seen Nuthin' Yet... :-D
Ummm... but Adam... yes, you can stream TH-cam video live. Your peer Rick Beato does it all the time. I just saw bloody Jimmy Bruno (
IE is wonderful.... but the old feeling ...dont forget to learn your body.... and the feeling i think is what ist the different....both is awesome :)
Oh no, He had so much going on before Covid. Darn. I hope he got realize some of these goals.
I have a tiny TH-cam channel with only about 5000 subscribers and I still fixate on the negative comments. It's a tough thing to deal with. I can't imagine how somebody of your popularity deals with it. BTW, I discovered you in the "How to sing harmony" video from That Pedal Show. Wonderful singing and playing. It's still one of my favorite episodes from TPS.
Live playing feeds the soul of an artist like no other medium can. TH-cam is great but an artist must be wholistic in their practice and life. Taking time to go live can only enhance TH-cam content.
OMG!! This is great
Amazing and superinteresting talk, guys. Thank you ^^
Interesting listen to you guys, thank you.
Mary: "2020 is just you touring all over the world!"
Narrator: Not so much.
exactly, you don't need to know allot. it's helpfull but sometimes also stressfull, it's a rabbit hole.